ramble hey before we get into today’s episode we want to tell you about good mythical evening for one night only we are bringing you good mythical evening streaming exclusively on moment house get your ticket for a most indecent sloshy and random show that takes our classic good mythical morning favorites and torches the rule book the show is live september 1st to jump start the labor day weekend tickets are on sale right now at goodmythicalevening.com as the wyan rich kids famously wrapped hot cheetos and takis hot cheetos and takis i can’t get enough of them hot cheetos and takis but which spicy snack is superior this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh air and i’m your host nicole handy zade and today nicole we are taking on two spicy snack titans yeah yeah yeah this is the they’re they’re one a one b this is awesome there’s there’s no one else i’m hype in the race i am hype right now great podcast i can feel the citric acid and all that cayenne pepper in the red dye form coursing through my veins also i blame my adhd on the red dye 40. do you remember i don’t know if you follow the scientific world like i do but there was a study that came out that was like red dye 40 uh increases aggression in schools of fish 2020 special about it it’s very interesting because it does right it’s like it’s like documented it was yeah like a real peer-reviewed study that was like this food dye anyways uh probably maybe a good thing that snack foods are taking a lot of it out yeah like trix cereal uh-huh you seem like modern tricks cereal it’s been a while i’m sorry i did love trixo trixx was one of my favorite cereals i loved it too one they took out the actual fruit shapes and they’re just there’s little balls now like kicks tricks look like tricks looks like cakes i hate this time the tricks kicks dichotomy but not only that the colors are now like muted because they took out all the artificial food dyes now it’s like beet juice and butterfly pee or whatever i know our whole childhood is going down however america is losing the battle we’re losing touch however that bright red food dye still exists in both takis and flamin hot cheetos in spades my mouth is like literally the salivary glands have activated thinking about the tip oh i’m just drooling over the mic problem is you know the problem is i love hot cheetos but the salivary gland is from the taki you know what i mean like right now the thought about eating ataki is making me salivate more than the thought of eating a hot cheeto which is whack because i love hot cheetos so are you saying the hot cheetos are your preferred snack food they are interesting but for some reason takis make me salivate more well it’s not just for some reason it’s because takis took everything that people love about flamin hot cheetos and they just just cranked the dial up to like high voltage they’re they like uh there’s alex french guy cooking yes right he figured out a way to rig his oven to cook at 900 degrees even though it only went up to 500 by using the self-cleaning feature and then breaking a safety latch so anyways to do with this that’s what that’s what takis did they broke they broke the latch and they cranked the oven up to 900 degrees and they were like you thought you loved spice and acid from flamin hot cheetos america i mean initially this went to the mexican market right this is from the the bimbo brand yes yes it is very famous love love all the bimbo snack cakes are they also the ones that do the the penguin ones uh no that’s uh i believe gun situation i don’t know if it’s owned by the same right um but that means a massive mexican uh baked good snack food conglomerate um but anyways they you know just cranked every single flavor up to 11. so there is so much more spice there’s so much more acid but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better or worse but i agree with you that there’s literally saliva pooling in my mouth yeah thinking about the takis fuego going inside me yeah i know but i i think you can eat more hot cheetos and also i have a close relationship with hot cheetos you know everybody that listens to this podcast knows my affinity for the hot cheeto cream cheese bagel yes girl preach if you don’t know about my affinity for it i’ll explain it right now so when we used to have nutrition in uh yeah that was cool that was a weird millennial rebrand of recess yeah it was like 15 minutes when you were like you could like socialize and have a snack i guess was the point of it and uh the beverly hills school district decided titling it nutrition meant putting the worst possible foods out there for kids to eat so we would take a buttered bagel because they had buttered bagels it was basically a bagel with salted butter on it nice toasted very lightly and then a little philadelphia cream cheese a vessel i guess and a bag of hot cheetos now they also give you the option for baked hot cheetos i believe unless i’m i’m not thinking correctly we switched it was somewhere so the god what was the act called it was passed while we were in high school uh-huh and so at my high school they switched every single fried chip for baked chip yeah and they took out all mainstream sodas for izzy sparkling ciders do you remember that oh my god one those are fire those are so good they got natural fruit juice in it i mean it’s the same calories and same nutrition specs whatever you’re taking me way back i remember the cans like like right now i’m just racing my brain and i’m thinking about the there was a green one that i really really liked yeah that was the green apple one maybe or kiwi i don’t know well nutrition and then we would make the sandwich and then just go about our merry days but we couldn’t eat them in class because the teachers would be disgusted by us and be like these are monsters well flamin hot cheetos and takis are both being banned at some schools because too many kids ended up in the hospital but tummy tummy issues with dummy issues yeah these kids are eating so much that they would get ulcers well uh i mean little xan patient zero well xanad so many flaming hot cheetos i mean i feel like he was doing maybe some other stuff that wasn’t a healthy maybe maybe you know what i’m not here to judge little zlatan i was actually listening to a little samsung this morning on the way here he did a collaboration with one of my favorite djs named whipped cream whipped cream on the podcast love whipped cream um and it was a it’s a it’s called told you so and it’s really great um however yeah we didn’t have talkies at my high school i feel like they came out a little bit after we never had talkies at our school unfortunately but i wish we did we had another snack that i think has potential although one fatal flaw in this same category and that was flamin hot munchies oh man yeah oh man why’d you have to throw that one into the race okay so i what to give my official answer here i love flamin hot cheetos for the nostalgia and i think it’s really interesting because if you actually look at the flavor difference between takis and flamin hot cheetos it’s pretty much takis have more citric acid flamin hot cheetos have cheddar powder correct those are the two things there’s still a ton of citric acid because i mean it’s so sour if you suck on a flamin hot cheeto which we have done an inordinate amount in the most maybe the first thing you made me do like first week they’re like hey can you suck at the thought you don’t try to recreate nicole here’s your here your choose your training manual now suck on these flaming hot cheetos and try to recreate the powder which we’ve recreated the powder of both of them no like literally the second day you were here we we made you turn a vending machine into a barbecue pit and then caused a fire i caused a fire no it was a confluence of issues i helped cause a fire a lot of black smoke pouring into the the parking lot next door they were not happy but anyways so that’s the flavor difference right cheddar versus citric acid uh however takis most people think of uh fuego purple yeah right now i think our conversation is flaming hot cheetos versus taco suede am i correct well okay yeah but i think we can talk about the other flavors of flamin hot cheeto because there’s flamin hot lemon there’s flaming there’s flaming hot extra hot they they’ve done a couple of fries oh flamin hot fries lemon hot fries are my favorite i hate flavin hot fries the texture of the puff is the no the texture of the puff goes into my gums and lives in my teeth for like hours that’s what i love also the cheddar jalapeno i don’t enjoy those so here’s the weird thing is i love flaming hot cheetos i do not enjoy cheetos themselves and i do not enjoy cheddar flavored snacks oh my gosh to me they’re just kind of bait i like i ruffles sour cream and cheddar i think are really delicious doritos nacho cheese i’ll gladly eat but i’d rather have any other flavor of doritos you know what i mean and so i i want that spice and i think the cheeto the actual texture of it is not something that interests me i prefer a corn chip which is why i enjoy takis makes sense however i do think takis are incredibly dense i’m still waiting for my messiah chip i am like uh you know how uh you know our people are are still waiting for the messiah to come i am waiting for my spicy side chip i don’t think the perfect spicy chip has been invented yet interesting because i think i love the flavor i love the aggression of takis so aggressive the most aggressive and they’re so crunchy and all of them and they’re so crunchy it’s so aggressive but i don’t love the fact that they’re rolled so they’re not quite dippable they’re almost too dense there are flamin hot fritos frito scoops there aren’t in our kitchen wait we other do you want them like loki yeah yeah okay i’ll give them but i mean no i mean they’ve made flamin hot doritos in the past you know but i think they they need to just like tweak that if they took the talky seasoning okay and put that on doritos something a little bit lighter of a crisp because once takis came out right takis are the difference between doritos and um a fried real tortilla chip right is like a density issue fritos are like frying very thin raw masa so you’re getting more air flow in there sure whereas you go to like a restaurant right mexican restaurant that’s frying actual tortillas i mean they are dense and they are crunchy and i like want that lightness from a snacking chip that’s something takis doesn’t give me which i get that that density is something that people love and it it like works that heavy corn flavor in the crunch works with all that spice on there got it but so i think taki’s have the potential and they’re coming out with a new line of like a bunch of different taki they already have so many takis well not i mean they have a bunch of different flavors which are all really great like their guacamole is the first guacamole flavored thing that i’ve actually liked i really like their guacamole one their fajita’s great yeah we’re getting the the blue takis sent literally instacart instacart like i’m not kidding they’re coming in an hour and i’m so excited to see what they taste like we haven’t even talked about the takis blue heat i’m so excited because i’ve never had them you’ve never had them no i’ve never had them but every time i go to like uh or like another supermarket like that i’m just like i want you but i can’t have you because i know you’re toxic so it’s like a boyfriend you know it’s like a bad boy he’s like i want you but i can’t have you sister i know that one it’s like he makes you feel good right now he makes you feel special but you know like where is this actually going i just want to say like i’ve eaten it you know what i mean like it’s like one of those things like yeah i’ve had blue tacos you don’t like look back on it and yeah like smile for what it was um [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home there’s free shipping for the continental u.s and there’s no antibiotics or added hormones plus it’s packed fresh 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unnatural than red i remember reading something from i don’t want to say it was in cosmo why would i have been reading cosmo when i was a child but i remember reading an article that was like cosmo as a kid i like it because there was one thing that was like do you want to get skinny for beach season which again is problematic but i was 11 reading a cosmo at the public library deal with it it’s like put all your food on a blue plate because there are no naturally blue foods so this will trick your body into eating less hmm yeah and i was like i don’t know that this is the message i should be absorbing as a child but that’s that’s so funny that takis you know made this blue heat chip um and people think that they quote unquote copied our flaming blue cheetos that we made the freezing cold cheese they came out before they came out way before yeah we copied them to be clear we copied we were inspired by him yeah we’re inspired by everything by the way well hell talkies takis was inspired by flaming hot cheetos well there you go taki’s came out about a decade after flamin hot cheetos flamin hot cheetos hit markets in 1991 and uh their invention is now hotly contested based on the recent you know what i’m talking about right yeah the whole drama you can talk about it yeah so there was a lot of drama i mean everybody knows that uh the janitor well the former janitor at frito-lay richard montagnes who has an absolutely incredible story and still has an incredible story and i still believe is the inventor of flamin hot cheetos uh he’s working as a janitor and he said that um you know there was like almost a contest within the company to come up with new ideas to help frida lay and you know pepsi codes it’s owned by um and they wanted every employee to feel like an owner of the company and he really took that to heart and he noticed that you know he was at a mexican market and he saw all the spicy mexican snacks and then he saw all these just cheese flavored american snacks next to him and he was like why aren’t we in this market there’s a latino population and he also said he was eating uh elotes on the street and he saw you know the the chile and limon on top of the elotes and he was like we can just take that and put that on the cheetos so he said he stole just a bag of cheetos off the line because he made friends with all the uh the like line assembly workers uh and then just like kind of you know sprayed them down some oil tossed them in chili powder uh in like a little recipe invented and then brought them in and that was the invention of flamin hot cheetos so smart it’s so smart and i mean then he became a vp of marketing uh for friday for like many many years and he had been you know plugging the story a lot he got so much press he has a movie with avalon or a movie produced by eva longoria coming out he’s written two books about it and then la times writes this absolutely bizarre article uh not too long ago that red is a hit piece that was basically implying that he had nothing to do with the invention and they got some people from a team at frito-lay who were working on making flamin hot cheetos in the detroit area and richard montanez is from california and they were basically like yeah he had nothing to do with it this was all some mba from northwestern interesting who invented it and then frito-lay comes out and they’re like yeah we have no record of richard montana’s ever working on it what which is super bizarre and then people started really digging into it and being like well one the origin myth of any food is never going to be provable right yeah like they they didn’t have like it’s it’s absolutely right like i don’t believe that um uh what’s the name caesar due to one minute caesar salad caesar salad man caesar salad man yeah he didn’t he wasn’t the first person one he was a restaurant owner why would he be the one making the salad the chef made the salad uh but you know i’m not gonna go out and try and write a hit piece on this dude’s family yeah right felipe did not invent the french dip you know or was it kohl’s or you know all this uh did chef boyardee was he the first person to can ravioli none of this stuff is provable so it’s like weird to write from a journalistic perspective but anyways point is a bunch of people lashed out at how weird and bizarre that article was uh and then friday comes out and was like never mind richard montagnes did invent flamin hot cheetos psych psych psych huh because of all the negative press they were getting yeah and so it’s absolutely bizarre richard montana is to me he is still the inventor of flamin hot cheetos because he is the one who that the power of the myth was behind correct right 100 so anyways that was that uh and then 1999 is when talkies come out that were inspired by you know uh that and then they eventually flooded the american market in like the early to mid 2000s so when did hot cheetos come into fruition 1991 was when hot cheetos officially what what did you think it was earlier i thought it was like 2 000. no i mean i never remember life without flaming hot cheetos wow or flamin hot fries cause i was eating flamin hot fries when i was like you were eight years old buying them from the right aid wow really i always i’d have no recollection of them like when i was a kid but that’s probably because i was protected yeah like you didn’t like you probably weren’t doing the shopping’s good no it was not i don’t know not at all i think i would i still have panic attacks when i go shopping with my mom and she’s just like i’ll be right back and i’m like okay i remember like the one of the days i realized that i was in like a new income class is when i went to the store and i didn’t have to only buy things that were on sale yeah that was that was wild you don’t have to you don’t have to but you still still do meat especially meat only get sale meat yeah no i never get salem you never get sale me no i don’t sell me something about sale meat makes me uncomfortable no you don’t get manager’s special meat no manager special meat you shouldn’t get but sale meat you always get salmon because they just pick random parts of the cow to put on sale josh i can’t do that but like i will go to the sale and just like look at like uh like like chips or like uh like uh like anything carbohydrate-wise yeah yeah or if there’s like fruits there maybe maybe i’ll grab a fruit but when the kombuchas go four for five dollars oh you bet i’m stacking twenty in that card that’s not the sale rack that’s just a sale special i can’t like the meat i can’t but that has nothing to do with hot cheetos or tacos but you know what i’m excited about what’s that they are coming out with five new brand extensions of takis i saw that that is that’s wild pretty incredible which i think flamin hot cheetos i don’t know they’ve done a lot of flamin hot stuff uh they have the puff corn they have flamin hot puffs flamin hot has gone to doritos to fritos to lay’s chips all that but i still feel like there’s more innovating that flame hot cheetos can do i want them to wow me like what what do you imagine like i don’t know like uh you know i want flamin hot experience like uh some sort of like weaponizable flaming hot cheetos powder like they should come out with flame hot cheetos branded pepper spray you know for ladies and parking garages that’s like like that literally what i said idiocracy literally idiocracy no but i don’t know i mean takis is coming out with all these new uh brand extensions like do you see the talkies watts yes it’s amazing it looks incredible they’re shaped like lightning bolts and they have such an explosive flavor that it makes you feel like your mouth is being electrocuted their brand language is a little bit more coy than what i just said but that’s their whole thing and i don’t know if they’re putting like mala powder in it to make your they give you that electric heat the stuff that’s in sichuan peppercorn or if they’re just upping the spice and sour even more do you think there’s a world in which another brand is going to come in and give us a crazier chip i don’t i actually i talked about this with a journalist who a journalist actually interviewed like me rhett and link together a while ago and i don’t know if the story ever ran but what they were talking about is the fact that chips can only get so spicy before people are like we can’t take this yeah right i mean think about um the way that the fast food market has like when sriracha started hitting big every fast food place had a sriracha thing yeah and then like ghost pepper was another thing that people knew so they all started putting in ghost pepper sauces but it’s like what’s the point of a ghost pepper sauce if you can’t actually make it that hot because you need you know midwestern moms to buy the chicken sandwiches for their kids exactly and that’s their market so it’s like where do you go from there and all these chip companies are finding that out i remember when doritos came out with fiery habanero and those were really really good they’re still maybe one of my favorite chips of all times you could taste the habanero in it oh packy chips those little pocky chips you know the single oh yeah the pocky uh one chip challenge oh you did it i did that there was a video on my instagram doing that did you record me i think that was me yeah oh god i started throwing up on the floor and massaging ice cream into my mouth with my hands i remember it my god so i guess it does exist but i don’t think we’re ready for that as like a as like a society no so what chip companies have been doing is because you can’t go hotter they’ve been going sour i know which like that is also going to reach its breaking point i feel like takis is about to find that breaking point so the big question is like where does the chip market go from there once you get so hot and so sour because you need to keep putting out new flavors right i mean uh let me tell you the best chip as a plane is a simple chip uh uh hot cheetos and tacos are great but a salt and pepper kettle chip with the ridges no way life is too short for plain flavored chips plain whoa salt and pepper wow big give me the weird give me the shocking love weird but you can be weird all the time sometimes i want gasps nicole i want to be slapped in the face that’s another study in philadelphia [Laughter] but no i i i love these chips because i want to be slapped in the face with flavor and no one does that better than takis they are pushing the envelope i think flame hot cheetos they are resting on their laurels they’re resting on brand loyalty they are about to be surpassed by takis if they’re not careful and their chipotle ranch one tastes like bleach it is really nasty that’s like the worst chips i agree with you it’s actually not cheetos ranch on that point have you ever had the the uh what is that the nitro takis those are disgusting nitro are my favorite ew josh they’re twice as aggressive as fuego ew they’re so disgusting resting on your laurels no the point of a chip is to enjoy eating it the point of the chip is to keep eating a chip you wanna eat one chip and let exactly but don’t you you feel i want a chip to challenge my authority as a person i want a chip to make me feel alive by confronting me with death that is what i want from a chip that is what anyone wants i want the sharpness and the rigidity of the takis to cut up my gum lines like they do and then get all of that citric acid and cayenne pepper in there and just scream you will never die the texture of cheetos does not even tuckers cannot hold a candle stop laughing talkies cannot hold a candle to hot cheetos they are so crunchy they are so delicious it tastes better cheetos taste better yeah i agree with that your your tongue is probably like cut up you probably have like the guy in black panther that’s like cut up on his chest yeah yeah that’s what your tongue probably looks like i’m not gonna be able to taste anything in 20 years you have scar tissue on your mouth i’m like the the thing that all the parents warned about where they’re like you’re eating warheads the sour candies like you’ll burn a hole in your tongue i was like that’s bs and i ate 30 more and i’m just like oh my god no i’m sorry hot cheetos are so much better than takis you can eat more of them that’s the point i i do think hot cheetos are more pleasant that you are you are writing that i was i was i was doing a goof talkies are really good though i’m not gonna lie i if if i see takis at a party or hot cheetos at a party i’m probably gonna pick hot cheetos but it’s a cool party to be at it’s a good party to be at i’m trying to think right now bowl in front of me do i go takis or hot cheetos and i would i would eat one taki to prime my palate and then i would start shoving my face with hot cheetos you’re correct you know what you would do you would suck on the taco you wouldn’t even you didn’t even eat the taki you would just do it and then throw it okay literally the the weird thing about taki so i i’m not a particularly health conscious man okay you’ve seen me exist in the world i i go i’m not explaining it i know i i will like i’ll eat a 50 gram of protein protein shake in the morning uh and then i will eat like a whole bread bowl full with mac and cheese and then i’ll go home and i’ll make a nice light fatu salad you know like i like to exist in in both those but yeah like i drink diet red bull in diet coke for a reason right it’s because i can have 12 of them and not deal with you know any of the sugar high the crash the calories all that takis are so calorically dense this doesn’t necessarily factor into my decision but you can physically eat more cheeto true over time because it’s airier which which i kind of agree with like you can you eat like eight takis and you’re kind of like full yeah you know from just all of those calories and all the flavor yeah whereas cheetos you just keep eating exactly keep eating also it’s so much fun whenever you have powder on your fingers isn’t it fun yeah it’s so fun and then you get more powder because you’ve eaten them for longer yeah what kind of person are you are you a person that like you just it’s gonna be gross are you the kind of person who like uh after you finish the bag like you lick your fingers or do you like wipe them off or like in between do you like your like what’s your what’s your like this is a great question of course i’m glad you asked because i used to be a tooth scraper one i always wait until i am absolutely finished and sometimes if it’s like a half hour 45 minute cheeto eating session i mean you’re getting a centimeter of cheeto dust in your pants and i’ll tell you i used to be a bottom tooth scraper what’s a bottom toothpick so i would take your fingers and i would go and i would scrape it physically in my bottom tooth till i get like a chewable mask but now i’ll tell you what i am a sensual finger licker which is even worse because we call what look at me look at my eyes what i do is i get the cheeto that’s my fingers i put one finger at a time and i physically massage my tongue around all regions of my tongue i like until i have licked the entire thing clean like a blow pop was that a satisfactory answer to you and i do that with all of my fingers starting from the middle then going to the index then to the ring then to the mickey ring start with the middle middle always gets the thickest coating could it ask you said ring and pinky that makes a nose you’re eating i go i know it doesn’t make any sense i go middle i go index i go ring i go pinky yeah it doesn’t make sense but that is actually what i do oh so you you when you pick up cheetos or takis you use your whole hair whole hand correct i just use i use my thumb my finger and my indexing my middle finger and i just poke at it no what i do is more efficient i i put my thumb next to my tooth and i just go like this yeah like a baby like a babe sucking at the teeth you suck at your thumb for flaming hot cheetos like the teeth of red dye 40. what is the future where is it where is this all leading because we love both of these snacks and they gotta keep innovating they gotta keep competing i i think i agree with you ultimately that flamin hot cheetos i do prefer we grow up on them it’s nostalgic you can eat more of them but takis to me is more exciting takis is like bitcoin i don’t quite understand it but i understand i should probably invest in it well i was gonna say are you know what the future is for you and i when it comes to hot chips yeah yeah we need to just invest in freedom and and bimbo yeah yeah what we have to do is invest and then maybe one day like hey look at these investors no let’s bring them in and then they’ll be like well like we have ideas cockycoin putting all my money in it let’s go [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai 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um cottage cheese american style cottage cheese because when you talk about cottage cheese you’re basically talking about ricotta right farm cheese uh it’s larger curd yes it’s a larger curd in like american style cottage cheese it’s all kind of the same thing right uh ricotta’s denser and smaller curds and then cottage cheese is like creamier but it all just like refers to the most basic cheese you can make i kind of want to eat cottage cheese right now though yeah why am i craving cold cottage cheese yeah me too cold ice cold cause i was about to say it’s kind of a crime but then i started thinking about cottage cheese filled like in a hollowed out half a cantaloupe oh you would do that yeah i wouldn’t do that i love cottage cheese and fruit oh no even though it is savory no i would just have cottage cheese with salt interesting they’ll go sprinkle but you know you don’t think it would go well on a hot dog no i do not at all oh i can kind of see it no i would gag the second i touch it to my lips because the cheesy flavor the cold cottage cheese and the hot hot dog well microwave it all together stop trying to make me like it i don’t like it uh this this is a combination that i would like to try because it’s so out there i’ve never even thought about it and i can’t imagine the flavors working together because i like mayonnaisey creamy things on hot dogs uh and i like the cold curds the cottage cheese against the hot hot dog i think it’s very interesting i’d like to try this up and down i believe you thank you writer gross okay uh chase underscore hansen 440 says medium well is the least cooked i’ll go on a burger i don’t want too much pink to distract me uh what do you mean distract me what do you mean i don’t know what is that are the colors sensitive to colors i’m confused yeah they’re they’re like uh like photo sensitivity but like chromata sensitivity yeah yeah that makes sense they they have a like a disorder of the retina yeah and they cannot handle a pink burger you know what it is i like my burgers medium well myself i do too because i i don’t like the blood that pulls in the bread i’m not gonna lie oh okay the blood pooling in the bread making that’s why you gotta flip your burger no so it doesn’t pool it stays if you flip your burger i believe this nicole if you if you flip a constructed hamburger every five seconds it doesn’t give the juice any chance to run and it stays in the middle like a gyroscope josh i hate it literally like whenever i see like a line of blood like it may not even be blood maybe it’s just juice like i just don’t like the very vis i’m on the same page as this person honestly i guess i’ll still eat it like i’ll still eat it and i’ll still enjoy and i’ll still savor it but i think i like a more cooked burger patty so the most famous burger in los angeles the father’s office i knew you were gonna say that cause you gotta bring it up so this is the burger that literally it launched in god i think 1999. i think it’s been around for that long shut up it’s like really old um but yeah it really it launched the modern fancy burger movement in america after his name chef sang yoon at father’s office in los angeles put together i think it’s only maybe like a what do you like it uh yes i do i do i like it for what it is but one it’s like hardly a burger because it’s on like an elongated french roll yeah and so a non-circular burger to me skeeves me out a little bit the flavors are really delicious there is a bacon and onion jam on it there is collegio cheese and also blue cheese and then there is arugula on it and the burger is grilled two bordering on the blue i have had some rare freaking burgers there yeah me too um and it’s it’s a good burger but it it’s a good sandwich to me it’s like a steak tartare grilled steak tartar sandwich which i enjoy but it does not satisfy like a burger for my money because it is so freaking rare that you get the texture of the raw meat in the middle which is not something i want for like a burger burger yeah i think i’m just a classic california style burger person and literally when i i was thinking of the blood and the bread i literally thought father’s office burger yeah that’s so funny but i also don’t love smash burgers i also don’t love smash burgers i i don’t need that much crust on a burger i need some something in between a like mid-rare meaty juicy burger and a smash burger which is also just called a normal burger yeah a good a good char grilled burger i absolutely love yeah i agree i don’t necessarily need a rare burger also the usda warns against eating burgers less than like 160 very true capital burgers has a great burger too we should talk about this burger and you’ve never been to capital but never been they say that in and out stole their recipe oh girl talk about that drama alert oh here we go here we go back to the cottage cheese at jmg556 savory cottage cheese sriracha specifically is better than cottage cheese and fruit yeah you live so funny you just talked about that yeah i think say yeah uh it’s not better it’s just different and i think savory cottage cheese is is more my pace i i could agree i will go ahead and jump in and say that sweet ricotta in a dessert is better than ricotta on savory dishes sometimes i really don’t like ricotta in my lasagna i don’t like ricotta on pizzas makes sense i love a ricotta cheesecake yeah uh i think i agree with you on that okay next e gabriel brown says nachos are best room temperature once the queso is congealed and the chips are soft sir let me tell you about a little dish called chilaquiles that i feel like you would really love yeah i mean i understand i get it but i don’t room temperature queso makes me sick yeah yeah i thought about like spooning like just the way that it drags on the plate makes me audibly like the way like a processed cheese sauce sets up in mounds and films and crusts after eight minutes in the open air without heat yes is a little unnerving it is i don’t hate it i just consider it like a savory fudge you know it’s got that fudgy texture it’s not my favorite um yeah the cold congealed nachos at the bottom of like uh the way i’m picturing this is at an angels baseball game you get them served in an angel’s batting helmet cool yeah you know a little souvenir and then you get to the bottom of this big old batting helmet filled with nachos and it is invariably cold and it becomes like a salad um but i’ll all be at all mush but no i mean this is you know gelatinous right which i guess actually the last bite of your chili is where it gets real soggy but my chili achilles never has not like nacho cheese on it yeah fair enough fair enough fair enough i respect your opinion at i’m a cake ninja red velvet cake is gross overrated and tastes like chemicals sincerely a pro-baker oh i’m trying to find the right analogy for this right because we’ve talked a lot about red velvet cake yeah red velvet cake there’s there’s in a traditional red velvet cake there’s no food dye the red comes from the alkalized alkali treated chocolate that interacts with vinegar in a cake which vinegar i don’t really know what it does it gives extra lemonade cakes but it evaporates yeah it does also it gives like i don’t know if you’ve ever had like a vinegar meringue before but it has like a or like a vinegar pie or anything like that oh i’ve had a like a buttermilk and vinegar pie like chest pie it has a nice gives a nice tang which offsets the uh the sweetness of of the baked good but it’s not that prevalent in red velvet cake like that that vinegar flavor isn’t the predominant flavor no i mean the predominant flavor is just a dutch process cocoa like a little bit of it uh so it’s like a very lightly seasoned kind of you know cocoa cake with a little bit of vinegar in it that’s the og red velvet that’s where it came from but once that like red image of the cake became popular all it became was food dye and so it became food dye cake with cream cheese frosting on it anything because i’ve had a legit scratch red velvet cake from a really good baker um and it was really fantastic it was a very cool like moment in time sort of dish uh and it literally has to do with the chemicals that were being used to treat the chocolate yeah and so that’s really cool but i mean i agree with this now is that it’s all just i remember i got a blue velvet cake from wrestlemania oh i thought they had they had it at milk oh did they yeah oh no is is milk bar just doing like blue velvet and red milk bar it was another milk oh milk in milk jar too many bacon too many yeah too many bakeries too many bakers but yeah i agree yeah i agree too yeah i love cake and red velvet cake is not in my top five no no no no coconut cake that’s what i’m talking about give me a good southern coconut cake oh my god it’s just butter butter and just buttery goodness coconut oh my gosh give it merry bear93 says chimichurri is extremely underrated and i also use it as a salad dressing yeah what a great sauce i love chimichurri what a great sauce i’m always throwing like herbs and garlic and olive oil and citrus and acid and spices and stuff into sauces that’s like how i love eating at home you grill any meat you put some sort of herb sauce and i would just call all of that like a salsa verde i guess yeah you know but like i mean chimichurri is typically it’s parsley it’s fresh oregano it’s uh crushed chili flake is typically in it and then a little bit of red wine vinegar olive oil salt correct and also most uh argentines will get pissed off if you do it in a blender yes uh you gotta hand chop it um and then mix it all together and it is really fantastic but i i made one of these sauces the other day that had you know like basil and pumpkin seeds and crap that i blended together and it’s good oh it’s absolutely great but people are like is like is that a chimichurri like it looks like a chimichurri you call it a salsa red and i was like look i don’t know every culture they just they throw things together and they mix it until it tastes good uh but chimichurri is like a very like kind of codified recipe i’m sure people play with and they call it argentinian ketchup yum it’s great make a chimichurri yes wait explain salsa de golf uh mayonnaise and ketchup see es bueno we go at scott boujou ketchup never belongs on scrambled eggs hot sauce or nothing look man look man i’m doing what i got to do to get by in the day okay ketchup belongs on scrambled eggs i agree with that belongs i don’t know can you like justify it from a flavor profile perspective what do you mean i kind of can’t like i don’t know do you think the edgy taste goes good with like sweet and acid it works for me i’ve been doing it forever the funny thing is i agree with you i load i load my scrambled eggs up with ketchup i typically mix ketchup with sriracha or another hot sauce and put it on there but i’m thinking about it now i hate like i hate when people put grape jam on like a breakfast sandwich with an egg i hate when syrup touches my eggs i don’t like sweet and egg in the context of breakfast uh-huh and so i don’t necessarily know why i love ketchup and eggs i only know that i do and i will never stop eating it i will take that to the grave you can pry the ketchup omelette out of my cold dead hands i love ketchup with my eggs and i don’t get people that don’t yeah anna kensomberg says the correct hierarchy of mayo is dukes hellmann’s cupe craft miracle whip doesn’t count don’t dog on miracle come on okay mayonnaise man can you take this cause honestly i don’t care about my knees enough to like rate it absolutely so uh dukes i don’t know if you can call it the best um i i think that everyone grows up with the regional mayonnaise that they prefer uh i happen to prefer hellmann’s we call it best foods out here i have dukes in a solid second this is probably going to upset a lot of people um i actually dislike cupe for whatever reason i still would have it ahead of craft however craft to me it doesn’t have enough egg yolk flavor it’s too sweet it’s too neutral it’s too neutral yeah i need some more acid some more egg in there miracle whip does not legally count as mayonnaise that is correct it does not satisfy the government definitions however i love miracle whip for what it is like miracle whip on a tuna sandwich on some crap white bread is absolutely delicious miracle whip is a beautiful coleslaw flavored aioli it is sweet it is tart it is beautiful but i think this is actually a pretty good mayonnaise ranking i’m trying to think if there are any other mayonnaise out there sir kensington’s makes a really good mayonnaise but it’s almost a little too heavily seasoned for me i love sir kensington’s mayo they have they have a good mayonnaise delicious yeah yeah yeah my favorite i think sir kensington’s might be my favorite actually it’s good they got a little flecks of black pepper and that make you feel alive but i think i’m i grew up in a craft household yeah yeah oh we’re interesting you open craft mayonnaise yeah i mean it’s not that i prefer it it’s just all i’ve ever known yeah i’ve never gone out of my way to taste spoonfuls of mayonnaise this one’s better than this one uh just mayo actually makes a really good product they’re a vegan mayonnaise company um and they are a company that the american egg board is trying to take down because their mayonnaise was so good they’re threatening uh egg full mayonnaise uh market um but that said their product can get tainted by the heat oh that’s i said and so i’ve yeah and so i’ve had some no it doesn’t even separate it um it like gums up because of all the vegan stabilizers in there so i’ve had some that were like kind of heat tainted and sucked but when they’re good they’re good all right we got at sarah hornstein 47 my brother will eat an ordinary sandwich on blueberry bagels like ham plus cheese plus mustard i this is a hotly contested topic uh the bagel choice because a lot of people believe that blueberry bagels uh cinnamon raisin bagels only exist as a trap to weed people out who don’t deserve the good bagels i disagree really i enjoy them i enjoy them for what they are i would never put a full sandwich on it never i don’t want to say never but um i wouldn’t when i go for a bagel if i want sweet i eat donut if i want savory i eat bagels okay i want savory most of the time so i eat many bagel mini bagels that said i don’t love bagel sandwiches oh really oh my god i don’t think a bagel i don’t think it is best utilized as a closed sandwich i believe all bagels need to be eaten open-faced okay i understand thank you for understanding me i understand that but i disagree with you i love bagel you want to know what my bagel is i sure do okay so on any given day and these are my options i would love to have a jalapeno cheddar bagel toasted with a scallion cream cheese a big smattering of black pepper like crispy crispy black pepper all over it and then avocado cucumber tapatio hot sauce red onions what an la jewish girl thing to do yeah i am that’s what i am and i’m proud of it that’s so funny i okay so one of my favorite bagels of all time i don’t know if their bagels are actually good on the general bagel spectrum but um uh isla vista uh what is it called bagel cafe bagel cafe okay one of my favorite bagels of all time and i could not tell you if it actually stands up in the general bagel cannon is bagel cafe in isla vista california shout out ucsb go gauchos but they would serve all of these open-faced bagel sandwiches they did one that was just like uh smoked salmon benedict and it was like you know a galley kitchen that was four feet wide so i don’t know how they were making a hollandaise but they would toast it on the tin foil and they’d put the poached egg on it that was cooked in a microwave but you can microwave poached eggs you sure can yeah you sure can and then they would put the hollandaise on it with a smoked salmon and they would like seal up the foil and serve it to you so you’d unwrap it and it kind of steams that smoked salmon gets a little hot kind of primes the palette yeah change the color a little bit as delicious but they would also you know they throw chipotle cream cheese on bagels with just a sweaty slice of cheddar cheese and like bean sprouts uh and it was good so like i i love that but beef sprouts but if i am eating bagels i’m typically a purist where i’m going plain cream cheese i’m going smoked salmon uh seasoned tomatoes red onion locks uh no not toasted if it’s a good bagel i don’t toast it if it’s a bad bagel sure okay but a good bagel like i am a bit of a purist on that which is shocking that’s fine you can’t you are allowed to be a piercer i contain multitudes yeah i also put a squirt of lemon on mine you have like eight condiments the black pepper the lemon the tapatio yeah at the jalapenos and cheese baked into the bagel yeah that sounds like my 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