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is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and nicole today we’re talking about what time is brunch and this is something that’s come up organically in my life because i get infuriated when people propose a brunch time that i feel is inappropriately out of the brunch window what is the brunch window which with which you appear out of brush the brunch window that i appear from whence i appear i read shakespeare in high school um brunch is a portmanteau right it’s a combination of breakfast and lunch yes therefore the only acceptable brunch time has to fall between breakfast and lunch time which is what time so breakfast time is one i eat about three breakfasts these days i’m on my third breakfast by 11 a.m oh so for me the results are a little skewed but breakfast is obvi morning time whenever you wake up but to me lunch lunch is not until 1pm that is when lunch officially starts and hold on whoa what is that is that controversial no i mean it’s a little late in the day no but yeah that’s why he had three breakfasts oh okay okay okay because you have you have like pre-workout with some carbs and then you have post-workout protein all right and then you like eat a couple spoonfuls of chicken salad and that’s three guys no no those spoonfuls of chicken salad are your lunch they’re your free spoonfuls of chicken salad at 11 a.m or brunch if you wanted to get if you wanted to get pre-launched oh my god okay no no but for real like if you are going to brunch with your friends what time you have you have a ton of friends i like have friends yeah y’all go to brunch sometimes what time um the typical time it has to be after 11 45. okay i i don’t 100 disagree with that because i think that like 11 a.m is too early to get the party started there’s okay there are different brunch times for different people like if i’m going to brunch with my mom like we’re there at like 10 30 yes like if i go to that not just breakfast and i don’t know because the menu has a chicken sandwich on it yeah what are you supposed to do the menu says uh batter chicken a sandwich like what are you supposed to say this isn’t a breakfast item like that’s so rude of you like why would you do that so i think brunch depends on the grouping you’re with i’ve never been to solo brunch before have you no that’s weird oh one time it was like after the dentist and i had a bad time so i don’t know why i did it i was like half numb but they didn’t they didn’t like fully numb it they gave me just like yeah that’s awesome it was what’s that one really expensive place for the white persian food republic come on come on kismet kismet yeah i went and got like uh i spent like 70 on you know leaving hungary um but that was probably the last time i was like rewarding myself for going to the dentist on a saturday nice uh and they straight up fill the cavity without novocaining me ouch they gave me like the tiny bit of the topical numbing stuff okay and it’s like real old-school dentists uh like literally grew up dentisting in the ussr interesting so they were just like we don’t need novocaine we can just go in and so i rewarded myself with solo brunch it was a terrible experience because brunch is social yeah the whole point of brunch is to have it with one other person at least a table of seven oh oh man i’ve been kicked out of a brunch buffet in reno nevada for taking bottomless mimosas too far one time i worked out as a hostess at a place in manhattan beach and one time a girl had her 21st birthday in bottomless mimosa brunch and she threw up everywhere and then we had to we had to caution tape the whole area and that’s all i got brunch is like the modern american hedonism right it really is it’s it’s ba it’s bachanelli it’s buccanelli it’s like the roman feasts where it’d be like the kings ate for 36 straight hours they ate a bushel of grapes and drink a barrel of wine i have to ask you is brunch as enjoyable without bottomless mimosas i have reached the point in my life where i just buy things that i want but i don’t buy anything expensive right like i i buy like a like i buy my t-shirts at target so i can just buy as many 15 cocktails once a month when i want to sure and so i’ll go to a brunch and accidentally order like 70 dollars worth of liquor um which is pretty upsetting when the tab comes that’s happened a fair amount of times uh-huh and so i don’t necessarily chase bottomless mimosas i can’t just order all the drinks that i want to i love bottomless posters i love mimosa places i mean like i’m sorry i love brunch places that offer like three different kinds of liquids there’s your classic orange there’s your grapefruit and then the elderberry it’s like what are you doing here elderberry are you from the cast of richardson or something she’s so classy um i i think the mimosa offsets the experience because you’re probably you know dropping what’s it called dropping tea what is it called spilling stealing tea yes you’re spilling tea kids out there dropping the tea on the tiki takis i only pretend to be cool i’m actually not wait are you gonna go spill the tea you’re gonna go do the hot goss with all your friends you’re gonna get an uber you’re gonna look cute you’re gonna put on top eyeliner like it’s a thing i do generally put on top eyeliner when i go to brunch with all my girls to drop the tee so i do i do identify with this but no brunch can’t be i think the ending point at brunch has got to be 2 45. that is absolutely that is linner what’s up i mean 245 is a late lunch do you believe that that brunch has to be temporarily located between breakfast and lunch or i mean can be eaten at any time of the day you can just have the shrimp no but like do you think that brunch is now like surpassed the original breakfast meets lunch meaning um now it’s just an event where you get hammered off of juice and the cheapest champagne money i mean the hammer getting hammered isn’t like the main point i do think it’s the camaraderie and eating eating eggs eggs have to be there eggs if you’re not eating eggs at brunch yeah that’s true i don’t get it like yeah go ahead i think you’re right with the fact that there’s two different brunches right okay at least the two that i participated in which is granny brunch okay where we go to her old folks home and they have like this giant you know last time we went there they had a whole salmon that had like the cucumber scales on it wow and just like a spoon you just spoon off the salmon and yeah they had all the the jew foods for the old like jewish world war ii veterans that live in this old folks home you know there’s like defrosted locks in the mini sarah lee bagels philadelphia cream cheese packets okay so there’s that which starts at 10 07 a.m and yeah until 11 30 when you know granny gets tired and that’s that brunch you know you’re drinking coffee out of a styrofoam paper cup and there’s inexplicably a whole cooked salmon okay and then there’s the bottomless mimosa batch brunch which i love that to me i’ve noticed that friends will be like we’re doing brunch at 2pm which is bonkers to me because there’s no you’re still getting eggs on the menu yeah i mean i mean but you have to think about it this way so let’s just say you go like maybe you’re going on a hike beforehand maybe you’re going out beforehand maybe you’re going like well my perfect have you ever been to bungalow yeah i’ve been to bungalow is the it is the only time i have ever used celebrity status to get anywhere it works okay so i was this is a bar like when you are 23 years old in los angeles and you want to feel cool you go to bungalow right it is the longest line of any bar i’ve ever been to it was literally an hour long and i was waiting in it and somebody comes up to me he’s wearing an earpiece and he goes hey that chef from good mythical morning i go yeah cool man and they go hey hey one sec um i’ve never done this at all and i don’t plan on doing it much in the future but um is that enough for you to just let me cut through all of this were you alone uh no i was with julian she’s good in these situations oh yeah yeah uh and he did and so shout out to the head of security at the bungalow if you’re listening to this head of security at bungalow please let me in my name is nicole nighty and i’m also ship a good physical warning let me in i’m tired of standing in that damn line for no reason oh wait it’s not that we’re desperate for clout it’s that i wanted to up my mind i get faint in line at that point no but think about it this way like you’re gonna go to bungalow with the ladies maybe some guys are gonna be there and you know the line is so damn long and it’s hot so you’re gonna have brunch from 12 to like 245 you get up you walk over and then you just go and you have a good time i think we need a new word what because no i i i think like a spork right a spork is a combination of a spoon and a four correct and if i were to get have gotten a spork that did not adequately fulfill both of the needs and the functions of a spoon and fork i would feel misled that that was not indeed a proper spark if i am going to a brunch at 2 45 to me that is not fulfilling the properties of breakfast and lunch and i feel it needs a new name no way you can’t call it leonard’s not sexy brunch winner’s not sexy bro brunch is it’s not an objectively sexy okay what about this what a movie you know what i’m saying though like i think we need to keep some sort of purity no no i think once the sun starts to go down around 4 55 that’s whenever it’s dunch i i’m having a dungeon do you eat dunch do you ever do like that big like mid because i don’t like it i normally eat dinner like 8 30 p.m i do too nowadays like eight wait what’s your like what i eat in a day like when do you eat what time do you eat well i wake up in the morning and i have a coffee and then i come to work and then i normally make myself two eggs with cheese and some sort of like chicken breast or like turkey breast like slice thing and then you’re eating that at what like like nine nine forty yeah nine forty five and then i snack snack zach’s ax neck until about like what time is lunch for us 1 30. we’ve been eating lunch late at like two yeah like 1 30 2 30. so you’re doing breakfast at like 10 or like let’s say 9 45 yeah lunch at two two and then i go home and then i have dinner at like 7 45 8. yeah yeah that makes sense and then the weekends what do you do oh whatever i want i’m going to brunch though i don’t go to brunch that much anymore i hardly do anything i’m a married woman i have a house i have a cat now i have to you know sit there and be an adult and you have you have like i mean you do shabbat every friday you like get that socializing that big performative meal yeah i do through that which is which is the purpose of shabbat a lot of people just think it’s like oh religious no it’s to like see what’s going down you’re kidding me yeah you’re seeing the [ ] you’re there to shoot the [ ] with your with your family your friends you kind of get like that brunch thing fulfilled on fridays thanks judaism this podcast is brought to you by jews juicy juice juicy juice alternative for jews no i love let me tell you if i could go to brunch every sunday i don’t saturday brunch i don’t like why it needs to be sunday but do you drink do you drink on a sunday in the morning yeah i don’t i can’t i get the sunday scaries where i’m like i have a lot of stuff to do oh no what kind of mentality is that josh should be sunday happy i have so much to do i mean i enjoy my job but you know what i mean no yeah no on saturdays you have to rest you have to recuperate from your week monday through friday you’ve been grinding you’ve been pushing you’ve been kicking ass and then on saturday you kind of lay there and do nothing and then sunday you’re like okay i’m gonna go put on some top eyeliner and a frilly top i’m gonna go eat eggs benedict with my girls interesting i though like to have a big friday night where i push myself over the edge to complete exhaustion like literally we will wrap filming at say like 7 p.m there have been many fridays where we have wrapped filming say like 6 6 30 a long day on set long day of cooking and being engaged uh and then i will go straight to the gym and then i will hit a really hard workout and i will change underneath the bridge and then i i will just leave my car here and i will just uber to like a bar with friends and then just you know go out into koreatown i’ll eat oxtail stew at two in the morning and then the whole all of saturday and sunday are just spent recovering and just and so for me there’s like no room for brunch in my life because i’m eating a 2 a.m korean yeah a kore karabi gym is the name of the dish and it is the best junk food in the history of the world sounds great at sun nang dan i just i just don’t know i just i guess you’re right i guess i get my i get my kicks on friday night and then but the thing is when i’m with my family on friday i don’t get to like gossip and like key as much as i would like myself so brunch is like brunch does have utility for you yeah but also i do hang out with my friends during the week would you do stuff during the week who does that yeah maggie you do too yeah social i go home and i like stare at a wall and then somebody’ll be like wanna do something and i don’t answer their texts until friday night that sounds like a you problem of course i make plans with people [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection 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like post-church meals they were kind of stodgy and this guy was like yo brunch is this like new thing this is apparently the first time the word brunch was like issued how cool okay uh and he okay so he says uh brunch is cheerful sociable inciting it is talk compelling it puts you in a good temper it makes you satisfied with yourself and your fellow beings it sweeps away the worries and cobwebs of the week and literally the last line of this is just and this is 1895. p.s beer and whiskey are admitted as substitutes for tea and coffee nice and so it was literally like i thought brunch was going to be like well miners used to get off the mines at 9am and so they needed a you know between breakfast and no it’s it’s literally a like boozy brunch batches but from 1895 dude named guy behringer and so and also he says in this article that brunch starts between noon and noon 15. so like my whole thesis of brunch needs to be in that hour between like like to me brunch is ideally before noon because afternoon is lunch [ ] i’m just dumb guy behringer 1895. he debunked it i don’t know man i i still think there is merit to getting up really late on a sunday and going and eating eggs benedict at 2 30. there’s something about that that is okay i think what what we’re deciding here is that brunch is just freedom right like brunch is right brunch there’s there’s eggs next to fried chicken sandwiches wild [ ] granola you know next to salads who gives a [ ] it’s brunch you’re just you’re throwing up mimosas in manhattan beach it’s brunch i hope that girl’s okay oh yeah 21st birthday she was so embarrassed i still remember what she was wearing you’re getting kicked out of reno nevada because you keep smoking cigarettes while drinking your mimosas and there’s children around and reno’s a weird place you drink 18 of them and they say we can’t keep watering them down you’re just going to go into diabetic shock from all the sugar from the orange juice before any of this watered down champagne kills you nicole that is the essence of brunch do you have diabetes uh i was pre-diabetic when i was a kid no way oh yeah pretty hypertensive i thought i had a thyroid disorder too because i was just like real big yeah look at me go man look at you wow we beat the odds um i mean i guess it has a lot to do with freedom but what you’re doing having oxtail sue at 2 am what is that if not no you know what it is deckfus nah dude taco bell taco bell fifth meal for four it’s like seventh meal though if you really looked at it i’m eating seventh meal at like two in the morning uh and it’s my absolute favorite meal of the day like that to me is where i’m at my best that’s where all the no not the tea is coming out that’s where like all of the weirdest conversations yeah you talk about like death and like marriage and taxes and gross stuff yeah no you talk about like all the deepest things in your life and like it can go from anywhere you can go from like raunchy and sexual to just like you’re crying with your best friend because of something that happened 12 years ago oh that’s my brunch it’s what we’re searching for nicole is just catharsis right brunch is catharsis catharsis it is catharsis what’s your favorite brunch meal okay so my favorite brunch that i had it was the last day of service of one of i believe our mutually favorite restaurants a-frame it was a roy choi restaurant uh that was kind of like hawaiian themed and they had an incredible brunch and i’ll never forget the last brunch i went because i had four beverages uh only one of them alcoholic i literally had a cocktail i had a kombucha i had a coffee and i had a juice wow and then i got all you can eat pancakes they’re all you can cash and fruit butter they’re all damian nuts max salad rice and over easy eggs and that to me was the ideal brunch four beverages you got the caffeine to bring you up you got the alcohol to bring it down you got the kombucha to settle the tummy you got the juice for the vitamins you know all of it’s there and that’s my typical ordering strategy at brunch everything yeah correct yeah i love salmonella benedict yeah always i don’t like people that get pancakes at noon wait wait no no pancakes for the table of course oh you do pancakes for the table i’ll always do pancakes to the table any sort of sweet because who just wants to eat a plate of pancakes like for their main meal and so i mean julie and i go anywhere even if we’re with like eight people we just start ordering things at will and force other people to pay for it oh you’re that couple you don’t even ask you just order yeah yeah yeah well people have dietary restrictions what yes we don’t have friends with dietary restrictions what are you talking about what are you talking about like one who doesn’t eat pork until we go like come on and then i’m not trying to fork pour pork on it i’m not trying to force it you’re not a person i’m not a pork for don’t don’t call me you can’t just throw them on allegations i’m not a pork forcer um anywho what’s your general ordering strategy at brunch i haven’t been to brunch in so long i’m like you don’t get it like there’s certain parts of my life that have slightly just changed since i started working here number one number two since i got married like there’s things that i just don’t i don’t go to brunch that much anymore do you miss it yeah yeah there’s something very uh like you said freeing about brunch it’s like i have no worries i have no cares this is my time to just eat drink be merry talk [ ] with my friends but do you think you have more work do you think now you have more worries and cares yes and that influences you of course dude it’s so hard the weekends for me are like i mean this last weekend was like aside from going out and then just being kind of hung over and resting it was like uh taxes it was laundry it was like figured out and he needed to get the cat new food because he keeps throwing up his old food it was like you know uh meal prepping you know cleaning the apartment like that’s weekends are now where you know i’ll have one big grand hurrah you know of just doing a weirdly earnest rendition of creep by radiohead at a korean karaoke bar and then eating short ribs too and then it’s just like business gotta figure it out and there’s like no time in my life for brunch yeah there’s something i think you’re right it’s like going out during the daytime like that is something that’s very youthful and very gaff all you freaking kids out there going and having fun in the daylight it’s amazing wait until the shame of nightfall the way that you feel going listen brunch santa monica the sun is beating down you’re in your cutest outfit you have your little high heels on but not too high because you’re gonna be you know dancing and going about like it’s just so freeing and i do miss it i do miss brunch a lot and i think brunch should be at 11 30 to 2 30 because i’m gonna sleep in and i want to enjoy myself and look good and do my hair and you know what i mean it’s like a very it’s a very like feminine fun thing that i wish i could do more actually last time i went to brunch it was um it was a very boozy brunch uh and it was for a friend’s birthday and it was also for pride and we went to the abbey which is a very popular but a very inclusive and diverse gay bar but i did get asked to leave because i was dancing on the pole and you’re not only if you’re sanctioned or you’re certified or you’re allowed to dance on that pole you didn’t show them your certification i i tried to show them with my moves that i should be certified but there weren’t even any dancers there yet so it’s not like i was taking the tips out of the go go boys you know g-strings i was like i was just up there vibing no no no i don’t know but that was the last like boozy brunch that i did i was respectful at night i apologize that’s good that’s really nice of you but no i need to go to more brunches i think we should we should go together as soon as i said that i was like oh when when are we gonna do that i don’t want to this weekend i’m going to a track meet you know not to compete with what what i’m like oh i thought you say not to compete with what i’m doing what are you talking about i don’t have anything in case you thought that i was gonna run or throw or jump no i know you don’t do that anymore you’re just going to go enjoy the uh the sport of it all yeah like watching beefy boys throw metal balls yeah that’s good what are you doing what am i doing instead of brunching like truly what am i doing this weekend well i have to look at my calendar i really write everything down on big massive calendar and then i also write into my digital calendar so i know exactly what’s going on um oh it looks like nothing who looks like nothing not a thing but you’re still but you still wouldn’t consider i can’t what do you mean you can’t i gotta take care of freedom i gotta take care of my man i gotta take care of my laundry i gotta take care of the dishes i got so much to do i got to dye my hair passover’s coming up i gotta look good for passover rage rage against the dying of the light nicole we’re not neither of us are even 30 yet we can still go out there and i feel 50 are you kidding me i got these old joints i’m in a weird position right now are you taking your magnesium no you know what i missed two days of krill oil and glucosamine and i feel it sister you should put it they should be putting that in your mimosas you should be putting krill oil in your mimosas at least rim it ironically so far we’ve only been talking about brunch in the american context yeah that’s true and i think you know where i’m going with this because the best form of brunch where what dim sum and i don’t know if it’s like messed up to call it brunch because it’s it’s it’s own thing i’ve only been once you’ve only been to dim sum oh no like an oh no no no like oh gee dim sum car situation yeah and i mean like an actual dim sum restaurant like that is what they do not like we have one section of dim sum nothing no no not like din tai fung like i’m talking about like an actual like cart place in like san francisco i went once i think that might be the new dignified way for you and i to get out there and brunch more because i’ll tell you what you can’t you can’t just like get rowdy in the dim sum spot because there’s a bunch of like chinese grandmas around and like you’re you’re already trying to you’re trying to be respectful of course you know um i went with david though and like you know david speaks mandarin uh and so he was and he like you know knows the codes of like which carts you can just snap at and be like hey bring me that like tofu and brown rice syrup which is absolutely freaking all the ginger syrup on the tofu so to me that’s like the dignified brunch type thing that we can do we can start gossiping with the chinese grandmas too i’m so down we need to lean into our age we need to act our age there’s no more just getting schlitty i can’t do that bottomless mimosas can’t do it anymore no you’re not there go eat har gown shumai okay and do it i think i think that is my official plea okay fine you know how to play mahjong i’m going to learn from a chinese grandma i only know old jewish grandma majong and it’s different than chinese monsters well we’re going to learn both ways we’re going to learn that’s it there’s no raging against the dying of the light dylan thomas was wrong whoever the heck that guy is that was come on go gentle under that good night oh oh oh oh oh god i’m old i don’t i’ve never read that i just know what that is you know what i mean no okay fine me and you dim sum carts grandmas mahjong no alcohol only tea i’m in cool freaking down man [Music] alrighty nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitter verse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casserole [Music] but hey nicole before we get into that as many of you likely know red and link have spent over a decade tasting rating and ranking everything from the world’s most expensive desserts to 40 year old ham and eggs and thanks to that now they have a tv show that’s right josh this sunday their series inside eats with rhett and link premieres on food network and discovery plus they head into their favorite restaurants asking questions like what does your chipotle order say about you sounds familiar huh and what happens when you order an entire cheesecake factory menu sounds familiar again doesn’t it sure does nicole be sure to watch the premiere of inside eats with rhett and link this sunday at 10 30 p.m on food network and for even more bonus footage check it out on discovery plus can’t wait to tune in i i actually can’t i really can’t wait not that i thought you were sarcastic but no i’m really stoked to watch and you and i are in one of the episodes we sure are no spoilers no spoilies but i had a really great time and i ate some incredible food that was very jarring to me in a good way so jarryd slap in the face pal all right first up we got at kenzie likes yt chew some strawberry gum for a bit then after you spit it out pour some lemon juice and sugar in your mouth and boom instant lemonade hear me out just make lemonade yeah my problem with this is it’s the opposite of instant you started by saying chew some gum for a bit that’s to make your spit more active i know but i’m saying that’s the odds the opposite of instant if you have to chew gum for a bit to do anything i’d say it’s no longer instant sounds like fun honestly i mean it sounds like a good time you got kids you need to keep them occupied for like an hour hour and a half and you really want to mess up lemonade in your mouth that’s silly i i know this exact sensation and it is a delight though i will say that yeah there’s something about like half disintegrated sugar that really like hits me in my heart listen i’m a guy who would just i would just crunch on teaspoons of sugar for a snack oh that explains so much because you said you were pre-diabetic yes there you go i used to drink like a gallon of like cran apple juice a day and i thought it was good for me because it was you know it’s juice and then gran apple yeah i drink i drink so much store brand knockoff ocean spray growing up that like it was i mean it was really like like 2 000 calories of just uh pure juice no one told me it was not great for you in large amounts well you see no no okay see mitch codrums says pizza dipped in applesauce is fire emoji is it i’m mulling this around in the old mouth mind machine you know put it put it on the spin cycle and the old mouth mind um i don’t know that i can see it maybe if it’s a barbecue chicken i can see that i mean yeah do you ever have those pizzas that are like pear and gorgonzola yeah i don’t know that i ever quite enjoy them as much as i enjoy reading them you know what i mean i read it and i go oh that’s nice so accurate holy [ ] oh my god you’re like why did i do this yeah yeah yeah yeah oh my god you never enjoy put it in your mouth but you read it and you go is that arugula yeah no 100 that’s so balsamic drizzle yeah yeah yeah oh my gosh maybe using applesauce as the base why not no man i don’t know man i just i got a bunch of like uh date syrup a bunch of sea lions yeah in my house right now and i’ve been trying to use it on like weird stuff it’s good with like brie yeah yeah put on some brie and somebody like stews i i really like sweet meats sweet meats and pizza oh no why don’t you just do like a like a little like ceylon and like soy like braised situation and then just put it over your pizza yeah i think i might do that yum oh all right i had steve and malima not sure if someone’s answered this already but i was listening to the architects chips episode and josh asked about that’s me josh asked about soft drinks they’re called that because they have no alcohol drinks with alcohol are called hard drinks yeah i was actually um i was reading about the history of coca-cola or just earlier today okay and they started marketing it as quote unquote a soft drink only during prohibition uh because you know hard drinks and so they’re like this is a soft drink they literally took the cocaine out of it nice to be like hey we no longer have cocaine in here good news it’s a soft drink now so you can drink it during prohibition how interesting so prohibition was also cocaine i thought it was just alcohol i think it was kind of like everything to be a soft drink they couldn’t have cocaine in it also cocaine started like waning in popularity by then by then there i mean like not popularity but like uh legality people were finally catching on like hey maybe this shouldn’t be just in you know a soda pop okay happy inside rtm says my secret guilty pleasure is a sunny side up egg with rice topped with sriracha and popcorn with every bite not so secret anymore is it we got you got outed happy insider um is that what it was i said happy inside rtm i think it’s happy insider tm oops i’m not a reader i don’t know um well this is a great opinion i’m into it popcorn my eggs daddy i will not ma’am uh this isn’t that guilty of a pleasure either to you you looked at me and you said daddy i looked at the camera i meggie can we run that footage back nicki i did not like she called me daddy and there’s already a podcast that’s like called that or something yeah i i don’t know you’re um yeah that sounds nice it sounds like half my brunch at a frame yeah you know they had popcorn chicken on their pants put some footage on there mm-hmm i’m game i’m all about this here we go at mark renek worcestershire sauce goes great with mashed potatoes i know how they know that i know how they know that too i tell you how i know you tell me yeah so they so they cooked meat with worcestershire sauce and then a little bit of the cooked worcestershire sauce got on the potatoes like mmm got dang right got anything am i right and you know who also has that same opinion you do no you’re the director of mythical kitchen ben oh bad oh ben was literally he was literally telling me he was like yeah my dad used to just like drown steaks in worcestershire so now any time i taste mashed potatoes without worcestershire and meat juice on it i think it’s weird yeah well i went to the steak house and um they had like steak sauce and it was gross i don’t die i hate steak sauce oh ew i hate it’s like a raisiny tang gross give me that i hate steaks yeah mommy josh looked at me and said mom i did not look i looked at the table i didn’t call her mommy i did not [Laughter] okay queen underscore of underscore ranch underscore found your new girlfriend josh hey little lady what are you doing on friday night how about you me a bucket of hidden valley and some good times you know just let the feelings roll you like brunch i don’t can i chase the opinion yeah go ahead say it what are you waiting for you’re stalling i can’t with you box mac and cheese with granny smith apples okay yeah those are things that exist uh no that sounds gross as well what the [ ] is wrong with you put corn in your mac and cheesy imbecile oh christ that’s mean that’s mean to your future girlfriend don’t say that to your future girlfriend that’s [ ] up i mean yeah i i understand it i don’t like it but i get why you do it yeah give me yeah put whatever rocks do gala apples do galas in there and then i’m game oh my god you know maybe a jonah gold you know maybe a cosmic crisp nicole maybe uh maybe a honey maybe an enterprise apple what is an enterprise apple uh it’s one of the sturdier apples an enterprise was crossbred with the honeycrisp to create the cosmic crisp that’s right nicole all the flavor of a honeycrisp and all the sturdiness of an enterprise can you [ ] imagine i’ve never told you this before but you’re a really big dork yeah real big dork uh there’s something wrong with my head i know it’s crazy but it’s embracing it it just ain’t right it’s good all right at the drew chef peppercorns in pabst are just hipster orbits what is this this is do you know what orbits are yeah but what why are people putting peppercorns in and pavs i don’t know is pabst brewed with peppercorns that’s like a thing maybe this person maybe this person puts peppercorns in their paps it might be i i’m just fascinated by the fact that pabst is now a hipster thing i mean it has been a hipster thing for quite some tile yeah pbr yeah um but yeah so orbits for those who don’t know they are little balls of floating goo it was bobo before bobo was bob up it was yes before we knew what before the americans knew what bubble was true it was probably in like the mid 90s they were popular it was like kind of thicker clear sweetened liquid that had little like balls of yellow orange blue sort of gelatin in it or something yeah but they were suspended floated edible orbeez edible or probably micro plastics probably ate a lot yeah um but yeah so i guess you’re sucking down you know the peppercorns in the pabst but what do you crunch on them i get i don’t this is a very unique nicole why don’t you know what this person’s talking about why don’t you why don’t you know why queen of ranch and you aren’t together right now i really you know i i’m committed to another yeah i like to self-sabotage as well b underscore beach three says any type of bite-sized pasta such as orzo elbow macaroni or ditalini boiled and served in its pasta milk sort of like a hot pasta cereal was a struggle meal for me growing up and i still think it tastes amazing um i get it it’s like starchy water yeah sometimes i drive people away before they can drive me away you know and so that’s why you know i might come off as like abrasive to people that i care about you know because it’s like what if what if i put my whole self out there you know and sort of try as as hard and earnestly as i can and josh i love you i am not your therapist nicole said i love you inappropriate she called me daddy she said i love you it’s messed up okay have some decorum what are they do they just wait hold on they just called the pasta water pasta milk can we can we get that like almond milk how you like soak almonds and water they just refer to that as the pasta milk and i think that’s beautiful and poetic i think they should make semolina milk yeah i like bee beach three you’re my new my new romantic partner queen of ranch you’re over bbc3 what’s up what are you doing on friday what’s wrong with you right now you’re the one that started it all right at flavor slap 101 sounds sexy eating ritz salt side down is the superior ritz-eating experience did my dad ride your dad sounds sexy this is a very very good opinion a specific opinion an opinion i can wrap my head around now i want the delayed salt release i don’t want the i want the the what is the rx no xr the xr retaining experience i don’t know what xr means extended release oh but like it’s like it’s weird because you know you’re supposed to eat it this way but then you flip it and you eat it that way it’s like what do you mean supposed to who’s out there policing this and when you get the [ ] the ritz believe the little keebler elves are coming out you get the box and you open the top of the box and then they’re they’re presented to you in a certain way well you could just turn it around you know what i mean i’m getting [ __ ] crazy to me okay hobo underscore toaster when i was a kid i put scooby-doo fruit snacks in between two cheeses best snack of my life it was similar to jelly on crackers except not what the heck is going on what are you talking about it’s similar to it’s not similar to jelly art doesn’t say eating a rock is like similar to a banana i don’t know this is this is so this is so funny because i understand like when you’re a kid like how are you in your brain you’re like scooby snacks are just jelly but they’re hard i guess yeah yeah and like a cheese it’s like a cracker but jeez yeah no this makes total sense i hobo underscore toaster i know what’s really what are you talking about you know what’s really tell hobo tells her don’t go out with nicole she’s married um what’s interesting to me is they said when i was a kid dot dot dot best snack in my life that implies that they’re not doing this right but they were when they were kids they were with it but if it was the best snack at all wouldn’t they try and chase that do you think they have an imperative nicole if you had the best food in your life when you were a kid wouldn’t you make that again i don’t think they would think it was the best food of their life what scooby snack is the best the blue one i don’t know i don’t eat gummies anymore because my teeth yeah a lot of dental work i don’t mess it up all right one more last one it’s a doozy nicole’s one’s a doozy you ready for a story from at rose colombe born ready one night my wife and i got drunk and decided to make what we named cereal salad is that what they’re calling these days which was just every cereal we had in the cabinet put into a single bowl it consisted of fruity and cocoa pebbles cap and crunch frosted flakes and a couple others it was almost jarring how much we liked it we tried it again after we sobered up and it was still just as pleasing it was life-changing and this is now a regular breakfast for me one day i want to try every cereal together to see if it holds up nicole every cereal together i think this is a beautiful love story and this is what you and i should always like achieve with our partners like like yeah no of course with respect to i think this is like the point like you this is the point of falling in love okay you get drunk and you just do stupid stuff together and then you sober like the stupid thing that we did makes sense that we should do it all the time like that’s the true meaning of love i’ll tell you what this this friday uh at like 2 a.m jules and i got home from the bar um in one we ended up at a weird dive bar buy our house that like we’ve never been to and they just had like 15 tupperwares out filled with random snacks that had probably been there for about seven hours so you know you know some bars of peanuts and pretzels this place had like peanuts pretzels beef jerky six cans of m m’s skittles just a loose tub of queso that i dip beef jerky in did you say loose tub of cake did it have a skin on it yeah definitely and i kind of broke through it with the beef jerky uh anyway we got home and i started making salsas from scratch and grilling up quesadillas and it was like three in the morning watching west side story just eating you know the new chicken quesadilla uh with gansel melmort that’s whatever his name is and then ansel elkhorn i don’t care and then we canceled with with like an avocado pistachio and zatar salsa that i made what a time one time and 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