Welcome to “Ear Biscuits”. I’m Link. And I’m Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are exploring our polar opposite weekend. We went to each pole of the earth. Well, we both went on an adventure. Yeah. And the adventures couldn’t have been more different. True. And you know what? We’re both wearing coordinated adventure outfits today. We’re both wearing camo. Yeah, well camo sweats. I gotta camo sweat on the inside. Yeah, camo sweats With a jacket over it. on the outside. And you’ve got black shirt But With a camo jacket do you have On the outside. Polar opposite, but it’s the same. Do you have that? Do you have a lightening bolt? I do not have a lightening bolt. I win. You probably paid forty more dollars for that. But look, hey look what Kiko’s got on. Kiko’s got on camo pants. He’s also got on camo sweatpants. Those look like No, on a, Mythical pants. This isn’t just the fact that we’ve got camo on. It’s that we’ve all got camo sweats on. Yeah. That’s different. We’re ‘viving. That’s better. If you don’t have camo, get the hell outta here. Jacob, Jenna, Feldman. I think Jacob’s could be camo. That’s not camo. If he were to go inside like a cave where there was like paintings. It’s like a cave painting shirt. And then Jenna could be camo if she went into like a denim factory. She could then be camo. I’m Canadian tuxedo. I’ve got a Mythical shirt on. And then Feld, well then you. Okay, you’re wearing merch, so you can stay. You can stay. Yes, so we went on these adventures. I went, um, on a camping adventure that I would love to tell you about. And what, you went on an adventure. How would you describe it as a polar opposite? Um, it wasn’t outdoors. It was very, very indoors. Tell the, tell the people. Uh, I purchased a VR headset. You know what? I actually did? I actually traveled the world, but I never got outta my underwear . And I am, ooo buddy, I’m excited about this. Now. I brought it with me. I have it. You have it? I put it on your head and my head at some point. I. And what is it? What’s it called? It’s the Oculus Quest, which is the standalone, not a sponsor, standalone Oculus headset. Now we played with the Oculus Rift on GM More, I guess, before. Mmhmm, yeah. But that’s the one that has to be hooked up to a, like some sort of PC or whatever. Every time they hook me up to that thing on Good Mythical More, it’s just to scare the crap outta me. Yeah, and what, and you know what? I’ll talk more about that, about how I feel like my experience differed from my previous experience with VR and also. I need a positive VR experience. This one, I don’t know if I’m gonna give you that, but I’m not gonna give you any wires. That’s one positive. I’m gonna just give you no wires. It’s all right here. It’s just, boop, all one thing. And I think I’ve changed my life and changed my family’s life. Uh, so I’ll talk about that. Um, you know it’s, I woke up this morning. The reason why I put on camo is because it’s finally getting at least cooler here. You know, if I get up early to go to the gym. Camo, cool? I something. It’s not to make you cooler. It’s to make you not be seen. Do I need to Well explain camo? This is sweats, though. Like wearing a layer of sweats. Well you just don’t have on sweats. You have on sweats and a jacket, which by the way, we went out on a double date the other night, uh, with our wives and, you know, it had been a little bit cooler than it has been. It was like 66 degrees. Well. Link shows up at my house. He has on a shirt, a sweater, and then a jacket over the sweater. Oh yeah. It’s like what in, what is wrong with you? And I got my bandana in my, in my jacket pocket in case I need to really get my neck warm. It, I, when we went down to It may have gotten down to 63 degrees. We went down to a place called “Eataly” where all these different markets and places that there, it’s all Italian food. And Christy and I love Italian food. And you and Christy love novelty foods. And, and they Novelty foods. And you had been, you had scoped this place out. You told her about it in passing and then she never forgot about it. She’s like we gotta go to this place. And I thought since it was, I mean, I thought it, it was on the west side. And I’m like, ooo, once you go, once you leave the valley, it’s liable to get cold over there, ocean breeze. I gotta be prepped, man. Well. I coulda left it in You’re not wrong. The car. I coulda let the sweater in the car. It was hot. It was too hot. I mean, You could have gone to like, Oregon, the way that you were dressed. I, I just, you know, it just felt, it just felt inappropriate. But I, I’m ready for it to get cold, man, ’cause I’m gearin’ up for it, you know? It’s like, speaking of gearing up. You know, it’s the middle of October. Oh, we. We’re about to do the Bleak Creek Conversation. We got some stuff comin’ up. At least we’re traveling to places. I mean, Boston. That’s gonna be cold. This is, this is my sly promotion of Bleak Creek Conversations in the midst of conversation. Yeah. I mean it’s gonna be cold in Boston, New York City, Chicago. I don’t think it’s gonna be cold in Dallas or Winston-Salem, and then we’re gonna be back in Los Angeles. Yeah, you’re, this kinda fell apart there as we moved into the warmer regions. But yes, those are the Bleak Creek Conversations. We’ll be talkin’ about the book. You get a book just by getting a ticket and, uh, we’re gonna premier the documentary there that we shot in Buies Creek and the Los Angeles show is going to feature all your favorite Mythical crew members if you wanna, uh, glad hand some of them. When you’re comin’ out to Dallas, wear, wear your Halloween costume. I’m only using the term glad hand because I know that you like using the word, so I just was tryin’ to throw you a bone. Now that you started usin’ it, I don’t even think I use it any more. Oh, you stopped. But I just, I think fall, like the precipice of fall is my favorite time of year, just ’cause I love jackets. Yeah, I hear ya. You know, and I like layers, man. Well, I’ve noticed both of these things. I love it. And that’s what’s gonna make the Bleak Creek Conversations more special, is my layers. How many layers you gonna bring on stage? Uh, maybe three, four maybe. Uh, we’ve also got the Rhett and Link Live, four more shows coming up in November. If you wanna see us, this is the time. Guys, we’re tired of traveling. You know what? We’re, we’re gonna, I, and now that I got this VR headset, I’m not gonna leave my home. So in 2020, it’s, you ain’t gonna get a chance to see us. Uh, and so if you wanna see us, come to one of these shows. Um. Rhett and Link live dot com. So to get into my camping excursion, we, we did two nights camping in Sequoia National Forest. Um, you know, things have just gotten so busy for us over the years. We used to go camping. We used to go off-roading. We used to do things. With a. And a lot of times, with our friend Nick. And, so Nick texted me, and he was like, hey, um, Allison, his wife’s out of town. He’s taking his girls camping. Um, and they’re pretty young. I’m not good at estimating ages. Uh, how old are they? They’re probably five and seven. Maybe eight. I’d say seven and four. Yeah, they’re, ’cause Lando’s only nine. And, you know, we only had this one weekend but it kinda worked out perfect that it was open. I mean, when your kids get to be 16 and 14 and 15 like Locke is, they start makin’ all these plans and they don’t even tell you until, so hey I need you to take me to so-and-so or I’m doing so-and-so or all my friends are comin’ over and it’s like, I mean my weekend is just planned because I just have to be around to make sure they don’t do somethin’ stupid. Right. But lo and behold. Guardian. This week, guardian, this weekend there wasn’t anything. And I really wanted to go camping. I really wanted, I was pining to take them camping, ha. That’s good. Um, I felt sure they wouldn’t be up for it, but I was like hey, you wanna go camping? And they got that look on their face they get whenever I mention the word camping and hiking or just anything involving activity outdoors, or not a screen. Um, but then I said with Nick’s girls, Avonlee and Aria. And, they all lit up. And they’re like, yeah. And I was like, whoa this is great. Yeah, let’s do this. So we went, we went camping with them. And, um, on our way in, something, one main thing happened that I wanna tell you about. But just as a preamble, um, of course all over the State of California, they’ve got these fire towers that have been built as like lookout locations from like high vantage points in mountains all over. I’m sure this is not limited to California, but it’s very important here, especially with the fires and whatnot. And, you know, you stand up on this really tall tower, and you look out to see if there’s a sign of a fire and it’s kinda like the opposite of Lord of the Rings where somebody would light a fire and then oh, you could see it from the farthest mountaintop and then you would light your fire and then the next mountaintop at the horizon would see it. Signaling system. It was a very efficient long-distance signaling system. Um, they have a signaling system for when they see fire because the fire needs to go out. I’m drawing a comparison, but it’s probably way different, maybe the opposite. Um, they don’t use them that much any more, so it turns out, um, Nick had this idea to go see a few of them and we, on the way in, we went to the first one. I wonder why that is, though. I think because of helicopters and different ways that they surveyal. Drones? Perhaps. I can’t say, but I do know that they don’t use many of the fire towers any more. Um, some of them have been burned by fires. Yep. You know? Well, that’s sad. It makes sense. Yeah, it’s made out of flammable material. Well, you put a tower in place that there might be fires, eventually it’s gonna burn down. Well, that’s the spirit. Um, so we get to this tower, and there’s a car parked there because someone has rented the fire tower to camp in it. How freakin’ cool is this? Now that sounds like somethin’ I’d be into. So we look up there. I mean, this thing is freakin’ tall, man. And. How many feet? Oh, gosh, are you tryin’ to make me look stupid? No, just give me an estimate. Uh, well I’m six feet tall. Oh gosh. That’s not a good place to start. Yeah, I can’t eye a tower and know how tall it is. Well is it a thousand feet tall? 35 feet. Or is a hundred feet tall? It’s 35 feet tall? So that it’s just tall as like jumping off the cliff at Lake Acapulco? Yeah, it might be a little taller than that. I don’t think it’s 50 feet. It’s gotta be taller than 35 It’s not 50 feet. Well, I’ll show them a picture in the video version. How many steps did you go up to get to it? I didn’t count the steps because the girls How many full flights of stairs did you go up? It was one really straight flight, a long ways up. What, it never, there was no switch backs? No switch backs. It was . Straight up, very steep too. And they were. Weird. They were like poured concrete steps, very, very steep. Um, we were able to go up there because the two women who were camping up there, right when we got there, Nick was like, hey can we come up? They were like, uh, sure. So we go up there. Um, two women and a dog up there. We start lookin’ around. This place is surrounded by Sounds like a sitcom. Surrounded by glass. Just filing away ideas over here. You have to go on the website exactly six months in advance of when you wanna book this place and like it’s like you gotta be on, it’s like gettin’ tickets. High demand. It’s like gettin’ tickets to see Billy Eyelash. You know, you gotta be all over it. Right. Oh my gosh, it’s sellin’ out. Mmhmm. And, um, that’s how it is with a lot of these camping places. But it’s pretty cool. It’s very windy up there. Of course a great view. You know you’re gonna get Yeah, yeah, yeah. a good view in a fire tower. You’re above the trees, right? Above, above everything. You’re on a mountaintop. You’re on a mountaintop. Then on a tower top. That’s why it doesn’t have to be super tall. Which is at least 75 feet in the air. It doesn’t have to be. That makes more sense. I’ve been picturing, like a long stretch of trees and then just like a giant tower that’s looking over ’em, but yeah, makes sense. It’s on a mountain. You gotta be careful comin’ down. And if you gotta use the bathroom it’s a long way to go down to get to that outhouse down there. Oh, there’s no, like tube or anything up there on the top? No. And they had a pulley system to pull up all their crap. Oh surely you can just pee off the side. So that was pretty cool. I mean, we just camped on the ground. And then we go to the Trail of a Hundred Giants where they don’t have 100 sequoia trees but there’s a lot of sequoia trees growing. You and I went there with Mike, probably seven years ago. Five. Five years ago. And it’s a very accessible path. If you’re, if you’re thinking about going in that area, I definitely recommend going to the Trail of a Hundred Giants ’cause you get to see all these sequoia trees up close and even if you’re not great at hiking, it’s right off the road. Right. You may remember when we went that a double sequoia grouping had fallen. Like there’s two sequoias that grew basically right beside each other and, I mean, these are the largest living things on the planet by mass. Like, more massive than a blue whale, the sequoia trees. So, and pictures don’t do it justice but it is amazing just to be there. I mean, seeing the redwoods is awesome. Redwoods are taller but sequoias are fatter. Are fatter, bigger around and stumpy. Still freakin’ huge and tall. Um, you may remember that two of them fell at once. And one of ’em. across a path. Somebody caught one on. There is a YouTube another one. There’s a YouTube video, They don’t fall very often. They’re in the winter of um, some falling. Of one being caught falling, which is crazy. I mean if one of the largest things on the planet is falling and you’re there for it. Well not just that. You’re gonna pull out your phone and record that stuff? It’s the fact, they’re what? They’re. What are you a frickin’ war journalist? They’re like a thousand years old or something, so the chances of you catching it falling, I mean, it’s just very very slim chance, but I guess people are always there walking. Well not in the winter, not when it’s like really snowed in. They tend to fall under the weight of the snow. But when we went in the summertime, they had started to rebuild the path that the sequoias had fallen across, so that now you could, and we climbed on it . They leave, yeah, of course they leave it all there ’cause it’s amazing to be able to walk on it. Yeah, they don’t really, I don’t know that they want you to walk on it. They built the path around it. Oh, they didn’t build the path through it? Like a tunnel? No, um Missed opportunity. Call me next time. Well, update since we’ve been. Another huge sequoia tree fell this past winter. What’s happening? And it fell Mites? They said it was from the weight of the snow. You know, we had a lot of snow last winter. It fell. Not only did it fall, it fell diagonally across the two that you and I saw. Oh, it’s like we’re starting a, like a Lincoln log situation. Yeah, they’re stackin’ up. They’re building themselves the largest cabin. Ever. So we are, so that whole part is closed down. You can’t walk over there, except for the fact that everybody still walks over there. And climbs on all of it. So we’re climbing on like these three sequoia trees that are basically stacked on each other. I mean, when it’s laying on its side, it’s still like eight feet tall. Yeah, they’re big. So you’re having to climb up on this thing. So I’m climbing up there, and Lily and Lincoln are in front of me at this point. And I just see Lily who’s standing. As I’m climbing up, she’s standing looking down. She’s like oh no, oh no. There’s no way. I can’t believe this. And she’s staring down. And she says, “My phone fell out of my pants.” She was wearin’, she was wearing some sweatpants, not unlike the ones that Kiko got from Mythical.com. Dude, you gotta be careful hikin’ and doin’ activities with your electronics in a pocket of a sweat pant. Right. And of course, I’m immediately like, wanting to go into dad lecture mode. But then I thought, you know what? This is the moment that heroes are made of. ‘Cause she looked down and I get up there and I, before I even saw where the phone was or whatever, I was just okay, it fell down there. We’ll go get it. I’ll get it. How big is this hole? Be the hero. But then I got up there and I looked and it had fallen. It had bounced Plinko style in between the stack of three sequoia trees down into a hole. And the hole was, um, no, I could put my, I could put my head and one arm through it. Like it was about that big around. That’s all it was. How far were you from the hole? You had to go down into it. So, I crawled down and was like listen, let’s not panic. She was like, “Dad, it went in that hole.” Like. Probably like 700 phones in there. There’s somethin’ about, I just have this belief whenever you’re losing something. It’s like if you believe that you can find it, it drastically increases the chances that you will find it. Like, because if you don’t actually believe you could find it, but you still look, it’s really, you’re just kind of half-ass looking, you know? Like, subconsciously, you know you’re just going through the motions just to say you did. Yeah. And I believe this. This is one of my deeply held beliefs, Rhett. How many deeply held beliefs do you have, if this is one of them? Probably, probably this and like that layering is good. When in doubt, layer out. There’s not a lot. Yeah, those are my main ones. So I Get down on my belly. I crawled down over the first tree and then lay down on the second tree, the older tree that had fallen, and then I look in this hole and then when I look in the hole and I’m, I’m holding on to my phone, putting it all the way into the hole with the flashlight on. Risky business. And I’m looking down. I’m like, I could freakin’. I had a vice grip on this thing. The shakiest man in the world is holding his phone over a phone hole. I’m like. A phone hole. And I’m like, I cannot lose my phone. That would make me really angry. So far, I just find this amusing and a good occasion just to lecture my daughter when it’s over. Yep. And I look down in there and it splits into two holes. Oh gosh. And there’s sawdust and sprinkles and shards and all types of sequoia carnage down in there. Sawdust, so somebody was tryin’ cut a hole through ’em. No, I just think the more people walked on it, the more debris went down in the hole. Oh, okay. And Lily, I said Lily you go down. She goes down below the second set and she’s, I can hear her but I can’t see her. And we’re at opposite ends of, like different accesses to this hole. And I’m thinkin’ if these things shift, we’re gonna get crushed by a frickin’ sequoia, the largest thing on the plant’s gonna smush me and my daughter. It’ll be worth it, though. But we gotta find this phone because that’s all that matters. Right. Did you ever, did you ever say She. I will find it. I will find you. Did you ever say that? No, I didn’t say anything. Because you believed it so deeply, though. Thought maybe you woulda done that. Okay. So I’m lookin’ down in there. I’m pulling debris out. And I’m like, if it went into this hole to the right, you’re never seein’ it again, ’cause the hole to the left, it sounds like it’s closer to to you. And then Lily’s like, I can. She starts crawling in there. And I’m gettin’ really nervous that she’s gonna get crushed. Well if they haven’t shifted yet, I don’t think that a couple of people on them is gonna cause ’em to shift. At some point, everything shifts. Yeah, but what are the chances though? Its worth it. And you need your phone. You got your contacts in there. Um, Lily had been in kind of a grumpy mood before this. She a She’s a teenager. You know. You chalk it up to that. Teenagers and big trees, they don’t mix. Or hikin’. Yeah. She’s like I got it. I’m like what? You got it? She’s like, “I got it.” And it’s like I stood up. She comes out from under these sequoia trees. She’s like, “I have it.” “I have it.” And she was, it was like, it was so worth it. Yeah. Like that’s the key to making teenagers happy. Take something they love, then make ’em find it. Get, let ’em have a near phone-death experience. She was exasperated. I mean, she rode this emotional wave for the next 17 minutes. Oh. It was amazing. I even vlogged about it. I missed that. I didn’t post anywhere. Oh. I’ll post it on the video version of this. Okay, so Lily just found her phone. Let me see it. You got it? Prove that you got it. So we were walking up here where this fine young man is. Don’t drop your phone. You see how you got your phone in your hand? Don’t drop it because it will go down into that hole which is underneath a fallen sequoia tree, giant sequoia and then you’re gonna have to get down and look for it. Oh my gosh, I can’t believe she found it. I was like, I was so relieved. It’s like it feels so good to find something. You know that time that like we went boating and then Chris threw his, like some, who threw the keys? And they went in the water and then we were, he was, I was like you can find ’em. And he waded out into the water. As I recall it, you threw the keys and they went low and they hit the side of the boat and dropped directly into the lake. And then the boat drifted And without hesitation, like Chris dove down and came up with the keys which never happens. Crazy. Never happens. If you drop keys in a lake, you’re, they’re always lost. I think that’s the root of my faith Oh, you should in the believing you can find something. You should tell Chris that. Yeah, Chris formed the bedrock of my faith in finding things. And that’s why I found that skittle on LTAT so quickly. Here it is, right here. Isn’t that an M&M? ‘Cause I believed I could find it. I think you found it because you were closest to it. But I mean, I I believed I could find it. Okay. And I did find it. So there’s not really any arguing with that. I found it very quickly. You did. 1600 M&M’s, I found the Skittle in 20 seconds. Belief, man. It’s a beautiful armor. Beautiful armor. Makes for the heavies sword. Like Punchin’ underwater. You never can hit what you’re aimin’ for. I don’t think he says aiming. Uh, there it is. Yeah, these 41-year-old white boys know some John Mayer. Nothin’ like, Lily knows some John Mayer, too. Um, yeah. Felt good, man. It felt good to be in the outdoors finding a phone, maintaining a lifeline. I’m proud of you. But teetering on the edge of being isolated from an electronic. Well, ironically, your entire, I will say. I must point out that your entire story about camping and being in the outdoors centers around you recovering an electronic device. It does, doesn’t it? Which I think is a great lead in to, I just didn’t go camping at all. I just found the electronic device and enjoyed it for the weekend. We’ll talk about that. But first, we do wanna let you know that we got some new designs that just dropped. Mythical dot com. I mean we got, I don’t know. There’s like seven new t-shirt designs? Is this the largest drop ever? We’re gonna say no, it’s not the largest drop ever but it is amongst the largest drops ever. Seven new shirts that ironically we are not wearing right now. Because they’re too awesome to wear on a podcast. I don’t think we have them yet. Check out everything at mythical dot com because rep your boys. Feel good, you can feel good knowing that what you’re wearing makes our lives possible. Sends us on trips, camping. Yeah. Gas money. Yeah, but then you’re responsible. I mean if you were a wasteful, wasteful dude, and your daughter drops her phone and you’re like screw it. We’ll get another one. You know, but you didn’t say that. You said, I gotta be, I’ve got to be a good steward. I’m gonna find this phone even if it means sacrificing the lives of me and my family, I’m gonna find this phone because I’m a responsible, frugal man. I was not the hero ’cause she found the phone. Yeah, but you know, That’s the part that sucks. it was your deeply held belief that led her to find the phone. Because she had given up. It was obvious in the tone of her voice. In the vlog? Yeah. That you didn’t see. Yeah. Mythical dot com, check it out. Okay, Rhett, let us have this VR thing. You didn’t tell me you were getting this. This is Well, it was spur of the moment. This, oh. It was an impulse buy, which I haven’t done in a while. Good gosh, I gotta take off my jacket. Yeah, why don’t you de-layer. Since we’re It’s gettin’ warm in here. Actually in shelter. We’re actually in air conditioned shelter right now. Gettin’ hot in here. You could be naked and be comfortable in this particular room, um. Whew. Uh, so this is how this happened. Uh, I was listening to a podcast and the guy who, I think he, he’s like a video game guy. I don’t, I can’t remember his name who’s currently heading up, or at least intimately involved with this Oculus Quest program. This is how out of the loop I am when it comes to this stuff. I didn’t even know that this thing existed. It’s been out since the spring. Okay. And if you’re any sort of follower of this type of thing, you already knew this. But I’ll hold it up or you, Link. Hold it up for me. Oh, gosh. Okay, so it basically looks like This is it. An ocular This is the whole system. There are no cords. Uh, it’s a true standalone system, which it’s not the only standalone system but it is the best standalone system as far as I can tell based on what the research that I’ve done because most of the reviews said that for the uninitiated, if you were, unless you were playing a game on this and then playing it side by side with something on the Rift, which uses PC power, you wouldn’t really know Oh really? The difference. It’s not like there’s like a latency issue or anything like that. Some of the things that play VR. Now the resolution I think is a little bit lower. But depending on what the game that you’re playing, the resolution, you quickly adjust. You quickly adjust to, you know, the resolution, which is, you know, not great but it’ll definitely get better in the future but it’s more than adequate. So, he’s talkin’ about this thing and, by the way, I see that you’re smelling that. This is washable guard that I got that you change out, ’cause you know, I got my kids’ faces goin’ in this thing. Have you washed it? My kids. My kids stick their faces in so many. So this actually, this cover was just installed this week, so Shepherd has worn this a little bit and I’ve worn it a little bit but that’s it. But just like once or twice. I don’t know exactly what, I don’t know what over, what came over me in order to make this purchase. But he was just talking about it and it just hit me. When they began talking about, this is really a turning point for VR now that the systems are standalone and you don’t need a PC or console. You could wear this on a bus. It felt like a prescription for me. It was like, oh this is a turning point for you, Rhett. This is when you, this is when you, a guy who doesn’t wanna have a PC at home and hook it all up and have wires. We don’t even have a place for that. Yeah. This is when you can get in this game. ‘Cause you, you’ve been wishing you were on the inside for a while. I just like feeling like I’m on the cutting edge, man. Even though I’m not, as is evidenced by the fact that I didn’t even know this existed. I don’t like go to CES and stuff like that. But I just like the idea of feeling like. One of my deeply held beliefs is the idea of feeling like I’m on the cutting edge. Okay. How quickly did you get it because you wanna be. Same day. What, really? Welcome to America, man, 2019. You got it the same day? I ordered this thing ‘Cause I was gonna say On Amazon You could wear off. And it came the same frickin’ day. Like it’s such a reward for an impulse buyer where you can get something delivered to your door the day you make a decision to buy it. Did they know you were gonna order it or something? I just think that they. Was he out there just waitin’ for his ding to ding? Ding, ding, ding. I don’t know how the ding dings work, but uh, I just know I got it. I got it on a Friday night. So. And then everything else stopped, huh? This is the Friday night that I was camping. Yeah, put that in perspective. So, to give you an idea of how this all went down, now I’ve got some VR experience, having played on Good Mythical More, along with you, and because I, I feel like you’re getting distracted. I’m listening. You can’t think about two things at once. I’m listening. So don’t, just pay attention. I’m gonna hold this over here. Um, I feel like every previous experience, now the experience we had at Sundance a couple years ago and we went into this, we went into that, we did the VR and we were like walking on the plank and we were working with each other. Full body. Um, Tactics. That was pretty amazing. I mean That was crazy. Weren’t doing it for, we were kinda thinking about the fact that these people were watching us and so we’re still trying to play it up like we do, but obviously when we do it on Good Mythical More, I know that I’m on a show so I never forget that I’m on a show and so my brain is focused in two different places, inside the headset and the world that is being broadcast to me, but also the world that is being broadcast to you. You know you’re being watched. And so it changes the experience and I didn’t really have a mind blowing experience. It didn’t feel like a pivotal thing for me. Because I haven’t, you know, We’ve got it At Sundance or at More? In More. Okay. We have an Oculus Rift here. Have I ever said hey I’m comin’ in for the weekend to play it? No. Have I ever asked anybody here, can I get on the Rift? No. So why would I buy something to have at the house? Because I can have it at the house. Because I can make it my own personal thing. There’s no wires. Now, So what does it do? Do you remember, what does it do? I mean what You know what it, did you do on it? You know what it does. So do you remember, um, I don’t, did you get a Nintendo right when they came out? I got one for Christmas, when they were selling ’em with the power pads, but I did not get the power pad. I have to think it was around that same time. I don’t remember not having one. Well. Like when everyone was talking about it. I think Nintendo came out in ’87 and I don’t know if it was Christmas of ’87 or ’88 when we like when I think it We at Buies Creek got word. I think it was ’86 actually. ’86, okay, so the next year, it must have been Christmas of ’87, ’cause there’s no way that we were that on top of the trends. No. But, so by the time Nintendo was being sold at Brendle’s, like when my parents Yeah. Were in the game, and we had an Atari, and I played Atari. Yeah, sure, I played some. Yeah. But I specifically remember sitting down and playing Super Mario Brothers in 1987 and feeling like something had shifted, that my life was going to be different. And I remember, um going to bed that night and thinking about Super Mario Brothers, like it was the line between reality and dreams had been disintegrated. Do you know what I’m saying? It was like, it was. It’s interesting. For me, I remember getting that feeling when I first got cable and I watched Nickelodeon, like I couldn’t stop thinking about what else I was going to get to watch on Nickelodeon. But I didn’t have That’s an interesting take. But I didn’t have that reaction to video games. Well, you know. Finally programming just for me. That’s always on. Yeah, you know just think. I’m missing something. It’s difficult to emphasize just how different it felt and how big of a leap it felt like. Now, that was pretty much, that was the biggest leap for me, and then I never got Super Nintendo. We got a Sega Genesis around, like a year later or whatever. Those are really the only two gaming systems that I ever had. I didn’t, my life changed and I got busy with sports and stuff and then we just never ended up having consoles. I just wasn’t a video games guy. And of course I haven’t been as an adult. But putting this on, and I was playing the game, the two games that I downloaded were Beat Saber which is one that everybody says you gotta have, you gotta have it. It’s and essential game on the Quest which is essentially Dance, Dance Revolution with the light saber. You’re basically sitting there with two sabers, yes, and you’re chopping the saber, chopping these blocks, red and blue block, depending on which side it’s on, to a beat. And you’re doing it in all different ways and you’re dodging things and whatever. Pretty awesome. But I also downloaded a game called Superhot. Now it sounds like it might be a little Racy. It’s not A little slinky dinky. Uh, it has nothing to do with dinkies or slinkies. It is a, it’s a game that’s been out for a while, a console, it’s been on consoles. I guess it’s been on PC’s as well. But essentially it is a first-person shooter game where you are, um, your motion determines the speed at which time moves. So if you get, if you stand still, you’re not moving, time stands still. And in every level, there’s an array of like weapons in front of you that are all kinds of different things, things you can throw or things you can shoot. And there are these completely red dudes. Mmmhmm. Almost look like they’re made out of red glass, who are coming at you and shooting things at you. Okay. They’re trying to kill you. And multiple ones coming at you. And you have to stop them, but they’ll shoot like a bullet at you and it’s coming at you and you can see it coming. You can stop. You can see where it’s going. And you can move out of the way, but you gotta make sure you don’t move into another bullet or whatever. So if you freeze, the bullet freezes. Everything freezes. Time moves as fast as you do. Now, So it’s kinda like the matrix. You’re going to experience it in a second. Just be forewarned. Like when the, when time would slow down and he would like do a back bend and the bullets would fly over him. Exactly, same thing. Okay. So I’m playing this game in my living room, and basically it gives you the opportunity to mark off a playing space. And we like moved the, I moved the Coffee table? Coffee table out of the way. I made a giant, like a 10 by 12 space, which is pretty big for VR. Okay. And Right next to a pool? No, I was inside. Good. And so then I’m playing this game and I’m just having, I’m having that feeling that I haven’t had since 1987. Oh yeah? I’m like this changes things, man. Were you cry, were you tearin’ up? No, I probably looked like an idiot. I was in my underwear in my living room with a headset on, dodging invisible bullets. Now, no shirt? Are you talkin’ like under t-shirt? No shirt, man. I don’t sleep with a shirt on. Boxers? Yeah. Or briefs? Not briefs, boxers. Okay, boxer briefs? Possibly? Why do you care? Because this is disturbing to me and I wanna make sure I’ve got it right. ‘Cause if there’s an opportunity for me to be less disturbed, okay, there was a shirt and wear boxers, I feel better. So I play and then I do a couple other things. I also got a game called You’re dodging bullets like Matrix, like you’re doing a back thing. Well, you don’t, I’m not hurting. I’m not gonna hurt myself. You’re doing Tai Chi basically. You’re slow motion. That would be a, we’ll see how it looks in a second. I’ll do it first to demonstrate and then let you get in on it. I also did something called, there’s a, not a game, but an app called Wander. Okay. And this basically is every single thing that has been mapped with Google maps on the, like Google street view basically in the entire world you have access to it, and you can enter into it. So you can say go to my old address in Fuquay where I used to live and you’ll be at, you’ll be on the street at your old house. And you can see full 360 view, ’cause that’s the, ’cause the 360 camera captured all this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can also go to like amazing locations that they’ve mapped around the world. I went to the freakin’ island that we were, the Fiji, when we went to Castaway Island in Fiji. Oh, yeah? And it’s voice activated. You say, “Go to Castaway Island, Fiji.” And all of a sudden, you’re on the freakin’ beach at the resort that we stayed at. What? You could go to the Trail of 100 Giants. Probably walk it. I don’t know, some people have mapped this stuff and it’s like user generated, like I think it, you probably have to have some sort of special application or whatever but you can go to a remote location and then send it into the system. I don’t know how. It’s a crowd-sourced kind of thing. Anyway, that was super cool. But I, I’d still done all this Did you knock on the door? You can’t do that yet. And so I did all this and I’m doing this by myself. I haven’t, my kids haven’t even done this yet. ‘Cause I’m like dad’s gonna figure this stuff out for you guys. Which is code for this is my toy. And you’ll never get it. Yeah, and I also did say that. I was like this is going in my room ’cause I want it to be cared for and you can use it at my discretion. Oh yeah. Also I don’t want the kids to like get addicted because, case en pointe, so I put the thing onLocke and the only thing, so there’s a first, it’s called first steps. And it’s basically an orientation to how everything works. And so you’ve got these controllers, you know, that have a few functions on them, like there’s a grip and there’s a trigger and there’s this thing. Mmhmm. Basically they replicate pointing and gripping and all kinds of hand motions with this simple controller. And in the orientation, you’re in this room. Now, just first of all, just when the room and the world is sort of generated around you, and then like this like desk comes up in front of you and there’s all these things on it and you pick these things up and it’s showing you how to interact with things by telling you what buttons to press. And there’s like a rocket thing that you pull a string and then it flies away and then you’re actually, there’s a drone like inside the orientation and you’re controlling it with a fake controller that you’re holding but you’re holding a controller in VR controlling a thing but you’re just using. So, it’s pretty mind blowing. So the best way to introduce somebody to it, which I’m gonna skip past that for you because it takes too long. You’ve also been in VR before. Is to use this program, this first steps. Yeah. So I put the headset online. It’s kinda like brain mapping. Yeah, you’re adjusting to how you’re going to interact with this world. So I put the thing onLocke. He’s going through and he’s doing these little experiments. And then he’s standing there in the middle of the living room and he says, “Dad.” ‘Cause you feel like you have to talk louder because the people are outside of the world, you know. Dad, this Are you there? Dad, this is the best thing that has ever happened to me. Really? And I felt like, that made me a proud dad. I sent my son into VR and he realized that that’s where all his dreams come true. Oh, gosh. He literally felt like it was the best thing that ever happened to him. Well, to me that’s what reminded me of that Nintendo moment. I was like this is his Nintendo moment. Because he’s a kid that, he’s a kid in 2019 in L.A. in a family that can afford to get him stuff like an X box. Mmhmm. This kid, you can’t blow his mind. You can’t blow his mind. He’s a cynical teenager. It blew his mind. It blew his mind. Now if he took this thing to 100 Giants, and dropped it in a hole. And found it. And found it. That would be even better. We might have to arrange that. If he begins to take it for granted, I’ll definitely do that. Same thing with Shepherd. Shepherd was, had this incredible time playing this thing. So what I’ll do. It is mind blowing. And you never get a second chance to have that feeling, that VR virginity. Right, which you’re technically not a virgin. Right, right. It’s like you, you’ve experimented a little bit. But, you know, you didn’t know what you were doing. You were young. Right, right. I do need practice. You’re gonna get the real thing. So what I’m gonna do, is I’m going to set up, I’m going to get into Superhot. You’re gonna, then I’m gonna stand up and I’m gonna do just a little bit and then I’m gonna get out of it. You’re gonna have to come over here because I’ve got the guardian kind of set on this side. All right, but maybe, maybe there’s still, you know, there’s still some, pardon the euphemism, there’s a little cherry to pop. I don’t know. Maybe this is still gonna be a formative experience. Okay, yeah, I’ll avoid that language. Okay. So are you, are you gonna be whispering? Or yelling? Change guardian. Wait, I’m gonna put the, I wanna make sure the mic is still near you, but you got to speak up. It, it captures better than you think. Okay, uh, okay. Now of course none of us can see what’s happening. So. Yeah, so you can get, I’m gonna stand up. What are you doing? Loosening everything, gettin’ stretched out. Okay. You just waggling your hips a little bit. Now that I’ve completely beat this game, I can go into any, there’s all these discs and I can put ’em in different computers to access different levels. Okay. Oh, there’s a frickin’ light there, man. I have to reach up here and grab this. You coulda bust a light. You’ve lost total, total contact with the real world, man. This is not healthy. You’re not really having to move that much. Yeah, well, it gets very, it gets a lot more complicated as it gets into the game. You gotta start doing squats, And now Warrior poses and stuff. Okay, here’s what I’m gonna do, Link. I’m gonna give this to you. This is gonna be great. There is a black ball in front of you when you’re gonna have this on and you’re gonna reach down and you’re gonna grab that and that will start the action, okay? Okay. Now you’re not gonna be mad at me are ya? Yeah. Okay. So stand exactly where I was standing. I’m gonna leave my glasses on. Gosh, get it over my glasses. Oh, yeah, there’s a I’m in a white room. Okay here you go. Here’s the left hand. That’s left hand, yep. And right hand. I got floaty hands. I’ll move back over here. And then, okay. Wup. Be still. Be still, you see those guys? Oh yeah. He’s comin’ at me. So this dude up here shot me. Do you have a gun? No I have a hand. Pick up a gun. Oh he hit me in the shoulder and I died. This is what I look like in my living room. All right, so then. It’s riveting. Oh yeah, boom, boom. Oh buck shot. What, what did I just knock over? It’s the microphone. God, oh. Glad you got camo on. I just, I just threw, I just threw the gun at a guy. And it killed him, right? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You don’t have to say boom. All right I’m frozen. Nobody’s movin’. Whoom. I killed that guy. The sound effect’s really good. Oh, I just dodged a bullet. I grabbed a gun and I shot him. And he just died. He’s grabbing his gun. Oh, he shot me. Okay, all right. Okay. We can do this more later. All right, oh. My glasses. Put the controllers down. Oh, ah, My heart rate is freakin’ through the roof, man. Um, the one thing I gotta say is it’s just a white room of red guys. There’s not a lot of graphics happenin’. Like Turbo Graphic 16 blows it out of the water. I’ll show you. Whoo. Even just the beginning. My whole body was tense. You can justify this as a workout. Oh, easy. Like my core was engaged. Well. I felt like I was in a squatting position for most of the time. And I learned how to kill people. So like I’m like. They’re not really people. I’m comfortable killing. It’s like robots. Red robots. Um, okay. Whoo. So that was, that was just a little taste. Now one of the things that happened to me after playing that game was. Whew, gotta stretch. It changed the way I was moving. I was literally eating cereal for breakfast. You talkin’ about the real world now. Yeah, I was eating cereal for breakfast and I found myself getting ready to take a bite and then stopping taking a bite and looking around and seeing if any red men were coming after me. And I was like. And then I would eat the cereal. I was, I thought I could, I can make everyone else slow down by stopping. It’s kinda like. So the way that your brain adapts ’cause you’re, the whole deal is that your brain. Everything in your brain is telling you that you This is how this is how the world are there. This is now the world. This is your world and so you could train. There’s so many different applications for it. I’m sure people are already doing this. But in the way that just a couple of sessions of playing that game, I changed my actual interaction in the real world. If there was something that I was struggling with, you could definitely train somebody to address some kind of problem in that. Like a surgeon or an EMT simulator. Would you buy like a super realistic EMT simulator? Because it, you know. I’m sure there probably is such a thing. You don’t wanna roll up on an accident and then be totally paralyzed, you know. And they, when my mom was EMT certified, I was in middle school and I’d stroll through the room where they were getting their training and they’d be showin’ some graphic images. Right. Of nasty. Well, okay, so But this is a step further. You’re right that the graphics that you saw, this ois one of the most simple, simple graphic games that there is now. There’s other games that are much more vivid and lots of different colors and you know. It’s cool game play though. One of the things I also did with this was, because I heard the guy talking about it. He was like you know, not everybody has great home theater but this can basically replicate a home theater. So there’s actually, I’ve got Netflix on here. So you are in, I gotta show it to you, man. You just wanna put it on and see what Netflix looks like? Yeah, yeah I wanna see Netflix. I also wanna eat cereal in VR if that’s when you were referring to that earlier I got excited. But I totally know what you’re talking about as you’re getting ready, that your brain starts to think things in the real world work that way, like there’s many times when I’m looking at like a brochure or something with fine print, and I will find myself reaching down to then zoom in on it. You know like, oh let me make that bigger. And at least the thought will cross my mind and then I’ll realize oh no this is, can’t happen. Come sit down in my living room. Talk about disappointment. You can’t zoom in on a brochure. So you’re telling me Welcome to my living room, Link. Now this is a, oh wow. Okay, so. Look around. Look outside. Oh, dude, you’re living in a ski lodge. Hey, yeah, it’s snowing out. Vaulted ceilings. You got a big chandelier. And then look at Netflix. That is freakin’ huge screen. Look at the size of my television. That’s the biggest, dude you didn’t tell me you had such a big television. And I love how your mantelpiece has the word Netflix burned in it. Yeah, not a sponsor. What ass hat would burn the word Netflix into his mantelpiece in his ski lodge home? That’s nice art. Yeah, you like my art? Yeah you got a loft up there. Yeah. Walk around. That’s me. That’s my body. I’m on a couch. You’re sitting on a couch. No I’m actually sitting behind the couch. When I look down, it’s the back. Yeah, we can work that out later. Okay. And then, so, is the screen here, but then it’s just the rest of the, I’m just in a lodge. I mean it’s like. Yeah, but where would you be if you were watching Netflix? Where would you actually be? Well, when I’m watching shows, I tend to just watch the show. I don’t look around my room. Yeah, don’t look around. Just watch the show. Here take it off. Before you’re in you’re gone. All right. I was trying to pick up the. Take it off. I don’t wanna take it off. Take it off. I wanna be in your life. Get outta my life. I’m watchin’ the screen saver in Netflix. And it’s pretty awesome. Get outta my lodge, okay. So I. I don’t think that’s. No, no, okay. Something that you would wanna keep doing. Not in 2019. Not now. Now I will say that I watched, watched that show Mindhunter. Okay. Oh, gosh. I almost fell. Uh, I watched a full episode of that in a. See you can’t even sit in a chair in the real world any more. Inside that. And I gotta say that they’re, this is where the resolution becomes frustrating because if were to take the headset off and watch on my television or on my phone, the resolution would be significantly higher. Uh-huh. But that’s just a matter of time before they get that straightened out. But I do have, I do have a few critiques, Oculus people if you’re watching. Um, it’s too heavy. Because it’s a standalone thing, well first of all, All of the weight is in front of your eyes. There’s potentially this is a good thing because it Seems like they could put weight on top of your head. Well, yeah, so it feels like it might limit your, there’s a two hour battery life which is not a lot for somthin’, but you can just plug it in. It’s got a pretty long cable so you can kinda stay tethered if you want to have it be powered as you’re playing. If you’re doing that, you might as well plug it into a PC. Right, but then you’re it’s defeating the whole purpose of the thing. But also the Rift has a lot less weight because you’re not using all the computing power is offloaded to an actual computer where this is basically like having a cell phone in your face, you know. So I feel like they could have offloaded some of the weight to like a different place. Like you’re saying, like if it was a little, I don’t know, I’m sure that I’m not telling ya anything you didn’t try probably. But fix it for ’em. Some battery or the CPU power was offloaded to another spot on your head to make it a more even thing, like it was a little bit more helmet-y. I think the playability and the comfort-ability, if that’s a word, would have gone up. Probably be safer if it was a helmet, too. But, I, so I feel like, listen, again. We sound like a couple of old guys talking about something that’s been around for a long time because that is exactly what’s happening right now. Um, but, I think that it’s just hit me what this is going to turn into. You know, I’m obviously. What’s the future? I read and watched “Ready Player One” so everybody knows that there’s, what that whole dystopian future looks like and people are living their lives in VR. You definitely begin to understand how, when they work out the ergonomics of this thing, and they get the physicality right. Mmhmm. And they continue to enhance the haptic quality of this, it gets to a place where you could definitely get lost in this world. Now one of the things I didn’t show you is that this thing, the way that this thing works, is there’s four cameras in it, see. That’s, I was wondering if those were cameras. So, so when you’re just walking around with this thing, it replicates your world. I mean I could just walk around with this thing on. Really? But it’s in black and white kind of grainy representation of the world. So I could sit here and see you and everything is exactly where it needs to be based on these four cameras. Yeah. So, the moment that they get to a place where you don’t look like an ass hat wearing this thing. I don’t know when that’ gonna happen. But if they’re able I mean they might as well just go all the way and put a crack in the middle of it. So, again, I believe that this is necessarily going to require some offloading of the CPU and the battery power somewhere else. We’re not gonna get to a place, unless technology changes significantly, where battery power and CPU power capable of creating the types of graphic experiences that would replicate actual reality can be housed in a very small space the size of glasses. I mean, maybe eventually, but there’s limitations to computing that are like that have to do with physics. You can’t just keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller. They’re already getting close to reaching end of Moore’s law, which is how small they can make a processor. So given that there’s some limitations that they’re gonna run up on, we’re probably gonna get to a place where you’re offloading the CPU and the battery power into some other part of your body, where it’s like on your shoulders or your back. Or in your mouth. Or just, yeah, just like a Snickers bar. I don’t know why you’d put it in your mouth. Like a mouth guard. Um, but the other thing that’s happening, in fact just today when I was looking up some stuff about the latest in VR technology, there’s a company that had is developed this second skin that is like it’s gonna represent a true touch-like experience where they can make a, they’ll be able to soon make a glove out the second skin that some Swiss company or somebody developed where when you touch something, it will give you feedback that feels exactly like touch, sort of like the haptic love dream that we’ve always had. Now, So when I grab that black ball. You’ll feel it. Or firearm, yeah, you can use the haptic response. Well and a thing that they’ve actually already rolled out. They haven’t rolled it out for everyone on the Quest, but they just introduced it recently, but they’re rolling it out next year, is hand tracking, so you can set the controllers down and you can play games with just your hands and it’s using the four cameras to track your hands. Apparently, that’s coming. Wow. So you combine really awesome hand tracking with really awesome haptics. You get the situation so that you basically all you need on your face is the visual interface. That’s all you need. So if we could get to a place where it kind of looks like sunglasses. Mmhmm. And then you got other stuff Tony Stark it. On your back or whatever. At that point, You can operate on people. You’re getting to a place where switching between AR and VR becomes this just like effortless thing, so the AR, the augmented reality, where you’re gonna be able to be given information about everything that you’re seeing, to have your experience enhanced. RoboCop. That just feels like, I mean that’s already happening some places. People use their phones or whatever, but that’s gonna be something that everyone who has one of these contraptions will have and then the moment you start kind of getting annoyed with the real world, you’ll voice activate to go into VR and you’ll be, and it’ll be so comfortable that you will literally be able to get lost in it ’cause you won’t be stopping to think about, oh, my face hurts, which is what happens with this thing. Ah, I gotta adjust the, it’s on the back of my head. When that goes away and you’re not worried about battery power. You can do this for long periods of time. It’s gonna change society very significantly. Everywhere you go will be like a tourist attraction ’cause there’ll be a filter that’ll turn off all the ads, which will inevitably be on everything. Oh, this microphone. You can buy it now and it’ll be delivered tonight and here’s the specs on it. And this table, well you can buy a table just like this from Target, you know. You block all of that stuff. And then you turn on fun facts and augmented. Yeah. Talking heads. What was the name of that show? Where they introduced that pop-up TV thing. Uh. The very first show to do that where it’s like if you watch, oh watching something like VH1. I think it’s called. Pop-up Video. Pop-up video. Pop-up video, pop-up life. Which is the way that video games work, currently, where there’s like a user name above somebody’s head and details about them. We will get to a place where that’s happening with people that you’re just interacting with. And then, I don’t know, it’s just the potential, I’m not saying anything that a thousand science fiction books haven’t already written about, But now you’ve experience it. Because I have understood it personally and experienced it, it hit me like whoa, okay. This could be problematic for society. Like this is something that we’re going to have to address. I mean just think about it. Like you know, we’re already, we’re already in. Some societies are moving to a place where like kids are you know like teenagers and young adults are not, they’re not dating. They’re not having sex. You’ve got populations where they’re not replacing themselves. And of course we’ve got a population issue but ultimately you want, well you want our species to be active in replacing itself. Right. And what this is going to do, is when the haptics get good enough, if you know what I mean, you’re not going to need a partner for sexual gratification. That is something that is going to be happening in these headsets. And that is going to change society significantly and it’s something that we need to be thinking about. Well, yeah, you just made me think about it. I’m pretty distracted. I’m just saying, that’s gonna happen, man. The way that experiences can be replicated and the second skin and all this stuff that’s coming. Coming is probably not the best word to use. That’s on it’s way. Well I mean every technology has been exploited for either is pornography and military, right? Pornography in military, explain. Well, I’m just sayin’ that you got, that’s how, that’s how things have developed. You talk about, just. Oh, oh. Think about space travel. These technologies will be exploited. Exploited first because that’s where, that’s where either the money is, like all this money funneled into military is how like, okay, VR is gonna be advanced because for militaristic purposes and then it’s Yes. Gonna be co-opted for pornographic purposes. Right. But then it’s gonna make its way into mainstream society. I completely agree with you. What I’m specifically saying is that, and the way that phones and cell phone use has already contributed to people being kind of isolated in one sense. Very connected, but also lonely and isolated. Unhappy. The moment you can replicate the most intimate human experiences with technology, is the moment in which those human intimate experiences will be replaced with technology. And so that’s all I’m saying. Then there’ll be a movement of. There’ll be a, there’ll be a retro realness movement where it’s like, you know, the silver lining is it’s an opportunity to draw into sharp focus what really matters. You know, just to have a great experience, be that pleasurable or a learning experience or um, just something unforgettable, like an amazing hike through VR or something like that. There’s gonna be an entire movement of yes but we’ve forgotten, you can be made to feel really good, but there’s something you can’t match the reward of vulnerability with another person Yeah, but. And the dance of that. But we’ll be making those arguments towards young people who don’t wanna hear ’em. And but the other Who don’t. But the other Tell it to my, tell it to my relational bot. The other purpose is to To be vulnerable to me. The other alarming thing that I think this represents is that because the experiences by design, by design are to your liking, right? Yeah. They’re designed to be You’re the center of the universe. Catered to you? That is not how life works. That’s the, that is the summing up of the danger, right there. So if you You become the center of the universe. If you are constantly in this world in which everything is catered to you and so when you have your experiences in this, however intimate those experiences might be. You’ll never leave it. Everything is exactly the way that you want it. The person’s behaving exactly the way that you want, doing exactly what you want. Your wish is my command. You are basically a slave is what would be in here. Now you’re trying to take that experience and map it onto an actual interaction with another human that has its own interests and does not care about your interests the way that you do. We have to think about this, from a, and I, listen, I’m just a guy who makes internet videos. But, and I’m sure people are already talking about this, but it’s just hit me. Don’t sell yourself short. You’re also an impulse buyer. Just having worn this thing and owned it for like a month, the potential it’s like I’ve got this very scary thing. Now, thankfully. And you’re hooking it up to your children. Well you know what to speak to that. Interestingly, and I think I just got lucky with this. So our kids are Locke is just busy. He’s busy with school and basketball. He hasn’t asked me to play on this thing. Probably like once in the past month after his initial interaction. And Shepherd has asked me a few more times, because he’s younger. He’s got more time. He uses screens more often. But because I’ve kinda got it in the room, and I’ve got it kind of sealed away, they can’t just go get it whenever they want to. The amount of actual time that they spend in this is very minimal. What about you, though? I got, you know. You’re too busy? I had that weekend. And it was kind of a special weekend because we didn’t have anything else going on. I wasn’t there. And then. I was in the great outdoors. A few weeks have passed since that point and I’d say. You’re over it. I’m not over it. Every time I get in it, I’m like, man this is so cool. I gotta get more games and I’ve gotten a couple of more games, but I am, there’s like a cool puzzle game which reminded me of the escape room. It’s basically you’re in an escape room situation but you’re in awesome, you’re like in an abandoned like nuclear facility and you’re walking all around and you’re like, you’re playing with things and trying to unlock codes and stuff. Very similar to like an escape room in Florida, but better because you’re In your underwear. In your underwear. But I actually, but no, thankfully I don’t have an addictive personality when it comes to stuff like this and I don’t think my kids do so but it’s just hitting me that if I wasn’t so busy, if I didn’t have so many other things to distract me, you could just sit in this thing all day. Mmhmm. It’s gonna happen. It’s probably already happening. Can I borrow it? Uh, you can rent it. You can lease it. I gotta pay this thing off. Is this your wreck, baby, wreck, baby one two three four, check, baby, check, baby, wreck it. You know I have another wreck, but I’m gonna go, I’ll save that for later. Yes, this is my wreck. Oh you can wreck it. If you want to After all that danger. Again, this is not a sponsor. Uh, we haven’t, maybe we’ll work that out in the future. How much this thing cost? Uh, I got the, there’s 399, 399 for everything that you need. It’s console-ish price range. Uh, and I gotta say for somebody who’s not an aficionado, but who’s just kind of like a little bit familiar with it, it was the doorway for me, man. It was, it’s the gateway into VR. I highly recommend it. And yeah, it’s the wreck. Get you one of these things. Get lost in the world. See the potential for the doom of the human species. It cost me 400 dollars less to gain access to the Trail of a Hundred Giants. Yeah but you can’t just be at home getting ready to go to bed and think, hmm, I’d like to go to Idaho. I can. Idaho, huh? I can go to Idaho. Hashtag Ear Biscuits. I can go to any state you want. Let us know how alarmed you are. We’ll talk at ya next week. To watch more Ear Biscuits, click on the playlist on the right. To the watch the previous episodes of Ear Biscuits, click on the playlist to the left. And don’t forget to click on the circular icon to subscribe. If you prefer to listen to this podcast, it’s available on all your favorite podcast platforms. 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