[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m Rhett and I’m link joining us today at the round table of dim lighting our AUSA’s ourselves that’s right just the two of us yeah this is a very very special your biscuits this is don’t know if we gave you much warning but this is the season two ear biscuits finale grand finale we I’m excited about this conversation don’t know how long it’s gonna go I think a lot of things are gonna surface here amongst us and for you there’s it so there’s a there’s an interesting take on this thing but yeah we before we get into uh say yeah we’re taking a break from ear biscuits in order to focus on some other creative endeavors and trust me it’s gonna be worth it oh yes we we have every intention to develop more entertaining things for not only your ears but your eyes and your eyes and your ears together and your souls so you know with good mythical morning continue to to roll along we needed to create a buffer creative buffer to focus on perhaps some narrative content why say that link I said so enjoy this grand finale of season two of your biscuits hang in with us now that this the concept for this ear biscuit was not not only not our idea but but it was a surprise was that it was happening this was a Stevie this a child as far as I can tell this was Stevie’s idea to have previous guests of ear biscuits come on and grill us with some questions because we’ve been asking a lot of questions to a lot of people over the past two seasons of ear biscuits so you heard it right here this is going to be all questions from previous ear biscuits guests for us and I have the audio recordings of their questions so it’s as if they’re they walk into the room sit down at the round table of dim lighting ask their question and then politely excuse themselves while while we answer the question and the just to clarify we do not have all of these people here silently waiting to ask the question that would it be weird it’s very difficult to get that many people into the same place at the same time I mean sometimes they do it for like those weird like promos you know like for the WB and they’re like back in like 1993 they’d like to have like Steve Harvey and some other people all together in one place like in the commercial break that’s not the kind of thing that’s happening tonight it’s going to be recordings yeah and I’ve got them here on my computer so I’ll just play them and we can listen to them then we can answer the question are you ready to get started it’s like we’re being grilled here and you know it basically everyone who submitted an audio question we’re gonna answer you know it’s we’re gonna give them a turn um but yeah I guess we should get started here so let’s start with why wait I hope you can hear me okay I’m in a strip mall in kamon Iowa this is nice Peter and I’d like to know honestly how much time each of you spend on your beautiful hair on an average day okay okay bye okay that’s nice Peter plus a good one get started yeah epic Rap Battles of History on on tour in the Des Moines Iowa I guess so this is the question he wanted he wanted to ask us how much how much time do you spend on your beautiful hair on an average day well I will start by saying that we did do a whole sponsored series about how I could style my hair in seconds that’s true that is not actually how I do it I mean I don’t do it in seconds but I do believe it takes minutes that it it is definitely minutes I I’m gonna give my honest assessment is get out of the shower so I start with the wet hair I put some product in I blow dry while the product is in and then I reapply more product you so it’ll be kind of dry you blow dry your hair I have to because if I don’t it I’ll look like my hair is wet we’ve given the product that I put in my hair I don’t recall ever in all the years we shared a hotel room you get the blowing the blow drying of my hair is a last 24 to 36 months phenomenon and you can see a definitive difference in the way my hair looked like we were shooting commercial Kings like I was actually we were watching an old clip today like it was kind of like wet looking all the time yeah my hair isn’t wet looking anymore because of that but the total time honestly you have to check a bit of pride at the door when you pull out it blowed oh yeah in fact my wife and I just moved into a new place and we have a bathroom that actually has drawers this is in two sinks the first time we’ve ever had two sinks in there you’ve arrived there is a drawer in between the two sinks that sort of equi distant from each sink and I put the hairdryer in there because I was like baby we both use it equally oh you don’t have a Rhett dryer and again be talking about getting one out because hers is purple with a purse you mean our our hair dryer is purple I need like a black hair dryer with like silver trim anyway superheat it like it needs to hurt you when it blow dries your hair so you like feel manly but you know I just sear your forehead well I check my pride at the door but my hair you you all know that I I don’t enjoy having this hair it’s I’m kind of a victim of my hair at this point but total time seven minutes okay for me it’s 90 seconds but I’m thinking maybe I should blow-dry cuz my hair looks wet all the time and there’s no way it takes 90 I’ve seen you get on your forehead and the hair that’s on the forehead I’ve seen you wiggle that hair around for 90 seconds there’s no way that the whole process takes 90 seconds I’ll time it after this nice piece thanks for my I’m a great estimator of time I say seven minutes a day gosh alright so I no more than two and a half minutes it’s wet I dry it with a towel I spray the spray on it and then I fix it with my hands okay and that’s it and I think silently to myself about how I’m glad I’m not using a blow-dryer and how awesome then well maybe you should hide you just write your towel dry your hair that’s what you do tell ya why I do that but then I blow dry let’s let’s take another question now I guys these they get they get deeper we do that stuff but I just thought that was a fun one to start with here is a second one hey rhettandlink this is colleen ballinger and i have a question for you I was wondering what your most embarrassing moment is I need to know we’ve talked about our embarrassing moments well that’s the difficult thing with having been on the internet for so long and told so many personal stories that we’ve answered this question on good mythical morning in an episode each called links most embarrassing moment that was yours and then mine is called rets most embarrassing well it was actually good morning chillin yeah good morning Sheila can clean GMM it’s funny because I watched it back to make sure I that I still think is my most embarrassing moment and I haven’t topped it since telling that story so yeah you know I’ll recap the same one do you yeah do you have a newer embarrassing moment story or you know well okay well just recap mine is also not as embarrassing as yours so let me start with know yeah I mean mine which I will tell the truncated version of right now is when we were on vacation a not vacation we’re traveling and our families were in Kentucky together and we had our kids at the time I think we had two total kids between the two families so we were all in one van that we were renting we took a break went into a gas station I went to the bathroom then I came back out and started to get into the van you were driving the van at a time and you had locked the door so I began to pull on the door and thinking that you’re playing a prank on me and won’t let me get in the door or didn’t realize that I was trying to get in the door I said open the door can’t really see into the car because it was tinted windows and it was there was kind of a reflection and I said open the door and I started to yell because I was I wasn’t in the mood to play around or to joke around at the time as I’m getting louder and louder and yelling open the door now I look through a window and finally the person on the other side of that window in the passage on the driver’s side across the car comes into focus and it is a woman with her children and she sees this large man but demanding to get into her car and the look on her face was I am going to die today and that was when I realized wrong van same color same model wrong van perfect stranger your van that you were actually driving that I was supposed to be riding him was just like two vans down I don’t really I wish I would actual van been able to look over and see that happen I don’t remember that I must have been looking the other way or something oh man that was pretty embarrassing but there wasn’t like a debrief conversation with the woman like roll you wet it down roll your window down so I could tell you know I didn’t find why I was gelling at you didn’t follow up didn’t follow up I didn’t follow up with what happened with my either in college there was a summer where me and Matt Newkirk got into working out and if you really get into working out in college you work out and then we would actually swim in the pool as like as part of like a cool down and then we would you’d go into the locker room you take a shower yeah and you know we’re you know we’re adults here this is college you know let’s not be too sheepish here you just get buck naked and you take a shower right this is not a big deal don’t worry buddy does it everybody does it but I wasn’t that comfortable with it so the moment I got out of shower I was like putting a towel around and everything and like walking back over to where the lockers were so I could put my clothes back on and I had this system where I would strategically at the last second take the towel off bend over put on my underwear and put on my shorts really quick because I just didn’t like being naked with all these guys walking around in the locker room I just wasn’t comfortable doing that yeah normal but so I was doing my system and this isn’t good morning chillin and when we when we came up with the phrase the moment of nay kidness must be minimized right because of my system well I drop my towel and as I bend over to get my underwear and put them on I feel the sensation of my butt cheeks being pressed against something I was like there’s no wall here behind me and then I start to realize that it’s like a cold clammy thing that I’m pushing up against like a whale and then I turned often but tirana look and there is a large shirtless man sitting on a bench right behind me and I have planted my butt cheeks square into the dudes back like smush – man professor nono was a professor yeah and it was just it was one of those horrifying embarrassing moments where time slows down to a crawl and you know it took it just felt like it took a minute to like pry my butt cheeks off of this guy’s it probably didn’t back and did you speak to him I was looking and then he turned and our eyes met and then I just we rise met right after your butt in his back man yeah I’ve whipped my head back around really quick pulled up my underwear pulled up my pants gathered on myself and ran around the corner to the other lockers and like you ran away coward yeah just an embarrassment I’m the right thing put on all my clothes and then as I walk out I like see the guy yeah like you gave him a nod I’m not it and that was me um nice to get to know you that was that was so embarrassing I mean but he had the grace not to say anything or not to get up he wasn’t public embarrassment which is what neither one of those quite those experiences were really big public embarrassment so I’m grateful for that all right there’s there’s actually a second half to Coleen’s question here let’s play that you know it’s me Miranda and I have a really good quaint Jean for you I was wondering who is your favorite youtuber and you better see me or else I’ll be willing to dolls and was also wondering what is your favorite kind of jeans I just wanted to know because I’m trying out new different kinds of gym since I’m a new juice connoisseur that wasn’t us that burped I just want to clarify that was as marina that was Miranda who burped and then breathed it on the other side of it who’s your favorite youtuber okay Miranda Isles I’ll say Oh easily you’re my favorite youtuber I would say besides Miranda in an effort to not alienate any any actual youtubers I carry friends only I’m gonna say I’m gonna go with a channel that I believe is my favorite channel okay and that’s bad lip reading you’re gonna say that I only have to agree it’s it I never am disappointed in a video on that channel you know I it’s so much work I know that they can’t do they can only do so many but there’s very few YouTube channels that I’m just like is there there’s a new video there I am guaranteed without fail to be entertained at a at the highest level I don’t have Lippert I don’t put off watching it I was like I haven’t watched any to Twilight stuff and I was like it almost made me want to watch the Twilight movies after watching it’s better to just watch the bad lip products so yeah I’m gonna go with that what about juice well my favorite kind of juice I don’t know if this counts but we’ve got this refrigerator in our office that like a secret for our own fridge in our office and we have stocked that thing with some kombucha this is a this is very Southern California I’m just gonna go ahead and admit that yeah we’ve got some kombu to in there that’s like a firm minute tea but there’s a specific type of kombucha that has chia seeds this is like double-double Southern California so just you know excuse that but it it’s chock full of chia seeds Chia juice man I not juicing the Chia I mean it’s juice as chia kombucha which is not technically a juice but it is in the juice family and it is my favorite juice and I love that stuff I love it too if you look at secret fridge that’s the only thing in there well there’s some of that yerba mate a stuff that’s good too nice Peter actually introduced us to that on the set of ER B but the the kombucha was something our wives got us into and then I discovered the Chia because I was putting the Chia in the smoothies and then I realized there was the Chia inside of the kombucha and now we only do Chia kombucha exclusively and Chia gets like it has that snotty casual sadness like it’s great love that fifty percent of your daily and your daily requirement of fiber in a drink in a G’s well you know I need that I wonder what Miranda’s favorite jeans what she’s asking us what she needs to be drinking that’s it all right let’s tee up Grace’s question here the only double guess so far on your biscuits hello Britain link this is grace and how big the first here is my question for you guys I think one of the hardest but most beneficial things that we can do as human beings is reflect on times that we’ve felt like failures I would be very curious to know at what time or times in each of your lives you felt like a failure and why and how that has maybe helped shape the people that you are or giving you some sort of perspective so on and so forth okay that’s it yep that yep yep yeah that’s it that’s it okay okay bye right bye oh she’s so she’s uh she’s going for the jugular well I mean she’s getting a little more personal a little more personal failures failures hmm you want to go on we’ve never failed no I think it’s uh I think the difficulty is thinking about which thing to talk about because that we’ve there’s a lot of things that we that we’ve done individually and collectively that haven’t turned out the way that we would have liked them to I I think there was a definitive moment that comes to my mind with commercial Kings the TV show that we had on IFC when it wasn’t renewed so they ordered ten episodes and we made all of them it wasn’t like all I nation where it was like we were hired to host some show and then it was like cancelled the show wasn’t cancelled but so it wasn’t really a failure in that sense but then they had to make a decision to renew it or not and so everything was focused on one particular decision and an answer like a yes or a no this is coming back and it actually took a long time after season one ended they kind of they didn’t make a decision they kind of strung it out there for months for months but then there was a point where the answer finally was no you know it was was that an email or a phone call I think it was strung out so far that it actually just turned out to be an email I honestly can’t remember the specific moment but I think whether it was an email phone I think there was a time in which we were like well if it was gonna get renewed we would already know well that’s what we told ourselves but I mean I think it that was a different because there was a definitive answer and it came it did feel like a failure I mean now well it definitely feel like a failure because it was like okay you know it’s interesting we’ve never we’ve never told anybody this but you know I don’t know if you were we were together at the time I’m pretty sure what was it what was it joke Pinhas wedding that raywilliamjohnson was at where was it that this is the first time we ever met raywilliamjohnson back in the day and he came out to us and we just moved out here to make commercial Kings and he was basically said like we’re all we’re all counting on you to for this thing to be a success like you guys are gonna be the first people to show that I remember the new tubers can cross over or whatever you know it was the first interaction I ever had with a guy but you know but so there was this sense of alright this has got to work because people are watching and just because we’re mean that’s added pressure but I mean there’s just the fact that hey we’re dropping everything we’re moving to another coast this is what we’re doing this is gonna be our life right now and we’re dragging our families out here and we’re making it well not dragging them but we’re moving our families out here we’re making this thing he came willingly and it it’s um when it when there’s that point of the answer’s no yeah it felt like a failure and now in retrospect certainly I mean after that is when we in the after matter that we had to figure out what we’re gonna do we started good mythical morning I mean I’m very very thankful that it happened the way that it happened but I don’t want to gloss over the fact that there was that there was more than a moment where it yeah it just felt like well that that was a big thing we put everything into that it didn’t work now what are we gonna do and we the answer was we’re gonna rebuild our YouTube channel and we’re but by the way we’re also gonna write a TV pilot we’re gonna start having meetings for television something that we never talked about because it never amounted to anything yeah I’m not calling that a failure but you should it didn’t that didn’t work out either but it’s that it’s it’s those conversations that you have to have when you have to tell everybody you have to tell your friends you have to tell your fans you have to tell your audience you have to tell your family members you have to tell your mom yeah the show they didn’t order it again and so I developed this speech that I would say and you know what there’s still times that I say it now I say it all the time I mean so you know what I’m what I’m about to say what’s this what’s the speech well I I mean the explanation right well I well I’m just saying the fact that the show got cancelled it’s always how I explain why we live out here because people are like what brought you to LA and I’m like well I make Internet videos and then one of the things I was doing on the internet got turned into a television show I got cancelled after one season but you know but now I’m doing the internet thing full time and it’s great so it’s like and there’s actually a failure built into the story of why I live here and I’ll even throw in things and early on it was there more it was kind of like taking the edge off the fact that it didn’t work which was all true which was well you know IFC was they were trying to figure out if they wanted to do they wanted to get in a more narrative and our show wasn’t here they said it was good we were very proud of it it was great experience but they wanted to do other things on their channel so they made the decision not to order more of them you know so it you kind of give the explanation take the edge off it wasn’t us it was them but the fact but the fact is is that you know this many years later looking at it I think we both know how we would do things differently and I’m not saying it would have by any means guaranteed that the show would have continued and I think we’re all on the same page that ultimately it’s been great that it wasn’t we didn’t get picked up we here we wouldn’t be here right now without it so to graces question how has that experience shaped us as people do you think I mean I I think I go into everything that we do with a with the with an overwhelming sense there’s absolutely no guarantee that it’s going to be a success but more and more with every year that passes with a I’m compelled to trust us before we trust anybody else’s voice you know because I think that a lot of the things that we would change about commercial Kings are things that we we just sit and feel confident enough to to say or to implement you know even though we probably had that had the ability to as executive producers of the show I don’t think it would’ve like Rijn made it have a second I don’t think it would have made it have a second season but it there’s just this like you know what there’s no guarantees that anything is going to work and the best chance that you can give it is by trusting yourself and doing everything you can to execute your vision so I kind of approach every single thing that we do and I also approach everything with a if this doesn’t work I’ve learned that it’s always a step to something else so I can’t get too torn up if something doesn’t work yeah because we moved on to things which I’m so thankful that they’re better for us and we’re enjoying ourselves and it’s almost happened every sing every single time yeah with online nation and with you know there’s there’s lots of time every failure has opened the door to something that we’ve actually wanted more than the thing that we were trying to succeed at I mean I think on a much more microscopic scale I’m sure you’d agree with this I don’t maybe making this overdramatic but just in terms of feeling like a failure it’s easy to feel like a failure as a father or a husband sometimes I think that those are the things that happen I’m a perfect father more often because you got when you have kids you’d you know it’s uh it’s it’s a demanding thing to have to have patience and I don’t have a lot of that for younger human beings and like I gotta apologize a good amount to my children which i think is a healthy thing you know I think they that’s my spin at least hey as long as you I’m sorry I’m sorry sorry father but I don’t I don’t want to just dive too deep into into all the failures we should just move on okay yeah unless you want to talk about some more failures now let’s move on to a question from mamrie Hart good question grace here we go with the main town my first question is being a fellow North Carolinian sometimes I think how easy it would be to go back to North Carolina and be able to make youtube videos from there what you guys could do so what is it that keeps you in Los Angeles rather than doing what y’all do back in the Tar Heel State yes I did say Tar Heel I know you guys did not go to Carolina and my second question is something I always asked people which is what’s the first inanimate object you ever dry hump here haha she always asks people that she’s never asked me that I can believe that she sounds like she’s on a phonograph like that when we’re playing a record or like when Southland you know we were able to first translate human sounds into instruments you know like one of those big horn 78 or whatever that like a record player with a big horn on it okay I think it’s called a phonograph I don’t know maybe I’m just making things up do we think about going back to North Carolina and in doing this we could do this from North Carolina it seems like that’s what she thinks sometimes so I think there’s there’s number of parts of this I think number one a number one we love Los Angeles so there’s a lot of people who hate Los Angeles I recognize that and they’re like homesick I think something about our personalities wanting to kind of be in the middle of things we haven’t grown tired of Los Angeles yet mm-hmm so we like it here so that that’s just kind of to start off with well and I don’t mean to say anything about the weather which is hackneyed but I will say that I’ve never used that word since I’m learning it in vocabulary I don’t even see me great and I probably misused I thought it was like when something’s wrong with your knee I’m at need but it’s it’s 74 degrees outside right now like 9:30 at night and it’s probably that cool in here and because we’re not outside and I’m wearing a t-shirt a hoodie a jacket and a hat and I thought about putting a hoodie over my head I mean yeah yeah but that we’ve changed that being said you know I just went back to North Carolina and visited family and it was great and I’m I miss all of them and it’s tough to be away from family and friends back home but I love being here I just love being in a place where them so many people are trying to do it there they’re doing artistic stuff or they’re related in this business in some way you never have to explain and you know I it’s not that people who are trying to do interesting and artistic stuff are not elsewhere are not in North Carolina no there’s a lot of people doing interesting artistic stuff in North Carolina yeah but there’s something about a place like New York City or a place like Los Angeles where people who are treating as high and as far as they possibly can in the arts migrated to these places not exclusively but most or at least many of them do kind of migrate to these areas and what that ends up creating is just a really interesting community of people that not only can you interact with just on a personal level but I think I’m gonna take issue with what she said I think it would be easy to go back and make the videos that were doing in north night I don’t think it would be easy because you know what Stevie is from North Carolina and what did she do she moved to Los Angeles and we hired her when she was out here in Los Angeles yeah as an example everyone on your team you know I’m I love our team and everybody that works with us and it would have been a lot more difficult to to gather these people together back in in Lillington you know or even fuqua right I need that’s just that’s just exactly matters the nature of things now when we shot the opening to commercial Kings in the middle of the street in downtown Fuquay Varina a block from where our studio was like literally in the center turn lane while people were driving on either side of the road we had a tripod and like a jib set up for that shot you can’t do that out here without spending a lot of money and getting a lot of cops to show up and signing a lot of papers and then spending even more money as we were you remember this when we were shooting that we looked over there cops did show up we didn’t ask any permission and then we walk over to the cop Fuquay cop who shows up it was like okay we got to apologize and plead our case before we could get because we’re in the turn lane basically yes before that not on a median in the road yeah for for 20 minutes oh yeah trying to get the shot we wanted without permission so we go over to him and we’re like preparing our statement and before we can get in a word in edgewise he says hey guys my son’s a big fan how long you guys gonna be here like he wanted his son to come out and meet us which is great and then there was like a county commissioner who town the town Commissioner Commissioner he rolled down the window he’s like hey hey guys I’m the town commissioner anything you guys need just let me know so there’s that you know let’s ignore the fact that you’re creating a traffic hazard at the moment so that you know you there’s something about home there’s something about North Carolina there’s something about the South that you can’t recreate out here I acknowledge that you know there’s a lot of different elements about the people that we grew up with and the place we grew up that you you can’t recreate out here in Los Angeles but you know I spent over 30 years there so did you and it’s not okay well this is a new season and I’m not saying that we’re gonna eventually get tired of smog and traffic and shallow people but I do think that at least for the indefinite future we’re in a place where we feel like we’re able to do what we do to the best of our ability because of where we’re at yeah and I will say a mattress oh yeah second part of the question I’ll say a stuffed Shamu from SeaWorld here’s another question hey guys this is Josh Sundquist my question is a lot of times people talk about how having kids changes everything and I’m wondering if when you look at your videos now versus before having kids if you see any difference in the content that you produce very calming voice feel like he’s leading me in a mindful meditation as he asked as he asked the question which which he does on his channel right so you can check those out if you want some guided mindful meditation from Josh Sundquist which we didn’t talk with him about on the air biscuit so that’s a little shoutout having kids changes everything well that’s true but specifically would quite with a question of you know our videos now versus before having kids we had kids before we started making videos I mean before we started making videos as we do now yeah under specially on YouTube yeah I mean the first breakout video as many of you probably know is when we did put my stroller where your son Locke and my daughter Lily were in the double stroller that we pimped out and turn into like something kind of like the Batmobile with ground effects in spinners I mean we have made a few videos and you know in college we knowledge we have made some videos but none that like translated and broke out on YouTube wants YouTube became a thing and we were writing more funny songs much more than we were making videos so that doesn’t really I think it’s more about since there is no before-and-after there’s really a this is the situation we have children they watch our videos how does that make it differs in the content we produce mm-hmm I would say that we have not yet made a video I’m not saying that like we’re about to make something different but we haven’t made a video that I don’t let my kids watch yeah and we think about that a lot like I think about my kids watching our videos and I want them to be able to watch our videos I mean we certainly have friends in the industry who their kids can’t see the stuff that they make because it’s you know it’s comedy for an older audience or whatever well and you know everybody has a different standard too because I would say that you know a couple of times a year we’ll release something you know whether it’s an episode of good mythical morning or whether it’s a certain guest we might have on good mythical morning or whether it’s a music video that it takes things in a certain direction where people who have a different standard for what they allow their kids to watch will complain this usually happens on Facebook it seems that the most vocal crowd when it comes to this particular standards they think our video should be up to kind of find their voice on Facebook and for every person who has said I can’t believe that you guys did that or said that I’m not gonna let my kids watch anymore I’ve always honestly thought well I’ll let my kids watch it I mean I wouldn’t have made it if I wouldn’t let my kids watch it right so and there’s an upcoming sketch that we’re gonna release them on our Channel the camping sketch is there’s like implied nudity well from me and it’s like I’m gonna let my kids watch that but they’re gonna use I mean implied nudity means that we know that you’re naked but you don’t see that you’re naked I mean I mean I’m technically naked there’s implied nudity under my underwear right now I mean any nakedness that is in the video is covered up so therefore it’s the same as having pants on right well if the pants were a blur Tobler what’s the difference between jeans and blur really if you think about it well that’s is this is a conversation I’m gonna be having with my kids when the video comes out but I will say cuz because they’re gonna watch it and they’re gonna be a little embarrassed but they’re gonna laugh they’re gonna think it’s ridiculous and it’s fine yeah and me I mean I’m not again I’m not you know we’re obviously the majority the stuff that we create is family-friendly regardless of what your standard is but there are people who are super sensitive about a lot of things and we’re not here to please those people and we’re gonna disappoint those people from time to time and that’s just that’s just part of the deal I do want but but we do it there is a standard of I want my kids to watch what I do right but our kids are getting old they’re getting older so what if when our kids are like 18 is it gonna get r-rated at that point yeah I don’t know no it’s not I doubt it but we’re not making stuff for preschoolers no we’re not it’s not there have been people who’ve thought that it’s not for kids but kids can watch it that’s what we always say however your biscuits in particular is definitely not for kids and when there’s an episode that we think is definitely not for kids we let people know so I think it depends on the the property speaking of kids my kids don’t listen to your biscuits that’s we’re not that’s what I’m saying yeah but the only air biscuit that any of my kids listen to stanwyk it was snappy cat who submitted a question for us here oh that’s a great segue hello rhett and Link this is stamping and my question is because you create most of your content as a partnership what is the best and worst thing about making videos with someone else compared to making them by yourself hmm that voice is absolutely amazing there’s absolutely no reason to doubt why he has has made himself famous it’s that voice if you could talk like that we’d be we’d be twice better off twice as big hmm so what’s the best and worst thing about making content together versus making it by yourself I mean so we’ll answer that and you know I’ll start by saying we’ve met we’ve never made anything apart really I mean you made a cup you you made a couple of videos for Jessie like there YouTube you’re going there we don’t have to talk about that was I’d actually don’t even know what you’re talking about I think you made a video for Jessie it is like I didn’t help you make it it was like an anniversary video I don’t know if it was just a picture mine oh yeah I mean I know and I’ve written I’ve written some songs and stuff I wrote her a song back in the early marriage when I was really romantic were you blowing your hair blow-dry are you trying to go r-rated already just because I’m just because I mentioned were you but I was not blow-drying my hair in the video or in the song that I wrote Wow okay but the only thing but all of our creative endeavors have been done together it’s like the only thing that we the only thing that we’ve ever done kind of on our own is just the jobs that we that we did before we had creative jobs okay but I haven’t answered to the best worst thing about content I think the best thing in the worst thing are the same thing and that is you have to take somebody else’s opinion into account I mean it’s plain aside you have to get buy-in on anything creative from you if I’m pitching and vice versa we both have to be on board can be one of the most frustrating things if you have an idea that you think is incredible or you have a perspective on something that you’re like no this is gonna work and it’s just like if you would just let me do it but then the best part of that is because you want it to be easy you just want to pitch your idea or I want to pitch my idea and then just there not to be any resistance so it’s frustrating and it’s not even actually resistance it’s part of the process but you the problem is when you interpret it as resistance and it is frustrating but what we have found is although it can be a frustrating process it does almost always lead to a better product because two minds are better than one it’s a refining lesson you can get too many cooks in the kitchen without a doubt but we’re basically the the you know when it comes to the core ideas you can finish this sentence if I worked alone blank well this is kind of get this kind of gets into almost like an accountability thing which is yeah if I worked alone I would probably have taken some sick days a lot of sick days like when I work for the engineering firm that I worked for back in the day if I woke up with a slightest sore throat you were out it I called in sick I was like this isn’t worth it this job is not fun I feel bad I’m going to stay home and watch The Price is Right and eat some chicken noodle soup because that’s my prerogative but I haven’t seen the prices right since we’ve started this business because Drew Carey hosts I heard about that he’s lost a lot of weight he looks very different not funny anymore I haven’t watched um but the thing is just to keep the accountability intact is there’s no sick days like I honestly cannot remember a sick day we’ve taken some days off for family we’ve taken some days off for vacation I cannot remember not coming to work in the past nine years since this business started well it’s interesting because I was sick and I have been sick a lot I come to work because I know you’re gonna be there and if I don’t come to work I have to come be like we gotta get we gotta work we I’m not gonna be like I want to go and like do crafts today we’ve mutually committed to stuff but still if there’s any time that we we do everything absolutely equal I mean if we if you get X amount of dollars I get X amount of dollars if you well that’s what you think if you if you take if you’re taking this amount of vacation I’m taking this on vacation if I got to do this well you know it’s funny because sometimes if it’s like hey man I need my computer’s busted I need a new one it’s like we have this conversation today I’m like my computer’s not working well I I think it’s a justified purchased to get a new one but I’m mentioning this to you because I know that you’re gonna die gift that means you get one too and you I need you to be a little excited about it and of course you’re gonna be excited because anything that you can get you’re gonna get excited about but it’s the other way if you were to ask me there’s a chance I may be like nah let’s wait man well you know any of your kind of getting into some of those issues that I think that Hank Green’s question oh yeah okay raises – so let’s say let’s the we’re kind of getting into that so let’s let let’s play hi this is Hank green of Hank and John Green of the vlogbrothers I wanted to ask rhettandlink a question hi guys hi there’s something super powerful about two people leading a creative project together you see this a lot though it’s usually sibling siblings that are doing it but you guys are pretty close to siblings often closer than siblings I’d say and also I think it requires a really deep level of trust and understanding to do this kind of thing together and that is difficult to get outside of actual family relationships but I’m interested in building that with other people in my life who aren’t in my family so what do you think it is about this kind of relationship that increases the odds of success and how have you guys cultivated that trust and understanding in your creative and personal and professional relationship that’s my question bye guys good question well you know the first part of that question of like you know what about that kind of relationship increases the odds of success I think we kind of got into that which is this – two minds are better than one especially when they work together well and that kind of thing but this thing about trust which is you know this is something and not being siblings I think is you know where he’s coming from yeah well and I would say for all intents and purposes we are and maybe even we always describe ourselves as an old married couple it’s probably a better description than two brothers because we made the decision to be friends and we have met continue to make the decision to continue to be friends and be business partners and but the trust thing is you know thankfully and I and I think this is a key Trust is something that we’ve never had to work on we don’t have to work on our trust the trust is not something that is in jeopardy and never has been in jeopardy and I think that is just a result of the time and a track record knowing each other since we were kids and we never violated each other’s trust that now we’ve pissed each other off again we’re gonna get into talking about that later but we’ve never violated each other’s trust yeah I mean Trust is not something that you can enjoy near you know it’s it’s interesting that Hank said he’s interested in cultivating relationships of trust and collaboration that don’t involve being someone’s being siblings now I ain’t you know he’s you know he’s married and I’m sure he gets the vibe of commitment and you know earning trust so I’m not telling him anything he doesn’t already know in that sense but that mean that’s what our experience is is that it’s something that we just we earned over time of not you know just not doing something to just really undermine our French and that’s why I get the computer when you get the computer I mean that you know that’s it’s because I’m never even though I could you know I have access to the to the corporate checking account to the same degree that you do I could be going to the ATM and pulling out cash and you would never look at it we don’t you know but we know that that’s not going to happen and that’s I mean I couldn’t we couldn’t do what we do if a trust was something that was in the balance right and IIIi think a good example is the the principle of adopting the language of we when we’re saying anything outwardly we made a decision there was actually I can’t we may have talked about this in your biscuit at one point but we made a decision at some point where we actually said that we are going to not take personal credit for things instead we are going to refer to even if there’s something that very specifically was just one person because we divide up more and more creatively all the time and we know certain things that one of us is doing and the other ones not having much of a hand in it we have a creative hand in everything that we do we both touch everything but if you’re doing 90% of something like a whole bunch of the writing on something well we still make a decision that when we when we talk about that outwardly it’s a we we terminology we made this when we did this when we created this when we wrote this I know I think that’s just a decision to protect just to protect against competition and credit or an ego to protect against ego exactly right that it’s and and to say hey you know this is our agreement this is an extension of trust that we you know there’s something more important than one of us getting credit are getting more accolades than the other person and that’s us creating what we want to see in a vision well because I think I’m together I mean how many times have you heard about creative partnerships or what people would describe as a creative partnership and it turns out that the parties in that partnership one of them or both of them consider themselves to be the key or to be or no I was I wasn’t want to started this and and then I brought you along or you know and those partnerships always end right and like the Linda McCartney example if you look at the credits on any of every single one of their songs Linda McCartney Linda McCartney I mean they didn’t all right all of the songs and you know but then they broke out right or was it that Linden got shot I mean they broke up yeah they broke up but I’m talking as the Beatles but yeah we could still break up but then that would be a new agreement did is bust the analogy basically said well no as the Beatles but they went to India and things got weird maybe we just got let’s just not only don’t go to India but as the Beatles and I could be a little wrong about this but every song whether one of them wrote it or the other one wrote it it’s credited to both of them Lin and slash McCartney and they’re in they’re both still alive and both still best friends to this day that’s what that it would be a perfect analogy if that was the case so just let’s just believe trade that’s the case imagine a world where John Lennon is still living in his Paul McCartney’s best friend well then what about all those wings songs that are pretty awesome you’ve missed my imagine Joe I know I got it oh you didn’t even laugh at it yeah I mean you didn’t appreciate it at all okay so Hank I hope that helps did we give Hank his uh his due well I think that I think the application is if you wanted to build this kind of trust with other people then it’s just gonna be it’s a time it’s time you know it just it’s a it’s an investment and there are some choices you can make and there was this quick commitment I mean even the blood oath that we took in I mean when was that you know it it depends on when we’re telling it when it was really nice cause II at this point I think it was early high school but we made a blood oath and it was yeah it was a it was a ridiculous thing a mother was very broad but it was very broad but it was the fact that we did that and then we talked about it was it we were very commitment-oriented you know it was and then when we moved out here at you know I mentioned earlier about writing a TV pilot and when you talk to agents and stuff like that they’re asking you questions like well what is it you want to you guys want to do do you want to have a network television show let’s see if we can make something happen do you guys want and they would all ask the question do you guys want to go out on audition separately and we made a decision we had we actually had to talk about it again just to kind of renew that vow so to speak that no we’re gonna beat it it’s it’s too complicated we’re gonna be in everything well yeah I don’t do oh I don’t think there was never a serious consideration that we would do things individually no no no there never was but when people would ask we would have to we would have to tell them you know and we would have to take a stand it’s like no I don’t want I don’t want to see any opportunities that’s not something for us as a comedic duo that’s one of us individually you’re not to mention I mean the you know I’m not saying that you know when we’re 70 years old if you’re if you’re like I really want to open up a wood shop or something like that I don’t know if that’s you kind of want to do that then I’m gonna be like I’m not you know well don’t do that without me but there’s so many things that we want to do as a duo that we’ve yet to do the that any any personal creative projects that we that we want to do I think they’re going to be after we’ve done everything that we wanted to do together in it and there may never be anything else so but I can see that there’s a time when there be something we’re like I got this little side project you got this little side project kind of thing but not until we do those things that we’ve got a list you know it’s not it’s it’s it’s a it’s a pretty long list of those things that we’ve always said that we want to do and we’re pre we haven’t made a lot of progress into that list and we are yeah it’s I think that the the things that we want to do in the way that I’ll just make a prediction here and I’ll it’s funny because I’ve I thought about this like you know back in middle school being sick like thinking about The Fresh Prince in DJ Jazzy Jeff okay this is gonna get a little like geeky my kids are watching that show right now you know we were like super into their music and then Will Smith has this television show jazzy just shows up and he’s a horrible actor in The Fresh Prince of bel-air and then Will Smith becomes this amazing blockbuster actor yeah he’s an actor that’s right like Muhammad Ali and he was in that independence movie and then a lot of other stuff and I don’t know what he’s up to now there’s like Scientology going on and I’m just careful again yeah right but he’ll make a comeback but Jazzy Jeff just got into producing and his music and I don’t think that will happen to us because I don’t think we’re I don’t think I just don’t think we’re that much different we’re not as different as those two guys right yeah and plus there is this pattern that you have these big ideas then you convince to me how great it is and then I like double down on it and that’s and then so that’s kind of a pattern that will probably a path it works well so I think we’re pretty safe in saying that you know what about Outkast though I mean you know Big Boi and Andre I just think they’re more different than we are we want to break in here for a quick moment to mention this 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I think it’s Levine okay Hannah’s friends with Stevie so she got I guess she was still in a shout out there but I also think the thing that was at work there is Hannah is trying to create some sort of awkwardness in getting us to say sweet things about each other because that’s I think that’s her ploy here well I think I mean you know I think that maybe she’s just a curious cat but there’s an interesting thing and you were telling me that Jessie told you about this so maybe you should tell it about the awkwardness amongst guy friends – even men are not willing to acknowledge that they are friends with each other Yeah right but there’s like just there’s awkwardness in even saying we’re friends so for us – on a show in a dimly lit room just the two of us to be then doesn’t wanting I don’t like to think of it as just the two of us I like to think about the people who are also Lissa didn’t picture them being here to turn around and say our favorite things about each other at least she said our favorite things about working working on each other so it’s not like I love the way that your eyebrows dance when you speak well that’s not on my list about you but I’ve got I’ve got some things I think I might have a couple of things linked I think I might have more than one thing okay you’ll go first then but we’re not gonna make eye contact while you’re saying I would say and this may be a little I mean this may be me saying something that it because it benefits me and that’s why I like it you’re hedging alright as opposed to just being a good-hearted guy who’s just seeing something in someone okay is uh the it is very and I could I think I take it for granted having someone who when it comes down to a perspective on something like a perspective on a person that we meet for instance a person that we hang out with or a situation where we go into a room and we have a meeting with like five people me and you may differ on our approach to different things a lot but we almost always have the same exact read on six major situations and individual people so much so that it’s kind of like we already know what we’re thinking collectively we just have to talk to somebody else about it does that make sense having someone who I think like you know I’m saying I say I’m saying I take it for granted that one of the things that is is I think this goes back to us being able to work together you know and I’m saying I think like you and you think like me we’re very different but there’s just this whole large slice of the pie of life that we kind of silently and wordlessly kind of interpret in the same way that I kind of take it for granted until I like to start trying to have a conversation with somebody else so that’s one thing I’d say the second thing is one of the reasons why we work together so well which is I don’t like to finish things and I don’t like to get into the weeds on things and I have a tendency because you’ve kind of just done this to be like it’s like once we get into like a really complicated like edit or something like that I’m just like I’m just kind of guy I’m just gonna kind of go on autopilot now because I know that link is gonna worry about this tonight to to the nth degree and land it and so I mean if we were if we were the same in that way then it wouldn’t work so the fact that you take things and you know put your focus on them I just kind of step back I appreciate that yeah and I think mine well thank you for that right I appreciate that I appreciate that you appreciate that about me I I think mine kind of dovetails with that in terms of how we creatively compliment one another because I think my first thing that I like about working with you is that you’re an ideas driven mind like it’s all about big ideas and the next idea and a new idea like when we were driving home last night carpooling back to our homes and we’re just spitballing about kind of plot points in some in some narrative thing that would be cool to do you said you throughout it you threw out a specific idea and I was like that’s a good I thought that’s a good idea my question was did you just come up with that and you really yeah I was I was I look out the window and I saw that and then I thought about this and then I said this and it was just an idea and I was like that’s pretty amazing you know so I appreciate that that the pressure is a little bit off if I can say all right this is the structure of something and then if we only had that thing to fit into the structure like here’s a here’s a beautiful seat for a race car if there was like something that could just sit in that or I don’t you know it just kind of fits so it kind of takes the pressure off me because of in that particular sense so I appreciate that I I also think this is a little this is more personality maybe this kind of dovetails are kind of business stuff but I appreciate the fact and I mean I’m indeed in dangerous territory state saying this know from an ego perspective I don’t want to stroke your ego too much but I’ll just come out and say it and then I’ll backtrack a whole botch afternoons okay you’re you’re usually right about everything just gonna say all right okay like I’m gonna write that down you’re right about a lot of stuff like when in doubt he’s probably right about it and it’s not and I’m not really talking about like creative decisions where it’s like really subjective and it’s just like do you like this brush stroke or not it’s more like on that painting we did together I’m thinking I’m talking more along the lines of like facts and decisions and like if you actually have to think something through or to kind of like a have some sort of applied wisdom I’m I’m happy to defer or if like I don’t know I and like I would just defer to you and then I would be pretty confident you’re gonna say the right thing or or have the right opinion or enough of it then I can just make the last percentage points come together and make sense so I feel like that frees me up I feel like I’m freed up to be wrong about a lot of things there’s a lot of fun there’s a lot of fun in that and you even see that in good mythical morning or in good mythical more if you ever see a cut in good mythical more it’s because I get way too loose because I just feel like I can say anything I want I we can just fix it later somehow or you’ll just you’ll nip it in the bud kind of a thing so I enjoy that I enjoyed the freedom of its kind of like having a net so to speak Brett the net did Rhett the net did that make things awkward enough Hannah are you happy with that well we all seem to say what we appreciate about favorite part about working with Stevie and I think for me that’s pretty easy it’s the fact that she and I guess we needed to qualify whoo-hoo stevie is Stevie is our psychic advisor that’s right and no she’s uh what is she head of production what is development what is this girl and I mean it’s in she she’s a lot more than that too and that’s her title but she’s been very instrumental in the growth of our team in our in our business and I think that one of the one of the reasons why is because she cares you know and I think that’s my favorite thing about her is that she will lose sleep over something that isn’t right about something we’re doing yeah like it’s and that’s very difficult to get somebody’s if it’s her content right good way yeah because I know most people you know when I worked for Black & Veatch back in the day I didn’t care I didn’t know who black or Veatch were and I in and I didn’t care about them oh well sure it wasn’t black and Veitch and that’s black and beige it’s like a dish it was all the checks I read the checks a lot but I didn’t lose sleep when something wasn’t going right at work and and I realized that’s a difference a different scenario I was a big company but she cares and she it she really cares and she gets legitimately upset when there’s something that’s not right sometimes I call her at 3:00 a.m. to make sure she’s losing sleep about stuff and she’s not I’m like I’m making you right now lose sleep and that makes you feel better and we I mean and we’ve had to actually you know fire her a few times we’ve had to say you know like you know we we got to get you you know we got to get you some help on some of this stuff so you’d say you don’t because she has a tendency to just take on so many different things well I mean she supervises a team works we said is a great team we’re not gonna Brown no Stevie anymore or our team but I think that we’ve we’ve we’re very appreciative yes to her and to everybody’s everybody’s work alright so let’s move on to another question here Joe Bereta hey rhett and Link it’s me Joe Bereta the secret former third member of rhett and Link remember when you killed me by drowning me in the pond and the remote area of your north carolina property if I recall it was just a success was starting to rear its ugly head I’m pretty sure I saw dollar signs in your eyes as darkness assured me into my watery grave good times anyways we all know that you guys are best buds but I want you to regale us with the store Riis of when you were truly mad at one another what happened how did you handle it and how did you make up cool thanks guys I will be haunting your kin for an eternity okay yeah so uh all right it’s out we we murdered Joe Bereta he did and he’s back and he’s a ghost he’s now a ghost but he asked a good question about he wants to get us to dish the dirt on us fighting with each other and okay we’ve racked our brains about this I you know there’s over the years when there’s been different ways that we fought with each other I mean there’s when you’re kids we didn’t really fight much as kids you were just like no so I’m not coming to your sleepover and that didn’t even happen we did we didn’t even get into arguments as a kid no chance no it was but in in college we would by the time we were college age we would fight with each other we were like we were like roughhouse like in in high school but I don’t know why it happened in college it seems like more of a high school thing that we would like wrestle with each other well I think some explanation is is warranted here I mean we were watching MMA remember that I mean a lot that was a lot of it I recall we started watching MMA and then we would like wrestle with each other like with it we would have our dorm room door open and we would be like wrestling with a chick he would walk by and be like what are those guys doing and then sometimes Greg or somebody would come over and and they would join in yeah and you would buddy was like amateur wrestling yeah because like 1955 or something but there was like it was it was pent-up aggression and I think it was just hey you know it’s kind of like how a big brother punches his little brother we would just kind of fight with each other because we’re we’re in each other’s space so much you just start wrestling a little bit I mean I remember it differently than that I don’t remember it being this ain’t like we would just be like arguing and then it would turn into wrestling no no it wouldn’t I think it was a subconscious thing yeah you just thought it was fun but you would also I’m dead move witches you know you Wade it’s how much more than me sixty pounds more than me easily and then you would we be wrestling and it would you know it might start was like a little arm wrestle but then by the end you would be laying on me full body you better I’m dead and you just go that’s a movement that’s the MMA moves dead move I couldn’t get out from underneath the weight of like you’re six seven frame and you were skinny God but so was I and it was but and that would just it would be fun up in at that point but then when you would start be like I’m dead and I couldn’t get out from underneath you and you would be a really man up rush me I was starting to get actually mad yeah we get me and you could tell I got mad because I would start a man I would start punching you I would do things that were like not a not part of the rulebook but not like punching me in the face I wouldn’t bother I thought you were just white you just playin I never knew your accent man but I would you couldn’t see the look on my face I was just part of a part of the character I was not going into it like I was not going into like a pro wrestling persona like the sulking guy with the red face who’s like angry that was not like Pro Wrestling I’m sorry that was me be mad we haven’t done that a long time I don’t think laver ever will but there is I do that of my kids now though I’m dead you still do that yeah and it get so mad I know they get mad but but but you were doing it at one time and I remember the door our dorm room door was open because it was you know it was just it’s just something happens but actually it was a little bit the dorm room room was cracked it looked like we might have meant for it to be closed but it was a little bit open and somebody walked by and like and we were just in boxer shorts yeah totally totally ridiculous the more I think about this and I’m like got you in this like hold and somebody walks by and it kind of like cracks the door open I remember freezing and I could sense the door was one it was it was grant grant and he was like okay and just kept walking slowly walked away yeah we didn’t realize until like a little bit later like oh that was yeah I don’t know what he thought about that you may have drawn some conclusions but but that I mean that I think that’s how we fall in college and then there’s like fighting over like did you take the trash out or did you steal my ice cream but I say these are the thing we’ve been really open about is the fact that we fight a lot I mean we argue a lot and it does get personal and it does get heated and I think that’s a part of any healthy friendship we don’t have to get into that we talked about that quite a bit in a number of podcasts in the past but but it’s more of a creative thing I think we kind of hit on if I’m gonna say anything about it it’s that there’s there’s comfort that comes from creative energies colliding in a way that makes good things but it does get frustrating when you think you’ve got it figured out and you encounter what feels like opposition which turns out to be a refining force now that we don’t get we don’t get mad at each other like when we go surfing together for instance like it’s usually when we’re like working well but hold on now that you mention that I remember you getting mad at me when we went surfing because I my level of hearing wasn’t to your standard like you would be like talking to me and I’d be like what and you’d be like I I’m not gonna yell there’s like other surfers I want you to hear I don’t want everyone else to hear I wasn’t mad I was frustrated yeah okay yeah and that was kind of like you’re like what and I’m like what I hear I can’t hear ya but I don’t want to like me I’ve had a conversation with you I don’t want it to be conversation with every surfer out here and so I’m the I’m the bad guy just because I can’t hit maybe you were talking quietly and you just don’t know it why am I the one that’s wrong or today was not wrong right or wrong wedding we’re walking to lunch and like we’re taught we’re having a conversation you know I said in the middle of the conversation you’re like slow down well I brought you walking well so this is that’s actually something I’ve been meaning to tell you for a lot love for a long time it’s like I you walk from point A to point B you walk so fast well I was hungry no no but no no no it’s what wit whenever wherever you never you never stroll you are a be lying you are right to the next thing and it’s just like my wife always complains about how I’m gonna walking too fast she’s like I’m in high heels and your legs are so long slow down so I always feel like I’m gonna really slow for my wife but whenever I’m walking with you I feel like I’m like gum it I’m going so fast but you should celebrate and my legs are so long that I’m having to take these large steps like why is he in such a hurry so likely word is having a conversation I was like slow down a second but you were but you were mad no I wasn’t mad I was I mean and then and that’s and that’s where the real conflict comes from when I’m like why are you mad I’m just walking and you’re like I’m not mad and I’m like what you sound mad it’s like I’m just talking I’m like well why you gotta sound so mad when you’re just talking and that’s said then we have an argument about how we’re having an argument like you know merica because you because you want me to say like could you could you please slow down a little bit you’re not gonna respond to that you’ve made it very clear over the past 35 years or Alvar long we’ve known each other that you will not respond to could you just slow down a little but we fight because again like I’m backtracking from my compliment earlier that it’s like backtracking you’re right about a lot of things yes I was walking fast but it’s like the line in the big lebowski and I’ve told you this before where the Big Lebowski tells Walter he’s like you’re not wrong Walter you’re just an you’re not you’re not it and I’ll go on record and say that but we fight because I will interpret what you’re saying as if you are an a-hole and I’ll say like why are you mad about me walking fast why is it why I’m and I think I said this day I’m like why is my speed the thing that’s wrong why can’t it be your speed that’s wrong in the way that you said it and so like I’ll start harping on like how you said something and then you’ll harp on the truth of what you said cuz I cuz I cuz and it’s like the conversation is missing each other that’s conflict because the first thing that comes to mind when you ask that question why is it that your speed is wrong and my speed is right is because and this is how my brain works I think because I feel like I have a barometer for my speed base my interactions with everyone else on the planet including my wife and so I think to myself I know that I walk faster than the average person so link definitely is walking too fast therefore I need to say something to him about it it’s funny that we when we were deciding what order we’re gonna answer these questions in we were like I don’t have we don’t have anything about fight and then we just came up with two of them because we know that we fight on a weekly we do it all the time and it doesn’t matter you know I think that’s the point is that we’re not actually like this seems pretty heated just for the record if any you’re concerned out there there’s absolutely I going tell you right now every thirteen to seventeen year old person listening right now is concerned and thinks that that was a big fight I’ve learned that I have learned that through YouTube comments but and you know what I’m thinking such a degree and and as we’ve been talking about this fight I’ve been thinking man we’re really onto something this is great like I love talking about this and I and I I just think I think it’s hilarious and sorry to generalize you thirteen to seventeen year olds most of you thought that was a fight and it’s not all of you and sorry to kill you back in the day joe bereta yeah but if you want to see as like the cusp or the beginning of an actual fight in a video like a for reals fight it that does exist what is the name of that video killing rets beard yeah it’s called killing rats beardless when Linc shaved my beard on episode of good mythical morning at the end the wheel lands on a black spot we had a secret spot at the time and if it landed on that spot we had to do something bad to each other and that was a surprise surprise and that one was slap each other and we slapped each other simultaneously and I thought that you slapped me too hard and so I immediately slapped you back but I had kind of a like it was kind of a like come on you’re like I was mad but I was still kind of I was still kind of smiling but as soon as I did that I don’t lie you were not you were smiling to cover up the fact that you were mad oh no I got no I was mad I was totally mad but I was in my mind I was thinking I’m gonna hit you again to like make it even but all that it was that just slapped me back and we hit each other pretty hard no punching and it immediately stops and goes then Ted and bang pound whatever how is it used to end back then back in the day there was no good mythical more but we sat there and argued with each other yelled at each other for a good five minutes after that while JC JC just said they’re like six feet away he Jason was stuck in a room with us for two years he was sat there for a lot of just you know a lot of arguments and that explains why he doesn’t work for us anymore by his own volition he’s you know he’s doing great things he’s doing but yeah well you can see the fire in our eyes and I but watching it back like wash it back today and I’m like you know what I love the comedic timing of that like you guys funny yeah could not have loved it could not have made it it was worth it we couldn’t have planned it more perfectly the way that it like the timing of it escalated so perfectly people thought they were really mad at each other because we were so that was a legit mad at each other Joe and we did reconcile we always do right along let’s get to a deep question this is shaycarl Butler recording a voice memo in his garage for the ear biscuits podcast download it for free on iTunes with rhett and Link alright so I have been asked to ask a question to the ask Meister’s themselves and I feel like this is supposed to be a semi serious question right question mark we’re not looking for pirates verse Dinges here am i correct right I assume so so here we go if he does or she or it or whatever it is out there that is bigger than us and that created us and hopefully loves us and cares for us if that thing exists and in the next 20 years there’s technology that also exists that makes it possible for us to transcend death as we know it to literally overcome the problem that our species has face for its entire existence we don’t die anymore because robots go into our bodies and our consciousness is that big word that is us inside our bodies is able to live forever inside these robots that we create can both of those things exist that end god and if so what does God think about that does he want us to put robots in our body or does he not want to that’s my question – rhett and Link alright thanks I’m Shay Carl follow me on Twitter it’s a Carl and then you can watch my fun family vlogs at youtube.com slash Shaytards okay guys looking forward to your answer bye bye you’re kidding me I love it who else can go from such an intricate question which seems like it was kind of like on top of his head still which is kind of crazy to like a just slo-mo self promo so quickly well it’s interesting that it sounds as if he asked that question from the gates of heaven yeah but I think it was his garage that he has the question I think he was onstage at the Mormon Tabernacle okay so you know this question we you know he called us the ask my skirt Meister’s I think the implication there is that we’ve asked a lot of difficult questions here at this table including Touche so Touche yeah we will we grilled him for two hours we will receive a difficult question from Shang yeah now it’s okay so Wow well this is there’s a long question it was there’s a lot to it but I think that okay so to summarize a question it the question is if we’re able to take human consciousness and put it onto or into a robot let’s just say into a hard drive you know to get it to leave the human body can that scenario and God exist at the same time and if so what does God think about that so it’s it’s basically like if that movie transcendence where Johnny Depp uploaded himself to a computer and then he like to the Internet if that were possible what would that what would that mean what would be the implications and what would what would God think about that um you know first of all as a movie it wasn’t the best employee ever it was I want you know and I watched that movie on the plane and it was the audio was real bad and I could hear a little bit of the movie that the person was watching next to me I was like a short in the headphones why does that always happen on a plane no that was that was Johnny Depp good I know but I’m not trying to dodge this question so let’s answer it interestingly this raises another question which is kind of what Shea’s getting at I think and that is let’s just say if we are able to take human consciousness and we are able to implant that on to a robot like a hard drive basically what yeah let’s say there’s a computer there’s a hard drive on a robot but let’s just say that we also have the technology to create a robot that physically looks like a person let’s just make this personal let’s say that we’re able to figure out how to get your consciousness onto a robot that looks exactly like you like it’s such a good recreation that I can’t even tell the difference physically between you and this this robot well first of all lucky robot second second thing is well I’m not dead yet so let’s just that’s kind of irrelevant in one sense I think no one no I’m just saying it I would feel I want I want I feel like that’s not me anymore but let’s say I am dead well but let me let me finish the let me finish the full scenario and let’s say that we get to a point technology wise that I am able to take or scientist whoever are able to take your consciousness in your brain and implant it onto that you that looks exactly like you mm-hmm so not only does it look like you but consciousness that you have in your brain goes into this and then I being your best friend for most of your life I’m able to interact with that second link your wife is able to interact with that second link and after spending a certain amount of time with second link I cannot tell a significant or I can’t tell any difference between link number 1 and link number 2 and your wife cannot tell any discernable difference between link number 1 and link number 2 I think so much so that you just start calling it link I could just call it link okay yes the implication would be that your consciousness everything that is you was something that was biological / electrical right it was completely contained in the material world and it was able to transfer over to another being another robot that would raise a lot of interesting questions that’s right big if but let’s say yes that happened well but let’s say that okay but the other scenario is we transfer that consciousness over to link number 2 and during my interactions with link number 2 I think to myself you know what he seems to have the right answers to some of my questions and he seems to remember some of the things that we did but he’s walking slower he seems soulless there seems to be something missing or if Christie were to say there seems to be something missing then maybe what that thing that is missing would be would be what people would call a spirit or soul but let’s just say for instance because he just because I think Shea’s the question is what if it did transfer perfectly could that scenario exist like Christie can’t tell the difference I can’t tell the difference it seems like the full link has transferred but I could tell a difference I feel like I would tell a difference like if I weren’t dead yet and be like don’t don’t interact with that link number two I’m over here man but that link number two would feel exactly the same way as link number 1 or link number two was like in a computer monitor and he wasn’t in the body yet he want to get out he would have it theoretically if there was a perfect transfer he mad if you want if there was a perfect transfer then he would have the I would be miss same sense of self that link number one had and what and what and what if he did and what if he did well well first I want to I feel I want to I feel a desire just say that that wouldn’t happen but I don’t believe that it’s possible I just I I’m just seen on animo even just an emotion love if I were just isolate my emotion or emotional reaction to that right now that I don’t I don’t want it to be true on emotionally you’re making it personal but I guess I made it personal what if it was your what if it was someone who didn’t know what if it was a stranger but I think if it’s a if this is just a person if it’s a perfect simulation is that just is that a not a statement about God or spirituality at all it’s just a statement about technology well if it I’ll tell you I mean if I don’t know if that it you know I mean who’s to say that we would even have the technology to even entertain this question although there are people like you know the futurists or reycarts well whatever his name is who basically says oh this is gonna happen in 2045 which presumably is within our lifetime I think that it would have implications right because if if that were to happen if you were able to take a whole of a person and put them on a hard drive then kind of what you’re saying is that if you can take a quote-unquote soul and put it on a hard drive then it probably can’t pass into another dimension it can’t go to heaven or whatever you know so I think it would have some implications in terms of what people think about the world but I don’t necessarily think that it would have implications about God in particular and it could to answer Shea’s question can God exists and that scenario exists at the same time I don’t see why not but it we definitely have some implications about the way we think about the spirit soul body that kind of thing you have to make some adjustments yeah yeah it’s interesting because I just don’t know how I would feel because I keep going about back to how I feel which is not the maybe not the operative question here but I so to put that aside for a second I I do think I know this I’d like for I’d like for somebody to pursue it like I’m not singing outlaw it is controversial I’m saying go for it scientist well because because what all we’re gonna do is learn I mean don’t as long as that doesn’t mean you’re gonna suck the life out you’re gonna kill somebody in order to throw them on a hard drive as long as you’re not doing that so he’s not hurting anybody I’m saying what are we afraid of with you you know what are we afraid of finding out let’s let’s see what we can find let’s see what happened well I would like to think that I am open-minded enough to have my worldview be adjusted by a discovery like that I mean I think anyone who would say that I’m not willing to to follow that result wherever it might lead is just saying I don’t want to hear something that’s contrary to what I already think so if somebody could also confirm what you already it could you know it could so what are you afraid of you know not you personally but don’t be afraid don’t be afraid that’s how I feel right all right I’m completely on the same page now do I do that I’m worried about myself being digitally cloned perfectly the point where I’m not special anymore that wigs me out but do it to somebody else and tell me tell me what happens I’m very curious about that so go for it I mean Jay I guess Shea’s doing this out in Idaho yeah I think his voice is why I moved back he’s freaking out there and Idaho’s gosh when he asked this question sounds massive is probably a massive yeah Ricky multiple Shaye’s right he’s growing other shades and he wants to know what God thinks about it don’t ask us ask God hey man that was that was that was fun though I’m I’m I feel like stupid and like I’m wigging out all of a sudden thanks for asking that question I hope that’s not how we make other people feel for your biscuits here’s another question this one this one goes really deep hey Rhett hey link it’s Harley from Epic Meal Time I sure as hell can’t be the only person that wants to know the answer to this question here it is have you ever seen each other’s penis when oh good why why not have you ever bathed together well he went for it I wrote that question for him yeah I’m sure you know I didn’t mean Harley is talking about comedic timing that was delivery well I just go ahead and say as you can probably already tell by the fact that this question was included we did not rule out any questions if you sent a question in the audio we let you ask it early asked about whether or not we had seen each other’s penis and what when why and why not the answer is yes let me just start by saying this and let me and let me qualify that answer by saying that if you’re if you’re best friends with somebody for as long as we’ve been best friends and you don’t at least accidentally see the other guy’s penis at least a dozen times then there’s probably something wrong so but it’s like a fleeting it’s like I’m just like it’s like a it’s like a frame of a movie I’ve probably seen your penis a dozen times but I’ve probably seen it for a total of definitely less than 12 seconds because I’ve never dwelt upon it I mean it’s been alike well there it is that was an act you know we’ve we’ve been in hot tubs with naked naked older men in the middle of the desert it like the hot springs out in Death Valley we’ve done that two years in a row we’ve been we’ve skinny dipped in the with our good friend Mike up in the top of a mountain and and and Southern California we the National Forest the water was cold and we laid out on hot rocks like reptiles for like 30 minutes and went to sleep we skinny dip only naked in high school we skinny dipped in the he feels he feels pond in the Cape Fear River yes I’ve seen your penis you’ve seen my peen there’s a whole group of people involved we don’t make a big deal about it it’s it’s just two guys that have happened to be naked at the same time a number of times but like I said I’ve never made an effort to see it now I will say that I have never seen your penis I’ve looked and I just totally true I’m gonna refrain from making for making jokes any comebacks at all I knew I was gonna say that like five minutes ago I was just waiting for you to shut up so I could say that stupid joke I remember specific instance though this is a middle school experience you know when when like everything’s awkward you probably don’t tell me if you remember this it was the first time that like you would go to the beach with your family every year but it was first time like you were invited me and like I went to the beach with you and your family and I what beach was Topsail you would go there every year and it was like those of those summer winds and when summer went yeah yeah mm ah summer winds condos and I remember one night like we you had a room it had two single beds and it’s I you know we were sitting on the edge of our single beds like getting ready to go to sleep and you know when you’re a middle school sight we’re gonna stay up and talking so we were just like sitting around hanging out in our boxers and a t-shirt just kind of like talking about middle school crap like I don’t know Ninja Turtles or who knows what and I I remember I was having a cut I was talking to you about I don’t know it could have been Ninja Turtles I don’t know it could have been injured Turtles and I remember at a certain point in conversation you were like that was like it was extremely embarrassing I remember I don’t know why it was I mean it was just the way it was I was I was like you know there’s not like a zipper on the boxers and it’s not a big deal or anything I was just looking out for you I mean I wasn’t I wasn’t embarrassed yeah it was just a weird thing but it’s like one of those things when you’re I don’t know 12 years old and I was like oh I wonder if he’s still gonna be my friend after well I had my junk hanging out of what boxers you know put it away and I kept telling my Ninja Turtles after I put my ninja turtle up you’re right but well you know the interesting thing this is actually my hero in a half-shell this is making me remember and I think a lot of guys do this in college we went through this phase like probably junior year where because we had the apartment with Tim and Greg and you kind of go through this phase where you’re just like if I need to go I don’t know what you’re about to say if I need to go from the shower to my bedroom I’m just gonna walk through the house naked and I don’t care which of my roommates sees me right we all four of us did that yeah and we just we just like we don’t care okay and there’s almost this certain sense of freedom and like adulthood that you kind of feel in that party over it’s like usually I remember how tame and I was in high school to be like oh I’m in the locker room I don’t want anybody to see me I’m really scared about this but then all of a sudden you start growing out of that you’re like oh I understand why all the professors in college are in the locker room naked cuz they don’t care look they’re over it yeah like when and when you put your butt cheeks on their back they don’t even flinch or get up or say anything or grunt know you kind of revel in that for a few years and so I mean again I would I never buy for any there was never any purposeful eye contact with their nether regions and I would assume that you you feel the same way yeah but I wouldn’t see that you were naked so it would be like penis and the periphery is sort of this sort of that probably probably a good way to describe it right yes which could be the name of our next album yeah or at least like a side band is that a pun side I don’t know well okay so Harley thanks for that question hopefully that said Oh have we ever bathed together no I don’t believe so we did just recently make a video where we play I played a guinea pig and link played a little girl we were baby together but it was green screen back yeah right we were fully clothed we have one last question this one is a secret question it says alright here it goes hey I’m Alex Oh Maddy hi I’m chase and I’m Kevin and we work for you guys literally every single day and we just had a quick question we’re wondering when we were gonna get paid okay guys well it’s gonna be a lot longer now now that you asked that question yeah well we’ll get back to you on that one okay well the pranksters trying to get in yeah that’s what happens when they have access to SD cards high quality the highest quality audio of recorded will probably recorded right here at the round table of dim lighting yeah we don’t we’re not paying them yeah yeah so so that’s it I you know this is this is fun I think we could do another round of this next time this is this is a tradition that can continue I just don’t want to convey the question is to get tougher and tougher so maybe it won’t continue well yeah we may have to start we may have to start leaving some out but we did make every effort to answer every question to the best of our ability thanks to everybody who – time to ask these questions and thanks for the time that you guys were guests here on your biscuits and listening to us ask you a question after question as we teamed up on you and the things thanks for taking the time and thanks for taking the time to listen to your biscuits if you know this is one of your first ones you just got in theirs I don’t know how many that’s a lot of episodes back your biscuit season 1 and season 2 we’ve had some incredible conversations with some incredible people I know that I have learned a lot even if you don’t think you want to listen to one based on the description now you got to go back and find ones and hey we were there and I think you’ll find new things about guests that you didn’t think you wanted to listen to so fill in the gap of us not having new ear biscuits for you for a while and try to keep us a part of your routine we do appreciate you being your mythical best tweeted us hashtag ear biscuits let us know what you thought of this conversation what stood out to you if there was anything that was helpful and feel free to tweet at all the way one of these individuals who asked us the question you know thanking them for their for their question for all your biscuits yeah thanks for being a loyal listener and for leaving a review on on iTunes U I’m there’s a part of me that doesn’t want to take a break because I enjoy the conversations that we have with the guests that we have here at the roundtable and you know it’s kind of a forced kind of a relational rejuvenation for us I feel like it’s a good thing for us to have these type of conversations you know where we’re we reminisce we process things a lot of people who are guests end up saying things at the end of our conversation or after we stopped recording that’s like yeah some people say well if it felt like therapy and that that’s that’s kind of funny but kind of true – I guess depending on some of the questions we asked but the thing that I enjoy people to say is when it’s like wow you know you helped me put things together and and get it gain a perspective on my own life or my own career people verbally processed things yeah so I appreciate the way that that’s something that a we get to share in that processing with people and experience that as they go back through it and if there were eight days in a week we would continue to do it yeah indefinitely but the other half is just when it’s the two of us there’s there’s kind of we experienced that too you know I think it’s it’s nice to think back and to process what’s why things work so well for us and what’s going on our friendship and creative collaboration and everything so yeah I’m in the break I’m gonna be glad to be focusing on these other creative endeavors but I’m gonna miss this until we get back into it so hang in there guys listen back through them and that’s all I got to say I’m thankful yes very very grateful to the ear biscuit ears I’m gonna go take a bath by myself okay please do that [Music] [Music]