this this this this is mythical what’s the best sparkling water the sport crew says they have the answer check out their ranking of the best Sparkling Waters on the market flavored or not I’m looking into my crystal ball and it says espresso Martini meatballs oh my crystal ball just has white goo inside Josh that’s a cadberry Cream Egg oh this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah I put in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich what Welcome to our podcast of hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates I’m your host Josh Sher and I’m your host Nicole and I and first and foremost I would like to disavow all fortune tellers as they do not represent my Christian beliefs um and they are practicing witchcraft technically so can I tell you something one time I went to a fortune teller in Burbank and I drive by that fortune teller office every single day and every single time I drive by I say inside of my heart I was I experienced witchcraft like I hope you know that I’m like I can’t believe I experienced witchcraft what did this fortune teller tell you well I was at that time I was working at a boutique marketing agency as a food stylist and they saw my Tapo shirt cuz I was wearing a Tapo shirt and they’re like you like food and I’m like yeah and they’re like you like to be creative with food I’m like yeah yeah and that’s it it was it was just a lie it was a lie it was $20 and it was a lie yeah I don’t believe in all that forms of skull duggery and whatnot what they do is it’s BS yeah I mean mediums fortune tellers um what they do is something called cold reading where they tend to be very good at taking context clues from people and then exploiting that for their own monetary gain the only fortune teller that I respect are the little slips of paper inside the PF Chang’s fortune cookies want to go to have CHS oh those are real that’s real that’s science that’s science it’s magnet technically it’s magnets fortune cookies are not magnets wait sorry you can’t eat magnets we’ll get to we’ll get to the podcast in a second one more aside when I lived with my Italian roommates back in college um they’re like well astrologia astrology is real and I was like sure man if you believe in anything H they’re like no it’s science I’m like what do you mean like uh well when you born the Stars okay you know what is magnetism I’m like yeah and they’re like well that’s why it’s science well I well I believe in astrology I do think the day you were born it affects who you are but to to the same degree that everybody born in a certain month yeah within their microcosm I think within their microcosm of their of their life yeah like you think I have a lot more in common with late April babies than I do with November bab simp based on your temperament yes I think it’s okay we’ll get to the podcast in a second let me keep going though uh there was was it out are you a t yeah yeah uh and everybody goes oh that makes so much sense but no they had my birthday wrong on I’ve said this before I’m going to say it again they had my birthday wrong on famous birthdays.com which really you know lowercase f on the famous there but they said April 15th which would make me an Aries and I’ve gotten so many DMS from people that are like just looked it up and of course you’re an Aries and then I’m like they have my birthday wrong cuz I’m not that famous I’m a tourist actually go that makes even more sense I got confirmation bias megie when’s your birthday it’s April 10th I am an Aries and I totally see that in you Josh you are an Aries you are so not an Aries you’re such a paladin is that compliment I don’t what’s I don’t know from the island ofad what we’re doing today is 2023 is wrapping up Nicole we’re looking no palad no pal is one L megie Paladin not two L’s a paladin is any of the 12 peers of char M’s Court of the count Palatine was the chief of course you have heroism and chivalry in you you’re such a paladin okay what what do you want to talk about today 2023 is wrapping up Nicole we saw a lot of food Trends come and go3 happy 2023 we did it another fantastic year of the podcast thank you for all the listeners and all the Watchers uh we love you to death and now we are going to effectively give you the knowledge to Insider trade in some food trends of 2024 you know cuz 2023 we saw a lot of Trends tined hot girl tinned fish loved the Tin Fish CES oh God I hated it I had canned oi I spent like that’s disgusting $20 on canned sea or genitals at a restaurant and it was awful I canned razor clams that ate like rubber bands oh yeah that doesn’t make sense I hate the Tin Fish thing it sucks well it’s because the Tin Fish you’re getting maybe is is like um not good no tinning tinning food was literally invented by napole bone apart so so his troops could travel across the Alps to try and Sack other European nations no nobody wanted tin food they had to do it I like when the cockal are in the tins and you can uh they have like a clear eat the fresh cockal I can’t get fresh cockal find them we can’t get fresh cockal get fresh cockles I cannot I’ve had fresh cockles I’ve never had a fresh [ ] dude bro I’ve had fresh blood cockal from uh Connie Seafood well you’re a lucky guy not everybody’s so lucky bright red yeah I like I I’m a big fan of the Tin Fish uh era but I will say I don’t get stuff that’s um as unique as the things you get I kind what kind of Tin Fish you like I’m I’m like a sardine I’m an anchovie like monk fish like I like I like small things I like like small normal things do you see the tinfish movement Nicole continuing well into 2024 um yeah because I think there’s going to be more hot girls in the world I think there’s going to be more hot girls and and I think they’re going to keep advancing the tinfish F technology there’s one 10 fish that I would really like to see which one angila angilas the little angilas from Spain the little eels baby baby eels it already exists it looks like a no but I’m saying like come into the states and I want to see a whole artisanal angilas movement I want to see can I had another what was it it was like Krill canned Krill Krill is Tiny yeah yeah tiny little pastes and tins cuz here’s the thing don’t like tinned fish love tinned pastes oh I a lot of canned pork Lipp or Pate like what do they call it deved ham deved ham exactly any sort of spreadable meat and I think well here’s a prediction for 2024 we’re out of Tin Fish we’re into tin spreadable Seafood I’m talking about we were blending lobster tomali right crab butter in a can I’m talking about angila so you can just Mash I’m talking about Krill well I will say that there’s been a trend on Tik Tok of of uh taking foods that are considered scrap and making it into something you know beautiful Scrappy cook yeah eating I think eating scrap foods and and you know making that more palatable and popular is a trend we we’ll probably see in 2024 100% I I though have a I don’t want to say vendetta that’s a pretty strong word but for this sort of zero waste cooking movement where everyone’s like I’m doing a good thing by using the tops of my leaks and it’s like you are sure and I I use all my vegetables because you know throw onion skins I’m cooking for we’re recording this during Thanksgiving deal with it that’s right um you know cooking for Thanksgiving I’m throwing the onion skins The Parsley stems that goes into a stock for the gravy do you really keep it not not on a dayto day not on a day to day but when I’m making something like Thanksgiving and I need stock you know but I just yeah who’s making their own stock all the time um but stock broth hot broth girls fair but like not throwing your onion skins is not even like shooting a BB gun at an oncoming tank is just like try toit on the tank to stop it you know what I mean it’s abely and so all these little scrap food movements on Tik Tok I think are very cute and resourceful and on an individual level if that is important to you for your own lifestyle that’s perfectly fine it’s not going to reverse global warming no no we expect that to happen I think some people do and it it bothers me people who are like remember used to get mad at me for drinking out of straws for no I didn’t get mad at you for drinking out of BS I got mad at you because we would go to restaurants and they would serve us water and you look the server in the face and you would just go I’d like a straw plastic no I’d say I don’t I would say please I I’m so sorry do you have any plastic straws please I would say like that formative you made a show of it it’s easier to drink out you looked at a server at rafy in Glendale and you said a demon I want a turtle to have this shoved up their nose and stuff you know you said that you said that Turles I love toles I like toles other other trends that we saw com and go um the the rise of disco cocktails is big in 2023 you know yeah that’s retro simple cocktails the estess martini none more than that yeah you know what I want to come back M the porn star Martini the porn tell them about the porn star Martini I’m going to it’s a modern classic right I’m going to Google it really quick the porn star Martini is a modern classic that was invented I’m going to guess early 2000s late 90s yeah it’s a 2000s cocktail yeah and it’s uh was it passion fruit and vanilla it’s a passion fruit vanilla drink and they put a little side of prco for you to drink on the side and let me tell you I saw my my friend no I’m sorry it was my it was my cousin’s wife’s sister in New York I’m I’m drinking this and she’s like porn star martinis on a Thursday or something like that and I saw it it’s a cool drink I saw it and I Googled it and I’m like oh my God these are my favorite flavors passion fruit is my favorite fruit did you know that no I did not know that passion fruit is my number one favorite fruit of all time followed closely by uh pulot plots is that how you say it yeah did you say plots plots plot PL it’s a plum in an apricot yeah I like plots well technically a plumcot is a plum and an apricot I believe a plot is like three parts Plum to one part apricot genealogically I love it I love it so so passion fruit vanilla and then a little side of you know bubbles this is literally like it was made it’s a maximalist drink it was made in a lab for girls like me you know what I mean okay so a lot of like the rise of these disco cocktails espresso Martini I associate that a lot with like I don’t know when it was invented but just that kind of like 70s you know kind of like party Vibes cocktails were a little bit too sweet and espresso Martini it’s not a martini at all espresso Martini it’s just served in a martini glass the martini glass right which makes people think it’s cool and fancy but now there’s a sort of ironic retro chew appeal oh my God you said you said the word I know and the chest thing you can do is well no here’s the thing being Chi is cool now okay so out porn star Martini is like an early 2000s drink right I want to bring back early 2000s drinks like buttery nipples like I want buttery nipples um lemon drops like I want those to come back well so this leads me into a good point um the fact that all the kids are wearing these like band T-shirts and and not just like when I was growing up Nirvana lead Zeppelin in um trying to think what other band t-shirts were popular but it was kind of like the classic rock kids would wear them yeah I used wear them and then some Earnest people who are wearing like fallout boy shirts but now the most common shirt that I have seen kids freaking wear and this trips me out do not know how they Rose to prominence are the de tones oh yeah the de tones and Slayer I’ve seen SE Slayer shirts I’ve seen a lot of Slayer shirts and a lot of De the kids love de I I listen to De tones I listen to Slayer deathones isn’t my favorite from that era like we’re talking like early 2000s new metal like I’ll I’ll go back to like System of a Down a whole lot corn system of you know what I mean um but the fact that like death tone shirts are popular I think says that pornstar martinis can make a comeback they from the same era but my thing that I want to make a comeback and this was sparked when I went to South Africa last year and I saw the possibilities Jagger Meister Jagger yger Che me out Che me out I don’t think I’ve ever had joer touch my lips what the I don’t think I’ve ever had Jager you never done a Yer bom never no little job not a single Jager bom I have not Little J what about a yab bom no but I love that video such a good video there’s so many fun ways it was part of pop culture and that pop culture is coming back I never imbibed a single lick of it but I had a girlfriend that that was her drank like she would finish like a bottle on her own I’m like go Crystal go it’s so funny because Jagermeister it became the official liquor of douchebags sometimes in the early 2000s can we say douchebags on the podcast of course we can say douchebags it’s a medical device um but is oh yeah it is it is medical device all right but Jagermeister to the company of Jagermeister they’re like a delightful German dtif made with 100 aromatics or whatever and if you divorce yourself if you were to pour Jagermeister into a fancy like DJ bottle yeah you wouldn’t know no a completely different um but now it’s so tainted with the you know I drink I I used to drink down monster energies Halloween freshman year Santa Barbara I drank six monster energies with two shots of Jer in each moner you were 21 years old yes I was 21 years old yeah I was a late bloomer I went on a Mor my LDS mission to Guam and then I came back um but the point is we associate it with moments like that now in our lives because of a successful marketing campaign it was a partying it was a it was a partying drink but now we’re flipping it baby Jagermeister fany again it’s what again it’s going to be fancy again I went to a hipster bar in Brooklyn and they made a really delicious Jagger Meister cocktail that had like peanut Ora in it and like Pine and like Tache and uh you know rum and and jger cool and I think we’re going to go full circle we are I think getting dumber and dumber as a culture and I think that is a response to the fact that uh we all studied really hard and now there’s a credential race right more people have college degrees than ever too many they but they ain’t working because we realized that oh maybe if everybody had a college degree then they didn’t really mean anything and that life is simply uh how much more accomplished you are than the next person I had to kind of explain that to my parents and they’re like w yeah yeah they didn’t really get it that’s the thing and so I think now we’re like oh that didn’t make us any happier or afford US houses and you be able to have children so we’re going to get dumber and I fully agree with it post intellectual bimbo era gger meister’s coming back porn star Martini is coming back let’s hit it okay I’m down let’s do it next time we go out let’s order let’s order two po pornstar martinis and then two uh Jagger boms let’s do it Josh yeah I’m also going to thin out my eyebrows and start listening to uh Dirty by chrisa I love that dude I literally just I bought a puka shell necklace oh my God we are living our our 2002 Rock of Love Brett Michaels era I have two poer shell necklaces now and lay them what no I don’t [Laughter] [Music] loser now every kitchen can be a mythical kitchen the mythical cookbook is available now so go to mythical.com cookbook and get yourself a copy [Music] today other food predictions other food predictions I I had I had one okay you say one and then I’ll say one all right yak yak butter at Starbucks okay expand I’m so glad you you asked me to okay so Starbucks is obviously taking a lot of liberties from different parts of the world right like we’ve seen the cold foam on top of the ice I have cold foam in My Cup right now you C them they they and I think that was a reference to the cheese tea that we saw in like Hong Kong sure yeah right yeah that that cheese foam which the word cheese foam would have turned off American audiences would have turned off American audiences so but we’re like okay the image of just thick heavy foam on top of an iced drink is very very appealing I love it I love drinking the coffee through the foam I think it’s Delight then Starbucks was like oh uh I think taking a little bit of inso from the Bulletproof Coffee movement of like adding butter to your stuff and everybody seems to think that eating a ton of fat for you is like is really good for I it’s good for your brain I think I think it’s people say it like makes your I don’t I don’t know I don’t know the science behind it again spoonful of ghee like multiple mornings when I was like kid did it make me smarter I don’t know but they say like you know carrots MCT oil and stuff is for like brain development and function I don’t know if it’s I don’t I don’t know it’s real anymore real that’s why we get Dumber we drink Jagger bombs and we wear Puka shell necklaces we listen to come my lady come come lady be my butterfly Crazy Town come on the show Shifty shell sh come on the show I hope you responds okay anyways now they’re adding you know they got the oato with the olive oil on there I think the next iteration of that nepes yak butter here’s the thing the um what are the Sherpas uh they would wake up and drink puer tea which is another another one of my trends that I think is coming back Really okay freaking love puer te yeah me too it is it is earthy it is almost saline it is just freaking hey and good I don’t know if you know this but my dad used to go to China like four times out of the Year back before the Pandy hit and he would bring back just so much po like a brick too add Yak butter to that and that I believe in uh the sherpa culture was just like hey uh breakfast like this is fatty it’s hearty we got a long day at work get some high high quality calories in your system um I think Yak butter is coming to Starbucks I think they’re going to figure it out I think they’re going to start their own Yak farms uh Howard Schultz going to start farming Yaks up near Olympia Washington boom Starbucks Yak butter and I am in I got one the Resurgence of peasant food yes do you agree but like but not like cool peasant food no no no Brown not like not like C like coule is like peasant food but it’s cool they made it Fancy no I want bowls of brown brothy liquids and some sort of starch and some sort of green thing maybe on the side barley boiled in water thinned out with sawdust so um that’s what I want have you heard of a restaurant called Cafe mutton in New York no it’s one of so it was one of the 101 best restaurants on like a New York Times list and um I look at their I follow them on Instagram and I look at their menu every single day this this restaurant is doing the most Innovative cool peasant food I’ve ever seen I’m going to pull up a menu right now the peasant food and let me tell you they do incredible things like like they just say like boiled potatoes with rope like that’s a menu item of theirs and let me see let boiled pot wait hold on hear me out boiling potatoes is simply the best way to cook them I love boiled potatoes love boiled potatoes I love boiled potatoes boiled potatoes in a in a liquid that tastes good that is excellent okay let me tell you some of the things that are on this menu uh stuffed duck neck with pickles and mustard you got all the parts of the duck that you could have used and you took the neck yeah boiled potatoes with sour cream on trout R like uh super easy like what else do they have they have like buckwheat cake with butterscotch who EA buckwheat like I I love this this type of food you know Brown good hearty food that makes your soul just jump with Glee and you’re ready to take on the next challenge that kind of food I want to see on more menus I’m tired of all these fancy small pretty plates just give me a bowl keeping bowl of brown keeping bowl of brown keep bowl of brown I want to see it more and I want to see it done well and I know that the ladies at Cafe mutton are killing it there’s a really weird thing that so heirloom vegetables are fancy right I don’t want them anymore well well well so I don’t want I want Smart and Final vegetables no you can’t get buckwheat at Smart and Final buckwheat is like an heirloom strain of wheat right that that before refined flour what I’m saying is these heirloom vegetables right so cauliflower for instance you get heirloom purple cauliflower okay and that’s like wow cool fancy you go to restaurant you go to a wedding that has purple cauliflower steamed on there you go ooh a little bit fancy elevator whatever Back in the Day horticulturist just literally bred the color out of cauliflower to make it Pure White so it was fancier the Pure White cauliflower was the fancy cauliflower turned into and now we’ve decided that no we don’t like that cauliflower we’re going back to the peasant cauliflower that was purple I’m down we’re just running in circles around here well yeah that’s how it works all the stuff Mark Twain said that cauliflower is just a what is it cabbage that went to a boarding school oh I agree okay cabbage bring cabbage no cabbage already had its moment like six years ago cabbage had no no actually I’ve been seeing a lot of brace cabbage dishes on my timeline there’s been and I’ve eaten BRAC cabbage at restaurants I don’t like it well okay so I I had there are a couple formative moments in restaurants specifically trying to go back to like quote unquote simple food but then just ultimately kind of sucking so I went to I was a Michelin star Chef Josiah citran had two Mission stars at a spot called yeah very formative in the Los Angeles fine dining movement but he decided that like hey times are changing I just want to open up a freaking Steakhouse with like honest you know uh Woodfired grilled meats and vegetables it was called uh charcoal charcoal and I remember a play a franchise was $16 I was like dog I I don’t think you know how to price food anymore um and again love this guy’s food and that restaurant’s really great but they had a dish that was just cabbage that was just like grilled and then it was served with like a yogurt sauce and I remember being there with a bunch of other food critics at the time they all ate it and they was like oh it’s such a pure representation of I’m like dog it’s a cabbage what was it like eating with those people all the time was it honestly fun or did you feel like you had to like no it was a it was a a little little pee pee measuring contest all the time and I felt sick and it makes sick do you now do you now enjoy eating with like us when we go out to like dinner like once a quarter I love it do you prefer it cuz you don’t feel like that you have to like put on a show Absolutely yeah and not to say everybody so I used to work in magazines and work and kind of half a food critic I would have to put my my name under an alias it a Thor build yakobson traveling Norwegian fiber optic cable salesman um but you used have to review my anonymously and then anytime I’d go out and eat with you know the crew of like 10 or so other like professional food writers in Los Angeles I was also young at the time so I was probably trying to put on airs okay but you know everybody was just documenting and I remember every conversation being like hey man have you gone to this place they’re doing fermented bow from a Southwest Indonesian region you never heard of yeah yeah that’s cool but to this place they’re doing and it was everybody sort of trying to one up each other on what cool food they found and then ultimately like not enjoying the food as much yeah and so I really appreciate the ability to go shut my brain off and just Vibe and eat and drink good I’m glad you deserve it not take pictures G take pictures of food that’s out you remember we used to sketching your food is in 2024 phone eats first yeah sketching food is in it’s in right now Julia made me I I thing I told you about this it was when the pandemic hit she um as a gift for my birthday she’s a very talented uh illustrator you’re you’re a fiance she’s super artistic her her grandfather is an artist I had no idea she was an artist I’ll show you the piece that she did she um she Drew all of like our favorite dishes that we’ ever eaten at restaurants together so the lucali pizza that we had monab ball soup from birdie G’s Hong Kong Curry toast from uh Nightshade and she drew them all and kind of made a mosaic and it was really beautiful sketch sketching your food is and taking pictures of your food out yeah yeah um okay if we’re talking about like actual food predictions right all the ones are just about like catastrophic climate change and like what are we going to do oh eat bugs oh hydroponically grown algae no I’m telling you I’m telling you just give me a pill so I don’t have to think about it anymore I a huge proponent of us as food creators yeah no longer eating food oh I think people that are in the food industry should no longer eat food anymore and just use it as a creative vehicle so food waste isn’t a problem anymore oh that’s interesting and then all of our KN it’s like soilent yeah but like in pill form it’s like a deaf musician right it’s like you can create it but you can’t consume I want I want to I want that out of my life for the next year or so do you really do you find food a burden at this point sometimes I do yeah yeah sometimes it’s exhausting I get it it feels obnoxious that we have to feed ourselves not only every day but multiple times two snacks yeah it’s kind of BS yeah it’s kind of BS and I just I just wish there was like a like I could snap my fingers and it could be in front of me which you know you you can do that we live in a very uh privileged Society where we could you know do do a meal delivery services and you know stuff like that but want the money the time you know I don’t want money I want to spend what I’ve been doing is pill give me a pill no my version of a pill is I’ll cook 5 lbs of chicken breast in like a couple heads of broccol I don’t actually meal prep well so this is uniquely for prepping for Thanksgiving CU I want all of my creative time and energy to be put into this insane meal that I’m making and so I’ve been on an austerity diet where what is an austerity diet where I am eating just enough chicken and broccoli to survive and then all of my other calories are coming from tasting all of the delightful stuffings and fillings and sides and practice rounds of kimchi pajun that I’m trying to make um and so that’s my version of a pill is just chicken breast um here’s the thing that I should I I I really like this early 2000s food Trend Resurgence to make a comeback and there is one product that we would always get from the gas station that I would love to make a comeback French bread pizza no wait hold on gorilla pies in uh in North Hollywood is doing French bread pizza and it is Diggity dank I got one hung over shout out to gorilla pies um but no it was like beef jerky except it was powdered and it was in like a snoo can like a can like dip yeah it looked like dip and I think they banned it because kids were you know was training him to use chewing tobacco um but just having powdered protein that you can discreetly fit in your pocket and suck down anytime that’s good that’s great I like that too artisanal do like a Pang Curry meat dip you know meat chew meat snoo MC zin’s packets with the meat oh my God are kids doing that now not kids I mean like are people of age doing that now what zins for the first time I saw somebody in the wild put in a zins packet tell the people what zins are zins are packets of chewing tobacco but they are not tobacco it is Vape is to cigarettes as zins are to snoo snoo is the brand that I know because I lived with a bunch of Scandinavians in college and boy they love snoo and Copenhagen brand don’t do tobacco it’s bad for you it’s really bad for you o tobacco flavored Foods though I’m not down we tried that yeah oh yeah we did that we did that we did that I think you poisoned yourself um other color no I oh I did Poison myself a little bit yeah don’t do that either um one food here’s just an Earnest one what that I really want to make like a hard charging like should I should be able to get it everywhere Cho various forms of Indian chat okay right um spot called Vick’s cha house up in Berkeley they got all the kinds of chot you know you go to uh Punjabi daa and Bakersfield they had Samosa chot ni chot is uh any variety of Indian snack that is typically covered with something crispy and then all of the green the green Chutney the the sweet Tamarind Chutney some sort of yogurty situation and it’s great and we need more chot okay screw Smash Burgers uh bellri stands make make more chat you know poy chat okay I want to see more cool vinegars I’ve been seeing a lot of cool vinegar I want to see more I want to see some we’ve made all the vinegars no we haven’t we made all the vinegar we all the vinegar Nicole all the vinegars that could exist already ex that’s not true What vinegar that don’t exist do you want to see okay so there’s this really like trendy one and it’s called Uh ocean vinegar by a brand named tarte I want to see I wait what’s ocean what the hell is ocean vinegar it’s a marine a main comu bladder whack and Irish sea moss I want to see I want to see a desert vinegar I want to see notes of sand and I don’t know some sort of palm tree I like this biome based flavor profiles you’re talking about yeah yeah tiger I want to see a tundra and a tiger vinegar like you put some like some like shok Nole prickly pear yeah you and I have both been to the conference that legitimately tried the Expo we went to a conference together no no not together I think we’ve own it’s called natural products Expo it’s called Expo West yeah I’ve been to XO like 15 times well they they literally that’s their whole goal is trying to like sort of predict the future food Trends and I remember being violently disappointed by so many food products vegan canned Lobster not great n a big thing that I was uh on was raw Maple Water oh right you tap the tree instead of boiling down with syrup you just drink it turns out tastes bad I was just hanging out at the Chobani Booth they spent like three mil on that Booth I was just chilling in the Chobani booth for like hours uh what do you okay Smash Burgers and bira right those were two massive massive Trends what is a street food that you just like earnestly genuinely want to see people perfect like what’s your favorite iteration Jun is it is it something I’ve eaten before or something that I want to see either either or dude either popcorn chicken actually I want to see or or those little squid balls what are those called Tako Yaki Tako Yaki I want to see takoyaki here do you like Tako Yaki I I I literally love takoyaki so much it’s got a unique combination of Squish and chew that doesn’t J me God oh my God like how dig it all especially when I’m drinking but oh my God I love that stuff man I could eat that all I want to see popcorn chicken and tacoyaki I love that I just I want to see my favorite fish taco truck in Los Angeles left the city rip Ricky fish tacos used to park underneath the overpass in those FAS um and it was a bummer for me and I think the Baja Fish Taco I I grew up I mean eating them at like Rubios which is a chain but also started really legit in San Diego I I want people to just make the best fish taco possible I want them to be on every Street Corner same it’s it’s like really really one of my favorite foods I love fish tacos yeah and I just and and we’ve the carada revolutions already happened in Los Angeles and and soon to be coming to the world because like this is you you see a fashion show right I know we’ve talked about this concept but you see a fashion show and somebody’s wearing something looks really dumb right and you’re like nobody would ever wear that dumb looking thing uhuh but then like 5 years later something inspired by that dumb looking thing is on the the is this just the Miranda Priestly devil wees prodest like Soliloquy but just condens I’ve never seen the movie you’ve I’ve seen Clips I’ve seen Adrien grineer try and flip a grilled cheese like 15 times you’ve never seen where she says your your jacket’s not blue it’s not lapis it’s Cerulean and that jacket was picked out from the very people in this room that you call stuff you don’t know that Soliloquy oh you know what I think Julia’s probably told me about that Soliloquy and that’s why I know the thing that I’m saying yeah and then I I said back to her cuz this is all just a conduit for conversations I’ve already had with her right um that same thing happens in food right we’re like in a major city there’s a big Trend uh and like biria came to Los Angeles from Tijuana started popping off on the old TL’s for people and now Del taco is introducing biria Taco Bell had bira that they tried and I think discontinued um carada that happened in La like two three years ago and revolutionized and we’ve always had kada but I’m talking about like people straight up like driv driving the meat from Mexico like driving the wood from Mexico I’m thinking Sonora town I’m thinking uh AO chali um that other one that people love they open up brick and more anyways point is that already happened I’m waiting for the fish taco Revolution green wine that’s just alberino isn’t it maybe what else what else you get one more you get one more one more one more um uh they had chopped sandwiches Blended sandwiches sandwich Pates all Pates that are flavored like grilled cheeses grilled cheeses that are flavored bacon flavored pencils yeah sounds good do you wake up in a cold sweat from your work dreams have a cooworker who keeps inviting you to do Escape rooms can’t get a cooworker to agree to do Escape rooms or are you just genuinely not sure how to take the next step in your career I’m Kate and I’m Kim and together we run Amy Po’s company paper kite Productions we’ve been friends and colleagues for years so we know how important it is to feel like someone has your back at work and we want to be that for you so we’re hosting a weekly advice show where we answer all your work-related questions something amazing happened I got offered my dream job how am I supposed to bring this up to him without hurting his feelings what should I do I want to like skip the pleasantries without being an hole careful money and friends they don’t mix babes they don’t and don’t work with your friends make your friends at work all right I can’t believe I’m going to say this but that was actually million dooll advice whether you need advice or just love to listen to other people’s problems this show is for you listen and follow million dooll advice an odyssey podcast available now for free on the Odyssey app and wherever you get your [Music] podcast all right Nicole I just saw a funny picture of a kitty I love cats so much she’s locked into this podcast we’ve heard what you and I to say now it’s time to find out what other wiggity wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe time for Segment we call opinions are like [Music] casser so pretty much if you could be on any dating show on VH1 what dating show would you be on um what was the one with Tila Tequila I know I know I know she’s a na now despite being I believe Vietnamese American but yeah no I I liked her vibe okay I liked her vibe well I think I’d be on I Love New York yeah she and that was of course a spin-off of Flavor of Love which was technically sort of a spin-off of what was it called I don’t know it wasn’t The Surreal Life was it um was that the cartoon no no this no you’re thinking of Drawn Together which is the cartoon but The Surreal Life is correct correct right cuz flavor flave and Bri neelen I started dating on The Surreal Life we watched so much VH1 together our brains oh my God melted anytime that we’re like the kids are watching Tik Tok they getting stupid we were just watching VH1 dating shows informative age and flavor she was so tall he was so short he had a clock around his neck W and then and then on of Love New York spit or no someone spit on pumpkin yeah New York spit on pumpkin or pumpkin spit on New York oh pumpkin spit on New York York let the record show anyways Su me [ ] what tequila tequila of course a shot at love that was a spin-off of her appearance on inexplicably Ted nent had a reality show did he really yeah where he like took soft Millennials and he was like you’re going to come on my Ranch and learn how to kill a deer and she was one of them and never forget he set a line that said til what is it Tila sex is your currency and you’re a rich [ __ ] and I was like oh that the most disgusting thing man has ever said um and of course that Nicole was only off the backs of the success of the simple life with parisel and Nicole Richie love the simple life God I feel like The Giver I feel like I’m just I’ve just absor did you really watch a symbol life what yeah of course yeah do you know what I’m doing right now no I don’t okay I didn’t I it didn’t stick with me that much it’s fine it’s time for everybody’s favorite segment review or review that’s right that’s where we try and go you into leaving us positive reviews on Apple SP podcasts um because it helps us in a way that we don’t quite understand but We crave them do it uh so let’s let’s look at this this is from at Lin’s five stars big a delicate onct to real food beliefs honestly no one before megie has been able to present such a succinct and complete understanding of the finest in culinary culture and delectable dishes five stars for megie Nicole seems great zero stars for Josh he is purely distraction from excellence dni in future episodes what does d do not include in future is literally like the biggest this somebody has finally told me to take a vacation and I think I’m going to listen to it you deserve you deserve three vacations a year you you that be pretty cool dude you deserve three vacations a year and I mean that with every fiber of my being yeah it’s a lot it’s a lot to make you know you go from a show so hard you know talking about someone’s mom dying while eating fajitas you know and then you got to stuff a turkey with Cheetos you got to come here you got to write medor reviews you know it’s a lot I like my job though it’s fun I think you need to get out of out of here three times a year yeah I probably do that man you know what I mean I’m going to New Orleans it’s fun I give this five it’s a good review yeah megie meie finally getting a they spelled your name wrong it’s m e g g i e that’s right if you were a real you’re such a fake meie fan you can’t even name her I I don’t expect them to know how to how to say most people don’t even know that megie isn’t an actual person megy is a band like Steely Dam go ahead mey to me too I’m just like so appreciative that people are finally recognizing my input into these discussions um and now that I have just like a microphone I can just like give myself a microphone if I want to um to anyone listening who still plays like my brother or whatever um you just lost the game anyways so thank you for listening everyone I’ll give it back to you to you guys Jos what do you rate this what do you rate this review a million stars are you serious megie did you not have a microphone for the last three and a half years uh no I didn’t even know you didn’t know I didn’t know I didn’t know that the ceiling of this podcast Studio was like weird gold it’s like an old bank I I was in here for three years until I looked up also for to go behind the scenes we are in the podcast studio right now because we’re not doing video so we’re not in the mythical kitchen right now yeah I don’t know what that ceiling looks like either all I know is one time spiders rained from it into our food that’s the thing that happened thousand thousand dead spiders blew into all of our food it’s like a freaking plague megy playing a p hi Josh and Nicole my name is is Mia um longtime listener big fan of yours my food opinion is that um pickled okra is criminally underrated and it is not enjoyed by nearly enough people in the United States especially because I know it’s really popular obviously in like Texas and in Southern States but I feel like it has been popular in other parts of the country um and you can only like find it in some grocery stores like kind of up north and it’s so good and people think that I’m a freak because I will literally eat it by the jarful she’s a very freaky girl Nicole the kind you don’t take home love it so much and I would love to hear your opinions on pickled oah and maybe why you think that it isn’t super popular Nicole’s right that Texas is in America right I talk a lot about how the idea of suceeded don’t move well you can you name the six nations that have held uh held Texas at any given point let me can I guess can I guess okay USA that’s one um Spain that’s two Mexico that’s three um okay let’s let’s think let’s think let’s think Portugal nope okay let’s think Canada no Canada never was like we’re going to swoop around um um Guatemala uh Guatemala historically has not been a world super Salvador no you’re not going to want to go to Central America okay you’re going to want to go back to Europe for one for one and I’m I’m going to say France that is that is correct uhhuh uh-huh and then there’s one and the last two there’s two more a little bit tricky one one of these nations is now the United States but for a brief period of uh very bellicose time Bell they did not consider themselves part of the United States Bell Co me Alaska no Alaska never waged war against the United States the Confederacy did and that is one of the Nations oh that’s BS uh listen and the other nation is the Republic of Texas they declared themselves independent they were an independent nation for like six seven years yeah I know it’s a tricky State it’s weird history okay pickled okra I like pickled okra I think the reason why people don’t like pickled okra or okra in general is because it’s slimy in the middle I love okra my favorite rendition of okra was recently my mother-in-law had a kebab night a cabbab night I should say and she gave me some pickled okra and not pickled she gave me uh grilled okra and it was one of the most delicious things I’ve had with and I dipped it in salt and lime juice and it was really freaking delicious and I love okra I don’t love pickled okra but I but I’ll eat okra more I like pickled ochre because I think the the sliminess of it sort of cuts through that acid a little bit you know what I mean and and I really like that texture I do love love love okra um grilled okra we had it at stafy that is one of my we didn’t have it no I had it when I went with my other friends cuz I have other friends you went to Safi twice I sure did uh we had grilled okra and it was what came sizzling off the grill skewered so so so good okra very very underrated um also Deep’s mom once made a dry curry with okra and she really sort of like bled the slime out of it but there was still a little bit of that just kind of like Sumptuous texture and with the dry Curry especially like the inside Gess of the okra wet the dry Curry from the inside out it was so good I made us I made you Persian stew with okra it was undercooked I’m sorry that’s okay no but it was I’d rather you I learn every day you learn every day so Six Flags the amus park it was Six Flags Over Texas and it’s because there were six nations that red Texas shut up I’m I am so smart what about that that guy was like yeah so he was actually uh the nephew of the president of the Confederacy and that’s why he got to do that commercial that’s a lie that’s a lie it was actually a female dancer in in a suit was it really yeah do people know that also would know it also really smart you think you’re the only the hamster dance right is the hamster dance and he looks like an old manand no no no that’s wrong cuz the H is you’re right you’re right it’s okay it’s okay we’re really we’re really sling on dude it’s the end of 2023 we should make this a three-hour pod we should do a marathon for charity but then pocket the money Josh it’s 2023 it’s the end of the year man let’s just go we’re vibing it we’re vibing it we’re vibing vibing it Thanksgiving has not happened yet hi Josh Nicole so we are still acting if you’ve ever had a pizza Puff and it’s a very like big thing for us because we’re from like Chicago other Chicago area and I just want to know if you’ll ever eat a pizza puff and if you don’t you better like you like okay so like a pizza puff is better than like eating actual like Chicago Pizza it’s like a pastry in a pizza it’s a pastry in a pizza so like eat it and then show me anyway I love you uh we love you so much thanks we love you we listen to you every week and please eat a pizza puff eat a pizza puff I will why you yelling at me it’s so so great all right much love oh my God Chicago in the building with the pizza puffs one of the most underrated Chicago foods and I have indeed had one friend of the podcast Dennis Lee Love Dennis fart sandwich been on the Pod before I love Dennis Lee and he showed me all around Chicago same same we went to maybe the worst food establishment I’ve ever been to and we got maybe the worst Food I’ve ever had we tried to get a Chicago dog but they were out of at least three ingredients to go on a Chicago dog oh that’s um yeah and then we got a pizza puff which as the caller said is it’s like a Hot Pocket but it’s only made by one Factory in Chicago and you put it in a fry and then it stays hot for an hour to 2 hours it’ll still burn you um and then there’s a pizza flavored goo inside of like a sort of wet soggy dough um which normally I like these things and then the best thing that we got at this uh Chicago little roadside establishment was I don’t know if they called it gravy bread where it’s an Italian beef with no beef you simply take the roll and you you slather it in Juice okay and you eat it and it was I can’t stress this enough maybe the worst Food experience I’ve ever had in my life I’ll eat a pizza puff tell me where to get a pizza can I get a pizza puff in in California let me get one again no it it I asked Dennis why it never got outside of Chicago and he was like H people don’t seem to really enjoy them very much oh my gosh also I love your accent I love the way you speak caller please just call once a week and just for me not to be on the podcast just to like just tell me what you did today I love the way you’re accent is it’s incredible do I have an accent people tell me I have a Persian accent sometimes uh no and I and I know people that have like Southern California Persian American accents I don’t sound like them do I no you don’t uh sometimes you code switch when you’re around like your your friends from home I do yeah yeah you can sort of tell it’s it’s it’s like an inflection thing you have a bit of it’s almost a bit of a valley girl Metropol I see that I see that do I have an accent people say I sound like Jesse Eisenberg I don’t know what that means yeah yeah it’s the thing that I get a lot I don’t know if it’s a somewhat dry delivery I think it’s just the uh I think it’s the the manner in which you speak and you kind of go up and down and then also uh just very pointed it’s fast and it’s pointed it’s pointed and it’s fast yeah I have a lot of Hardline opinions on things but it’s not the it’s not your opinion it’s the way that you deliver them your mouth but I think the mouth delivery is necessitated by the Hardline opinions including that Hardline opinion about Hardline opinions necessitating certain mouth delivery in a Jesse Eisenberg and manner next opinion megie I’ve had a lot of great food and I love Chicago me too me too hey my name is rean up in British Columbia Canada I love the show I believe that Hines chili sauce is far superior to ketchup yes okay yes if you guys have chili sauce down there but uh if you don’t let me know I’ll send you a bottle thanks bye Hines chili sauce along with Hines 57 sauce Nicole they are dying condiments and we need to save them let’s bring them back let’s bring back I want to try both of them I’ve seen them on the shelves and I’ve never picked them up uh the ironic thing about Hines chili sauce is it is ketchup with spice in it yes I mean it really is it it starts with tomato puree and so it’s basically just a ketchup with spice in it but it makes everything better because 99 times out of 99 when I eat ketchup I mix it with sriraja cuz I want a spicy K but s is not around that much anymore I know that’s why I need to find an alternate and I think Hind chili sauce might be that alternate okay you know what I mean that’s a great opinion to end on you what’s 57 sauce H so hi I believe it does it have 57 ingredients in it you’ve seen hin 57 on bottles of ketchup yes I believe it has to do with the number of ingredients in the original hin 57 sauce Google it fact Checker fact Checker back scratcher fact Checker fact Checker 57 is a cynic dooke o what does cynic dooke mean that’s one of those words that syncity no skti is a city no I believe that word is pronounced it is skti I’ve been saying Sy oh I just outed myself as a dummy it is syc you’ve never seen that movie no syc New York I thought it was wait what no no but this is not the city this is a word the Fig I know that but you oh my God there’s a movie about it the guy who’s the guy that played Schuman capot come on uh um the guy that play Philip Seymour Hoffman Philip Seymour Hoffman was in a movie called sencity New York which is a play on this word s s syot or whatever I know what I’m talking about I looked at the Wikipedia article like 12 years ago wow am I right I had no idea what skti means I’m right but isn’t there a city called skti yes I’m correct I hate this what is hin 57 sauce we didn’t answer it [Music] manufacturing is more than 60 products of the time Henry thought okay 57 varieties were uh the varieties of sauce that Henry Hines felt he sold but he may be I know it’s sticy New York now no this is the movie and know it’s the movie and this is the city skti is the city stii is and it’s a postmodern psychological Thriller starring Philip seor Hoff yes God I see you suck I thought the word was round cynic do oh like how I thought Paradigm was Paradigm a soft G on par it happens it happens it happens H we’re both pretty dumb if you really look at it you just said we’re smart no I don’t know man my life rides the sign curve of emotion constantly well and as we’ve now learned sticy is the word of the day we will be doing a word of the day on every podcast now and it is a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent the whole or vice versa as in Cleveland won by six runs oh meaning Cleveland’s baseball team because you know what Cleveland means because of the in the context a sticy yeah I don’t I don’t think I’m going to use that I don’t think I’m going use that word a lot that’s fine I’m just glad that you learned something and I did I already misuse the word shth yeah and this has been a shth of the podcast thank you all so much for a fantastic 2023 we love you so much love you here’s some more spreadable Tin Fish and Jagger bombs and porn star martinis and fish tacos and desert vinegar and desert vinegar in 2024 it’s all happening y’all this is the year we finally do it [Music]