Josh, if I fall asleep during the flight, wake me up for snacks, okay? No way, man. I’m stealing your Biscoff cookies and I’m using them as currency. I’m gonna run this flight like the freaking mob. No! Don’t do that! I’m gonna do it. No! I will, I promise. No. This is a hot dog is a sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? No! Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. The show we break down the world’s biggest food debates. I’m your host Josh Sharer. And I’m your host Nicole Aniety. And today we are taking a bit from the 1990s stand up comedy greats and we’re talking about airline food. Yeah, what’s the deal with it? What is the deal indeed? Bam. Brick wall. Um, we recently were on a plane together. Yeah. And you were reading on the flight as was your fiance and I was not, I do not read on flights or at all. There is a new trend on flights that is primarily from the stoic male crowd of influencers. Raw dogging the flights where you have no snacks, no water, no inflight entertainment, no books. You just sit there with your own thoughts. That is my own personal version of hell. Yeah. I don’t believe, I mean, you can. I like to like, switch it up, like I look at the map, I like talk to people, I go on my phone, like I, I, you know, I don’t believe in raw dogging a flight. Absolutely not. Bad for your brain. How do you feel though about eating on flights? Because I have been known to raw dog the food on flights. Like you don’t eat at all, ever? I don’t eat at all. Or what I do, and I still sort of stand by this, but I’m open to changing, is I go very slow. Spartan mode, because if I’m traveling to anywhere, there’s food that I want to eat at that destination. Oh! Because any other city, like, when I flew to New Jersey for two weddings, spent a week there, I had like 11 unique New Jersey only foods that I partook in, Nicole, and that’s what I was there. I was there for the meatball salad. I was there for the shrimp parmesan hoagie. I was there for the New Jersey shore salad. I wasn’t there for getting a 12 cheese and charcuterie little box with sweaty salami in it on the flight. Is the first thing you do whenever you get off a flight, go eat, like, in the airport or somewhere? No, in the airport? No, no, no. I get off, I like to completely starve myself like a cage fighter. I don’t do that. No, I think the little snacks make it more bearable. Something crunchy, something yummy, just to keep you going. I like it. What is your snack strategy? Are you bringing food from home? Cause Julia likes to, she makes a little orange slices and stuff and I never want to, yeah. Um, well I always steal approximately, it depends how long my flight is. Like if I’m going to like, maybe it’s like a two hour flight, I won’t bring my own snacks, but if I’m going to like a seven plus hour flight, I’m going to steal approximately four to seven snacks from work and then I will bring a baggie of fruit, like tangerine, something that travels well, like a tangerine or a few cucumbers. And then I refill my water bottle there, and yeah, that’s pretty much my, my M. O. So you are doing that for utility purposes, because you’re not like enjoying or indulging in tangerine, but you want like a little bit of nutrition to get you through the plate. Yeah, I think it makes sense, instead of like, uh, it’s so expensive whenever you buy snacks that aren’t like free. And that’s another, I spend, we’ve talked about this, we’re bad with money. I’m trying to be better, but no, I don’t, I don’t handle, let me tell you, I just don’t handle my finances, like, my husband does that. I know it’s a little bit of an archaic way to go about it, but it works for us! It works! I make frivolous purchases. I once tried to buy a 300 fake fur coat filled with, uh, flashing LED lights to go to one rave themed birthday party. Julia had to tell me that’s not a good investment. 300 for a fake one? Yeah, well it was, it was the LED lights that you’re really paying for and you’re paying for the pomp and circumstance. You’re actually worse than money than I am. But the thing that I won’t do is buy like a 12 bag of Chex Mix from an airport concession stand, a Hudson News. I refuse that. I refuse to buy a meal on a plane. If I got vouchers, bro, I refuse to go to a freaking Sbarro in an airport and pay, um, what they call street pricing plus because that’s what they do in airports. Interesting. Okay. So like, effectively, the way that airports run their food, I actually learned this when I did an internship with a restaurant that they were thinking about putting into LAX. Oh, cool. None of it is actually run by the restaurant. It’s all a third party collection of vendors. All of them? That basically license your name and slap it on there, and then they cook whatever food that comes from the Cisco trucks that may or may not fit into LAX. That makes a lot of sense because every time I go, and David is a big fan of being like a member at a lot of like restaurants and stuff, like uh, Like a regular or like a paying member? No, you know like how Starbucks has those like uh, Yeah, the rewards points and all that Yeah, like he has like a Panda Express one, he has a Chipotle one Jesus But whenever, what do you mean? He likes it. He’s good with money. He’s not good with money. No, he’s not good with money. Panda Express does not have a rewards program for charity. They do it because they make more money off of you. I’m saying Panda Express is making money off of you on the rewards. You think you’re saving, all you’re doing is buying more Panda Express than you ever would. Well, I digress. That is the way these functions. That’s what credit card points are. Okay, I’ll go. Breathe, relax. You Chipotle bowl. Wait, hold on. You can get a free Chipotle bowl if you buy like 12 Chipotle bowls. What are you talking about? That’s free. Okay, I’m calm now. Okay, so But whenever we went to the Panda Express in LAX, they’re like, oh, we’re not affiliated with that rewards program. Really? They won’t even let you. So that makes sense how it’s from a third party. It makes a lot of sense That’ll be 27 for your Kung Pao chicken. I do love airplane. Panda Express is more than anything else though. That is a good thing to do. If I need, I generally try and keep it as healthy as possible in airports because I’m about to, again, utterly binge on Taylor ham sandwiches at the Jersey shore or like a Sonoran style hot dog if I’m flying into Arizona. Um, and so I tend to not indulge. However, I was reading, I think it was a Ruth Rachel’s memoir and she talks about how, um, Airports are like these liminal spaces where you can do and eat whatever you want. And recently, it was on the way back from tour, where we were flying out of Philly, and, uh, I had like hurt my back, and the tour was, you know, it was, it was super fun, but it was Taxing. Very mentally taxing. physically taxing. And so I’m at the airport about to get on like, you know, a six hour flight back to L. A. Mm hmm. And I go to the airport bar, and I got a shot and a beer. A yingling, a lager, Nicole, a proper Pennsylvania beer. And then I bought a cheesesteak and I was like, I’m not done drinking here. And I just got a Fernet and Coke and I bought the bartender a shot of Fernet. And my flight was very, very enjoyable. You weren’t full of alcohol and cheesesteak? I was exactly full of alcohol and cheesesteak. you feel good? Good, bad, it’s a false dichotomy. I felt so bad that I felt euphoric. I had ascended. So, I never want to be in the middle of a bell curve. I never want to be properly hydrated and nutrished. What I want to be Do you remember what I, uh, ordered on the flight back from Mythicon? Do you remember my drink order? I was, I was, I was like, so sick. I had a hundred and two degree fever on that flight. I was so ill. I was literally not conscious. So no, I don’t remember anything that you did. Gin and black coffee, together. Ew. I got a shot of gin and a cup of black coffee. But like, do to feel. Are you doing that for yourself? Or are you doing that to be like, hey guys, I got a gin and black coffee because you don’t know how to turn it off. I am completely the singularity between my online persona and my actual. Soul have now reached. They have fused. I don’t know where the, uh, performance stops and the person begins. All I know is I’m ripping aviation gin, shout out to Ryan Reynolds, and burnt airport coffee, and it made me feel something. So that’s maybe what I need on a flight. It’s something that’s either going to make me feel from deprivation, or like, utter, uh, indulgence. What about peanuts? Can we talk about peanuts? All the kids got the peanut allergy since this. I used to love the peanuts. I was a big fan of the peanuts. But also, I must say, the Biscoff cookies were quite delightful. So different airlines have different like signature snacks, right? It looks like Delta. Is Delta the No, Biscoff is American, I believe. It’s American and Alaska. I think Alaska is owned by American, maybe? I don’t know. All these are big conglomerates and they need to be shut down from antitrust laws. But anyways, um, there are certain free snacks. I don’t want to get scammed by the up pricing, right? And I don’t need, like, the nutrition that a little, uh, salami and, like, warm hummus cup is gonna give me. My parents never allowed for that kind of tomfoolery. Absolutely not. Never. They would never allow it. But the free snacks on airplanes. What is the best free airplane snack? It’s gotta be the Biscoff, right? Biscoff with a ginger ale, light ice. That’s me, 100 percent of the time. I have started, um, again, don’t know if this is the performance or the person, but I have started ordering Cali Mochos. What does that even mean? Peanut Gallery, we know what a Cali Mocho is? Her name is Cali Uches. She’s Superstar. Okay. Cali Mocho is what dirtbag Spanish teens drink, which is the cheapest red wine you can find mixed with Coca Cola. That’s what it’s called. A Cali Mocho. Yeah, it’s very erudite, it’s very cultured. Do you ask the attendant for a Cali Mocho or do you just say, can I get a red wine and Coke? Can I get a red wine and Coke? God bless you. But then they start asking questions. They’re like, why do you do that? How familiar are you with dirtbag Catalonian teens? And, and they say not really. I’ll either do that or a tomato juice and sparkling water. Sometimes I do tomato juice when I’m, when I’m feeling frisky. But I mix the tomato juice and sparkling water to make a tomato soda. So you can throw it away. I call it fizzy soup. I think. You know what you like? You know what you like? You like pop chips. That’s one thing I know about you. Oh, oh my god, I love pop chips. You and Josh plus a book that no one’s heard of and just two bags of pop chips and he is in heaven. I’m a big fan. But I think what I need is something stimulating me enough that is not a, like, hardcore, uh, class A drug or whatever. Um, to like Get me through a book, right? Because if I’m just reading a book on a plane, your eyes wander. But if you’re trying to get the right ratio of red wine and Coke, Coke zero if you’re nasty, or tomato juice and sparkling water, that gives me a little task to break up the time. I’m happy for you. Yeah, but the last thing that I want is like a sensible meal on an airplane. No, me either. It’s not about sensibility on a plane. You just, you just got to do what you have to do just to get over it. Should we start teleporting? Why do they keep their chips in the fridge? They keep their chips in the fridge? You ever go on an airplane and you get like the SunChips garden salsa variety? Are they cold? They’re cold. Well, it’s because you’re in Well, Josh, whenever you go in an airplane, it’s cold. Pressure. Pressure. Not pressure, but coldness. Coldness. It’s cold up there. It is cold up there. Yeah. Is that what it is? It’s just a nice air frigid I don’t think they’re refrigerated. Air frigid sun chips? I don’t think they have the space for refrigeration. I don’t know. I’m imagining they’re just pulling all the snacks out of one fridge. I don’t think it’s a fridge. I think it’s a cabinet. It could be a cabinet. Um, do you think that more American based airlines should serve you food? Because I haven’t done a ton of international traveling, but when I was in South Africa, we flew from Hudspruit to Cape Town. Okay. And on, whatever South African Air is called, it’s probably called South African Air, um, it was like an hour and ten minute flight and they served a full meal. That’s very nice of them. It was like a chicken curry wrap and like snacks and like a veggie tray. And you could tell that everybody like expected that. Like this is very normal. You’re flying, you deserve a snack. I mean, again, if it’s seven plus hours, sure. But I don’t think, to get from the, from like California to like Maine, that’s what, like six hours, five hours? It’s like just over six, I think, to go, like, kiddie corner. Then you can, you don’t need to, you don’t need a full meal. But if, like, for example, whenever I went from, like, I went nonstop from L. A. to Tokyo, I’m sorry, L. A. to Kyoto, like, I needed food. And I’m glad that they gave us food, and it was delicious. What’s the best actual, like, meal you’ve had on an airplane? Was there anything that was memorable? No, no, actually, yes, one time I flew from LA to New York on Mint Airlines, like, uh, I think it was Delta Mint, I don’t know what it is, I think it’s JetBlue Mint, and I had a meal literally made from like a New York chef, and it was delicious and beautiful, the potatoes were perfectly cooked, I had like a little, like, piece of like tenderloin and it was wonderful and I had like a chimichurri on it and I had like three glasses of champagne. It was really fun and I watched uh, an Anthony Bourdain documentary and it was great. Roadrunner? I don’t know. Is that what it was called? I don’t remember. I fell asleep halfway. I was laying down like this. It felt really good. You grew up with, like, boomer parents, right? Um, I Your dad’s a boomer or he’s a customer? I don’t know, they’re, like, immigrant parents, so I don’t know if they’re necessarily boomers. They still have an age. No, I know, but, like, I don’t know if they’re, like, textbook boomers. But, like, did your dad ever complain about, like, Make flights great again? Never. Did you ever complain about like people used to dress up at the airport and used to be in a van? They used to serve you food. But my dad would always dress up. He does actually, like for like passport photos and like whenever he goes to like the DMV, he does dress up at the DMV. Look good, feel good, bae. Look good, feel good. My dad used to travel internationally once every three months from California to China, Shanghai. So he was all about wearing like comfortable clothes and stuff. Yeah, yeah. So, no, he’s not like that. So my dad was like a textbook, textbook boomer, literally born in 46, and then he was a plain dad. We’ve talked about plain dads. I don’t remember. Dads that are really into planes. He was a plane guy? Oh, he was, he worked for uh, airlines for like a majority of his career. I remember he like helped you get, like you guys like uh, got rid of a snake in between? Yeah, it was when he worked at a smaller airport, Palomar Airport in San Diego, and he taught me how to kill snakes. Yeah, I remember that story. Because he would have to drive a Ford Bronco around the runway to try and clear any pests that could get sucked up into an engine. Sure, sure. And the snake, you can’t run it over because snakes, their bones are so malleable, they’ll just recover from that. You gotta take a shovel, you gotta bash its head off. We had a lot of good father son bonding moments, but he would always tell me about the good old days. He used to work for TWA Airlines. I don’t know TWA. Or Pan Am. Time Warner? Or TWA. Time Warner Cable. And Pan Am. And like, they used to serve these lavish meals. And they partnered with, um, God, was it Le Cirque? It wasn’t Le Cirque. It was a very, Maxime. Okay. They partnered with a restaurant in Paris called Maxime, which was like the best restaurant at the time. Sure. Sure. Multiple Michelin stars, whatever. And they made the food for the flights. We’re sort of seeing a bit of a return to that with this celebrity chef area, getting like John, John Shook and Vinnie DiTolo, two LA based celebrity chefs. Who, like, at some point were doing meals for airlines. Do you think there’s any, do you have any desire for that? Or are you satisfied with your SunChips and Quest bars? I think I’m satisfied with SunChips and Quest bars. I think the whole point, all I care about on a flight is getting from point A to point B safe and maybe watching a Lord of the Ring. Like, that’s all I want to do, even though I don’t love Lord of the Rings. That’s probably my least favorite trilogy film out of all of the trilogy films of all time. What? What other trilogy films? I like Harry Potter. That’s not a trilogy. I mean, no, I mean. It’s like a nonology. What’s it called? What’s it called? It’s like eight of them. It’s an ontology. What’s it called, Maggie, whenever it’s a lot of, a lot of movies? I’m just infuriated that you think Lord of the Rings is, you know I’m just not a Lord of the Ringer. Precious. Precious! I mean, I’ll watch Fantastic Beasts and where to find them. Beast got cookies, Herbixes! I’ll watch, I’ll watch Star War, like, whatever. But like, you know, I’m not, I’m not there to have the best flight experience of my life. Will I, will I hopefully one day, like, fly? Fly first class and do all these things, yadda, yadda, yadda, have a meal, buy a slurpery chef, sure, why not? But I don’t think that should be the base. I think just the most important thing is that my pilot knows how to get from point A to point B. I really need that. And that the, and that the, and that the airport stewardesses, or whatever, the, what are they called? Flight attendants. Flight attendants, sorry. Stewardess. Are just, are just like, kind, but not like overly kind, just like kind, I like them sassy. You do. Oh, I love a good sassy play, don’t I? Oh, no. Oh, I don’t. Well, I mean, I just like, I’m normal. Like, just like, plain, run of the mill, like, simple. And sitting next to someone who, like, won’t fight for the armrest. That’s, that’s all I need. That’s it. Headphones. Free headphones. Um, last time, Julie and I were sitting on the aisle and the window, and a dude sat in front of us, and he Fell asleep and was grabbing at my leg and I don’t know what to do. If there’s anything that I hope our audience comes to know after this, It’s that, um, airports are scamming you. And you should not buy a single piece of food. No, really, you should not buy a single piece of food in an airport. Because they’re upcharging like crazy. And actually about half of all airport revenues come from airlines. Then half of the revenues come from the actual concessions themselves. You’re getting absolutely bilked. What you should do is take food from home. And what I would recommend, hear me out, And There’s nothing that a couple boiled eggs cannot get you through in life, Nicole. Listen, if you bring boiled eggs, tuna sandwich, or any sort of food heavily spiced with fenugreek, I hate you. I hate you. I hate you! Go onto that plane and you are going to dominate all of factorily, Nicole. You are going to get on that and they are going to know who the alpha on that plane is. You think somebody is going to fight for that armrest when you’re sucking down eggs? filled with tuna next to him? Absolutely not. You can’t get good usable protein. And then once you’ve gotten your protein intake goals to the six hour flight, when you land in Jersey, you can’t do that. You can eat as much saltwater taffy as you want. You can’t do that. Oh, you can’t eat as much saltwater taffy. You got crab fries, chicken and Pete’s on the boardwalk. Come on, man. That’s unacceptable. I will say also like a Cheez It out of fun cheese. It’s a great more cheesity. Let’s start running through like rapid fire good, good plane snack, bad plane snack. Okay, go for it, go for it. Beef jerky. Yes. Great plane snack? Yes. Trail mix. Uh, no. Why? Sticky. I love it. I ate 1, 100 calories worth of trail mix on my last three hour flight. It was great. Um, Oreo bits. Oh, so good. Full sized Oreos. Oh, bad. Let’s go. Quest bars. Good, good, good, good, good. They’re typically the only protein bar they stock at Hudson News. What is Hudson? You keep saying Hudson News. That’s like where they sell magazines and five hour energy shots. You want to actually do one place? Why don’t you just say the place you buy magazines? I’m lying. I’m a fraud. I’m like, bring food from home. You think I have the foresight to do that? I can’t answer an email. What I do is I go to the Hudson News. Why is it called, are they all called Hudson News in the United States of America? People will know, comment below if you know what Hudson News is, you all do. And I go to Hudson News, and I, depending on how long I’m traveling, I will buy like 5 5 hour energy shots and 5 quest bars. Do you go even sleeping on an airplane? I can’t. Never? Unless it’s a lay down seat. Like the, the, the two times. You’re such a princess. The two times I cannot sleep on flights and so what I do is I get all, I’ll just rip spit on energy and then I just tear through a book, you know? Or I watch some sort of um, coming of age movie, cause that’s my favorite. I watch Boyhood on a Flight. Ugh! Richard Linklater, man. Phenomenal. What a talent. Well, the best airplane snack, I think, is water. No, you’re going to want to dehydrate yourself. No, no, no, water. Drink some tomato juice, there’s sodium in there, it’s going to leach your muscles of all of their water, and then that way you can drink something better when you get to your destination. Just drink water, have maybe a full meal. A free biscoff cookie and also just be nice to your neighbors whenever you’re sitting like next to someone just be nice I flew on a now defunct airline 40 minute flight. I was able to get four drinks in that 40 minute period I don’t drink on air free alcohol on that flight. I don’t drink on airplanes bad juju. I don’t like it agree disagree All right I hurt my webbing of my thumb. I don’t want to hear about your wedding. I don’t want to hear about your webbing We’ve heard what you and I have to say. Now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe. It’s time for a segment we call Opinions are like casseroles! Do they know that this is a short pod? Oh, this is a short pod. This is a short pod. Because we don’t want to talk for more than 30 minutes today. We’re very tired. I’m a sleepy girl. And life is hard. I slept so bad last night. Nicole hurt her webbing. I hurt my webbing so bad right now. I, I, my webbing was pinched. Can you see that? Zoom in. Enhance. It hurt. Look how pink it is. I slept really great last night. I skipped my morning workout to sleep more. Because sometimes if you sacrifice sleep for working out, you’re actually just doing more damage to your body. Alright, let’s get to that first opinion. Hey guys, one time listener, first time caller. I just want to know what your thoughts, opinions are on household dishcloth. Is there a timeline? Is there a point of no return? No matter how much you bleach them, you hang them to dry. Is there a cutoff point for household dishcloth? Doing them scrubby old dishes. Uh, let me know what you think. Love the pod. I think that’s what the kids say these days. They do say that. They do say that. Thank you for watching. Household dishcloth. Well So we might be talking about a couple different things. I agree. So I’m thinking kitchen towel, this person is talking about dish cloth. This person sounds like they’re using a cloth to do their dishes. And you use a Sponge. Sponge. I use three, I have three kinds of sponges. Tell them about your sponges. I have, I have a sponge that is dual surface. I have a, the spongy side and then the scrubby side. That’s my favorite sponge. And then I have a big scrubby one. Like a like a large flat green scrubby one. Yeah, and then I have steel wool. Yeah, those are the three sponges you need I think instead of talking about whether or not there’s an expiry date to your dishcloth You need to be asking why you’re using a dishcloth in the first place I guess if you don’t want to throw sponges away because sponges certainly they have a they have an expiration You got to throw it. Did you know that Ava Mendez created a sponge where whenever the top layer is gone? That means it’s time to throw your sponge out so it stops The bacteria, bacteria, Ava Mendes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What can’t she do? I know she’s gorgeous. Gorgeous. She, uh, directed the Flame and Hot Cheetos movie about Richard Montanez. Or is that Ava Mendes? That’s Ava Longoria. That’s Ava Longoria. We’ll take that back. We’ll take that back. Ava Mendes still does great work. We love Ava Mendes, but yeah, she, she’s an incredible actress, great mom and created a cool sponge. Great in Too Fast, Too Furious. Um, as far as dish sauce though, I. Think you can just bleach them in perpetuity. I think no because after a while they start getting stinky and gross I say if you really just bleach them. I say I Sani that six months six months and throw away really enjoy cuz my kitchen towels last forever, but I’m not cleaning up hard messes Yeah, yeah soft messes. I use my kitchen towels for my coffee and that’s it And then sometimes if the cat poops on the floor and we’re out of paper towels, I’ll use a kitchen towel, and then I just throw that right away. Good. Your cat doesn’t poop in its litter box? He There’s a demon in his litter box, because we’ve gotten the self cleaning litter box. Oh, the Litter Robot? The Litter Robot. Congratulations! And every time it turns, it’s been about six months, and every time it turns, the cat poops. It’s a demon doing it. And so he goes over to the thing and starts hitting his little butt. He still poops in there mostly. And most of the time he doesn’t poop on the floor. But he does, uh, vomit. Cause he’ll start screaming and I’ll feed him. And then he eats it so fast that he throws it right back up. Sweetie mama. Why don’t you get one of those bowls that are like slow feeding bowls. Well, instead, I just give him a quarter of the food, and I stand there going, watching him eat the food, and then I dole out more. Parenthood, am I right? Alright, next opinion, please. I have to know. It’s killing me. Oh god, I want to tell you. Our Pringles just been deep fried gnocchi. Oh! I have to know. Oh, he did it! Thanks so much, love the podcast. Bye! Oh, he absolutely did it and he’s absolutely correct. The absolute madman. The absolute madman did it. Yeah. And they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not only that, so like, most people think of gnocchi. Gnocchi doesn’t have to be made with potato. Most gnocchi is made with potato. It’d be nice if it, if all of them were. I agree entirely. You don’t really get Parisian gnocchi and it’s just flour, or a gnocchi with ricotta. Give me the potato. I agree, I agree. Potato. So the way Pringle’s made is it’s dehydrated potato that is mixed into a slurry, shaped, and then reformed and like, fried. Don’t even call it chips, right? Yeah, they’re like, uh, potato crisps product, something. There was legislation about this. But if you’ve ever had a, I cannot remember what region it’s from, but a gnocco fritto, gnocco fritto, a lot of them are very, very thin and they do puff up almost like chippies. I had a plate of like burrata, prosciutto, they don’t, but I’m saying like that is the ultimate. If you were to go from the far left side of the ultimate pillowy boiled gnocchi, the softest gnocchi to the hardest gnocchi We’ve made those before, the pillowy gnocchi fritti. We did make gnocchi fritti. Yeah, it. But then if you go all the way to the right, the hardest, thinnest gnocchi fritti is a Pringle. You’re right, you’re right, you’re right. That is great. Well done. Well done. Slow clap. You should feel very good about that. You should feel good about yourself. One more, Maggie. Maggie, one more. Come on. Hi, my name is Shandri. I’m from Oklahoma. And I was just wondering if either of you have had Indian tacos. Hell yes. We ate them all the time growing up with the fry bread. And traditionally it was just like taco ingredients on top of this like fry bread. But sometimes it was like chili and other things like that. Um, anyway, one of Oklahoma’s greatest delicacies, and if you haven’t had it, I urge you to, Um, So thanks. Love the pie. Bye. Fry bread. Absolutely rips. Mm-Hmm. fry bread, tacos rip even harder. Yeah, they’re really good. And you know what we call a fry bread taco in Taco Bell parlance. Uh, what is a chalupa? It’s a chalupa. Yeah. Right. It’s like, it’s, it’s really fascinating because chalupa is a flatbread that has been deep fried. Right? That is, you know. what fry bread literally is. Uh, one of my best friends growing up was Navajo and his dad used to cook for us all the time. And he would make like menudo because so many from the Southwestern tribes, the food will be similar to a lot of like Mexican food that has deep indigenous roots. So we’d eat like menudo with fry bread all the time. And I absolutely loved it. And he would make, you know, he just called them fry bread tacos. Sure. Um, and. they’re utterly fantastic. Um, it’s tough because when we talk about like indigenous food ways in America and a lot of people like, I love fry bread. And it’s like, those were like born from rations. Sure. You know, they were given like lard and flour, baking soda and oil. Um, they had to make do with what they had, had to make do. Um, so it’s like a very complicated legacy as a lot of food is, um, It’s utterly delicious, though, and I wish there were more in California. Um, I’ve only had fry bread tacos or Navajo tacos once, and that’s because I made them. So I’ve never had like a proper one made by someone who’s probably made it for a few years. So I get the general gist of it, but I’ve never had one made by like someone other than myself. I went to a food truck once. They did a sort of like Bison, almost like a picadillo, like the just spiced ground bison in fry bread, like lettuce, cheese, tomato, very Taco Bell esque in that way. Um, and like, man, it’s just really, really good. I would kill for one right now. Also, Oklahoma, that’s another place that I once traveled to, starved myself on the flight, got there so I could eat more chicken fried steak and gas station breakfast tacos. I need to travel the U. S. more. This is my, this is my Achilles heel. I, I need to stop getting on these international flights. And just go to Poughkeepsie or something. What’s wrong with me? I agree. There is so much that you can like, we went to an El Reno, Oklahoma, the place that like maybe invented the Oklahoma onion burger. That’s so cool. And it was special. You know, it’s like one of the original diners that served the New Jersey sloppy Joe before it Stop traveling internationally and just explore all of the things we have in USA! USA! Go to Bakersfield, go to Fresno, eat all the Punjabi and Basque food that you can I want to! I want to! There’s culinary treasures here, man! Dearborn, Michigan! Eat the Somali food! Oh my gosh, there’s an incredible Basque restaurant in Bakersfield that I really want to go to Oh, it’s called like the Something Inn Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Sweet Willow Inn or something And they have like a famous dish that I really want to try but I don’t know what it is right now Is it the pickled lamb tongue? I don’t know Yes! You’re so smart! I haven’t been to that Basque restaurant, but I’ve been to another Basque restaurant. I wanna go! I can’t remember the name. We need to do a whole Bakersfield based podcast. Shippin up to Bakersfield, man! Love me some Bakersfield. Well, thanks so much for stoppin by Hot Dog is a Sandwich. We got new episodes out for ya on all audio platforms. On Wednesday, new videos out on Sunday. If you want to be featured on opinions are like casseroles, hit us up at 833 DOG POD 1. The number again is 833 DOG POD 1. And for more Mythical Kitchen, check out our other videos. We launch new videos every week. Woo! See you all next time.