ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everetts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so we’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast the kit kat saucy chocolate layer between crispy wafers could this sweet snack have a cheesy italian cousin today we asked the question is a kitkat a lasagna this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs the sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendy zada and today we are discussing if kitkat is a lasagna so this came why are you laughing because the answer is clear no it is not these are serious philosophical quandaries that we must take with respect so this came up because we did is a pop tart a ravioli sure and many people responded with pop tart sure ain’t no ravioli but a kit kat is a lasagna and that got me thinking i think a kit kat is at least more of a lasagna than a pop-tart is a ravioli because you got thin layers of some sort of wheat flour based dough stay with me or nicole yeah meal meal foia really cute beautifully milly vanilla hold on hold on wait milli vanilla they were great i don’t care that they they lip-synced yes yeah well you know i mean we all fake it sometimes all the time all the time what do you mean fake it till you make it yeah totally all right so a kitkat is definitely more of a lasagna than a pop-tart is a ravioli you have thin layers of a wheat based dough covered with a sort of sauce now i know you may object at the word sauce because kitkat obviously is solid chocolate yes right there what happens when you throw a kitkat in the microwave sauce melted chocolate that’s called chocolate sauce what happens when you when you put a lasagna in the fridge solidified into the same shape as a kitkat what i’m saying is a kitkat is very similar to a lasagna so much so that i’m willing to call it a lasagna i am willing to take the side of the radical lasagna inclusionists that is the radical left of the lasagna political paradigm goodness i am essentially antifa of the lasagna world we should buy that domain name lasagna antifa yeah do we have lasagna and tiffany is that available can we go get something to check so i’m willing to say it’s lasagna i think it’s similar enough and i think to me the temperature situation that is a compelling argument so let’s okay so you clearly think kitkat is a lasagna what about other layered foods what about a layer cake again is a layer cake a lasagna no because layer cakes are leavened past a certain percentage of density i think you have you must take density into account i understand now we’ve made kitkats on the show right we did the cinnamon toast crunch kitkat yeah it was delicious it was delicious and we frankly used an unleavened sort of dough or batter to make that pastry crust in the middle we sure did right and that turned out very kitkat like i understand the kitkat wafers are technically leavened however i think if you were to take a density reading of say something like a layer cake which obviously layer cakes are i would argue club sandwiches get me out of here all your cake is a club sandwich it’s bread there to me there’s no distinction cake is bread cake’s absolutely bread what banana bread uh josh that no i’ll bet uh stop it yeah there’s two kinds of bread there’s quick bread and yeast bread but both are breads cause they got bread in the name oh my gosh get out of here okay antoinette said nate said hey maria tunette what’s up girl uh your people candy fred and then she was like let them be cake so they’re not the same thing yeah and then they killed her because they were like bread is cake you [ __ ] not cake cake and bread are similar but they’re not the same that’s like okay you know what whenever you do this to me i hyperventilate yeah and my strategy in these debates is to get it’s like uh muhammad ali’s rope-a-dope right like you get your opponent breathing so heavy you can’t keep fighting in the later rounds yeah cause later you’re just gonna be so out of breath they’re gonna start agreeing to randomly i just think that’s my answer like mountain dew is technically a bolognese and you’re like yeah i guess i don’t know it’s got liquid in it so i suppose no i didn’t know first of all the kitkat layer the actual cookie layer is not similar to pasta dough would you consider would you consider a cookie would you consider a cookie and a pasta a sheet of pasta would be the same thing how thin this cookie thin you’re talking about a stroopwafel because that that’s sold yeah does this true waffle count as a cookie so i was gonna bring this out the other day because they’re sold in the giant bulk cookie bins at whole foods yes they are which if there’s one thing the pandemic has made me miss it’s um like emotionally intimate interactions with other people but the second thing is the whole foods bulk cookie bin oh my gosh now you can’t do it have you seen what whole foods is doing in like their hot bar yes of course they have like an attendant and you gotta be like yo give me a scoop of the brown do you know how much that sucks that i can’t steal little nibbles anymore that’s the worst i love this has stopped you from committing the smallest of crimes stealing an olive from the sicilian olive drum oh my gosh yeah don’t even get me started on the olives that i used to taste test quote unquote i would just i would stand in line buy the olives but by the time i got to the cashier it was like a three quarters of the way done i was just spitting the pits into my palm i get do i think i got called out uh i i got called out for doing that by a whole foods cashier once you did but i did it unknowingly i was buying like a box of cherry tomatoes you know you go in the whole foods produce section they have a little box of cherry tomatoes and it just had like you know four dollars it didn’t say per pound no well i didn’t see it but i also can’t read and i have an astigmatism so this is where the conflict arose so i grabbed this four dollar what i assumed was a box of cherry tomatoes why else would you like put them in a box yeah if they weren’t pre-portioned and then i was just snacking on them in line um at the cashier figuring like oh it doesn’t matter it’s four per box and the cashier like kind of looks at me and says like enjoying a midday snack huh and i thought she was just kind of like bantering with me and i was like oh yeah they’re good debaters you know and then i just kept eating him and she was like seriously are you gonna pay for those and i was like oh it’s sorry it’s four dollars per box so i figured i was just buying my rights to the box and she was like it’s per pound oh and i was just like i don’t know what to do and she was just like i’m just gonna charge you two dollars extra like she just decided i was like okay one lady i didn’t eat half this damn box i had like six cherry tomatoes it’s not worth two dollars but i was too embarrassed to fight it it’s okay whenever i used to go shopping with my mom we would both finish the cuties box you know the cute thank you mugs and then we just throw the box at the cashier like and we would take the wrappers and we would like fold them up and like put them in between like like the cans and stuff bad she taught me some bad habits i love my mom but like that’s a bad i would love to see a total tally of how i love how we have a sponsorship from from kroger on the youtube channel occasionally but i would still love to see a tally of how much we have stolen from grocery stores over the years with our little nibbles 300 unintentionally so what i’m saying is a stroopwafel as seen in the whole foods bulk cookie bin yeah i think would be thin enough to be reasonably considered a sort of pasta i don’t think that makes any sense at all pasta dough has no sugar in it well i mean this this comes down to sort of semantics issue of of what you consider to be like food proxies right the choco taco do you consider the choco taco to be a taco uh i think the choco taco is one of the most brilliant culinary creations of one agreed choco tacos are fantastic no i think it’s a confection that happens to be in the shape of a taco but like what actually separates a choco taco from a taco i’ve had some like i’ve had some very legitimate because i think the tortilla could be you know the answer here what is a tortilla exactly especially the fact that like flour tortillas there’s this big movement so many people think that flour tortillas are inauthentic and corn tortillas are authentic but now there’s this big movement especially from people who are from like sonora and baja mexico and just you know mexican-americans who grew up in the us were just like yo my family been eating flower tortillas for a hundred years like why you tell me they’re inauthentic exactly so if you say that like you know a flat you know disc of some sort of dough made from either corn or flour or possibly even an alternative can be a tortilla why not you know uh waffle cone dough batter is a kfc double down a sandwich because oh my god kfc double down one more layer on a kfc double down and that becomes a lasagna as a member of the radical left lasagna inclusionary group find us on facebook we’re mostly russian bots actually belarusian now if you follow the news who thought that we’d covered the belarusian autocracy problem in this podcast about kitkats i sadly did josh there’s no way on planet earth if i took two kfc double downs and i presented them to you like here have a slice of lasagna no i don’t necessarily believe that that’s lasagna i think the case for the double down being a sandwich is slightly compelling no it’s not a sandwich it’s just two chicken patties with stuff in the center but to me there’s there’s some element of intent to that and i think this is where maybe my argument for kitkat being lasagna is sort of moot because to me a kfc double down being a sandwich moot what does moot mean it’s moot’s a word ryan said moot today and i was like what are you saying right ryan’s in my head moot seems like a word means like kaput look up moot oh moot means uh subject to debate dispute or uncertainty ah my argument is moot i tell you you were just a moot person whenever i say say moot i think of mutabal the lovely lebanese or lebanese armenian eggplant dip same thing delicious uh anyways i think intent does come into play because they double down the intent is for you to eat it as a sandwich yeah but you don’t eat a lasag you don’t eat a kitkat as a lasagna exactly that’s why i’m now rethinking my radical design inclusionary it always happens that’s the thing you know they say when you grow up when you’re young if you’re not a radical leftist lasagna inclusionist you don’t have a heart but as you get older if you’re not a right-wing radical lasagna conservatory nest then you don’t have a brain that’s what i’m yep it’s what everyone told us growing up and we didn’t think it was true and here we are yeah that’s what they told me in grade five there was an interesting thing about the double down uh shout out to new yorker food columnist helen rosner who open my eyes the fact that the double down is just chicken cordon bleu absolutely it sure is which to me is really funny because when the double down came out so many people were like this is why america is obese which one shut the hell up with that art is so anytime we make anything that’s just like i don’t know fried chicken covered in chips which is like not even worse for you than just normal fried chicken it might be a little worse yeah i mean they’re just hydrogenated oils i suppose so yeah you got some but that’s not the reason america is obese the reason america is obese and i don’t even want to get into you know the whole argument about what obesity actually means for health and all that but like you know our nutritional problems can be traced to just like government decisions about corn subsidies and poverty and food deserts in the inner city it is not because of one person making a chicken sandwich sure the conditions to make that chicken sandwich and have a market from it could have arisen from national culture but like not one sandwich ain’t the reason come on neither no i don’t think one sandwich is the reason but i do think it is a product of the government oh yeah everything that we’ve created spam i blame spam spiced ham in a can it tastes too good is that what spam stands for spiced ham yeah a lot of people don’t know this smells spam is a portmanteau for spiced ham oh you love the word portmanteau poor montales you say portmanteau more than i say like you know why because it’s a jeopardy word uh i learned it from jeopardy hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythical heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole head over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability the intent of kitkat right is not to eat a candy bar oh god i got the two i got the tuna egg burps oh my god here’s the thing i ate a bunch of tuna eggs not eggs from the fish of a tuna but i scrambled tuna with eggs i’m trying trying this new macro counting diet it’s going really well for all of us it’s going pretty well for me nicole and trevor kind of just make fun of me a lot in the kitchen go josh no don’t put the yogurt in the eggs and i’m like i’ll go put the yogurt in the eggs who’s got protein i had to stop you from eating a funyun today that is true i only ate half a funyun i will enforce the macro power on you we normally like to be body positive on this podcast but now that we’re talking about radical left-wing kitkat lasagna inclusionary i think we’re just we’re all over the place ideologically josh you cannot sit here and tell me that you think a kfc double down is a sandwich and a lasagna is a kitkat you can’t do that that makes no sense your world is just all kinds of topsy-turvy hold on okay let’s look at lasagna and what it really means right we’re talking about the casserole style of lasagna because the intent of a kitkat is to be eaten as you know a sort of snack right it was invented in britain for like don’t ask me it was like invented in britain for people on their tea breaks and then they’re like break me off a piece of that kitkat bar and so they would break it and apparently there was a single tester in every factory where after a kitkat would come off the line they’d take it and make sure it broke cleanly which i thought was really stupid until we made our own kitkats and they didn’t break they didn’t break cleanly on camera and i was like i hate myself um when that happened and so now i understand we should have had a factory worker trevor is our qc for the most trevor’s qc he hats around here yeah he really does god bless him he’s mostly our swag doctor he yes he prescribed me 50 milligrams of swag after each meal okay you go you go pasta sauce cheese pasta sauce what is pasta sauce what is pot you keep saying this term pasta sauce like i know what you’re talking about and oh tomatoes the only sausage you don’t even let me talk the whole way tomato and or pesto and or white sauce and then you put veggie toles or meats and then you put the quesos and then you do that and then you do that like another like 70 times until you are satisfied with your lasagna creation nicole you’re a fancy woman right you like nice things i like i i want to sleep you tweeted the other day that you wanted the louis vuitton face mask i believe to prevent kovid but also look swagging that was i believe what you tweeted can you confirm this no i tweeted and i said that uh the world’s morality is rotten to the core and i cannot believe capitalism has done this and then in small font i said where can i get this yeah yeah yeah you’re a fancy lady like something i’m fancy yeah so i’m sure you’ve been to ellie’s coolest tip as fanciest italian restaurant best yeah correct once with my teacher i know like who could get in more than once right oh such a fancy place but did you ever have they had an oxtail i believe cassareche no where the pasta dough was made with cacao powder in it nicole that was chocolate pasta dough it had raisins in the sauce i’m saying there are sweet chocolatey pastas that exist in the italian culinary cannon why can’t what and i get that that’s fine did you actually have that dish it’s really one of the best it’s like truly one of the best pasta dishes really when i went there i had a saffron and yellow tea it was really good um but no i have had chocolate pasta before i’ve had nutella noodles and like all that stuff but like i don’t understand why you think kitkat was made with the intent to be a lasagna it wasn’t it certainly wasn’t but i think we need to look at is there a universal term it’s like to me the argument of like is meat loaf of sausage meatball what it’s forced meat is well it’s not it’s not technically forced meat but some sausages are forced meat so forced meat we’re referring to baloney and hot dogs where the meat is like fully blended and emulsified with other things so it’s kind of smooth versus other fresh sausages like bratwurst where it’s typically a coarser grind so sausage to me is an overarching blanket term for this like ground meat mixed with other things it doesn’t necessarily need to have a casing because then what is jimmy dean breakfast sausage or what is this mexican chorizo fresco even yummier even yeah oh that’s the tuna burps i’m so sorry that’s the yogurt oh my gosh it was fine until i added the yogurt to the hot scrambled eggs and then it swept so you got a little bit of yogurt condensation we need the macros nicole what i’m saying is is there an overarching term for a like layered carb carbolicious food that we can kind of apply to a kitkat i think there has it’s a confection it is a confectionary but there of course are like different subcategories within the confection right just because something is sweet doesn’t necessarily make it out of another category no i don’t think you should fall into the category of a casserole which is what a lasagna is i okay i may agree with that in fact now that i’m thinking about it i believe i do agree with that that kit kat is not a lasagna it sure is however i think there needs to be a let’s call it um an empirical term to describe a layered dish like that that i believe lasagna would fall under so i’m now switching my argument nicole kitkat is not a lasagna however both lasagna and kitkats are napoleon oh a napoleon kill fantastique kill fantastic i don’t know what that is i love napoleons that’s my favorite french trap group yeah so we’re talking about napoleon’s or milfoil they’re the same thing right which is the french pastry that is it’s puff pastry layered with cream puff pastry it’s either cream it’s either a creme pat or it’s whipped cream yeah so it’s it’s some sort of whipped cream but we’re saying it’s some sort of layered wafer 100 filling wafer filling wafer and that can be crispy or you know have you ever had a soft napoleon no i have but it defeats the purpose this is tough lasagna is not a napoleon but a napoleon but a kit kat is a is a cousin direct descendant of a napoleon i still think there has to be some sort of overarching category why no they’re finding these foods nicole that’s not the brain that is the reason that man overtook lizards actually i read an article and i think it was something about mushrooms no i didn’t read an article lucas yelled that at me during an episode but anyways that is the reason man overtook lizards is the ability to take different things put them in categories predator versus prey poisonous flower which is unpoisonous flower it is our ability to reason and categorize that has caused us to evolve i understand we are on the galaxy brain of evolution with this kitkat lasagna debate a kitkat and lasagna are so different they’re from two different planets women are from venus men are from mars kit kats are from neptune lasagna’s from mercury okay what was that book about was that steve harvey no that’s another book i think that’s like the 90 day rule or something still the same kind of like yes women and men are different buy my book to try and yeah try to find out why you’re still single that’s it yeah i think you feel bad about yourself buying my book yeah yeah the reason why you’re single is because you don’t understand women the reason why you’re single is because you don’t wait 90 days before you have intimate relations you know was that steve harvey’s whole thing yeah i’m pretty sure i don’t know his mustache is so intense what i’m trying to say is they’re so drastically different just because they’re layered foods does not mean that they need to be categorized together why does why do you have to say that i think you i mean nicole that is the whole essence of our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich some could argue that hot dogs don’t need to be catered or is it but i’m saying this like need to categorize is something that is as old as time and something that philosophers have tried like what is knowledge nicole like are we just staring at reflections of the shadows against the cave or are we truly outside the cave will you take the red pill plato plato sorry i was thinking about playing i was thinking about planets again i’m sorry if you’re thinking about planets and you wouldn’t be thinking about pluto that is pluto is so disrespected kit kat is not a lasagna pluto is not a planet pluto is a planet plato is a philosopher and plato could you make a lasagna out of play-doh yeah if you’re like playing no i’m saying like like edible like if you would you accept that as a lasagna if you rolled out like play-doh if my niece was like hey nicole i made a lasagna and it’s out of play-doh like that how recently have you eaten play-doh like actually yeah yeah or pretend to eat no like actually eaten i don’t eat play-doh you’ve never eaten play-doh no you know that’s the thing right the people edible yeah yeah like pica yeah well no i mean not even pika i mean if you think about play-doh it’s literally a good dough you’re supposed to play with so it is just made from dough ingredients i’ve eaten play-doh pretty recently when it’s not bad like a year ago why i want to try it what color was it red it tastes like red it kind of tastes like red no it’s it’s like really kind of salty but it didn’t taste dissimilar from if you made like a salty kind of cinnamon roll dough like it has that pliability to it yeah okay so i was like yo i get this no but if a kid was like hey i made this lasagna and the and the yellow sheet is the cheese and the white is the pasta and the red is the is the sauce and then i layered it on top just rolled it out and i’m like here you go of course i would pretend to eat it where did you find this kid i am surrounded by children put him back mine no don’t be silly i think i killed a lasagna’s a toy i came up with an answer final answer kit kats are not a lasagna and they’re not a napoleon or milfoy kit kats and all other layered foods are merely parfaits i am now a radical parfait inclusionist i have switched my allegiance from the antifa lasagna and i am now like a black bloc parfait what’s a black block i don’t know i’m repeating terms that i’ve read on the parts of twitter where i’m just like oh i shouldn’t be here i should be i should be doing my work but i can’t stop scrolling because algorithm is designed to make me keep scrolling but no hold on think about this parfait right the only thing we can say about a parfait it doesn’t have to be fruit doesn’t have to be yogurt it can be anything right if you want to say like you know i don’t know pink berry and they’re like our parfait doesn’t have any fruit in it it’s got like granola and some chocolate chips you’d be like parfait shout out pinkberry parfait’s one of the best yogurt confections out there but i think a parfait can just be anything layered so i would argue that a lasagna is a parfait and that a kitkat is simply a parfait especially when you melt it it can’t be temperature dependent a parfait is not even in the same grouping not yet not yet because the people haven’t been woken up i would sheeple listen to me sheeple parfaits are more like lasagnas than they are like kit kats do you understand yeah okay a lasagna is a parfait we’ll we’ll say that lasagna is a part of it what what makes a lasagna parfait layered liquidy but liquidy that’s temperature dependent uh what do you mean some said no i’m saying with the cheese when the nicole when the cheese solidifies in the fridge because you’ve cut a slice of hot lasagna versus sliced cold design yeah yeah i got a lot of rest a little bit yeah let it rest i mean you take a lasagna straight out the fridge and you slice that that is solid there ain’t no liquid there that liquid is are you eating it that way though i might be eating it that way why does that if i throw a kitkat in the microwave does that mean that’s fair okay hold on my position on the radical left lasagna inclusionism and my black bloc parfait inclusionism i think i’m just a classic like trotskyist triflist i believe all these foods are trifles oh my god no way oh my god are you kidding me you were just you were just talking about layered foods like it’s your job well that is what you do no a trifle and a parfait are the same thing i agree with you on that trifling parfait same exact thing just different delivery mechanisms different stuff in between whatever fine whale lasagna and where does lasagna come in where does kitkat come in you can make a kitkat parfait you can make a kit kat trifle you cannot make a kitkat lasagna you can’t actually you can make a kitkat lasagna you take the kitkat and you put it on the bottom in the middle you put chocolate sauce and then you put marshmallows and then you put another layer of kitkats and then you put m m’s and then wild card chocolate covered gummy bears which are one of my favorite confections of all time and then you put strawberry sauce and then you put some crumbled up pop-tarts and then you eat it i’m starting to rethink my position on my radical antifa lasagna inclusionism and also my black block parfaitism and also my trotskyist triflism and i think now i’m just a malice s’moresist and i believe that all these foods are technically no i i see your point about things certain things being unable to be categorized i don’t think certain things having a need because yeah i suppose what is the need to categorize like my one of my arguments we’re never going to fully flesh out the hot dog thing but i like to drop in little nuggets one of my arguments for the hot dog you know possibly being a sandwich who knows if it is is if you had hot dog on the menu like if you went to a cheesecake factory i’m not saying a cheesecake factory but a restaurant with a menu that’s large enough you know like a diner sure like if you go down to like you know the noho diner or something they got that big old menu and if you see like omelets pancakes sandwiches on the menu to have a hot dog underneath the sandwich blanket would totally make sense because you’re eating it with your hands and spread okay so that has a reason to be categorized i suppose kit kat has no reason to be categorized as a lasagna whatsoever or we have no reason to categorize all these layered foods because that is not what makes them similarly useful to us and we don’t need to categorize them to evolve as humans but then how do we maintain dominance over the apes we don’t you know all these movies where there’s like small little animals kind of like swarming people because everyone talks about the spiders could rise up because they they outnumber us like eight million to one movie with the spider eight like a freak spider no no the big spider harry potter lord of the rings both of them richards had a gun oh starship troopers b is that a big well yeah they were they were they were they were what were they called ryan big spiders yeah yeah they were they were like arachnids they were uh magnets they were bugs starship troopers actually really incredible metaphor for just like um american style fascism it’s a really fun really fun movie not fun it’s a great movie casper van dien come on the podcast so what have we decided so there are all these like very silly kind of philosophical leaning questions out there like you know is pop tart ravioli that we like entertained pretty fully i feel like we fully fleshed that one out in its entirety and decided maybe but with rusty kitkat being lasagna there’s no like need to try and categorize it as such i agree and i think that it goes even further away from the pop-tart ravioli paradigm so first i was willing to entertain with my radical antifa left-leaning lasagna inclusionism but now i don’t think so you kind of opened up my eyes with the fact that there’s no reason that it has to be categorized like that and it’s certainly not a napoleon it’s not a trifle it’s not a parfait what it’s not a cake because it’s unleavened or at least minorly leavened cakes ain’t crispy i don’t know i i think it’s not a lasagna kat is not a lasagna but what is baked ziti tony soprano’s kid’s favorite dish nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitter verse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] can you do a uh can you do a beatbox version of that nope it’s like it’s like no that is one of my biggest fears getting caught in a beatbox battle because i listened to so many beatboxing videos shout out to swiss beatbox on youtube one of the best i’d say the best youtube channel out there in fact all of their youtube channels pale in comparison to swiss beatbox such amazing content from all around the world um but i will just make little beatbox noises because i’m listening to so many videos so i’m just walking around the office going just sounding like i’m farting from my mouth and anyways what i’m saying is first up we got ashleymg2487 cheap garbage foil wrapped easter eggs are my favorite chocolate that’s cool i think okay nicole how do you feel our jewish version of this is i mean i grew up eating easter eggs it’s guilt guilt is cheap garbage foil wrapped chocolate coins i love guilt you love you i i hadn’t had guilt in like a couple years and then i went back to my grandma’s like maybe i was 25 a couple years ago and she like had some hanukkah guilt that i’m sure was from like 2000 oh yeah was it like bloomed and white it was bloomed yeah it has that like kind of fuzzy look on the outside of it and i tasted it and i was like this doesn’t even taste like chocolate it’s just kind of chewy it’s the worst chocolate it’s the worst wrapping but it’s so familiar to me that i love it yeah i just realized that that wrapping doesn’t exactly hold like lend itself to freshness oh absolutely not the opposite actually there’s just constant airflow into your chocolate the chocolate bends yeah yeah yeah there’s so much stuff added to it that said so much of what we love especially from candy is just like nostalgia i agree you know and so yeah i’m with you i love garbage chocolate all right hey underscore it’s underscore me underscore isaac i used to hate al dente pasta but now i prefer it over normal pasta because it isn’t flaccid flaxseed he said flaccid the word is pronounced flaccid okay um because it isn’t flaxseed thank you i love my pasta very al dente sometimes it’s so al dente that like it honestly has a crunch to it and a lot of the times when i make pasta for like my mom or my dad they’re like why is this pasta crunchy and i’m like because it needs to be but uh i love my pasta al dente almost to the point where it’s like undercooked and i think i just like texture i like texture too but to me pasta i almost just want the squishy this i think is where our palettes diverge the most is that i love overcooked pasta not to the point where it’s like mush but i just hate like when it’s so al dente that you know when you pinch this is how i learned to cook pasta from rachel right when you pinch the noodle in half if you can still see solid opaque white yeah and it’s not done i absolutely hate that i hate when you get that little bit of raw flour taste and what’s really funny one a lot of people use the term al dente just to mean like undercooked pasta but like you cannot cook fresh pasta to true al dente no this is the thing that i’ve heard italian cooks say that i i truly believe so there’s a lot of people who are like cooking fresh pasta for like 30 seconds then pulling it and then really gets al dente and it’s like no it was fresh it’s supposed to be like supple and tender yeah i’m talking about box pasta yeah yeah have you have you been to um felix not yet i’ve been funky’s restaurant no this is like one of la’s fanciest restaurants and everyone was so hyped it came out i haven’t been i’ve never had the process so i can’t say but it famously got left off the la times 101 best restaurants list by jonathan gold and he said something like the chef and i clearly have a fundamental difference in how we believe pasta should be cooked and he always shades the under and i was like yes yes the best food critic in the world r.p jonathan gold an absolute legend but the best food critic in the world agrees that some pasta can be undercooked to me that’s like a thing people are afraid to say is that this pasta is undercooked because someone’s just gonna go oh no don’t do it that’s how italians like it we should go to felix yeah mushy pasta for the win at carter bh underscore arby’s sliders are elite level fast food did my dad write this does my dad have a an instagram i don’t know about we have so much family history with arby’s my my mom and dad are their first date at arby’s and that relationship ended real well so so arby’s i agree arby’s is the most and also shout out to friend of the show bill oakley who’s an an arby’s fan even though the simpsons had a uh there was a famous joke that was like i’m so hungry i could eat it arby’s josh the fact that your parents had their first date of arby’s means that you’re here so it’s actually a blessing i’m so glad you’re here a lot of lawyers got paid uh for divorce settlement and you know i ended up on this podcast i’m glad things happened that your parents went on their first date to rvs because i would have never met you that is true yeah shout out to arby’s for that also arby’s is just delicious beef and cheddar give me that uh arby’s is my dad’s favorite restaurant and sometimes whenever he goes to kaiser permanente because his pancreas is bothering him he makes me get an rv sandwich and take it to the kaiser permanente you’ve had to make arby’s deliveries to hospitals so what we’re saying is armies sponsor the podcast please brought to you by beef brought to you by nicole’s dad’s pancreas okay uh lin underscore 369 underscore gc japanese mayo is the best mayo it’s good mayo my favorite mayo is the one you make by hand yeah my favorite mayo is the one you make trevor buy from ralph’s because it’s best for this best foods we have so much mayonnaise in the free in the fridge right now yeah i and now that i’m counting my macros you realize how much macros is in mayonnaise oh my god it’s just a macro factory to be clear i’m only doing this counting macros thing for like a month because i went so far off the deep end yeah one weekend of just only eating like literally hot dogs pizza lasagna and italian beef sandwich and ice cream like a whole course of homemade ice cream so we’re just trying to kind of clean out the pipes a little bit metaphorically and physically um but japanese mayo became really really popular from a bunch of like kind of hipster-ish restaurants in l.a though it’s called cute cupid or qp i say cupi i feel i’ve heard like people i trust say cupid i don’t know but anyways it’s the the japanese mayo brand with the baby on it and i believe it has more egg yolks and msg in it and so everyone is all up on keeping mayo i just don’t like the taste of it as much as something like best foods i’ve heard dukes is the best but we have never had it he loves dukes bill oakley yeah he gets like dukes shipped to him dukes and coleman’s mustard which is delicious i’ve never had dukes that said best foods is like just fine for me yeah it’s a good base yeah yeah just mayo vegan mayo is actually really delicious as well i don’t do vegan you don’t you don’t taste the difference i don’t i just don’t do it okay all right at white guy 651 casseroles are the best way to get all your daily food groups in one meal yup fruit agreed fruit tomatoes oh did you know that tomatoes are a fruit don’t even start with me young man don’t even start no i i’m a big fan of just the one pot uh dish like literally for lunch i’ve just been making eating this giant stew i prefer sk stews to casseroles um because i just like the wet i’m just i was raised on stews yeah yeah uh give me that wet wet a horse there’s some chores in this house nicole did you know that my mom is gonna be so proud of you every time josh speaks farsi i like record it and i send it to my mom and my mom just says good boy merci shala merci um let’s see don’t call me caitlin says my sister mixes ranch and sriracha and calls it sir rancho oh my god she’s so clever i know that’s pretty funny and sounds good nicole just started mocking it so i jumped in because i’m a sheep i you know bullies they’re not leaders they’re followers and i jumped in and i’m sorry that that is very funny joke and i like sriracha and ranch thank you at joespencer24 internet chefs should talk about food safety more they’re the ones teaching people skip [Laughter] okay let’s let’s talk about food safety i think most people are looking at the wrong things when it comes to food safety right so people are like oh my god you’re chopping vegetables on that raw meat board and it’s like i’m putting the vegetables in a stew that i’m cooking for four hours it doesn’t matter but then i understand why those rules exist in restaurants that you have to keep everything separate because you know those are institutions that have government oversight and all that but like in your own home it’s just like best practices so there are still people who are say you know rinsing their chick their raw chicken in the sink which is incredibly dangerous the raw chicken rinsing in the sink problem got so bad in in england that they had to stop selling raw chickens for like months at a time they would only sell whole raw chickens in a bag that you like cooked in the bag oh my gosh and they put out a whole their their health services put out a whole psa that was like don’t wash your chicken because when you do droplets hit the raw chicken and then just spray all over your kitchen and people will then just wipe it down but the problem is people don’t do that you’re not sanitizing every single moment i wash i wash my poultry and i wash my beef but i always always always clorox the crap out of it yeah after i’m not the chicken like my surrounding area my mom taught me to clorox thing wait why do you wash your chicken i just do it’s bad i’m sorry i think yeah food safety is ah that’s a whole mixed bag yeah i just like to wash my chicken because sometimes there’s blood and i know that blood is a part of an animal and i just don’t want it in my food and i just wash it and then i spray my whole area down with clorox because i am healthy this is why we can’t talk about food safety because no one is a food safety like government agencies have just come out and said like don’t wash your chicken any harmful bacteria gets cooked out of it whatever i talked to the head of a national national resources defense council about food safety and expiration dates here’s another thing expiration dates on your food absolutely mean nothing okay okay okay i said that one time and the food was expired a day after and i and i ate it it was a it was a cookie and i ate it and there was mold in the cookie yeah but the day before it probably had mold too yeah right it depends on the story on the storage conditions on where you put it in your cabinet if you put it in a warm damp space it’s going to grow mold if you keep it in a cold you know dry space it’s not going to grow mold but the dates mean nothing yeah no i i agreed i agreed up until that point where i almost poisoned one of my photographers yeah well that’s not good yeah just like you know smell things but also most visible mold growing on things isn’t what gives you the real bad foodborne illnesses which we’re talking about like e coli we’re talking about listeria we’re talking about salmonella if you eat something that’s moldy like you’ll kind of just throw it up and be fine that that is what i learned from uh interviewing an expert on it because apparently i used to be a journalist and used to write stuff about that the one thing she said was like never buy bagged salad mix because bagged salad makes once you seal up a package like that and the bacteria can just multiply yeah and especially if you’re eating raw greens like that like i mean so many of the e coli outbreaks some are the soup plantation uh near my hometown the person just died from e coli eating spinach there so many different you know bagged dull lettuces have been linked to listeria outbreaks it’s so scary so yeah like most foodborne illnesses will come from processing like that yeah cantaloupes killed like 50 people a couple years ago uh prepackaged ice creams were another big one bluebell had that huge outbreak oh yeah well that’s because someone was licking them what someone was looking to voodoo i don’t think that was the outbreak i know the video you’re talking about the person look at the blue belt did they go to jail they need to go to jail i think they did get like they need jail time austin j baldy regular milk tastes gross unless with cereal or has some sort of flavor additive well you’re talking to a girl that has lactose intolerance but boy oh boy will she drink a gallon of lactate no problem does lactate taste different to you it’s sweeter it is sweeter right sweeter i think it’s like they add sugar to it just make it more better tasting i used to think i don’t know in my head i was like oh they crush up the enzymes that makes it sweeter which is totally false but like i love the way regular milk tastes a lot i do too i like milk flavored milk yeah that’s my favorite milk i hardly i like only keep milk i’ll buy like a quart of milk every week in my apartment just like put in my coffee or use in cooking yeah um but the other day i was just like i’m thirsty and i don’t want normal water so i just poured myself an ice cold glass of milk probably for the first time in about a year i just like chugged eight ounces of ice cold whole milk and i was like ah yeah sometimes you need to do that and i know it’s like a like a vegan thing and like a vegetarian thing but like i will one day i feel like i’ll be you know like grown up enough to not drink milk but i love milk and i can’t help it i i have nothing respect for vegans and vegan antagonism kind of pisses me off when people are like eat some bacon then you’ll be less and you know that whole thing is super annoying nothing about respect for vegans but one of their arguments often about not drinking milk is that you know what other animal in the animal kingdom drinks another animal’s milk to feed fully grown adults that’s crazy why would we do that i’m like yo there’s a lot of things humans do that other animals don’t like driving cars and writing poetry and stuff so like it’s it’s kind of hard to treat you like i don’t know i never seen no deer drive a hyundai and write a sonnet uh so you know i think we can make some exceptions critically for humans and what their development has been and i don’t know if drinking milk is good or bad for people it seems like the government’s bad it seems generally not great right but it’s a it’s a treat it’s a treat what a nice treat tree i have every day and also the god milk campaign uh is the single greatest advertising campaign in history the white mustaches white mustaches there’s one of white mustachioed michael jordan on my elementary school uh library wall there you go always remember that at chrissy underscore 401 ranch is the only wing sauce ranch ain’t the only wing sauce certainly the best wing sauce one of the best it is well you’re a blue cheese gal oh hundo pizza you need to okay i already said this one time but i’m gonna say it again you need to date someone who likes the opposite sauce on you with your wings so whenever you get ranch and they get blue cheese and they give you uh two of each like one of each like you just pass it over so you have two of your favorite and they have two of their favorite it’s so funny how i diversify all of my sauce dipping so much if i get fries i’ll have like ranch sriracha mayo ketchup a barbecue sauce honey mustard if i have those available to me i will just dip in all of them all of them repeatedly yeah not at the same time i love that diversity but hot wings are a thing where i have you know i’ve tried dipping them in honey mustard and anything like that yeah nothing comes anywhere near as close as ranch and blue cheese yeah i am team ranch officially i prefer the herbs and the freshness to the bites of the blue cheese however i also believe that blue cheese is technically ranch we need to debate this we need to do we need to have a debate the debates is forthcoming winter is going ring the debate bell winter is coming right that what i never i never saw game of thrones i got into season three and then i was just like i’m bored of this scenario there’s lots of burbidge there are naked burbs garbage burbs what are burbs the burbs oh boobs burbs and on that note thank you what note burbs thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich we’ve got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythical chef or anhedizade with the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pics of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen we will see you next time i’ll see you later at the orbeez [Music] thanks for listening to this episode of hot dogs as a sandwich and hey before you go we wanted to remind you that season 2 of stevie’s podcast best friend’s back all right is underway this season expands on stevia and negan’s friendship from last season but explores all new themes and ideas yeah episodes will feature an open conversation with a gynecologist who just happens to be nakeen’s sister the ins and outs of eel sex and a deep dive into the most embarrassing items to be found by security at the airport things get crazy this season so be sure to follow best friends back alright on apple podcast spotify or wherever you get your podcast all right i like that me too all right all right all right