Me want cookie, me want eat cookie now. Yeah. But are you gonna have that cookie for dessert? Me, me not. Me not know. Me not know who I am. Me need, me need, more self-actualization. Me be more introspective. This is A Hot Dog Is A Sandwich. Yeah. I put ice in my cereal. So what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast. A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. The show we break down the world’s biggest food debates. Me, me host Josh Scherer. Me host Nicole Enayati. That was pretty good. That is Cookie Monster. For those of you that grew up without cable. I started a public. Public, no. Public broadcasting service. PBS, I believe. So for those of you that had cable but didn’t watch. You could get it with rabbit ears. You couldn’t watch the, the poor people take– Correctamundo. Correctamundo. Um, I started to slip into Yoda a little bit there. Yeah, it’s okay. It happens naturally. The pipeline. Cookie me eat. Um, we’re talking about cookies today, right? And we need to tell y’all how this start, because we had an opinion casserole where somebody was complaining about their father because we are now licensed therapists to everyone. That’s right. Their father does not think cookies are dessert. And at first you were, uh, like, ah, flummoxed by that. I’m still a bit gobsmacked and I felt like I immediately knew where they were coming from because the nature of what is dessert, hell, what is a cookie, is actually a lot more complex than we think. So much more complex. And also the opinions of all of old people are also more complicated than we think. And so there’s actually why? Why do the old people have more complicated subject matter? I wouldn’t say complicated, but I will say there are generational divides on foods for sure. Right. Mm. In terms of your attitudes. Okay. Towards foods. That’s fair. Um, for instance, I’m, this is not, I love you, Susan. Um, but like, I went out, so I went out to a nice restaurant mm-hmm. Uh, with Julia and her brother. All of us are within, you know, a, a 4 year age gap. Mm-hmm. And her mother, who is, you know, older who birthed them, she’s older and we ordered all of this food and one of their courses was like a, you know, fancy $14 bread course. You know, Parker house rolls with whipped miso, pumpkin butter, what the hell? Okay. You know the type. And so they bring out the first couple courses, which are like a raw seafood preparation. Susan don’t like eating raw seafood, which is a generational divide. Okay. Fair. Right. Yeah. Uh, we’ve talked to, um, uh, our, our guy, our guy, Joel Stein, who is a Gen Xer, and he said the biggest generational divide in food for him is your opinions on sushi. Interesting. Okay. He’s like, kids these days grew up with sushi, but he’s like. For me, it was a new thing. And then for my boomer parents, they were like completely against the idea of raw fish. They thought it was weird was was the introduction of sushi, raw fish and rice always, because I would like to think that that might have been how it started in some places, but then it started maturing to the salmon tempura California roll and all that. Yeah, yeah, sure. But I mean, that was still the essence of sushi was like raw, raw fish. Rice especially started in insular Japanese communities. But anyway, so we’re eating these raw seafood and. We’d ordered this bread course and Susan kept going, where’s the bread? And we’re like, oh, well, like it’s coming. And we asked to serve her, where’s the bread? And he goes, oh, we, I was gonna serve that with like the salads and whatever that’s coming next. Because she would think that the bread would be the first thing. Correct. And the bread should already be on the table when you sit down. Oh, for free. Well, I mean, not even necessarily for free, but if you have to, it should be free if you have to buy it, the bread should be free because those are probably the restaurants that she. Ate at growing up, right? I miss those restaurants if you wanna, yeah, you go to the Outback Steakhouse, man, like I miss free bread. You go to an Italian restaurant and they got either bread or breadsticks or whatever, olive oil, oil and Bic allic. Remember that. But this is a very normal thing for me. So it’s just these little divides. And then when you go into like what is dessert, right? What can you expect reasonably from dessert? That is another generational divide, and this has happened yet for hundreds of years. We’ve seen this generational divide happen, and I love this story. I, I am geeked out on this. Say it. Okay. Okay. Say it. Go crazy. Go wild. So the term, the term dessert. Right. It’s literally French. Right. It’s de desal and it comes from the verb Desi. Right. Which literally means to, to deser. Correct. Right. And so this all goes back to like French aristocratic courts about 300 years ago. Mm-hmm. In the early 17 hundreds. Mm-hmm. Where they would have these big lavish banquets and they just switched to what they called, uh, service Russ. Yes, that’s right. Or Russian style dinner service. That’s, that’s right. That’s right. And you can track a lot of this through history. So they stopped going from these like medieval Anglo French inspired dinners where they would just have gigantic roasts on the table. And you’ve seen Game of Thrones and they’re all eating or whatever, but Service Roost was more of an individually plated dinner service. Right, right, right. And they had, we would have like all of these, uh, coarsed out things. Uh, you have a list of what the service roost is. Should I, should I let ’em know? Let ’em know. Tell ’em what the courses were. Okay. So you would start with L’Aperitif which is a pre-mixed drink to stimulate the appetite, often accompanied by a small snack or an ous bush. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then you would go into your appetizer, also known as entre, a light starter such as soup, salad, pate, or seafood. And then principal and my French is so good. So good. Um. It’s the main course, the main dish offer, uh, often featuring meat, fish, poultry with vegetables and the sauce, and then LA homage. This is the cheese course, a selection of cheeses, sometimes served with bread and fruit. Then le deser, a sweet course, which can include pastries, tarts, ice cream, or chocolate dishes. Then Le Cafe, which was a post meal coffee, usually an espresso shot or two. Then finally led digestif, a strong alcoholic drink like Coca, Brandi meant to aid in digestion. So what is that? Uh, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 courses. Yeah, with the, with the rus, the Russ plating. And so when you hear people talk about like ma progressive tasting menu, whatever, it’s generally based off of like the French right style. And also this doesn’t include things, what were called like. Reme Reme. Okay. Sorry. Reme. The ettes, which are like the interval courses in between that you could be served things. So palate cleansers, even when we look at what if there was a three course meal, what would the three courses be? Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. What? What the hell are you talking about? Salad and breast sticks, geez. Right. Um, it would be an appetizer. A mane and a dessert. Yeah. And the mane is normally called. Entree An entree. Yeah. Right. But if you look at the French service, entree means appetizer because entree literally means to, to enter. This is how you start the meal entree. But so many of the things that we even take today, if you go to a Chili’s and they have a appetizer, entree, dessert special, which they always do. Includes a drink. It includes a drink. It’s great, a margarita to be exact, but like you’re still using literally a French aristocratic term for their Russian style royal court dinner service. Right? Right. At the freaking chilies today. So all of this stuff has trickle down effects. It’s ingrained in us. It really is. And the idea of dessert. Right. Is part of that trickle down? This course used to be called, or the fruit, they were like, this is the fruit course because the fruit, so the fruit would be in the dessert course or in the cheese course. So the fruit would be, there was no such thing as a dessert course. It was called the fruit course. And then it wasn’t actually until the French Revolution Oh, where they started renaming it. Dessert because they just shuffled around the, the, the Jacque bins were like really obsessed with. How language affected the politics of the people. So interesting. Okay. So for whatever reason, like you used to have these dessert, like almost like these giant, uh, art pieces. So a lot of that like sugar work stuff started in the 17 hundreds in France. Very cool. A hundred percent. And so people, you know, pastry chefs would make these crazy. Like it was still called the fruit course. So there would be these crazy glass sugar sculptures that would be like holding apples and that’s incredible and stuff. And then they sort of, as sugar got cheaper, as flour got cheaper as you know, um, uh, community ovens got more accessible. Mm-hmm. They started to change the nature of, you know, hey, we’re not doing crazy glass sugar work. Here we are making these pastries and stuff like that. Right. And serving it as a dessert course. So it kind of switched to something a little bit more so it kinda switched sensible and then. And then it just continues to democratize. We even see this style of food being common in the 18 hundreds in America. Mm-hmm. It is a bizarre amount of middle class Americans. I’m getting a lot of this from the Book Revolution at the Table by Harvey Levinstein. Mm-hmm. Great book. Um, but a bizarre amount of middle class families In 19th century America had servants. Uh, that tracks and there ended up being something literally called a servant shortage. Mm-hmm. As people started to, uh, get more economically, you know, mobile. Um, but a lot of them were like immigrants coming over from, say, Eastern Central Europe. Okay. That were working in the servant economy. And so you had middle class families trying to like, replicate. These seven course service a La Rus, French dinners, ’cause that’s what high society still met in America. Mm-hmm. Was pointing towards the French. And so then dessert in the 18 hundreds became an American tradition as well. Interesting. And so now here we are. So what does that have to do with chocolate chip cookies? I’m so glad you asked because, because cookies, the idea of it, right? Like a. Etymology of cookie comes from the Dutch cook. Mm-hmm. Sorry. Dutch people. KOEK is how it’s spelled. Mm-hmm. There’s an MLA somewhere. No, I dunno if there’s an umla that’s really depressing. I fricking love a well-placed mla, loves an umla. And then the IE or JE in Dutch is like a diminutive form. So it’s little cake. Little cake. Little cake. Mm-hmm. Um, but you know, baking a little sugary nugget of pastry mm-hmm. That goes back to like seventh century Persia. Right, right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So again, what does that have to do? So what, what is the divide that you think, where it says, why do you think cookies are not a dessert? Or do you not think cookies are not a dessert? Because I think cookies are, are a dessert. A hundred percent. I think they’re a dessert, but I have a lot of empathy for people who think that they wouldn’t be, but they’re sweet treat that you enjoy typically after a meal. So by default, they’re desserts. I don’t, I, I feel like you need, I’m becoming the most annoying reply guide. Debate me, but no, I, I think you need data to back that up to say, typically enjoy it after a meal of, of America’s cookie consumption. Our whole lives, our whole lives we’ve been told don’t have a lot of sugar before dinner. You’re, you’ll what? You’ll spoil your appetite. Exactly. Okay. So Oreo, uh, or say Oreo is like the most popular cookie in America. Okay. Fair. That, that might be the case. I’m not sure if it is. Okay. What percentage of Oreos do you think are eaten after a, after a meal? I, I’ll even say after dinner. ’cause I only think that, I think that dinner is the only, uh, meal that gets a dessert. I know like Lunchables have a little candy in their, you kids will get a sweet little treat at lunch. Right, right, right. But I think, I think dessert is a function of dinner. Dessert is a function of dinner. Okay. So are you saying that an Oreo is a snack? Yes. I think an Oreo is more commonly associated with being a snack. So you would compare Oreo and Chips Ahoy. The little ones you get in the blue package, the six pack of em. They’re like the chewy ones. It tastes like the good chemicals. Oh my gosh. I love chewy chocolate chip chips. Ahoy cookies. Did you know this about me? No. Oh my God. I could shove them in my mouth at all times. They taste so they’re chewy like mochi. They’re so chemically. My problem is, so you mean to tell me those kinds of products you would lump in with Cheetos? Um, as a snack? Um, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Absolutely. Because whatcha talking about out? I’m gonna start going crazy here. Um, there is, you ever read medieval recipes? I’m sorry, say that slower. Do you ever read medieval recipes? Medieval do you mean medieval? I say medieval. You say medieval? Mm-hmm. Like meta evil. Me. It’s, it’s spelled me. Oh, you. Just because it’s spelled with one way doesn’t mean you have to say it that way. I say Weeds day in February as well. Yeah, I’m sure you do. I’m sure you do. Spelled like that. Uh, we were just talking about, I haven’t gotten a diagnosis for what this is yet, but I’m trying to figure it out. One day. I think you’re great. Whatever you are, you’re great. But if you read like me, medieval recipes, it’s medieval. It’s not medieval. It’s me. It’s not in the middle of the evil. No, it’s medieval. Anyways, I’m sorry. I don’t agree with you. For months. It’s like mischievous. It’s not mischievous. It’s not mischievous. No, there’s no I in that freaking word. It’s mischievous. It bothers me. You bother me. What were you saying? Yes. Have I seen medieval for the sake of this conversation sake, medieval recipes. Yes. You look at a medieval recipe for like a lamb stew and it’s like, sure, sure. Almonds, raisins, apples, sugar, cinnamon. Stew it with the meat. That’s Yes. Okay. That’s like if you replace the meat with rice. That’s rice pudding. That’s a dessert. Yeah, but there’s a savory component to the meat. There’s savory, like rice. Is rice sweet or savory? It’s nothing. It’s just bland. But like why is meat savory? Because it has MS. G. Naturally occurring glutamate that we equ. It’s not terrible. Ums. That’s pretty good point. It’s pretty good point. We making good points. We equ umami with savory typically. I don’t know where to pivot from here. ’cause I forgot God. Oh yeah. Didn’t you didn’t think I was gonna pull out the monosodium glutamate, did you? He never thinks about it. I always do. My general point that I don’t think there is as strict a divide between what a sweet food is and what a savory food is. So when you’re talking about a Cheeto and uh, an Oreo, sometimes you might be craving something savory and craving something sweet. Okay? But sometimes I’m craving an apple. Sometimes I’m craving an orange. They’re still fruit. An apple and an orange are fruits. They are sweet. Sure. But sometimes I’m craving an orange. Sometimes I’m craving a carrot, and I go to check a fridge are both sweet. Sometimes I’m craving an orange. Sometimes I’m craving, uh uh, no, I’m never craving celery. A cucumber. I’m, I’m saying like, okay, if you walk over to our little snack bin Okay. In the office. Yeah. And you just go, I want a little, a Milano no. And you see, like, you could see a Cheez-It and you could see a Milano and you could make an easy choice between those, right? You could be like, those are two vi viable snacks. Right now they are two viable snacks. But I will say that they fall into two different categories. Certainly different categories, but so does a, a chewy granola bar and a Milano, despite the fact they’re both sweet. I would consider those both to be sweet snacks. Sure if there’s sweet San, but I’m saying like there’s not as strict a divide. So like that’s if you were to eat an Oreo in the middle of the day. Mm-hmm. I don’t think you’re eating, that’s not dessert. Like dessert. You’re eating a snack. Okay. You know, that just happens to be sweet versus a snack that happens to be savory. See, I think especially because sweets have been around for thousands of years. Mm-hmm. And the term dessert, we don’t really see until literally 1789, whenever the revolution was. Well, well my, my problem is it’s, it’s, I think it’s the way you’re raised a lot of the time, so. I mean, like after Shabbat dinner, today’s Friday. Mm-hmm. I mean, whatever day it is, you’re watching this, it’s that day, but today it’s Friday, right? Mm-hmm. After we have, you know, Shabbat dinner, we’re gonna turn down the table and then we’re gonna go, we’re gonna, what is it called? Like recess to like the TV room? Yeah. Yeah. My mom’s gonna bring out tea, she’s gonna bring out desserts, and she’s gonna bring out fruits and she might bring out cookies. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But for you, if there were only cookies, would that change the, say there wasn’t tea, it’s still dessert. Say there wasn’t, there’s always tea. There’s, there’s always tea. There’s always tea. I’m telling you. It’s how you’re raised. No, I, I a hundred percent agree with you, but that makes this whole thing even more interesting. But the cookies, so, so if the cookies were, uh, divorced from, from this, if the cookies were gone, if the cookies were never there, it would still be dessert. If the cookies were added in the, the meal would still be dessert. Interest. So for, for you, the way you were raised was like, anything that is more sweet than sugar content dessert. Yeah, like real dessert. Anything that is a high sugar content is considered dessert, but, but only served after dinner. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because you could have, I’m sure when, you know your mom has a tub of cookies now. So you went and you grabbed one at, say, 3:30 PM home from school. Just kidding. She never been on me. But you know what I mean? Like that wasn’t, you weren’t like eating dessert at that time. Dessert is predicated on the fact that you just had, so, so the, the cookie from the tub at 3:00 PM is. It, it’s not dessert. It’s a sweet treat. Mm-hmm. But do you consider a little sweet treat to be mini dessert, like you’re cheating God, like you’re cheating the system. You’re like, Ooh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, no. No. ’cause I think that’s not the way that sweet treats have been treated. Throughout the entire world, throughout history, like a little piece of chocolate. Okay. Here, let’s do a, let’s, mm-hmm. Let’s do a lint truffle. Okay. A lin. A lin truffle. Okay. We got these little lint strawberry cream truffles. Oh God. Oh my God. Injected directly to my vein. Oh, did mask quick. Sorry. Go ahead. You know what, what is, with a side note, why are, why are you and I so obsessed with fake strawberry flavor? Why is it so good? What kind of I, the strawberry qui was so big. There’s some sort of like, like. Like fricking alien brain, like response. You and I have to fake St. Strawberries. Maybe we have a parasite that feeds, there’s like one pheromone or chemical in fake strawberry. We have cats. We have cats. That’s it. That’s it. Have, it’s the having the cats. IFI fricking love fake strawberry. Okay. Sorry, what was I saying? Lint tr, you’re talking about a little piece of chocolate. A little piece of chocolate. Before. Before, like after lunch. Uhhuh, what is that? That’s a little piece of chocolate that you ate. It’s not like dessert. I don’t think so. So I think I tell myself if I have a lin truffle after lunch, it’s like a little dessert. It’s not dessert. If you ate a little dessert, if you, if you let me ask you then if you ate, uh, say 20 minutes before lunch comes, right? This happens a lot. You’re on a shoot. Lunch isn’t here for 20 minutes. Bag full of nuts. But is that an appetizer? Yeah. You, you really, you eat it back full of nuts. Go, Hey, enjoy your appetizer in cold. No, an appetizer iss mozzarella sticks. Well, you had to be in an appetizer. Were you in an appetizer family growing up? No. You were bored. You just, it was just food. It was. Slop. Literally, like when you would go out to eat with your family, would you guys get like mozzarella sticks and diet Cokes? Oh, no. Never. Never. No, no, no, no. That’s That’s a bourgeois. That’s literally a bourgeois thing, right? The idea that there’s a meal before your meal. That’s crazy. I know. And then there’s a meal after your meal. A meal, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s nuts. But the way that you are talking about the handful of almonds, because lunch was late as an appetizer. You can now justify any single food that you eat to be within the Chili’s. Appetizer, entree, dessert, dichotomy. I’m at work. I’m at work. Any sweet thing you eat can just be a, a dessert for the previous meal that you eat. Well, I’m gonna, I’m not gonna have dessert after breakfast. But let me say, most breakfasts are dessert. We had a meeting today. They had a bunch of just coffee cakes. Oh, that was crazy. It’s a cake. It’s dessert. Well, they also dessert. They had bagels. They had bagels and cream cheese. So youi, if you, if you got a little nugget of coffee to take, take half a bagel and cream cheese. Oh, I totally had a little piece of coffee cake after my bagel. So you have, I just negated my own Oh my gosh. 1000% after I had my delicious poppy seed bagel. Yep. I went with a little fork. I hope, you know, I’m the person at the office that cuts all the desserts into like fourth. That’s, I, I’m too. Yeah. Okay. And I took a little fourth of a coffee cake and I just ate it. I’m like, okay, that’s my little dessert. That’s what I told you. One with the goo on it. Oh, the cookie dough goo. There’s some sort of cookie dough. Goo on a cake. I saw it and I said Uhuh. Yeah, I didn’t let, I tried. It wasn’t. I had the coffee. I had the coffee cake. Yeah. Yeah. But see, like I had a little bite. I had a little bite of something sweet after my savory breakfast. But do you think you could reasonably call that dessert? Instead of just a sweet, just a little sweet treat that she ate. We could, we could, if there’s somebody out there that’s, that’s just saying, Hey, if you’re saying sweet treat, that’s synonymous with dessert. Sweet treat is synonymous with dessert for me, but not to this person’s dad who said the cookies are dessert. Well, I don’t care about this person’s dad. I’m talking to you, Josh. We’re going back to Susan. Right? So check it out. Anytime Susan comes over for dinner and No. So, Julia, Julia, my lovely wife, she grew up in a household that ate dessert every single night. And the big end. So cute. A big East coast ju thing. Mann’s coffee cake. Oh yeah. Yeah. All the Mann’s family of products. Uh, I grew up with that too, but we didn’t eat dessert every night, obviously. But like that is a thing for her. Like the meal is not complete until there’s been some sort of sweet thing. And I think for Julia in the way that she was raised, uh, which is reflective of how her parents were raised, right? Mm-hmm. It has to be some sort of like. Cakey thing or pie thing, or a fruit based thing. It’s almost more, but not a cookie of a composed dish than a cookie. Oh my goodness. This is so interesting. I know. So I’m, I’m picturing this person, I don’t know where they grew up, this father Uhhuh that like, you know, just gets a cookie on his plate and he is like, well, there needs to be like, where’s like the, the cream? Where’s the ice cream? Where’s the like, you know, sauce, whatever. So extravagant. I agree. But also if you’re talking about like. You know, uh, something I really respect, by the way Julia grew up is like family dinner, family time, as like a ritual is really important to them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That’s how, that’s how my in-laws are too. They love to eat together all the time, and you have to be there at a specific time. But even when you said like, there’s all always tea, right? Oh yeah. There’s all always tea after the meal. Yes, yes, yes. That’s an important ritual. Family time, right? That is, yeah. And you literally DeVere the the dinner table, right? Right, right. And you go to the family room, right, right, right. And have your tea in your dessert. It’s. It’s, uh, a continual, a continuation of the dinner ritual. Right. And so for this person, a cookie could be seen as like disrespect. Yeah. Breaking that ritual. Oh, okay. ’cause you’re just eating with your hands mindlessly as opposed to like being intentional and like talking. But see, guarantee you, if that mother effort had a bowl of jello, he would’ve gone. Yes. That’s dessert. Guarantee. You really guarantee you. My mom used to make jello with pomegranate seeds inside. It’s awesome. My mom’s jello was the bomb. She hasn’t made it in like 15 years. It’s not in vogue anymore. Very sad. Gosh, Josh, are you? I’m just like, I’m just like thinking because I think my whole life like dessert. Was like a bad thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was something. Mm-hmm. Like, like sweets equal bad. Yeah. And it’s unfortunate, but it’s obviously I’m older now. I’m 30, now. I’m like, I’m a, I’m breaking up with that part of, yeah. Of growing up. But my thing is like, I think a cookie equates dessert because it’s a sweet treat. Yeah. Is it like not the most high end is the effort. Not necessarily a hundred percent there. Yeah. But I think it still qualifies like cookies and milk. What a fun little thing to do for dessert with the fa cookies and milk milk’s. Favorite cookie Oreo? Yeah. I, I equate cookies and milk. I’m trying to think back to my, like, richer wasier friends growing up. Mm-hmm. Like you would finish. A basketball practice at 4:00 PM mm-hmm. And dinner wouldn’t be till six 30 or seven. Mm-hmm. You’d go over to their house mm-hmm. And their mom had cookies on the counter as, uh, an ent me Uhhuh. Right. Not, but like, as a little snack. Right. Okay. I’m thinking about cookie jars in like white people’s homes. Yes. White people love cookie jars. White people love, you know, who else is the Kardashians Love cookie jars. There is definitely a socioeconomic argument to be made there that they’re trying, you know what I mean? What, adopting the practices of what they view as white, rich society. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And having cookie jars. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I dunno. Do you have a cookie jar in in your home? Is that like a big what? I don’t know. No, that’s what I’m saying. I never had a cookie jar, but like the concept of a cookie jar has been around forever. Like, not forever, since I haven’t went into the cookie jar. Are we. Associating cookie jars with whiteness. Uh, is that a, is that problematic? Can you google that, Jamie? Yeah. Why do white people love cookie jars so much? You know what song I love? You know the song I go The Can’t Keep My Hands Out, the Cookie Jar with the Gym Class Heroes Guy. So I’m thinking like the house that I got a lot more of my food culture in Uhhuh, the Capture, American kitch. American Kitch says this is upsetting, but that reads white right. I don’t know. Something about cookie jars. I would say so, yeah. Something about cookie jars are just like white, rich, white people that I went to school with, just like you did. Yeah, a hundred percent. Um, I will say the house that I got more of my food culture from than my own was a GU household. Yeah. And, and, and you think about like Indian sweets, right? You know? Oh, sure. Uh, like they are. They never have cookies, juice, one typically eaten after a meal. Not, I cook like so many Indian sweets, which I love, love, love. Um, like, um, uh, Gaja. Hava, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. It’s, it’s like carrot. It’s carrot that’s cooked down. Yeah. Yeah. With like bunch of sugar and stuff. Yeah, sugar. But so much of it is just like. Some sort of flour, some sort of like ghee butter element, uh, sugar, nuts and fruit. Okay. And it, and it comes together in just all these beautiful amalgamations. No, my question is, would deeps mom who we’re talking about Yeah. Would she ever buy like pre-made cookies from the Indian market and she would just pop? Absolutely. Never. I don’t believe you. No. But she had jars of like savory, like snacks and stuff that she would also make. And so she had a lot of jar of food she never bought to see. ’cause my mom used to buy like little, um, like rice, rice flour cookies. Yeah. Or little like chickpea flour cookies from the store. So like those cookies, I equate those as cookies as I do chocolate chip and ginger snap. Yeah. And everything else. Yeah. We didn’t even really get into like what is a cookie and what isn’t a cookie because I think this is a macaroni cookie. You, when you say macaroon, do you mean coconut macaron? Well, no, but like for real. Do you mean American coconut macaron? No, you mean macaron? Macon. That’s the French president. Macon. Is he still the president? I think he’s still there, man, because Maureen Lapin, she got, she didn’t win the referendum or whatever. Anyways, a macaron, um, whoa, no. What are they? Dessert? Confection. Confection. Mm. They’re too delicate to be a cookie. Mm, just egg whites and almond flour. Mm. But then is a coconut macaroon not a cookie. Uh, you know what I mean? Yeah. It’s the same dish. I think they’re dish. I think I’ve been just so desensitized by those damn coconut macaroons my whole life. Especially during Passover. I love them. I love a coconut Macon. A Passover. Passover. Yeah. Yeah. Manches just makes disgust. No, no, no. Manches, which is like the, the Jewish brand. It’s just the one that they carry, carry in stores. Um, they sell these just, it’s like a giant Pringles can, inexplicably filled with coconut macaroons, and I don’t. I mean, there’s no flour in it. No, no. It’s So that would make it, it’s egg white, coconut, and like sometimes corn, corn syrup. I actually bully Maggie every time she brings ’em for Passover. She like brings ’em to the office and I go, ha ha, you brought Mac. Said she’s not here today. They’re so good. But I literally bully Maggie all the time. Maggie, if you’re listening to this, sorry, I bully you about your. Tin of macaroons. You bring every PE off. If we, if we, if we reframe this whole cookies aren’t dessert debate. I have heard people say this phrase multiple times. What’s that? Fruit isn’t dessert. Sorry. I, I, I have sciatica and I have to readjust. Fruit is not dessert. That’s something that people will say Fruit is dessert. I agree with that entirely. I love fruit for dessert, and it’s from the, the fruit course literally turned into the dessert course I every time. Well also, all of these, I’m sorry to interrupt you. Go ahead. I’m so sorry. Well, to be fair, I feel like the Mage Dessert Cafe and Digestif has all condensed into one course being dessert. Sure. Correct. Yeah. If you’re, they’ve all condensed if you’re going on the Chili’s, appetizer, entree, dessert, trichotomy here, which we base everything off of. Yeah. So the entree, the, you know, the, the amus B that turns the appetizers, the entree and the plat principal, those have now few, you know, like you kind of mash things together. Your entree can be a pasta. Or it can be a steak or it could be crab rangoons or, no, that’s your, that’s your appetizer. No, but have you ever gone out with someone who like, yeah, crab rangoons isn’t Maine. Have you ever gone out with people that get appetizers as they’re Maine? Oh, yeah. I mean, that’s, that’s, those people exist. I, I don’t like ’em. That’s, that’s me. I’m only ordering from the small plates. I just, there’s no stop bath. But yeah, like you’re going to Chili’s, it’s like, no, I’m not gonna get the like chicken breast with Mushroom and Swiss. Yeah. I’m gonna get 19 orders of southwestern egg rolls, something fried. Have you had the Triple Dipper? Yeah, the Triple Dipper combo. Have you gotten the, the, the mozzarella sticks, all three different kinds of mozzarella sticks, bro. The Nashville hot mozzarella stick. Mm. I, last time I was at Chili’s was Valentine’s Day and there were national hot mozzarella sticks. Yeah, I know. I went with my friend to go gossip a little bit. We drove like 45 minutes in the rain and it was the best time we ever had fb. Fb, you’re gonna chilies on Valentine’s Day. Fb. Fb. So if we’re talking about, what does that mean, front to back, Jamie, you, you, you’re picking up what I’m putting down, right? Yeah, yeah. Yes. What does that mean, fb? So our cookies, dessert, Jamie, tell me what it mean. No whisper right now. Fb. Oh, you’re filled with grease. Your hands are slice. You do that. Yes, almost exclusively. I think it’s really important to you do that. Maintain intimacy. Yeah, but then also you can still throw down at dinner. I think it’s really important. So, cookies. Cookies. Oh, the thing I didn’t get to say and I need to say it. No, sorry. Go, go, go, go, go. Cookie and tortilla are the same word. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Cookie just means little cake in Dutch, and then tortilla just means little cake in Spanish. And then what does torta mean? From what tort Tell people what torta means. You got FB with the tortilla, so you can really go throw down at the Chinese buffet. Uh, Google it. So, Josh, are cookies a dessert? Yes or no? Ultimately, yes. Dessert is more of a ritual than the type of food that you eat. Fair. You know what I mean? So if you are a a, I can only seem a boomer dad, who doesn’t think that cookies are dessert. That’s not dessert for you because dessert is like a feeling, it’s a feeling of finality at the end of a meal. Sure. A little extra effort. Yeah. Personally, I, I’ll eat an orange, I’ll cut up fruit as dessert and that’s a perfectly fine agreed. Fruit for me, the most common dessert I eat in my house is pineapple with tahin. Cute. You know, but it’s, it’s the ritual that makes it Cookies are dessert and I don’t care what you have to say, boomers. Life gets busy, but that doesn’t mean you have to put your language learning goals on hold. With Rosetta Stone, you can practice anytime, anywhere, whether you have five minutes or an hour. Yeah, I’ve been doing the old lunch and learn. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know how sometimes I, I put on shorts and walkin shoes and sunglasses. Yes. Your hot girl walks. My hot girl walks. So what I’ve been doing is I’ve been practicing my Spanish with Rosetta Stone on my little mobile app. Love it. And I’m just walking out in Publix going. Ola, very good, and thank you so much. And then sometimes people will answer me. 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We’ve heard what you and I have just say. Now it’s time to find out what are the wack are around on out there in the universe. It’s time for a little segment, what we call opinions are like ca casserole. Josh, before we get into that, let’s play this or that. Cookies. Are you ready? Let’s do it. Okay. Chocolate chip or snickerdoodle? Snickerdoodle. What? Okay. Snicker. Doodle or ginger? Snap. Ginger. Snap. Ginger. Snap. Or oatmeal raisin. Oh, heavy hitters. Oatmeal raisin. Oatmeal raisin or peanut butter? Oatmeal raisin. Oatmeal raisin. Oatmeal raisin or sugar? Oatmeal raisin. Oatmeal raisin or m and m. Oatmeal raisin. I’m an old lady. Oatmeal raisin or shortbread? Oatmeal raisin. I’m like a golden girl. Oatmeal raisin or kitchen sink? Cookies. My favorite oatmeal raisin. Oatmeal raisin or double chocolate chip. I don’t care about the chocolate. I want my raisins. Oatmeal raisin. Oatmeal raisin or thumbprint Cookie. Get your hands off my cookies. Give me the oats and the raisins. Oatmeal raisin or gingerbread? Gingerbread. Gingerbread or fortune cookie. Can my gingerbread tell me the winning lottery numbers? I don’t think this one can then gingerbread still. Okay, and finally, gingerbread or black and white cookies. Oh, can’t forsake my Jewish heritage. Black and white cookies. Do they actually taste good? No, but shout out to bubby. Up there in the sky. She would want me to eat it. Black and white. Cookie. That’s it. Chocolate chip or sinker Dole Chocolate chip. Chocolate chip or ginger? Snap. Chocolate chip. Chocolate chip or oatmeal raisin? Chocolate chip. Chocolate chip or peanut butter? Chocolate chip. Chocolate chip or sugar Cookie. Chocolate chip. Chocolate chip or m and m. M and M. M and m or shortbread? Cookie. M and m. M and m Or kitchen? Sink. Cookie. Oh my God. I love kitchen. Sink cookies. Kitchen sink. Kitchen sink. Kitchen, sink. Cookie or double chocolate chip. Kitchen sink. Kitchen sink or thumbprint? Oh, kitchen sink. Kitchen sink or gingerbread. Kitchen sink, kitchen sink. Kitchen sink or fortune cookie. Honestly, I love a good fortune cookie. What? But I’m gonna go with kitchen sink. Cookie What? Kitchen sink or black and white? Cookie kitchen sink babes. What’s in a kitchen sink? Cookie? It’s, it’s so, it’s like pretzels and like potato chips and like candy go and chocolates, golin. You don’t want a cookie, you just wanna blend all your snacks together? Yeah. I’m a goblin. You just found out. I get it. Proves how much you know, what’s a goon to a goblin. Back to you, Chris. All right, Jamie, crank up that first opinion. Let’s listen. Hey guys, this is Mason from Florida. Long, long, long time Mythical Beast. Oh yeah. I’ve been watching The Mythical Kitchen since Josh started the channel and listening to Hot Dogs since it is a sandwich since the very first episode. Oh, gee. Oh, thanks. Uh, really controversial take. I know both you guys are gonna attack me, but I don’t really care. I’m ready to talk. Uh, avocados are disgusting. Oh, and so are pickles. Oh, I love you guys. Don’t roast me too hard. You dumb. Stupid baby Mason. What kind of name is Mason? Now? I love the name Mason. Um, I love the name. Mason’s a good name. These are two of my favorite foods and I’m so offended right now and I fear if I, if I talk about this, I might get too emotional. So I’m gonna let you handle this ’cause these are my favorites. I love names that are after professions. You know what I mean? Like, like a pickle, like Mason Cooper, Pickler Fletcher, uh, Fletcher’s a, a job. Yeah. You make arrows, right? What? Fletcher is somebody who makes an arrow anyways. Uh, avocados, I, I, a hundred percent I love avocados. It’s like one of my favorite foods in the world. I under, I really understand why people would find them disgusting. It’s like, it’s meant to be mushy. It has this kind of subtle bacterial flavor to it. Okay. But it’s nice in a way that I just enjoy. Um, but I could get why people would be sensitive to that. Same way if people dislike papaya or jackfruit, a lot of these tropical fruits, if you didn’t grow up around them, they can have this sort of like bacterial twang mm-hmm. Pickles, that’s just wrong. But again, it’s, the pickles are, they’re fermented, it’s, it’s bacterial. Like there’s a chance that you might be some sort of super taster that you might be sensitive to things. Um, but no, I, to me those are like, gimme an avocado and pickle sandwich. Yeah, I’d love that actually. That’d be my ideal sandwich. When people say they don’t like pickles, I’m curious if you mean pickled cucumbers or, I think that’s a yes. Like generally when people are saying they don’t like pickles, they don’t like pickled cucumbers. Sure. But I wonder if they’d enjoy like pickled carrot, a pickled green bean, a pickle rad. Maybe you’d like a lacto fermented pickle instead of, or like a Persian pickle instead of your classic dill. You know, you can hit him with, have you ever had a Persian pickle? Nevermind. I agree. Is this FB related again? No, it’s not fb. Okay Mason. Thank you for the call. You are valid. We will not roast you. Thanks for listening. For as long as you have. It’s really nice of you. Hey, hot dog friends. Wanted to leave my newest, uh, crazy cooking take, and that is, uh, replacing celery with iceberg lettuce. Hold on. Yeah, cook it down. And, uh, celery’s like bitter and I don’t like it. But iceberg lettuce basically serves the same, uh, purpose. You know, it’s just flavored water, so you’re gonna be putting it in like soups and stuff. So it contributes more flavor than other things in a mirepoix like, uh, carrots, which don’t break. I love this down water just. Chunky. So like celery, mostly waterborne iceberg lettuce waterborne, but tastes better. So yeah, try it out. I would love to, no. Why? This is the type of unhinged stuff that I live for. Just use a green pepper. No, but green pepper. They have such a strong metallic tang. Like I, I love green pepper. I love a Cajun Trinity And food, like a sofrito situation. Mm. Lettuce in place of. Celery makes me uncomfortable. I don’t like it. Okay. So if you like look at soups around the world and how people build flavor outta broth, so many things coming out of Western Europe are kind of based on a mepa or a sofrito or mm-hmm. You know, whatever. Um, but have you ever had like. Some my favorite Korean soups, the main flavoring are like a winter radish and a clam. Yeah, sure. You know, and I love that. I love that RA broth, Gosu k Gosu, right? Yeah. That’s awesome. So I would love to taste what an iceberg flavored broth would be, because I do think iceberg people say it has no flavor. It does. Iceberg has an. Awesome flavor. It’s just a very crunchy, clean flavor. It’s clean, it’s a little bit nutty, especially if you get to the heel of it. Mm-hmm. I think it’s almost got this kind of like watery, fresh hazelnut flavor. I see. Like the core of it. Yeah. I see what you’re saying. And use that instead of, ’cause to me celery, I, I like celery in, um, in like a light broth. Okay. ’cause it kind of gives a, a bit of ancy, a bit of green to it. Okay. Which I enjoy, but I don’t love the taste of celery in general. I love celery. Yeah. Why not use the sweetness of, of iceberg? I would pickle. Iceberg lettuce. Is that weird? No. Well, I mean, he’s, so he talks about both of them being primarily water, which is absolutely true. Yeah. But like, uh, celery has a much stronger fibrous cellular fiber structure. Right. Yeah. It’s more fibrous. Yeah. So if you cook down iceberg, I’m really curious to see what it would turn into. I don’t wanna know. Probably similar to if you just cook down cabbage, right? Yeah. No. Well, no. Cabbage is more fibrous too. Definitely more fibrous. But like when you really cooked down, so you shredded cabbage, have you ever cooked down like romaine or something? Yes. You have? Well, I mean, you, you, what about like a spinach? You know, you’d cook down a lot of other greens that you would both eat Raw cooked arugula is great. Really Never cooked arugula. Never have I ever cooked arugula. Yeah, man. Okay. Toss arugula into a stew. See what happens. Don’t knock it till I try it, I guess. People eating raw collared greens, that’s weirder. Sure. Raw collared green wraps. Ugh. Ugh. Gross. I would do a light. I would do a light. Um, blanche no there raw. You ever go to WAN or Whole Foods? They got colored dinner now. Have I been to wan? Yes, I’ve been to wan. Are you renewing your WAN thing? No, absolutely not. Never going back to that place. I’m not allowed. Oh, there was an incident. Oh, hey y’all. This is Camille from North Carolina. Um, so. I have a question. Yes. Have, have an answer. Have either of you tried Lu Fisk before? Oh, okay. If so, would you classify it as a biological weapon under the Geneva Conventions, or No? Thanks. So funny. Bye. So she’s in North Carolina. Is this l This one Li Fish. Lu de Fisk. Yeah. It’s Lew Defi. I’ve seen it. My introduction to Fis was an episode of King of the Hill. I’ve never eaten it before. Mm. Which is, oh, I have, I have eaten Lu Fisk. We did it for the show. Probably six years ago. Wow. Really? But the Luta Fis that we got, I don’t know, I just kind of ordered off the internet and threw like a seafood broker or whatever. It was kind of like a bag. Might have been Santa Monica seafood actually. Oh, okay. Um, but anyways, it, we ate it and it was kind of good. It reminded me of Gefilte and then somebody that had, like, had proper luta fis in Minnesota. It’s this like Scandinavian thing that is now big in like the North Dakota, Minnesota. Big scandal areas in America. Okay. Uh, they ate it and they were like, this isn’t real Luta Fisk. So I don’t know if I just had, you know, well, what is Lu tell the people what Luta Fisk is. I don’t know the exact origins. You’re Googling it out here, but I think it’s, it’s lie fish. Yeah. You preserve fish with lie. What is lie? Lie is an extreme basic solution. Right. It’s a strong alkali solution. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it’s on the opposite side of the pH. It’s anti ceviche. Right? It’s on the opposite side of pH from an acid, which can also, it’s just antimicrobial. Uh, and you can, you know, preserve fish for years. There’s that, there’s also like, I dunno, it’s spelled like Ha, Carl, it’s aic. Shark. Shark, yeah. I think Lutfi is, is roughly the same, right? There’s a whole episode of King of the Hill about a new. Church pastor. That’s a woman that moves from Minnesota to Arlan, Texas. And she brings Luta Fisk. And it’s a whole, they don’t like her because of it. Yeah. Not ’cause she’s a woman. Well, it was both. Oh. And then Bobby eats the Luta Fisk and then takes a crap in the bathroom. Mm-hmm. And that it smells so bad ’cause it’s a lus poop that he tries to light a match. But he accidentally burns down the, uh, the church. The church. Oh. Yeah. I’ve never seen a full episode of King of the Hills, that Bad. King of the Hills. I think it’s the best show ever made. I, it’s the only animated show like Bobby Hills that I really fell, fell in love with. It’s the only what animated show that I’ve really fallen in love with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s my purse. I don’t know. You as someone who loves animated shows, I need to watch. I think the animation makes me a little uncomfortable. What does some animation make you uncomfortable when you watch it? You mean the actual like drawing style of it? Yeah. Some drawing sign. Yeah. Styles are so uncanny Valley to me. I’m just like, Ugh. Mm mm Like I can’t watch Daria. ’cause it’s the same style of animation. Oh, you’re right. I can’t watch Beavis and Butthead. Same style of animation. Yeah. Well, Beavis and Butthead. Same creator. Mike Judge. Yes, it is. Mike. Mike Judge. But I love Mike Judge stuff other than his animation. Sorry Mike, I know you’re listening. Super fan copy. Love Mike. Judge. I do love Mike. Judge Dodgeball. Idiocracy is one of my favorite movies of all time. Like, well he was, was Mike Judge Office space too? I think he was. I’m not sure he was office space. Yeah. Silicon Valley. I can learn to love the animation. Mike Judge, next opinion. I’m gonna look up Mike Judge’s. Hey y’all. I love the show. Uh, Greg from Philadelphia Calling. Why is the Lunchables Kraft Heinz pizza sauce so delicious? And why can’t I find it? Jarred, canned, replicated anywhere. You know who loves the sauce? Thank you. Huh? You know who drinks the sauce? V. Really? V. She, I’ve seen her like, suck the sauce out of a packet. Um, I was never raised on Lunchables, so I never got to savor the flavor. So unfortunately I’m not the best person to talk to about this, but I can only imagine how deeply tomatoey and processed it is. Mm-hmm. So. I wish for you to get that similar experience. I would say look into pizza sauces instead of spaghetti sauces, like jarred pizza sauces. Mm-hmm. If you go to like a Walmart, try to get like the great value, or if you go to Aldi, go to like get the, get the label from the grocery store, you’ll get close. I feel like. Uh, sugar. The answer is sugar. Yeah. It’s the 80% sugar. Sugar. It’s sugar. It’s just sugar. Yeah. You’re like a hummingbird. Ultimately. You just want the sugar. Oh my gosh. I get it. It’s good. Speaking of hummingbirds, I’ve had three hummingbirds come into my house within the past week. They just come into my house and they like. Explore my house and then they leave. You’re, you’re either going to get rich in the next couple months or you’re sorry you’re gonna die. Oh yeah, that’s, that is an ancient Greek O if I’ve ever seen it. It’s them common birds circling around you. Yeah, literally. It’s so crazy. They like literally come into my living room and they circle, circle, circle for like min, for like five minutes. Mm-hmm. And I try to like get them out, but they just can’t. Don’t get ’em out. Don’t get ’em out. Then you’re definitely gonna die if one of the hummingbirds has a snake. And it’s little talons. No, no snake. Then you’re actually about to found a great nation. Okay, I’ll keep an eye out. Yeah, you should plant the flag right there. I’ll keep an eye out. Yeah. Okay. So Mike, judge, he, uh, yeah, Daria was Mike Judge as well. Like I didn’t know that. I told you, I told you it’s the animation style. I, one thing about me is you don’t like Mike Judge animation. That, that sucks. I, I love it, but I love him and his storylines and his ability to create wonderful stories. The animation just turns me off. But you know what? Maybe that’s just a hump I need to get over. That’s something I need to just grow out of, and that’s okay. I know. I, I think Bob’s burgers is the same for me. Love where I’ve never, I love the animation style. It’s, I love. I love so many things about it and I’ve just never been able to get into it. ’cause I think the animation is just see. So maybe, so maybe you, you and I aren’t so different. Matter of fact, after all, we’re actually not that different. Look at us. Look at us all. One more opinion. One more J one more opinion. Hey Nicole. Hey buddy. Uh, I feel like I’ve always been told to dump out that like stagnant liquid that comes in, like, uh, canned beans or canned fruit vegetables. Oh, interesting. Eating the food. Uhhuh. Uh, I don’t really know why, but every time I open up a can, my inner child who like followed rules would say, hey, don’t drink that. Mm-hmm. Um, so my confession is I take a sip every time. Oh, and you know what? You’re crazy. Canned tuna water. Uh, not the oil. That’s a bit much. Mm-hmm. And not the solid white albacore, but chunk light tuna water is delicious. Okay. Yeah, buddy. And I don’t know if I can recommend it because like Mercury? Oh, you’re fine. If you’re already in tuna, yeah. Just try it out. Thanks. I don’t want to. I, yeah, I’ll do it. Ask. Screw it. I’ll do it, man. Next time I open up a can of chickpeas, I’m, I’m ripping some of that aquafaba, I’ll rip some of that liquid. I always rinse the liquid. I always do too, but I don’t, I’ll tell you what, I went to a kind, a barbecue spot in Goleta, California, and they had like barbecue baked beans and you could just taste so much canned liquid in it. Mm. It was just cans of beans plus barbecue sauce. Sounds foul. Indeed. Um, and it, it might have been at a place called Santa Barbara Chicken Ranch too, looking back. I think it was a damn Santa Barbara Chicken Ranch. I dunno what that means. Oh, come on you people out there know that. Anybody who’s been to the Santa Barbara Chicken Ranch. Come talk to me about it. Mm. Um, I’m sorry, I can’t. But ever since then, I’m just like, I’m rinsing the liquid off the canned beans. ’cause that tastes so bad. I always do that. I’ve always been taught to do that. I think it gets rid of the gas too. I don’t know. My mom’s done it, so I do it. Yeah, we should, we should do something about, we should do something. We should do some actual chefy testing on this ’cause Hey man, you’re in charge. You do whatever you wanna do, buddy. I’m right behind you. Yeah. I support you a hundred percent. But for this person it sounds, um. You’re just, you’re curious like a cat. You just want to experience all the things in life. I think you have a little rebellious streak against authority probably. Um, and maybe you struggle with impulse control. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Drinking tuna water, not normal. We’ll say that. Not normal. You know, I recently saw a TikTok where the can says, do not throw away the oil on the top. Do not throw away the water on the top. Mix it in with the tuna and it like rehydrates it. Have you seen this? No, but that makes sense. Yeah. There’s some, some cans will say. Please do not empty out the liquid, out of this, out of this tuna can because it is like all the flavor and stuff is in there. I’ve never had that before, but I’d love to try it. Love to try it. Well, Nicole, we have that opportunity to try it. I don’t know why I thought that was a lead into an outro. Uh, anyways, we’re done. We’re gonna stop it. I’m so hungry. I need to eat some lunch. I’m so hungry. Cheese. God, I’m hungry. Do you have lunch today? Uh, no. I have half a leftover lunch from yesterday. Oh. They got me Mendocino Farms. Inside, I’m actually eating, uh, some of, I believe Trixie’s sandwich. Oh. That I put my goop meat in. It’s sick. I put my goop meat in Trixie sandwich. Anyways, thank you so much for stopping by A HotDog Is A Sandwich, you got new episode out every Wednesday. 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