Ugh. I hate the way water tastes. What do you mean? Water tastes like nothing. Oh, does it? This is A Hot Dog Is A Sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah. I put ice in my cereal. So what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast. A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates. I’m your host Josh Scherer. And I’m your host, Nicole Enayati. And today we are trying to get me to drink plain water, which I absolutely refuse to do. Oh my God, Josh, I don’t know what you’re on this morning, but you are so funny even with like, what? I hate water. Ugh, water sucks. Um, thi this is based off of somewhat real life. People around the office seem to think that I don’t drink any water. I would argue, and I have argued mm-hmm. That I am drinking more water. More water than anybody. Than anybody else. Yeah. In the office, partly because of an oral fixation where I need to constantly be lifting something to my mouth. That is very true. You do have an oral fixation. 1000%. I should, maybe I should just have like a toothpick or like a piece of straw, like a dust bowl farmer. That is so cool. If you had a toothpick in your mouth every day and imagine you were like. Thinking about stuff and you’re just rolling the toothpick in your mouth. You’re like a Quintin Tarantino character. There’s a dude at the gym that just has a tooth pick in his mouth constantly. Oh. And at first I was like, okay, a little too aesthetic. Mm-hmm. But then now I see him and he’s just doing bicep curls, kind of moving the tooth thick around his mouth. I’m like. This guy looks sick. It’s probably better than a cigarette. Yeah. He also has like a giant star of David tattoo on his back. Yeah. And I under, you know, I understand the paradox of Jews and tattoos. Yeah. But it’s pretty sick. Yeah. It’s like barbed wire too. Oh. Uh, I’m like dead serious. It’s a great aesthetic. Um, but no, I, I happen to not drink very much plain water. Yeah. You are very hydrated, but you don’t drink regular water. You love fizzy water. I love. Fizzy water. Always. I love a diet soda pop. I, I, I don’t, I drink more fizzy waters than diet soda pop. Mm-hmm. But the amount of my hydration that comes from plain water. Probably sub 20%. Like how many cups of plain water do you have? Oh, we’ll say a week. ’cause not a day a week actually. No, no, we could, we could do a day. Okay. Um, I go home and I drink probably a quart of plain water. So that’s four cups of water. That’s great. Yeah. Great math. Okay. Well, not everybody knows what a quart and a cup is, but throughout the day I’m probably drinking six cans or 72 ounces of fizzy water. Mm-hmm. Uh, but, um, I, I used to have a soda stream at home, but, uh, the bed Bath and beyond went bankrupt, and that’s where I used to refill my soda stream canisters. Terrible, terrible. And so now I just don’t really know where to do it, so I started drinking plain water. Um, but, uh, yeah, almost none of it is, is plain, especially since we banned water bottle. Well, four cups of water seems okay. I remember whenever we were growing up, everyone said, oh, it’s not four cups of water. It’s four cups of water, plus 72 ounces, four cups of plain water. But fizzy water hydrates you the same as plain water. Sure. But I remember growing up we were always taught eight cups of water. Yes. A day is what you need to stay hydrated. Yes, yes. Now, I always interpreted that as regular quote unquote, plain water. Why? I don’t know. How do you think it hydrates you differently than, I don’t think, I don’t think it hydrates you any differently. I think the experience of like satiation and feeling quenched mm, whenever you drink a fizzy drink versus water are two different sensations for me personally. Oh, interesting. Yeah, because if I drink a a, a can of cork, a can of cork. Have you ever seen the video that’s like, where can I get [bleep] on a can of cold? No. What video are you talking about? The internet. I Are you on it? I’ve, I’ve really tried to not be on the internet as much Becky do consciously. You know what I’m talking about. Oh dude. So is this guy that goes around and asks people like Scotland or Ireland, like, where can I get a chicken and a coco? Do you know what the best chicken and can of Coke is in the area? Chicken and can of Coke. Why do you want want chicken and can of Coke? Coke. This is one of me things. When you go and have a nice Chinese meal, you reckon? Yeah. What you reckon? I get tell you what? Mr. Chili’s? Mr. Chili. Mr. There, right? Rice, we’ve just been here. You watch Chef, you got a chicken curry? Okay, I’ll give, I’ll give it a dog. Give it a go. This amuses you clearly, I’m in a giggly mood clearly. But yeah, for, I don’t know. In my mind there’s something about like, does it, does it Coke satiate you? Yeah. But something about drinking plain water without anything else in it. Mm-hmm. Just. I imagine makes you feel better, look better, become better. Yeah. I think we were one of the first generations raised on this weird fetishization of being hydrated. Well, I’ll say that, but also nowadays people are obsessed with water bottles. Like yes, like. I always think it’s funny about how like Americans, whenever they go to like Europe or something and they’re looking around these big — water bottles, then European people are like, what are you doing with your life? Yeah. Like, why do you need to be so hydrated right now? There were a couple pieces of media that went viral where people were like. Europeans must be dehydrated all the time because they’re not just drinking gallons of water. Water. And then also, if you look at like any nutritional health markers, right? Mm-hmm. Europe is too broad of a brush to paint with, but like if a lot of developed Western European countries versus America, we have like no legs to stand on. Right, right, right. On any of our practices whatsoever, is it fair to say that the foods that they eat hydrate them? Uh, well this is, this is a great question. The foods that everybody eats, hydrates them. Right? Right. As long as you’re not eating like very dehydrated, uh, uh, salty processed, like, like ramen all the time. Yeah. But if you’re eating a salad, there’s a lot of water that is locked up in vegetables that goes in hydration. Um, but today we’re talking about the biological mechanism of why you would drink water. Right. The thing that incentivizes you, the reason sugar tastes good mm-hmm. Is because that’s incentivizing you. To get energy to continue living life. Yes, yes. The reason we taste umami is because that’s associated with protein and probiotics, but water, if it’s so essential to life, why don’t it taste more better? What is the taste of water? I have no idea what water tastes like. My whole life, I was like, water tastes like nothing. Same. I’ve always, I’ve always thought that too. And I still like kind of believe that water tastes more like nothing, nothing than anything else. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. And I also think the fact that it’s a liquid, don’t laugh at me, also makes it taste more like nothing. Because like if I were to bite into something, yeah, it would, I imagine that that crunch and that chew, that mastication in my mouth would lead me to believe I can extract flavors from it, but with liquid, since it goes down so easy. Don’t look at me like, no, I’m not looking at you like you’re gizzy. No, no. This is actually really smart. Keep going. You’re really smart. If he says it, it’s true. But like with, with water, it just goes down so easy and so quick and it dissipates in your mouth and your saliva kind of tastes like water too. Right? Does your, does your swallow, your saliva? I’m welling it up. Ew. Okay. Does that taste like water to you? Yeah, it tastes more like water than like a steak or a Dorito. Yeah, right. Yeah. And then do you have water in your cup? It’s not blamed. Is it fizzy? Oh yeah, it’s fizzy, man. But what is like guava? Fizzy or regular? Fizzy. I don’t even look at the flavor of LaCro anymore. What smell it? What flavor do you think it is? Oh my gosh. Could be anything. It’s lamella. I’m gonna vomit. We can check the trash can. Peach pear. It might be peach pear. I’m looking at the trash can. I think it’s Sao Paolo guava. I was gonna say, I don’t even like the flavors anymore. I just want You really did. I just want the bubbles. Well, if you were to take out the peach pear guava Sao Paolo flavor, yeah. You, it tastes like your, it should taste like your spit, right? More or less, but. The reason you are left with a different taste is effectively because it is washing away your spit. Mm-hmm. And actually, there was a really incredible, uh, research paper. Mm-hmm. I’m pulling it up right here. Go for it. It was a Caltech by a researcher named Yuki Occa that it’s called The Cellular Mechanism for water Detection in the mammalian taste system. Sick one. I, I have some buddies that went into like research after college and I remember. I remember asking, uh, Emil, you’ve met him, Uhhuh, he was doing something where they were trying to isolate like one particular type of stem cell within a sea monkey. And I was like, oh my God, the stem cells, so like, is this for cancer research? And he goes, oh, there’s no practical application for it. And I go, what? So they’re just doing it to do it? Yes. They’re literally doing it because nobody has ever known it before. Science Rocks, science does rock. And also, you know, millions of dollars of funds that went into stuff like this. And now a lot of it’s probably gonna be cut. Um, but uh, yeah, but you just sort of know it, know it. So anyways, I’m really glad that, um, they’re out here finding out these things. Mm-hmm. Um, but what they have effectively found out is the taste receptors. That the taste receptor cells that are being activated in your mouth are the same that, uh, detect acid. So sourness, well, sourness, yes. Effectively, but it’s just a change in acid that is being activated by. Water because your saliva has an average pH of like generally slightly below neutral. Neutral on the pH scale is seven, right? Yes. It’s a, a very user-friendly, zero to 14 scale, so user friendly, however. And then the lower one is the more acidic and the higher one is the less acidic. Makes sense to me, of course. But anyways, average saliva, uh, pH is roughly like 6.4 uhhuh. Um, so slightly more acidic. And then most water is I believe, slightly basic. Okay. And so in, so what is that on the scale? Uh, so base would be anything from 7.1 and above. Okay. Right. But different waters have different phs as well. That’s right. That’s right. We can, we can get into that. But effectively the taste of water is the taste of changing acidity in your mouth. That’s so cool. If you really break it down. And then there’s mineral content that also comes into play, right. Which. There’s a lot of, uh, sparkling waters that I really love that really heavy mineral mineralization. Yeah. Yeah. You like Garl Steiner. You love Garl Steiner. I love Garl. It looks anti-Semitic, but it’s not. Yeah, yeah. Is it the red one? It’s, yeah. It’s got a lot of iconography on it that if I saw somebody is building, is there a building on it? I dunno if there’s a building there might be. Look up. Maggie, can you pull up the Garl Steiner bottle? It’s just spelled like it sounds. If I saw somebody wearing, where’s the O lot? If I saw somebody wearing a military uniform that had the Garl Steiner iconography and logos on it, I would be scared. You’d be uncomfortable. I’d be like, oh, bad things have happened in the world. Oh, Gar. Yeah. See, I was thinking of another one, but No. Garl Steiner. Oh, you know what I mean? That one, I guess it kind of looks like the Black sun. You know, it’s, anyways, the point. Heavy German words and strongly geographic, they make him uncomfortable. Yeah. I’m not a big fan, but the water is incredible. They do good water. Did you know that if you ask for, again, I went to Germany twice, so don’t quote me on this, but if you ask for Vosser, they give you sparkling wasser and you need to ask for still vosser. Ooh, sorry. It’s just one of the things I learned in Munich when I was drunk at, um, October Fest, Rizzo, um, I, Rizzo is like the, no, that’s Berlin the cool club. I No, it’s not where they’ll kick you out if you just don’t look cool enough. Know it’s called Burga. Well, there’s bur, there’s Berghe, Heim, Berghe. We should go to Germany together. I would love that. Hey, should we go to doublet, uh, Paso? That’s why you asked for two bottles of sparkling water in Italy. Should we go on a double date trip to Italy with our husband and. It is with my husband and your wife. Let’s do it. Judge. I wanna spit in a cup down. Judge, I’m speaking of double. So can we spit in cups now we gotta, we should tell the people why we’re spitting in cups. We’re spitting in cups because we, because Josh one time told me that he thinks that his saliva is, quote, corroding his teeth. And I’m like, babes. Ah. That’s literally not how saliva works. Your like best friend is literally my dentist too. I’m like, yeah. I’m like, dude, that’s literally not how saliva works, but, so you can quell your, your worries about your fricking acid saliva, like a velociraptor ruining your dental work. Let’s spit in a cup to CRPH because like you said, this test says six points. No acidic saliva can lead to, to acid erosion and enamel loss. Do you think you’re so special? Do you think you’re so special that you are spit. And maybe it’s all the fizzy drinks and diet Cokes you drink that’s ruining your teeth. Have you ever thought about that? I believe that’s being called, uh uh, red to filth. I think I’ve got red to filth on that. Um, so do you wanna spit in a cup together? Yeah, let’s do it. Um, we’re gonna measure our pH because that if you have more aesthetic saliva and drink more basic water, that is going to be a heavier taste change. Yeah. Which might lead you to being more sensitive to the taste of certain water. Right. Right. So I You’re like, oh, I don’t like Dasani. Ooh, I don’t like Crystal Geyser. Mm-hmm. Maybe this is why, maybe it’s ’cause your spits all left up. So Nicole spit in the cup. I’m gonna watch you. Should I do it on camera? Yeah. Yeah. Ew. That’s gross, dude. What part of the pH trip do you put in there? I’m welling up, saliva in my mouth. All of it. So you just put it in for one second. Uhhuh. I don’t like seeing my own spit in a cup. This is grosser than I thought it would be. Have you, have you ever done 23 and meat? It’s bankrupt now, but have you ever done it? Yeah. Did you cancel your, um, so you have to like, manually delete your data, right? Literally the day before they went bankrupt, I, I literally, oh my God. Okay. Well, like you have so much D did you put that bottom part in? Yeah, it’s in there. Oh, she’s manhandling my spit. Grow up. God. Yeah. Have you ever changed a diaper before? No. God, you’re so eff. I know. I really am. Are you gonna parent? I don’t know. Okay, let’s just let that, I didn’t think I got grossed out by anything anymore. Let’s just let that hang out for like a minute. But what were we talking about? What waters taste good and bad? To you? Oh, well, I like Sparklets water. You like Sparklets? I was on Sparklets. Okay. I was too. I think Sparklets is far and away the worst tasting water on the plant. I love Sparklets water. Do people know what Sparklets is, or is that a regional thing? I don’t know. I feel like I haven’t seen it in years. Sparklets was a water delivery system that would come in these large, like what? Not even, what was it? Like four gallon? Like 10 jug. Like gallon jugs, 10 gallon jugs. They’d get delivered to your home and my mom would say. So come put this on the machine and my brother would be like, I don’t wanna, and he would just, you guys had the full machine? We had the full machine. Oh, wow. And we would come in and we, my brother would tip it over. Some of it would fall on the floor, obviously. And it was in these big microplastic jugs. And it’s probably why we have microplastics coursing through our bodies right now’s. But um. That was the water we drank at home and I loved it. And we had it for like 10, 15 years and it was so wonderful. Sparklets is one of the few waters that I have ever tasted where I was like, oh, this is different than other waters. You, it’s disgusting and it’s bad. You think it’s disgusting? I think I, I haven’t had it again, this, I feel like it was much more common when we kids that people would have those dis or you go into some random office or like a doctor’s office waiting room. Yeah. And there’s a 10 gallon sparklets. Jug and a dispenser. Um, it is a local LA company. It was founded about, actually a hundred years ago. Happy hundredth birthday to Spark. Happy birthday. Sorry for docking crap on your water. Um, yeah, the company was featured. Oh my God. Heel Hauser went to the Sparkless thing in an episode. I Good for heel Hauser. I what’s heeler legendary journalism thing. Did a lot of NPR work. Um, but anyways, that was the first water where I tasted and went, oh, I don’t like this. Really? Yeah, it was, it was like my baseline. So maybe I got used to, and I didn’t think it was a bad flavor. I think that, I think that’s. Definitely part of the taste of water is I was brainwashed into liking it. I just didn’t grow up drinking water ever. I grew up drinking a lot of water. Yeah. Did your mom like buting on you? Yeah. She’s like, you need to drink that. To this day my mom literally texts me saying, drink water. That’s crazy. She loves keeping me hydrated. It’s funny because as much as Americans talk crap about other parts of the world not drinking enough water, everybody that I knew growing up who was like made to drink water by their parents were kids of immigrants. Yeah. I don’t know. You know, one of my best friends Vietnamese growing up mm-hmm. It was just like, gotta drink water. Even, even my, my best friend Deep who’s, uh, Gujarati from India mm-hmm. His parents would all always. Tell ’em to drink. Uh, room temp water out of a metal cup room, temp water. So to this day, room, room, temp or ambient water is my preferred type of water versus cold water, even if I’m sweating, dying outside. Mm-hmm. In like a hundred degree weather, ambient style water. Hi. I feel like it hydrates me better. I think it, uh, kind of does more so than fold. A lot of this is coming from, uh, anecdotal. What was that movie? No, no, no, no. It’s a movie like Vertical Limit. It was a mountain climbing movie where they get, they get trapped in the snow and, and there’s a scene where somebody’s heating up water uhhuh, and, uh, they’re like, just eat the snow. And they’re like, no, if you eat the snow, your body expends the energy to melt it. And I was like, oh my God, that’s genius. But when you drink cold water, your body does expend energy. Mm-hmm. Turning that into the temperature of your body. Right. Right, right. And so like if you eat something cold on a hot day, you’re kind of making yourself hotter in a weird way, even though it feels good. Yeah. You know. Sure. So, yeah. Room temp water, but love it. I dunno. But people grew up with different things, uh, different relationships to drinking water. I was raised to survive on milk and crystal light and, uh, the three liter, uh, name, not name, brands, store brands, soda pops. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That you’d get from Dr. Shasta. Like Dr. Shasta. Yeah. Yeah. And so I just growing up. Water was a different taste because it wasn’t like Tampico blue juice. Mm. Yeah. Or the, the gallons of strawberry or chatta that we’d get from the nine 9 cents store. Right. That makes a lot of sense. But for us, we just, we always had water and I used to drink it in a glass cups, and I try to eat it in glass cups now too. How weird. Why glass cups? I don’t know. I don’t know. Huh. I’d rather eat, drink it in a glass cup instead of a, a plastic or a paper cup. How do you drink water now? Because I, I, I still do drink flat water at home, but I’m very picky about it. How do I drink water now? Honestly, I hoard water bottles. I love water bottles. But if there’s like a water filter like al go, but you filter your water. Yeah. Hmm. Why I do, I don’t know. ’cause I, because I feel like LA Tap Water’s trash. What do you mean you feel like La Tap? Water’s trash. I feel like big cities tend to have better tap water. I’ve been told that. Listen, when I go to the restaurant and they’re like, still or sparkling, I’m like, gimme LA’s Finest. Gimme the tap. Tap is fine. Yeah. But now I don’t know. At home I’m like, whatever. Let me just filter it. Let me feel good about myself a little bit. It’s just that little extra step. And taking care of yourself? Do I think it does anything major? Probably if, how do you think your life would be different if you never filtered your tap water? Would my life be different? Yeah. Like would it? Yeah. Do you think if you could run those two models side by side, like if I didn’t care and just grab water from the tap and drink it? Yeah. Versus if I got it from like my fridge filter? Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, yeah. My life would, what do you mean? My life would be better if I did it and I do it. You do. Okay. But you believe that? I believe In what way? You think like your skin would be blotchy if you Yeah. You think you get cancer two years earlier? Yeah. Yeah. I, well, so what I do, check this out. This is a life hack. You get a Brita filter. Oh, you still use Brita filters? No. Check this out. No. Here. No, I don’t. You. Okay. You got a Brita filter. You use the filter until it’s all black and filled with. Plastic or whatever, whatever the Brita filter catches, I still don’t know. And then you throw that out, you keep the bri a pitcher and you just fill that with tap water, put it in your fridge. I swear to God, I’ve done that for grow my whole life because that way people think that you’re doing something good for your health and you’re not just running a, a sink under the faucet, but. It’s just tap water. You’re such a freak. Yeah. So I just, I drink straight tap water. I monster it, you know? Yeah. I used to drink hose water growing up. That’s true. Well, that’s probably you. That was most of my water consumption to be fair. Hose water does taste good. Yeah. Yeah. Straight from the hose. I think it’s the, the plasticine lining. I’m gonna check the pH of, of our spit. Okay. Yeah. We need a little, uh, I need to update on the spit. So, um, right now I’m looking at my, at my lovely little spit. Spit test and it looks as though I am at a strong six. I’m at a six. Can you look at my spit? So you’re six. Why your so blue? Josh, why is your spit so blue? Is that acidic or basic? You’re very alkali. You’re very, I have basic spit. You. Do you see this? Josh’s spit Is Josh’s spit. Is v is is it because of your sparkly water you’re drinking? I don’t know. I I made sure to not drink any for a while. Bestie. You, you spit is literally in the eight to nine region. You’re What does that mean? You have very alkaline spit. So this is, this is my strip. You know, this is Josh’s strip. Do you see this? I don’t want any of his spit to get on me. Do you see this? This is alarming. I think you need to go to urgent care. Wait, wait, okay. What, what number Is there a number correlated to it? Um, right now what I’m seeing is you are somewhere in the eight to nine. Dang. Okay. So normal saliva pH is typically between 6.2 and 7.6. That looks like where I am. Um, apparently alkaline saliva. Can also lead to a bunch of dental issues. Which makes sense because like if you think about like Lie, lie is a very, very fight club. Yeah. They make so scene with the hand, they make so bad of stuff, they put a lie on his hand and it burns him. Yeah. Because heavily basic solutions can also burn, degrade things. Uhhuh um, do we just find out I have like a serious health problem on the show? That’d be pretty cool. Oh no, I really hope not. Love testing or maybe it’s good for the views. Yeah. Hypokalemia, well, we’ll figure that out. But anyways, so water probably tastes. Different to you, very different than someone. You got a number on your saliva. Yeah. You’re in like the six. I’m like in the six or sevens. I’m, I’m, I’m right where I need to be. Yeah. Interesting. Um, because even if I had sparkling water in the saliva, then I think it would’ve been more acidic. Oh my gosh. This is crazy. I need to go to one of those. Okay. I’ve actually had them kind of reach out to me a couple times. Like these. Who’s they? These, I’ll tell you what, um, I don’t know if the Turkish government is behind it, but some like health spa from Turkey, Uhhuh, even like dental spas from Turkey. You see all these influencers going, getting the hair plugs, whatever. Come with me to do a whole screen body screen in Turkey. Yeah. They just like email you. ’cause I guess it’s connected to the Instagram and I’ve never taken ’em up on it, but some of them. You can just knock out every health test go in two days. I mean, have you ever been to ans you know, I can eat some donair? Yeah. Oh dude, you know, I can have, I love time. I can get a colonoscopy, see what my, as my basic saliva about, you don’t need hair plugs either. No, no, no, no. And that way I could, you know, get, get more colonoscopies or whatever, because I think with the amount of meat that I eat, Uhhuh Pro and creatine, probably pretty predisposed to, to colorectal cancer. Why don’t you just go. Why don’t you just the Turkey? Well, I can get it. You know what, you and Julia, we have colonoscopies at home. You and Julia should go on a on a honeymoon there, and then you guys can both get health scans. Oh, what a romantic honeymoon. Just watching another guy put his finger in my thumb. But turkey’s a beautiful place. That’s just like one, that’s like one 28th of all the fun things you’re gonna do, and maybe you’ll learn a lot about yourself. You know, it’d be a nice time, uh, maybe, maybe some polyps, but anyways, but this is, but this is why you have such a sensitivity to water, to water tasting different me because of your highly alkaline spit. Yeah, dude, that’s great. You’re all that stuff. That’s great. And I’m just chasing acidic drinks to try and counter out the alkaline in my spit. That’s what it is. We’ve figured it out, Josh. Incredible. And we didn’t even need a water sommelier to figure that out. What’s a water? So. So we gotta talk about the water song. What is a water song? I think it’s just one guy, but I remember, I think the Patina Group, which is like the most Michelin starred restaurant group in Los Angeles. Yeah. Who, who’s the head of Patina group? His name is Joachim Sal. Um, but I think the Austrian guy. But anyways, uh, they do all the food at the Disney Concert Hall. Mm-hmm. And big fancy stuff. Mm-hmm. I remember getting a press release probably 10 years ago that was like. Big new thing at the Patina Michelin Star restaurant group. They got a water sommelier and they would trot this guy around and he would do these demonstrations where he’d bring like six bottles of water. Mm-hmm. And you’d drink it and he’d be like. This one is slippery. And he’d be like, what? Huh? And he’d be like, because of the propensity of magnesium, this is slippery in Paris as well with sashimi. Okay. And so I see it, I hate it. Hate are people, but I see it. There are people that take the taste of water very, very seriously. Yeah. Um, I just don’t think that I. Ever need that in my life. I don’t think I need a water sommelier to like walk me through why, um, this water works well with Doc Lauren Ranch. I just don’t think I need that in my life right now, and I don’t think I’ll ever need that in my life. Yeah. But I think it’s cool that someone found their niche and found a group of people that also want to know about the best water to pair with. Fricking tuna carpaccio. That’s not interesting to me. Uh, Mar Martin Reese. Martin Reese is name. Good for you, Martin Reese. I think what Martin Reese has is what we are all looking for. Happiness and joy. Yeah. One thing that you can really call your own and devote your entire life to. Mm-hmm. And his is sipping water. That’s cool. And telling people about it’s, that’s cool. That’s cool. I think it’s really cool. We should all find our own water sommelier of our own lives. You know what I mean? It’s got a lot more introspective than I was thinking. Um, on the one end of, of the water tasting spectrum, you have Martin Reese Waters lameer on the other end. You got water? Talk F. Water talk F water talk. Why f water talk? Because just drink water. Like I’m seeing. No, I refuse to drink water. I’m so tired of seeing people. I wanna mix coffee, made hazelnut creamer in my diet, Dr. Pepper, and then call it water. Water. Like stop that. Like people are putting like mermaid powder, which let me tell you, if it, if it leads to you getting more hydrated, cool. Do it. But also I think it’s total BS just. Drink water. Find a water you like. Maybe it’s Fiji. Maybe it’s Voss. I also, I love Voss Water. I just remembered, have you read Vos Water before? Uh, yeah. I don’t like shape of its bottles. What? I’m just too phallic. I love the shape of the bottles. No, because I love Smart Water straight. They’re a phallic and I, well, I don’t like straight, I don’t like straight water. You don’t like straight women? Why not? I don’t like smart water. You don’t like smart water? I’m so sorry. I misread what you said entirely. I also don’t care for lots of straight women. Not all. Rank your favorite to least favorite? Straight women of all time. All time. Who’s number one? My favorite straight woman of all time. Leslie Bibb. Do you know she’s straight? No, she’s with Sam Rock Biz Man. She’s with, she’s with Sam Rockwell. Oh really? Yeah. They’ve been together for a long time. Oh my God. Incredible. And they were both in the season of White Lotus. Yeah. I don’t care for White Lotus, but I think Leslie Bibb is fabulous. You just dropped a Leslie Bibb reference in 2025 and you don’t watch White Lotus. Yeah, she’s like all over my. Feed. I know why. Leslie Bibb. Hass been a lot of great stuff. She has an incredible body of work. Yes. She’s, she was in Ling’s Buddy system. Yes. She, and then it’s on tv. Yeah. She’s been probably, the reason you were referencing Leslie Bibb in 2025 is not because of White Lotus. Yeah. Is that okay? Yeah, it’s okay. It’s just, I find it bizarre. You wanna know who my Lisa and Sam Rockwell. Did you even hear Sam Rockwell’s whole soliloquy? To be fair, I did see three billboards outside of Ebbing, Missouri, like. A week ago, so Sam Rockwell was on my mind. You’re referencing both Leslie Bibb and Sam Rockwell in the year of our load 2025. It is not about the white lot of season three. You can have like past experiences that can help define you sure as to who you are today. I, I understand that. It just seems uncanny. That’s okay. Okay. And then not everything is, is as it seems, Josh, who’s your least favorite straight woman. It can just be like the name of somebody you met once, Carol. F Carol, man, you don’t like Carol? She’s so, Carol’s never even like experimented around a little bit. Get outta my face, Carol. Okay. This is a dumb conversation. Let’s talk about water. Josh. Water. A very smart conversation. Josh. Hi, Josh. After all of this, yes, all of the, all of the spitting in cups and talking about people that aren’t relevant anymore to our lives. Yes. I need to know what does water taste like? Water tastes as close to nothing as nothing can taste. However, water does taste like something. Water tastes like the mineral content that is in it, including salinity water also tastes in direct opposition to what the pH of your saliva is. So you are mostly tasting a little bit of salt, a little bit of rocky minerals, and then also a change in pH. Could be more basic, could be more aesthetic than your spit. Generally swings both ways, but I will say we have fundamentally altered our. Biology and caused epigenetic shift in the way that we taste foods because we grew up just drowning ourselves in artificial cherry flavor, red dye number 40, and maleic acid inside these drink powders and Hawaiian punches. 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Now it’s time for a segment where Nicole and I put our trivia knowledge to the test. It’s time for our very own trivia segment called Yummy in My Tummy. Got some trivia for you. That’s right. Robot. Maggie has three questions prepared. Nicole, you and I will wait until the question is complete and then we will answer if wrong. The other person will get a chance to guess and earn the point. Let’s hear that first question. What condiment was used for its medicinal qualities in the 18 hundreds? I, I, I know it. I know it. I believe it to be ketchup. Oh, I was gonna say mustard. The correct answer is ketchup. F off. It was ketchup. Here’s the thing. All food was just medicine at some point, you know, they believe, they’re like, Hey, you got a, you got a headache? You got a gunshot wound to eat? A couple of walnuts. Know? Yeah. Yeah. Put some leeches on it. Get some walnuts in you. You’ll be all right. What is the prognosis for Cool Ranch Doritos? Malaise wasting disease, malaise. The process of baking a pie crust before adding the filling is called what? Ah, I know it. I know it. 1, 2, 3. Blind baking. The correct answer is blind baking. Mm. Very good. I have nothing to say about that other than Good job. Thank you. Yeah, you as well. It’s good for custard pies. Bake the crust. Add the custard. Let it start. You know what I love? I love I I love a silk. I love a You ever had a Miss Mississippi? Like mudslide, silk pie. A silk and chiffon. You know little, yeah, little chocolate MOUs love chocolates. I hate it. You hate chocolates dense. I actually, I actually, I had the worst chocolate MOUs I ever had at a restaurant this weekend, and I would never order it. But they were, they was such a bad restaurant. Oh, the one you were telling me about. They just sent a ton of desserts. Oh, LA I remember. Told you. And it was just. The, well, they called it a panna cotta, but it was a Mose. But it was a Mose, but it was an awful version of either. Yeah. Oh, oh man. Now chocolate MOUs has never done it for me. A great, a great chocolate mousse is like you love a ghetto. Have you ever heard like those fancy ghettos, like Cremo, gto? They do gto. GTO’s Just kind of French for cake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Moose. What does it look like too? Maybe I like moose cake. Like a nice moose cake. Moose. What about like an opera cake? I don’t like the chocolate on the outside. No, I just, I love cake soaked in liquid and opera cake does it for me. Like babo rum. Like Baba O Rum. Yeah. Baba O’Reilly another great song by the Who All Send It. Maggie. True or false? Nutmeg is a hallucinogen. That’s true. That is true. True. The correct answer is true. Yeah, actually Nutmeg has a crazy slim margin between, uh, psychoactivity and overdose. So kids don’t smoke nutmeg or just do great fresh nutmeg in your bechamel. I think arguably the best use of nutmeg in savory foods. You know what? I’m influencing the kids to stay off drugs. I’m more effective than the DARE program. You are. Me and Nancy Reagan have a lot in common. I love, if you know what I mean. I love, I love throat goat. You are the local throat, goat of mythical. All right, Nicole, what heard what you and I had to say? Oh, now it’s time to find out what other whack around I got there in the universe. I know I won. Congrats. It’s time for a second. We call opinions are like ca casserole ca. Okay. Maggie, may you please play the first opinion. Yes. Hopeful, polite. Thank you so much. He’s never, never been. I polite young man. Hey, Josh and Nicole. This is Isaac from Tennessee. I’m 12 years old and my food opinion is hot sauce makes everything better. Any food that you add hot sauce to will be better. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Love the pod. Thank you. Bye Isaac. We love you. Thank you so much for listening to the pod. Um, Isaac’s a young person. Isaac sounds like my husband. His, his tenor of voice. No, no, no. My husband agrees and says that hot sauce is better on everything. He eats hot sauce with every single meal. Doesn’t matter what country it’s from, doesn’t matter what temperature the food is. Yeah. Yeah. He, he puts sriracha on Guus. Apsi. That’s the kind of husband I have. I, so Isaac, when you’re talking about hot sauce, you’re generally talking about three things. You’re talking about salt, you’re talking about acid, and you’re talking about heap or capsaicin. Mm-hmm. I do generally agree, like acid can wake up food, a lot of foods, you know, that could usually hit a salt. Salt tastes good. And then heat that actually stimulates a positive brain response. I was thinking about something recently though. So like hot chicken, right? It’s so, so, so big right now. I saw this big explosion. You mean like Nashville hot chicken? Nashville hot chicken. Yeah. But I think just spicy foods in general, we’re kind of seeing this, you know, uh, a bigger trend towards, okay. And even CI one cuisine across China is getting more popular mm-hmm. With young people specifically. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um. Young people, especially Isaac’s age, right? Were grew up with so much dopamine hits constantly, right? From technology, everything being gamified, increased screen time, all this stuff. Uh, I wonder if any of that need for that intensity and dopamine hit has translated into food taste. For sure. For sure. Because if you think about like. Every new chip flavor, right? Oh my God. Pork just got a new one. Flaming hot Korean barbecue Doritos. Yeah. It’s all getting more sour. It’s all getting spicier more intense. It’s all getting saltier. We’re kind of like chasing this intensity. And so Isaac, I would challenge you. I try not putting hot sauce on some foods. I say as I go home and slather hot sauce on everything. I just complain about how he eat. Literally just complain how much spicy food the guy eats. Yeah, Isaac, you’re right though. Hot sauce is good. So hot sauce is bomb. Just uh, as always, just be aware if you start to feel any sort of stomach pain or any sort of irritation, you know, just pull back on the hot sauce, please. Yeah, Isaac, limit your screen time. Come on. It’s like, it’s like, you know that one wrapper kid that was eating hot Cheetos and he got an ulcer? You have to go to the hospital. Lil Z, a little Zan, Lil Z, the Rapper Hospital. Do we think that was actually, ’cause his name Lil Z, which is for short, for Xanax A Oh, a drug. Oh my gosh. Do you think maybe he was in the hospital for not hot Cheetos and maybe it was for Zans. Maybe it was for Zan. If his name was Little Hot Cheeto and he was in the hospital for eating hot Cheetos, I would buy it. You know, that’d be too on the nose, Josh. It might have been. Uh, I think it’d be too on the nose. What a benzodiazepine. Is that what a Xanax is? I think benzos. I think Zan are a type of benzo. I think so. Right. If I can think back to all of the rap music I listen to, it seems as though, Hmm. I might be correct. Do you mind looking it up on the internet, Josh? Yeah. It’s a type of benzodiazepine. What? What do you say? Anyways, next opinion. Isaac, you rule sorry for talking about drugs. Hi, Josh, Nicole, Maggie. My name’s Matt. I’m from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Hey, good dealer. So I just had a question about my mom. Where is she? As far as I’ve ever known, she’s put her green beans like out of a can when she cooks it. And just a bunch of Italian dressing, nothing else. Oh. Um, and when I asked her about it, she said that, I don’t know, she saw her aunt do it once. So I literally have no context for this. And I’m just wondering if you guys have ever heard of this or know why she would do that? That good? Alright. Thanks. Love the po. Bye. Cooked. Um. I mean, the green beans are cooked to death. They’re canned green beans. Oh, they’re canned. Do you think they’re hot? I would guess probably, yeah. Hot. A little warm. Okay. But I feel like I could see either, because there were a lot. Okay. If, if I had to guess where this came from, it was probably like good housekeeping. 1973. I was gonna say good housekeeping, seventies. Oh my God. Incredible. Back then recipes could have just been whatever it could have been called green bean surprise. Yeah. Or like zesty Italian green bean Surprise. And the ingredients could have just been open, can of green beans drain, add Italian dressing legit. And then if you wanna transform that into zesty Italian three bean salad, surprise, it would just Right. Add a can of kidney beans, add a can of zo beans. That’s right. That’s right. That’s right. So I’m guessing that’s where that came from. ’cause there’s a lot of. Weird quirks like that. Like even thinking back to, uh, my childhood, like stuff that my, my mom would make. Mm-hmm. Just what I can only describe as like white trash casserole salads. Yeah. Like all that stuff just came from one magazine in like the seventies. Yeah. When I was cooking for. Retin link as their moms, which is something we did in the past where like it would be like their recipes. It’s basically just like store-bought stuffing chicken and a slice of cheese and that would be the meal. Yeah. So it reminds me of that kind of, listen, if it tastes good and like the way it tastes, no problem. Shout to your aunt, she sounds lovely. And your mom, I’m sure your mom sounds lovely as well. And so many of those foods back then were a status symbol in a certain way, right? The fact that you could get like canned stuff. The fact that you could get canned stuff. And also, which also, this is generally when women started entering the workforce. Workforce in larger numbers. And I think it’s funny when we look back and like fetishize these eras and especially like the fifties where it’s just like, ah, single income households could just, you know, cook homemade meals all the time. It’s like they didn’t have access to foods like that. They didn’t, the produce section in the grocery store looked real, real different in the 1950s, you know what I mean? So anyways, yeah, probably that. Probably taste pretty good. Hi, my name is Tanner from, uh, Northern Colorado. I just need you guys’ opinion on something. Um, my girlfriend of four years has recently eaten sunflower seeds around me for the first time. Hi. Now I normally like to, uh, crack the shell, eat the seed, and then spit out the shell. Yeah. You know where this is going. My girlfriend likes to take a small handful of sunflower seeds, put them in her mouth. Yep. Crunch the shell and seed altogether and swallow all of it. She does not spit out any, shell, does not separate anything. And, uh, I think that is insanity. Lemme know what your opinion is. Thank you. Want me to go first? Yeah, you go first. I. Do not know how to crack seeds same and spit them out. I have no oral dexterity, no zero oral dexterity. Uh, so my whole life, I, I know Persians love seeds, just mashing around blind in there, and Persians love eating seeds. It’s truly a pastime activity for us. So literally, like our whole lives, we, what we do is we just, my mom just buys these seeds and she roasts them fresh and we, you know, we get in there. I would just eat handfuls of them and also all of the flavors on the outside of the seed anyway, so like, why would I not suck down and eat all that yummy, yummy goodness, you know? Mm-hmm. Whenever the seed on the inside is just about roasted, there’s no salt on it, so. The nicest thing, like to this day, sometimes like my mom and dad, sometimes my husband David, they crack it for me and they give it to me ’cause I’m so baby a sunflower seed, everything like a sunflower seed. But that’s, or like a pumpkin seed, like, but you would need to do that a thousand times. You crack a whole walnut for somebody. That’s nice. No, no, no. You don’t understand how. How kind my family. You’re cracking it with their mouth. Yeah, but it’s okay. They’re my family. It’s my mom. I see half of her so cavalier with my spit right now. You get it, now you get it. But like, you know, my mom, I’m half of my mom and my husband is like, we’re the same person. Like, your husband is also your mom. I get it. You don’t get it. But like, sometimes, like, like even if it’s like, like opening pistachio shells, like sometimes people do it with their mouths. Like they, they do it for me. It’s very nice. Like I get the cutting fruit as a gesture as, but a sunflower seed seems too much and then you just go, and then you hold your hand out for more like a little bird, like a hummingbird. That’s crazy. Well, whenever you’re the baby of the like, I’m the like super baby of the family. Like reminder, my brother’s 12 years older, my sister’s 13 years older, like American baby. They still treat me like that. So you’re saying what he should do? Yeah. You, you like a bird, like a, like a gold fich should use your little beak to peck open each sunflower seed for her if you are so disgusted by her swallowing the seeds. ’cause I have, yeah, because I have a different take because my mom used to literally say, you are gonna poop out seeds. Like, she’s like, she’s like, we’re gonna have to take you to the doctor. Your inner lining is gonna rip. And I’m like, I’m not gonna stop doing it. And then they’re like, I guess I’ll describe that for you. Let her, let her cook. Let her cook. ’cause that’s what I do too. I just, yeah. I shove it all in there and I keep chewing. I like a couch, chewing its own cut and then I swallow it. And look at me. I’m —-, dude. I’m like wildly successful. You know what I mean? Josh and I and I, I keep looking at your spit. I keep looking at your spit strip, and I’m like, I don’t think you’re —–. I don’t think you’re gonna be —- much longer. I would literally like watch, I’d be like in a like. A dugout. Like a baseball dugout. Yeah. In like PE or something. And then, you know, the PE coach would give you a sunflower seed. She’s like, ah, this is what baseball players do. Uh, and, and I’d watch the other kids, you know, and then go and spit out the seeds perfectly or spit out the shell perfectly. And then I would just try and do it. And then I’d go and I would just like spit spittle, like spiky spit along to myself. We have no oral dexterity. None. And that’s fine. It’s so embarrassing. Yeah, but, uh, either way, I, I live and let live, or you have to crack every seed for her. Is it weird? What is what I said weird? No, dude. No, no, no, no. Is what I said. Weird, different, different strokes for different folks. You make me feel like what I said is weird. I’m weirded out by the amount of labor that it would take to satiate you with that. It’s not about satiating, you know what I mean? It’s about doing it outta the kind. It’s not about you feel like someone peeling individual grapes for you. You know that’s not that outside. Yeah. What do you mean? It’s not that? Outside of like, what happens like if there’s season, the grapes cuts through. Yeah. Oh, interesting. It’s called caring about the people around you. Yeah. I guess I just, I’m probably gonna do that for my kids. I’m projecting because I wish I had somebody that cared about me enough to i’ll that feed me like a bird. You’re gonna beat me bird sunflower seeds at me. That sounds nice. Thank you. How my spit, how much spit gets in there? Well, it depends how, what your mouth. Yeah, how hard. How hard the seed is. I guess it depends how hard the seed is and how like what your mouth is, like little watermelon seeds all over. Just like hand in like a little kernel filled with spit. You’re eating watermelon seeds. You’ve, have you ever had a watermelon seed? Like a roasted watermelon seed? No. People are doing this Jesus Christ on the cross. What? Oh, now I’m the uncultured one. You’re getting sunflower seeds spit in your mouth. Uh, alright. On that note, thank you for listening to a hot, you’ve never had these, you’ve never had roasted watermelon seeds? No. I didn’t know you could do that. You’ve never all tab tabriz roasted. Dude, are you kidding me? This is a Persian staple. What’s, how do you say it in Farsi? To, ah, why didn’t you say so? Yeah, I’ve had to. On that note, thank you for listening to A Hot Dog is A Sandwich. We got new audio only episodes every Wednesday. 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