ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everetts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so we’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast it’s sweet it’s spicy it’s creamy and most of it’s made up of mayo whatever sauce suits your stomach we’re here to declare the definitive dunkable dressings for all our favorite foods it’s time to ask ourselves what is the best dipping sauce this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs the sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendizada and today we’re talking about the best dipping sauce with nicole we got to set our parameters here i love sauce i love sauce wait that is the thing though i hate dry foods i love wet foods i like sauce yeah yeah i’ve known some people that hate sauce they’ve like outwardly said they hate sauces and honestly i immediately take that as like i should not be friends with you you are not a sauce boss we can only connect on a certain shallow level because you don’t appreciate sauce and i mean that like deeply and philosophically yeah i like sauce it it helps with everything it just it lubes the food down your throat yeah it keeps it moving yeah it keeps it going through the digestive system through peristalsis and all that good stuff we love bringing up peristalsis this is like the third time i brought up of salsas i’m sorry it’s so interesting podcast brought to you by the natural esophagus movement of food known as peristalsis visit peristalsis.com hot dog for 10 off your body’s natural movements okay so best dipping sauce there’s there’s some natural questions that arise best dipping sauce for what because you dip a lot of foods into sauce that’s true i’m talking about the ideal platonic universal dipping sauce experience an all-accompanying sauce correct so if you are stuck on a desert island but miraculously have access to say like pizza french fries sushi whatever all that what is the one sauce that you want for the rest of your life to dip food into easy what’s it spicy mayonnaise spicy mayo for sure okay okay but that’s that brings up a whole another question though what what exactly do you mean by spicy mayonnaise so my my definite well it’s a very loose definition it’s mayonnaise plus any sort of hot sauce condiment so it could be anything from franks and mayonnaise it could be sambal oil and mayonnaise it could be sriracha and mayonnaise it could be i don’t know what’s that thing what’s that thing that uh david gave us one time that had lemongrass in it oh that was a different kind of indonesian song oh my god yeah yeah there’s so many different dude once you dive into regional sambals across indonesia what a world yeah and mayonnaise anything spicy plus mayonnaise is my definition of spicy mayo i respect that and spicy mayo to me is the greatest dipping sauce i would agree but i don’t think that satisfies our definition right here i think i’m gonna force you to choose one iteration of because that’s multiple different condiments because to me like say the difference between uh sambal olek and mayonnaise and sriracha and mayonnaise is the same as like ranch versus blue cheese so those are two no no no no no no no no no no no no there is no there is no upheaval about getting sambal olek and mayonnaise versus don’t tell me there is sorry i just raised my finger like not an aggressive no no no dude come on there’s a little like have we debated this yet blue cheese versus ranch i don’t know we’re gonna do that we’re going to one day but i don’t see their huge like upheaval about like oh sriracha and sambal the way that there is ranch and blue cheese but i say there is a silent war raging between sriracha aioli i mean we discussed this before mayonnaise plus something equal for all intents and purposes yeah there is a silent upheaval with sriracha aioli versus chipotle aioli because spicy mayonnaise is my answer for the record is ranch josh’s answer is ranch of course my answer is ranch yeah no i i could drink hidden valley straight from the model i have drink hidden valley straight from the bottle i mean i don’t like pour on a glass of ice and enjoy it as a nice evening treat uh but to me hidden valley ranch i mean homemade ranch i think you can make a better version but hidden valley is like the gold standard it’s really good it’s just like shelf stable mayonnaise buttermilk msg just enough herbs to kind of keep your lips smacking uh and so i think ranch is absolutely perfect but honestly most of the time when i’m eating ranch i am adding a dash of hot sauce to it which kind of just makes it a spicy mayonnaise in and of itself i guess ranch is predominantly mayo but but let’s talk about the universal aspect of spicy mayo yes yes yes can you dip sushi and ranch uh that is something that i was deeply considering i actually this is completely coincidental came up on my twitter timeline oh no way of a picture of someone eating at the workplace they had a little thing of whole food sushi and next to it a cup of ranch yeah dude and it just said my co-worker is dipping their sushi into ranch may i call the police uh and like one don’t call the cops don’t be a narc yeah don’t be a narc about something like that but i don’t know why it wouldn’t work and that sounds really gross to a lot of people and i and i’m fully sympathetic like i would never like take a beautiful piece of sashimi and like dunk it in hidden valve okay okay okay but i would dip it in spicy mayo but why what’s what’s the big difference in flavor profile uh it’s spicy creamy okay that’s spicy creamy but if you think about like creamy herby okay what no dill is one of the more prominent flavors in it so you don’t have to make ranch with dill i do associate with ranch yeah it’s great it’s got that tanginess and like dill goes beautifully with fish i know it doesn’t necessarily go with japanese food i know exactly what you’re trying to do right now you’re trying to say have you ever had a filet of salmon you know baked in the oven perfectly medium rare in the center and then you just squirt some ranch on it i know exactly what you’re gonna say and yeah that’s acceptable it’s basically tartar sauce let’s think about some other things like like i prefer my french fries dipped in spicy mayo versus ranch see there’s this is aioli sorry we like to get political often on this podcast no we don’t oh sure we do yeah you talk about like leftist what was that i think you said leftist pop-tart oh no yeah what was i talking about lasagna lasagna uh radical lasagna inclusionism i think was what it was called um this is a good case for ranked choice voting and why it’s important so like the idea that when you elect an official you don’t just vote for the person you want but you also vote a second place third place and fourth place because you understand that life is a lot about concessions and that when you are voting for someone to represent you in the government okay that you are not just you know if you sacrifice your vote if that candidate loses then the opposite of that candidate springs up in essence so you can still say vote your conscience uh say you know bernie and hillary was a big one people really wanted bernie in there a lot of fervent supporters uh you know you could rank bernie first hillary second and then those votes still go to hillary so i believe the same way the heisman trophy is voted on what i’m saying how this relates to dipping sauces is that ranch is not my favorite sauce for everything right okay ketchup is my preferred sauce surprise sure i think the sweetness i think the tanginess i think that counters the fat and the starch of a potato perfectly and i absolutely love it i also ranch on burgers is fine i would rather have you know ketchup on that but i also do enjoy ranch and french fries but it’s probably my third it’s probably even behind spicy mayonnaise but i’m thinking of things like you know i mean i’m a pizza dipper i dip my pizza too you know i dip it in ranch but i’m like you would sacrifice that you have to like figure out what foods are most important to dip somehow sushi is very important to me yeah french fries are important to me onion rings are important to me pizza is important to me uh what are some other things that you dip wings wings wings are a big one any amount of fried chicken is very important today fried chicken and spicy fried fish any sort of fried food yeah what do i mean where do we do we factor in crudites oh chips oh my god oh my god of course we do crudite yeah i love crudite do you love crudite is a fancy word for like raw vegetables you dip into stuff one time i got a plate of crunchy for maybe twenty five dollars and it was like three radishes in the celery not good that’s one of the most fun things about being an adult with your own money where you’re like i’m not gonna blow it on stupid extravagant things that are like big you know like a large tv or a truck yeah no no i’m gonna like spend 28 dollars to see what this like fermented nectarine crudite plate is and then it’s just like oh yeah that’s some sliced up fruit in a box yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah but you got to do that with your own money yeah and that’s fun yeah adulthood yeah i’m all about it but no i think yeah crudite for sure a spicy mayonnaise situation for sure amazing uh chips what kind of chips i mean tortilla i mean because tortillas tortilla chips i would dip my tortilla chip in a spicy mayonnaise chipotle mayonnaise probably oh god i would too okay i’m trying to think of other dippable items yeah uh what are some difficult items corn dogs corn do spicy mayo in a corner yeah wait that’s true i literally i literally like made that on the show once we get that crab cake hutch puppy corn dog josh you literally are the are the czar of pink dipping sauces which is literally spicy mayo your whole entire aesthetic is spicy mayonnaise it is also ranch it is also but but for the general public and the two are are intertwixtable as i’m saying in a way they’re intertwinable like ranch is very adjacent to mayonnaise is very adjacent to spicy mayonnaise yeah but i want to press you on one recipe for spicy mayonnaise that you would like to go with all this because you’re throwing out chipotle you’re throwing a sambal you’re throwing out sriracha and like this you’re talking about homemade ranch buttermilk ranch i’m saying i’m saying if i’m on this desert island i’m taking about 60 65 bottles of hidden valley ranch i’m going to use them if i find a native population i’m going to use them to trade why do you have to build a house why can’t it just be an overarching umbrella i don’t think so because i think then we get into really murky terms of what it means to be like say you said aioli it’s like why are you talking about you know all flavored mayonnaises why can’t it just be like i don’t care like why can’t i just tell the tell the mayo gods like i’m just gonna close my eyes and i’m on a desert island and i’m by myself and uh it’s coconuts but like i don’t eat the coconuts by itself so the spicy mayo gods like bestow upon me i don’t know uh spicy like spicy mayo from like crazy fish dear lord in heaven do not let me eat these coconuts unadorned i’ll reign your blessings upon me spicy mayo of whatever providence you see yeah like i don’t care what kind of spicy mayo is because think about it this way thinking about japanese style spicy mayo that i get from like the studio city sushi bars that i go to i would dip a french fry in that no problem yeah i do i literally did that the other day we have i think it’s lee kum kee brand which i believe is korean yeah yeah but we got that in the fridge right now and yeah the other day i was dipping like like a breakfast casserole into it oh you’re breakfast casserole that’s interesting your energy bar yeah so to explain why nicole’s uh talking about energy bars i started not really strictly doing the whole macro counting thing i’ve heard jim rose talk about macro accounting forever i’d never actually done it and so i decided to start measuring everything out but i started doing it in a very lazy way so one breakfast i i mashed up a whole loaf of bread with about 12 eggs a couple cups of cheese and some turkey sausage and vegetables and then i baked it into a loaf cut it into very large bars of again just mashed up bread egg and cheese and meats uh and then would microwave them at the office much to the disgust of nicole and trevor but then they got real gross by the fifth day when the eggs got old yeah and then the microwave was smelling up the kitchen so that’s my bad i owe you an apology for that that’s okay thank you for doing it on a public platform such as the podcast co-host i was waiting yeah i’m sure you were i’m sure you were that said when i went for a dipping sauce because of course i need to dip that in the sauce i didn’t grab ranch i grabbed spicy mayonnaise you sure did i wonder i would love to see a crystal ball that has shown me my choices on dipping sauces for most things because now that i’m really thinking about it i don’t know if ranch would actually take that over spicy mayonnaise from me i think you like to think that ranch is your favorite but in reality and in practice it’s spicy mayo that’s interesting hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythicon heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big ol bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability how do you feel about like dipping things in barbecue sauce i hate that really i hate the only thing i like to dip in barbecue sauce is chicken nuggets i have a weird soft spot for onion rings and barbecue sauce and i don’t quite johnny rockets johnny rockets this is johnny rockets because your brother used to catch on your rocks yeah yeah that makes sense yeah they got the big old hunk and crusty onion rings and then like the warm barbecue sauce where you breathe in the vinegar kind of chokes you yeah yeah big fan of that uh mindy actually who helps us uh write our prompts i guess you can say well mindy does our research better yes we should use more mindy you are an invaluable asset to this company and your research packets are great me and nicole are too stupid yes mindy actually wrote about how much she loves to dip her fried chicken from jollibee in the gravy now i would never consider gravy a dipping sauce but she’s like this is like the most amazing thing in the world and i’m like you know what gravy is indeed a dipping sauce but like i’m not actively dipping like crudite and gravy i’m trying to think yeah as far as universal dipping sauce goes i don’t think gravy could compete however she was so passionate on a specific basis mindy wrote an entire paragraph on jolly bee gravy one jollibee more need to open up in the states there’s one in la it is absolutely fantastic it is the largest filipino uh fast food restaurant chain home of the chicken joy yes uh and they got pansit they got my favorite are the one dollar corned beef panda salt sliders oh my gosh do you know one time i think i got the corned beef the spam and one other kind and i want to town on those little puppies i love and i also love the spaghetti too oh yeah yeah except i say no hot dogs because i don’t like you you don’t get the hot dogs and dude you gotta have the hot dogs no i’ve had it before but i like it without the hot dogs i think it’s because their hot dogs are like mushy mm-hmm and i i it sounds like vienna sauces yeah if i were to do it i would like it to sear it a little bit yeah yeah yeah but that’s just me well speaking of fast food sauces what what do you think the best like pre-made fast food sauce is out there it’s in between two can i have two yeah of course okay this is this is aside from the dessert okay for sure buffalo sauce i love uh all of them i like all buffalo sauce i actually i really do love like the very chemically pre-packaged buffalo sauce i love that stuff like we just got the buffalo sauce from popeye’s oh yeah that that’s that’s all right there’s like some artificial butter in there for sure yeah i love that though that like hydrogen oil that gives it this creamy sort of consistency i don’t know i mean i like mcdonald’s yeah i guess mcdonald’s i just like associate sauces with mcdonald’s like i also love i love buffalo sauce and i love honey musty honey musty we are both very big honeymoncy fans uh uh ken’s you’ll never sponsor this podcast can steakhouse dressings your honey mustard sucks that’s the only honey mustard we currently have in the fridge and i’m mad about it but i love honey mustard and i think the the preeminent honey mustard in the game is mcdonald’s i think they got these called spicy mustard it’s this like deep kind of brown i think they still have it actually yeah it’s like it’s this deep brown kind of stone ground look like it looks way too artisanal for something at mcdonald’s you know as opposed to like their sweet and sour which is just like a sludge of corn syrup and like maybe some soy maybe citric acid uh but no honey mustard for me it’s a bit too specialist like honey mustard specialist i think so i mean i couldn’t imagine dipping like pizza or anything outside of like chicken chicken nuggets and honey mustard especially chicken and honey mustard is like really good together yeah but outside of you know anything in that realm i’m thinking about taking a a piece of beef like a medium rare piece of beef my mouth is watering and dipping it in like a bernay sauce right now so bad like a beautiful like tarragon scented yeah uh you know what doubles as a great substitute for bernays and steak is ranch dressing hold on hold on hold on i want to make it hey the case for ranch dressing and slick because uh so in in basketball yeah a little humble brag i was on the jv basketball team in high school before our games we would go to dinner at outback we had a special deal with them where there’s a special preset meal that all these teens could enjoy on the cheap and uh we would get like the crappiest thin cut pounded like new york strip steak and fries and salad and uh you know outback got some of the best ranch in the game i think it all probably comes it is really good cisco it’s cisco right but cisco ranch is so white that if you take a picture of it it glows i’m not kidding yeah that’s another fascinating piece in this whole thing is that there are all these brands that exclusively supply to restaurants cisco ranch is good yeah and so like all you know outback applebee’s chili’s all these places are using the same ranch the same barbecue sauce typically the barbecue is called like cattleman’s something bananas okay so good to know um but anyways and they’re all pretty damn delicious uh and so outback ranch whatever the cisco big industrial ranch is i think it’s probably better than hidden valley it is yeah and i am a huge huge fan like even if you like it’s like this weird coldness that like you can’t duplicate yeah because they put it in the cups and they take it straight out the fridge it’s like this weird it’s like the chemical composition of cisco ranch is like almost frozen taste you know what i mean it’s so cold that you’re like how can this be like how is this not a solid yeah it’s so good it’s like it’s like how is coors light the coldest light beer yeah you can’t explain it all all light beers are kept in the same fridges but coors light claims to be the coldest it’s some weird chemical composition man cisco cisco’s got it down it’s like an anti-freeze agent and i’m not kidding yeah but i used to get these very thin pounded out stakes that were like pretty crappy i have nothing but love for outback i am wearing an outback you are indeed right now um but that was when i first discovered the joy that is steak dipped in ranch dressing and i will not apologize for it i’d rather dip my steak in some spicy mayonnaise would you actually of course go steak to mayonnaise i think you need to me the benefits of ranch dressing over spicy mayonnaise are you get that little bit of herbaceousness coming back to you and there’s the same amount of acid i think in a ranch dressing especially when you put buttermilk and stuff like that in it because like that’s you know one of the beautiful beautiful things about spicy mayonnaise to me it’s just like creaminess acid spice that all cuts right that all jives with each other the thing is you think the herbiness helps i think the herbiness actually hurts because imagine i’m if i’m eating something and it totally clashes with like the parsley the dill the i don’t know what you put in there i don’t know yeah well black pepper yeah like all of those flavors can be really combative with other flavors and like it won’t match up like spicy mayo simple it’s just spicy mayo you know that’s all it is but you’re you’re talking about all these mixing hot sauces with mayonnaise that are like very complex recipes in and of themselves sriracha like sriracha is like a very complex sauce it’s like fermented chili peppers it’s garlic it’s sugar i guess that’s it so it’s not that complicated but those are like big strong flavors yeah yes but the heat is the first thing you notice yeah but with ranch it’s it’s herby it’s true it’s herby herbie and there aren’t a lot of foods that i don’t want spicy ex exactly i love spicy food so much that my tummy starts to hurt when i eat it i think i need to go to the doctor shout out to helen reyes who delivered us a bunch of you killed us the hottest food i have ever tried um just i mean like carolina reaper ghost chili habanero even sichuan peppercorn is there anything like pepper x yet yeah pepper x is also known as dragon’s breast i feel like they put pepper x in there i think they may have i don’t know but nicole uh literally took one bite and then just started screaming water water i was running around the kitchen like i’ve never ran because josh knows i don’t run so he’s like whoa this is cool nicole can move at that pace look at her go give this girl an nfl contract she started truck sticking defenders in the kitchen trying to get the water screaming this is not safe for human consumption so yeah you love spicy food but you cannot hang no not like that i can hang like i can go to jitlada and get some spicy stuff you have my nose run at the table and then clean it up but like pepper x and carolina reaper dude you were literally you put your head down uh-huh oh yeah was dripping out of your mouth onto the floor of you no i’m not proud of that moment looking back yeah yeah so here’s the thing um you know gastrointestinal distress is not a joke and it’s not like this was just you know any ordinary food that caused this reaction i mean this is like literally some of the hottest peppers in the world it was really hot and we ate a lot of it uh i think i was doing chef johnny and helen ray’s a favor by taste testing some stuff and you know i took my job very seriously i consumed a little bit too much yeah drooling and farting at my job of course he was just going no no you’re doing wrong it’s like you need to go i was like you need to go home the amount of gastrointestinal distress that i have faced because of this job me too are you kidding me me too i have extreme gi issues because of this job but i wouldn’t trade for the world well there are multiple times when i’ve had to just like physically go home to to poo shout out to tushy bidet uh they are a sponsor of the podcast occasionally i do love their product it has really helped but no when i like broke the baby food world record i remember actually this is back when i was single and i i had a date that night and i just had to like cancel because i was like i’m sorry uh i can’t go out tonight on account of i ate four pounds of baby food and now i’m about to go spray fart all over my bathroom walls um and yeah they didn’t take that which to me just says that we weren’t meant to be if you can’t handle it i can’t go to this nice cocktail bar because i’m spray fighting for hours on end and just doubled over in pain in my bed screaming for mercy were you really screaming no i mean no no it was i’m a very silent resume remember when you had a bunch of oranges and then you had so much calcium you just had liquid lava coming out of your yeah yeah i think i because i ate nine oranges and i think i may have overdosed on vitamin c yeah yeah who who brought up spray farting back to ranch asking what what i’m thinking about now again i’m trying to bring this back to like the practical reality you seem fully resolute i’ve not convinced you on anything right now it seems like i’m i’m halfway too converting to the spicy mayonnaise clan come over because i’m trying to think of times in which i’ve had pizza but i’ve not had ranch dressing and some people may not understand this but growing up in california the pizza was not good enough to not have ranch dressings for sure for sure you go to costco you get this big slab of just doughy bready cheesy peas there’s no like craft or care that goes into it it’s delicious and i love costco pizza but you need you need ranch yeah and so you get you know a cider ranch dressing from the costco food court and you dip it in so now i will very rarely eat pizza without ranch dressing it’s just something i need for it and i won’t apologize for that but there have been times when i’ve ordered pizza to my home asked a ranch on the side they didn’t give it to me and then i had to jerry-rig my own ranch but i like often kind of don’t have ranch in my house for whatever reason that’s weird i feel like you would have like a back supply like some sort of like doomsday prepper you’d think i would but but i think it’s because i can like generally jerry-rig my own ranch um but sometimes i don’t have you know sour cream or buttermilk or whatever and so i kind of just end up taking uh mayonnaise water hot sauce and spices and mixing that into so you make spicy mayo i make spicy mayo but i thin it out a little bit to give it the consistency of ranch because i don’t just want gobby mayo but that is still spicy mayo yeah it’s not racist no it’s not you call it ranch because you’ve grown up thinking ranch is the end all be all condiment and dipping sauce when in reality it’s just spicy mayo baby it was spicy mayo the whole time the whole time it was her the whole time if you get on that plane you might not i don’t i don’t know the council like i don’t really know castle blink now i’m thinking of other dipping sauces we got like popeye’s black and ranch quesadilla queso queso blanco is what i was thinking what now i’m thinking okay on this desert island scenario okay you got your spicy mayo okay you’re happy you got your ranch you’re happy i’m now on spicy mayo island i have a swam over i thought i have organized a team of large sea turtles to tow me to your island where you have spicy man really i thought we were on the same island and you’re on the one half thousand habitable i’m on the other half that’s inhabitable and now we’re like we like bump into each other oh you got spicy mayo in my ranch you got ranch in my spicy mayo and then we all go to paw patrol die of dysentery on the island speaking of spray farting back to dysentery uh no i’m thinking about the possibility of like just missing out on plain hot sauce you know because that’s something i would want like not every i we we both agree that we love spice we can’t imagine our lives without the addition of hot sauce to it but if you choose spicy mayonnaise and you can never have hot sauce outside the condiment of that creamy fattiness is that going to be something that you miss sorry i just got a little bit distracted i think uh rhett and link are recording yeah rhett and link are doing something we make sure you may hear them we may shout through the walls at him rhett what’s your favorite sauce oh i hope they don’t actually hear me oh crap do we just disrupt their shoot what were you saying i want to introduce the possibility of straight up hot sauce especially louisiana hot sauce as a potential answer because i know it’s not necessarily a dipping sauce like i’ve dipped fries and straight hot sauce i really am sure yeah just having that like vinegary peppery punch you know it’s really really special yeah but i need that creaminess to help with my dip ability i feel that and i guess i mean if we’re talking like hot sauce on fried chicken to me is the perfect combo yeah really right and i love dipping tendees into you know a creamy spicy mayonnaise but talking just you know one for one i want straight losing a hot sauce on that fried chicken and i want louisiana hot sauce with a fistful of mayonnaise yeah i uh god i think i might agree with that i don’t know if there is any answer because ketchup to me like is one of the most beautiful sauces in the world has a fascinating history truly it’s right thousands of years old all that stuff but it’s just not universal enough it’s not but spicy mayo very universal and i’m a universal kind of girl you know who invented spicy like who’s the first person i’m telling you they were on a desert island and it just so happens that the mayonnaise and the hot sauce they they mixed and then they made the beautiful baby that is spicy mayo what about thousand island does thousand island deserve a place in this conversation no because it’s not the best it’s good it’s palpable i did pizza on thousand island and i do enjoy it but i think the sweet yeah the sweet and the pickles make sure that’s right now what we consider thousand island is just mayonnaise pickles and relish right sorry mayonnaise pickles and ketchup yes typically but the original recipe for thousand island was like raisins and nuts and mayonnaise and a bunch of stuff yeah and it was actually created i think so yeah gross and it was the same story as every food origin myth where it’s like this person was hosting a dinner party and didn’t have anything around so they looked in their pantry and they said oh i have raisins and nuts and then and then now in and out gives you free packets of spread which is mayonnaise ketchup and pickles yeah i think the pickles in the ketchup it doesn’t work with every food josh you know it’s spicy mayo just say it yeah i just say it i still said that it’s a reference to blood sport or jaw claude van damme yeah yeah yeah of course i’m trying to think i’m trying to reason this out i still think we need to settle on one recipe for spicy mayonnaise okay fine that would be the best to you is sriracha is it chipotle okay just is it just because i love sriracha and it works well with multiple cuisines including italian including uh it works good on like tacos and stuff i put i put sriracha in moschetti sauce sometimes yeah like i put it on pizza i put on tacos i put it on soups i put it david my boyfriend eats it with his kabob and his rice really he squirts sriracha straight on his kubita and i’m just like and sometimes i just look i’m like what are you doing but like it’s good like it makes sense yeah so the spicy mayo that i’m going with forever and always on my desert island is mayonnaise and sriracha i think i think i would go red rooster in mayonnaise i go back and forth about what my favorite louisiana style hot sauces are i’ve talked about crystal i really love crystal i love crystal too but in this sense sriracha and mayo is the way to go i think i think red rooster i think of sriracha i think you miss that little bit of acid i know there’s that like little acidic punch in mayonnaise but to me i want it a little bit thinner because i think that works better for pizza and various other foods and so i’m going i’m going three parts mayonnaise to one part red rooster i think that’s that’s that’s the universal dipping sauce welcome to the desert island of mayonnaise josh i love this here [Music] all right nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say and now it is time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casserole [Music] why are we whispering who decided that we should whisper i did i didn’t sign up i know you did i don’t like asmr videos they creep me out i love asmr videos no i don’t know it’s it’s it’s it’s my favorite it’s like the mukbang videos freaked me out luck bangs are what i aspire to do one day on the internet i would like to do that yeah all my career plans fail i’m going straight to only fans and doing exclusively shirtless mukbangs yeah yeah yeah yeah i’ve talked to my girlfriend about this plan that just seems to be the right route for me you know i think i gotta get a little fitter first you know work on that for a month take it away josh straight to eating lasagna shirtless um for the fans okay okay okay okay what do we got baby we got at dorky crouton 44 my friend okay dorky crouton we know it was you once wrapped a granola bar and ham lunch meat and spread barbecue sauce on it he said it’s good this hypothetical friend is entitled to their own opinion it was you it depends on kind of granola bar yeah i agree that’s what i was gonna say if it’s like a maple uh if it’s like a you know what a maple pecan no thanks but if it’s a hidden valley for sure uh what’s nature’s about nature valley what did i say you said hidden valley got ranch i got ranch on the brain i got bro i got my brain is like brining and ranch dressing constantly i could see once chocolate chip once chocolate chips get involved in there i don’t think you’re okay yeah i think if you’re doing like a chewy granola bar it’s weird but yeah i think you know just adding like so many breads dave’s killer bread comes to mind is a very sweet type of oaty honey-like bread i think a lot of granola bars share similarities to that it’s almost like a one of those like keto natural breads that’s just like a bunch of nuts stuck together and yeah yeah ezekiel ezekiel bread yeah i don’t have any problem with this i think your friend is fine i think barbecue sauce ties in nicely add some spice to that ham get the sweetness from the granola bar i’m into it sam.cube says beets are the most underrated vegetable roasted beets with goat cheeses it’s 10 out of 10. i love beets i have beets in my morning juices sometimes and also i put beets in my salad and also sometimes i pickle beets and then sometimes sometimes you can take beetroot powder and mix it up with uh beeswax and a little bit of coconut oil and make yourself a tinted lip balm oh um yum oh i can’t speak to the lip balm portion of this uh but sam you did come to the right place if you’re looking for i like beets i simply i sip for beets i want to drink gamer beet bath water uh no i love beets uh roasted beets with goat cheese absolutely delicious i hate this trend of roasted beets with burrata yeah and peaches yeah it used to be roasted beets and goat cheese which is a great combo sweet beets kind of earthy tangy goat cheese but burrata it’s just sweet on sweet bharat is very in vogue right now you gotta let it the wave i know yeah i’m just gonna let it pass until there’s like a new fancy like um serbian donkey cheese no you know what’s gonna be the next cheese you hear it here and now you know that really caramelized nordic cheese um bruno or yetost yes that’s the next hot cheese you heard it here first that is a really weird it’s like somewhere between caramel fudge and american cheese yeah my brother like sent me a picture of it like two weeks ago and i’m like yeah i’ve heard of this before have you had it yes it’s amazing i love it yeah it’s going to be the next hot cheese i’m telling you now i almost say it’s like cash similar yeah kind of whoa but it’s more caramel it’s like that caramel sweetener yeah that’s interesting oh yeah beet juice also my favorite juice in the world beet juice with apple and ginger and a little bit of lemon at a monavie that’s how it’s spelled out i love that in grade four i took five plastic utensils and sewed them into a glove to invent the dinner glove the idea was that you would only use one hand to cut scoop and eat this is like the thanos this is big brain stuff you have too much power as a single individual with five plastic utensils on the same hand i don’t think the world is ready for it i love the innovation especially as a nine-year-old to have the thought to do that this is amazing this is the kind of thinking that i want my child to have me too in grade four they’re gonna be a billionaire but they’re gonna invent amazon too electric booklet okay crouch underscore bin underscore set says croutons are best spongy and soaked in dressing i shouldn’t chip teeth eating caesar salad josh stop writing burner accounts you’re such a dork you can just talk about it on the podcast this is it’s not a crouton if it’s wet and spongy right uh i definitely love a good soaked crouton you know because my mom used to put me salads for lunch sometimes and uh silly shalla she would like put the dressing on the salad and by the time i would pop it open it was like a wet mess yeah like a wet gross like sweaty like salad mess but the croutons were the best part like no i guess i’m on the same page and i know what they mean about like a crouton feeling it’s gonna break your teeth especially as a soft toothed individual i feel that like a lot of places they’re using bread that’s too rustic to make their crotons and then they’re just they’re crootons uh and then they’re sorry but like i think like croots literally means like crust in french right makes sense yeah uncrooked yeah it’s a patented crust yeah yeah sure yeah maybe uh but anyway i think there does need to be when you said best spongy and soaked in dressing i was picturing just like untoasted bread like soaked in like a friend like a josh you said this so many times you love food that is fried then soaked that is true that is true so yeah croutons roasted and oil basically fried soaked in dressing yeah that’s a treat for me i’d eat a bowl of that like cereal all right at phil ray tung and cabeza are so underrated and need to be used more i absolutely agree i love tongue so cabeza is just meat all around the head of the face a cow and face i think a lot of it i know um is like cheeks specifically but i’ve talked to a lot of taqueros and like when they say cabeza they’re using mostly cheek meat um but yeah tongue and cabesa are absolutely underrated uh tongue has such a lovely texture to it it’s like somewhere in between like a spongy lunch meat uh and also just that like you know hard meaty chew of a carnivore i love tongue i always get at least one tongue taco no matter what truck i’m at yeah yeah all manners of tongue to me are really fantastic get like jewish deli tongue yeah it’s absolutely delicious you got like taqueria tongue my mom makes the best tongue in the world yeah i want some of your mom’s tongue she takes it and she first boils it like two times to get rid of all the scum and then she she removes the taste buds and then she cuts it like into like maybe like two inch pieces and then she broils it and oh my god it’s like it’s like crispy on the outside then the inside’s like molten meat soft it’s really give me that molten soft meat i i’ve cooked the first time i cooked the whole beef tongue yeah like you gotta blanch it and you have to blend the taste buds and all that first time i did it though i cooked it for over the course like four hours in my college apartment sophomore year with all my friends and it created such a pungent smell it’s quite interesting like you said it you gotta take the scum off you gotta get that beef steak off yeah you do um but yeah i was just letting that beef stink waft into the air in a household like eight other dudes do the tongues that you buy do they have like a piercing in the middle no so that’s so sometimes like like the ones that we get are like from the kosher market so they actually and hold on they like pierce distance of it so you know someone close your horse from a courthouse cow not a horse wait why are they why do they pierce i don’t you were holding your tongue and i couldn’t understand it i think it’s so like you know that it’s kosher so they know like the number it came off of whoa yeah so like we would get tongues that have like straight like piercings in them that’s wild it was really cool i’ve never gotten that but when i buy um pork skin from like vallarta like the crown and cereal um there’s like a tattoo on the pork skin yeah and like i don’t know if i’m supposed to eat it or not do you eat it i know i always like cut it away you know just kind of like i’ll just remove that little part but i’m like is this food safe i don’t know if this is a mistake uh but no it’s like the stickers on an apple like you’re supposed to eat it okay c g l how do i see say this at sea glit i get sweet and salty savory but fruit in salad is wrong no fruit salad that’s thumbs up um okay so there’s only one time that i’m okay with fruit salad and that’s the strawberry salad let me tell you it’s spinach it’s strawberries it’s walnuts it’s cranberries it is a beautiful uh balsamic dressing and that’s the only time i’m okay with fruit and salads i’m i’m pretty pro fruit and salads okay that’s okay i am i love cr i love a good craziness and salad especially like a mustard is good dried fruit is good even though i love apples and salad one of my favorite salads a salad with apples yeah one million percent it’s great one of my favorite salads is from the bucca di beppo from the bop-up uh it’s like gorgonzola random mixed greens i think there might be like a little bit of like radicchio or something in there but then it’s like apples and this very kind of like mustard italian vinaigrette yeah uh and i’m a huge fan of that i do especially during quarantine i was making so many just like janky salads i was going to the store once every two weeks and i would just buy like mass amounts of meat and fresh produce and grains and stuff and i’d figure out what to make on the fly and then like i was trying to make a nice salad but all i had was a giant bag of greens but i always have apples on hand it’s my favorite fruit to eat good honey crisp in the morning so good uh but yeah i just ended up like slicing up apples and like roasted mushrooms and throw them in a salad and it’s really good nothing bad to say i think you’re wrong siglit at nicole kristen grocery store strawberries used to taste good now they taste like water i don’t know you’re correct is that can you vouch for that yes strawberries taste worse now than in the past it sucks because that’s very accurate also you need to get strawberries when they’re in season or else you just don’t get strawberries that might be the bigger thing yeah a lot of the times when you get cheap strawberries and not in season strawberries they end up tasting a lot like water like pouches of water with seeds but um if you really want a good strawberry i’m sure you have a farmer’s market around you that you can go visit yeah and like we’re we’re blessed hashtag blessed to live in in one of the better strawberry growing regions of the world like just about 100 miles north not even 150 miles north we’ve got oxnard where they grow a ton of the best strawberries and so every time with strawberry season we just get you know amazing harry’s berries harry’s berries everyone talks about harry’s berries lovely they’re like red all the way through that’s their big thing lady underscore and underscore the underscore camp not an opinion but what foods are worth buying organic and which don’t matter this is such a great question it is um berries i like organic berries i feel like they do taste better uh greens i do like my greens to be organic i like organic spinach and organic kale and chicken i try to get organic chicken yeah man this is a really loaded this is a really loaded question and it also gets into the definition of what is organic like usda has its own definition what are you trying to do is it specifically for taste or is it for environmental reasons um where does you know the idea of genetically modified crops come into this and blah blah because you know a lot of gmo crops are built to absorb pesticides so if you’re trying to avoid glyphosate and stuff like that good luck because 97 of all corn in the us is grown uh you know as like roundup ready is what the crop is called uh shout out to monsanto and bayer for that one um do you personally buy organic i do when i can because i i think organic like some things are better organic like if i did a side-by-side test i’m sure i could like tell the difference maybe i can’t though i don’t think you tell the difference and not you specifically i just think anyone i don’t know i guess i guess in my like past like i enjoy getting my berries or get i don’t know why berries matter to me being organic maybe it’s because i heard one time like pesticides but like i like to get like organic like greens like leafy greens like kale and spinach and like romaine i try to get organic and then dairy products give me all the processed garbage you can find um beef whatever yeah the chicken i’m like really thinking about though there there’s chicken is actually a really big one what i’ve noticed from a lot of you know non-organic like large industrial chicken producers is there is a like very high prevalence of this bizarre muscular disease where they’re growing the chickens too fast so they get these weird striations in the flesh and it has this like crunchy texture that disgusts me viscerally yeah i know what you’re talking about yeah and so i i started spending premium on chickens i started spending premium on eggs because the the quality differences like organic eggs yeah we talk about vital farms a lot we’ve done outreach um i have not bought eggs for myself that aren’t vital farms in like a long time because to me they just taste better is horizon milk organic i’m not sure if it is i my mom buys organic milk yeah but as far as it comes down to like taste i think the bigger thing especially for produce is seasonality sure like out of season tomatoes i mean so so many of them i i thought i hated tomatoes when i was a kid because i had only had them in like fast food and they’re obviously not thinking about they’re not going to be like yo it’s not tomato season the whopper ain’t got a tomato slice on it yeah these and whatever and they don’t care how ripe it is so like ripeness and seasonality are going to be bigger factors in taste yeah as far as organic produce versus non i don’t think i could actually tell you the difference and you know the morals and ethics on that obviously very very murky we should be supporting better farming practices of course but what the term organic actually means um you know kind of up in the air a little bit we didn’t answer that question at all buy organic apples why not at amanavid back with another one i love fruit with black salt and chaat masala chopped masala it’s absolutely fire i love chopped masala we need to delve deeper into the world of masalas yeah masala is i believe just the hindi word for spice and it typically refers to the spice blend so i mean like tikka masala is its own no no i’m sorry garam masala is its own you know spice blend um and i remember when i was going off to college my best friend deep’s mom gave me a bag what’s called sandwich masala oh yum which we used to mix into egg salad and put it on our sandwiches have you had black salt before it’s called kala namak it it has that sulfuric acid yeah a lot of people use it in like vegan substitutes like when they’re like oh i want this to be like an eggy flavored thing like a uh i don’t know like a vegan hollandaise they put a little bit of caulimark in there yeah and i just think it’s really interesting how this person likes it with fruit i’ve never had it that like sulfuric might not work with fruit yeah but i mean probably gives it like a little funky kind of bite yeah i prefer uh my preferred masala on fruit is called tahin masala it’s a masala i love tajin always on forever have you ever got the hub is there a habanero one i don’t know i think there’s i would like a spice boosted sorry i’m googling once once you start putting salt and acid on fruit it’s hard to go back yeah tahini seasoning habaneros sign us up maggie we’re securing that tahin ad deal get em on the podcast because we are stands of tahini on fruit hey we should open up a fruit stand with black salt and chop masala you mean we should steal the ip of one of our listeners who wrote to us yup sorry amanavid your good idea is our profit and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here at mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or enhendizade with the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see you next time bye bye bye friends [Music] thanks for listening to this episode of a hot dog is a sandwich and hey before you go we wanted to remind you that season 2 of stevie’s podcast best friend’s back alright is underway 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