ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everetts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so i’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast hey if this podcast sounds a little bit different we’re doing this from home again because josh keeps forgetting to bring his mic back to the studio despite being the biggest chicago icon since kanye west there’s no more maligned midwest food than the deep dish pizza whether you love it or hate it you still have to answer the question is it even a pizza at all or is it god help us a casserole this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh air and i’m your host nicole handy zada and today nicole nicole we are taking on this is a hot button topic this is maybe the most controversial thing that we have ever talked about on the show and i’m so very excited for it so we were talking about whether or not deep dish pizza actually qualifies as a pizza or if it should be considered a casserole and this was brought up i know it’s a huge thing and something that i likely never would have thought about if it was not for jon stewart’s epic rant about it which i shall now read in its entirety instead stay buckled up if you’re in a car what do we stay buckled up how long is it oh it’s super long the podcast in general it’s like 45 minutes too long oh my gosh okay okay um now i shall read jon stewart’s epic anti-deep dish pizza rant in its entirety okay i was gonna be nice but now you’ve gone too far so let me explain something deep dish pizza is not only not better than new york pizza it’s not pizza it’s a freaking casserole i’m surprised you haven’t thought to complete your deep dish pizza by putting some canned onion rings on top of it it’s a cornbread biscuit which you melted cheese on and then in defiance of god and man and all things holy you’ve poured uncooked marinara sauce atop the cheese atop the cheese on top the sauce naked cold on display like some sort of sauce [ __ ] damn it you know the expression there’s no such thing as bad sex or bad pizza your pizza is like sex with a corpse made of sandpaper let me tell you something this is not pizza this is tomato soup in a bread bowl this is an above ground marinara swimming pool for rats let me tell you something about your freaking not pizza i want to know when i get drunk and pass out on my pizza that i’m not going to drown let me tell you something i look at this look at this look at this you son of a biscuit when i look at this mia gabagoo i i look at this when i look at your deep-dish freaking pizza i don’t know whether to eat it or throw a coin in it and make a wish and i’d make a wish it would be that i would wish for some real freaking pizza now in all due respect i realize it’s very cold in chicago very cold it’s windy you need to be able to i don’t know have a pizza and maybe cut it open and climb inside of it like a taunton to keep you warm seriously who you who you kidding who uses an iron skillet to make a pizza you don’t use an iron skillet to make a pizza use an iron skillet to fend off someone who tries to serve you a freaking pizza made with a skillet here’s how you know i’m right you call it chicago style pizza you call it deep dish pizza stuffed pizza you know what we call it you know what we call this we call it pizza oh that’s nice and by the way you don’t put tomatoes and celery salt on freaking hot dogs either you know what i’m saying everybody knows there’s three acceptable condiments for a hot dog there’s mustard onions and stagnant hot dog cart water that’s it wow jon stewart in a way that only jon stewart can do i’d like to hear trevor noah’s version of the anti-deep dish rant but i mean that’s that’s huge shot fires jon stewart’s a new yorker he’s got strong views chicago deep dish pizza obviously a far cry from your pizza do you think it’s far enough to be called a casserole what new york person doesn’t have strong opinions on pizza have you ever met someone that’s from new york and eats an l.a slice and like this is garbage patoi i feel like every new yorker has big opinions about pizza but no i think it it’s i believe that deep dish pizza is still a pizza the quantities might be a little confusing to the average person but at the end of the day it is dough it is sauce it is cheese it is in a triangular shape when you cut it typically and you put on a plate and you go nom nom nom with a fork and a knife yeah it’s a little obtuse and weird but you still do it it’s still pizza i so i get man you gotta look at the functionality of pizza and what it’s meant to do right and i totally understand someone someone who views new york pizza as the end-all be-all which i do so there are a bunch of other celebrities and whatnot who have weighed in on this like um uh now dead judge antonin scalia said that the only true i don’t know why i chose to call him now dead former but foreign the late supreme court justice antonin scalia said that the only true pizza is neapolitan uh and therefore chicago deep dish pizza is not a pizza um also i think ruth bader ginsburg said that a hot dog is a sandwich anyways supreme court justices do not get to rule on food opinions you and i do nicole and that’s just as impressive as supreme court justices i am the rbg of mythical kitchen and you’re at the schoolyard i don’t want to be antonin scalia i mean you’re sotomayor how’s that i’ll be i’ll be so tomorrow that’s totally fine okay okay if you look at the functionality of what a pizza is okay it’s funny that antonin scalia references neapolitan pizza and that is the og pizza right there’s the association blah blah blah there’s the whole like governing board that defines things as pizza or not pizza however you can’t hold talking about supreme court i am not a constitutional originalist i believe in a living constitution i believe in a living definition of pizza and so like i don’t think neapolitan is and all be all of pizza to me we define pizza across the world that’s the pizza huts the dominoes these multinational corporations that have now spread to malaysia and dubai and all the other continents of the world i think new york style pizza is the end-all be-all because you know what you eat neapolitan pizza with a knife and fork yeah of course you do so people who try and use the knife and fork argument to discredit deep dish pizza as a casserole i don’t know if that’s compelling however i would look at the total like size and weight and proportions of a deep dish pizza to possibly call it a casserole and i understand that there’s leavened dough and there’s sauce and there’s cheese but it’s in such a different proportion in a way that makes it completely different from every other style of pizza entirely i i’d be willing to call it a casserole but it’s not a ca i mean it’s just a regional pizza style if okay let’s just say are lovely who owns who owns the bazaar jose andres okay we all know that jose andres did a beautiful rendition on a philly cheesesteak right he had the air bread and then he had the wagyu and then he had the foam of the cheese and whatever it’s still for all intents and purposes disagree disagree disagree disagree entirely so you think molecular gastronomy takes away from the original like the original meal that they’re serving i think it’s a form of of high art in the way that when when rene magritte painted a picture of a pipe and said this is not a pipe it’s an image that was like an artistic rendering of a pipe in the same way that jose andres’s crazy philly cheesesteak which is a very cool dish by the way it’s like it is some sort of aerated dough stuffed with what is it like the steak on it it’s like raw and then torch it i think it’s raw wagyu and then he makes a foam out of cheese and he puts it inside of the air bread but i’ve never had it before i’ve never had the original dish but let’s just say i’m going to el bully or i’m going to the bazaar one of these high or elinia we’re going to a fancy restaurant you and i me and you and then they have pizza on the menu and we’re like oh my god we’re going to eat pizza at a fancy place i wonder what they’re going to do to it and they give us some dehydrated 36 hour yeast crackers with a with a tomato dust and uh and a cheese and a and a cheese balloon that you pop and it rains down like toppings all over it i’ve blown cheese balloons you have that’s that’s literally how you make burrata is you take like stretchy mozzarella and then they used to like just put it over their mouths because when lucas and i went and shot at that uh burrata and mozzarella factory yeah the dude was telling us about like working in old school burrata makers uh back in italy and he was like they used to all smoke cigarettes and then they would blow up the mozzarella and then he did it and he’s like and now people say burrata don’t taste the same no cause it no longer tastes like unfiltered winston i was like that’s hilarious that’s so interesting wow so you the smoker’s lungs used to used to perfume the burrata yeah i mean this is just from like one dude so i don’t think it’s something that can be like in the historical culinary canon really cool anecdote though yeah i thought it was great anyways you were saying about the 36 hour dehydrated yeast cracker yeah but josh like if we went there and then we ate it and then we had the sensation like oh my god we’re eating pizza is that still a pizza isn’t the deep dish pizza just an artist’s rendering of pizza instead of it being a high version let’s just say more of a lower version a more accessible version a thicker version a heartier version but there are thicker heartier versions of pizza that do not go so far as chicago deep dish right like what at detroit style right you look at so when antonin scalia said that neapolitan is the only true pizza style whatever like i obviously don’t think that’s true because you look at the traditions that have come out of rome in sicily and other reasons then also how immigration and um what’s that one word the diaspora and how the diaspora sounds like a manufactured drug yeah i take diaspora for my heart palpitations um but anyways and like how immigration diaspora has affected pizza styles and whatnot but you look at you know a svinchione i think it’s called from sicily which is like a very thick pizza that some could call deep dish and then that is actually what is transformed into say detroit style pizza which i find really interesting that people people do tend to pick on chicago style deep dish and i think for a reason because like detroit style pizza it’s very thick right anyone who says that pizza needs to have a thin crust i don’t think is absolutely true detroit style pizza is thick but it’s still like a majority bread and i think that is maybe where my issue comes down to is what percentage by weight is it topping sauce and cheese versus dough because chicago style pizza that’s where it differentiates the most to me it’s not eating with a knife and fork because neapolitan pizza is traditionally eaten with a knife and fork uh it’s not the fact that you know there’s cornmeal on the crust or that the cheese isn’t on the top to me it is purely a ratio issue when pizza pizza needs to have some sort of like majority bread dough component in chicago deep dish does not allow for that but the structure of the dough allows for that because it creates this this vessel almost like a casserole dish oh almost like is it almost like have you ever had a pizza casserole like someone that just takes a bunch of bread and then puts cheese and tomato sauce on it and like toppings and they put in the oven that’s not a pizza that’s a pizza casserole this you just you just described the chicago that’s what a chicago tea dish pizza is it’s like a bread it’s a bread bottomed casserole no no no no no that’s a pie that’s a pie that’s a pie a deep dish pizza is a pie i would maybe accept that but do you consider all pizzas to be pies because there are people that’s another question that a lot of people have asked us no all pizzas all pizzas to me are a form of flatbread key issue here is flat bread no no okay okay okay okay okay okay what if you have a pizza and it doesn’t have the crust the crust isn’t raised that’s a flat bread but when i have a pizza and the edges and i have a distinct specific visual crust that on the sides like but how are you how are you gonna how are you gonna measure that with my eyes with my eyes i have eyes i look at it before i eat it hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythicon heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole head over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability well it’s funny because like the term pizza pie pizza’s relatively new to the u.s like obviously there have been italian immigrants in the u.s for a long time probably making it within their own communities but a lot of people don’t credit the explosion the us until after world war ii when a bunch of servicemen came home and they were eating pizza in italy and all that and so like the original sort of name for pizza was pizza pie uh to make people understand what the hell it was right because like you just say a new foreign word to people in america they’re not gonna understand what it is but if you say like oh this is a pizza pie they’ll understand that something can cut slices out of it but to me that’s a complete misnomer like i don’t consider pizza yeah because i don’t think the raised crust is necessarily like endemic to what a pizza is i think something like a flatbread that doesn’t have a raised crust and bread like still has leavening in it right like you’re not just eating a cracker i would argue this is interesting then because like to to call chicago deep dish a pizza you have to decide what exactly a pizza is since st louis pizza does not have leavening in the dough right st louis style pizza to me god oh we have a bunch of one stars on apple podcast because i talk crap on st louis pizza well thanks for that buddy i don’t care i don’t care how far our rating goes down from city of st louis st louis pizza is to me the worst regional pizza style it is like a lunchables pizza i need to try it in full size uh we’ll order some from emos or elmo’s or whatever it’s called uh online have them delivered i feel like it’s only fair like if i’m gonna say something’s the worst i need to try it you know i can’t just piggyback on what you say all the time you know when it’s safe to do so we should fly to st louis and sample all of their best delicacies because they also invented the the toasted ravioli which to me is an absolutely beautiful food i love tasted ravioli but the pizza to me is somewhat of an abomination because it’s on it’s essentially like a matzah pizza right like it’s like the pizza that you make if you were one in the desert but that’s pizza matzah pizza to me is not a pizza it’s a month when you when you use to me when you use the term matzah in pizza you are disqualifying it from being a pizza because you’re specifying this is on matzo not on pizza dough i believe pizza dough does need to be leavened and raised which is why i wouldn’t consider it i don’t think i don’t think i again it doesn’t need to be rip okay i take back what i said about race crust it needs to be a visible crust on the outside but i know what you’re gonna say what if the guy puts the sauce all the way to the corners and some cheese gets on the side is that still pizza yes it is i don’t know i don’t know in my mind in my mind in my mind this is all making sure you’re contradicting your arguments in real time instead of letting me do it i love it yeah because i know what you’re gonna say it’s one of my talents i also do the same thing with my fiance he goes what am i thinking and i say diglett the pokemon and he’s like how did you know that so it’s the same exact thing but i’m basically trying to say that like what is what is diglett is diggling the animal that burrows in the ground or is it like the ground itself what is it diglett is is the little guy that pops his head out in threes i believe no that’s that’s doug trio the evolved form of diglett was doug trio douglas just a single one but that’s what i’m saying like is it like an animal because it’s kind of just like it’s shaped like dots the candy you know what i mean it’s just like a little half sort of cylinder guy but yeah is it supposed to be like a little animal that burrows or is it the ground itself that’s anthropomorphic oh my gosh that’s a really good question i like to think that it’s the animal what’d you say anthropomorphic yeah yeah yeah i believe it is an anthropomorphic ground thing can you eat it though can you eat the ground no no well could you eat a diglett what would it be could you eat could you eat all pokemon oh yeah so that’s the thing you can um there’s a whole storyline where uh slowpokes the pokemon are being poached for their tails because people eat them yeah no you can definitely pokemon what what pokemon would you want to eat the most um my favorite pokemon of all time would be dratini i don’t know if you know who dratini is it’s like a dragon right no i’ll show you a picture i call her her i don’t know what the gender of dratini is the most beautiful pokemon i’ve ever seen in my life and i would probably eat her because she kind of looks like an eel and i would probably chop her up and saute out a little bit of ginger soy glazed marinade situation how about you you know yeah i think snorlax here’s the thing so there’s a lot of there’s a lot of like easy uh sort of analogs you can bring to the eating pokemon debate like um cloister is just a big old oyster that’d be fun right you could eat uh tauros it’s just like a wild boar psyduck duck is a duck uh but no i would want to go snorlax because whatever animal snorlax is i don’t know if it’s like a bear it kind of looks humanoid or like a bean bag but it’s like the kobe beef of that animal spends its entire life sleeping and being super lazy it’s it’s fattened up completely whatever that is i would want to get a tenderloin from snorlax yeah yeah i know drautini evolves into dragonite i believe and i would eat both of them i’ve been watching a lot of pokemon unwrapping videos i’m sorry wow this is a deep tangent man this is probably the deepest thing you’ve ever been on back to pizza so you’re talking about the raised crust being a necessity but like you said that doesn’t necessarily make pizza pizza because like a detroit style pizza you would say is a pizza right yes there’s no raised edge crust on detroit style pizza the cheese is actually but it’s but it’s intended do you but it like but it covers but it covers the sides like a pie but the cheese is actually what extends all the way outward you know it’s like the cheese still there’s still a little bit of a lip there’s a distinct lip it’s just instead of it being up and curved like a like a pizza crust it’s underneath and on the side okay see what i’m saying that makes sense that makes sense i see what you’re saying there’s like the intentionality of creating a raised crest this is all i’ve learned that this whole podcast is all about intentionality basically what the chef is bringing to you is what it has been decided like he is god chef is god god give food to you patron patron eat what the god give you i think you you give a man a pizza he eats for a day but you give him a nice big hearty pizza casserole like deep dish pizza from chicago he’s gonna eat that for like a week who can eat a whole deep dish pizza in a day i don’t know when’s the last time you had deep dish pizza it was there is a chain i don’t even know if it’s from chicago or if they opened in california um but i went after an lafc match it’s called god i feel like i want to look it up it’s uh there’s one in long beach also but anyways it’s it’s a really good like chicago style pizza chain and these lamonicus no monica this is new york style that’s in westwood foreman’s chicago no it’s called rances rancid dish pizza about a year and a half ago it’s probably the last time i had deep dish pizza but i do i do love deep dish and it was a huge part of my childhood because like there were there were two different competing pizza places in my hometown that you would go to like after your last game of like a youth basketball season and one of them one of those called ballpark pizza which i absolutely loved it was a new york style but they had the little basketball video game you know where the papa shot that was really good at and i stake a lot of my self-esteem and identity on being good at that game i would challenge anyone in the world to a pop shot competition um but anyways there was another place called selma chicago deep dish place and what’s really funny is i didn’t know that you’re supposed to eat deep dish with a knife and fork back then so as like a very it’s like you’ve seen pictures of me for my youth basketball days i was a five foot eight five foot eight 240 pound 12 year old power forward absolutely crushing it on the court playing you’re only a little challenging i would have i was friends with you back then i would have like definitely like made you my friend like forced you to be my friend like i did right now and i’m like come here large man protect me from the bullies and you wish i forced you i forced you to be my friend by hiring you that’s that was the whole thing there we didn’t we didn’t need to hire for your position when we brought you on there was like josh needs a friend he needs someone to talk to that’s fine but so i was like a child and i was just like you know picking up a half a deep dish pizza and shoving it in my face just covered in sauce probably dousing it in ranch as well oh no yeah oh one time i made a deep dish pizza in the car big mistake big mistake do you do the thing that i do where you get your hands dirty in the car and then you just wipe it under your seats and then you actually reach under your seat oh me neither no no i don’t do that no i lease my cars i don’t purchase them i would never give a car back with like pizza pizza doo doo on the bottom of it i have integrity i’d like to put my car in park and have plenty of napkins just in case of emergencies i have 15 kombucha bottles rolling around in the back seat floor of my car and every time i make a turn you get on the freeway i think they’re gonna shatter but they never shatter sounds like a christmas tree in there back to pizza back to pizza i truly don’t i wanted to play devil’s advocate i don’t think there is a compelling argument for chicago deep dish being in casserole i think it’s something that people say i’m very interested by the fact that people say it especially someone as smart as jon stewart because it just shows how how much new yorkers like to insult people like pizza pizza is such he also would probably say that barbecue chicken pizza isn’t pizza which of course it is right like the toppings it’s got sauce it’s got cheese you know it has other toppings on it and it’s on a pizza dough that’s obviously pizza but people from new york they hold so much of their identity into the one dollar foldable big floppy slice that they will go so far is to spread lies and propaganda to call chicago deep dish casserole that doesn’t make sense what casseroles have a leavened bread bottom none none right that’s stupid if if anything could be considered a pie i do think there is a case to be made that chicago pizza is not pizza though and when we say chicago pizza we mean the deep dish because there are other regional chicago styles yeah but there is a big case to me that this is not a pizza simply for the ratio aspect of sauce and toppings to the bread i think you can maybe consider it a pie i’m i’m team pie because pizza pie is a thing in my mind so calling it anything other than a pizza pie would just be wrong i think it’s wrong i think when we’re defining our notion of pizza hood because that’s what this is all about to me do you agree that pizza needs to have a leavened crust or 11 sorry not 11 crust but 11 dough to create it no no because i’m a girl that grew up making pizzas with tortilla bread from mission hill ketchup ketchup and shredded cheese in the microwave i’m not gonna front that’s who i was that’s who i still am sometimes but do you think you could reasonably call that pizza do you think you could open a restaurant because i i’ve got i’ve done this open a restaurant no but i could feed it to a little kid and be like hey look here’s pizza and they’re like thank you our barometer cannot be can i trick a child with this food to me that is not an appropriate argument you can call me that’s how i determine all my arguments like will my niece and nephew accept this i i fully respect that and i have made a lot of tortilla pizzas in my day you take a big floppy flower tortilla you put it in a pan sauce cheese throw it in the oven till it’s crispy it’s fine but to me that is not pizza if any restaurant served that calling it pizza i would not consider it what if they put a descriptive a descriptor in front of the word like lazy girl pizza that’s fine but i think in the same way that if you call a voided check a check it’s serving the opposite purpose of a check right it’s like an open face sandwich right the term the descriptor open face is literally telling you this is not a sandwich open well well yes well yes okay i stand down does that mean so i think by calling it like a tortilla pizza or something then i think and jon stewart kind of hit on this in the rant where he said like you have to call it deep dish pizza because you know it’s not a pizza we call our pizza pizza but i don’t think that’s the case but josh if i go to a party and i bring i said hey i’m bringing pizza and i bring deep dish pizza do you think people would be upset i mean if the party was in new york maybe flat out yes i think people would be upset because especially right this is no i think this is a really important point like even if you brought a bunch of like individual tiny neapolitan pizzas that had wet centers i think people would also be upset right because if you’re bringing because i think pizza is such like an ultimate sort of game day party food because you can just pick up a slice with one hand have a beer in your other hand or a nice glass of skinny girl rose whatever your drink of choice is and you can eat it portably but if you told pizza you’re bringing if you told people you’re bringing pizza to a party and you brought just a big old sloppy wet deep dish casserole and said like have fun they’re like oh i don’t have the appropriate plates and cutlery and napkins for this this is a party what are you doing josh are you kidding me i went to a house party long ago and they said hey we’re gonna order pizza and i’m like okay whatever they’re gonna get domino’s i saw like eight pizza boxes and i was like hell yeah so so i guess you just are a man of convenience and you just have one way of thinking if someone brought me apollonia’s pizza to a pizza party i’d be like holy cannoli like look at you if someone brought me a deep-dish pizza i’d be like oh my god you are such an overachiever if someone brings pizzana it’s a done deal bro you have to set your own prejudices aside though right like this isn’t about that because your legitimacy man i love chicago pizza i love it whatever it is i think it’s absolutely delicious i think it offers something different completely than new york pizza it’s something that i like actively crave i want to taste 80 toppings but to me the fact that i even might even love it more than new york style pizza but to me that might indicate that it’s not pizza because it offers such a wildly different experience which i’m all for i just think we need to rename it something i don’t think it’s a casserole because again bread there’s no bread-based casseroles that i know of at least unless you talk about like uh you know something like a spanish strata where are you using pre-cooked bread there’s no like raw dough that’s a bread pudding yeah that’s its own category to me i believe chicago deep dish pizza god help me should be considered a pie i think the dough is like just unleavened enough to be considered like a crispy pie dough and when you cook it it should be crispy right like kaido yeah and then you have a majority an overwhelming majority by weight and volume of sauce cheese other toppings to me that constitutes a pie where the filling is a majority of it but the crust is still important the real question is do you ever take prilosec otc after you eat a deep dish pizza no i like to suffer i like to suffer for my art but i know the commercial you’re talking about with the dude’s just sucking down a deep dish is it larry the cable guy i don’t know i just googled acid reflux medicine it was the first thing that came up wait you you preemptively got acid reflux just from talking about chicago deep dish pizza if that’s not an endorsement of a food i don’t know what is yes i owe it nine days out of 10 i have acid reflux anyway today’s psa for keeping your gut healthy brought to you by nicole so we’ve come to an agreement yeah deep dish pizza is pie it’s pie it’s neither a pizza nor a casserole i think you could consider it adjacent to both but i believe it exists outside of the structures all right well can you order me pizza dude i was just i’m we’re both we both complained right before this how hungry we are we both only ate a banana right before this yeah dude i’m ordering deep dish tonight all right nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s the time for a segment we call everyone [Music] all right first up we got a nani mama this is wild dude chips and pizza with frosting ideally some kind of buttercream i think it’s the salty savory sweet thing that gets me and it’s similar to the chili and cinnamon roll combo which is also divine so this bread hold on this person’s taking pizza and they’re slathering it in frosting and then covering it in chips or they’re doing chips and frosting separately it says chips and pizza with frosting so in my mind this person has a pizza they’re crushing chips on it they’re folding it and they’re dipping it into the frosting like say you would a ranch or a cholula okay hold on hold on i let me think this through i love i love ranch on pizza because it’s white and creamy and i think that’s delicious i love honey on pizza as well you take some of that mike’s hot honey you drizzle it on a spicy pizza yeah i think that’s delicious what is frosting but a combination of the sweetness of honey and the creaminess of ranch uh sugar sugar but you got the sugar from the honey that’s what i’m saying it doesn’t have to have vanilla you think there’s any real vanilla in the dunkin hines white frosting no no that’s that’s too weird what is white wait what does white frosting taste like if not vanilla just white just sugar yeah there’s vanilla flavored frosting and then there’s white frosting which tastes like white what does white taste like exactly uh no no this this this combination vaguely disgusts me frosting and pizza that’s a no for me but i love that someone’s doing that and i love snacking on canned frosting yeah i i can’t get my head around the frosting but if it was maybe something else that was like a little bit less intense i don’t know what that is nutella no no no chocolate chocolate and tomato no it tastes like vomit that tastes like vomit it’s pre pre vomit all right rebecca de reca says great name green great name green peas are an acceptable addition to tuna salad yeah any way you can you could shove veggies into something where they don’t belong i’m for it i love green peas i think they’re delicious and you should throw them wherever you want especially in your tuna do you know there’s like a lot of people who really hate green peas no i guess because i i like never grew up with like hating a vegetable that much you know people like uh brussels sprouts i never had that no me neither i the only thing i really hated when i was young was uh raw tomato because i couldn’t get past the texture of the seeds but now i absolutely love tomato and i’ve always loved peas peas have always been one of my favorites even though i grew up eating canned peas which are just like it’s like a puree in molecular gastronomy spherical form because they’re so mushy um but now i love using frozen peas and throwing them in literally anything like i i was making just like a kind of kitchen scrap lasagna because i had lasagna noodles and a bunch of kitchen scraps to use up uh and i had some like bacon and chicken and mushrooms and i just like threw a bunch of green peas in that yeah and then posted a photo of me eating this lasagna covered in in ranch dressing because you eat pizza with ranch why not lasagna with ranch and i thought people were gonna be disgusted with the ranch dressing but they were just like who puts peas in a lasagna you are disgusting and i was like no it’s good i’m happy for you thank you thank you nicole for always accepting me for who i am you’re welcome all right we’re gonna go to cassiebear320 i sometimes like to rip and dip mostly but not exclusively the crusts of my pb and j sandwich and milk as one would do a cookie lots of people think it’s gross i think their palate is underdeveloped and can’t handle my genius i fully agree with this i make a i i will dip a peanut butter and whatever sandwich because i mostly eat peanut butter banana and honey uh although the other day i ran out of honey so i made simple syrup that i flavored with molasses and vanilla to give me a drizzle for it because i’m a fancy young boy are you gonna make a cocktail with that later oh yeah that’d be good and all you should you should yeah man in milk uh it’s like it’s like it’s like a janky choice lately cake you get to like suck that milk out of the bread and get a little bit of sweetness from the jelly or honey whatever’s on there i think i think they can’t handle your genius cassie but we can i appreciate your genius i wish i was this genius what i do something that i learned from one of my first culinary jobs uh shout out to yvonne one of my favorite people i’ve ever worked with she would take a slice of chocolate cake and saturate it in milk and she would call it milk cake she’d be like milk cake and she was really funny she was like one of the favorite people i’ve ever worked with and she’s like try this and i’m like what is it she goes milk cake and i’m like okay that’s just uno leche cake yeah and like literally i was like whoa this is delicious so sometimes i eat milk cake and i think of yvonne cause she was my favorite i’m down with milk cake okay let’s see what’s next hpf and m therapy favorite meal white rice yellow curry chicken with diced white onions raisins peanuts banana slices desiccated coconut pineapple tidbits okay this sounded like a regular you know curry plate curry plate and then it got into ambrosia salad territory real quick all you’re missing is some marshmallows and a midwest accent i know i i think this is a swede i think this is a nordic person because that for whatever reason so i i had a friend from sweden shout out to eda storm uh who once made me her favorite meal which was what she called chicken curry but she didn’t even have any curry powder she was out so that eliminated any amount of curry from it but she put banana and pineapple and canned pineapple in just like a chicken saucy dish uh and i think there was like yogurt mixed in as well but like to her that was chicken curry interesting and you see that on like swedish pizzas as well they’ll put like banana and pineapple on a shrimp pizza with curry powder yeah we’ve had that before yeah for whatever reason this like weird tropical fruit and curry powder thing became a combination uh in sweden maybe i’m misreading it and this is just hp fnm therapy’s own creation um i’ve had it’s not my favorite thing i think it’s a regionally defined taste that i have not quite acquired because that is a lot of fruit in a meat sauce i do love meat fruit but but this is a bridge too far too much fruit for the meat fruit too much fruit all right we got leah was here oh this is a spicy one any pizza that doesn’t have red sauce isn’t a pizza shut up shut up meg shut up lady well i mean this is a perfect example of what we talked about where pizza since there’s so much like regional identity tied up in it you’re just willing to like say lies right this is a lie i mean if you consider that pizza is an italian you know invention and that even predates italian statehood which is only in the 1800s like tomatoes didn’t even make its way out of north america until you know like the mid 1500s and so like people have been making pizzas for a long long long time that never had any sort of tomatoes they didn’t even freaking exist like you look back at street vendors in ancient rome i mean they were making things that look like pizzas today uh and then you look at the alfredo chicken pizza from olive garden that’s absolutely delicious i think it ain’t got any red sauce it’s definitely yeah absolutely delicious i think whoever says this stuff is myopic is that the correct word my opinion yeah quickly you are myopic and that is a good word to put on your scrabble board so get wrecked study for the sats y’all standardized testing the scan but you still got to do them proto-human says naked wings dipped in sauce are better than wings tossed in sauce all the flavor plus crispy skin huh it depends how important crispiness is to you because i like josh like the saturated crispy yumminess that comes with like a chicken wing that has the crispiness and the saturated sauciness on it so i don’t really agree because i like that that like texture and sensation a lot i totally agree with you i actually get really mad when someone advertises something as a buffalo wing and it is not completely doused in sauce to me that’s like that’s part of the pleasure of a buffalo wing is you get all the butter and the hot sauce that soaks into the chicken fat and the skin and then it gets smeared on your face no no and then you get to dip that into ranch and you can’t dip something into two sauces i’m i’m opposed to that ethically so no i’m not done there’s something about it like like cross-contaminating the salt like i’m saying like dipping the same bite into two different sauces then you cross-contaminate it it’s something i do with ketchup and ranch and ranch and hot sauce okay i guess i do it a lot yeah what are you talking about [Music] my point still stands all right at ethan yeats tuna salad made with miracle whip of course must be eaten with frito scoops like it’s a dip um yeah this is absolutely spot on uh one put some damn respect on the miracle whip name i don’t care if it’s not allowed to be called mayo it is a coleslaw flavored aioli and it is absolutely delicious two tuna salad to me if you look at tornado sauce right the northern italian tradition like it should be loose and dippable in my opinion i think tuna salad is more of a sauce than than a salad itself and i do believe it should be eaten as a dip even if it’s with toast points or just putting a slice of bread in your palm and pawing at a tub of tuna salad i think it’s a better dippable food than it is a sandwichable food uh no bro first of all i would like to quote kanye west uh mayonnaise colored benz i push miracle whips that’s all i wanted to say first and foremost i’ve never heard that line really that’s incredible yeah he’s he’s a real he’s a real artist um i’ve never i guess i just don’t realize the difference between mayonnaise and miracle whip like i haven’t done a side-by-side comparison before so maybe that can be our next experiment in the mythical kitchen and then uh i love tuna salad i grew up eating tuna salad in everything because i was a good kosher girl and then i started to eat a pork and i was a bad girl but i mean i i like taking chips and dipping it into tuna salad so i agree but again i don’t i guess i’m just not a miracle whip girl i guess i don’t know yo my gran my grandma makes a tuna dip it’s like her like 1970s party recipe that for whatever reason has gelatin but it’s not like a jello thing but there’s gelatin in the recipe to give it this just weird thick mouth feel and condensed it’s like tuna gelatin and condensed cream of mushroom soup in mayonnaise and sour cream and it is absolutely delicious shout out to granny for the mushroom tuna salad dip that made my acid reflux act up all right last one cosmetic nomad 42 says do drink opinions count yes they do because if so i like mixing coke with sprite you you’re crazy causing cosmic you’re you’re wild i like you but you’re wild i’ve never done this before oh really what i’ve done no what i’ve done before is i’ve mixed them all like at like you know the store yeah oh yeah yeah yeah being the food store that i’m thinking about i i have mixed coke with sprite and it weirdly tastes like cream soda to me it has this like vanilla quality to it um but i i am fascinated by the flavor chemistry behind like you said when you just run your cup through every single option at a soda fountain yeah there are three there are three flavors that come through you get the aspartame from the whatever diet drink was on there you get the scent of root beer and then you get the citric acid from lemonade so it’s like everything else doesn’t matter if you just combine diet coke root beer and lemonade that would taste like the entire panoply the smorgasbord of soda selections and i’m fascinated by it you know that one random thing that you forgot to mention josh that that like high sea stuff that fruit juice stuff that’s like in there i think i think i see they pulled it out of mcdonald’s officially that’s wrong i used to prefer that to orange juice with my mcdonald’s breakfast when i was a kid that’s how like nutritionally devoid i was where i tasted real juice and i was like ugh gross and then i had just the orange sugary high seed that’s just corn syrup citric acid and food dye and i was like yes this is what a drink should taste like and i stand by that it’s delicious and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dogs sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzade with the hashtag opinioncasserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen we’ll see you next time can i eat lunch now [Music] thanks for listening to this episode of hot dogs as a sandwich and hey before you go we wanted to remind you that season 2 of stevie’s podcast best friend’s back all right is underway this season expands on stevie and negan’s friendship from last season but explores all new themes and ideas yeah episodes will feature an open conversation with a gynecologist who just happens to be nakeen’s sister the ins and outs of eel sex and a deep dive into the most embarrassing items to 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