[Music] instagram a feast for the eyes are an unwelcome interruption to your sunday brunch take the picture karen my quinoa frittata’s getting cold today we ask is instagram ruining food this is a hot dog is the sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich well it’s been a while but we are back up and running from our respective homes with this quarantine edition of a hot dog is a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendizade and today we’re answering the question is instagram ruining food nicole what do you think no i don’t i don’t think it is yeah i believe instagram is ruining food uh which is a new revelation for me and i have been on the record as saying instagram is not ruining food before but i have changed since then my positions have evolved i have evolved as a person i have more body hair now um especially during quarantine when i’m not shaving because i have no one to impress but yeah i believe instagram is ruining food obviously it’s a very complicated issue okay so first to really break down the question i like how i start everything with to break down the question what is macaroni now to break down the question of instagram ruining food we have to like decide you know when food was great not to get political on maine here when we’re talking about his instagram ruining food i think the larger discussion here is like what is the role of food media and how is that actually either helping or hurting people instagram is a microcosm of all this and like you and i are obviously a big part of this this is somewhat personal appreciation i see you instagram i see you you instagram your eyebrow tutorials you also instagram your delicious foods that you cook so we’re both a part of this josh i’m on instagram right now literally scrolling as you speak thank you for paying me the respect that i deserve which is roughly enough no prob no problem yeah i mean i i personally think that i mean if it wasn’t for instagram i wouldn’t have a job not to get anecdotal on it not to get anecdotal on maine but if it wasn’t for instagram you would have never seen my body of work and then you would have never hired me so i think instagram is wonderful for the food industry and i don’t think it ruins it at all if i didn’t have instagram i wouldn’t know at least 70 percent of the the food industry people that i know now it really has helped connect and opened my eyes to a lot of new different ways of cooking yeah there’s some perversion in there don’t get me wrong i know you know deep frying a pizza and then slapping some chicken tendies on it and then deep frying it again and then putting nachos on it and then deep frying it again and then putting a caesar salad on it is wrong i’m not gonna lie to you it’s it’s a little perverted and i understand that but the benefits of instagram and what it does for food definitely outweighs the crappy stuff nicole i used to be like you believe me i used to believe the same thing because i mean instagram anything on social media in all forms of media they give you a sense of community they kind of give you a tribe people that share your same interests and food has obviously become a huge part of that but at what point does a tribe and a community become a clique and at what point does you know a simple interest that one everybody should have like cooking is a basic skill that literally everyone should know but i think instagram has kind of elevated it to the somewhat exclusive thing you’ve seen a lot of people especially during quarantine i think a lot of people have you know one been faced with the idea that like oh crap i have to cook all the time now and i can’t go out to restaurants but then two there have been a lot of people who say they’re intimidated by certain things like sourdough bread baking you have all these people posting their gorgeous pictures of food and then rather than that inspiring people to make it it intimidates them and that’s another thing is that instagram always favors the beautiful which is kind of a problem and a thing that you and i deal with on the daily whenever you’re making content for the internet as far as food goes you need to constantly be thinking about like what looks the best what sounds the best what’s going to get the most eyes on it because that’s literally it’s first yeah i mean what is it eyes eat first food the food is cannibalizing the food the food eats first the chili fries are eating the pizza the caesar salad is getting eaten by the corn dog yeah the the camera eats first yeah phone eats first i think that’s what you say all the time that happens when i drop my phone into a vat of nacho cheese the phone eats first yes yes that’s but yeah correct and there’s something like vaguely not even vaguely there’s something incredibly disgusting about that idea that i’ve turned into that person realizing during quarantine how cooking is such a basic skill that literally everyone needs i think we need to have classes on it in school i think it’s something that literally everyone should be able to do like laundry or taxes but now we’ve turned it into do you know how to do your taxes you know how to do your taxes dude no but i should i maybe if there was an instagram for taxes we would all be good on yo if there was an ins you know i think there is an instagram for taxes but they wear suits and like that’s just really intimidating like don’t wear a suit on instagram live you know like if you’re wearing like a t-shirt and jeans talking about like uh like property tax and like how to file by a certain date like i would care about that but like they wear suits and stuff it’s weird wait who are these instagram tax people i’ll send you their links please because i have no idea how to do it and i think it’s coming up yeah you already pass uh yeah i think it was april 18th i don’t know my dad does my taxes for me he um will your dad do my taxes for me yeah he’s actually very very intuitive with these things it’s quite shocking nicole i’ll give you any financial document you need from me that’s totally fine forward it to morris all right so when we’re talking about letting essentially an algorithm decide what food content that people see or don’t see which means what food is important to them and what is not i think that’s where we run into a really weird problem because like you said with the deep fried nacho pizza blah blah blah it’s not just that that stuff is you know i don’t know unhealthy some people have made that argument like instagram favors unhealthy food which i don’t care about that at all but the fact that it’s favoring things that are very complicated things that are spectacular things that are not simple sensationalized sensationalized food content sensationalized food content look at what look at what’s happened to the food network i spoke earlier about you know when was food great i think a lot of people me and you included maybe over romanticize the kind of like early 2000s with the food network and you know we grew up learning to cook from rachel ray and alton brown and you know tyler florence all these people and then now every food network show is like we’ve tied the chef’s hands behind his back blindfolded him and put him in a kiddie pool now he has to try and make a souffle and alton brownies become this like circus ringleader character and so you know food network had to kind of sensationalize their things to keep up ratings there was an exact one that was quoted as saying uh our job is not to teach people how to cook it’s to get people to watch television and to me that’s how i view instagram and kind of i don’t know our jobs in general is like our is our job to teach people how to cook which would be very very helpful or is it our job to get eyes on these images of food so they’re two very different things i think we i mean just you and i in just the mythical kitchen in general i think has a good balance of both of being outlandish and uh downright stupid and for entertainment purposes only and then having you know that educational snippet here and there or else you know the hashtag that we created dreams become food wouldn’t have over 500 you know reiterations of it people are actually learning you know it’s it depends you can follow whatever content you want on instagram there’s only like one food network so like you can just watch that channel and get whatever you want from it but instagram you have the ability to follow whoever you want you can follow people that inspire you you can follow people that um you know teach you you can follow people that you know they have a raw vegan diet and they use things like uh blue p blue what is that blue powder blue powdered butterfly pea powder yeah like like using like really cool ingredients that you wouldn’t see all the time you know doing cool things like making an avocado rose like i don’t know how to do that i never knew how to do that but i watched it it was a tutorial on instagram and i learned it and i think there’s you can pick and choose the thing about instagram is that it creates you have the ability to choose and then there’s also the explore page that like really really shows you the content that you would like algorithmly like and it creates this really really cool like feed that you can see what you want and what you enjoy and i think that’s a benefit you know you can customize what you see food wise and i think that’s awesome it is true and i get it and this is a very kind of uh subtle this is a very this is a touchy argument right because youtube youtube gotten itself in a lot of hot water and this is like very kind of deep media nerd stuff got itself in a lot of hot water because people noticed as trending videos that are served to you on an algorithm basis they kind of keep getting more and more extreme because that’s what you naturally crave right when you go onto your instagram discover page you’re not like oh there’s a simple salad and a salad dressing it’s just like yo what’s that pizza topped with a bunch of fries or like what is that beautifully articulated avocado rose what is this bright blue thing what’s gonna catch your eye first right and so you kind of think you’re choosing but how much choice do you really have nicole does free will exist or are we all just doomed and predestined from god aka the algorithm josh did you know that when i used to go to cpk when i was little i would take a pizza and now put french fries on it so when you said that it took me back to a really specific food memory i had which is really helpful because you know instagram doesn’t ruin food it like reminds you like oh my god do you remember that time when like we went to that place and they had a really great like poached egg you can learn do you know how many people know how to poach an egg now because of instagram i’m not kidding the actual caliber of people learning about food from instagram has grown exponentially i don’t have the data but if i ask someone five years ago do you know how to poach an egg and if i ask them now they’re like yeah not a pro genetic that’s because instagram has created this universe where yeah maybe maybe the content is not exactly you know hand-picked there is an algorithm that assists you in liking what you like but you know that’s another podcast for another another day the matrix is real no but but what if you but what if you had the actual data to support that because millennials cook less than any other generation millennials are also the first generation to ever spend more on food eating out than they do at home which is you know a double-edged sword that’s a very great thing for the restaurant industry right a lot of people make that argument that instagram uh on or that food on instagram has been great for the restaurant industry because it supports the restaurant dominique said that it’s giving her exposure and she’s a legit fine dining chef so it’s not just novelty foods and i think that gets overstated a little bit like it’s not just novelty foods on instagram that’s other things but has the restaurant industry actually gotten any better for people have people actually learned how to cook more the data doesn’t suggest that they have well what does that mean i don’t know my whole argument is ruined josh no i mean it’s it’s not because i mean it’s it’s there are obviously other factors that play here economic factors and all that but yeah that was i told you i wrote this article a while ago that said that um instagramming everything you eat is a good thing for society because any time you see an image of food you’re more interested in learning about that food so you’re going to be interested in the farming of it you know chefs now are multi-millionaires and they’re media stars you look at david chang jose andres all these people but then i think i’m just down in the dumps from the whole quarantine thing and seeing what’s happening to the restaurant industry but it’s like if now these people are multi-millionaires and stars and they’re all these good people that control such a huge you know lion share of the restaurant industry then like dang two weeks of restaurants closed just put like uh 80 percent of workers out of business people that didn’t have that’s horrific all the stuff so we’re sitting over here saying like yeah instagram a picture of that restaurant dish it’s helping the restaurant that’s awesome you know giving them support and then the industry just collapses and obviously this is an economic issue this isn’t about instagram itself but for me exposed a bit of the fallacy of saying like we’re doing a good job just by posting images of food there’s a lot of deeper layers there yeah i think posting images of food is is another factor you know the marketing that it did for restaurants whenever it was pre-quarantined time was was really helpful i think for those restaurants all throughout the world you know i follow this uh this risotto restaurant in florence italy that i had no idea it existed until i randomly saw it on my explore page and they do like grapefruit risotto like with candied walnuts and stuff and i just think that’s so interesting and like i would have never known about this place if it wasn’t for instagram but when you said uh um like you said a lot of good things about like how it helped like dominique and like other like like really really important chefs in the industry what kind of uh food on instagram bothers you is my question like why do you think it’s ruining like food in general not the restaurant industry or like not like necessarily the food stylist industry or whatever like what is it about ig food that really like pisses you off i mean there’s your classic instagram there’s your classic instagrammy foods like the whole rainbow movement where people would just add food dyes to cheese and then put it in a grilled cheese and do that like cheese pull and it just looks like a unicorn vomited into a slice of bread stuff like that i don’t think but do you think that ruined grilled cheese for you i don’t think it ruined grilled cheese but to me it’s the precedent that it set where it’s like images are more important than actual food right that to me is the issue in this i mean if you look at david chang’s show ugly delicious i i love the yes the thesis behind that which is just like ugly food what we consider quote-unquote ugly is really really delicious and it is very valid and you’re gonna post a picture of this south indian stew on your instagram and maybe it just looks brown and people aren’t going to click like on it but it could be the most delicious food that you’ve ever eaten so food that takes you know the image being more important than the actual taste it’s tough and again we say this as people who this is exactly what we do and so it’s it’s kind of weird to even be talking about it and maybe this will never even go to air and we’re just going to shut this down entirely but i think what it comes down to for me like you said instagram is a place where you can curate what you are actually seeing to me then it becomes a responsibility on the actual creators of that to make it very clear that like this is a dish that may not look good it is very very important and you have a responsibility to actually you know curate the experiences like you said i do think we we try and strike a balance of like here is education about food and even if we get people into a video by making you know uh i don’t know an oreo biscuit that giant oreo that looks like a bisque and all that you know we’re actually teaching people about technique and stuff like that in the history of food and i think how to consume food ethically in some ways at least and so i think this all comes down to responsibility of the actual creators of food content i do agree i think i think the responsibility of the creators there but you know some people their sole purpose for example yummy.com is a great example their main purpose is to just throw stuff to instagram and have people watch it a lot of the times the things they do are not safe have you seen those yummy.com videos where they uh put caramel on like a hot stove and they tell people that makes a candy in my heart i’m like no no don’t do that that’s a i’m like no this is horrific and people but people aren’t recreating that you know they’re watching it because it’s interesting to watch like oh my gosh this person took caramel and they made a made a cookie out of it that’s crazy there’s no way like scientifically that could actually happen that’s just a food styling thing i would know because i did that a long time ago and i lied to the general public but like it’s just for entertainment purposes and i feel like like one day people will be smart enough to know that this content from this place is for entertainment purposes not necessarily to duplicate and learn you know what i mean this is like uh was it charles barkley who’s like i’m not a role model i didn’t ask for your kids to look up to me this is something i’ll talk about sports okay okay this is like uh no you don’t play video games either man our references really don’t hit with each other no but no they don’t this is i suppose somewhat the argument of like violent video games like teens should teens people know the difference between video violence and violence in real life people know the difference between content that is just made for entertainment and things you should actually do at home so you’re saying this yeah well you hope that yeah that makes sense i mean i do think that that’s a really really interesting development that we haven’t seen because even back in our day when we were growing up with food network they weren’t just entertainment first there was nothing that like every even every cooking show out there with very entertaining hosts and all that it was still informative and the idea was here’s a recipe that you are going to make i remember the first thing that i watched where i realized that oh food can be purely a form of entertainment it was epic meal time and i like yeah 100 yeah that was a huge moment for me where i was like you’re doing these things that i could never do and i am going to sit here and watch every single minute of it and love it and be delighted and it’s never going to actually affect my real life in the way that like i’m not gonna what did they do they like stuffed a duck inside of a chicken inside of a turkey inside of a whole pig and then wrapped it in bacon yeah that sounds uh on brand for them yeah and that was awesome and like you said earlier you wouldn’t have this career without instagram i wouldn’t have this career without one instagram but two that inspiration from epic meal time and i think there is value in teaching people to play with their food and that food is fun and it’s kind of silly and stupid sometimes but then where does that you know intersect with the idea that like food is a basic skill and necessity well that’s the thing instagram has all of that instagram has the informative it has the entertaining it has the outlandish it has the disgusting i mean we make eyeball pasta man who’s gonna make eyeball pasta literally no one i didn’t want to make eyeballs i mean i wanted to make it it was fun it was delicious and shout out to ryan for sourcing the eyeballs that seemed so long ago i mean it’s just it’s just i don’t i mean i love that big meal time guys i think what they did in terms of like outlandish food was so unique and so wonderful and like honestly props to harley hartley’s name yeah shout out to harley morenstein really morning friend of the show awesome dude yeah like what he did for like the food world i think was awesome it was outlandish and it was in your face and at times it was like disgusting but i like you said he was definitely inspirational and people like him aka people like us i think really inspire people through the medium of instagram and youtube and things like that so i think it does help a lot of people and i think it creates this really cool environment where people are experimenting like you said but you know things like bon appetit god bless them like they have people teaching they have people teaching other people how to cook pasta until it’s al dente like that exists out there like people teaching people how to do really really simple things and then there’s the opposite of the spectrum of you know deep frying a pizza so i think instagram is doing amazing things for food josh i really do i think i just had an epiphany what is it so talking about food for entertainment purposes i i remember back in college i would watch epic meal time all the time i was living in a house of like nine other dudes is this duplex in santa barbara and we actually we didn’t recreate an epic mail time thing but we took inspiration from it and i was already cooking a lot back then and i made this like 40 pound quiche for some reason for my friend’s birthday that had a bunch of hot pockets and big macs shoved into the quiche neither here nor there uh but i remember none of my roommates really cooked they would always get takeout from a local place uh and then i started making these like weird outlandish things especially when we were drinking and i’m realizing now that that was the carrot that kind of got them in the door to cooking and that’s really there you go i literally like it’s awesome i i remember all my roommates coming up to me and being like hey man like how do you make that i was making like sloppy joes or something and i taught them how to all together they were all gathered around the kitchen i taught them how to chop a red onion and tomatoes and saute it and i remember after that all of my roommates went out and bought red onions and tomatoes from costco no less and so we just had like 30 red onions and tomatoes it was the first time a lot of them had ever cooked with fresh vegetables and it’s funny seeing that the beginning of that journey was like an epic meal time inspired chicken nugget quiche fest there you go josh that’s amazing you’ve always been a teacher at heart haven’t you yeah you know i used to work with children nicole that’s why i’m so patient with you i feel like children scare the crap out of you my first job ever was being a kid science teacher for a camp called destination science and the children’s oh yeah you told me this the children scared the crap out of me i’m so bad with kids because i try and get them to like me and then i lose their respect in less than a day in eight i used to be like you i used to be like you and then you know what you just gotta go in with confidence and be like hey my name is josh you’re gonna listen to me that’s how i do it like i make sure my voice goes into a baritone and i refer to myself as josh it works really really well you’re gonna listen to me my name’s josh where is she my name is george where is she does that make sense i guess what we’re really talking about nicole it’s not it’s not instagram it’s not instagram ruining food that’s not even the question instagram is merely a reflection of us it is the black mirror from which we look into and see ourselves our behaviors reflected back at us it’s not instagram that needs to change it’s us you are what you attract and if you’re attracting a deep fried pizza topped with chicken tenders deep fried again chopped with nachos deep fried again topped with a caesar salad you suck and you need to reevaluate yourself stop that’s going to be the next episode on mythical kitchen as we’re making that dish [Music] nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions casseroles why do you laugh in the middle of it bro dude it’s the li it’s the lag time in a video call that just makes it sound so stupid in my head [Music] all right we’re going to start with a shady opinion from 80s mclaughlin is that the rhett mclaughlin probably not i like wrapping i like wrapping pickle slices and tortilla wraps and eating it as a burrito i i don’t know so like i call that a do you call that a burrito that’s a wrap i’m confused so they put pickle slices in the tortilla or they put the tortilla in the pickle slice no no they’re literally just throwing a bunch of pickle slices it has to be a slice which i would throw a whole pickle in the tortilla and wrap it up because then you get more pickle surface area touching it the wrap the the slices are going to give you air pockets so i don’t like their execution already but they wrap pickle slices and tortillas and then they eat it by itself uh just eat the pickle by itself like no need for that extra carbohydrate it’s like it’s like a mezza plate you know like you get your pickles and you get your lavash and then you’re just eating those together i’m for it it’s a little sad if you think about it that’s kind of a struggle meal it’s a little sad okay next uh bean boret okay i eat everything cold beans cold chicken cold spaghetti cold mashed potatoes cold cauliflower cold everyone thinks it’s weird and while they aren’t wrong i simply prefer my food’s cold um i’m wondering if this is a tooth sensitivity thing yet again it seems like all these people have preferences due to like medical issues is that wrong of me to like pre-determine i don’t know i guess it’s like how i don’t eat gummies because i have i have fillings that are loose and they’ll fall out i think it is a little a little premature to make that judgment that this is all about teeth sensitivity also cold food is often what your teeth are sensitive to so why would they eat everything cold maybe they got hot mouth syndrome they got a hot mouth syndrome that is not something i’d ever want to be accused of um i have a friend named chad he’s my best friend and he eats uh everything cold as well including mashed potatoes and i’ve always thought he was very weird for it but he’s still one of my best friends so bean boy rhett i think you’re weird but you could still be one of my best friends if chad is any indication all right so we got at skelem84 a peanut butter sandwich on the cheapest white bread you can find paired with a bowl of chili yep same rules as chili and cornbread same rules as the chili and uh cinnamon roll thing which i found out sarah whittle from smosh grew up on eating in her cafeteria same rules you take something a little bit sweet a little bit cakey even though peanut butter is not inherently sweet and then you eat it with spicy chili that sounds delicious to me i put peanut butter in my chili so dipping a peanut butter sandwich into it i am doing that the next time i get chili shout out skelem84 you’re a freaking genius i guess i just wasn’t raised on chili you know so this is all very odd to me very very odd uh i i don’t know if i want to try it i’m sorry skelem84 there’s persian chili what is persian chili uh game damn it it’s lentils dog dude there’s beans and chili game is persian chili cream is lentils but that’s you can make lentil chili like all the fitness bloggers if you like what makes lentil chili if you’re making lentil chili you need to reevaluate your life you’re actually making gamma okay next up is real sam haddock is it against the rules to put blueberry pancake batter in a 9×9 cake pan and cook it on 350 for 12 minutes cut it into rectangles and pour honey on it to make blueberry cake bars absolutely not that sounds delicious and actually sounds like a great little food hack if you ask me that’s brilliant this is weird because i think that’s a terrible idea is that it’s shocking because i’m normally the person who has terrible ideas and not the person who’s judging them but no here’s here’s my problem with it a pancake is a pancake for a reason the batter is different than actual cake better for a reason it has less sugar in it so you can like put it in a pan and get direct heat contact on it so it doesn’t caramelize if you’ve ever tried to just pan fry a cake batter it burns before it actually cooks but pancake batter doesn’t cake batter is best baked pancake batter is best fried in a pan so when you’re baking pancake batter all you’re doing is making a less good cake that that’s my opinion but the blueberries make it sweet so it’s good it sounds nice like i would definitely eat it but you know it’s one of those things where it’s like a tool exists for a specific purpose for a reason i’d just rather have pancakes and yes real sam hatcock it is against the rules you should be put in jail for that oh my gosh all right just jesse h leftover chinese food is so much better a day later and eating cold than it is fresh i i would i don’t know this is disrespectful i man i’m a negative nelly today this is happening come on josh smile what’s wrong with you i think it’s because my room smells so bad and that’s where i’m recording from because the room is also my gym and i got under open a window i can’t it’s gonna mess with the audio they’re doing uh yard work outside in the common areas that are completely closed in my apartment which is great uh but no love to pretend i think you have some sort of a duty to eat food as it is meant to be prepared by the chef so if they’re saying this dish is better hot then you kind of have a duty to eat a hot and there’s a lot of really great cold chinese food dishes especially those little like szechuan appetizers like the uh what’s the like acorn jelly with uh szechuan peppercorn chili oil on it yes that’s absolutely i know exactly what you’re talking about if you like to eat chinese food cold and like i’ve taken some bites of orange chicken from panda cold from the fridge it is pretty good i don’t think it’s better a day later that said live your life just jessie h i think it’s good either way underscore neeners truffle anything tastes like vomit and i’m convinced people just pretend to like it like it to seem fancy okay i lowkey agree with you truffle is um a very intense flavor and people like to pretend they don’t pretend i don’t think people like pretend to like food i just think truffle is a ingredient that’s best used sparingly and that’s where i stand don’t overload your food with truffle have a little bit of common decency i think truffle does taste like vomit and i do think that people pretend to like certain things just to seem fancy but i don’t know where you like the taste of vomit yeah yeah yeah i mean not fresh vomit i like the truffle taste vomit i like truffles it’s a very it’s a somewhat it’s a somewhat offensive flavor but like i mean when you were a kid and you tried beer for the first time it was like ew gross it’s soda but not sweet and tastes like old bread and so you grow to learn these things do you consider that to be pretending to like them to the point where you actually do like them like faking it until you make it i don’t know that’s a whole other discussion i suppose uh but i do think there’s some truth that people like things to seem more interesting or fancier than they actually are that said i’m also one of those people so i love truffles and caviar deal with that okay she cool like that what i’m sorry i pre-reacted to this one dipping string cheese in chocolate pudding that’s nasty i don’t know i’m trying to imagine it wait have you had like uh was it kanapha kennefe yes i have it’s quite delicious that’s like a pretty stringy cheese with a bunch of delicious like sweet honey and stuff on it right it’s not chocolate pudding no but i’m trying to draw the like commonality between the two so would you it is not the same would you dip string cheese and honey yeah i have before honey is just chocolate pudding made by bees that’s my opinion casserole honey is chocolate pudding but made by bees and that’s i’m sorry and that’s facts nicole underscore korean queen chicken and mushroom pizza with garlic parmesan sauce instead of marinara is the best it’s like a mini possible but flat opinion casserole korean queen this sounds good like like that sounds uh like delicious i give you a high five i’m laughing it it’s like a bowl but flat girl girl that’s called a plate it exists i’m stupid no but i i do completely agree with her i love me not just like a white sauce pizza that’s like you know oh this is from this region italy no i love like a garlic cream alfredo sauce with chicken and bacon and all that on pizza that sounds delicious right now i might try and make one for lunch all right at pugtado1013 spicy nacho doritos inside a fried pb and j the most delicious sandwich uh yeah convinced yeah yeah i love putting chips in my sandwiches a lot spicy nacho’s an underrated flavor of dorito too it doesn’t have like burn your mouth heat but it’s just a little bit more exciting than nacho cheese spicy nachos maybe the unsung hero of the dorito universe agreed there’s a lot of peanut butter content yeah half of the half of the opinions that we get are just people eating peanut butter sandwiches with different things on them it’s it’s quite inundated with peanut butter i can’t handle it okay ne nepy nut is that how you say that uh that’s how i choose to say it never nut nip neep nut neep nut says i don’t know how weird this is but spaghettios with meatballs are far superior to meatballs spaghettios which are just sad both of those sound very sad and i can’t help you because i’ve never had spaghettios oh my god okay i know exactly what they’re talking about when i was a kid spaghettios with meatballs are a little bit more expensive so i always like thought that they were very fancy and for fancy rich people so when i was a kid anytime they went on sale i would like crave the spaghettios with meatballs and i tried to eat one as an adult and uh the meatballs aren’t exactly your artisanal pulpete from your osteria down the street they kind of taste like dog food do i still think they’re better no i’m gonna say original spaghettios are better i want the purity i don’t need that extra meat if i want protein i’ll drink a protein shake um what does spaghettios taste like are they like sweet have you ever you dude they are so sweet have you ever had um uh campbell’s tomato soup yes all right so imagine you take equal parts corn syrup and campbell’s tomato soup and then you overcook and then you overcook pasta rings into absolute oblivion so you don’t have to chew them and that’s spaghettios uh i do not like that kind of vanilla okay they’re a canned product like this isn’t an elitist thing like i love canned dinty more beef stew i think that stuff is delicious so do i it’s so good uh i love really good corned beef hash in a can to me any artisanal corned beef hash will never recreate the flavor of canned corned beef hash but spaghettios are a thing for me that like even when i was a kid i didn’t even like him that much i just craved him because i thought rich people ate them inexplicably cool is it my turn okay uh no it’s my turn i’m gonna go to smosh the like mayo chop is a superior condiment but not like the pre-mixed stuff though yup uh yep it’s quite it’s quite dank big fan but it’s funny that they called it mayo chup because like a half quote unquote secret sauces ninety percent of the actual ingredients are just mayonnaise and ketchup right like thousand island you add some pickled pickles to it uh russian dressing some say it doesn’t have ketchup in it but all these things in utah they call it fry sauce in argentina they call it salsa rosa i believe there’s like 90 different names for mayonnaise and ketchup mixed together uh salsa de gulf yes salsa the gulf in argentina right in argentina uh yeah i think it’s argentina yeah i think puerto rico’s salsa rosa but the point is like everyone around the world can’t be wrong mayonnaise and ketchup is such a delicious sauce best thing to put on fries agreed twins play door sauce is a culinary masterpiece you can never make the same door sauce twice so it’s always a new experience different sauce ratios quality and combinations of sauces faced with a monocle let’s break this down door sauce what they seem to be implying is that you open your fridge door and you take a couple different sauces and you combine them together i respect it i respect the end it’s absolutely true like i do that all the time i’ll do like you know ranch dressing salsa fish sauce hot sauce mix it together and it always turns out really good agreed i think this is a brilliant way to like uh like name the thing that we always do what’s it called when you give something like a proper name uh canonize yes we have canonized the process boys and girls door sauce store sauce 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