ramble hey before we get into today’s episode we want to tell you about good mythical evening for one night only we are bringing you good mythical evening streaming exclusively on moment house get your ticket for a most indecent sloshy and random show that takes our classic good mythical morning favorites and torches the rule book the show is live september 1st to jumpstart the labor day weekend tickets are on sale right now at goodmythicalevening.com anthony bourdain once said the in-n-out was his favorite restaurant in la and people from all over the country flock to the west coast for animal style goodness but are the burgers and fries worth a hyper is in and out kind of overrated this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs is a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendezada and today we are talking about is in and out overrated why because you because you because the type of people who immediately cut off the conversation because they have i’m not trying to pull like facts don’t care about your feelings but if you have your emotional attachment level is too high to in and out to render a fair judgment it’s not i could tell you wouldn’t even let me finish this i assume that i have an emotional attachment is it because i’m a woman oh my god no do not no we respect i don’t even see gender or i just think that people is is people and hey welcome to a hot dog the sandwich the show we break down no because when i started saying is in and out overrated you immediately cut me out you wouldn’t even know because it’s not it’s good of course it’s good but that’s not how it’s rated it is rated as transcendent oh my god who said that it is in and out is is who said that in and out is exalted as a god to your restaurant i mean the anthony bourdain thing for me is really big and obviously i mean he loves in and out and there’s no reason to me not to love in and out i love in and out and i am comfortable saying that i’m not comfortable saying i love you to like a family member or anything but i’m comfortable saying it to this fast food chain absolutely and it’s a big part of my childhood but the question isn’t like do we love it it’s is it overrated and so when people like anthony bourdain you know say that it’s his favorite restaurant in l.a that it’s his first stop after he gets off i remember yeah yeah it was you know awesome uh but so many of his like fans and then you know in and out is such a photogenic thing that it’s become like a clout chasing photo on instagram when you come to the west coast right i mean you know the cute photo they got the little red rappers with with the palm tree logos on it and you know people take a the thing with the cheese dripping of the double double yeah and then the influencers throw it away and walk away they don’t throw it away it’s an emo it’s it’s an experience you’re going for the full california experience it’s the long lines it’s the fantastic customer service it’s the crappy french fries delicious burger it is what it is it is what it is but i think it has been risen to such unrealistic expectations by people that now i think you’re seeing this like backlash against it where you’ll get like a bunch of people and this happens with everything right this is the the scarcity complex this is the same thing behind the mcrib where like people make rib do not compare the mick ribbed in and out is the make rib of fast food they’ve created they’ve created an artificial scarcity that has caused people to wait in lines it’s also what they mean they call it a line theory at clubs right yeah sure i understand like they don’t uh they like string theory just like string theory no you like i was going to jokingly explain string theory but i have no idea with stephen hawking in space or relative i don’t know my teacher told me to watch it one time and it has to do with force gump and i’m like okay yeah i don’t know weird uh but no i understand what you say when it’s like the hype you think it’s over hype you see a line you want to stand in it because you want to figure out what other people are standing in line for i but i feel like the line is worth it i i’ve stood in a not stood i thought you were lining up for in and out like in person just scooting on your butt like a dog that has worms no no no no i’m talking about like the drive-through lines i’m not talking about the lines out the door i never experienced that because i used to go to the indiana westwood and i knew the times of the popularity and then that’s popularity wait you know what you know what sucks we never talked about our favorite in and out order first foremost tell the people and me what your favorite order is okay so my in and out order has changed over the years depending on how bulky i wanted to be at the time okay so when i was a teen and i was like i really wanted to be bulky so i could throw a shot put far it was two double doubles chopped chilies onions two ways and animal style fries with a large diet coke why the diet coke if i was already doing that unclear more of a symbolic gesture at that point but onions two ways are both raw and grilled which to me is perfect because you get the best of both worlds and again i love in and out and you get the chopped chilies on there for the secret menu yeah i mean it’s just it’s fantastic it is a very well-cooked well-proportioned fresh burger at a fantastic price point so why do you think it’s overrated if you love it so much because okay so so here’s a big thing right in and out like i said it’s a fantastic price point if that burger was 12 to 15 yeah it’s a three dollar burger it’s a three dollar burger and it is what it is which is a three dollar burger the question is does any three dollar burger deserve to be risen to a certain level so when shake shack right which is a new york-based burger chain started by danny meyer i mean that was founded in the 2000s when shake shack came out to la it spawned so many articles that were like shake shack versus internet which one is better and then everyone would eat a shake shack burger they’d be like there’s twice as much meat and the meat’s way better and more fresher and they use a softer bun and shake shack’s way better it’s like yeah it was started 55 years later and cost two and a half times as much they have craft freaking beer on tape they are not comparable yeah no you can’t you can’t do that no and so like in and outs comparison should be mcdonald’s yeah i think that’s totally fair they’re at the same price point they were started around the same time yeah in the same area too the first mcdonald’s stand was 1948 in san bernardino and the first in and out was 1948 in baldwin park so like those are the contemporaries do you ever go to like the first in and out i’ve never been i don’t know i used to work in ontario i used to live in ontario for like a month what i don’t know i worked there for three months and i was like why am i driving an hour and 12 minutes um and like i would go to that in and now that was like the first in and out and then sometimes i’d go to the in-n-out university and i’d just look wait where’s the in-n-out university i don’t know i don’t know somewhere in between my house and ontario that’s interesting because i i think so the in-n-out university was open sometime in the 80s like 35 math is hard 30-something years it is in baldwin yeah and so that was you know the the essentially the training center they opened up for managers which is another huge part of in-n-out success is how well they are run which is absolutely true i think the way that their operation like performs it’s amazing it’s a performance the way that they treat their employees is amazing the way that they treat their managers is amazing even i think they hand sheath the lettuce josh you told me that 15 minutes ago i literally walked and we were waiting to take over the podcast stream where i just go up to nicole like they hand sheath the lettuce and she just goes i could have told you that and i was like okay you didn’t even ask me what my favorite not order is oh my sorry what’s your what’s your internet order okay so my favorite in another order is as follows it’s a cheeseburger stop laughing i didn’t even see it it’s a cheeseburger animal style extra pickles extra sauce bun well done so in and out does not put pickles on their standard burger which i respect because i don’t want pickles oh if you’ve only ordered animal style you wouldn’t know that i wouldn’t know that no yeah so they have pickles only for animal style orders and so it’s animal style extra spread and mustard grilled patty and grilled onions but you’re getting extra pickles on the extra sauce hey dog i heard you hey dog i heard you like that just that did not sound like exhibit at all no i’m not even going to continue that sounds like a billy goat you know what i felt like a bridge troll hey dog you must pay the troll tool my one of my big star struck moments in burbank was running into caesar milan the dog whisperer in the coffee shop wow yeah and another one was it romancing the bean no i’ve never been there it’s um it’s just called like it’s called simply coffee oh yeah it’s really nice owned by two by two ladies uh you know one of your cold brew with a smile i really like him caesar milan goes there my and my other big moment was when i thought i saw brad pitt at the pavilions and so much so that i brought it up in a company-wide meeting and said i’m pretty sure i i saw brad pitt and then zac rezawali just goes no that’s just a guy that kind of looks like brad pitt i’ve seen him too like okay but anyways what i was talking about hold on was when i was driving to the walmart and i passed uh west coast customs oh that’s the original auto body shop apparently just talking about burbank i will tell you a story about in-n-out so again in-n-out has gotten elevated by i mean celebrities right everywhere so there were a bunch of stories of celebrities like ordering in and out to be delivered to like the oscars and stuff yeah or there was like i know the vogue after party one year had in and out catered and so yeah the truck yeah they had that truck those trucks are awesome i’ve been to so many parties where they bring in not trucks i’ve been to so many apartments it’s such a huge [ ] part of southern california life for us so we grew up with that attachment to it yeah but anyways once after after the oscars i went to the in and out in hollywood and i sat there for four hours with my camera and a single order of fries waiting for celebrities to walk in and none did were you trying to be a paparazzo no i was writing a very silly article for los angeles magazine um then i was trying to catch a celebrity in and out after the oscars but it ended up just being all the celebrities i didn’t see and so i took pictures of random people in suits who came from the oscars who were not celebrities and i was like is this robert rodriguez maybe you don’t know what he looks like sure imagine it is uh but anyways i’m saying like in and out gets so much free publicity which hypes it up for so many people but it’s because they think it’s the best i don’t think it’s i think in a blind taste test if you had an in-n-out burger with no prior knowledge against a mom and pop burger so i’m not talking about like mcdonald’s because i agree in and out is probably the best fast food burger can i say that is it you can you you can say whatever you want there’s no judgment here but why are you saying it’s overrated if it’s the best that’s a good question just because people say it’s the best and that makes you because because people aren’t saying it’s the best fast food burger i think people are saying it’s the best burger period you have people like anthony bourdain top three top three you think okay you think in and out is legitimately a top three burger in l.a yes no way you want to know my other no way i would like to know your okay so there used to be a restaurant called pyt by the same guy who did bar amma and he had a really good burger joseph centeno that he wrapped i think he wrapped it in call fat and it was beautiful and delicious and yet this crazy mustard sauce that i really really liked and then my other favorite burger was the beef heart and bone marrow burger at belle campo so it’s it’s funny you bring up bell campo because belcampo so belcampo uh it’s a a butcher shop that does like really fantastically raised mates i think they have like a ranch in belize or something yeah yeah and it’s really cool um and they have a full service restaurant butcher shop but they actually started like a fast food business that was making pretty much a direct copy of in and out it was good it was not only good it was like to me significantly better than in and out and at a cheaper price point than something like shake shack i didn’t like i had one and it did not taste the same as in and out to me it was similar but not the same it was better to me though wow the beef like because they use dry aged steak treatments not that you can expect like in and out or fast food restaurants do that um but these like dry aged beef trimmings and it was still very cheap you know something that to me i was just like this is the comparison for in and out not shake shack because you know they’re different yeah yeah curly cuddly leafs yeah no the the yeah the green leaf lettuce it’s wilty yeah and then the butter is really soft yeah it’s it’s like dipped it looks like dipped in water almost like can they use the the crinkle cup fries or you’re trying to impress yeah whatever put cheese sauce a piece of cheese come on yeah it’s a top three burger josh it’s number three and my top keyboard i i i would probably 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what a danger oh my god nicole what did david do he got animal fries and then he got a whole slab of grilled onion on the fry oh oh he got he got hole grilled instead of the grilled onion on top of my french fries was it good it was crazy delicious and i hate and i hate having a whole grilled in my burger because it makes it taste like cutlet which is a persian yeah meat like meat souffle i don’t know and i hate it with the beef but i had it with the actual animal style fries and i was like tripping out because it was so good yeah yeah but like you think the well-done fries can run with any other fry including fries no because we’re not arguing that i’m the fr okay the fries in and out are overrated the restaurant itself is not what about the shakes i don’t what are the shakes that’s part of it you eat dairy all the time yeah but i have lactate pills that’s right you run to your purse to get the lactate i had a milkshake with my burgers everywhere oh my god that would be the worst experience i did have their milkshakes once and a neapolitan one and it was good but it’s not as good as a johnny rocket’s milkshake johnny rockets you and i both have a huge attachment to maybe more so than in and out i know well my parents okay well i used to get the grilled cheese from in and out oh this is a really embarrassing story when i was a kid i would get the grilled cheese from in and out and the cheese would always get stuck to the paper yes so you would you eat the paper i wouldn’t eat the paper i would i would tongue out the cheese with in the paper yeah i would do the same thing but i would scrape my teeth against the paper and inevitably you would eat some of the paper which is the most pleasant bite yeah yeah yeah yeah that was the best it’s like when the wrappers partly get stuck to the starburst i don’t have time to finish picking this off i’m just gonna eat the paper yeah it’s like it’s almost like it’s doubled down it’s kind of like cubed you know like when you cube something like in math yeah but with cheese yeah it heightens the flavor it it exponentiates this is so embarrassing no everyone eats cheese paper that is call in on the hotline right now to tell us your cheese paper eating stories but see experiences like that don’t make me feel like it’s overrated i i mean i think it’s just it’s delicious food it’s easy food it’s fast food it’s cheap food but it’s all really good quality food too the veggies are really good the sauce delightful french fries eh the burgers they are hot they’re hot so hot they’re hot sauce so cold they are hot i think people though there are myths about in-n-out’s food quality that i i think people so i call this debunk it let’s debunk some internet take that snyder family i think there are a lot of myths surrounding the quality internet like i agreed that it is delicious and it is a lot fresher than all pretty much all of the fast food not even pretty much then definitely every other fast food i wouldn’t know i mean i wouldn’t know but there’s so many people like i was talking to someone i call this the trader joe’s effect where someone goes uh yeah but we’re talking about the calories in and out or something or other and someone goes like yeah but in-n-out uses all organic ingredients and i was like what are you doing no they don’t they get their beef from like one of the biggest factory farming operations which is how a hamburger can cost a dollar 79. exactly you know and that’s just like a fact of agroeconomics but like you know there are some things where i think every in and out store has to get their food supplies from within 300 miles of distribution center which is like very good and i believe all their beef is raised in the united states where someone did dna testing on mcdonald’s hamburgers okay and found out that like cows from three different continents ended up in the same mcdonald’s burger like american cows like cows raised in europe and like cows raised in australia all ending up in the same burger and like i guess there’s some actual crazy insidious sciency thing that could happen with like antibiotic resistance and all that um i don’t know i’ll eat a mcdonald’s hamburger and feel okay about it um but in and out you know they do take certain steps but then the people sort of get these ideas in their head and they take it a step further that in and out never claimed to do like i don’t blame in and out for being overrated they make a very good product they treat their employees well and they have slowly grown their business to an incredible brand that for me people have run with so hard and now i think we’re getting a lot of people who like are showing up to california being like oh my god i can’t wait to try in and out i saw it all over instagram then they eat it and they just go like this is just a normal burger it’s like that’s the point it’s a normal burger which is perfectly fine a dollar 79 hamburger should not be the most transcendent thing you’ve ever eaten 1.79 a hamburger is what you’re supposed to eat you know after a youth basketball game and someone like the cool team mom takes you through the drive-through and you get a 1.79 hamburger to feel your little child belly you know like 1.79 hamburger it’s you know like a working class food it is a normal ass lunch for a person who lives in the region it is not for an instagram influencer to say that it’s the greatest thing they’ve ever had and i think that is the territory that we’ve end up in how much uh did it cost you to buy those in and out shoes that you’re wearing i’m not wearing the internet i know you’re not wearing them right now were you gonna lie no no i was gonna say how much i bought shoes how about the socks you got the socks i didn’t get the socks i think i only got the shoes it sucks no you have this one so i do have the in-and-out shoes the internet shoes cost me 60 and i really love them it’s a part of the brand it’s a personal why are you my overrated brand shoes i’m a shameless hypebeast i want the clout okay so you’re saying it’s overrated but you yourself are are giving into the clown i am a part of the mission nicole we live in a society can’t say it’s overrated and then purchase it and then go eat there all the time i think being a hypocrite is central to my brand in the same way no you are right you’re like a hypocrite yeah i also i’m i’m planning on getting an in-n-out tattoo why you gotta do that bro i think it’s really cool dude check this out so so it’s gonna be it’s not cool look at my arm i’m looking at it it’s gonna be a round bicep tattoo that at the first glance is gonna look like a tribal armband but then you realize that it’s actually the in and out cup but no i to me i consider in and out a formative part of like my identity right being sure big into food and also like not growing up with a ton of money and being able to get that happiness for 1.79 and also feel like i’m eating something exclusive that has god this is the douchiest thing to say it has terroir like wine right like the um character of the soil that grew the grapes right that there are ancient minerals in these certain valleys in france that can only produce you know the best cab franc that’s what i’m saying like in and out to me it has to be in southern california it has to mean something to you we got these tourist vultures coming in from gary indiana so what being disappointed by in and out why do people mine then why do people go to gary in indiana to see michael jackson’s house man whatever wait michael jackson gary indiana yeah you didn’t know that no i didn’t know that at all yeah i pulled gary indiana out because i recently watched the movie glory road about the uh western texas basketball team that won the national championship one of the players from gary indiana yeah but so was michael jackson yeah bet you didn’t know that did not know that uh yeah what i was going to say before i got very sidetracked from knowing where michael jackson’s birthplace is was uh you’re a hypocrite and i hate you you’re tacky and i hate you i totally forgot no i am i mean i i’ve absolutely bought into the internet height but for me this is something i literally said in the office like an hour ago where i said if i like it it’s cool if i hate it it’s super lame and no one should do it yeah and i am just an absolute hypocrite okay and so i suppose i agree with you how many times have you gone to in and out like in your life hundreds upon hundreds yeah probably not a thousand somewhere in the deep somewhere in the deep hundreds like there’s so many memories you have associated with in and out but i’m sure there’s like the same exact feeling for someone that has a lot of rallies rallies is one the rallies is one no but that’s a really good point though there are so many of these regional fast food chains the thing i love about fast food that really fascinates me about it is that it connects people through common experiences yeah right so this is a good example waffle house waffle house is huge among the south anthony bourdain also you know wrote some beautiful essays about waffle house rhett and link talk about waffle house and how awesome it is so much and like there’s there’s symbolism to waffle houses right they’re often the only restaurant that’s open during hurricanes yes i remember there’s literally like the national weather service has something called the waffle house index based on how bad a hurricane is they can see that by how many waffle houses have closed down and again waffle house big in the south the only time i’ve ever been to a waffle house it’s the closest waffle house to california is in aurora colorado and i went there and i ate the waffles and the loaded hash browns that are clucked chucked flipped and flammed or whatever uh and i ate it and i was like this is a it’s undercooked hashbrowns and a crappy waffle yeah right for me i didn’t have the context i did not have and i would have said waffle house is overrated but do you need context to enjoy a meal i i do believe it helps i believe like food but like you said like you said i have been in and out hundreds of times and i have all these memories built up and that builds on the specialness right i don’t think you would think in-n-out burgers taste as good if you hadn’t been there hundreds of times especially since you’re a kid if you hadn’t eaten all that cheese paper i don’t know one time i went to uh this amusement park which one is it not not disney and what’s the other one josh knott’s berry farm no what’s the other one the one with yes one time i went to six flags and i had the best and now have you ever noticed that whenever you go to in and out that’s like not your hometown and now it’s so much better yeah yeah yeah going on the way to barstow yeah yeah oh my god that is that’s my fiancee’s favorite in and out mine is the one next to six flags i just love how it tastes it tastes better when it’s like not familiar in a weird way but also just familiar enough exactly exactly yeah it is it’s like uh a house with a thousand windows at only one door and it leads to in and out uh that metaphor made literally no sense i you know sometimes you start talking and then you’re like i have no idea where the sentence is going but you just push through and hope it wraps up so much oh but that’s this whole podcast all the time that’s the whole form of the brain of the operation that was an example that was literally looking at the brain of the operations raising cane sucks can we get that one out of the way put celery salt in there what are you doing is it a bloody mary don’t you so apparently you know i i mentioned that and someone told me there is no celery salt what is it i do wait do you taste celery salt in it i taste something off it’s like a weird hickory herbaly yeah situation some old coriander i always thought it was celery salt it tastes like celery but anyways if you grew up with that celery salt ass raisin cane like we did we also had raisin kings here no we didn’t no no the first reason cain’s came in like the like mid-2000s in one random part in orange county raising kane’s only had it once i think louisiana oh or is that zaxby’s might be both i’ve only had it once yeah no i i’ve had it like twice and i disliked it both times but people who are from that area i mean i felt the same way about chick-fil-a and i still feel that way about chick-fil-a no i like it i’m sorry i know that the morals of chick-fil-a are questionable i’m sorry i’m not perfect but like chick-fil-a it’s that thing that’s that’s big in the south and i remember i i roomed with a guy who was from atlanta when i went to shot put camp when i was 17. you went to shot pokemon yeah i went to overnight shot put camp in tacoma or spokane washington how long it was like a week it was really great i like met a lot of sugar yeah me too i wish i could go back um i met a lot of really good friends my roommate caleb was from atlanta and he was like oh man you’ve never been to a chick-fil-a oh it’s the best thing you’ve ever eaten in your life and then a chick-fil-a finally opened in orange county and i was like oh my god this chicken sandwich is about to be transcendent and i ate it and i was like oh hey what’s up worse wendy’s no it’s not worse than wendy’s looking we literally we had the new wendy’s chicken sandwich like two days ago together we’re like uh what is this we should we shared a wendy’s chicken sandwich we just ordered one to share just for research for our job yes uh it’s pretty bad it was from what can i tell you why it’s the pickles it was a weird dill pit with dill pickle and chicken yeah it was it was aggressively diluted don’t give me that two sour dudes i don’t need that but anyways i was very disappointed by chick-fil-a because it was hyped and so once you rate something so high it is inevitable that it will just by definition be overrated whataburger is the same way for me you ever been to a whataburger where is it texas never been to texas and the texans like to play the whataburger versus in and out game do you remember one time you got whataburger sauce and you kept refilling it with water so it would become salad dressing that okay this this is the worst you can tell how much money someone grew up with by how they treat the end of a condiment bottle and soap and soap and soap if you do not add water to it and dilute it always add water to the soap yeah i add water to the end of my ranch dressing bottles and i shake them up i add water to the end of my ketchup bottles until there’s a thin pink liquid soaking my fries no no i only do that with my shampoos and my shower gels yeah actually now now that i’ve like raised in in socioeconomic status i only do one water fill okay after that i’m like you know what this is done i can move on to the next one yes yes yeah i’m down to one waterfall that’s good for you yeah thank you thank you we’re coming up in the world yeah big time yeah but the whataburger sauce was pretty good i put that i i put them all in the salad dressing used to make it so wet that was the origin of the phrase wet salad hey josh what are you eating ah a big old wet salad i like my salads to i like people i just want the dressing to accent the greens no the dressing’s the point the greens are the afterthought so josh what have we learned today that you still think it’s overrated question mark i really hope not no honestly 20 minutes ago you convinced me that i didn’t actually think that uh but no i i totally told on myself this is something that i’ve been saying for a long time it’s tell on your i always tell myself but you know it shows you have a good moral like compass yeah because i literally just said in and out is the best fast food burger to ever exist and i believe that i whataburger nothing can compare to the freshness nothing is cooked with i don’t know in a blind taste test if i could taste fresh versus frozen beef but like you said in and out patties are hot which is freaking rare in a fast food burger they’re hot they’re fresh off the grill and they’re right in the lettuce is cold and the sauce is cold sauce is cold and the cats stay toasted yeah it’s incredible it’s artisanal josh it is i mean it’s it’s a perfectly architected fast food burger that costs 1.79 without all the additional add-ons and whatnot and i don’t believe any other fast food chain at its scale five guys cannot touch that to me shake shack cannot touch that i do not enjoy me shake shack very much i’ve had the whataburgers i’ve had uh some random chain in oklahoma that i can’t remember but someone from oklahoma is going to give me a one star on instagram he’s like you know like blimpyburger you idiot blimpies uh but no and like you said i’ve bought the in and out merch because i i want people to know my values yeah i am from southern california that i love in and out and i have great respect for their business model i mean to me honestly it reminds me a lot of mythical not to get like too deep into the business practices it’s just it’s just respect throughout every single uh part of the job yeah doesn’t matter if you’re a manager if you’re just starting out on the cash rap yeah and the reason you can do that is because you didn’t expand too quickly and completely ruin the quality of everything you do i mean i think they’ve ruined the quality of the company when they gave us a podcast a little bit you know that was a weird move they kind of threw us in here with maggie what’s up maggie i thoroughly enjoy this and i’m glad for the opportunities if you’re listening to the threaten link no but i mean you know in and out never franchised and they’ve said that they never will and they shouldn’t and they shouldn’t they just they built organically from the ground up and they ran a badass company and they make a fantastic dollar 79 hamburger and i guess that’s all you can ask that is the top tier of what one can ask for hey hey hot doggers in case you all missed it we just launched a new collection over at psych where products and apparel change before your very eyes and if you didn’t know what psych was you’re in luck because we’re giving all our listeners a discount code to use on their first visit shop psyc.la that’s s-i-k-e-l-a and enjoy ten percent off your whole purchase when you drop in audience made you look at check out now hold on i know that’s a difficult promo code but check this out that’s adios a-h-d-i-a-s for a hot dog as a sandwich made you look all caps no spaces at checkout for 10 off your whole purchase that’s right that’s audios made you look at psyc.la for 10 off your whole purchase [Music] all right nicole we’ve heard you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call a pin you’re on what are you you’re looking at your phone it’s called opinions or like casseroles for [Music] before we start this segment i want to read a quote from mindy uh she does our research packets for the podcast and she’s completely awesome and she’s from southern california as well i am such a big fan of in-n-out i just i asked her what she thinks so she didn’t just send me this message i’m such a big fan of in-n-out i personally don’t think it’s overrated since they always deliver on dot dot dot the vibes which is true so true in and out of his vibes we used to hang out and people like rival high school he used to fight in the in-n-out parking lot yeah it was liddy that was litty internet was so lit like chipotle we tried to switch to chipotle as like we tried to like that of course there’s no vibes at chipotle their product is always consistent fresh tasty convenient and cheap and the service and environment is pretty much always super friendly and upbeat of course i’m biased and some from socal but i think they offer everyone the quintessential california casual west coast experience and all their branches even their merch is dope i bought it the merch is dope thank you for thinking my shoe choice is dope mindy but yeah i mean that’s a big thing and maggie maggie our producer engineer i don’t know no one has any do we have she’s our executive boss do we have do we have any titles in mythical uh we just kind of hang out maggie who is in the sound booth who edits and records everything nicole and i say she like was sitting down in the chair as we came into the studio and was just like i hate that you guys are doing this i’m like what she’s like in and out of such a special place in my heart and i understand that it does and i absolutely respect that as a special place in mind i can’t wait to get tatted up with my in-n-out ink uh when it when it’s safe to do so please don’t get a tattoo of a dinner i’m gonna are you against tattoos because of like the judaism reason no of course it’s not like my grandma’s why would you sky your body i am not your grandma god gave you this body joshua i’m gonna tell you i am not your girlfriend shut up grandma all right we’re gonna start with at bleed two-tone i like to put gummy snacks in my miller high life so i have a little treat when my beer is spinning i really respect this yeah i love this what i don’t okay here’s my problem though first of all i love miller highlife it was the first beer i ever drank champagne of beer shout out to miller high life however gummy bears to me i don’t like them when they’re cold but that is because i have bad teeth yeah and so in fact if you like cold gummy bears this is a lovely treat but for me the best application of this would be a warm miller high life with soaked gummy bears in it but then it makes the miller highlight worse yeah you know well all i know is that it’s miller time heyo you like that hey that was good yeah that’s their commercial it’s miller time are you trying to be obama right now no i was trying to be obama i would speak more with his cadence so bad and i would make the obama hand gestures like it’s like almost there okay guinea guinea jenny smith 17 says my husband thinks any sausage can be breakfast sausage if you eat it in the morning i agree i love all sausages and you can eat them at any time and i think this is a good idea i like your husband well here i think we need to break down you trying to steal this woman’s husband no cool come on now come on now be respectful be respectful of monogamy i just said i like your husband because i like his views are you like are you in like with with their husbands so who does everyone say does everyone like uh i like sausage at any time of the day give me any sausage any time of day i don’t care man i think what you should really be questioning is what is breakfast though like come on like because when you’re saying time morning yeah but no no no no no i don’t think you’re talking about morning i think you’re talking about pairings because when you’re talking about breakfast sauce you’re probably talking about pairing yourself if you eat in the morning read read the text i can’t read i’ve been faking it the whole time i kind of guess what the mouth sounds would be based on the page uh no i love making just like a nice breakfast platter with some andouille sausage in there yeah there’s a little mild italian i agree there’s no right or wrong sausage eat it yeah we’re sausage inclusive here super at lizard cowboy yams and marshmallows please explain food history lesson needed i ain’t got no food history lesson yeah and marshmallow origin story so i mean the way i think about it like yams and marshmallows are very like 1950s marshmallows were just developed and it was very excited and someone from the jetpuff corporation needed to sell more marshmallows and just threw them on top of yams and baked them and was like eat it i love it according to an article article from savior magazine documented by the library of congress the first recipe of mashed sweet potatoes with marshmallows dates to 1917 where marketers of english marshmallows hired janet mckenzie hill founder of the boston cooking school magazine to develop a recipe for the booklet designed to encourage home cooks to embrace the candy as an everyday ingredient very interesting also funny that now we kind of consider marshmallows to be an ingredient right yeah i think it’s not a candy no i wouldn’t eat a marsh i don’t like eating marshmallows by themselves i love it no juliet julie so julie and i just moved in together yeah julia she keeps yeah it’s very exciting so she likes to make a little treat for herself on some nights where she takes a single graham cracker and puts chocolate on it and marshmallow and she like toasts it and she makes a little individual s’more but then that means we also got marshmallows in the house so i just stuff about six seven in my mouth and go to town question do you like your marshmallows like golden or black black black i i light them on fire i blow them out i remove the foreskin i put it in my mouth and then i got another mic that’s why this works [ ] it’s so frustrating i take off the foreskin too you gotta do it was in our heritage to take off the foreskin you can’t not oh my god hannah underscores showing 20. chocolate pewdie chocolate chocolate pudding do you want some more chocolate pudding that just make fun of nicole yeah a little bit okay chocolate pudding and pirates booty is the bomb no i don’t like i don’t even like pirates i love chocolate pudding i don’t like pirates goody i am the opposite way i don’t care for chocolate pudding but i love pirates booty because my brother we would we used to live like right next to a trader joe’s and like we’d go shopping and you know like my dad would have a little shopping budget and stuff my brother would always like demand pirates booty because he was just like a little complete a-hole lovey-john but like you know when he was a kid he was like the worst mean it was mean yeah he like just threatened to scream all the time he didn’t get his way um i remember that we won’t just get into it but anyways point is we would always have pirates building the house but zero sum game only enough money spent on groceries i couldn’t get a snack that i wanted and so i just look at pirate’s booty and think of opportunity cost and i got pretty mad about it so now hannah’s showing this opportu this opinion enrages me okay add spexor ranch doritos and french onion dip don’t at me or do i’m not your supervisor jokes on you we don’t have a supervisor it’s just me i’m like literally i gave nicole a year-end review so josh not only is my boss he’s also my supervisor yeah again it’s pretty i like it we’re talking about mythical run such a tight ship like in and out you know like didn’t expand too fast didn’t take outside money grew from it then promote it from within and they’re just like oh the supervisor don’t yell about doritos uh this sounds good yeah it sounds pretty good you know i’ve i’ve talked a lot about flavor chips and dips and i i’ve gone every which way on my opinion about them and i don’t even know where i stand anymore sometimes i don’t know if i have any genuine opinions or if i just have things that i think can stir internet controversy there’s a lot of sour cream going on in here a lot of several like there’s a lot of sour cream powder and ranch doritos and then there’s so much sour cream and sour cream powder in french onion dip so i think you just like sour cream a lot of msg too you like sour just mix sour cream and msg and just mainline that yeah rub it into your gums and get your bloodstream faster chris period nicole 29 dipping pickles in a vanilla milkshake is no different than dipping fries equally good uh no it’s not the same it it’s good probably yeah you can say cravings pregnant oh you got a bun in the oven congratulations yes i’m so excited this is like a weird pregnancy craving i can’t get behind it yeah now something about when you bite into a pickle the juices kind of explode in your mouth which is a very pleasant experience me love it especially when you’re eating pickles with something starchy right pickles on a sandwich whatever delicious to me having the fatty liquidy milkshake already in your mouth and then having pickle juice run over that fatty dairy liquid makes me feel not great inside um i’m happy if you’re happy and i think you know uh you should probably keep doing it to imply that it’s no different than dipping fries to me is a factual inaccuracy there is a hefty difference between pickles and fries you imagine you went to a fast food restaurant and you were just like can you get an order fries they’re like sorry we’re out of fries but good news there’s a mound of pickles yeah have fun fun fact me and david when we get in it now we always get a cup full of pickles this is not a joke there is in the cup holder is a cup of pickles and we take that and the pepperoncinis then we dip it in the sauce i just put pickles in my cup holder in my car no like no other cup just pickles would i do that i did that with something like during an episode like i was just eating chocolate out of the cup holder i don’t know oh i think i put shrimp in the cup holder anyways i make coffees wheaties or frosted flakes that grew up and got boring no bran flakes or frosted flakes that grew up and got boring uh i love wheaties are frosted flakes i grew up and got yolked yeah wheaties are frosted flakes that went to the olympics yeah [Laughter] but bran flakes help you poop um however however so as someone who you know experiments a lot with his body um that sounds dirty no i’m not like i’ve done a lot of weird sort of like diety stuff you know i like to work out a lot in like a year ago and i was really trying to put on muscle pretty aggressively and gain some weight i was eating a ton of protein uh but it was hard to get enough fiber to push the protein out of my butthole okay um so i started you know i was like i need to start eating some sort of fiber-rich cereal because something i’ll enjoy and the fiber content of bran flakes compared to something like fiber one nothing like fiber one has so much fiber in it that stuff will run through you i’m so happy to know this but i would pour the protein powder on the fiber one so it’d just be like a net net you know i don’t need this yeah you should be concerned about my digestive health is part literally today people it was like 11 13 and people were like where is john you knew where i was that is too intimately familiar with your i’m your boss that’s stupid what a joke i was in my executive conference session it’s funny because sometimes i’ll say i’m in a meeting and you know exactly where i am and then someone will be like oh how’s the meeting like did you get the creative for this episode settled i was like i got something settled most of the time i am working while on the toilet so that’s where almost all of the titles of all the mythical kitchen episodes are decided while i’m on the toilet that’s the only time we get to do it you know we’re podcasting we’re shooting episodes we’re making food the only time i get to decide the titles very important part is uh while i’m pooping i’m hot please stop this conversation and on that note i gotta go hit the toilet thank you for listening to a hot dog it’s a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you everyone’s safe i’m sorry for laughing if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzonda with the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen we’ll see you next time i need about eight minutes [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking 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