ramble hey before we get into today’s episode we want to tell you about good mythical evening for one night only we are bringing you good mythical evening streaming exclusively on moment house get your ticket for a most indecent sloshy and random show that takes our classic good mythical morning favorites and torches the rulebook the show is live september 1st to jumpstart the labor day weekend tickets are on sale right now at goodmythicalevening.com in august 2019 at the national buffalo wing festival in buffalo new york drew cerza aka the wing king of buffalo said we’re gonna have hidden valley ranch dressing available for all of our out of town guests this inclusion left buffalonians concerned that the world had no regard for the proper dipping sauce for wings were they wrong today we discuss ranch or blue cheese this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs is sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh air and i’m your host nicole hendy’s audit and today we are asking ranch versus blue cheese this is maybe the most important i think life-changing life-altering question we’ve ever asked i couldn’t agree with you more not not necessarily but i think this does strike one of those pain points with a regional audience and it’s going to lead to us getting a lot more one-star please please a disclaimer if you are from somewhere that is that has a preference on your sauces please do not come for us we are butt messengers like nice crap opinions no no no you you come to us buffalo stupid bills mafia breaking table actually i really do love the buffalo bills uh they’re a very fun football team yeah wasn’t uh the buffalo bills oh no nicole’s talking sports nicole do it uh dennis rodman was on the balls and that’s the chicago bulls i’m so sorry the buffalo bill’s the football god lee uh anyways uh blue people from buffalo will tell you that like blue cheese is the only way to go with chicken wings however blue cheese and ranch are both commonly served with wings like when you go to wing stop my favorite wing chain sorry buffalo wild wings you got a lot of tvs oh my gosh they have so many tvs that’s why you go yeah that’s why i do go i miss going to buffalo wild if there was one experience that i could bring back from quarantine it’d be buffalo wild wings not like hugging people or seeing friends or anything like parties or going to parties no no it would just be sitting at buffalo wild wings alone drinking a half flat coors light at 11 30 a.m on a sunday to watch football uh but no uh ranch and blue teas are both commonly eaten but buffalo really loves to claim ownership over the buffalo wing despite it spreading so far so where do you stand on this i love blue cheese all day every day not even as a winged dipping sauce i just like blue cheese dressing i like blue cheese crumbles i like it on a wedge salad i like it you know on the side of you know the steak have one time i made a steak and i made blue cheese compound butter wow what a wonderful yeah i love blue cheese and i think it’s versatile and i think people just have a weird aversion to mold you think blue cheese is versatile i think it’s so versatile i didn’t name a lot of foods that i i didn’t necessarily well you kind of just named like wing salad and then steak but steak wouldn’t really be blue cheese like would you put blue cheese dressing on a steak because blue cheese dressing right it’s like what are we arguing with cheese dipping sauce well yeah like dipping sauce dressing oh oh i just like blue cheese in general i brought up a list of blue cheeses that i like well no but i mean a lot of people like as a kid i didn’t know that blue cheese was a standalone cheese because i only had it in dressing form and i had only had like bad dressing for me and i think bad blue cheese dressing is much worse than butter what is bad blue cheese dressing wishbone blue we’re never getting the wishbone wishbone blue cheese dressing there is no blue cheese in there it’s like a little bit of mold powder and then all parents love wishbone blue cheese dressing that’s why we grew up with it tastes like america it does it tastes like corn syrup and chemicals america american dressing wow i i have nothing but i love wishbone i love the shape of their bottles great i will i think ken steakhouse is is way too highfalutin that’s the best blue cheese dressing of all time i can’t bring myself to buy like fancy salad dressings because i’m either buying like hidden valley or like a wishbone equivalent or i’m making my own i’m like i ain’t spending no 7.49 for paul newman do you like making your own ranch yes i love making my own is it as good as a bottled ranch it’s not as good as so this we we need to offer up a correction here for a previous episode i don’t even know what the heck we were talking about we mentioned how good cisco ranch is we brought it specifically outback yeah outback makes a ranch in house oh no no but i mean to me that’s a testament of i love taking foods that are like really good prefab like stovetop stuffing right like i love making my own homemade version of stovetop stuffing and trying to make it taste exactly like that and i love doing that yeah it’s like cisco ranch for those who don’t know what i’m talking about cisco is the gigantic food distribution company that delivers like 10 gallon drums of uh what’s the one cattleman’s cattleman’s barbecue sauce there’s like brands that only exist that go through cisco and sell like in 10 gallon increments yeah and so like every you know crappy chain across america uses the same barbecue sauce that comes from cisco small mom and pop restaurants they just want them on pops yeah they’ll sort of there’s a lot of like a lot of diners especially that have really big menus very true yeah is it blue cheese dressing just ranch plus blue cheese that’s okay this comes to a very good point because ranch is the mother sauce blue cheese dressing is the variation on the mother sauce it’s like you have hollandaise then you add shallots and tarragon and you get bernays you have ranch dressing and you add blue cheese crumbles and you get blue cheese dressing which is why i think ranch is superior escoffier is rolling in his grave right now at the disrespect that you are giving towards his mother that’s fine tear down your french cooking idols all right because the hidden valley corporation made so much more money and made so many more people more funny than escoffie you don’t know that where are your stuff like i know that where are yours uh god i don’t oh rifle through the papers uh no but actually hidden valley is worth a ton of money they got top chef money they sponsor entire seasons of top chef last chance kitchen which is also one of the most brilliant digital marketing devices last chance kitchen so top chef uh the hidden valley would occasionally sponsor like a quick fire challenge on top chef where he’d literally be like for fun yeah there’s oh they’re so fun yeah and they can get all wacky with it like the rental draft sponsored one one year and they literally had to only cook using reynolds wrap as like equipment so people were like fashioning like saute pans out of just reynolds rap oh that’s so funny sign me up can i go what on the show on top chef can i go yeah i don’t think i would win but i would just i know i might be there a lot of people are like josh did you go on top chef and i was like literally like the one of the first challenges there is called like the prep relay where it’s like you have to perfectly break down or trust chickens yeah it’s a lot of like technical stuff that i have no idea i feel like i could go on chopped cut throat kitchen all the garbage food network shows yeah top chef is an entirely different level that i could not hack enough yeah yeah yeah i would love to be a silly guest judge doing things that like doshi and like make the float or whatever no i can’t do that can’t do that kill sanjac what am i gonna do what don’t even say what scoffing but anyways hidden valley they sponsored an entire series of last chance kitchen on top chef which is when a contestant gets kicked off top chef now you go to bravotv.com this is an ad for bravo this one so funny you go to bravotv.com and there’s a digital only series okay where like the last two chefs that got kicked off cook against each other oh and then the person who like runs the table gets back into the competition like inkmaster probably i don’t watch that’s just tattoo top chef i watch a lot of eggmaster for stuff you watch all those shows you watch the glassblowing one oh my god they’re so good i love the gl blown away what a phenomenal show i love inkmaster and i love blowing away but i don’t watch real housewives oh yeah well i’ll follow any show that’s that structure of top chef yeah where it’s like a bunch of contestants get kicked off every week different challenge yeah like quick fire for 10 minutes they they absolutely nailed that format what i’m saying is hidden valley in 1970 uh got bought by the clorox corporation no way it’s actually a crazy story so ranch dressing was invented by a dude who i think i think he was a plumber he had a ranch in san jose he literally had los angeles in california yeah it’s kind of in the in the central coast i think the santa ines region um and he literally started a like a dude ranch which was really popular back in the day from the movie city slickers with billy crystal i love him i watched when harry met sally for the first time recently never seen it why is the add firing so hard today i don’t know did you have a diet coke oh i literally have an empty red bull next to me that makes sense we cracked the code but anyways dude range is like really popular back then he starts a ranch for tourists to come in uh and he was like we need a signature food product for our ranch okay uh and so it was originally called something else but then he renamed the ranch hidden valley ranch um eventually but he literally was just like let’s whip up a salad dressing and they would cook for people and they would make this and people go wow that’s the best thing i ever eat in my life and you’d send them home with souvenirs with the branded like hidden valley ranch jars and then they started making the ranch powder because it was very like shelf stable and then it blew up 1970 got bought by the clorox corporation went wide a distribution and then in the 90s it surpassed italian dressing as the top-selling dressing in all of america wow what an acquisition but how quick that happened it’s well it it’s ranch is delicious i’m not denying that ranch i agree with you and it’s not a great i love to dip my fries in ranch i like to dip my pizza in ranch but blue cheese let me tell you why blue cheese is so good because things that are polarizing are my favorite like you either love them or you hate them like no one kind of likes blue cheese you either are obsessed with it love it want to slather it on everything or you absolutely hate it like maggie oh i thought you meant you absolutely hate it like the way you hate me oh i love myself i was like my god nicole she’s right there she listens to everything we say maggie’s the best although she hates blue cheese but whatever i’m just gonna oversee that’s an oversight but um yeah i think foods that are polarizing like that are my favorite because they have this crazy fan base and when you try blue cheese with different things it changes your perspective on food because you know it’s just mold you’re eating mold and i have a mold allergy wait you want to hear i have a mold allergy and i’m lactose intolerant and i still love blue cheese dressing i don’t care if i get sick and die and uh throw up i will still enjoy my blue cheese no one eats more dairy than the lactose intolerant community it’s it’s it’s literally like the forbidden fruit it’s like telling a teen that they kids the prohibition theory exactly like you tell someone you can’t have something so you want it more yeah except instead of you know uh getting arrested by the police for illegally drinking alcohol imagine if you would go to jail for having dairy products never that but yeah i i think ranch is you know just everyone loves ranch ranch is accessible ranch is friendly ranch is like the guy in school that would like let everyone cheat off of his papers so that’s why you liked him kirby herbie herbie in high school yeah yeah yeah yeah go for the third that’s nice super nice guy liked by everybody like oh my god herbie was liked by literally everybody i copied every single test answer from an ap econ senior year yeah it was totally cool that he’d like angle the papers in different ways so different people could look at it yeah but herbie ain’t going nowhere in life no he’s like a really successful engineer i know you’re saying i know what you’re saying my point it has to be made regardless but you know that annoying theater kid that everyone hated and like had like two friends kyle sorry go ahead yeah kyle you know hated by some loved by others doesn’t care what other people think enjoys life for what it is that is blue cheese dressing and that’s why it’s the best also works so well with the spice of a wing yeah he’s like an art curator in new york now well kyle i appreciate you mr blue cheese man kyle is my blue cheese someone from my high school is going to listen to this and like dm me on instagram and be like when’s your hair messed up my 10-year high school reunion was supposed to be 2020. i was class of 2010. oh i’m sorry i know i wanted to go back and dunk on everybody yeah being like congratulations totally dunked on everybody i know i like i’m the technically the most famous person for my high school graduating class except for maybe uh kalini fagada for her uh work on 90 day fiance um so colleeny shout out you’re a great friend and track and field teammate and i’m very happy for your success but i’m more popular by a little bit she’s climbing though and i’m falling uh because this podcast is so rambling there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high-quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top-tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home there’s free shipping for the continental us and there’s 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because i agree with you that blue cheese is polarizing which i don’t think is necessarily a negative i know i i talk about popular populism and foods and that if more people like something there’s wisdom in crowds as don delillo famously said the future belongs to crowds and if that is true then ranch is the winner in this situation but i agree with you that these polarizing foods they’re polarizing because they offer a lot yes like nothing that’s inoffensive tasting is polarizing blue cheese is you know really bold and i love that flavor absolutely but on a wing is i think what we should actually be like okay really determining this on it’s always blue cheese for me it’s always been blue cheese and i specifically date men who like ranch so uh they don’t get in my way of success yes it’s true my my favorite thing i i i agree with you actually i will almost exclusively go blue like i’m thinking about wing stop right because that’s my main frame of reference for wings i go to wing stop i get 20 wings i get 10 buffalo i get five some sort of like sweet one and then five of like a dry rubbed you know something that’s good but it’s got to be always like fifty percent buffer and you only i don’t even like the other wings i just eat them as a palette cleanser to remind me how good the buffalo wings are that’s a good that’s a good point thank you that’s nice that’s actually really smart yeah but but if i’m also getting fries and i don’t love wingstop’s fries we’re like having something starchy to go they put sugar in the seasoning salt on it and it’s just like meh it doesn’t work i don’t like fries i just want to be slathered in sauce yeah i feel like just butter me up baby throw me in the vinegar sauce on the face uh but i like to dip my i prefer fries with ranch but i do prefer buffalo wings with blue cheese i think there’s something about how didn’t you just say we’re arguing the way i know we are we are we are for now but i mean like i think we should go wing argument and then a general argument okay right so wings i do always go blue cheese because like there’s an argument to made for both right ranch technically i don’t believe ranch would be the mother sauce for blue cheese because ranch i think has the addition of herbs you just said it though yeah i like to say a lot of things but that’s like yeah you just gotta argue in circles are you going back well no base definition of ranch right i think if you if you went with the most basic definition of ranch which would probably include hidden valley then i think that blue cheese would be a derivative of the mother sauce because ranch is pretty much just like a couple different types of dairy you probably got like sour cream you probably got buttermilk you know you probably got i don’t know maybe something else and then a lot of times there’s a whole milk in there kind of rounded out uh and then you have mayonnaise any sort of emulsification of egg and oil and then some sort of vinegar oh but i mean how many herbs are actually in hidden valley ranch green how many green specks like how many green specks per square milliliter four different kinds of green specks one of them is a dark green that might be black pepper i think it’s probably the black pepper okay but when i make ranch at home like i like it to be really herbaceous right somebody a ton of like parsley and dill and chives in there but like hidden valley ranch i think if you add blue cheese to hidden valley ranch that’s just blue cheese dressing yeah i agree with you yes i agree with you i don’t know where i’m going with this i don’t know what you’re saying right now it’s bothering me me too what’s wrong i got the brain fog you want to drink water no no red bull red bull red bull so the value of ranch dressing with buffalo wings okay would probably come from the freshness of the herbs to offset the fatty spiciness either offset or complement the fatty spiciness of the buffalo sauce whereas the blue cheese you get that heavy offensively delicious blue cheese flavor to sort of like um what is it called in fashion power clashing eye color blocking it’s where you wear like two very different patterns on like your pants in your jacket maybe pattern classic i don’t know i’m not uh retlink’s assistant jenna was like rhett and link you’re so great at power clashing and i was like dang that’s a cool word yeah so there’s like you know that theory where you have two very different things coming together but if they’re both so strong and so awesome they create a beautiful harmony yeah inside your mouth or on-site body that’s how i feel with yeah yeah 100 i think i might agree with you because i i like big bold guy fieri flavortown flavors for sure yeah i think i would agree that i but i don’t think it’s the only in the same way that i get distracting dummy flavors to make my buffalo wings taste better yeah that is how i operate with ranch and blue cheese my buffalo wings as well i go two in the blue cheese one in the ranch to remind me of how good the blue cheese is so what what i do when i eat wings is i one buffalo wing dipped in blue cheese one buffalo wing dipped in ranch one barbecue wing to reset my palette then back to the buffalo wings two and the two in the blue cheese then back to like you know the korean dry rub is this like how people map out like football games yeah yeah this is me like game like diagramming gamifying eating wings right now you have to maxim to maximize the pleasure of eating wings you have to over diagram it to death no until it’s not fun anymore no i keep it simple you just get the buffalo wings and then you dip them in the blue cheese and then maybe if you really want you can dip the the carrot stick in the ranch but that’s the only time because it’s a powder are you supposed to eat the carrot sticks i always oh my god are you kidding me some of the it’s it’s instead of you getting weird like obtuse odd flavors of wings i eat the vegetables on the side those aren’t even edible it’s like it’s like the kale that lines the buffet at the sizzler they’re totally done so do you eat the kale no buffet no i don’t go to sizzler buffets you don’t go to sizzler buffets that’s america no so is wishbone true no i instead of me getting more wings on the side that are like weird flavors that i would never eat anyways actually i would eat them but whatever they would muddy my experience of the buffalo wing so yeah i dipped the carrot in the ranch to neutralize the intense delicious beautiful blue cheese and buffalo flavors you know i don’t like raw carrots guys soft teeth that’s okay you can ask them to blanch it can you just drop this carrot in the fryer with the wings yeah just and then bring it out to you in a mush and that can be your palette cleanser that makes sense so do i win blue cheese well i don’t know let’s talk okay because we’re talking ranch about ranch versus blue cheese with regards to wings and i i do agree with you that blue cheese are better blue cheese are i do agree with you that blue cheese is better with specifically buffalo wings however if there’s no buffalo sauce involved on wings because buffaloing right like buffalo wings specifically to me at least mean some sort of vinegary hot sauce mixed with could be butter it could be some sort of chemically emulsified fat thing yeah but it’s like vinegar-based hot sauce mixed with some sort of fat yeah on the wings but like i don’t know do like lemon pepper dry wings count as buffalo wings or those just wings i think those are just wings so it’s got to be specifically buffalo i agree that buffalo and blue cheese is the best combination and i think there is a reason that people have eaten that is a beautiful power clash in the mouth however like i i ranch up most of my food yeah and i especially ranch up a lot of my chicken yeah you did would you put like on just a straight fried naked chicken wing maybe with a little like dry cajun spice on it would you go ranch or blue cheese on like a dry rubbed wing i don’t i don’t enjoy dry rub wings enough to say that i when i go when i’m going to to a buffalo wild wings or a wingstop whatever i’m getting buffalo wings that’s what i’m doing i mean do you get any other flavors as like uh the mango habaneras or mango habaneros are really good but i’m a purist when it comes to wings i don’t want the korean chili spice i don’t care for the ragin cajun i don’t care for the lemon pepper i just love buffalo sauce so much that i think it muddies my experience well how do you feel about like i mean you mentioned korean i mean korean chicken wings are one of the greatest things in all of the world i used to live in koreatown i lived yeah right next to the prince that had like some of the best chicken wings sure like if i’m going to the prince or the obi bear that’s okay that’s different yeah but if i’m going to buffalo wild wings like i just give me some buffalo wings let me pretend to be interested in the football game let me drink a beer like give me some blue cheese i’m done you know i don’t need all the i don’t need the extraneous you’re watching the football game pretending i said princess first is that dennis rodman played for the buffalo bills i’m sorry i mixed them up it happens he had cool hair and his friends with kim jong-un oj simpson is the one who played for the buffalo bills oh yeah you might know him from his work in other things yeah he wrote a book he’s like some sort of a driver yeah he also wrote a book oh yeah he wrote a book called like if i did it yeah it likes to collect memorabilia yeah sure sure does okay uh okay so now how we decided that blue cheese and blue jeans and buffalo wings are i would agree are the best i think buffalo love the bill’s mafia five-star this podcast we can’t stand anymore ninety percent of our one stars are from st louis people mad about my take on st louis pizza correct and then also people who hate cilantro telling me that i’m pregnant against them uh which is fine right i love the fact that we pretty much only have five star reviews in one star reviews yeah on the podcast polarizing polarizing we are the blue cheese i am the blue cheese of a podcast i am the hot knife nobody’s gonna get that no so no one’s gonna get one of our original pitch names for the podcast was i don’t one of those things where we weren’t serious unless people thought it was good then we were serious but it was butter into the hot knife guess which one i am i still don’t remember i’m buttered and i’m the hot knife that’s what we were gonna do it’s so embarrassing oh it’s so practical it’s just a way to embarrass each other yeah i kind of love it i kind of love it i’m not gonna say you can’t make me stop eating ranch dressing you have to come down to my home if the government wants to come to my home and take the ranch dressing out of my hands they’re gonna be in for it i’ll tell you what you spent all your stimulus check on ranch didn’t you yeah a little bit well i bought my own ranch distilling kit i bought barrels to age my ranch aged ranch one of the most delicious things i ever made though was humboldt fog ranch oh humbled fog is blue cheese humble [ __ ] is blue cheese but i put a ton of fresh herbs in it that typically would not be in a blue cheese dressing that’s nicole that’s what we need you they need to put they need to either put blue cheese into an herbaceous ranch or herbs into a moldy ass blue cheese dressing and then you get the perfect dressing fine combine them fine you and i are the same fine reach across the aisle okay blue cheese ranch we call it bread in the middle we call it branch blue cheese fruit cheese cheese fine welcome to ruchi’s drag race i’m sharp cheddar i’m brie fine fine we will okay let’s let’s agree blue cheese ranch hybrid at the next wing franchise that we create i agree but we have to tie it to a random city in new york it can’t be buffalo albany albany no albany style uh if ithaca is like it’s a guy i think it’s got a cool like they got a lot of colleges there a lot of college kids they’re drunk you got ranch in my blue cheese you’ve got blue cheese in my ranch i go to cornell that’s the only thing i know about ithaca there’s like a bunch of like giant gorges what’s a gorge like a canyon so we should call the dressy gorge dresses gorgeous there’s a ton of gorgeous in ithaca we call it gorge dressing okay gorge style rue cheese buy it at mythical.com that sounds great i think i think we i think we found a nice happy medium yeah we did it hey man good job hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythicon heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out 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slapping gordon ramsey’s face on it yeah so i might agree with that i don’t think his recipes himself are bad i think that the food media landscape is undervalued and overexploited oh that that’s real deep yeah yeah i think that’s probably the root of what this person’s talking about right uh i don’t think so i just think they think gordon ramsay’s recipes are bad that might make sense too yeah i don’t really like gordon ramsay’s style of food he’s he’s not my thing i love that people love him i know that this sounds silly but i feel like i if i was born in england i would love english food like i love like the idea of like a sunday roast with like yorkshire pudding and like a beautiful piece of meat and some peas on the side like that sounds like a beautiful dish to me i just wasn’t raised on it so i don’t eat it as much i think i think yeah i was gonna say english food gets a bad rap but maybe it’s maybe it’s deserved but there’s like a lot of really delicious i mean one meat pies steak and kidney pie oh my gosh i love steak and kidney pie absolutely delicious toad in a hole yeah bangers are a really delicious sausage what’s that place old king’s head in santa monica yeah yeah oh my god their steak and kidney pies are phenomenal utterly delicious i had ain’t nothing wrong with some just good stodgy starchy british food pasta cornish pasta wait i don’t really know that from harry potter it’s a real dude yeah i don’t know how to say it you should see the way that nicole is holding her mouth she’s holding her mouth like a like an 18th century peasant i can’t explain it about past days i’m awake like you’re it’s wench posture you want some past days dude i do call myself a podcast wench so that makes sense okay scott underscore boujou tuna salad is made better by adding fennel seeds okay i guess i i love fennel seed and italian sausage i love fennel seed all the time fennel seed tastes like mama celeste pizza to me that’s like the one flavor that is the one flavor that i have discerned from like an early age is fennel seed in the sausage of the mama celeste supreme pizza on sale for 79 cents i never got the sausage i would just get purchased that makes sense yeah i’ll get pure cheese i’m sorry sorry it’s not pork in the house because i’m like wait a second what are you talking about there’s no fennel seeds in the cheese the supreme is the same price as the cheese you can’t afford not to get the supreme okay okay got it all right fester the jester are quesadillas a sandwich no no their quesadillas no the quesadillas i believe the quesadilla is a taco um yeah right and same with a grilled cheese is a sandwich um i actually don’t think quesadillas are tacos i think quesadillas are their own dish why how are they different from cheese you can put cheese and cheeses in many tacos cheese purchase melted cheeses but you can put but you can certainly make a quesadilla smaller and actually it’s really funny in in mexico uh shout out to bill esparza um for eliminating this fact there are quesadillas that do not have cheese in them which sounds very strange because case right queso que says like you know means cheese and spinach um i mean it’s just a regional name for a style of taco okay i guess it would just go now but no i believe a sandwich has to be on leavened bread i think anything yeah no it doesn’t it absolutely does never put two pieces of lavash between have you ever heard of the vodka i don’t think i don’t believe that’s the sandwich i believe that is depending on the part of the world you went you’re in i believe a lava what’s a pita pitas levant oh my gosh we need to talk about this but that’s tough then i see what you mean i see what you mean if a lavash is in the sandwich but uh pita is or a lava that stuff so there has to be a mathematical equation we’ll talk about we’ll talk about it on a podcast later jcm hale says french onion dip is a great sandwich spread especially on a ham turkey and colby jack sub i made french onion dip for the first time like two weeks ago wow what a revelation it’s so good but you have to let it sit in the fridge for 24 hours yeah i i absolutely and you have to let the onions cool you’re telling me like you can’t like yeah we made this for the the funyun funyun bloom and onion oh i don’t know about that no i made it like i made it like for the first time like with the with the lipton with the lipton oh oh you’re talking about that yeah we i love that stuff you just add it to the sour cream yeah yeah that’s what i’m talking about oh that stuff’s absolutely i thought you’re talking about the like from scratch french onion dip that you made here where we actually caramelize a bunch of shallots and onions none of that no just the powder that sounds good too i love the powdered stuff and sour cream i would add a little bit of mayonnaise in there that’s right i can’t believe i’ve never used it as a sandwich it’s delicious hmm i do not like plain ruffles but i love they’re the only chip to dip in french i need to they are i’ve never done it but i imagine it in my head right now and it is the only chip that you yup gotta flip it upside down to get the french honey dip to be the first thing that touches your palette okay i’m doing it in my mind you press it with your tongue for your mouth to shatter the ruffles and it shatters in such a uniform way because it has the ridges wow it’s just abs oh so pleasant wow gosh that was really great at strongbeard75 salted caramel is overrated you’re overrated uh i see what you mean because salty caramel is something that got so hype right it was like you could you could charge three dollars more for dessert people like sprinkles yeah it’s good there there is no such thing as salt and unsalted caramel there’s only seasoned and under-seasoned you should be salting all your caramels adding salt to any dessert makes it better the salty makes the sweet taste sweeter yeah but you can’t like you just want people to not say salted caramel anymore kind i mean it’s like red velvet it’s one of those things it’s a trope like a legit red velvet cake is a really delicious thing and it has a lot of historicity behind it um but now that people are just dying cakes red and then just calling it red velvet do you know like the history behind red dough yeah i do of course i know that the the vinegar and the baking powder whatever it comes together makes the color and there’s cocoa in it and i know i know i understand yeah but it was uh cocoa used to be processed with alkaline i’m sorry yes so they’re the baking soda together would make us a ruddy color yeah totally no but what it is is uh i still think people put a little bit of coco in red velvet i think sometimes but i i think like a lot of places don’t like if you go to a normal like grocery section you know uh bakery and then they just have you know you can tell by the color i don’t think they’re dot i don’t think they’re just dying i think i think they’re straight dying vanilla cakes no i think they’re adding cheese frosting on it i think they’re adding a little bit of cocoa i agree i agree i disagree i like salted candles okay my question is what about like salted chocolate i like salty chocolate oh man can you put a little finishing salt on chocolate bar do you think that we should stop doing that no i don’t think anyone should i’m not trying to censor the salted caramel industry being understood he’s just saying overrated okay i’m sorry i think it’s overrated i’m sorry sam.cube says who has time for expensive restaurants whose serving sizes leave people hungry this sounds like my dad i took my dad sounds like all dance i don’t know if i told i probably said the story like 15 times i took my dad to a michelin star restaurant whenever i was in culinary school because i had an interview there and it was in vegas and then we had it and it was like really cute and really delicious and then he goes okay time to go to natin sort of hot dog so like this is a very like common thing and i agree but you go to expensive restaurants to have a full experience you’re not going there just for the food you’re going there for the ambiance you’re going there for the service you’re going there for the bathrooms that are so nice have you ever been to like a really nice bathroom in a restaurant what’s that one soap they all have it’s like apothecary oh my god no no no no no no ugh there’s one fancy soap and it feels nice bothering me asap aesop yeah asap i’ll have aesop soap i miss fancy restaurant i i know i’m a garbage person who likes to eat doritos over the trash um i absolutely love fancy restaurants and like you said it’s very cheap to fill your belly yeah 30 cents of rice you get a belly full of carbs that’ll keep you sustained for a long time right uh and so you go to a fancy restaurant you might drop you know a hundred dollars or more on that you’re doing it to kind of be in service to some sort of art right like not to like overstate the importance of food and all that that’s what you’re going there for you’re going there for the full experience it has nothing to do with filling your belly i don’t want to leave a restaurant full if anything yeah like that’s not something i look for at all in a restaurant if i’m like ordering lunch for the office today like i plan on ordering zenku chicken right after this podcast you are and i know yeah you want in on that order we all i talked to v and me and trevor no well i was gonna get the big family meal because for like 48 bucks you get two whole chickens and six large sides see that’s when i look for like value is when it’s the middle of the day i’m super hungry full of red bull and podcast energy but if i’m going to a fancy restaurant it is like not for the purpose of filling my belly i will go to a taco truck afterwards and enjoy both experiences equally amen at sea france 94 are noodles in broth ramen etc a noodle dish or a soup dish if it can’t be both this is a great question this is a really hard question to answer very hard question i don’t feel like i am the the person to answer this i don’t know if that makes you can opt out you can pass you get that card yeah i i’m not like the authority to talk about this yet i need to do a little bit more research i need to eat a little bit more noodles and eat more soup and then i will let you eat super do you drink soup it’s a noodle dish because soup doesn’t exist that’s why i said that’s why i said the soup doesn’t exist because it makes this problem so much simpler right like it is simply the noodles exist there are things on them and that is all you can be sure about that is what descartes said no he didn’t i’m pretty sure he did renee descartes did not say they picked her up they said the noodles exist therefore they’re noodles uh c c d uperior says i don’t know how to say that see duperrier okay c2p says in my middle school i would put honey mustard on school pizza it was bomb f and i stand by it yeah that sounds good because the pizza there was garbage and i know it yeah honey mustard makes almost everything taste better yesterday i uh i posted a tweet of a meal that i ate which was which was eight slices of lunch meat turkey uh slathered in honey mustard jerky i just i just wanted you know some april protein picked me up yeah and i didn’t want to put any effort into it yeah and what a treat that honey mustard was on that turkey honey mustard unbelievable absolutely it was like just the grocery store stuff which i’m sure is like mostly sugar and some mayonnaise a little bit of mustard uh but it’s absolutely delicious um i think we need to break the red sauce stranglehold on pizza and so i would even love the idea of using a honey mustard like barbecue sauce based pizza yeah okay delicious barbecue chicken pizza honey mustard on the beach honey musty ham and gruyere come on some caramelized onions on there that sounds really good to me it could work freaking chives on it no honey come on give him the honeymoon [Laughter] i think you’re the reason i call it honey musty i’m sorry i created a monster i like honey musty on my chicken nuggets and it’s okay on pizza yeah i’m on i’m on your team oh no i don’t like this one you don’t have to say it no i want to say it boof me news i prefer baked chips for texture i find regular chips oily i eat them with feta so it’s not a health thing what you want buff me news uh what you want are called crackers uh which are big chunks i i do not like them i love though like i mean a baked pita chip is is perfectly fine yeah no no doubt about that like a baked potato chip like the weird octagonal baked lace stop it no to me it’s like it’s very offensive well again though if if you prefer it that’s totally fine and you just eat it with dry feta i have a feeling this might be a whipped fetish situation but maybe i’m just thinking too i think too highly of this person bro the fire feta at uh what used to be called daphne’s greek cafe then it turned into daphne’s california grill and now it’s yala yeah mediterranean grill that’s it yeah the fire but they kept the fire feta through all the name changes it’s like the only item they kept maybe the salad dressing too but it is it’s just like feta whipped with maybe like yogurt and some sort of chilies probably lots of mayonnaise oh probably lots of yeah it’s really a lot of mayonnaise right yeah really good i would love to dip chips in that even if they were baked the firefighter would carry it through absolutely bcbrat8150 says coca-von is king uh kokovon was king but i mean like who who has kokovo nowadays who makes coco vaughn i have made kokobon once and i didn’t even use a real cook i just used a kind of chicken because you’re supposed to use like a as a bread poulet breast maybe all i know is that it’s just a culinary school staple and yeah it’s good but it’s not king it’s like i don’t know a duke at most who got him i really i love pokemon it’s it’s not something i would like really it’s not something i crave it’s like hearty it’s like too hardy there’s a lot of those like french peasant dishes that are like really good like you’re talking about the british food you know it’s kind of like just hearty rich food that tastes like pretty fantastic like i love a cassoulet casserole i was gonna say cassoulet is like my ideal french dish because it’s just choline i like yeah it is choline oh my god that’s so funny every culture figured out you just make a giant pot of beans with some stuff in it and it’s pretty dang good yeah yams are the switzerland of thanksgiving dinner also i love you guys oh thank you at lindsay lou who uh yams are the switch let’s break this down switzerland uh policy of non-intervention neutrality uh-huh maybe fudge that one up in world war ii also didn’t give women the right to vote till the 70s which is very switzerland was like the last country to give except for i think luxembourg was like 1982 but look how interesting apparently i mean from what i’ve read i’m sure the swiss suffragettes uh in the movement would disagree from what i read though there was kind of like a lot of people didn’t want it there’s like ah we’re fine we’re fine we don’t want to rock the boat uh who really cares um but anyway switzerland uh yams i don’t know i think i think yams are actually kind of polarizing yeah i don’t think especially with the marshmallows yams are not the switzerland i think stuffing is switzerland no i think mashed potatoes are such a limit oh mash because stuffing is at least stuffing is at least temporarily specific right you don’t need that any other time mashed potatoes are like look if you want to fill your belly we got mashed potatoes here you could be eating them on any other night it’s not specific to this meal yeah here’s just some white creamy and offensive starchy mashed potatoes correct well glad we got glad we solved that problem yeah also love you too lindsay luhoo yeah for it 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