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many things joanne the scammer joe who is joining white claw all right so the reason i’m saying the great hard seltzer scam here it’s not technically a scam because they find ways around it but the reason i really wanted to talk about this is because i don’t think a lot of people know what exactly heart seltzer is especially white claw which you’re familiar with white chronicles i am but i don’t know what it is i just know that it’s an easy drink that’s all people know what it’s an easy drink it’s an easy drink yeah it tastes great you don’t have to think about anything whenever you’re drinking white cloth nothing it’s purely neutral which is a great segue into what it actually is uh it’s plain flavored beer so okay so there is one of my favorite jokes from the simpsons i bet bill oakley wrote this he is a friend of the podcast go listen to the bill oakley guest episode if you have a chance uh but they’re the bible themed theme park that ned flanders creates he goes oh we got all kinds of foods we got gummies and bart goes what flavor gummies it’s my favorite flavor plain and like that is literally what white claw is it is a plain flavored beer they brew it in the same exact method and they do that because it’s cheaper because of tax laws to brew something as a fermented malt beverage as opposed to say like hard alcohol inside seltzer so when they say like spiked seltzer what i imagine that as is like a bit of hard grain alcohol like vodka or even just something like everclear right that’s put into a seltzer water which is something that people have been drinking at crappy concert venues for years you know exactly my question is is then why doesn’t it taste like beer and don’t say because they remove it with science unless it is how they do remove it with science no actually this is really fascinating something i didn’t know before we started researching uh this podcast they don’t brew it with marley they with marley with bob marley they don’t brew with barley so the flavor in beer i mean obviously they add hops and whatnot but you know it comes from that fermented barley what they do with white claw is they’re just fermenting plain cane sugar that has almost no taste when you distill the alcohol so rum i mean rum is like you know made in barrels and that’s where you get a lot of the flavor and i think it’s made with the molasses from green sugar but they’re taking like okay literally the most base level way to make alcohol of fermenting plain white sugar and then turning that into essentially beer so it is just plain flavored beer and i know it’s not actually a scam because you know it’s following all the tax laws and everything but like i think people don’t i don’t there’s this lack of self-awareness when it comes to white claw drinking and i think it’s like fascinating to break down all the facets about it but like you said it’s a very easy drink and i have drank a lot of i am very pro white claw i’m very pro i’ve always been pro pro white claw when’s the first time you had a white cloth do you remember your first claw man yes i went to i think i went to go watch a football game you watched the football game yeah of course i watched them like in person no okay and the television and then uh i was i was just hanging out with a bunch of dudes and i had a white clown i was like cool this tastes like jolly rancher water and that’s what it was that’s pretty much it had you had you been exposed to white claw discourse before that never so you hadn’t heard of it at all and you just drank it you’re like this is a new product in the market yeah but i’m always the kind of girl and they go like here try this i say okay like i’m just a very open-minded person so if someone’s handing me a drink that’s closed i have to specify this is veering in the strength if you hand me a drink that’s closed and you know safe to drink and you say hey try this i’ll probably try it because i’m a curious person i like to try new things yeah i agree with that i drink a lot of questionable stuff in college i will drink anything that is offered to me we used to make something simply called riot punch that was mostly blue hawaiian punch and green alcohol and a little bit of lemon juice in there for flavor is that the cousin of milk punch from yes it’s always sunny yes yes actually no it riot punch uh is a joke from it’s all the sunny and we stole the recipe essentially we put in a big gatorade uh container anyways the first time i had a white claw it was similar with a bunch of dudes uh watching college football we were like on vacation and we got this airbnb at the beach up in pismo beach it’s really fantastic and i like heard of whiteclaw and i was like well these things have existed for forever right and i’d like seen them in the like liquor case when you go to like say a ralph’s grocery store you go to like the cold beer section and there’s always like 1 30th of the rack is partitioned off for the like various mike’s hard lemonade adjacent beverages isn’t mike’s hard lemonade heart seltzer so mike’s hard lemonade is a fermented malt beverage so it is like essentially the same thing and the parent company mike’s hard lemonade is the same one that makes white claw oh oh well there you go which is to me a very fascinating part of this whole thing i think this whole hard seltzer charade i don’t think it’s a scam it’s a charade but shirad doesn’t sound as good in a title no it’s the great hard seltzer smart decisions from a business standpoint that’s what it is it honestly is it is a genius business proposition because the real scam is that we’ve been scamming ourselves into convincing ourselves that we love light beer right i don’t like light beets i don’t like light beer either who likes who’s gonna drink a michelob ultra just to drink it nobody no and i agree i mean there are a lot of people out there who will just like drink light beers from the enjoyment but i mean ever since i was 21 you know i’ve been i felt like i was pressured to think that i enjoy light beer right like you’re interested it’s a very i mean maybe this is a kind of like male thing where you have to like prove your masculinity by how much light beer you can crush which to me is wild because light beer is literally just like lower calorie beer it’s the virginia slims oh nice of beer products you know yeah yeah okay and so like i’ve had to you know go up to go to football tailgates parties whatever it’s like oh man this this bud light that’s been sitting out at room temp for the last 48 minutes is delicious i love it i could drink 30 of these and you would drink 30 of them i would drink there i mean not quite 30. that’s wade boggs level but who’s weight boss wade bogg’s a baseball player this is another it’s all a sunny reference oh my gosh i remember that one when they go into the airplane yeah and they all drink and they’re just really really drunk on the plane and then they get to the field yeah yeah totally great great episode uh why are we talking about it’s always sunny like i don’t know i must have i must have i must have watched an episode recently okay but like people were convinced that they should like the taste of light beer and i mean i generally like the taste of the heavy equivalents of light beers yeah what’s uh what’s a is heineken a heavy beer i don’t know i know i think heineken has a light i’m not a big fan of heineken but i i love like coors banquet i think it’s a really fantastic you’ve never heard you never had courses just like budweiser straight but heavy no nope you never had but didn’t you make something for gmm called buddha yes i did i feel like i brought up the fact that my head was in it no no i just shed a lot and my hair wasn’t accidentally but like miller genuine draft like these you know somewhat fuller flavored beers and then their light beer equivalent to me just tastes like i mean it tastes like a beer flavored hard seltzer ah and now they make hard seltzer without the beer flavor thus exposing the great charade that people ever liked the taste of par of light beer because they didn’t yeah it tastes like peepee it tastes like baby right it tastes like pee pee i don’t like it no i don’t like it either i had a gag reflex i could not smell i literally i could not smell a light beer because of an unfortunate incident but like i couldn’t smell light beer without gagging yeah i’m sure for years yeah you want the dumb and dumber thing yeah yeah exactly exactly but no and now people just realize that they don’t like it and the sales of hard seltzer have like completely exploded over the last three years especially you know what i’m a big fan of hard kombucha hard come yes i love heart kabucha i had some recently and it was delicious and it had like a mushroom on it and i was like wow those are crazy what brand i don’t remember had a mushroom on it there’s a brand of hard kombucha that i’ve been drinking called giant but with a j so maybe yeah i’ve seen that one before very very pretty cans yeah you know and it tastes delicious like speaking of scamming ourselves into thinking things taste good because i think that’s a phenomenon that happens a lot are you talking about light view you’re talking about white cloth i’m talking about light beer because white claw it doesn’t taste great but you make the trade-off yeah of like this thing is providing me with alcohol which is a thing that makes me happy it tastes a little bit worse than just the thing without alcohol yeah so that’s why i’m going to drink it yeah but like white cloth significantly less offensive than light beard to get you to that goal yes what’s your favorite white cloth flavor black cherry ew i know no one likes black cherry which is perfect for me because i get all the black cherries yeah yeah i i really love mango but i prefer groovy grapefruit the grapefruit is good because it yeah i feel like grapefruit is the most it’s like the most commonly known seltzer flavor like like uh like i like i think when people think of lacroix they think of pamplemoose because it’s pamplemousse pamplemousse because it’s named pamplement i don’t know why i like saying it like but i think like grapefruit is such a seltzer watery soda watery thing yeah which is really interesting yeah one time i played flip cup with with uh white claw great idea oh don’t play flip cup outside with wine on a hot day wine yeah i played flip cup with uh with red wine once i would have a headache yeah no that happened pretty quick that happened pretty quick yeah are there other foods out there that you think people have sort of scammed themselves into thinking tastes good because you mentioned kombucha i feel like i naturally love the flavor of kombucha it’s it’s sour it’s fizzy it’s a little bit sweet it’s vinegar but i like vinegar yeah i like vinegar but do you think like a lot of people out there are drinking it for the benefit that they think it gives them where like white cloth or light beer the benefit that people thought they were getting was that you know like we’re happy because we drank alcohol yeah no i think kombucha is one of those things that people are just like well i’ll just drink it because it’s good for me do you think in 10 years we’re gonna see like this huge kombucha relapse where everyone’s like yo that time when we were drinking straight vinegar was gross i wonder if there’s gonna be studies that say actually kombucha hasn’t done diddly squat for you i always think that’s what i’m curious cause like have you noticed any change in your body since you started drinking kombucha no because i don’t care yeah i kind of i think about that a lot where i kind of feel like i’m so unaware of my own body and what it’s doing i think we used to do yoga josh nah i tried doing yoga but i like uh i tore my rotator cuff and hurt my achilles we need to do something to like center us so that we’re more aware of our bodies yeah this podcast is a cry for help can someone please come to the studio and just like uh center our cheeks center our cheeks center my cheek please make us feel good you know like i don’t know if it’s reiki healing if it’s yoga if we just need a therapist to come in maybe that could help the white claws are masking the true issues give me give me three white claws and an acupuncturist and i feel like i’ll be centered for years to come cuffing a little bit of wet cup and fire cupping fire fire cupping haircut don’t do alcohol near fire cupping no that’s a recipe for disaster there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but 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your membership plus ten dollars off your first order that’s butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to claim this deal nicole there was another canned beverage that was popular with our generation what was it there was a can bed we could call this the white claw of our early drinking years i’m talking about the locos oh i can’t i can’t all i remember was burping and nothing else that was what four lokos were designed to do which i think speaks to like the moment of the time what were people doing back in what was like 2010 2012 or something maybe around that time yeah yeah like what were people doing okay so four logos for context were in 23 and a half ounce can so let’s say 24 let’s round up and they were 12 percent alcohol you asked about vodka red bulls yeah how many vodka red bulls are in a can of four logo six no six yeah straight up same amount of caffeine and i’m not sure about the amount of caffeine hold on i want to google this i’m going to be sick from the thought of that how was that legal uh well very quickly it was not legal my god how do they get past that okay so people say about 155 milligrams of caffeine per can which is the equivalent of about two red bulls that’s a lot of red bulls ish it’s not like a ton a ton of caffeine but if you’re drinking multiple of them that’s where the danger comes in but like the main danger was that this is it’s an entire bottle of wine is what it is that you’re drinking if you drink a can of four loko and so that’s equivalent of i mean six white claws or six standard light beers which is 12 ounces at four percent which is absolutely incredible but like seeing how people’s tastes have changed hopefully better and again for loco there were i believe a couple of underage drinking deaths because if kids are drinking six drinks and they don’t know it i remember seeing a post on yahoo answers like years ago where some teen said like hey i’m 16 years old and going to a concert and um my friends tasked me to bring the beer and i was thinking of bringing four loco brand beer does anyone know if this beer is i was like no like if you’re thinking that four loko is like a bud light yeah i mean you totally understand why like all those terrible things happened um and again that was our generation’s white claw white claw is also our generation’s white claw yeah i mean no white claws a little bit more compact it’s you know single serving there’s no caffeine in it thank god for that i i think i think it’s much more of a well-adjusted product it is i think well-adjusted is a good way to put it because i think that’s part of the cell yeah exactly right like i think you can kind of follow the way that uh beer sales have fallen they haven’t fallen but beer sales in the last year jumped one percent which is like nothing for market growth and then hard seltzer sales jumped something like 225 percent it’s incredible which is unreal and so that’s why all these beer companies are now coming out with their own hard seltzers um natty light natty light peach flavored hard seltzer fan freaking tastic interesting and as as a die-hard natty light stand i absolutely respect what is that what is the full name of natty light uh natural natural light never have i ever had a natural light what about busch light what bush light keystone light i don’t drink these alcohol you gotta drink the the third tier light beers those are because they all taste the same no i i like to drink modelos and pacificos i like mandela’s pacificos those they don’t sell those in in uh what we would have called racks or bricks which is a 30 pack uh-huh or cubes people call them yes yes yes yes yes um so you need to get the ones that that fit in cubes um why because they fit into your fridge better yeah you know they stack better and learning so much about your culture today it’s great so much so interesting but i think i think the rise and fall of the diet soda industry mimics that with the beer industry as it relates to seltzers because lacroix exploded i mean maybe what like six seven years ago okay so yeah lacroix absolutely exploded they they got into costco and now i mean how many there’s like waterloo um there’s oh love me some spin drift but there’s all these big uh non-hard seltzer soft seltzer brands of sparkling water i think it’s just seltzer i think it’s just seltzer seltzer well there’s hard seltzer soft seltzer no celsius no just because one exists does not mean in this universe the other one has to exist you could have like a soft drink right oh that’s literally where it comes from it’s the opposite of a hard drink which it means has alcohol in it oh well now my whole theory’s just gone to poop and then in the book of mormon they use the term hot drink to describe anything about this the not the musical yeah an actual book of mormon yeah it started as a book and then got turned into a musical oh yeah yeah you know what i mean oh i see kind of like kind of like the rugrats story of passover yeah originally that was in a that was in like a book [Laughter] although the rugrats did a really good job of summarizing it and that’s still where i know mostly so is the book of mormon actually the book of mormon yeah like the the like mormon bible is called the book of mormon yeah yeah but the play that we watch no that’s not like that’s not like a theatrical version of the events in the actual book funny yeah it’s like a comedy from trey parker i drink too many heart seltzers before the podcast josh explains religion to nicole it’s a comedy play josh gad was the original lead uh anyways let’s talk about the the rise and fall of heart of heart is that is that a freaking the snowman what the snowman yeah olaf yeah bro i just watched frozen two days ago for the first time i drank a bunch of cocktails and watched frozen it was a great time yeah a really engaging character i really liked him sorry diet soda as they’ve seen the same like lack of growth in sales and that’s because of stuff like lacroix and spindrift and all that and i think it’s like because people think they’re healthier by not drinking uh um artificial sweeteners so like there’s been a lot of negative pr about aspartame and all these things it makes sense links to cancer which i’ve read the research i don’t actually believe it’s linked to cancer but like it can’t be good for you to cheat god that way you know with artificial sweeteners that’s something i think about a lot you simply can’t cheat god um but anyways i think people think that with hard seltzer it seems like virtuous right it seems like it’s healthier than beer but they’re like the same amount of calories oh they are a lot of people think that hard salts are has less calories than beer but the whole point of light beer is to do a beer with fewer calories and so like some light beers i mean uh miller introduced one called miller 64 that has 64 calories per 12 ounces and white claw is at around 100 and almost every standard light beer is between 90 and 100 calories i never knew that i believe there’s like fewer carbs technically and i think like one of the first times i heard about white claw i believe was from like someone who self-identified as keto interesting god how did keto become like a lifestyle identifier now i don’t know but i kind of did and so there might be something to do with net carbs because it’s just from sugar and not barley and i don’t really know all about that but like there’s this sort of uh like virtue of health idea that yeah white claw in parts and like the white cans you know implying purity the water implying purity exactly what about smearing off ice josh oh my god i’m so glad you brought up stupid life how does smirnoff ice before uh smear if you want something that tastes like a jolly rancher smirnoff ice tastes like a jolly rancher really is meggie mad that you’ve never had a smear enough ice yeah yeah sorry maggie i’ve never been iced before now’s your chance i mean be good if i just pulled one out from under the table uh no smearing off ice is really good but the thing is it has a ton of sugar in it uh-huh and so white claws technically they have like i believe a tiny bit of sugar that just comes from the artificial flavoring they’re added they’re adding they put a little bit of sugar in there around it but all the sugar that they use to ferment it into this weird like beer seltzer proto alcohol thing uh ferments into alcohol and so it’s not digested with sugar or whatever the only sugar you’re consuming you’re getting drunk off of which is the point and so smearing off ice i think you know smirnoff ice didn’t have the opportunity to get into this heart cells again because there’s so much sugar in it and even if they made diet smearing off ice people are so against artificial sweeteners these days yeah that this beer like white claw is beer the green is people is smooth enough ice beer uh yeah it’s the same thing it’s like it’s a fermented malt beverage but it’s beer but it’s like you know equivalent to like a soda just because it’s like very heavily sweetened okay so you’re trying to tell me that all these things that i’ve known my whole entire life were beer yeah i would call them beer i mean i know beer purists would come in and say they’re not beer but for all intents and purposes i would consider these fermented malt beverages if you go to this store you like to do this i’m going to do too if i go to circle hey josh thanks for coming over can you bring a six-pack of beer and then you’re like hey i brought some bone and beef i’d be like go back to the store that’s not beer i i do agree with you and i’m using beer in like a very loose term just to kind of like prove a point that everything that is new was once old so who’s the real scammer i’m real skimmer white claw in hard seltzer it’s not a scam but to me it’s just like it’s very strange and it almost kind of like exposed this decades-long light beer scam where we all pretended to like it but we didn’t i was never a part of that universe though i think it i think it must be i think it’s a somewhat like masculine experience i guess you know and i think a lot of people dealt with that and they were pressured i didn’t i’m sorry but now it’s some share the experience that you did but now our kids get kids are 21 year olds getting pressured into drinking white claws now like are you gonna be the odd man out if you like don’t prefer a white claw like are there drinking games being played with white clothes is it gonna become the same light beer culture around white claw i don’t think so you do you think light beer is gonna like stay i do being in that regard i think yeah i think there’s there’s an attractiveness to to light beer i don’t see it but i think it’s there for like the college kids like you know that just turned 21 kids like they want to try and do things that are that have already been set in place for them you know continue the legacy of light beer it makes sense and like i have a lot of fond memories associated with like like in in college and you know drinking with friends and it’s something that you can like sip on and drink a fair amount of without feeling too bad because there’s so little alcohol in calories in it but i remember when i had these white cloths for the first time with like with like my best friends when we went up to pismo beach uh someone brought like a 12 pack of white claw and then of course we had like 90 light beers with us we had a lot of friends it’s not like three months there were like 15 of us okay remember back when people could like gather in a place oh my god the best we used to do that we had like 15 of us in a bunch of beer uh and we all like drank this 12-pack of white claw and we’re like oh now it’s time to crack into the light beer and then everyone’s kind of stared at it and we’re like hey someone in the liquor store and get more white cloth yeah and we did and then we only drank white claws and well and natty laid hard peach seltzer throughout this entire weekend because we’re like after drinking white clouds like there’s no reason to go back to light beer and we’re not trying to like impress anyone you know like and we have just we have disposable income because none of us have like kids or any real lives uh and white clothes are a little bit more expensive less cost prohibitive and so we just drank white glass and so like i understand the appeal and it is god it’s better than light beer they made a fantastic product at the exact right time of cultural moments that all came together and now it’s crazy watching all these companies try and like reap that round up what they can yeah because they all are all the big beer manufacturers are making hard seltzers and like more power to them what’s your favorite heart seltzer other than uh white cloth truly you like truly have never had trouble literally okay what’s your favorite like uh soda water like you have like oh love perrier it’s right next to me i love perrier uh it’s really funny that you have the tall perrier can because that’s like a pretty that’s like a pretty um perrier’s got the bougie can okay you mean you mean the style of can is higher yeah it’s it’s the taller thinner sexier yeah it’s sleek it’s a sleeker can so i was talking about the diet soda industry and how it’s kind of trying to mimic the seltzer water industry right so diet coke back in 2018 do you remember the the new diet coke flavors they introduced i don’t even look at diet coke when i walk past it i don’t drink diet coke i like regular coke i am a huge fan of diet coke because you can drink 80 of them and it only makes you stronger the chemicals and then preserve your blood from the inside out the taste of aspartame makes me uncomfortable yeah that’s why you got to keep drinking it until it doesn’t no no no no no that’s how diet coke works no no it’s not not how life works no so diet coke introduces new flavors and they introduce them in new cans uh that look like the perrier can or look like you know the bougie lacroix what’s oh yeah the mixed flavor the mix flavors and they are in french i don’t like them i i like give me pumbaa any day i don’t even know what it means but they’re in this they’re in the sexy tall cans so diet coke introduced these new flavors in sexy tall cans and they had flavors that very strongly mimicked these fancy flavors of lacroix it was like blood orange black cherry uh one had some sort of like spice in it yeah dude there was black cherry in blood orange diet coke and they all tasted things really bad the craziest thing like diet coke was obviously trying to mimic seltzer water whatever but then the director of diet coke which is a great title that i would like to have one day for the coca-cola corporation referred to it as america’s top no calorie sparkling beverage oh wow didn’t even consider it soda yeah that’s incredible yeah and i’m wondering if like you know talking about is hard seltzer technically beer i’m wondering if beer eventually is just gonna start calling itself heart seltzer because that’s what it is it’s barley flavored heart seltzer you think it’s gonna start to go in that direction i mean the way it’s going just do by the sails i think so i mean i think beer is still king and i don’t think it’s ever actually gonna be surpassed but i mean it is like absolute exponential growth and i think once you tear down this charade that anyone ever looks like beer charade oh it’s charade since what that sounds fancy and i’m a fancy young man charade is a name who drinks my witty claw so what you’re trying to say is you want to create a a drink that is basically beer yeah and just title it hops flavored seltzer yeah yeah indeed put some we’ll get like a cool graphic designer yeah used to work for vice yeah let’s give it a cool name let’s give it like like a cool like like approachable name yeah yeah like uh sherrod sherrod oh call out we get comedian sharad brown to uh yeah brown and comedian i don’t know who is that i’m gonna google sherrod brown i don’t know oh schrod brown’s a senator and he’s yeah yeah charade brown is a senator we’ll get senator sherrod brown uh who is where is he from ohio sounds good to me she’s gonna market it’s good to me our new heart cells are also it’s we’re gonna have a hop slaver but also i have this idea where i want to ferment bananas into seltzer okay because i really like banana flavors bananas get you junk yeah oh bananas could definitely get you drunk i’ve never gotten drunk on bananas but i mean bananas have a ton of sugar and starch you can absolutely feel my bananas i think we need to make banana and banana call banana girl did you ever drink 99 bananas the bananas not liquor yeah i did do you remember those buzz balls buzz ball okay we could go to an in conclusion you’ve heard what we have to say i want to take this moment nicole to do an in memoriam go for it of all of the beverages that should have surpassed whiteclaw as the heir apparent to the beer throne i’m talking mike’s hard lemonade all right absolutely delicious i’m talking about the bud light clamato michelada oh my god a can of beer with clam juice and hot sauce it’s a can of beer but the sign of acid reflux is what it is and i love it it’s absolutely delicious i’m talking red’s apple ale i’m talking about buzz balls oh well i’m talking about smearing off ice all lost to the sands of time because there ain’t no laws when you’re drinking claws hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythicon heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big ol bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability all right nicole i’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] that was good that was maybe the best one we’ve done we have montana we’re growing as podcast hosts and as friends okay first up we got a right 311 ruffles cheddar and sour cream chips with honey on them uh honey cheddar sour cream yep yeah that’s a win for me all i’ve learned is that ruffles cheddar and sour cream is a dessert chip this is what i’ve learned from other people’s have other people said this yeah people have said that they’ve had ruffles and cheddar ruffles cheddar with sour cream with sweet things i personally had it with whipped cream ones and i was like my life has changed so yeah it’s the world’s first and only dessert chip one one thing i i’d like to bring up and if i make grandstand for a moment okay i’d like to advocate here for wet chips i am okay with wet chips well yesterday we were on set we had a large family-sized bag of nacho cheese doritos which i enjoy but i prefer a spicy chip so what i did is i took about a half a cup of secret aardvark hot sauce and i dumped that into the bag and i shook it and then i ate them with my hands and then i proceeded to get hot sauce all over every piece of media yeah yeah i have a story like that so there was this girl in culinary school that had a big time crush on me so we would sit in the back and just like hang out and then one time she took a she’s like hey i brought us lunch and i’m like oh my god dope and then she brought out a bag of ruffles cheddar and sour cream and a bottle of cholula and she said here you go so during the whole class we were just like dipping our hands in the bag and then taking the bottle and just putting it on the chip and eating it that’s like my ideal romantic right you gotta you don’t like let it soak like cereal where it gets soggy no you just you literally just dab and go yeah any wet chips are great joe the funky homo sapien says white chocolate reese’s are better than milk chocolate reese’s fight me first of all i’m a pacifist second of all i love white chocolate third of all i don’t like white chocolate with peanut butter i’m a pacifist i’ll pass a fist across your face um no i agree i love white chocolate i love white chocolate but to me the whole point of reese’s is to get the flavor combination of milk chocolate and peanut butter which is a great combination yeah if you’re eating white chocolate reese’s you just want peanut butter and peanut butter yeah what you should do is take peanut butter melt it down add some chocolate chips to it mix it so it’s fully combined and then you have what you want yeah just eat your sweet peanut paste all right we got at ral on condensed milk is the sweet equivalent of ranch yes in the same sense that you should drizzle ranch on everything you eat you should drizzle condensed milk on any dessert you eat that’s a good idea yeah yeah but it’s settled condensed milk is sweet ranch congratulations you will get your medal in the mail in approximately four to six months we have really bad shipping times here yeah no international eatery says chocolate cookies with chocolate filling dipped in crunchy peanut butter is the ultimate snack i don’t think it’s the ultimate snack i think it’s a good snack and i would eat that but it’s definitely not the ultimate snack i do like to take a big spoonful of crunchy peanut butter and then dip it in some chocolate chips and then eat it that way that’s good my favorite thing i just take a spoonful of crunchy peanut butter and then i spread it on a whole nanner and then i eat the whole manner hold on man i just i hoist the nanner in my hands and i squeeze it a little bit and then i smear the crunchy peanut butter on it and then i get to eat a nice chunky covered nanner hand nanners uh you know what i don’t like though i i don’t like you know my thoughts on cookies i’m not i love i don’t know your thoughts on cookies we did a whole podcast cookie thoughts i don’t hear anything we do man i can’t remember so much yesterday you’re thinking so much you did three months anyways i like chocolate chip cookies but they’re like not my favorite don’t super love chocolate chips i’m there for the crunchy cookie you know uh but i especially do not like chocolate based cookies with chocolate chips or any chocolate filling in it to me it’s too much chocolate okay i need the chocolate to be countered so not a big fan of some peanut butter i’m sorry but i still love and respect you as a person eat a reed at bryce is cursed sorry bryce that you got cursed by an old bog witch spam baked with mustard brown sugar and pineapple is delicious okay sounds good it does sound mustard brown sugar and pineapple on ham is delicious we’re not talking ham we’re talking about spam and also we’re talking about spam being baked what’s the issue with that because spam to me the way to get it good is to crisp it you gotta like crisp it with direct heat content so like fried spam unreal heavily griddled spam is great but i’m imagining they’re baking a whole spam loaf you know when you grip the spam candy yeah yeah you shake it out many times yes i don’t know if i want a whole baked spam loaf if that’s what they’re talking about if you’re talking about slices abso freaking lutely that sounds delicious yeah that sounds great it reminds me so whenever you were talking about big brick escape spam there’s like muck bangers that take oh no oh no what they just go on i was just anticipating they take big bricks of spam and they air fry it and then they eat it and it’s like it’s really enjoyable for me um okay we should probably let’s use this let’s see how many comments we get from from listeners on this would you watch nicole host a mukbang video because we’ve been trying to float this idea out here of nicole loves mukbang cultures it’s so beautiful to me yeah and i feel like you feel like you could do it i oh sure i sure can i basically muck fake in my mirror when i’m home by myself i basically practice nicole turn your alone time into content welcome to the digital media economy fine i guess yeah just let us know if you want to see a show of me doing that because i think it would be crazy yeah sound off on the twitter jake underscore vote underscore says marinara is the best chip dip falls have you ever had onion dip um there is a chip dip that is very similar to marinara except it’s spicy it’s called salsa this person wants spiceless salsa that’s what they’re doing oh no marinara is a very specifically cooked sauce like it no it’s not it is literally the opposite of a specifically cooked sauce marinara like doesn’t exist outside of like the american context right marinara is not like an italian sauce what are you talking about marinara exists what what are the ingredients amanda tomato tomato paste bacon ah not all basically onion like marinara is the american term that we use to call any red sauce right we put any sort of tomatoes on something you say like all those marinara on it okay sure but it’s like literally just a very specific dish and term that comes from naples and then in the american context it got sort of bastardized like in uh in australia for instance they call any red sauce uh passata okay i got got a noise for etching of passata that’s not australian at all my god what was that never heard of posada before it’s really interesting um and so but like the marinara that we get in a jar if you were to add chopped pickled jalapenos a little bit of vinegar to marinara you’d probably get something close to like a paste picante sauce you would no you know what you would get you would get el pato you get alpato which i love that stuff’s good at sabrina starns 965 tobasco on pancakes is yummy i don’t care how many side looks i get from the fam you’re getting two side looks here the acceptable way to put tabasco on pancakes is if it is in the splash radius for your hash browns yeah yeah yeah because tabasco got the got the hard stopper and it’s really liquidy yeah so you get some splash sometimes and because i’ve had tabasco with a little bit of maple syrup on pancakes because i splash it heavily on the hash browns heavily on your hashbrowns heavily my hash hashbrowns and it’s not bad on pancakes it’s not my ideal i’d prefer that that’s okay prefer cereal that’s all right i made the other day so um i have like this great new home bar set up and yeah so much i don’t talk about that often but anyways my great new home bar set up i’ve been making my favorite cocktail which is a penicillin yes it requires honey ginger syrup which didn’t really sell in stores so i made my own honey ginger syrup with the cocktail but one morning uh julia and i were making waffles and i was like you know what i want something to spice this up i put that honey ginger syrup on my waffles was it amazing oh my god amazing but then i ran out of cocktails oh well it’s always the hand what is it don’t bite the hand that feeds you is that that metaphor makes no sense for this stuff it does listen to a nine inch nail song why don’t you okay real stevie underscore wonder wow this is a really good opinion cake in a bowl of milk is great oh my god the milk hydrates the cake and it’s so satisfying to slurp up the moist cake i use okay so whenever i first started working in a chocolate store my friend yvonne and i used to do this all the time and literally it was the best thing in the world so um this is the best opinion i’ve ever seen on this darn show so way to go real stevie underscore wondered i love you this is just uno leche cake no it’s not it’s just um they make choices see gracias uh no i i agree i mean it is delicious as a lover of wet foods myself one of the funniest tweets i’ve ever seen said trace light chase in this economy i remember you told me that one josh imagine right now you had a shallow bowl yeah yeah i’m listening i’m listening hit me hit me hit me stop you’re making me laugh and then it’s a slice of cake chocolate cake chocolate cake three layers also has chocolate frosting oh okay okay and then and then listen listen chocolate frosting on the outside oh go on and then there’s rainbow sprinkles oh i like the sprinkles yeah hey go ahead go ahead come on why don’t you pour the cold milk over it oh yeah just like it’s so good yeah just like the opinion that we just read yeah that does sound basically what i’m saying is basically what i’m saying is i’m so obsessed with this opinion it’s the best opinion i’ve ever seen and i’m in love with you i’m in love with you okay go i agree you’re an absolutely beautiful person this is a fantastic opinion uno leche cake is here today stop saying no it’s not lychee not to roll uh all right at jeff rocky all food can be divided into three categories this is interesting soup salad or sandwich okay what is a what is ropa vieja oh salad what do you mean of course robave has a salad it’s a dish it’s not soupy enough to be a soup there’s no starch on it to be a sandwich a cake piece of cake piece of cake sandwich it’s literally you just described a cake as having three layers obviously that’s bread and filling it’s a sandwich just because it’s like a club sandwich the three layer cake is a close enchiladas also a sandwich because it’s got it’s it’s a starch with filling okay a stew what’s a stew soup it’s liquidy food like why is that difficult to understand for people a bag of chips no salad it depends on what’s going on a pack of veggie straws what oh that’s a soup because you use straws to slurp liquid uh no i i think the soup celery sandwich thing does i think it does hint at something like kind of very real in the sense that these food categories that we all talk about like hot dogs being sandwiches etc yeah it’s all like very made up but this person made it up it’s how i feel about continents continents don’t exist europe and asia won land mass not separate separation yeah so but when people say like well there’s this many continents and that’s a fact in europe and asia and australia you don’t believe in conte are you no i don’t believe you’re a flat no but if we go by the definition there are ice walls around the government guards them um no but if we go by like the definition of continent as like you know a large land mass that is surrounded by by water and then it’s like well europe and asia why are there two there’s there’s a dividing range of mountains yeah so it just it is there’s a dividing range of mountains people got across them obvi yeah with planes no people crossed do you think people did not go from europe to asia before planes yeah no no that’s called the silk road yeah it’s actually boats boats and the silk anyways they do not climb the mountain all soups they yeah they figured out what are the euros the euro are they the euro mountains i think the caucus isn’t it the caucus we need to play more nat geo quizzes on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we’ve got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handy’s audit with the hashtag opinion casserole and for more mythical chicken check us out on youtube we launch new videos every week you said mythical chickens we’re re-branding we’re mythical chicken now and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen we’re a new nashville hot chicken pop-up competing with the other 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