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our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendy zade and today nicole that was a very convoluted intro for a very convoluted question yeah it made my head hurt yeah i don’t understand what we’re talking about the connection of the moors it’s a it’s a really fascinating history of the tomato because everyone associates tomatoes with italian food yes but it’s a new world crop italians didn’t have tomatoes until what is the new what is the new world tell us what’s in the world new world i don’t know do the listeners know i don’t know oh maybe not maybe not maybe not so new world crops refers to the uh i guess the term discovery is not completely apt of north america by you know european traders and then that spread throughout the middle east in asia so there were no peppers in uh europe middle east or asia until you know say 1492 if you want to believe that that is the foundational myth of the discovery of the americas okay um so yeah literally any sort of pepper so you think about like you know spicy food in thailand you think about the um tomatoes in italy none of that existed oh potatoes are another new world crop they come from peru nice and so people think of there’s another question that i hope to god we don’t answer on this uh are mashed potatoes just irish guacamole oh well obviously oh obviously but they’re not potatoes are peruvian they’re not even irish if you like really really really go back oh so anyways avocados and potatoes from the same part of the world uh yeah i mean avocados are you know from from mexico interesting um yeah it really is interesting so anyways point is today we’re discussing is ketchup a smoothie yes what the heck do you mean what do you mean josh it’s a pulverized fruit it’s not a fruit okay so that but that does get to the root of this right exactly that’s the reason this question is the reason the only reason i am speaking about this dumb stupid thing is because i said that tomato is a fruit and i stand by that logic 100 percent the the reason we’re discussing this in the first place this isn’t um i don’t think a particular academic interest of either of correct i’m a little interested in it i uh ours think it’s cool i think it’s not nice to find the root of things this is something that people have sent me this question on twitter they sent both of us this question on twitter so many times of if tomato is a fruit then ketchup is a smoothie and you’re right it’s like a it’s a pulverized fruit in a somewhat thick liquid form it probably has the same viscosity as a lot of smoothies yeah i’m talking about the viscosity the texture the slurp ability everything about it is smoothie like i here’s here’s where i fall in this question are you ready for this are you ready for this nicole it’s about to get real stupid it’s not to get no it’s about to get real souvenir because you’re supposing that smoothies need a fruit to be considered a smoothie no i never said that okay but you are proposing a vacation since ketchup has fruit in it that is the root of its smoothie hood you could do a you can make a chicken smoothie out of just chicken and water and it’ll be chicken smoothie you’re saying you can make a chicken no chicken and water is called a soup no it’s not not if you blend it to proper viscosity that’s called a porridge or juice okay in korean okay yeah so soup is also a smoothie here you wanna talk about stupid real stupid my my thing is uh ketchup has nothing to do with tomatoes ketchup is tomatoes no no get into the history of china okay let’s go let’s try nicole i’m gonna transfer you back to the year 300 bce in china i think i’m at 3 000 but no so the roots of ketchup right it is a very new development in the world and i know we have to sort of take these questions at face value for what it means for us today but i want to try and like completely deconstruct your understanding of ketchup because ketchup and like you can literally see this in languages that have been affected by chinese right do you know the word for soy sauce in indonesian sauce ketchup what i mean it’s not exactly pronounced like me going ketchup as an american but like a ketchup sambal uh is like a sweet soy ketchup doesn’t sambal mean sauce a sambal is yeah it’s like a kind of like rustic chunky hot sauce of indonesia sambal davin and his sambal game yo shout out to david i mean the world of sambal is uh incredibly vast and diverse from all different regions like the balinese sambal with the lemongrass and the shallot in it holy crap that’s good really good but there’s one called ketchup sambal that is like a sweet soul i believe it’s called ketchup uh in indonesia so like ketchup literally i mean it dates back to an ancient fermented like soy and i believe fish sauce that then traveled around the world through different trading routes much much before the tomatoes ever even discovered and so that eventually led its way to like victorian england in like the 1700s and they were making ketchup out of all kinds of crap they were making mushroom ketchup they were making black walnut ketchup so there is nothing about ketchup that necessarily has to do essentially with a fruit in it ergo ketchup to me is not a smoothie what is it then ketchup is this it is a beautiful i would call it a chutney a condiment ketchup’s just a condiment it’s just it’s just a condiment to you yeah that’s all it is to you after all ketchup has done for us ketchup has given its life to me and i have given my life to it but i think calling it a smoothie is disrespectful you ever dipped your head in a milkshake is the milkshake now the condiment what is a milkshake it’s not a smoothie a milkshake is a dessert that we bastardized nicole to be economical have have anything i had ambassador i’m just trying to open your eyes a new perspective you were always trying to open minds why do we why do we feed children toasters turtles for breakfast strudel is a dessert they’re good pop-tart touch the french word for pie give breakfast girl i’m sure you’re a pop-tart boy am i right am i wrong uh no no no i am i was exclusively toaster shirtless oh i used to be pop tarts are like if you had to break it down what i would call bad a bad like yeah i’m not a big well the brown sugar ones are kind of dangerous no they’re dank but they’re like bad like it’s like yeah it’s like chips ahoy isn’t a great chocolate chip cookie but they’re dank uh i hate chips i just like the chewy ones the chewy ones are even worse if you if you’re going by they’re they have this chemical plasticine quality to them and i remember looking up like how do they keep them you know how do they keep the chewy chips ahoy chewy because they’re just sitting in a kind of like open air package and how are they shelf stable with that amount of moisture and they’ve like reverse engineered like if you use dextrose instead of sucrose and like that will interact with something to keep it chewy it’s like a marvel of science but they’re like bad cookies but i’ll just house a whole sleeve because they’re great yeah they’re so good they’re bad but delicious yeah so anyways pop tarts are bad yeah i crave them oh whereas toaster steriles are good and i don’t crave them toasted sugars are good because they’re hot are they filled with smoothie no they’re filled with jam or jelly or produce what separates a jelly content because i thought oh you think ketchup doesn’t have sugar content you take a little bit of jam it’s just offset by vinegar and it’s just well let me tell you maybe it’s the cooking process of maybe i don’t know it’s the visc it’s all about the viscosity well you’re saying that ketchup’s not as viscous as the filling inside of a toaster turtle you could fill a toasted sugar with ketchup and that would turn out because the corn there’s too much corn syrup in that filling there’s nothing i think you are not giving ketchup enough credit for how much corn syrup is in there you think the pines corporation ain’t trying to skim profits i know that there’s corn syrup in there but it’s not as much as a fruit preserve they also put pectin in there okay but what about say something like banana ketchup talking about filipino banana ketchup shout out to jufran jufran i i like the spicy one i’ve never had the spicy one it’s like it’s like quite spicy too and it’s oh god it’s delicious my brother introduced me to that when i was like 14 and i was like yummy sugar ketchup but i mean what about that would you consider that a true to form ketchup yeah or do you think it’s like a sort of like delicious aberration i mean it’s just they’re similar enough like if you put it in front of me i will dip my french fries of course and i’d be like this is ketchup yeah it satisfies all the you know wants to catch up barbecue sauce maybe well i also believe that all ketchup is barbecue sauce okay i agree with you on that the ketchup and barbecue sauce are very it’s the same this is the same they’re cousins they’re kind of one just one has some more spice more sugar some more acid maybe but it’s that’s just to catch up with the ratios played with yeah molasses yeah molasses yeah yeah anyways the point is but like you don’t need molasses for a barbecue but preferred yeah so filipino banana ketchup is it’s sweet enough and it has like you know obviously more of what people call an archetypal fruit like even though the banana to me is just like a potato and a little jacket okay bananas are more potato i don’t think bananas are fruity you think bananas are similar to potatoes well like plantains are super similar to potatoes right especially thinking about like uh josh you’re doing like eight degrees of separation to kevin bacon i know what a plateau verde is sir no but i’m saying like that’s really starchy that that bridges that is the sasquatch like between us and apes the plaza noveria is the sasquatch between bananas and potatoes i hate you but you’re right so what i’m saying is what i’m saying is the viscosity of filipino banana ketchup and the sweetness because that is viscous it is sweet and it’s got some fruit in it even though it’s kind of potato-ish that to me is a jam you think banana ketchup is a jam and i also think that ketchup is a jam heinz tomato ketchup i believe is a savory tomato i don’t know if you call it a jam maybe a confit chewer a confit chore is it’s like a french style jam that tends to have like less kind of like gelatiny pectin in it and it’s more you know um kind of just like a preserve have you ever had tomato jam before uh yes they’re typically i mean like rustic and chunky right yeah but i mean i’ve had blackberry jam and like a seedless blackberry jelly yeah you know so they’re they’re kind of different in the same way that a tomato jam and ketchup are ones just a strained tomato jam what’s tomato paste then tomato paste just a minute tomato paste is an ingredient it’s not a prepared food it is one ingredient it’s like the same as getting like membrillo or a quince paste got it okay right a quince paste i don’t think would i would consider a jam it’s it’s merely one ingredient considered quince paste a jam it’s jam like remember maybe it is no i think you’re right i think you’re right right like tampa like tamarind paste like it’s an ingredient meant to be added to things you never okay well tamarind is technically a legume i grew up eating we used to get these big blocks of tamarind with the seeds in it and then you would just eat it out of the bag and spit um like my jaw is clenching because it’s so good oh me too it’s so sour my mom’s fighting for me all the time salivating right now oh my god me too it was so good have you ever had tamarind in ketchup i don’t believe i have that sounds good it sounds really good that seems like it really makes sense but that’s why i i said ketchup also might be a chutney because you certainly had tamarind chutney before right yeah but tamarind chutney is thin tamarind johnny is name yeah it’s thinner than ketchup needs a thinner than ketchup i agree with that i agree with that [Music] hey just wanted to take a minute to tell you about a new scripted podcast i’m in alongside rhett and link called ronstat episodes one and two just dropped ronstat is a supernatural noir comedy set on the mean streets of la about a 911 dispatcher whose night job along with a self-described cradar leads him deep into side b a world filled with magic monsters and all things mythical there’s some awesome cameos from some of your favorite mythical crew members including moi so please check it out on spotify apple podcast and wherever else you get your podcasts make sure to follow so you can be one of the first to listen [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like 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that you do say that okay let’s talk about smoothies what about that what the fruit is a smoothie a smoothie is well according to uh what i’m looking at they have their roots in mediterranean eastern cultures which made pureed fruit mixtures similar to modern smoothies however it wasn’t until electric appliances like the refrigerator and blender became available to the creamy concoction became uh popular in the u.s smoothies were not invented until 1990 in saint louis obispo california which is when juice club was founded out of here that’s what i believe the modern smoothie the modern smoothie culture the way that when we say today nicole we’re to go out and get some smoothies i never you know i hate smoothies i hate smoothies you make my throat they like they give me like a throat egg well what kind of smoothies are you thinking about uh is this such a question like the raspberry razzmatazz no like i go to whole foods and i get like a smoothie i gotcha but are those frozen like like frozen because to me when i think of smoothie i’m thinking about like jamba juice uh juice stop juice it up these kinds of places there’s something called robex oh i like robux but the froyo oh no not only froyo they’ll put like i mean it’s a glorified milkshake right yeah there’s some frozen fruit but there’s like there’s sherbet in there there’s ice cream in there they have this one called like the the like peanut butter banana surprise over the jamba juice so it’s called peanut butter mood peanut butter mood it’s cow’s moon cows make peanut butter out of the water i just thought it was like a weird like linguistics thing because they had like the accent like mood you know what i mean it’s m.o apostrophe oh i think it’s like an [Laughter] no but what i’m saying is it’s like a milk it’s a it’s just a milkshake right there’s literally like ice cream in there i mean it’s frozen yogurt but it’s a milkshake it’s a milkshake right but now the definition of smoothie i feel is changing as people become simultaneously more health-conscious but also like more health unconscious in america i feel like we’re polarizing even more where the fast food restaurants are coming out with more and more monstrous things like the breakfast baconator uh which is pretty good we had it the other day it was fine i didn’t have it i watched you eating adorable that’s impressive i thought i was getting a hamburger patty but it was a sausage which is weird yeah it’s just awesome was it a square like the no wasn’t it i don’t even believe it was a square sausage i think it was just like a normal breakfast sandwich the point is i think like fast food restaurants are getting more audacious with their kind of like unhealthy very stoneriffic cuisines think about jack-in-the-boxes munchie menu right putting fried chicken and nacho cheese on a croissant whereas the healthy places like jamba juice they are doubling down on health trends jamba juice actually they uh i believe in 2018 they decided to take the word juice out of their name entirely kind of the way dunkin donuts strictly jamba now interesting and that’s because they want to get away from just selling smoothies and juice and they want to be just a full stop like health store so they can sell acai bowls so when people go there they’re thinking about their egg white frittatas and their acai bowls and not smoothies and juices let me tell you whenever i was in culinary school my school was right next to jamba juice i used to get their oatmeal every single day yeah i used to get their own meal too why was it so good it’s so good i don’t know why you’re oh good little packet of goo and nuts why was it so good i don’t know i used to get it in college oh my god like every single day it’s just this weird like flavor memory for me like i would wake up drive to link or shim uh whatever that was oh you’re at the north hollywood yeah it was north a little bit and then i would like go to jamba juice and i would get bananas and honey and then there would always be like extra nuts like in the like bistro area that i would just yoink and put some in my in my oatmeal room jamba i have a question for you good what’s a date shake oh my god a date shake date shake’s one of the most delightful things in the world i don’t know are you asking like what is it is it a smoothie or is it a ketchup or just something that’s what i’m asking josh that’s right what’s it date [ ] dude date shake is the uh uh oh man my my favorite ice cream maker uh a mercedes of casa coco uh she’s doing a date and olive oil ice cream this week and holy crap i’m so excited for that oh my gosh she like come to your door and drop it off for you no i i go to her i’d like i go to her place that sounds weird lascivious i mean like i go there and like a curbside pickup yeah yeah um sorry i just got real excited about that but no date shake uh dates pretty much blended with vanilla ice cream and milk i don’t think you consider that a smoothie i believe the dates albeit a fruit it’s like a strawberry milkshake it’s still a milkshake not a smoothie i believe a smoothie the definition of smoothies are changing this is what i was getting at with the jamba juice thing all these smoothie chains started in the 90s uh the biggest ones jamba started in 1990 i think robex is 96. uh you know juice it up was like 95. all these places started in the 90s when we had these like weird ideas about health i know we have weird ideas about health right now but we’re coming out of the era where people were like eating a grapefruit for breakfast and sucking down cottage cheese like they were go-gurts you know and so uh this whole kind of like post aerobics let’s turn this into a lifestyle smoothies drink your fruit it’s delicious but we was just throwing sorbet and ice cream in there and they were these 600 calorie bombs and now that the world is polarizing more in terms of healthy food and unhealthy food they’re like doubling down and so they’re like getting rid of i mean half their smoothies now aren’t pure fruit there’s like veggies in them there’s like a chicken i love it there’s like a beet and berries one yeah i really enjoy and there’s lower sugar in it because if i’m if i’m eating less healthy food it’s not going to be a you know an indulgent smoothie no i’m getting a breakfast baconator of course um and so i think the definition of smoothie is now changing to where if you consider ketchup to be a smoothie it doesn’t rely on the fact that a tomato is a fruit no you know what i’m saying yeah you’re strictly talking about like a viscosity and a certain type of ingredient in there but i think once you break down that fruit wall and if you agree that smoothies are not only fruit because most smoothies aren’t fruit now you go to whole foods you got a smoothie it’s not even cold anymore i know what the fruit is that i almost said the f word out loud because i’m so incensed i got a smoothie with like it was like kale and almond milk and like some like nut butter and i thought it was gonna be this nice delicious cold refreshing treat it was just like a warm blue tip it was basically a soup yeah so you’re right yeah yeah i think something’s [ ] soup sorry maggie so you’re right it’s a soup it is a soup soups and smoothies are very very similar i think they’re one in the same i mean if we if we really track does that mean ketchup is a soup now maybe oh no maybe okay if you really track if you nicole if you i initially balked i balked hard at your chicken smoothie concept i said that is obviously a soup it’s a porridge if there’s any grain in there if it’s thick it’s a porridge however if you track where smoothies are going into the future whole foods is three days away from adding a gd bone broth option to put in your kale smoothie well yeah it’s i’m telling you okay so i watch vice a lot i watch a lot of my documentaries and there’s this lady bodybuilder who makes chicken smoothies with rice and water and and she sucks them down and she loves it and like i would never do that but i would never balk at someone because her goal is to be the biggest bodybuilder in the united kingdom and i love that for her i gotta drink my chicken smoothies like you know i drink me chicken smoothies and then i bulk up before my meats she maybe she’s australian i don’t know but uh i don’t think i i think it’s just the act of putting things and blending it makes it a smoothie i guess for me i i think maybe it’s the way you consume it because i’m thinking about this chicken smoothie thing right it’s only a chicken smoothie and not a chicken soup because i’m guessing she puts it in a glass and drinks it with a straw right am i picturing it or does she chug it but she puts in a glass right she might you know what she does she she makes little baggies she weighs out the baggies she freezes it and then she adds water and she cleans it and then i think she just drank it straight out of the blender so like drinking it straight out of the blender right you probably wouldn’t do that with a soup you’re probably decanting a soup and putting into a bowl they can’t they can’t you can’t the soup for me i did cam i have a soup aerator on the tip of my blender my mouth is a soup aerator i i think i used to drink what one could consider a fish smoothie tell me this is when i i had just gotten really back into working out heavy i had gotten my hernia reconstructed yeah super super fun uh but also i had a really crazy oral surgery that was like an emergency thing because i had some nightmare dental stuff happen to where my dentist told me they’re very old school i i they have you know deep they were like ussr dentists interesting yeah yeah yeah straight up that’s kind of awesome they’re chill i really like them um they’re fun people but anyways they told me that i couldn’t chew food for a month i don’t know if that’s like true but i was so worried that i felt wired no i wasn’t wired i uh just had like a crazy amount of like bone loss in my jaw because the dentist left a metal filing several years ago just up in my jaw after a root canal are you so there was also no nerve in that tooth so i wasn’t feeling any pain meanwhile the infection from the metal filing was eating away at the bone i just got chills all over my so they thought they were gonna have to send me into straight up like jaw surgery surgery uh and then it’s a husband and wife team and then the husband just goes over and he just goes like they’re arguing in in armenian um which is great because i couldn’t hear it and then the guy just goes like no no no i’ll fix it i’ll fix it i’ll fix it and then the wife throws up her hands and she like walks away and i was like boy i hope you i hope he wins ouch so anyways point is like a giant hole in my mouth and they were growing back a bone and i had to go to the dentist every day where this is going is that i still wanted to get a bunch of protein but i couldn’t chew food so what i would do is i would steam some flaky fish like flounder and i would throw it in a blender with water and chickpeas and then i would drink it through a boba straw yeah trying to not get any food particle matter in my tooth hole yeah that’s called that’s what’s this movie i think it’s homos you made you made fish homemade i made this fish homeless okay well look at you no but no no i’m thinking about the definition of smoothie is changing so much the definition of ketchup has changed so much that i don’t think you can track either one on any sort of parallel plane with each other but if we could but if we could but if we could what would we do smoothie is not ingredient dependent we’ve just we’ve decided that right foods but bone broth and smoothies you can get exclusively vegetable smoothies chicken smoothie oh yes you can ketchup is not ingredient dependent there’s banana ketchup you know there’s uh tomato ketchup there’s sugar-free ketchup out there yeah there’s mushroom ketchup fish ketchup all that neither ingredient dependent so it must be process dependent or consumption dependent okay so if you think about the process of a smoothie smoothie it doesn’t necessarily have to be raw because i think you know that’s what a lot of people would say ketchup is cooked smoothies are raw but that said if you were to smoothie as a soup you think a cook smoothie is a super but for the most part but not all soups are cooked based on the like a constructionist yes yes yes yes yes yes yes so but if you were to say i don’t know cook blueberries into a jam and then add that to a smoothie as a main ingredient you know with ice with you know a little bit of nut butter or whatever do you think that wouldn’t be a smoothie i think it still would be a smoothie okay so also think about the high heat that peanut butter is processed at in order for it i think it’s something that people don’t realize they think of things as raw or cooked and don’t understand the process that like all milk is heated before you know it goes out it’s technically that stuff’s all cooked there’s been a lot of heat added to it correct but then if you look at the consumption based idea anything that is reasonably thick i would say somewhere near a chowder consistency that you put in a glass and could possibly drink with a straw because there can’t be chunks right it’s got to be smooth to be a smoothie obviously it’s called a smoothie but really if you could drink it through a boba straw and it’s reasonably thick why you gotta do boba straw why don’t i just regular pumpkin trousers is the best way to get a lot of smoothie in you i love drinking out of boba straws but i like you know what i like to actually take three little red straws you know little stir straws and then like things three and i just like a little hummingbird at a feeder okay so i think we’ve broken this down to a good place where we have three possible answers three routes ingredient dependent is not the case right yes they don’t either have to have fruit um process dependent i don’t believe can be the case either because you can feasibly have cooked things in a smoothie ketchup is cooked uh i think this all comes down to the consumption dependent variable of ketchup hood in smoothie hood if you are and again this isn’t going off of like popularization like i know people don’t go to a ketchup bar and get a 32-ounce thing of ketchup in a cup and sip it they don’t but i’m saying they could yeah possibly you know there’s a lot of salt in there but you could drop that salt levels it’d still be a reasonable ketchup and you could drink it with a straw so i think at this point this question is so deranged that we must get to an equally deranged answer which is if you take ketchup that is served cold and you put that in a glass with a straw if you have any sort of reasonable smoothie like consumption of it then it is a smoothie thank you so much i agree with you holy crap you just won huh i win we haven’t done that in a long 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passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles [Music] all right nicole i’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions [Music] what were you doing what were you i feel like you were opinions i like i don’t have any sort of internal time i like casa hey opinions you’re so fine you’re so fun you blow my mind opinions like casseroles all right first up we got george haskell oreos don’t belong in cake too crunchy he’s saying on or in cake too crunchy nicole you’re dead man i’m sorry you just make me laugh so much sometimes what what’s the event oreos don’t belong on or in cake too crunchy be quiet no no i believe that oreos can be obstructive when they’re crunchy that’s why they need to be softened i want a nice softened noise you put it in a steam bath i like when the oreos are nice and soft like in my ice cream i like them when they’re nice and soft yeah i agree with that i don’t put i don’t like putting fresh oreos as a topping on ice cream which is why a mcflurry works when you let it sit you gotta let it mcflurry sit for like at least 30 minutes so the ice cream can hydrate the oreo a little bit one time i bought a mcflurry [Laughter] uh littering’s not cool okay i was like 11. and then she’s like why didn’t you i said you said i didn’t need to eat it anymore so i threw it away what was going through 11 year old nicole’s head when you did that horrible i was a horrible child you’re just a bad kid that was actually well it’s i don’t know we’ll talk about that later okay curly underscore cap says beef isn’t even that good lamb is a superior red meat and chicken is more versatile uh this is an interesting opinion preach yeah well lamb sometimes gives me a tummy ache that’s that’s on you not the lamb gets stronger how much core do you do that’s nothing to do with my question gi issue no no strengthen the muscles around the gastrointestinal tract i’m not gonna touch your midsection i don’t know i love beef i think beef tastes good i think beef is very versatile yeah beef’s great lamb’s better i fully believe and i think people say that lamb has a stronger flavor it does i don’t think so i think beef beef has a stronger flavor in my opinion we are just more used to it we just eat more beef maybe but if you really think about i mean think about the beefiness of a beef stew versus that same uh the lambiness of a lamb stew yeah i feel like beef stew is beefier than lamb stew is lambie well no i feel like lamb has a more mild dulce flavor i get you get the gaminess you get the grassiness there there can be that a little bit of blue cheese funk but to me like beef i don’t know i’ve just gotten sick of beefiness i think i’m just over it i’ve had some like um stewed like i i love beer yeah biryani it’s one of my favorites i mean i i prefer goat or birya de borrego with lamb or mutton um is really incredible also i got a lot of people criticizing me for saying that borrego’s lamb and people like no it’s mutton the definition of lamb and mutton legally is very tenuous and it’s different country to country lamb is just youthful mutton lamb is youthful mutton and in america it’s any uh mutton that is slaughtered before six months however like most pigs are slaughtered even like before that like we just raise animals so fast in america uh and so like what one person considers a lamb in one country could be mutton in another but america has this huge anti-mutton bias and it has to do with food that was served during world war two they used to get like canned mutton the us and british troops oh wow okay and so people came back and they were like screw that interesting and they’re like what do you call it lamb they’re like oh look at the baby version of it sure sure point is i’ve had some like birya de reis that’s just like way too beefy and you can’t experience the chilies and the other ingredients all you’re getting is drowned in beef flavor interesting and i don’t know we were eating those lamb chops the other day um lamb chops right now are my current favorite meat man nice just a nice little lollipop ripping it off oh yeah i’m on a big lamb kick so i agree and i love chicken the chicken thigh is undefeated i like chicken too uh at sea or a wire that’s a toughie a glass of milk is not complete without ice i also believe this no i am not i am i am an ice milker no you’re not i sure am i drink my milk on ice i do if you see me drinking milk not on ice in the kitchen it’s because we don’t have any ice in the kitchen i’m judging we only have the giant 7-eleven bags in the kitchen i don’t feel like chopping like hacking off a piece of ice why milk is the best when it’s ice cold also a little bit of water off the ice like a glass of whiskey opens up the milk no it doesn’t it does not open up the milk it waters down the milk i like to drink milk shout out to the carton i’m not gonna lie to you well hello my name is nicole and i drink milk straight out of the car what’s the most satisfying carton to drink up for you lactate oh yeah that makes sense but do you get the uh like the cardboard box yeah and you gotta get the card with the nipple on it no like does it have like that you know the screw-off no not like a baby bottle nipple i mean like the screw-off cap like you’re not like because like i remember drinking the cartons uh in elementary school uh-huh that like you have to it’s just cardboard and you kind of peel it the screw off top and then i just go glug glug if you did not open your chocolate milk properly like at elementary school lunch and you got the frayed cardboard that would just get wet as you tried to like drink it that was a day ruiner no you know how i would open my milks i would open them like a like a square not in a triangle i would square it off and then i would just put my straw in because they would give a strawberry oh see i don’t i don’t like straws i love straws i like to guzzle i love drinking stuff out of straws i was like if you drink full fat milk i don’t drink full fat milk what do you what are you drinking like one percent well you can’t afford water down one percent if you’re drinking full fat milk you can afford to water it down but it just turns into one percent no no no i just i don’t like full fat milk i mean i love full fat milk but like i can’t eat full fat milk yeah it’s too much it’s too much sometimes just an ice cold glass of milk on a burning hot day i don’t know about that but it’s nice with it makes you strong wykman95 said egg whites with cinnamon and maple syrup smiley face okay hand why i can’t i can’t why do you do this uh maybe if you added some almond flour it would be like you know a little little sweet quiche this sounds like it i’m the one who’s defended um sugar sugar eggs but once you take the yolk out because the yolk to me is what binds it to a little bit of the custard family once you take the yolk out okay okay if you if you whip these egg whites with the cinnamon and maple yes you have a murray you have a meringue that’s sweet that’s the same ingredient maple syrup yeah that would kill the meringue yeah this this to me sounds like a uh a bodybuilding um you know very like hashtag clean eating type of thing that someone like no wonder i don’t like it because like i mean i do the same thing sometimes with like a egg protein powder nut butter and yogurt and then i just grill that off like a pancake and it like looks like a pancake it chews like sweetened shoe leather ew uh it’s not great but like you know if i’m really on a kick where i’m trying to like lift real big and get real big and get 60 grams of protein at 11 at night i’ll do that that to me is what this sounds like a little bit which i respect i respect that we all have different needs for our diet and our eating do you if that’s what you enjoy the thought of it though smelling those egg whites and the maple sounds horrible especially because i hate maple syrup on eggs like in a denny’s breakfast not diggity down no in like maybe 10 years jeez i don’t i don’t i don’t need it you know my problem is is going to denny’s and ihop was always great after a night of drinking but also if i’m drinking then i’m also eating late night munchies at two in the morning so i wake up full so my like hangover routine uh which like you know may or may not have gotten into this weekend a little bit um is to go to whole foods and get the biggest green juice i can get in like 30 ounces of black coffee and then a kombucha and i just flopped just flush that makes sense get the bat out get the bat out here we go atlini chocolate chip cookies are better without the chocolate chips i as i would say yes however i want like chocolate chips on the side for dipping no i’m not the chocolate wafers you know you know the the the coins the chocolate yeah it’s not the gills not the kelp yeah points you know what i’m talking about i think they’re called wafers yeah they’re called wafers yeah i love those i mean yeah in a chocolate chip cookie i don’t like chocolate chips and chocolate no chips are the worst application of chocolate in a cute i agree yeah chocolate i mean even like chocolate chunks anything that’s squared off something gives you a little bit more surface area is what i want um but that said i want i want bites of a chocolate chip cookie where there is no chocolate sure yeah i think there needs to be an a uh a dissipation of chocolate agreed it’s like how i want bites of a sandwich where there is no pickle oh well i want one out of every three bites of a sandwich to not have pickle in it because then that’s the pickle in the sandwiches the pickle on the side pickles in the sandwich pickles in the sandwich sometimes i don’t even like pickles in a sandwich oh i get extra pickles and all of my sandwiches because to me the pickle is there as a palette cleanser right it’s like the intermezzo sorbet or the ginger between sushi the pickles here is a palate cleanser it’s to reset to make you appreciate the sandwich more well yeah i think it depends on the sandwich like on a burger i need pickles no see i want there to be one in every three bites on a burger where it’s just beef and cheese and condiment and then you get that pickle bite refresher pow your palate’s reset you’re back on top i hate tomato in my burgers oh really i hate it it doesn’t add anything for me it takes away i might actually come to think of it i used to put it on i love like a tomato based product but if i’m putting tomato and burger at home i’m like roasting the tomatoes really heavily yeah because there’s just too much water content so much water and like it doesn’t add anything for me like i try to get my burgers without tomato but i’ll add like onion and pickle and lettuce but i don’t like tomatoes yeah to me like the tomato should be the star of a show in a sandwich like a tomato sandwich oh like a blt i mean a blt is a tomato sandwich to me it is you need that big beautiful gorgeous tomato i need some beef steak oh so good salt and pepper the tomatoes yeah once once tomato season it’s coming up we’re coming up we’re hurtling towards tomato season yeah yeah we can make beans dude big old beef steaks oh my god okay amaya marie says wife just introduced me to artichokes and thousand island sauce incredibles yeah this pretty much sounds like have you ever been to an italian restaurant and they may give you artichokes and then you dip it in the sauce same thing yeah no it’s good it’s a good discovery i’m happy for you i’m happy for you i feel like i just still prefer that like lemon garlic aioli i like that was an island with it though which i guess is just straight mayonnaise lemongrass that’s just yeah i think this is delicious and it makes total sense to me and i’m really glad you found out no matter what artichokes will never be worth the effort though oh we love artichokes in my house really we make you guys like steam them whole or you yeah yeah we cook them and then you like eat the leaves you just like stuck on the leaves yeah but we cook the ever living crap out of them they are like dark just that that brownish green but it’s delicious so i don’t mind it at tina underscore felina hot dog buns just the bun with a drizzle of caramel sauce is a great snack yes i grew up eating syrup sandwiches i’d put just mixed sugar and butter put that in a sandwich i would take duncan hines frosting and i would put that on white bread and eat it as a cake american store-bought bread is so sugary that it should legally have to be classified as a yeast cake which in ireland they actually did that to subway so yeah what you’re eating is just called a yeast cake with a little bit of caramel and that’s delicious yeah i like mine with nutella my background with nutella so yeah i go uh yeah microwave that hot dog bun for about four seconds before just to soften it and you’re in flavortown steven schaefer says i love a little honey on my ramen my wife thinks i’m gross i’m sorry your wife thinks you’re gross the honey doesn’t really deter me that much yeah good luck on your marriage though yeah i’m sorry uh are they talking about instant ramen you think uh in my mind i immediately went to tonkotsu ramen too honey in that sense yeah that sounds nice a little a little weird i’m not gonna lie a little weird but imagine someone be like a honey garlic bomb you know how like they make a little flavor little flavor that makes a little bit of sense uh this is at latifah madhu hot cheetos are good dipped in nutella no they’re not this is one of those things i’ve done it where you’ve done it yeah why have you done it because i went because we had a high school delicacy i told you about hot cheeto cheese hot cheetos and cream cheese is the greatest combination we were like we were like let’s try and tell and it was like bad uh i i do not get down with citric acid and chocolate like i don’t even like chocolate covered strawberries um yeah i think we need a new uh sexy time fruit you know like just edible arrangements you know like you want to be like real man get a little ball of candle rebranding sexy fruit guys it’s cantaloupe it’s a ball of cantaloupe but then it’s set inside a squiggle of honeydew so it almost looks like a flower if you’ve never seen a flower no it looks like a flower like an animated flower yeah like a cartoon flower but lativa i mean if you enjoy it that’s the only thing that matters here’s the thing food it’s all about friendship and family and smoothies are about what you can suck through a straw and that nicole is the real opinion casserole was i surprised because i didn’t watch why’d you go quiet because why would i respond to that and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzoda with the hashtag opinioncasserole and for more mythical catching check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical pensions we’ll see you next time in the mythical caption and the math [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles tip of approaching vehicles if approaching vehicles