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what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host joshua and i’m your host sorry and i’m your host and i’m your host nicole handy zade i had a frog in my throat i’m sorry auspicious start to the podcast nicole forgot her own name let me just eat my water and nicole i’m glad you brought that up uh it’s been a while what it’s been a while it’s been a while since we’ve had just a completely insane kind of you know josh rant about a subject that no one cares about and i thought we’d bring it back okay i thought we’d bring it back we did there’s no such thing as a soup which is something i stand by and people have called me out on that because i’ve i’ve posted pictures of myself making a soup and people have been like oh josh i thought soups didn’t exist i’m like look i’m trying to communicate what the wet food is that i’m putting in my body and i understand that all you sheeple out there [Laughter] that’s the portmanteau of sheep and people yes yes people they’re sheep people they follow why don’t we say uh peep what do you mean why don’t we say instead of oh like a people sheep because peeps i believe are copyrighted by uh whatever corporation makes peeps instead of wake up she pulled wake up people pick up pizza because then you sound like a substitute teacher trying to sound cool in front of like an eighth grade class and i’m like what up peeps i’m mr jones you can call me jerry that’s the name of the cowboys owner anyways what i’m saying is nicole i don’t believe beverages exist i don’t think there are any meaningful distinctions between drinks and food i think the category of food and drink is completely meaningless everything is merely uh consumables okay i disagree why okay because okay whenever you go okay this is a great example go ahead when you are hosting a party okay and you’re renting a space and these they provide you food and drink the food has a set price the drink does not but you’re specifically talking about alcohol right well yeah that’s a big kind of drink okay no no but alcohol is typically found in drink form that is true yeah alcohol can also be found in non-drink form alcohol is a drug oh my god you know about alcohol of course i know i know about so many things speaking of port monto’s palcohol is short for powdered alcohol and it was legal for all of like a minute yeah i remember there were like videos of people making drink uh consumption oh what are they doing to people what are they doing are they drinking alcohol they can’t it’s a powder they were consuming it they were consumed that’s what i’m saying everything’s consumable so alcohol is powdered alcohol that you what was their market for it because i remember reading their sort of internal marketing documents do you not like the taste of alcohol here is palcohol so the way that they tried to market it was that they were like oh it’s uh it’s very portable for people to carry so if you’re going to like an outdoor concert then you can bring your palcohol and then get whatever beverage you want and just add a little bit of palcohol so silly it was like there was like they were marketing like emergency or those little like gatorade powder you know packets that they have but then someone was like hey don’t you think like a 15 year old is gonna get their hands on this consume a whole thing and die yeah yeah they’re like no this is for responsible adults and like don’t you think teens are gonna put this in their nose like no that can never happen without alcohol i don’t think it was legal it was legal long enough for it to happen i remember there were so many tie-ups for it interesting what i’m saying is alcohol is mostly consumed in drink format but you have things like alcohol but not only that like there are ways to eat alcohol you got your vodka soaked gummy bears okay you know i’ve let beef jerky sit in malt liquor eat that what have you done college was weird for me yeah it sounds like it uh but no did you reserve the liquid and then do like uh you know how they like make like beef fat washed whiskey yeah did you do beef jerky washed yeah we drank it because it wasn’t why are you surprised by this i don’t know i mean you’d never con you never see timmy’s me josher i know the life i used to live yeah but that’s wild but i’m saying when you’re saying food and drink like that giving a separate cost for the food and drink it’s say like a wedding or something that means alcohol yeah right that’s what the surcharge is but they’re not charging extra for like i mean they’ll feel like iced tea cranberry juice so charge extra but it’s not at that premium but i think there are too many things in that category that for instance right i often when i eat breakfast i typically consume the same thing it’s some combination of greek yogurt fruit and protein powder with 65 grams of protein at least some say that your body can only absorb 30 grams of protein per hour or something and then the rest of it it kind of just gums up your digestive tract given my experience that seems to be true as well um however i generally will either turn that into a smoothie which many would consider a drink or i will turn it into a yogurt bowl yes i was going to ask you do you drink yogurt well i mean think about different yogurt drinks do you drink or eat yogurt do you drink or eat pudding because pudding is the uh what’s that thing that you mix with cornstarch and water what not a slurry what’s what’s that non-newtonian fluid the non-newtonian fluid i don’t know you can’t just yell nothing like goop drop sling oh black oh okay okay a case in point case in point case in point animals animals animals portmanteau of danon and animals this is just a portmanteau i like how they thought people cared enough about the name dan and yogurt to care that it was called animals one time i wanted to make a danimal banana and call it banana moles so they take the animals came out with drinkable yogurt yes a while ago for for kids it was in a little crush container remember crush but like all they’ve done is they i mean to thin out yogurt enough to drink it especially a thin yogurt that’s not greek or it’s not strained but yeah like dairy is melting yogurt bulgarian mountain yogurt’s drinkable yeah is that a drink or a food animals drinkable crushable yogurts is that a drink or a food that’s what i’m saying i don’t know there’s no point in differentiating but i want to why because uh you put i don’t know something in my mind is telling me that like this cup of water in front of my face right now is not food i would maybe argue that water no water’s still a food uh water still consumable i was going to say i could maybe make a case that water is the only true drink so cons so so you think anything that enters your mouth hole and you swallow is considered consumable solely a consumable which i think we could even colloquialize to say food i think water is a food not a beverage what is a beverage nothing is a beverage nothing is a beverage nothing’s bad nothing is a soup what nothing is a soup it’s all just things what do we do here it’s all it’s to create so what is the point of food right there i know a fair amount of people in athletic spaces who like don’t care anything about food culture right they don’t get joy out of food they’re like food is strictly fuel for my body to accomplish a task that need uh and they’ll like you know put some mustard on white rice shout out to nick scarvellis pro shop putter and best friend because that’s what he does mustard but no i i understand that relationship to food for certain people however the point of food throughout like all of history has been to um have some sort of cultural connection to gamify life enough to being joyful right think about the consumption of hot peppers but it doesn’t make any sense it causes you physical pain it is literally a defense mechanism from a plant to cause you pain to not want to consume it and we through evolutionary biology and also just you know development of culture and this idea that things should be fun and exciting we’ve been like no we’re going to lean into this pain and like turn this into a and almost a problem to be solved you know here’s a plant that doesn’t want us to eat it but we’re going to figure out how to turn it into some balls how did you know turn that into chili paste and all this stuff so so like the point of consuming anything has always been one nutrition but then two uh rooting yourself to a shared culture with a group of people you know creating a sense of identity and then three just kind of joy evolutionarily we we grew to want to laugh right someone uh i don’t have the receipts on this there’s a cultural anthropologist who coined the term uh the problem-solving gene and said that laughter was actually originally sort of developed as a sort of like mechanism to get you to want to solve problems like you see a problem you solve it and you’re like look at that thing i did it and so that is the point of food to me throughout like all of cultural in human history and so i don’t think we ever need to develop you know uh any sort of differentiation between beverage and food i think that’s just completely false it is all things that we have developed over thousands of years to put in our mouths for joy for culture for comfort and for nutrition case in point yogurt think about duke i was just about to say do do i mean what is duke is do a drink or a food it’s a drink but i mean duke is a as a fermented yogurt drink with sparkling water sometimes has mint in it by the way oh i love when there’s a dried mint do i literally had an argument with like five people i’m like dude sucks like dude i’m like dude it’s garbage it’s really good i mean it’s it’s kind of like a yogurty got a little bit of like a cheesy kefir flavored it has a very specific taste some people love it some people hate it i don’t really care for it personally i think maybe an argument for that drinks do exist is that they are complementary to food and the sense that like you you drink a cola with a burger and they’re almost meant to offset each other yeah like a milkshake and a burger is it milkshake of food well no i mean of course i mean think well what about a frosty frosty a frog okay so think about it cream is food but then at what point does ice cream melt enough to become a drinkable drink that’s a great question right does it exist in the state of food at one moment and then the next after melts because a milkshake you would consider a drink right you go to in and out you’re through a straw uh-huh but then how what percent of difference in morphology is there between an in-n-out milkshake and a wendy’s frosty which does not come with a straw nicole it comes with a spoon it does yeah no i’ve only had one frosty before in my life you had one frosting yeah you gave it to me and i ate like 45 percent yeah what do you mean i don’t do fun things like you frosty’s yeah i mean well is eating something with a spoon make it no longer a liquid well no no no we’re not talking about liquid we’re talking about drink oh well you can spoon coffee into your mouth you can but like people don’t yeah yeah who’s spoon in coffee you spoon coffee okay why mixing up my coffee and i take a spoon and that’s the taster spoon that’s different no it’s not that’s the taste because that’s still it’s that’s the preliminary this it still is performing the function of slurping no that is that is preliminarily tasting it to then make sure that it’s primed for you to actually drink doesn’t have you ever consumed a whole cup of coffee with a spoon of course not of course not you taste it with a spoon right just to kind of get the taste and then you drink it out of the cup if i switch so if i switch my utensil for how i’m consuming something that changes it it certainly changes what the intent was behind the thing whether to drink or to eat one drinks with a straw one eats with a spoon but it’s meaningless so with a stew i eat i eat all of the the solid parts first of the stew with a spoon and then i use my mouth to tip the bowl to drink up this the recipe you’re telling me that’s a beverage now i’m asking you no beverages don’t exist and soups don’t exist it’s all just food that you put in your it’s all consumables that you put in your body for nutrition for comfort for culture for joy so you mean to tell me that soda is in the same bracket as a hamburger correct and what soda is in the same way because they’re both giving you nutrition and comfort and joy and culture but they’re not but they are how are they because i mean literally even think about diet soda the reason i said that water soda oh god i love it give me that diet dr dp but either way you’re putting some sort of like minerals in your body at the very least so even water right water doesn’t have any nutritional values typically zeros across the board however you know some may have a little bit of sodium in it but water is generally giving you some sort of mineral content right your body not only does it need the the macronutrients right the protein the carbs the fat it also needs you know all the micronutrients and the vitamins and the minerals and you are getting that from water so everything you are just consuming is just something to keep you alive in some way right yeah and so it’s all the same it’s all the same kind of same i can’t i can’t i can’t wrap my head around these being the same thing they’re in two different categories think about the nutritional content between uh a very thin soup like say even a broth okay right so if you look at i wish we had oh yeah i have a diet red bull can right here all right so the only thing we have in this diet red bull can is zeroes across the board except for 105 milligrams of sodium right so essentially i mean this isn’t even filled with sugar right this is just literally a salty liquid yes right what separates that this is a guarana flavored salty liquid what separates this from a thin vegetable broth and this has minerals and vitamins in it too caffeine you can have a naturally caffeinated soup where i don’t know you put like ginseng ginseng soup is a natural form of caffeine you often put ginseng in a korean uh chicken soup okay what is the difference between so i’m saying there’s there’s a world in which there’s no nutritional difference between a thin ginseng laden korean chicken broth and a can of diet red bull so then what makes one a drink and one of food the way that it’s presented but if you put that dancing chicken broth inside of but i’m saying the intent doesn’t matter i consume as my needs you can have bone broth in a bowl or you can have bone broth in a in a cup doesn’t matter so is what but is one of beverages one of food no they’re the same they’re the same they’re indistinguishable no that’s all i’m saying that’s all i’m there’s no difference but and i think right now nicole we’re in a changing world environment i hate this we’re in a changing world environment people’s needs are changing and the the the way that people sell to those needs are changing because like who before would have even talked about putting bone broth in a cup until creation with a k juicery or whatever have you been to a creation with a k of course that place is weird owned by a persian lady oh really yeah the boss i drank something there it was like really delicious it cost me like 12 bucks very expensive very delicious i did like a kickboxing class in brentwood a while ago yeah and then went to creation immediately afterwards and i just really wanted to be on brand there was actually a really good bone broth please oh bel belcampo campos bone broth eleven dollars for brother makes belle eight ounces i don’t even care i will pay that much because it makes me feel so good and you’re and you’re drinking it right you are probably like walking around with you’re walking around like the third street promenade drinking your bone broth you’re like oh my god my skin is going to glow because of all the collagen here and did you use protein that’s not why i drink it it honestly just tastes really good but you’re drinking you’re drinking a soup our food culture has changed so much to the point where it’s normal to put soup in a coffee cup i like that world i don’t i’m not saying i dislike it i think it’s interesting also you know who was doing that for for years before any health food store started doing it nfl teams nice so if you uh you know normally they have the gatorade coolers and everything um chicken broth in there dude they did oh they didn’t when it’s cold outside it’s super cold outside they’ll have uh like cocoa they’ll have coffee and they would have freaking chicken broth in heated things you’d see players just like drinking one of the little plastic gatorade cups full of chicken broth shuddering on the sidelining green bay in the frozen tundra yeah that’s really similar to me walking on thursday promenade with mine it’s super similar [Music] don’t have enough josh in your life well you can hear yours truly in episode 4 of ronstat a scripted podcast from q code wood elf in mythical right now i don’t want to give too much away but i’m really good please check out ronstat on spotify apple podcast and wherever else you get your podcasts and make sure to follow so you don’t miss an episode and also let me know when you spot me [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my 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use code hotdog to get one pack of free bacon in every box for the life of your membership plus ten dollars off your first order that’s butcherbox.com hotdog and use code dog to claim this deal but no all these health food places are the ones that got me kind of thinking about this question because uh this stuff keeps me up at night like this is what i think about when i lay my head down right it’s like 11 15 and i’m like oh my god i’m so tired i need to go to bed and then you lay in bed and you’re just like beverages don’t exist and then for the next two hours you’re just kind of resting around but josh what about mastication what about people we can’t talk about mastication what about peristalsis what about peristalsis what do you mean it just drinks just go into your body you don’t have to do anything actually there is something to that there is tell them about process of mastication parasites okay so i have a list mastication is the art or process of chewing the act of processing or grinding shredding crushing or needing to a pulp mastication is step one of the digestive process i don’t want to read this uh yeah basically it’s just it’s just the move of your mouth masticating chewing things into a pulp so your body can consume it goes down the esophagus and then peristalsis happens which is a progressive wave of contraction relaxation a tubular muscle system especially the alimentary canal elementary candle elementary candle is that good english is my favorite c-a-n-a-l canal the word is canal what are you talking about elementary canal elementary canal this is santa see anal okay elementary canal by which the contents are forced through the system what about that josh uh this is actually important and it’s important evolutionarily as well what about chime you know about chime what is chime that’s what the food is turned into can you read i don’t do you think i went to medical school i don’t know why do you expect me to say elementary candle probably i can barely speak english on a good day okay so no like uh chewing and swallowing is what you’re talking about peristalsis when you swallow food and it there’s a muscular movement that moves it down your esophagus and that’s something we obviously developed you know over time there’s a reason that humans aren’t exclusively drinking liquid diet yeah and uh there’s a reason weird tech bros think that you can just drink soylent and get all the nutrition satisfaction you need which to me completely cuts out the fact that humans have used food as entertainment for thousands upon thousands of years i read this gar what i love doing most in this world is picking on student journalists just trying their best no i don’t i worked for a college newspaper and i had nothing but a poor view of it um but anyway someone uh wrote they kind of wrote like a weird takedown piece on babish um and it was all about how like these days and you know they’re started with the phrase these days so you’re like oh this is automatically garbage like these days food is about entertainment whereas food used to be about this like food has always been about entertainment every royal court has had chefs creating stupid pastries i mean we have we would not need special holiday dishes right there’s i mean holiday dishes dating back thousands upon thousands of years we wouldn’t have those if food was all about sustenance and whatever it’s always been about fun and entertainment throughout history yeah did they talk about how there’s like food waste and entertainment and stuff yeah which is like jesus on the level like of course we waste food when we cook a show what about uh whatever they’re like oh like because of you know the the what is it called the environment and stuff like people shouldn’t do it for entertainment and stuff talk about that yeah no they don’t so i understand what to me is insane because the amount of food waste that comes from the entire entertainment industry does not equal the amount of food waste that comes from uh the wind buffet yeah the grocery store 40 of all food in american homes is thrown away totally creating stuff for content like that is not i understand how it could be triggering to see it on camera occasionally you know but the fact is that is doing nothing in the grand scheme of things it’s corporate and it’s industrial but anyways what i was talking about is that the process of chewing and swallowing they’re if you consume 200 calories worth of of consumptibles as i’m calling them now via drinking so like not chewing not masticating not starting a digestive process you will be hungrier than 200 calories or something that you’ve chewed uh this is something that’s been studied by dietitians and stuff like that um because there is something and there’s no energy of your mouth chewing no there’s almost no biological reason for it there’s almost no scientific reason for why you should feel that way is it the way that we absorb it’s through absorption i mean it could be it could be that that um god well there’s something called the pyloric valve yeah it’s probably the the absorption of liquid is faster instead of solids maybe i don’t know but i think what a lot of it is is uh psychosomatic interest in the sense that we enjoy chewing and swallowing yes right it’s something that feels biting into something is more satisfying if you’re hungry yeah right and then we gotta get into the fact that hunger and thirst are two different sensations totally two oh my god yes because i said you can quench your thirst for the food you can quench this yeah i’ve done that before and i hate it you ever like are you ever like really thirsty and just like let me just have this instead let me just eat a whole cucumber which is just water which is just water cucumbers watermelon’s like 93 water cucumbers are beverage watermelon’s beverage it is but no i am fascinated by by that fact that biologically you shouldn’t feel any difference but just the process that you want to bite into something how many times have you said the phrase like i’m hungry and then you realize it’s not anything to do with your stomach being empty it’s just you want to eat something right we confuse the two things because eating is fun yes it is yeah but i mean so is you know drinking consuming anything these two things we’re not solely doing it on our biological needs we’re also doing it just you know to make life worth living and to provide color and context so all these things we’re just consuming for life for culture for entertainment and for sustenance at the end of the day there is absolutely no difference cool but no what actually got me thinking about a lot of this is the modern health food movement because at some point nicole nicole at some point smoothies they split you ever see like an evolutionary diagram of like a hamster or something i’ve seen evolutionary diagrams yes there’ll be like two creatures that’ll be like here was a coelacanth or whatever and then it’ll split and it’s like and then half the lizard part of that turned into an alligator and then somehow the other happened dinosaurs or chickens or chickens or diets yeah but like some ended up alligators and some ended up ostriches that happened uh at some point in the last 10 years with smoothies okay is smoothie a beverage or food well this is what i’m getting at what is it smoothies have polarized now where smoothies are dead we’ve talked about this before smoothies are pretty much dead right the the swinging 90s of the jamba juice and the robex yeah the the smoothies we knew from the past because now we have rebranded they have they have split like the coelacanth did into an ostrich and an alligator i don’t even know what it is i have no idea but anyways what i’m saying is smoothies have now split into either juices or bowls you know what i mean i hate smoothie bowls i hate smoothie but what the hell is a smoothie bowl it’s it’s sherbet it’s sherbet it’s sherbet in a bowl i’m not tasting sugar but a smoothie bowl is a food whereas a smoothie is a drink in what people would say and what the masses would say yeah but the texture’s a little bit different don’t you think and then it’s almost like the resultant runoff liquid ended up in the juice bar where they’re serving liquid juices so it’s like our tastes have changed to want simultaneously more solid food and then more liquidy drinks it’s putting solid food on top of the semi-solid foods yeah you’re talking about the toppings on an acai bowl yes that’s exactly what i’m talking about also the crazy thing about acai is acai only grows in i believe one region in brazil and acai is incredibly difficult near impossible to transport fresh and so that’s why everything we get with acai in it is incredibly sweet because you know it’s incredibly sweet and sour because it’s preserved and also frozen and shipped so even in like the largest brazilian cities they’re eating like quote-unquote inauthentic you know acai because it’s really only one regional thing but i think it’s fascinating how that’s like taking over la i don’t care for acai bowls would you do you like sorry burps it’s okay but do you like any smoothie bowls like are you into that movement i don’t like smoothies i love juices though weird what is it about so is it because you’re treating juices as a drink and smoothie as a food no i treat juices as a food too you do yeah juices like that’ll be your breakfast yeah some morning juice yeah interesting yeah and then uh i don’t know i think smoothies make my throat hurt just the cold yeah the cold makes i like cough a lot like i have an issue where like i laugh when i laugh a lot on the podcast i’m like coughing for like 15 minutes afterwards like really hard i think it’s just my vocal cords are just very scentsy do you you should eat a tea no you should eat a tea what about those what about those cubes of coffee those biohackers you know with the kids what what are the bio hackers with cubes you’ve never seen the coffee cubes that the fire hackers made google it did your laptop working yeah i never know miraculously your laptop is alive yeah this is like the hanukkah miracle of laptops right now coffee cubes founded in they found it in burbank wait no no what what’s the coffee just tell me about oh is it a cheese it’s chewable coffee so what happens when you take something that’s known as a liquid and then you solidify it and then it turns into a beverage in your mouth what do you do vodka gummy bears what are you doing they taste like poison you think you know what a vodka soaked gummy bear maggie’s nodding along you think you’re like oh vodka you know i’ve had alcohol flavored desserts gummy bears are really nice but then you chew it and then you’re just chewing and squirting little lemon-scented vodka directly at your tonsils and you want to throw up i love it oh my god you eat vodka so gummy bears have you ever had the chocolates that have a shot of alcohol in them yes those are good oh my god those are good don’t drink wait speaking of edible alcohol do you do you partake in edible edible not alcohol but like jello shots right uh who does it do you enjoy jello shots what is jello jello is you take a beverage and then you add a little bit of dead animal bones to it and becomes a food see how stupid all this sounds yeah idiots i guess i guess this is i guess what you’re trying i guess what happened is it’s all food it’s all food and i hate that it’s all food there’s no such thing as a drink only drink is water i will concede to the fact that the only drink is water only because i do not drink water so i have never consumed a beverage yesterday i grabbed a plain water bottle and everything everyone was like worried and then someone took it from you someone said they were like oh i assumed this wasn’t yours because it was the water [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai 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not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles [Music] all right nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casserole [Music] all right first up we got at bensalowlife alfredo pasta tastes better microwaved i know what they’re getting at what are they i don’t know what this means i know i think they’re talking about leftover alfredo pasta that is microwaved tasting better well yeah because some foods taste better the next day some do but some it it i wouldn’t say better or worse it changes it right because the alfredo sauce at that point is completely absorbed by the noodles yeah it’s thickened so like this person probably doesn’t like a very saucy pasta they like the concentrated flavor but have you ever uh reheated leftover mac and cheese and it seems like the flavor just left sometimes it’s like that cheesy that like cheddary funk is gone the cheddary fungus and i don’t know what happens it gets like absorbed by the noodles like an overheater and then vaporizes like a burning candle yeah yeah wild i totally get it it’s not my thing i like a good saucy nude i like both there’s a time and place for both types of nudes in my opinion all right marion schultz 21 says dip your cookies in applesauce so good uh what kind of cookies like a snickerdoodle dipped in applesauce sounds really good but like a double chocolate chunk chocolate chocolate cookie no one do that i think we need to reinvent the applesauce game yeah applesauce isn’t sexy it’s not sexy but it could be george let’s make sexy outfits sexy and we’ll call it sexy apples no no no we’ll call it hustlers sex sauce made with apples it’s like how people tried to rebrand my playboy dude playboy larry flint get in on her ass sexy applesauce bustler sauce sauce made from apples like people tried to rebrand yogurt like for men you know there’s like there there’s some bran i don’t think it’s called brogurt i think it’s a word that i made up uh or overnight oats there’s one just called like mush it has very like masculine branding on it is it yeah i don’t feel like it’s masculine but i think it’s actually quite gender neutral branding but that’s just my opinion fair enough fair enough but i’m saying that there’s a way to rebrand certain foods into being sex full and i think we need to make a sexful applesauce because right now it’s plain you got moths out there no sex appeal to monsters tree top what’s treating yeah my juice is flowing no no we need sexy applesauce and i think we can i think we can make it the sexiest yogurt of all time is activia no there’s a sexy french yogurt out there not musa when i said sexy french yogurt you immediately knew what i was talking about yeah but also there’s ziggy’s you ever had ziggy ziggy’s isn’t sexy siggy’s is like the responsibility yeah yeah it’s like visco girl yeah it’s like okay or like like uh like i read kinfolk magazine sexy you know it’s like i’m practical i’m the one you’re probably going to want to spend the rest of your life with that’s right but then we we as the yogurt that you’re like i don’t care what happens as long as we have tonight baby it’s because it’s in the glass bottle and has a really pretty top oh my god so funny okay i don’t know this is weird what’s go-gurt gold yogurt’s not gogurt is uh uh nah gogurt’s loose and lascivious i love girl girls be inside anyone as fast as possible as fast as you can slurp where are we at lisa lisa mig ketchup with mexican tamales is better than salsa i like ketchup on a lot of things yeah i to me the sweetness would overtake dimensional kind of tamale yeah you know true that’s very true you know but uh i’m thinking with like you know anything that has a saucy meat inside of it the ketchup to me is going to ruin that taste yeah true uh i’ve had ketchup with my mexican tamales specifically turkey and it’s really good it’s really good for it i like it i put ketchup on a lot of things yeah travis crease says bologna and peanut butter is amazing we tested that we tested various meats well we tested hot dog with peanut butter and we tested salami with peanut butter and both were pretty bad pretty bad pretty bad right yeah i think we need in the same way that we’re making sexy applesauce we need more diverse peanut-based condiments okay cool you think that’s what people want yeah but like they don’t i think about it you think they do but and then you create it and then you pitch it to the grocery stores and then no one buys it no one buys it that’s how most things happen it’s like savory popsicles it’s like a fun idea no this is people no josh you think people want these things but they don’t they say they do but then it’s in front of their faces and they say oh what what is that and then they never buy it and also in england for some reason they’re also an issue for some reason norwich where where are you at you’re at cardiff by the sea huh i’m at the white what is it called white cliffs of dover oh yeah the white cliffs of dover at glastonbury where are you at nicole where’s this fictional grocery store but no the way to use like think about tahini right tahini you put straight up tahini on a pita on sandwich on sabi it’s gonna be garbage yeah but that’s why you take tahini and you mix it with the water the lemon the garlic the salt and then you get a beautiful condiment that’s what people need with peanut butter peanut butter is tahini it’s a base ingredient yes you need to mix with stuff yes god dang it all right at i’m a cake ninja good for you when i was a kid i would only eat salad with strawberry jam i thought dressings were gross this is fascinating to me because there are a lot of salad dressings out there that are pretty damn close to jam that are pretty much jam you get some of those bottled raspberry vinaigrettes yeah especially the fat-free raspberry vinaigrette where they’re just spiking it with corn syrup yeah make you feel something yeah yeah that’s pretty much a jam yeah uh yeah this this doesn’t sound totally unreasonable not at all yeah i literally you mix equal parts jam and balsamic and that’s a pretty solid vinaigrette right here i mean vinaigrette using that term very loosely you know emulsification yeah yeah no this is a good this sounds pretty good yeah some dressings are kind of gross if you really think about what they are yeah dressing in general is just a gross idea it’s a gross idea yeah but i like it you have foods you’d like to make them wetter here’s a wet to food your foods yeah i mean like i don’t mind it’s like a gross thing but in life you need some gross things yeah i mean i dip all my pizza in salad dressing not even ranch i’ll dip pizza and honey mustard i don’t care oh well that sounds good jack’s grayson double05 says i like to dip dunkin donuts hash browns in the chocolate on top of the boston cream donut uh okay do you move you ever have spud nuts no but i’ve always wanted to try spud nuts i’ve i’ve wanted to try potato based desserts for a long time i also one time saw that there’s truffles made out of potato and i really want to try those too oh i’m really sad about it and there’s no potato places around here for me to try my desserts oh nicole is a potato based donut shop that sounds perfect for this person yeah that sounds like what you like potatoes you like the flavor of donuts go to spudnuts that’s right are they even still around i’ve been spending some years what is a spot they were like perfectly fine it kind of just tastes like a donut with like a little bit more kind of like chewed butter nuts near me oh yeah there’s multiples we’re taking a field trip to spudnuts really yeah let’s do it right now we’re going to make it got the podcast we’re going to spudnuts at aj’s coffee adventures nachos should be layered i don’t care what josh says about it he’s wrong aj you want layers eat a lasagna fella go get a layer cake get yourself a meal for get yourself a meal crepe don’t layer your nachos nachos should be one layer if you want more food eat two plates and nachos i made a claim that nacho when i watch people build nachos they’ll lay down chips then they’ll put cheese and toppings and then more chips and then more cheese and toppings i’m ethically against that oh interesting is how you build your nachos uh it’s a it’s a preference thing like depends on the day i’m not like married to i don’t eat too many nacho plates so i’m like not that like particular about how it’s assembled unfortunately i think that people i mean people will often get down into the distribution thing they’ll just say like you know i don’t want a layer of chips on the bottom that don’t have the toppings but for me that’s the sort of fun build your own adventure of nachos you get that plain chip and you’re like this is an opportunity chip this isn’t a plain chip there’s an opportunity for me to swipe through the rest of this plate to find the perfect bites of things that i want on these nachos i think layering it you’re creating steam you’re creating wetness you’re creating a nacho lasagna but that’s enjoyable don’t you think yeah we need to make a naturalization nachos that’s not ooh yeah we’ll make it on mythical kitchen uh can i ask you a question about nachos please do you put regular cheese or do you put like cheese sauce um i i used to be a very hard-o on cheese sauce exclusively uh but recently i i’ve softened on that i think as if you do cheese sauce the problem with that is i also love really soupy liquidy beans on nachos yeah you can’t have both have both it’ll just be a gross disaster especially i loaded up with salsa and various cremas and like i made a nacho plate once with cheese sauce and soupy beans and i think i even had like a braised meat and i was like this is soup this is soup with chip croutons yeah and so now i’ve learned if i want soupy or other ingredients i’ll i’ll use like you know like a monterey jack is just my favorite because you get such a nice texture on it meltiness there’s another style of nacho though that i i think a lot of people attribute to texas and there’s a lot of hardos in texas who believe that nachos should be individually built on each chip interesting yeah so like every everything is composed it does sound like an effort i don’t care also to me that’s a tostaritas totally i agree with you it’s like a little tostada yeah yeah yeah all right questionable downhiller says i think it’s sacrilegious but cheddar cheese on spicy ramen is good okay i think this is a i love putting cheese in my ramen but it has to be american the cheddar doesn’t melt that well well i mean but think about when they said this i was thinking about french onion soup how you get that little gratinee on top of that cheese oh that’s this person is doing the gratine of cheddar cheese on top oh interesting see i was thinking that it’s just they’re slapping down a slice they might be they might be i’m giving them the benefit of the top they’re doing a gratinee but i don’t know how you’d like broil your ramen that would melt the styrofoam yeah maybe they’re not doing that though maybe they’re not yeah but mixing again cheddar mixing in with a thin broth is tough because she’s gonna separate into proteins yeah and all that american cheese gives you that that creaminess pop a little bit of cream cheese in there a little bit of pickled jalapenos make like some jalapeno popper ramen dude bacon pickled jalapenos cream cheese a little bit of broth we got you out of the show we got you this is just make it right maggie write this down it’s just a brainstorming session give us more good opinions thanks there we go unpopular opinion from dan worley 10 30 fettuccine alfredo and chicken is the adult version of mac and cheese with nuggets in terms of basicness yeah in terms of basicness yeah that that’s one of those things that um the fudarati right like the elites the elite food people in their ivory towers like they would like the hyper literate um smart people society that’s okay cool but what what i’m saying is like intense foodies poo poo fettuccine alfredo’s like it’s not authentically italian it’s like who gives a rat’s a double hockey sticks also it was invented in rome and it’s a delicious dish uh so i guess it is true that fettuccine alfredo chicken is an adult version mac cheese nuggets especially put a little bit of broccoli on there i think it’s delicious too i love it who could not love it but i do agree with this with this opinion that it is the adult version it is it’s like more acceptable for you to eat yeah yeah yeah okay art fexiquila says mythical kitchen staff should be able to hug josh at least once a year great opinion love it will you sacrifice your christmas bonus absolutely not to hug me because that’s because it’s a substitute good you have to choose this is not as a hug is not equal to money well fine then you don’t you want it you need to tell me that you want me to give you money for me to hug you yes yes that is really what does that even mean because you obviously are excited with the for the prospect for people who don’t know i for maybe there’s people who don’t watch the the youtube show i often joke about but it is i’m also pretty serious about the fact that i don’t like to be touched uh and i don’t like hugging uh co-workers especially um and so that’s where this is all coming from so if if my coworkers want to hug me they gotta give me their holiday bonus that’s the themes are the rules nicole i don’t make them except i did yeah you just made it last one last one at liddy casemiro all peanut butter is gross except for laura’s give me all the oil on top please refuse yeah what am i gonna make i’m going to mix my own peanut butter like a peasant no they should do that in the factory format yes i got what i thought what was billed as a no stir peanut butter and there’s a little layer of oil on top through the whole thing away well that’s just because it was separated i didn’t actually i mixed it and then i put it in the fridge so it stopped separating but no i i don’t life’s too short i got stuff to do i’m not i’m not mixing my own peanut butter i don’t think all peanut butter is gross i love creamy i love chunky i love this i love that but i love laura’s cutters so much i’d argue that like all peanut butter is pretty damn good except for the whole foods 365 unsalted crunchy oh yeah the unsalted is gross but the honey the the honey roasted that’s that’s good but i accidentally bought the wrong one one time and i was just like this is so it tastes so like bacterial and like burnt peanut skins and i was like i’m out i’m out it’s the first gross peanut butter i’ve had one more at gilborne bagels are a type of pasta you’re wrong drinks are food or whatever i said and on that 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