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office dispute that we had this is now like this is our functional hr actually we we have a lovely head of hr esther role what’s up esther you’re listening to this i’m sure but we’re gonna be hashing out this dispute right now because you threw away my yogurt i didn’t throw away you your yogurt vee through with you under your orders you ordered v to throw away the yogurt don’t you dare pass the butt to be on this one i said throw the crap away that’s no longer good okay but everybody knows wait a second wait a second wait a second wait a second we all know that some things have expiration dates but they don’t really like you know comply like we don’t really really like adhere to those expiration dates like yogurt never goes bad i agree with that ketchup barely ever goes ketchup does go bad because i have had expired ketchup so your official stance on do expiration dates matter sometimes most of the time a lot of the time literally never literally never they are an absolute scam from the get-go but you just said ketchup goes bad it goes bad not according to the expiration date the dates don’t matter food certainly does expire i think the health risks are overblown by people okay i think for whatever reason people started thinking that if you eat food that is expired you’ll get sick that was the messaging that i always grew up with right was that like oh the milk’s past the expiration date you’re gonna get sick if you drink it which yeah rarely ever happens the the most serious forms of foodborne illness have absolutely nothing to do with the age of the food and they especially have nothing to do with the exploration dates yeah most of it happens in in processing and in the preparation things like that but the actual expiration date doesn’t matter the only reason i know that ketchup goes bad you’ve heard the story you’ve heard nicole’s heard the story i’ll tell it anyways uh so my lovely girlfriend julia is a bit of a food hoarder she does not throw anything away when i first went over to her apartment maybe like the fourth or fifth time that you know we ever saw each other um i don’t even remember what it might have been breakfast that sounds salacious but anyways i like to put ketchup on my eggs what is this okay i keep going anyways i like to put ketchup on my eggs and i go into a fridge and i see a bottle of ketchup and the ketchup is like a little bit brown it was sir kensington’s okay and without thought it was like organic yeah i thought it was like it was like a new fancy balsamic ketchup right yeah uh and i put some on my plate and i ate some of my eggs and immediately it was like a really tannic wine the way that almost kind of takes your breath away and like sucks the moisture sure out of your cheek like it tastes like i was being poisoned uh and i was like what the hell is this and then i looked down at the expiration date and it was like four years expired okay that’s a little and so that in that sense that expiration date it didn’t necessarily matter but it was nice to know this ketchup was bottled roughly five or six years ago that’s just gnarly and so like that is to say the expiration date it doesn’t matter trust your palate if something tastes really really terrible it’s really not great for you but it also isn’t going to get you sick which is the thing that a lot of people think i have a story for you about expiration dates so one time when i was working on a photo shoot as i used to do um we were we were hungry we were you know we were just a little bit what is it peckish and uh good use of peckish thank you so much so uh we had these snacks that we were photo that we were photographing okay and uh i i told the photographer i’m like yeah pop one of those open let’s see what it tastes like and then she’s like it expired like two weeks ago and i’m like don’t worry about it i work as an r d chef which i used to do and i’m like it’s not a big deal expiration dates are kind of just there just open it eat it no problem and then we we ate one and then we were like that’s really good let’s open another one and then we saw it had mold on it but what happened well it wasn’t exactly i felt gross and i was ashamed of myself when i told her that hey don’t listen to me anymore i’m kind of stupid okay so i i was actually reading this report from a gastroenterologist who a journalist was asking what actually happens if you can consume food with mold on it and he’s like you might get sick but it’s not going to be getting sick from the actual mold you’re literally going to be getting psychosomatically sick from your reaction to it right interesting so i have a mold allergy like if i have penicillin i can like die oh oh god okay well that’s serious because i was actually going to talk about that so mine’s a little bit different because i have an actual penicillin allergy that makes sense well have you ever eaten moldy food and gotten well i love blue cheese i think that’s a different thing i don’t know if it makes me itchier if it’s psychological well no i mean there’s different strains of mold right what are they called uh mycotoxins that develop from from mold um and so you know like the strain that’s used in blue cheese has a long history in cheese making etc etc um but these kind of like free-floating molds that can develop on foods because there have been a couple of cases of deaths from moldy food pancake mix there were a couple cases of death but that was from people with severe mold allergies that cause like respiratory anaphylaxia or whatever i’m just kind of using sciency words that indicate bad things for people but so that has actually happened but it has nothing to do with the actual expiration date interesting because expiration dates mean nothing and there’s no standardized system to put them on your food whatsoever and this all kind of started uh one there’s a weird report that al capone’s brother ralph is the reason that we have expiration dates on milk ralph capone i like that better than al capone sounds better i feel like he didn’t get nearly as much publicity which meant he probably had like a better more stable life okay you know what i mean but anyways there’s like a weird story in the 30s about how ralph capone’s child or friend’s child got sick from expired or from from tainted or bad milk uh but none of that’s actually verified it was from like one granddaughter’s memoir that’s like you know ralph’s the reason we got dates on milk and everyone’s like who paid you to write this book but the modern movement of putting these labels on food came in like the 1970s okay um and grocery stores would literally just have their own labels they would put on food they’d be like i’ll probably eat this cheese by this date i don’t really know there were a bunch of bills that congress tried to pass through to really consolidate everything and being like hey we should like actually test this and consolidate it and do a federal system for how long foods last and everyone was just like nah and so it just never happened and that’s the craziest thing and the biggest evidence that expiration dates mean nothing because no one can decide what they are or the language used on them and it causes like really bad things to happen right okay like you throwing away my freaking yogurt no i didn’t i throw it away through it i keep fire zero greek yogurt in the fridge because it is a great high protein snack and i’m a big boy i never throw away the yogurt i know that you don’t throw away the yogurt so i don’t throw away the yogurt yogurt never goes bad right i think yogurt never goes bad i’ve had yogurt that’s been sitting in my fridge for like months i’ve scraped the mold off yogurt well i’ve never done that i’ve never had it before a little bit too far but and i feel absolutely nothing uh about that do you scrape mold off of any food no no you see mold you’re done i have a mold allergy oh that makes sense yeah i forgot about that i forgot about that toxic mold you have asthma yeah exactly my my my you have the note that got you out of pe no my parents never did that for me unfortunately but um i toxic black mold and asthma is not a good combination let me just tell you that yeah i’ve never like taken the mold off of food before because if i see mold on i just throw the whole lot away if you never scraped mold off of your food growing up you’re bougie that’s my official stay with that statement nicole you must declare i my name is hi my name is nicole and idi and i am bougie thank you my name is joshua and i ate a lot of old cheese i guess i just never leave to be honest i just never try to leave food in the fridge once i see like once i see a like uh like mold or like a spore or like it kind of like wilting i just know like hey this isn’t good anymore i don’t want to consume this i don’t want my loved ones to consume it so i’m just gonna throw it in the garbage but expiration dates if the milk is like three days past the expiration i’m not throwing it away i give it the old sniff test you know yeah the sniff test is the most important test but you can’t only do the sniff test you gotta pour the milk in the glass and see if there’s chunky chunks in there disagree disagree with the chunky no no seriously if the chunkity chunks don’t smell i’m i’m a you i’m a stranger i’ll drink cuddle milk you ever had buttered milk buttermilk’s literally of course it’s halfway to cottage cheese it’s basically a ricotta and a jug you realize how expensive ricotta is you’re throwing away that fresh milk ricotta ew dude no no no no no i can’t do that i’m sorry um there’s like limits to my grossness you ever like smell milk and go back for a second smell and know that it smells bad and just decide to drink it anyways no no never never never what if it’s bad it’s bad nah i disagree um but also okay so my and maybe you can fact check me on this um i don’t believe that i’ve ever had a foodborne illness well again i’ve never had food poisoning knock on wood knock on wood um i i believe that i likely take more risks than other people on my food and this isn’t you know to say that that is necessarily evidence of anything but i think people we’ve been taught to play it very very quote unquote safe okay with our food like that as in you know if it’s past the expiration date uh throw it away your pork has to be cooked to like 165 degrees things like that um and you know even things that don’t actually help people stay safe at all including i remember growing up and watching my mom wash chicken in the sink saying you gotta wash the bacteria off of it a lot of people wash their chicken i think that’s another debate should you wash your chicken yeah that’s the whole thing that i i’ve learned it gets toxic so fast on the internet yeah people like to wash their chicken with like vinegar and a lot of those are like cultural things yeah yeah my mom like cooks her her salmon not cook she cleans her salmon in salt water so like there’s like a bunch of different like people do what they want to do but yeah it doesn’t like the health what is it called fda say like not wash your chicken yeah every health organization out there is just like don’t wash your chicken you are spreading water droplets with salmonella around um and if you actually look at how people get sick from food it has nothing to do with consuming mold it has nothing to do with following expiration dates it has everything to do with just like contaminated water droplets sitting near your food that doesn’t get heated because heat kills right a lot of bacteria not not all of it there are certainly cases but if you look at the biggest food the biggest and deadliest food outbreaks in history hold up i was making a little list kind of just from my memory because i am fascinated by this uh 2011 a a listeria outbreak uh from raw cantaloupe killed 33 people it was from a farm in colorado the united states in the united states in 2011 under obama’s watch 33 people i i only say that because a lot of people not to get political on this but a lot of people when you know trump sort of was gutting the fda and people are saying that food safety standards are going to drop et cetera et cetera and it’s like our food safety standards are really high they’re they’re kind of really high but they still you know a lot of it’s decentralized in a way in the way that even now um different states have different labeling laws required for expiration dates et cetera et cetera and a lot of things have been slipping through the gaps for a long long time including 2011 was like the deadliest food outbreak and i think a hundred years the last one was like typhoid in the oysters in new york in 1915. which killed 150 people which is wild typhoid in the oysters but yeah this cantaloupe outbreak uh killed 33 people and it all had to do with just corroded moist factory equipment that like had listeria introduced into it from a uh dump truck essentially and no one knows where the original listeria came from because listeria if you look at all these food outbreaks most of it just comes down to like poop like there’s poop in the food the poop got in the food no i’m dead serious if you are concerned i don’t like this nicole if you’re concerned about food safety you have to worry about where the poop on your food is do you mean like the manure or like people poop people put sometimes it’s people poop sometimes there was an e coli outbreak in bagged spinach back in 2006 and the origin was people poop because we don’t pay farm workers a living wage they get paid by how much they pick and so if they don’t have time to go to the bathroom they poop in the field and then so you know literally like i mean raise wages for farm workers and we won’t have as many people die from e coli in this finish a lot of it does come from animal poop as well yeah and things are supposed to be washed and treated especially treated with radiation i believe yeah um and sometimes it just don’t happen so there is just mysterious listeria poop bacteria that ended up in a factory maybe through a dump truck they couldn’t find it in the original soil on the farm the cantaloupes come from but that’s what it is it’s just like crappy factory equipment that isn’t cleaned properly stagnant water that was sitting on the conveyor belt of the cantaloupe truck whatever and then 33 people are dead meanwhile not a single person dies from like oh there was some mold on my prego can we pivot really quick so what what i love this conversation i don’t want to talk about it i want to talk about the time the hot dogs killed 22 people in 90 years talk about the hot dogs hot dogs killed 22 people in 98. that’s it it was listeria again listeria is like the biggest killer everyone’s so worried about raw chicken and salmonella and it’s just like poop-based listeria on raw vegetables what do you mean as a body what do you mean at some point and again a lot of it’s coming from factories and then the thing with hot dogs that’s unique whereas at least packaged vegetables have or unpackaged vegetables um can have an opportunity to breathe you get poop and a hot dog there’s so many preservatives in it that that’s sitting there you could have right there’s hot dogs in our fridge that have been there for like four months and i’m like well it’s a hot dog i throw them away and then you say where are the hot dogs and then you’re like why did you throw the hot dogs away give me the poop hot dogs where’s the hebrew netties i need my hebrew natty lights that’s what i call the low-fat hebrew nationals we should make a beer out of hebrew nationals and call it hebrew naughty light i’m fully sold uh but anyways the hot dogs are sealed and then most people don’t eat them for a long time because they’re so well preserved so there’s just like five months of poop bacteria i have spread i have like a like a creeping itch from like the base of my of my spine to like my hair right now i’m hoping our listeners do too because i want people to wake up from this idea of like right people call into question my food safety practice and they’re like josh is wearing gloves that’s crazy they’re also my mom where did she say that no she doesn’t watch her my mom doesn’t even have my mom has no social media i don’t know i thought maybe you’re showing her a video or something no no no but no like uh for instance i was like cutting raw chicken on a cutting board put that into a soup and then was cutting vegetables on the same cutting board and put that into the soup people like you can’t cut vegetables on the same thing as raw chicken not either it’s going into a soup josh it’s cooking for five hours i get that but i just don’t recommend it either it’s the poop hot dogs not mean of course the poop hot dogs that are killing people so you know we use wood and we cut chicken on the wood cutting boards and that’s a big no-no yeah it’s porous it contains again i’m not a hero nicole you shouldn’t do that i agree that wouldn’t fly in a restaurant dates again with you yeah that’s all right i like the poop hot dogs it’s just a funny phrase you have to stop okay let’s talk about x-rays can i have a one more time you already have one of them okay so i’m so sorry one of the last negative reviews we got for this podcast on apple was just like great podcast about food but i think they talk about like poop and vomiting and their negative experiences with the spicy food too much so it’s good if you experience the spicy food we must have been talking about i may have been talking at the time i ate spicy food and threw up because of it oh and so they were just like we don’t need the gross talk i’m like welcome to food it’s disgusting food in in general is this yeah when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family 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attentive of approaching vehicles [Music] what about have you ever been to like the store and you see okay have you okay so you pick up a bag of lettuce okay speaking of lettuce yeah yeah you take a bag of lettuce home and then it like turns pink the second you see it but the exploration it says it’s good for another two weeks then what do you do what do you do oh i i eat so many bruised batters disgusting vegetables no you oh my god do you return fresh food to the store you would you would do that no not since covet because they don’t take it but i have so many gift cards i have so many gift cards from so many stores is it like worth the gas money in time yes you always listen you need for 279 iceberg let me tell you it’s not just one iceberg it might be something else maybe meat you might have bought like 40 worth of brisket and then you open it you’re like that is stanky yeah yeah that does happen that doesn’t yeah no it doesn’t matter if it’s 2.75 for the romaine or if it’s 40 for a brisket it’s the principle of the matter they’re putting food out there that’s not safe for people to eat so yeah i’m going to say hey i can’t consume this but lettuce that has rest on it is safe to consume i mean i mean pinking is fine the proper term is pinky oh oh the proper term is pinking not rust are you sure that’s the proper term or just something that one person told you once so i used to work at a at a at a salad place a research and development lab for salad so yum it we called it pinking so either take it or leave it i’m nicole i’m a scientist i work in a research development salad lab i did for like five minutes and they called it pinking but uh yeah i mean it’s not that it’s not safety but like when i open the bag and i see that there’s like you know there’s wilt and there’s like little uh holes in the lettuce you better believe i’m returning it you think i have time for this there’s certain things that do freak me out i’m not just a monster who is out here consuming things like hungry hungry hippo style me either and like i’m not a monster that returns everything that has like a little like boo boo on it i’m not a monster if i see holes that bugs have eaten through vegetables i get freaked out naturally as you should one of my biggest fears that i bite into an apple and there’s a worm well like in the movie like in the movies but has that ever happened please someone tell us on twitter if that has ever happened i will get i will then will you two dollars but i need photo evidence have you ever like found something truly terrifying in your food like that like a bug um probably yeah some sort of bug like one of those big banana spiders you seen this oh i was i was eating cereal i was eating cereal and there was spider in my cereal really yeah oh my god i thought you could say there were uh shrimp tails in your cinnamon tube no no um i don’t think i have in packaged food i mean like restaurants obviously like once i pulled like a three foot hair out of my mouth and it kind of went down my throat from kfc mashed potatoes mashed potatoes for a little bit like did you complain no no i don’t complain we just had this conversation earlier where i was talking about how i will never complain at any restaurant the one time i did if it is a fancy restaurant where i’ve spent a lot of money i won’t even complain i’ll just like raise raise it to with their their attention last time happened was like really sandy clams that i paid like 26 for this beautiful clam dish and it was just covered in sand and i was just like yo y’all gotta let someone know that they’re not cleaning the clams properly okay that’s good and so that was about it though that’s it that’s the most i’ve done in a decade nice otherwise i will just eat the bad experience and then i will even feel obligated to go back to that place where i had the bad experience to give them a shot to redeem themselves that’s nice of you yeah thank you give people second chances yeah yeah constantly people like sandy people in safety clamps but you get two it’s like once the second time happens then it’s a trend and and we understand for sure but definitely too do you smell your meat all the time you do right i tell yes i always make the people around me smell it too just to make sure yeah always i get that that that to me is one of the bigger things like people will try and look at you know beef will sometimes get that rainbow shine on it you know what i’m talking about i think that’s yeah i do and i feel like that’s related to like silver skin maybe but i don’t know sometimes i know what you mean there’ll be some like weird kind of browning on it and you’ll see like a little like rainbow prism sometimes yeah i don’t know what that is but people kind of worry about the color of their meat and that kind of just has to do with exposure to oxygen which isn’t necessarily a bad thing right uh like brown steaks don’t look as attractive but people know that and so they will add they will carbon monoxide gas like things like steaks or ahi tuna to look more red to look more appealing so it’s nothing to do with the actual like date that that product was manufactured whatever you know what smelly meat you know what i hate i hate whenever i open a package of meat and there’s like a little sticker on it and the little sticker underneath it is brown meat what do you mean you know what i mean like whatever you ever buy meat i buy them so much i buy you buy ground beef okay and there’s a sticker on it that says 90 percent and then oh it’s hiding it’s hiding you can’t tell the quality of your beef because the ad isn’t that the worst it’s especially insulting when the picture on that sticker is a fresh red ground beef and then you take that sticker off and there’s just this brown crap underneath hey why that’s not nice but does it make it taste worse does it make your eating experience less enjoyable i think we actually did a gmm test on that like red meat versus brown herme versus like oh you know yeah yeah and i think the test was inconclusive yeah a lot of things are inconclusive sometimes yeah um every time i open a package of meat regardless of if i just bought it from the grocery store if it’s been in my fridge for three or four days every single time beef pork chicken fish whatever i cut it open and i put my nose within a centimeter of it and i smell it you have to you have to because that’s the only way to tell if it’s gone bad i’ve i’ve had meat that smelled absolutely putrid that i bought at the grocery store that day it was so funny because every time i do that julia she typically sits on the couch and is like doing productive things as i cook and every time i smell it she looks over and goes like what’s wrong what’s wrong with the meat what’s wrong and i’m like nothing is wrong this is how i tell you nothing is wrong is by smelling it like that and then she was like no one does that i’m like everyone does that or should do that you know go ahead and i didn’t have validation until we’re watching an episode of succession and they’re catering this is going somewhere they’re catering this giant meal they have this fancy catering company in and in the b-roll shot there is a chef opening up a pack of steaks picking it up to their noses going and i was like yes finally vindication smell your meat first my mom does at the butcher she says bring it here and they hang it in front of her and she smells it yeah that’s baller yeah i think i’m going to start doing that now i think she’s passed a torch to me like you should i’m married now i should probably do that for the household you know that’s the biggest way that your married life is i think i’m going to start doing that now i think yeah i’ve decided yeah i’ve decided uh another great point about why expiration dates don’t matter or not even expiration dates but why it’s matter though where where is it coming from it’s literally just a way to sell more food no i don’t know i’m just blindly trusting it’s like it’s like believing in god okay yeah you just kind of have to have that faith like that date is is bible but i mean don’t just sometimes question your faith like hallelujah god is truly benevolent nicole that hell no i’m kidding um god everyone had that debate when they were 15 right and they were reading that richard dawkins book in english class just trying to piss off the teachers oh some awol um but anyways you don’t know how long the like produce how long the meat how long anything in your grocery store was spent in transit right that’s true so when people like these apples have been in my fridge for a week i don’t know if they’re so good to eat it’s like do you know how long they were sitting on the truck do you know how long they were sitting on the grocery store you have no idea you only know from your experience and people not having a good read on that which is to say trust your ears trust your eyes trust your nose the reason that america wastes between 30 to 40 of food a lot of it is because of that right yeah just people throwing it away for the sake of throwing it away so like well i don’t want to chance it and then that you know causes climate change because we’re talking about greenhouse gas emissions on calories that could have gone in your body we’re talking about ending world hunger by developing better you know supply chain systems that could take all that potentially wasted food give that to somebody who needs it and we don’t have any that’s like food waste is a real problem and i know we run a cooking show we compost we donate what we can you know we do that in my own personal home i like refuse to throw food away like i am the ultimate we have food at home i have like canceled a date night dinner i feel like anyone who listens to this podcast thinks i’m a terrible romantic partner and that’s fine uh i’ve like cancelled a date night dinner because i’m like we have a cauliflower we have a cauliflower at home and it needs to be cooked no i’ve done that before too and i just i just think that’s being a responsible person i don’t think that’s being a bad partner i think you’re responsible you’re wasting money you’re throwing money down the down the toilet when you do that agree you’re throwing money down the toilet and then that has a massive ripple effect like it’s estimated that 165 billion dollars a year goes into wasted food uh just from american households there was a study in britain that said that 20 of all food waste was literally avoidable based on solely the uh expiration dates well there you go uh and so now there’s a big urging from the fda to companies to start using the term best buy which is why i feel like i’ve seen that a whole lot more yeah me too yeah before exactly yeah or like you know even used by now they’re going for best buy um just to try and reduce the amount of food that’s thrown away because it means nothing so i respect that yeah me too that said you should not care about the best by date care a little bit get a little bit just just use it as a guide don’t use it as the law just use it as a gentle reminder like hey if this is in your fridge and you know it’s a few days over give it a whiff give it a looksie give it a whiff use your best judgment don’t throw it away just double triple quadruple check have your friends smell it have your neighbors smell it have your dog smell it maybe your kitty it’s like how you can’t smell yourself right if you ever like i can smell myself well that’s not like bacon i just think you need to put deodorant on this what [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your 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butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to get one pack of free bacon in every box for the life your membership plus 10 off your first order that’s butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to claim this deal all right nicole what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] first up we got at dj underscore ventrip sweet red bean paste is just asian peanut butter yeah yeah like basically right good that’s a good one if you look at it if you look at it um one peanut’s very popular across east asian south asian uh heck southeast asian cuisine like it’s really popular peanut butter is like very uniquely an american thing that a lot of people hate yes right i agree with this statement europeans all universally hate peanut butter and root beer it’s something i have because it’s weird and gross if you kind of like but they like marzipan yeah it’s very different like like almond like the nutella stuff like that it’s so different if you eat peanut butter in a vacuum it’s wild how in a similar way that a lot of uh let’s say white americans try like adzuki red bean paste and they’re like beans for dessert that’s weird yeah it’s a little bit off it’s a little bit confusing for for the american palette but once you try it it is delightful i am a huge fan also uh both peanuts and beans are legumes technically so this makes sense for it to be a legume puree um but yeah i literally just ate a sweet red bean bun yeah i gave it for lunch dessert yeah what a freaking treat oh do you know what my face i wasn’t telling you you know my favorite well whatever telling them i know but i gave it to you you should say nicolas nicole gave me what was in the kitchen like i had like the department called ask me if she could if she could give me one and i said yes that’s how you phrase the q that’s how you phrase the statement it was good point is i love i love bean based desserts okay michelle the fast says burgers are overrated my partner could eat them every day but i just don’t get it i am the same as your partner i love burgers cheeseburgers are actually my favorite food of all time and i love burgers but yeah i do agree they get a little bit annoying if you eat them too many times i i don’t know if i could call them overrated because i also love them i love them i love them i high-key i love all kinds too cheeseburgers so much dude dude like burgers is like my family cheeseburgers is my life uh no but i mean like every kind of cheeseburger i love the big old thick boys with the fancy stuff on i like the little thin boys with the crunchy iceberg this is like a little kim’s dog i like the thick ones but it’s weird cheeseburgers are weird it’s weird that a food less than a hundred years old we have had thousands upon thousands of years of food history you think about like homos right okay almost i don’t know why i’m putting so much emphasis hummus hummus has been you’re trying to impress buddy you know i end up on arabic talk a lot i love arab tickets it’s the best form of technology i love it so i got home most on the brain but anyways that’s been around for like thousands upon thousands of years right so much history behind that dish cheeseburgers have literally been around for like a hundred yeah that’s that doesn’t mean they’re not good it just means they’re not good i’m just saying it’s like really fascinating that a food that is less than 100 years old in a wealth of thousands of years of food history has taken over the globe have you ever wanted to try the place that made the burger with the cool little contraptions yes i want to go there louie’s lunch can we go there it’s like one of the other negative reviews on our podcast is mad because we said that louie’s lunch invented the cheeseburger what i don’t know if it’s cheeseburger or burger but i want to try it and also i do too so they they steam their burgers and this weird contraption they steam the cheese in a little tree yeah yeah and they put it on like white bread oh yeah it’s on i want that really bad and there’s like raw onion on it yeah i don’t know why i’m focused on negative reviews this person was like louie’s lunch didn’t invent the cheeseburger one star and i was like who did no one can prove who invented what like literally in any single food history we saw the flamin hot cheetos debacle the caesar salad the bakla all this stuff who cares you just pick a place and go them philippe the original invented the french dip did they probably not oh no i guess not i want to eat this burger so bad well okay next all right we got at gristle mcthorne body toasted english muffins make better burger buns than burger buns it’s highly plausible that they do i have you ever have you ever had an english muffin burger no i the only time i uh this one it was called like devil burger or diablo burger in flagstaff arizona what am i gonna be a flagstone i didn’t insinuate that you are i just said that that’s the only time i’ve had it uh and i’m sure i made one was there an egg on it yeah probably no actually it was like a hatch green chili it was kind of like umami burger s goes around that era thick burger patty like melty white cheddar cheese hatch green chili some sort of aioli yum and it was on an english muffin the problem with the english muffin was that it was like way smaller than yeah you have to account for your burger to be the same size yeah i can see how like a nice spongy stovetop cooked english muffin could be really nice it’s kind of got a similar crumb structure to like a ciabatta did you know that you cook english muffins on a griddle yeah i just said that we didn’t know that until we made them yeah you don’t bake them they’re literally it’s cooked like a pancake but it’s a yeasted dough so crazy yeah and then actually try to make their own english muffins at least once i agree with that that’s a good recipe to have in your back pocket where do you stand on the on the burger bun debate though because uh brioche is out sister i don’t like i don’t care for i like sesame seed bun just normal sesame seed bun normal bun you don’t get down with pretzel buns i mean sometimes potato rolls i’m sure king’s hawaiian oh well when you put that guy in the mix i love king’s wine just because it’s like eating cake yeah it’s like cake i love it i like that i mean i do love king’s wine but sometimes it’s a little too sweet and cakey proper brioche a lot of places started calling things brioche i don’t think they’re not brioche yeah it’s just like a nice glossy umbrella yeah um that said i’m an advocate this is controversial i’m an advocate for the sesame seeded kaiser roll give me a good crusty kaiser with a big thick burger and the juices kind of take out some of that crustage on the kaiser you know what i don’t like too much you leave it for shabbat then yeah i don’t like the challah bun gero i see says breakfast cereals are overrated korean fried rice is the real breakfast mvp so i’ve had korean fried rice before um at republique and it was really damn good you had korean fried rice at the french restaurant yeah they like to do that sometimes with two with two poached eggs and when you jiggly look like boobies don’t take it that’s why we can’t have nice things i love cereal uh i think korean fried rice is probably the best fried rice out in the game right a little bit of kimchi like yeah the eggness i i freaking love kimchi fried rice um that said that is not a substitute good for breakfast cereal i mean like congee sure no i think but i’m saying we need to to flip the association our mind breakfast cereal should not be eaten for breakfast we need to get that out of our heads would you consider rice’s cereal right i mean rice krispies are literally there’s it’s one ingredient and it’s rice so yeah i think i think they’re i know there are substitute goods per se but like you could potentially do a savory breakfast i agree with this person yeah i guess kanji is just the same as rice krispies with milk on it right kind of you know they’re related yeah it’s they’re both a form of porridge one’s just a quick porridge and the grains have been puffed yeah um i i do think it’s weird that we eat such like crazy sugary confections for breakfast yeah i’m not a sugary cereal girl at all i am but i’m like late night sugary cereal to me that’s a munchy treat uh so i agree with this eat eat your korean fried rice in the morning ah bola kanji sounds great i know right all right here we go this is gonna incense nicole at clarebello7 hear me out we’re hearing you claire scrambled eggs with cinnamon what does incense mean uh like you’re gonna be like worked up you’re gonna be in a fit of rage because when i google it it says uh a stick that smells good that’s incense not incensed no i see did you like want to be an english professor what happened yeah i still can if i try really you ever think this job’s making us dumber all the time oh my gosh i mean i’m getting smarter in a different way yeah yeah unorthodox way in a way that most people understand and won’t necessarily break no we’re i think we’re doing great we could always you know improve our googling that word i put a d at the end of it and then it’s like did you mean incensed and i said yes okay uh am i supposed to respond to this ew i don’t like this is that good is that good was i incensed enough for you josh we need to hire a wrangler without adhd to any time we get off topic just hit us with a cattle prod like handmaid’s tale style oh my god one time i was a wrangler for a kid’s shoes photo shoot wow i did so good i took those kids i was like hey you want to go play on the season they’re like yeah yeah yeah and then one kid was just like not responsive to me at all i was like hey child let’s go play and he would just look at me and turn around like uh who do you think you are ma’am and i was like come on let’s go play over there in the jungle gym and then he was just like a diva like he was like hot stuff in the child shoe commercial world i guess he told me i’d never work in the stomach i could end your career lady now get me a juicy juice pretty much uh yeah cinnamon scrambled eggs i’ve never had it it doesn’t sound good i like sugar and scrambled eggs i don’t want it cinnamon countered with the eggy smell sounds bad i love like all forms of curry powder and scrambled eggs give me that eggs burji that’s a great dish um cinnamon i’ll try it i’ll try it i eat so many eggs like too many eggs probably gonna kill me one day but you know we’re out here i like eggs i could eat my mom my mom told me that there was this actually my dad my dad told me that there was a study done in italy that says bubba if you eat two eggs every day you never go to the doctor dude i but literally like a month later he goes bubba don’t eat eggs anymore it’s bad for cholesterol so i was like what is it dad what do you want from me my my favorite genre of those stories they always generate massive headlines one so that study probably wasn’t a very complete thing i was studying correlation my favorite are when there’s just like an old bulgarian woman she’s like this 108 year old bulgarian woman shares her secrets on life how have you been so old and she just goes like dr pepper and cigarettes and i was like there it is folks the secret to living a long life is dr pepper and cigarettes and it’s like i don’t know maybe it’s just a statistical outlier and maybe you shouldn’t just drink soviet era dr pepper in cigarettes maybe there are other causes maybe the telomeres or whatever uh anyways that devour the flower says cream cheese and doritos are good yeah i think that’s accurate but it has to be room temp cream cheese or else it’s all screwed up because your chip gets stuck in it whipped oh my god i love whipped cream cheese i hate whipped cream cheese and i hate you why what did i do to you i’ve done nothing but be nice and simple to use the day i walk through the store you said to me hey you want to be on a podcast there’s a shirt boss man whatever you say [Laughter] nicole showed up to her job interview in like a full pant suit and i was wearing like flip-flops or something next day i came in a t-shirt and jeans and shoes like ready to work i’m like what am i gonna do and you’re just like just fill out some forms like oh we’re not doing anything today and you’re like no onboarding forms are important like i’m ready to get in there how many bull testicles can i fabricate okay oh this has a bad word in it i can’t say it which one suzy who said a bad word oh yeah okay suzy [ __ ] homemaker says it sounds like a japanese last name when he’s healing susie fukin oh my goodness grilled cheese goes best with cherry jam although a good tomato basil soup will do in a pinch cherry jam and tomato basil soup are very different and i believe you the grilled cheese it depends what kind of cheese use like a brie [Laughter] put the jam in the soup you put the cherry jam in the soup and that way everybody’s happy we no longer have problems susie you seem like you’re having problems put the jam in the soup next case i want to start acting more like judge judy on these because normally we just kind of talk about the opinions i want to give like a ruling like there’s a problem to be solved you’re so funny sometimes all right like like here we go at melissa.lefer peas should be eaten mashed with butter fresh lemon salt and pepper no they shouldn’t stop doing that i think we should give real judgment rolling can i be give people something yeah i don’t know but sometimes she’ll like invoke the bailiffs she’ll just be like craig craig you haven’t seen anything like this he’d be like no miss judge judy no no judge me neither me neither bailiff bird uh no yeah the peas with the lemon that sounds good i like pizza okay i don’t care for this opinion doesn’t matter how you like it i’m proud of you um izza del malzi says mint chocolate chip ice cream is the ultimate refreshing ice cream yes ten points to gryffindor ice cream’s not meant to be refreshing oh my god who’s eating ice cream to be refreshed drink listerine if you want mint i mean drink listerine squish it in your mouth for 60 seconds and spit out and then every ice cream is mint chip did you know that you’re supposed to this is the craziest thing i ever thought about oral health so did you know so glad you said hell so whatever as opposed to care so you have to brush your teeth and you don’t need to rinse it out with water you keep so you brush your teeth okay and then i suppose like like swish water what are you talking about josh what are you ever talking about you’re supposed to just leave the toothpaste on there like a mortar like bricklaying i saw that on tick-tock there’s like a big dentist with like curly hair and like he’s like super like is he hot does he like that guy like mike dr mike he’s like a seven point like six at it sounds hot but you know my standards oh sorry was that too often he’s in la-4 but the fact that he’s a doctor makes him like a six um no i’m not doing that try it for a week i’ll i’ll do it i’ll do if tick tock tells me to do something i’ll do it they’ve sent me to some weird guy i went down to that cult in tennessee i joined it for a couple weeks there’s a colton tennessee you never seen that yeah they ate a cat uh all right on that note thank you very they didn’t actually eat the cat they killed a feral cat that attacked their chickens and then one was wearing it as a hat and that caused a big kerfuffle and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog it’s a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzada with a hashtag opinion casserole and for more 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