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breakfast juggernaut of all breakfast juggernauts i love the word juggernaut sunday sunday sunday where does the word juggernaut come from i don’t know sanskrit no it’s definitely great not is it like an argonaut like nautical like a knot is like a sailor mm-hmm but i don’t know i mostly knew it from x-men and there’s the this is sanskrit get wrecked no way juggernaut sanskrit bro nicole nicole is up one nothing today in the score count of hot dog sandwich and i’m gonna come back uh and beat you with my great take about mcdonald’s breakfast sandwich taxonomy you know what i feel like this is your chance to shine josh thank you you’ve been taking the back seat yeah this whole time i’m a very yeah patient man wait for my turn i think this is your time to speak your truth i definitely don’t take up too much space in the room oh never like a certain ex accused me of no you you do less than that you take up no room honey go for it i think you should you should just speak how you feel about breakfast i like the term verbally man spreading i feel like that’s what i do oh yeah you know i got tight hips you’re getting better though thank you yeah the more like alone time like one-on-one time i feel like you have with me you’ve gotten so much better you want to continue no i’m trying to not i’m trying to not take up too much space no i like you well as a strong independent woman i’d like to hear your stance i love talking to you keep going tell me about the mcdonald’s okay okay so uh mcgriddles versus mcmuffin this is really a story this is a story of old school versus new school right this is what it is this is does innovation actually make the world better and as we get deeper and deeper entrenched into this uh digital media nightmare scape that we live in right where it’s detox feeding into instagram feeding into youtube shorts i have learned about myself that i’m a luddite is a luddite luddite refers to a specific movement out of britain i was founded by a person named uh lud i believe um but it refers to the idea of intentionally um eschewing technology got it right like i i don’t how can you my question is how do you eschew technology when you work in technology oh it’s tough it’s tough i do it because i have to no i mean i love making content i love people seeing our content i love that um the thought of children being raised on tick tocks like this have you seen a clockwork orange of course you know you know the end the book yeah they they pry alex de large’s eyes open and just show him images of violence that’s how i feel like kids are with tick-tock these days and this is actually going somewhere because i don’t believe that innovation always makes the world better i think there’s something to not chasing waterfalls nicole and just sticking to the rivers and the lakes that you’re used to and that is the egg mcmuffin for me there is nothing wrong with the egg mcmuffin well not the egg mcmuffin the sausage mcmuffin with egg is the greatest sandwich in the history of fast food breakfast and the mcgriddles cannot hold a candle to it that is my official stance because of the the luddite movement and tlc’s waterfalls um i love mcgriddles i know you i have a passionate lover love affair with mcgriddles how passionate um so passionate sing me the steamy sex scene of you in the mcgriddle it’s too naughty for the pot too hot too hot for the pod um i just love them can i think the main reason why i think mcgriddles are better than mcmuffins is that they hit every single taste bud on your tongue you got the spice from the sausage you got the sweet from the little syrup pockets umami from uh the msg from what are the other ones salty salty salty ass meat hey nobody’s saying that meat ain’t salty it’s salty they have the saltiest breakfast sausage in the game and it’s beautiful what’s the other one bitter uh yeah um i don’t really oh you know the bitter from the old fry oil yeah taste it off the hash brown that you get i think you’re correct yeah i just i just love the way that it tastes i think it encompasses a full breakfast in one bite i just don’t think i need that i think well there’s something to the idea that if you try to please everybody you please nobody that said the data isn’t on my side here also let’s let’s just break down the terms here for people who don’t know okay so the egg mcmuffin was mcdonald’s original breakfast sandwich it was introduced in the early 1970s one of those classic stories that you all seem to hear where like ray kroc write who’s the founder of the franchise system and he like stole mcdonald’s from the mcdonald brothers and watched the founder it’s a pretty good explainer of it uh michael keaton wow what a virtuosic performance it’s a good movie um it really shows kind of how monstrous of a business person he was but how tight of a ship he ran so there’s all these instances of a franchisee being like hey ray i want to add this to the menu and he’s like piss off you know and uh that i mean that happened with the fellaio fish and he was like no screw fish i want to put a pineapple in a bun and everyone’s like that’s weird dude but like the big mac was invented that way it was a lone franchisee in pittsburgh i believe um and the egg mcmuffin happened the same way where they were like bro we if we’re open longer we can sell breakfast we can move more products so it was really the first fast food breakfast and it was the egg mcmuffin it is an english muffin cut in half toasted with canadian bacon which god this is a whole other rabbit hole canadian bacon in america at least refers to cured pork loin correct so it’s like a leaner version of ham but then in canada they have something called pea meal bacon yeah you talk about invented in ontario because somebody can anytime i mention canadian bacon which happens like twice a year once making eggs benedict one talking about a mcmuffin or like maybe a hawaiian pizza at pizza hut uh every canadian is like that’s not it we have pea meal back bacon it’s like just shut they sell it at the cost leave me alone they got the pack of the canadian bacon at the costco i bought it screw it um but anyways egg mcmuffin toasted english muffin canadian bacon american cheese and then their weird disc fried egg i love that stuff i do too it’s so floppy it’s this but sturdy at the same time the egg disc yeah yeah and the yolk is cooked hard but it’s a good it’s good it’s good it’s i wouldn’t want it i would not want a runny oak in that i would not want scrambled eggs in that i don’t know a weird disc fried egg what about the sheet they also have an egg sheet so they have a folded egg sheet which is a very good egg sheet where does that go that goes in the mcgriddles so the mcgriddles that’s why i like it the mcgriddles were invented in the 2010s okay uh and they were invented by the same guy who this is hilarious to me it’s like how bo jackson played both pro baseball and pro football oh i don’t know who that is but just my mom you know beau my mind went to bojack horseman sorry take it no so the same guy who invented mcgriddles invented the stuffed crust pizza what yeah dude can do it all oh god dude can do it all right not that it matters anymore chasing the fast food fortune uh i bet he also has a bunch of flops that economically ruined him though you know those types of people they all they get two hits and then they’re like uh tom ryan we’ll make mashed potatoes out of beef and sell at the kfc you know they also have like a bad idea to go along with it uh but anyway so the mcgriddles are they’re pancake buns actually they’re technically sweet griddle cakes oh oh my god are they a griddle cake and not a pancake nicole what’s the difference none a griddle’s a pan a pan’s a griddle one’s like curved at the edges but it does not affect the batter that goes into it whatever continue but they they call them griddle cakes instead of whatever it sounds kind of like cottage core when you call it a griddle cake yeah you know i like that and uh so that’s the main difference is they’re little griddle cakes that have syrup crystals in it and i’ve made this from scratch it’s a tough thing to do you gotta like crystallize maple syrup but get it so there’s enough moisture so when it heats up it melts it’s incredible the technology technology is incredible it’s impressive to know is it denying it’s impressive technology it’s really cool yeah it’s a feat it’s a feat it’s a feat and so what happens is they cook the mcgriddle’s buns and then the syrup melts in these little pockets so there’s no mess from the maple syrup but you get all that fake maple flavor in there you bite it it is a heavily perfumed sandwich maybe that’s why i like it i think so it’s a it’s a heavy aroma because that’s what i call it yeah it’s like the sausage patty has like this like distinct spice it’s like sage and black pepper sagey it’s peppery it’s delicious it’s it’s iconic and you get a little egg stink a little egg stank a little egg snake but it’s a pleasant steak it is it is and then just that glue cheese just and then the hot maple syrup whiff in your car um i hate it it like sickens me it’s really bizarre this is one of those things that i i’ve never liked the mcgriddle this is not performative mcgriddle also we must say that the trademark term is mcgriddles yes and not mcgriddle it’s not mcgregor and mcdonald’s doesn’t even get this right on their internal language which bothers me because there are two mcgriddles the single mcgriddle only refers to one of the griddle cake buns nicole this is what it is so when you whenever you order a mcgriddles you are getting two mcgriddles because they’re singular buns with things in between so they are a mcgriddles nice you can have multiple mcgriddles you can have a mcgriddles one mcgriddles is a mcgriddles thank you so much yeah i appreciate that can i ask you a question go ahead what kind of like uh condiment do you put on your egg mcmuffin uh none shockingly it’s one of the few no ketchup i if i’m feeling frosty you know hot it’s not feeling frosty no no i i typically eat it plain that said no jam what about jam no jam uh uh people only reserve for a biscuit-based breakfast sandwich oh let me okay but typically here’s the reason mcgriddle’s about me the wrong way is that i’ve never been a fan of maple syrup with eggs and you’ve heard me talk about it yeah you’ve talked about this but i’ve also just like talked about how i’d put sugar in scrambled eggs and be fine with that yeah but it’s the maple that turns you off it’s the maple for whatever it is there’s something about the egg stink mixed with the maple fake aroma that reminds me like the beaver butthole smell oh yeah i’m talking about yeah the we used to harvest we used to have these have glands so they didn’t use savage they still have glands but like beaver buttholes haven’t changed we have yeah so they would they would express the glands from the beaver buttholes to extract i believe vanilla uh yeah i think it was a couple different uh blue raspberries i don’t know something it was yeah it’s a chemical called castorium yes um but every time i smell a fake extract right i just picture beaver buttholes and it’s weird to me it’s weird to me that’s what i don’t like about mcgriddles is the beaver butthole of it all but no a lot of times people will like can you google beaver buttholes maybe google beaver bottles so a lot of people when they taste a soda they don’t know what the flavor is like big red or something oh my god i had big red when i went to texas for my bachelor what would you say the flavor of big red is uh icky a lot of people say bubble gum it’s like it’s like it’s like sickening it’s i mean i don’t mind it’s syrupy and sickening but it’s that that bubble gum aroma that people a lot of times it’s like things taste like chicken um frame it put it in our office but when people taste quote-unquote bubble gum what they’re really just tasting is artificial extract it’s the it’s the universal smell of extra josh’s artificial artificial extract in almost everything that you eat i know which is weird why is that the griddle that makes you uncomfortable maybe it’s the opportunity cost right it’s the reason that there are a lot of taco bell items that i don’t particularly jibe with like i’m thinking about the naked chicken chalupa the chicken chips i think they’re great ideas but when i go to taco bell i don’t want chicken nuggets i’m there because the crunchwrap supreme is fanfreakingtastic the whole litany of chalupas the chalupe if you will that’s funny um you know and even the doritos locos taco various grilled stuffed burritos actually got rid of the grill stuff burrito which is the travis rip but i’m saying they have like their flavors that i like to enjoy mcdonald’s for me the sausage egg the sausage mcmuffin with egg is the greatest tasting breakfast sandwich from any fast food restaurant one of the greatest breakfast sandwiches in history better than a bacon egg and cheese from new york fight me new yorkers why don’t i like it do you think it’s because i just have an aversion to like um english muffins do you have an aversion english muffins maybe i don’t think i have an aversion i just when i see them i’m just like you know what i mean but to me they’re the ideal there was a time there was like this mid-2000s era when you know the fancy burger boom was going on oh yeah and people were like look brioche it’s out we need to find the new burger bun english muffins i mean it sucks that makes no sense english muffins are like sourdough i love that you like that i just like i mean i love a savory i love separating my sweet breakfast for my savory breakfast they’re okay having them on the same table but different plates yeah you know what’s weird i love savory breakfast i choose a savory breakfast over a sweet one like 90 of the time but something about a mcgriddles just like makes sense to me when i bite into it it it encompasses breakfast as a tote as a whole it’s like it’s very futuristic in that way to me yeah and i like that i like the i like how accessible it is it’s like in that back to the back to the future sequel where they have seen it like the pills i’ve never seen it either so i don’t know why i’m referencing that’s okay go ahead but there’s like you know in the future they like condense the food and no let’s let’s let’s flip it let’s go to willy wonka right okay love willie willy wonka uh which one’s hotter gene wilder or uh johnny depp oh gene welder right but what about can i tell you why i got chalamet now can i tell you which one challenge i don’t care about he’s my type gene wilder he just didn’t give a rat’s ass about anything in that movie and i loved that about him his hair was crazy his face was crazy it fit the character the kids were falling off the boats he’s just like okay yeah johnny depp was too curated yeah johnny depp don’t get me wrong hundo p would hang out with him but like much more into the gene wilder and saying yeah in tim burton i just you know it’s not it’s not my side i get the aesthetic i like it um i love helena bonham carter big crush on her as bellatrix lestrange because she’s you know like a little bit crazy bellatrix i always thought it was beatrix no it’s definitely bellatrix oops sorry beatrix kiddos from the killability universe thank you what i’m saying is willy wonka invented a gum that is a three-course meal uh-huh that it went from like roast beef to blueberry pie or something and that’s been like soup and then and then a blue and then she became a pie and then yeah yeah violate your turning violet you know but i’m saying the mcgriddles is like that to me where it’s like you put the whole three-course meal into one package that i never needed i never wanted how do you know you never needed it because i tasted it and my body violently repelled it no i didn’t repel it you’re lying dude nicole you would never throw up from eating food no i really swallow it stick your tongue out like you’re on for your factory i make a noise and go ah yeah that’s it yeah yeah uh no when i ate four pounds of baby food i just housed it yeah just stayed inside my body and data is nominated what i’m saying is um i i do not represent the popular sentiment because mcdonald’s put out a twitter poll that said mcgriddle or egg mcmuffin and 50.3 percent of the 75 000 respondents said mcgriddles which for me that’s the moment i realized that i’m getting old it’s not it’s not being yelled at by the teens on tick tock no i mean so that’s embarrassing enough i mean that means that the egg mcmuffin got 49.7 and depending on how mcdonald’s structures their electoral college they still could have won the presidency of breakfast just because listen america is divided okay it’ll always be divided let’s get into it trying to say is that you can also exist in a world where you can have your beliefs but also um it’s fine like whatever yeah wow geez that was inspiring words from nicole did she heal the nation yet maggie can we google did nicole heal the nation with that speech about mcgriddles because i i feel healed let’s let’s go grab someone from the opposite side of the political aisle dude give him a hug i tried i tried i tried you sounded like you you unconvinced yourself the middle of it yeah like we can all code with our beliefs you know it’s everyone’s look everyone’s trying the best all right we’re uh time continues this is what this is what my go-to whatever things are hard to know is the green party would have been the biscuit sandwich let me just say that yeah gary johnson out here just like the hot cakes are fine the hot cakes are fine uh do you guys remember when gary johnson pretended to have a heart attack heart attack on stage because someone was like marijuana causes heart attacks and gary johnson just grabs his heart and falls to the ground uh i don’t know i don’t i don’t believe in much 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breakfast innovations they’ve had you know bagel sandwiches in the past i remember they had something called a spanish omelet bagel sandwich in america yeah at mcdonald’s i mean it was like you know frozen peppers and onions oh my gosh that was whenever they’re doing all that international stuff remember yeah yeah oh my gosh yeah yeah sometimes they had a steak and egg bagel sandwich which doesn’t even make see it was the only time they ever had steak on the menu at least in my recent memory um and it just like wasn’t great their bagels were the super sugary kind of sara lee ones i mean they were perfectly fine i’d probably rather have that i’d certainly rather have that than mcgriddles hater um but i think mcdonald’s found the exact answer they were looking for with the mcgriddles because they they wanted a sweeter option that you can eat in your car because that’s been one of the biggest sea changes in the fast food industry is that people used to go sit down and enjoy a breakfast inside mcdonald’s and now it’s literally 90 plus delivery and drive-through yeah and so like literally mcdonald’s hotcakes with syrup they’re really good to me they are never had them before dude they’re fantastic they’re hashbrown though great all of it is great mcdonald’s breakfast item per item across the board smashes any other fast food breakfast and i’ve had them all i’ve had wendy’s breakfast baconator i’ve had this conversation with so many of david’s friends they are like jack-in-the-box heartos jack-in-the-box is a nostalgic breakfast thing yeah especially for teens who like to party safely teens out there because it was the it was one of the few things that was like open uh at like 24 hours and also they started breakfast for 24 hours so i ate a lot of you know 2 a.m breakfast jacks when i was 16. and i have a fun nostalgia for it but it just doesn’t hold a candle to how good the cannon of mcdonald’s breakfast sandwiches are carl’s jr came out with her handmade biscuits and i mean they’re good their breakfast burger is a good item um taco bell or jack-in-the-box has a really good breakfast burrito unsung hero uh the oatmeal at mcdonald’s really good i do i used to get their fruit and yogurt parfait all the time and they got rid of it their oatmeal is hot fire flames almost as good as drama juice it’s dude jump i’ve eaten so much jamba juice oatmeal in college oh my god yeah in college during school in the morning i would go and i would get my oatmeal and i would get a banana and a honey and then i would go to the to the bistro area where like kids were teaching and kids were like learning i’d be like hey yo give me some fruit and then they would like give me a fruit cup and i would chop it and put it in the oven they give you golden raisins they never got the golden rates bro they give you the golden raisins with the jamba oatmeal and that puts it over the top put a little salt in it it’s really good do you think any other fast food breakfast like what do you think the next innovation in fast food breakfast is that could challenge the hegemony of the mcgriddle because right now we’re in a bipolar power distribution you know between mcgriddles and mcmuffins and the biscuits you know like you said they’re the green party yeah jill stein over there you know what i love look i’m just i stand for things yeah um i taco bell’s breakfast is quite good but also quite bad it’s hard to explain i know what you mean the crunchwrap the breakfast contrap it is good but it leaves me wanting more yeah the the what the rollouts they got roll-ups yeah but they’re like they’re not a full burrito they’re they’re like teeny tiny like they feel like mcdonald’s burritos right they leave me wanting more i think taco bell can potentially do a really really good thing with breakfast i think they gotta work it out a little bit more yeah i think there’s potential there put some chili chiles on there man taco bell chili ketchup i’m 100 percent down dude every episode recently come with us just being innovation chefs yeah i mean that’s that’s really just what i wanted to do i literally wanted to do that for taco bell and taco bell has tried so i lived next to one of the top three most important taco bell locations in all of america yeah yeah i was right next to my high school it was one of those weird ones where they’re like for whatever reason we’re testing out certain demographics and how they respond to things so we would get like the experimental new items that nobody talked about that’s really cool yeah we were one of the first to get the crunchwrap um and it’s like it’s like 20 miles from the taco bell headquarters huge uh in irvine uh and anyway so they tested out their initial breakfast run at the location by my high school this is like maybe like 2006 2007. that’s awesome and it was all with uh gigantic grilled stuffed burritos and so they had this like giant you know full pound monster burrito that had like bacon eggs nacho cheese and guac in it and it was like i don’t know i don’t know if that’s what people want in a breakfast it was it was so soupy it was soupy and fresh soup breakfast and like the eggs are not cooked fresh right they’re like the powdered eggs i don’t know if it’s powdered egg or because they have large curds the powdered egg tends to like be very crumbly and crumbly and curd smaller but i don’t know how to talk about desert eggs like i know mcdonald’s for instance they crack eggs fresh and they’re they’re one of the few to do it i appreciate that i do too and then their sheet egg that comes in the biscuit sandwiches and the mcgriddles the one that’s the folded up uh scrambled egg yeah that is a liquid that’s already beaten yeah that comes there um but that’s like beaters yeah but i think it’s real like zag beaters are fake egg oh it’s egg white with like yellow mixed in i think what yeah dude egg beaters are literally like a low cholesterol option i didn’t know that yeah that’s amazing yeah it’s great it tastes fine okay you know perfectly good i’d rather have a whole egg you know that that’s one of those like no matter how gym bro i get uh-huh i will never eat a freaking egg white omelet i just that is upsetting to me there was a period of time when i when i was an egg white omelette girl and it was just gag fest the salsa on the egg whites and it’s just like oh this is sad and then the spinach and then i listen one time i made an omelette an egg white omelet and i put spinach in it and i was audibly gagging and then my mom goes girl i gotta teach you how to put spinach in your omelettes and she like was like first you cut it and you cook it and then you put it in the omelette because i was just leaving it stringy like in the egg white and it was like like it was not a good time sorry they should put egg whites on the menus here though i feel like they can like find a way to starbucks starbuck’s got that little egg white feta spinach wrap it’s actually really tasty yeah it’s really good i like it kind of looks like vom.com inside but i don’t care starbucks is a good fast food breakfast if they count as fast food i guess yeah but they’re you expect them they’re they’re a coffee chain right they’re not yeah they’re not like a true fast food restaurant no yeah yeah they coffee is the main main thing do you like the coffee at mcdonald’s uh it’s it’s perfect i treat coffee like medicine mcdonald’s underrated i had it recently and i i drank it and i was like this is a fine diner cup of coffee yeah people are like i like this coffee i like that it’s like no i like mcdonald’s don’t get me wrong i’m kind of a coffee snob but mcdonald’s coffee definitely satiates my need of like caffeine well they they put a lot of resources into their coffee programs mccafe and if you go to europe that’s well a lot like when mcdonald’s are like right like i remember going to a mcdonald’s in france they literally had like a macaroni case right and they did pulled espresso drinks and i was like me too you didn’t yeah no i went on a contiki tour and uh we stopped at the mcdonald’s i think it was i’m pretty sure it was in france or it wasn’t the netherlands but they have like legit mcdonald’s there like legit half yeah no and that’s what mcdonald’s thought they were going to try and do in the states maybe like you know 10 15 years ago cafe and so you know they had all these just like white milky latte drinks filled with the vanilla syrup but that said their their black coffee is perfectly fine yeah totally if you’re choosing a fast food breakfast do you go anywhere but mcdonald’s um i lean to mcdonald’s yeah because it’s consistent i know what i’m getting i’m getting my favorite thing and that’s that like i’m not trying anything new yeah you know i i’m kind of the same way where if i want consistency i go to mcdonald’s i want the flavor that i know and love if i want to try something new i will like uh wendy’s wendy’s has a new breakfast menu and they did a good job with it lots of bacon lots of bacon which is nice when he says good fast food bacon and so they should be the best you can’t get bacon on a mcmuffin what they don’t have it on the menu can you ask for it i’m sure you can you order everything from a freaking screen these days do you think speaking of luddites kill the screens no gods no masters go on nicole do you think there’s a world in which like does mcdonald’s still do breakfast all day yeah so they only started doing all day breakfast in 2000 god was either 15 or 17 i don’t know what to talk about it’s kind of really recent but it was something that people had wanted for a long time but the logistics were such a nightmare and trying to wrangle a thousand franchisees yeah you know to try and be like hey now you got to have the night crew cooking eggs next to the chicken nuggets that’s what i’m asking do you think there’s a world in which that i could make a mcgriddle but with chicken and it could be like they just have that on the menu what or they did they they may have pulled it off but yeah they absolutely just had a chicken mcgriddle’s they may have pulled it off the official menu you don’t see it um google it google it right now chicken okay but yeah that was the thing um i mean people are getting real crazy with the breakfast sandwiches jack in the box did like a waffle based chicken sandwich yeah the chicken mcgriddle the chicken mcgriddles was the only mcgriddles that i supported oh my god because it makes sense that’s the sweet syrup on the spicy chicken this is legit i listen i don’t know the menu in and out the way that i should i don’t it’s like it’s stuck it’s like burned into my head you have this odd like photographic memory sometimes yeah only on fast food menus truly trips me out like like you even remember like the breakdowns of like the the like stuff that goes in and like how do you know this um but this makes sense because it’s like chicken and waffles with the syrup but i want to put an egg on it and then also cheese on it gross gross i hate that for us i hate egg cheese fried chicken fake maple syrup which is weird because i i love garbage i love garbage and there’s something about that that’s terrible this is the first time you’ve called me gross on the podcast and it’s crazy what a weird position to be in you know what’s weird about mcdonald’s breakfast menu what okay so the egg mcmuffin right it’s called an egg mcmuffin but there’s canadian bacon on it okay and then the sausage mcmuffin with egg has all those things uh-huh and then there’s just something called a sausage muffin so if you follow the standard naming conventions sausage mcmuffin just has sausage on it ergo egg mcmuffin should only have egg but no there’s canadian bacon there’s no such thing as a canadian bacon mcmuffin but the reason is because in 1972 they named it the egg mcmuffin that came with canadian bacon so you can’t just erase history and then now the mcgriddles now the mcgriddles there’s no such thing as an egg mcgriddles so you can get you can get a bacon egg and cheese mcgriddles you can get sausage and cheese and girls you can get a sausage mcgriddles there’s no such thing as an egg mcgriddle so in the poll that mcdonald’s posted they said do you prefer a mcgriddle which one the singular mcgriddle does not exist mcdonald’s according to your trademark policies do you prefer a mcgriddle or an egg mcmuffin that was a pulling error because the egg mcmuffin implies the love of canadian bacon and nobody loves canadian bacon especially more than sausage it should have said mcgriddles versus mcmuffin that poll was wrong history is still on my side i am not old the tick tock teens love me and i love them back [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so 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we’ve heard what you and i have to say yeah and now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse okay nicole it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like cancer rolls [Music] that was great i feel like we really caster holes speaking of holes uh you know what i love beaver butthole no i was gonna say the cinnabun delights from taco bell oh my gosh those are like they’re too far from breakfast so that’s a dessert that is the best fast food breakfast item yeah that’s it you know they they did like a it was a fruity pebbles version of that i don’t like that because when you blend fruity pebbles it turns kind of grayish purple green yeah it’s like a greenish tint yeah it’s an upsetting color and they were they were like that color and it reeked of breakfast cereal it was it wasn’t like a great but again they’re they’re out there trying they’re out there trying and that’s all we can hope for is the innovation oh they also have like uh a crunchy up with gravy in it oh yeah the lights will have like crazy yeah yeah it’s like a sausage gravy crunch that doesn’t do it for me i don’t know man gravy crunch i’m kind of into that all right first up we got sorry that username is taken hard pretzel sticks in ranch yeah and then ultimately they say king’s hawaiian rolls in dill dip i’d say i’d say ranch what’s a dill dip dill dip is a product from the grocery store that says dill dip and i know exactly where it is there are it is like nicole you know there’s like always the wall of it’s like weird old-timey candies and nuts from the same company at the grocery store and you’re always like who buys this yeah is it called delish i think so yeah and it’s like their packaging hasn’t been updated since like yeah yeah yeah yeah there’s the same thing that exists but for dips in the grocery store where if you go to the refrigerated dairy section you look deep underneath there’s like nine flavors of dips from a company that hasn’t updated their packaging since the 1980s and they’re all just filled with whipped hydrogenated oil okay and they’re all equal parts delicious and kind of sickening awesome yeah it’s they kind of roll and one of them is called dill dip like they do a french onion dip they’ll do a buffalo dip oh i know exactly where that is it’s in the produce section yeah yeah uh maybe oh yeah yeah i know yeah juice with the dressing adjacent to the dressing you are correct it’s not in the dairy uh yeah because it’s addressing adjacent food but it’s like a dressing but very sturdy from whipped hydrogen oil and that’s dill dip and it’s a delight okay i’m down with pretzel sticks and ranch but i’m more down for king’s hawaiian and dildiff yeah you know what i was thinking about the other day a sandwich that i enjoy tell me this is some poor kid stuff right here this is just white bread with coleslaw and hot sauce that sounds good that’s a great sandwich but you got to fold it you got to fold it yeah you got to fold down correctly you can’t have a foldable sound you want to know why because if because it’ll leak out yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s a delay and that’s what this dill dip with king’s hawaiian rolls reminds me i love dipping king’s hawaiian rolls and anything dude bread i’m telling you good bread break break the yolk between bread and butter and start putting mayonnaise-based dips on your bread love it it’s a delight delicious yeah this is a great opinion the flying dingo says any fountain drink tastes better from a wax paper cup false any fountain drink tastes better from a hard slightly see-through red plastic cup that you’d get pizza hut salad bar in old-time italian restaurants yeah it needs to be plastic i don’t like glass no okay i have a bone to pick with restaurants stop putting glasses everywhere because number one they break yeah number two there and they hurt my teeth number three they’re like they’re you stop eating the glass no i’m not eating it but like the way that i hold like like okay i’m gonna give you an example like see like like yeah you’re eating this and you’re eating the mug why are you teething on the mug to stop chewing the coffee like like this is user error this isn’t design flaw this know jimmy is the fear of me hitting my teeth stops me yes and that’s why i use straws all the time sorry also once at a bar i got like a beer and a glass and there was a bunch of shattered glass in the beer that’s what i’m saying i probably should have made a bigger stink of it than i did they just like gave me that beer for free what anyways point is uh no i actually really hate wax paper cups um sometimes i like being able to kind of crush the cup a little bit to create a spout i appreciate that it tastes good in that yeah or you talking about styrofoam cup no no no no wax wax the wax coated paper cup wax coated paper cup there’s something about it like literally my my my nips are getting hard thinking about the upsetting feeling the upsetting texture of my tongue you have sensitivity i have sensitivities we’ve been discussing that i have various sensitivities i don’t like tags my t-shirts like i don’t like hot rooms do you do unexpected noises scare me i don’t really love balloons do you cut the tags or do you get taggles shirts no no what i do nicole i’m a great question i’m so glad you asked so when you cut a tag sometimes some of it still remains and then my sensitivities are activated so what i like to do is i i just rip it right off i have a great grip what if it makes holes in them yeah then i throw the shirt away and then i try again i’ve chosen you’re wasteful and it or just rock it i just wear shirts with holes and i don’t care okay at denver rose.m bj’s assuming they’re talking about the restaurant and brew house not the sex act i left it in there bj’s is underrated nicole i feel about bj’s i have like negative associations with bj’s you know yeah we all we all do but the pizza in one way i love a good pazuki honey yeah it’s actually pronounced pazuki okay i’m comfortable mansplaining mcquiddles and pazuki got it so yeah bj’s restaurant and brew house is a pretty sizable chain but not like huge huge uh they serve what they call deep dish pizza but it’s not like chicago style deep dish it’s just like a thick focaccia i’m not a big fan i love their dude i took my grandma that was the first restaurant my grandma went to after uh the pandemic oh sweet um and uh yeah it’s it’s a delight i love the pizza it’s just thick it’s ready ryan see pizza hut pan pizza but they’ll do like a buffalo chicken oh thing on it um that said the rest of their food it’s it’s like pretty bad yeah like i i went there once and i had like a gift card and i didn’t want to eat a bunch of pizza that night but i got like calamari and like a chopped salad or something salamaria bj’s you’re adventurous i was it was pretty bad i mean i i don’t know i i do love bj’s like i would gladly go to if somebody presented me with that as like a thing to do for the night they their beers are good they have like a bunch of i’d rather go to yard house yeah yard house is the fun time house yard house stuff like because they got like little ahi tuna tacos a yard of beer yard of beer yeah i don’t know i don’t need a yard of beer i’m fine just drinking my beer and then asking for another beer oh fresh one well you know that’s that’s a perfectly fine night but you’re fine with shattered glass in your beer yeah that was that uh shout out to anyone who went to ucla and braved a bar called maloney’s oh i know there’s no maloney corner next to gucci yeah it hasn’t been called maloney’s in like 30 years but everyone’s so cold yeah they changed it again multiple times it was o’hara’s now it’s rocko’s yeah but yeah last time i went there i think i got like hepatitis f um yeah bj’s rules i like i like that not for me x bad news bears x says pudding is the gravy of the dessert world false that’s chocolate ganache no i think pudding okay here’s the thing good no pudding’s thickened no no pudding pudding pudding is thickened with corn starch a lot of people don’t know the difference between american pudding and a european coustard so what i’m saying that’s literally you make pudding with the same method as you would be but like do you just have okay let’s talk about it like a boudinot which is a pudding right budino is pudding no it’s custard okay next question have you ever had chocolate gravy yes it’s pudding we made oreo grease you cool it and it’s putting let me speak pudding you eat you put pudding in a pie okay put in pie i don’t believe you put putting in pies we literally just i know and i in all i said during that whole thing inside pie was that it’s it’s a it’s like custard it’s like a fudgy custard it’s thickened with egg and starch no no no no i don’t believe it’s a pudding no that’s all right you’re reading one wikipedia entry i’m saying custard i am the authority you know you’re honored i am greater than wikipedia you’re not enjoying someone dumber than me wrote this wikipedia article a boudinot is it cause he got eggs in it right josh so do some puddings i don’t i don’t reckon they do so this is our wrecking pudding’s new look of egg yolk pudding maggie we’ve started heavily relying on making a google thing she’s the best because she’s the best some people put egg yolks into it oh okay marcus okay yeah i’m so stupid um no i think i think i i agree that pudding is good you can put pudding in a glass and then put a little bit of whipped cream on it and present it to someone and they will eat it you can’t do that with gravy nicole look me in the eyes tell me i won’t eat a glass of gravy nicole tell me to my face that i won’t eat the glass of gravy you’ve seen me chug a liter of gravy josh one liter wait you’re an anomaly but think about it like snack packs no one is having packs of gravy like like that i feel like and you wouldn’t just eat a whole thing again exactly danica’s right she wants she’s up to nothing because we didn’t come to any sort of conclusion on our actual debate which supposedly is the whole podcast but uh what was the first one you won the fact that i mansplained and then number two pudding is not gravy all right you have two nothing let me see if i can get a comeback all right at lena fazari green apple gatorade is so delicious and so underrated i don’t know that i ever had green apple gatorade i’ve never been a gatorade person per se because i’m not an athlete big shock but whenever i’m cool you don’t you know you don’t need to like do sport to drink gatorade it’s it’s available for the public they you don’t need to like show a gym membership at the 7-eleven to enjoy let me continue but whenever it like so so my dad had a lot of tummy issues and like we would always have white gatorade because that was the only gatorade he could drink so i had a lot of weight well there’s a couple different types of leaders clear oh gatorade rain no clear was it kind of a milky white it was milky white well there’s a couple because there’s there’s a white cherry and then there was one of the um gatorade cheese what they’re called frost i don’t know but basically my dad can only consume white gatorade so i grew up in a white gatorade household so that’s my favorite flavors no dude they’re melon uh fierce melon and fierce grape the fierce line of gatorades to me were the best since the gatorade frost series with like riptide rush and all that um and then also cool blue i think was a good gatorade innovation that said when gatorade started catering to the latino market i think that is when they really took off because they have lemon pepino or limon yeah cucumber lime they had a sandia they had watermelon gatorade nice really nice and so gatorade’s out there they’re they’re hitting they’re swinging for the fences and they’re making some good products cool okay next uh deonity my husband says waffle fries and seasoned fries are the same honey no what are you talking david what are you talking about no i think he’s saying they taste the same and and there’s actually a reason there’s there’s a reason he’s saying this yes and he’s correct but like it sounds dumb when you say it yeah waffle fries are cut into the shape of a waffle and seasoned fries or fries with seasoning on them he’s saying the flavor profile is the same and if he’s not a great communicator huh oh no how does he do the relationship we’re doing we’re working on it we’re working on it he’s really receptive to my criticism as i am with him he’s an empathetic man he’s so sweet i love him um but yeah i understand what he’s saying here and it makes sense honey good job love you he listens all the time he’ll text us so it’ll be a great podcast thanks david please text us after this one no no so waffle fries and season fries are both likely being dipped in better exactly like a factory and then heavily seasoned with some sort of like paprika garlic peppers yeah yeah i used to buy a product growing up that was called fajita fries and they were like not branded it was cause i i didn’t eat a name-brand food till i was like 15 years old i were all generic everything man we couldn’t afford fruit loops we were doing fruity-o’s that were sold in the nine-pound bags next to the dog food we did that a lot too yeah oh it’s just economical yeah it makes sense it’s great uh so yeah there was some like non-branded frozen french fry sac that came in a 10 pounder called fajita fries they were dunk because they just had that like red coating on it and it was good all right at ep414 i can’t stand people that dictate what condiments belong on a hot dog you do you boo preach preach hot dra hot dog moral neutrality that should have been the name when i said that it’s just a remedy of neutral milk hotel probably like a week and a half ago yeah that came up on my thing no i feel that uh yeah dude put whatever you want on your hot dog man i get if your identity of your city chicago is based off hot dog condiments find a better thing for your city no okay listen you know what i mean no i understand why people have it because it has cultural rev it has cultural relevance and i understand why people are like that but you know what i’m going to do i’m going to put mango salsa and chips on a hot diet and i’m going to love it because i hate mango salsa but the only way i can imagine myself enjoying mango sauce is if i eat it with a hot dog and a bunch of chips crushed somehow i understand that it feels like a venezuelan completo this is why we’re friends this is the way we work i’m the mayonnaise of the hot dogs man i like mayonnaise on my heart some raw cabbage some mayonnaise get me on there raw chopped cabbage mayonnaise okay chop not shredded no very finely chopped very very finely chopped like like kfc cut okay that makes sense yeah okay is it dressed in the mayo no oh raw cabbage but you put enough mayonnaise ketchup and mustard on top which really makes sense this is this is all based off like a colombian uh or early venezuelan style dog yeah and i really really love it seattle dogs dude those are great they’ve got the cream cheese the jalapenos the bacon on it danger dogs made your dog’s the smell of dandruff dude you get the chili toreado with it yeah the grilled jalapeno or a chile uero and then you can kind of like typically tell where the uh where the person making the hot dogs is from man i love that yeah the world of hot dogs is beautiful i can tell you a lot about the city yeah i love your heart it’s just one big organism was that right that was pretty good that was pretty good yeah yeah open your mouth open your hearts shove some hot dogs in there don’t shove a hot dog into your uh aorta you can’t enter the aorte from any orifice if i shove a hot dog deep enough do you know what an aorta is yeah it’s like part of the bent heart it’s the yeah cardio lungs the pulmonary embolus on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handy’s otto with the opinion casserole one more thing before we go every episode of house somebody had a pulmonary embolism well yeah because it just like rounded it out it just sounds so nice like you know how you finish everything with flaky salt you gotta finish it with a pulmonary and a pulmonary embolism and for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your fabulous dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen it was never lupus they’re all but it could be lupus it could be but it never is we’ll see you next time [Music] thanks for listening to this episode of a hot dog as a sandwich and hey before you go we wanted to remind you that season 2 of stevie’s podcast best friend’s back all right is underway this season expands on stevie and nagin’s friendship from last season but explores all new themes and ideas yeah episodes will feature an open conversation with a gynecologist who just happens to be nakeen’s sister the ins and outs of eel sex and a deep dive into the most embarrassing items to be found by security at the airport things get crazy this season so be sure to follow best friends back all right on apple podcast spotify or wherever you get your podcast all right i like that me too all right all right all right