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josh sharer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and nicole we often reference the fact that we are jewish on this podcast ken bless you and someone recently said in a comment i wish you would devote a whole episode to jewish food and so nice of them that is very nice and i think it’s cool we can bring our cultures in one of the problems i think is um i don’t know how knowledgeable i am about jewish culture and food outside of my own experience interesting i think you’re very well versed in like the majority of foods not just limited to juicers i think you’re just like a is there like a word like for a polyglot but for food oh is that polyphage i think that’s how you eat everything i think you’re a polyphage i’m thank you that’s the nicest thing nicole as my best friend thank you so much you heard it here first ladies and gents josh said he’s my best friend finally after how many episodes of this damn podcast we’ve spent 85 85 episodes it took you this long to admit that you’re my best friend thank you so much oh just in the hanukkah giving spirit uh but no today i thought we would you know both rank our top three hanukkah dishes that we grew up eating but for me we were just like you mentioned you were like it’s regular hanukkah edition i was like listen at my family we are reformed jews we uh you know my great aunt who’s at like 85 years old she would get drunk off many shepherds and be like you know jews can be atheists i’m atheist and i’m like oh come on don’t tell me that yeah but yeah of course no because like let me tell you judaism is weird because it’s like you can be culturally and traditionally jewish but not believe in god yeah like like that’s how my dad is like he’s he doesn’t believe in god one ounce not at all total atheist but he’s like are you coming home for shabbat and i’m like yes sir i am yeah i i view it for myself at least as like a shared cultural history right we were all affected by the same things in history we all have the family stories going back and it is in your genetic lineage i i well i recently went to a chabad for the first time for friends bar mitzvah yeah a couple weeks ago and i mostly do you like it it was great they were all just slamming irish whiskey uh and i was like this isn’t the kabad that i remember going to for hebrew school when i was younger and i had a really great time uh the point is all my experiences are based on what i grew up with with my family and a lot of it was divorced from you know a lot of strict religious tradition um so that’s where my point of view is coming from nice so what are your favorite hanukkah foods also should we say wait do you think i remember the hanukkah prayer um you wanted do you think i could do it how much do you guys want to bet that i can do it just to try and i think if you want to try and this is the place to do it do it okay um that was wonderful would you like to eat on hanukkah um well i don’t have necessarily an order but i i can just say my number one favorite thing i don’t want to say my three tell me i have one favorite thing and it’s guilt oh no i heart guilty tell the people about galt nicole guilt is just chocolate coins and then it teaches little kids how to gamble and that’s fun for me did you do you full-on do the game the dreidel gambling game oh of course which is i mean a dreidel it’s gambling die as well it is it is and it’s it’s like i don’t know i don’t remember what gimmel dalet hey i don’t remember what all of those things you don’t want none you want gimel yeah you always want gimmel you also don’t get it for g for gold yeah yeah yeah um i just i just always thought it was fun because you know there was like the bitcoins and then the little coins and then like the little coins had some sort of denomination no matter like where you were and then like you would all like try to hold the big big coins and then it was just fun and then uh megya actually reminded me of this you uh remove the gold and then you put it on your teeth and you have grills so it was like fun everyone you know people are going to say like suffocating uh latkes brisket gefelt of fish i’ve don’t need to felt a fish you don’t need to filter fish no no sugar no no no gefeld i okay so one time i tried gefelt of fish thinking it was gondi gondi is like the persian equivalent of a matzo ball and honey no no no sweet fish ball not very good well gefilte fish technically is a matzo ball that should be the title the episode well i mean it’s a ball of fish that’s mixed with like matzo meal and other uh yeah root vegetables like parsnips and whatever yeah one thing i never got was why ashkenazi people eat matzah other than like passover like why do y’all do that if you’re ever asking a question no i mean i don’t know i think a lot of the questions about what is ashkenazi food first for people don’t know ashkenazi refers to mostly like eastern european jews a lot of cold climate foods yeah when you’re thinking of a lot of jewish deli dishes true um like a lot of the smoked meat that comes from like central european germanic traditions sure uh and then all of the cabbage and the beets and the parsnips all that that just goes to like the only foods you could grow in russia latvia you know lithuania yeah you took the little river fish that were frozen in ice and you packed them in vinegar so they just stayed good nice and then you ate them and that’s how you get dishes like gefilte fish which is like essentially preserved white fish that is just pureed into a delicious fish meatball uh and flavored very lightly a little bit of dill a little bit of carrot thrown in there mm-hmm and i absolutely love garlic you like it i have a drink i don’t like it i’m opening a gefilte fish taco stand i get filter fishery if you will fusing my la roots with my ashkenazi jewish traditions uh-huh deep fry a little like beer batter on that gefilte fish you know do like a little beet salsa chimol i think that’d be a delight josh normally i support your ideas but that sounds absolutely disgusting and i never want that to come into fruition ever yeah i don’t know if the fish is the easiest thing to sell josh what is your favorite or top three or favorite hanukkah food i want to know what you like okay i mean we mentioned rugola which i started pronouncing rugelach my whole life and then i started dating an east coast jew which you know they don’t they say a lot of ha yeah and a lot of it it’s like italian americans right you get like capicola becomes gabagool yeah rugelach becomes regular yeah and it’s a thing uh yiddish thing yeah and i mean uh she comes from a family where you know her mom plays jewish lady mahjong oh yeah which is like a big thing uh watch marvelous mrs maisel if you want any insight into the jewish lady mahjong culture uh and so i defer to her on pronunciation but i mean like roglo is absolutely great it’s the uh kind of like a little pinwheel pastry cookie i don’t know do the goalies have a word for it because they’ll sell it like costco a thing that is ostensibly regular but it’ll be like the word [ ] it like makes me so sad like non-jew is nicer gentile the gentiles the gentiles can also partake in rugela from the costumes of course they can i used to get my regular from the kosher bakery and the ralphs and honey the raspberry i would just eat that up like three at a time like yum yum yum uh other delicious jewish pastries we you uh you’re talking about sufgani oats sukanyat uh well we have it on hanukkah because we love to have fried things on hanukkah and the oil the oil that was supposed to only last for a few for like a day and then ended up extending for eight days miracles after a battle yeah i don’t remember that maccabees to defend yeah did you watch back the the rugrats episode recently i sure did okay and and i watched the disney channel original movie about the basketball team that had a whole allegory to hanukkah the lights in the gym we’re gonna go out the generator wasn’t working nicole in the championship game but then the lights in the hanukkah miracle fashion lasted for four quarters or something and the jewish kids learned self-esteem but uh uh back to stuff it’s a jelly filled doughnut that’s all it is yeah it’s a jelly doughnut that’s it’s a jelly donut you could go to dunkin and have one right now and be like tuscany please i’ll be like what are you talking about donuts a guess i will say though most of kanyot that i’ve had it’s kind of worse jelly doughnut it’s like jelly doughnut from like i would rather go to krispy kreme and get a jelly like regular there’s no comparison for me in the can right it’s this like crusty almost brioche like risen pastry with just like all this melty chocolate in it sometimes you’ll throw the almonds in there regular to me is something that like you can’t really compare on any scale but then you get sufgonio and it’s like oh jelly doughnut but like a little bit bad yeah what about bobka bob bobcat giant oh yeah yeah right pretty much similar so popcorn yeah no let me tell you okay so it’s challah babka rugela guilt that those your favorite no no no no that’s like the line of where oh that’s the evolutionary all right so gelt is like the the homo abolis okay so guilt is just a chocolate coin uh-huh to reiterate oh and then and then rugelach is dough wrapped around the chocolate you don’t have to use also the chocolate and guilt is like so bad yeah can we talk about that for a second it’s the worst quality chocolate probably because it’s parv for those that don’t know what parv means parv means it has no dairy in it so i don’t think it’s is it i mean i don’t know but like maybe it is it could be all i know is it is the worst quality chocolate yeah me and julia keep a stash of hanukkah gel in our we thought it was like a cute thing to do like oh i’m on a little nice snack you know something reminds us of family and all right and you know we took one bite we’re like plastic better when we were kids yeah for sure it’s a nostalgic thing for me i think yeah it is um and then and then it’s rugelach and then babka’s like a big rugelach and then chala is like what bopka is made out of you know what i mean yeah yeah so like that’s the chain of like i feel that yeah does that make sense um i mean khala is like that’s probably my it’s not hanukkah specific food obviously yeah but challah to me is like the king of all breads i think so too i think it’s fantastic just a three braid challah and the three braids are the what three things you gotta do on shabbat oh is that what it is no it is mega you confirm i know what the three things are i don’t know if that is what the three things are i thought i was always told that growing up that there was like a message to the three braided collars lovely if it is the three things that you do is number one you make challah number two you like shabbat candles number three i don’t remember the third one damn it my jewish wife class is one waste of time but my my single favorite thing to do is just to tear into college tear in one of the braids yeah and then you take that hopefully it’s got some sesame seeds on the outside that’s my favorite salt oh you like the salt color it gets too pretzely i want the sweet from the cola and then i take that and i swipe it through chopped chicken liver i don’t know chopped liver is my single favorite ju food yeah y’all that exists that funky funk good stuff your folks don’t do that um not really why not it’s not so what do you do with the liver is it the chicken i don’t know maybe just with no no no no we don’t any organ meats very few organ meats in persian coconut oil you know what it was the weather was hotter so you were just able to raise animals without them dying in the frost oh i think that’s what i traced all of ashkenazi jewish food back to was just like it was cold we tried our best you know what we have to talk about latkes and their accompanying dips yes okay i mean you can’t talk about hanukkah without talking about latkes uh it’s a potato pancake as bobby flay said in his thing where he made latkes and he goes jews call them luck as you know they’re potato pancakes uh no bobby they’re lockers but potato pancake also you can make it with other root vegetables the og latkes were made with cheese several hundred years ago yes i found that out recently what a trip that was and persian latkes are called cuckoo zamani right you don’t know how much you drink yes you’re right [ ] it and nothing brings me more joy than hearing you speak parsley you know it just like truly like makes me happy to hear a white man sweet car see it like warms my soul you would just take so instead of shredding the potatoes we would just like mash them and then add eggs do you cook them and mash them you cook them and mash them yeah i think so it’s been a long i haven’t i’ve never made it my mom makes it i don’t even attempt it um i think you cook the potatoes i think my mom would microwave the potatoes she would mash the potatoes she would add egg salt and pepper and then she would like just you know flatten them out and fry them up we used to have a leftover mashed potatoes with my divorced dad’s house that’s what we do we’d get like the country crack mashed potatoes and little did we know we were making cuckoo zombies look at you but uh i like the shreddy ones more yeah the shirty ones that’s what i grew up on the ones that look very much like a mcdonald’s hashbrown in a way or like denny’s diner style yeah yeah yeah but it’s the egg and the flower and the grated onion that like really makes a latke oh yeah grated onion there’s a lot of grated onions too um what do you dip it in so there’s so there’s applesauce there’s sour cream there is ketchup which is apparently a very very uh point of contention for a lot of people hot sauce love hot sauce and uh what’s another one that we can just throw in there oh uh russian dressing that’s my choice russian drink and i’ll tell you exactly why wait first up we gotta talk about the hot sauce thing because when i went to your house for was it yom kippur i think so when i went to your house for yom kippur oh no you yom kippur is where we don’t eat oh sorry yeah when i went to your house for rosh hashanah and we had like you know 16 people sitting around the table and it was a absolutely beautiful feast the food was all freaking fantastic and then like three bottles of hot sauce started being passed around yeah and like everyone was just hot sauce and can i tell you something that is uh david and id classic david has introduced my family well not really my family but like he has to have like four hot sauces available to him at all times no matter what he’s eating doesn’t matter i love that so do i sushi persian food uh i don’t know any food from anywhere multiple hot sauces that all get passed around that’s that’s a david and nighty original that’s called being part of a diaspora culture yeah because i was i was sitting there and like i don’t know if you noticed i was one i showed up over dressed which is the only time i’ve ever been overdressed to anything oh i showed up with a kippah on with a yamaha affixed to my head with a hair clip oh my god this guy brought in it first of all my house has has yamahas because like we just have like a stack of them from like events and stuff like that this guy comes in clipped to his head a woven philadelphia eagle go birds like a dork with his shirt and it’s just with a tucked in button-down shirt sweet i was like i was trying to impress your parents but it was such like a beautiful like ceremonial meal we’re all reading the prayers and i was like wow this food is sacred it’s beautiful and then david’s like hot sauce i need the hot sauce i just love that okay a lot locker dips lack of dips uh what’s your dip of choice it’s ketchup straight up ketchup you haven’t wavered from that it’s always been how did that start for you um i don’t know like well first of all persians love ketchup persians put ketchup on rice purchase put ketchup on their pizza person puts ketchup on your ketchup like they love ketchup they put ketchup on everything i was never that kid that put ketchup on their rice or ketchup on their pizza but ketchup on on like potatoes i mean french fry yeah no i agree brown i mean latke that was the exact reason i when i was a kid would dip it in ketchup because i had eaten mcdonald’s hash browns i had eaten latkes and i was like same same same same but different but same same same thing and so i would just dip in ketchup but then i was introduced to my birthright joy of applesauce and sour cream do you like it love it i cannot eat latkes without if i want to be a little a little flitty out there i’ll drop a little bit of horseradish in that sour cream that was the sweet applesauce and and i put applesauce and sour cream on each bite of the latke i guess i just don’t like i don’t know maybe sour cream i get maybe okay hear me out sour cream with the hot sauce mixing mix yeah almost like spicy mayo which is my favorite grandma oh my god no no chipotle grandma too much too much bobby flay no no no you just you take the vinegariest hot sauce you got in your cabinet and then you put it with the sour cream like that makes sense applesauce applesauce variation as you think apples grow in the cold it was very cold we did what we could also when apples freeze you just mash them and they turn into applesauce and so there it is thank you for your justification we didn’t have the bounty the russian dressing thing for me though where that comes some people might not know a russian dress russian dressing is if thousand island is ketchup mayonnaise and pickles russian dressing is that plus maybe a little bit of beet juice if you go into the og recipe russian dressing is like chopped bell pepper and onion uh and heinz chili sauce which is a condiment that like barely exists anymore once or twice yeah like beet juice with a sheer but it’s basically just a little bit sweeter a little bit less acidic um thousand island nice uh and the reason i put that on latkes is because one of my favorite things to do is get real drunk and then go to the jewish deli at 2am uh izzy’s in santa monica was my go-to just because it’s 24 hours i’ve been to izzy’s you know do they have the best food no do they have the nicest servers absolutely not no geez they are so mean yeah what’s it called uh weathered yo they are weather worn and yeah yeah and that said you can go there and you can get a chopped liver plate with latkes and a uh reuben sandwich with a side of russian dressing for like 45 dollars black coffee yeah no it’s an expensive expensive yeah that’s the wildest thing it’s not a cheap place no no no but that said you’re like going out in santa monica you want to be by the beach you want to feel nice and cool uh and then when you just need to sober up real fast you go to izzy’s deli and then you’re dipping latkes and russian dressing and that’s how i express my faith nicole that’s my truth i’m glad you expressed your faith in whichever way that you see fit [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home there’s free shipping for the continental u.s and there’s no antibiotics or added hormones plus it’s packed fresh and shipped frozen for convenience so you can 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um uh you like you like cook it for a long time and you put it away and then you come back you can do that with any meat you can do that with oxtail you can do that with oh well i try uh no because in uh cashew law or whatever is that the right term cash yeah uh i don’t know uh back half of the animal’s not kosher yes yes and so brisket comes from the cow titties and so that’s essentially the breast of the cow right if you really want to look at it and so brisket is a popular kosher meat because it’s just the largest muscle cut um in the front half of the animal yeah i totally forgot about that and then i was talking to my grandma and she was like yeah we lived on a farm and we would just chop the animal in half and just like go sell the behind quarters and then save the front half for us oh wow wow that makes sense yeah like maybe that’s why that rule i came to be like the back side of the animal was like to like financially like you know baby that’s so interesting okay i love oh yeah i love breads good jewish brisket fantastic yeah but you know what our brisket it has prunes in it dude wait we put prunes and apricots i put prims in uh my brisket yeah oh wow i don’t know if i follow a very traditional recipe my family wasn’t great at cooking i love you grandma you’re never gonna you don’t know how to access a podcast uh you don’t know how to turn on the am radio in your home um but uh my family wasn’t great cooks and so i didn’t grow up with any like great jewish cooking traditions there were a couple dishes but brisket was one that i thought i hated until i started making myself when i did you know i started putting prunes in there yeah it like it like really helps improve the flavor i’ve seen some recipes that like make like a barbecue sauce to go with it but they use like cola oh weird that’s i mean obviously a very american edition which i think is really cool that that that happens i love brisket it’s like uh like there’s this vietnamese dish called titka uh that is like pork belly that people will stew in uh seven up like mixing seven up with soy sauce yeah yeah and then the sugar from the seven up caramelizes that’s like same thing but the jewish diaspora coca-cola brisket yeah i’m oh you know what we never talked about well i’m still talking about brisket i’m still talking about brisbane right now are there like sort of separations in preparation with like a persian jewish brisket like how do you all cook it what’s that um uh that’s a great question my mom doesn’t make it all the time she makes it sometimes whenever she feels like it is how my mom cooks um so i would say what she does is we don’t use broth we don’t use like beef broth in our food like she just makes it herself yeah i mean you just pour in water in the brisket and let the brisket exactly yeah like we don’t add additional broth to our foods like we don’t do that with our yeah and then um just a real real simple seasoning like salt pepper she might add garlic powder she really wants to and then she adds like a crap ton of like prunes and apricots some wine tomato sauce and stuff like that and she just lets it go that’s like identical to how i do mine oh good yeah i just i i love that the fruit soaking up the beef fat with the tomatoes it’s phenomenal a little bit of sweetness and acid from the wine yeah i i really wanted to impress uh after julie and i started dating for like two months hanukkah rolls around and she was like do you want to come meet my mom um and i was like quick it was great yeah we moved fast that was nice we love each other yeah you know what you know when you know um but uh i came over and i spent like three days preparing this brisket wow you know i mean like like brining it uh well you went all out oh fully went on braised it chilled it skimmed the fat strained the liquid added it back sliced it while it was cold put it back in to reheat so we get clean slices off it um and it was so funny i went over for hanukkah and julia’s mom was like shredding potatoes for latkes and she was like hey can you help me figure out this recipe and she holds like a xerox copy of handwritten notes oh and i’m like what is this incredible she’s like this is a recipe like my friend doris and esther forded me from florida where they were they’re snowbirds that’s lovely and the residue made zero sense whatsoever which is a great metaphor for jewish food traditions oh he’s being passed in like a xerox copy that you can’t read and he’ll be like eight potatoes and like the potatoes she had were these giant like 14 ounce you know so those are bakers and i was like yo let’s just do this by hand uh and i felt really great to be able to go in and just kind of like make latkes by feel it was one of those few moments where i really felt sort of connected to my heritage in a way that’s wonderful you know being able to save a recipe ain’t got to look at anything i’ve made latkes so many times i love them so much that i can just go in and just feel everything out that’s nice taste as you go when’s the last time you lit a hanukkah candle oh it would’ve been that it would have been two years ago yeah uh julia and i maybe tried to do it last year and then we’re like well we’re watching all the body swap movies that we can on netflix so we’re pretty busy with that but next year are you telling me to buy you want to buy you hanukia what you want me to buy you one of the candle holders akiya akiya sentra a hanukiah but i’ve never heard the term hanukiah you have you maggie it’s it’s the candle i am divorced for my roots i was never bar mitzvah we’re going to marry them we’re going to marry them you’re divorced get them back together reconciliation i still don’t have a mezuzah on my door you don’t no all the bad spirits are getting in you don’t have one yet i have to get you one okay don’t worry i’m going to make some calls gotta make some calls this is such jewish mom energy you don’t have a mezuzah i gotta get you one uh how do you feel about pickled herring i don’t feel a thing no difficult herring neither chicken livers chop that chopped stuff nope what is it i one time i went to juice i saw herring and cream yeah creamy creamy and creamed and creamed here’s the thing here’s the thing going back to latvia uh all the fish very small very small very small very small and so what you got to do there’s also a lot of dairy because cows are fat you know they can survive uh so you cream the cows and then you add that to the pickled herring and the vinegar and then you get sour fish swimming and cream sour creamy fish yeah i cannot imagine something anything more disgusting what no hold on hold on hold on you benefit from the ashkenazi preserved fish tradition nicole okay smoked salmon you love luck you love locks i heart locks but if you down with the locks you gotta be down with like smoked sprats and kippered herring okay keep kippered i like i let’s keep it like cooked in vinegar or something like that is fine but like the cream and the vinegar yeah you gotta get down with the cream creamed herring is where it’s at i i grew up uh eating when you went to my family gatherings hanukkah included because with hanukkah we were kind of like let’s throw all the jewish foods we know at the table um and so there would be at least four different just like mashed gray to beige pastes with various garnishes on and then you’d eat them on matzah or gala and it’s like my favorite things it’s nice at least you have like some sort of connection you basically blend the pickled herring into a paste and then you add sieved egg on top oh well it gets worse each each word makes it worse maggie did you grow up with any of that no man maybe it’s just my family nice okay we didn’t talk about kugel kugel i don’t eat again this is an ashkenazi food that i do not necessarily dabble in but maybe once or twice google is bread pudding but with noodles it’s like if bread pudding and mac and cheese kind of had a little baby yeah sugar in it they had to do it through a hole in the sheets jokes or the knox joke there it is no it’s silly it’s like egg noodles uh cream eggs cinnamon sugar raisins yeah and then you bake into a brick you know how people are like oh raisins and potato salad yeah this is not but with noodle in your mac and cheese do you like it at all i like google i do pick out the reasons though i’m gonna make a i’m definitely making a google this year try it this is absolutely happening do you put schmaltz in your google or is that not uh i don’t we just we rock the butter we gotta take the traditions and then schmaltz though is the best flavored cooking fat i just don’t love super savory pickles for me it’s like a very sweet thing i mean all salted we had like cottage cheese to it um that’s a thing but dude just schma schmaltz fried chicken yeah more okay schmaltz for those that don’t know is yiddish for chicken fat yeah and it’s uh with onion right i don’t know flavor with onion yeah really good like cooking oil like save your chicken fat yeah and i mean one of the best jew foods out there is uh gribbiness um i call them juterone so yeah you like it i don’t like it you don’t like it oh you cook the chicken fat in or so you cook chicken skin in the chicken fat and you literally get these like double chicken flavored chicharrones yeah and they are so fantastic yeah i’m going to garnish my gefilte fish tacos with cribbiness that’s going to be the top asked me the crunchy i’m just glad that you get to express yourself with your jew food that’s what i that’s what i’m happy are there any very specific sephardic persian jewish like traditions with hanukkah not really i mean honestly the lot because they’re one the cucumbers one um the gelt uh we have uh guandi which again is like a matzo ball but instead of matzo meal we use chickpea flour and a lot of uh cardamom interesting yes i’ve never had is it sort of you’ve never had i’ve never had gandhi it’s it’s it’s like chicken noodle soup except no noodles and then you put chickpeas in and then you have the balls that float in the in the liquid and then you have it with rice and teddy which is the crispy rice that sounds like a delight i mean i am really good i i love matzo ball soup because it’s it’s a vegetarian meatball it’s a vegan meatball it’s just a bread bowl so good red ball floating in soup and also just a deep dark roasted stock with the fresh dill on it like to me that’s really a delight yeah um and i didn’t you know i’ve gone to delhi’s and like a lot of food to get a deli it’s not great right like you can be able to say that sometimes i think again like the menu is no longer it’s not curated at a jewish deli yeah it’s they got everything they got the crepe lock they got the canisius prep law grip never happened what’s jewish want done do you ever had crep lock no oh my god it’s great yeah it’s just these overcooked like jewish wontons meg you had kreplach yeah it’s overcooked jewish wonton sitting in soup and they kind of just dissolve in your mouth oh no it’s a delight yeah like a crab rangoon uh no but like the softest thing you ever had but you thought it was fried what you fried no no it’s in soup wait meg you search creplock i want to eat krepla yeah oh oh never had it but boy does that look good yeah but see the pictures you’re seeing it looks like it’s gonna have some chew to it cause it looks like pasta but when at the deli they’re not like adding the crepe lock fresh to the soup they’re sitting in a bag and so it just dissolves in your mouth it’s like if you got wonton soup in a can that was canned about 10 15 years ago at the factory that’s what crepelock is at least my experience josh i have one question this has nothing to do with hanukkah food but you’re getting a sandwich at the deli is it uh pastrami or is it corned beef ooh i this is a controversial opinion maybe we should maybe we should make this a podcast idea corned beef versus pastrami find out next time on a corned beef is a hot dog jewish food jewish food wars [Music] hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythical heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew member and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole head over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability all right nicole we’ve heard you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions i like casseroles [Music] do you know how to say that in hebrew no i did not i got kicked out of hebrew school shalom that’s all i got shut up oh all right first up we are at clear to loon 314. hershey’s chocolate is disgusting and tastes like vomit and isn’t worth the sugar you should try guilt you should try gelt that you’ve left in your house for two years and you find it in a cabinet and you’re like oh this looks good and then you open it and then the like it’s like bloomed yeah it’s got the like it’s got the dust on it yeah it’s not dust though that’s just the no no it’s the cocoa that’s the cocoa butter separating from the chocolate no it’s the holy dust that you add to the guilt to imbue it with the powers of the maccabees well that’s what it is and and gelt makes hershey’s just tastes like the finest swiss chocolatier straight up it is literally like the american cheese of chocolate except it doesn’t taste good so much worse it’s still pretty good though like in a pinch it still it reminds me of my childhood and that’s why i love it so much it’s so cute it’s an interactive food yeah it’s an interactive food i like that um ladybird two two two three three says halloween oreos are my fave oreo i know they’re the same as regular but they are different somehow they’re not the same if they’re different yeah i got the orange they got the orange in it and it’s fun it’s fun for the kids i wonder if we blindfolded this person and fed them oreos one of them being the halloween variety one of them being not the halloween variety if they would know the difference you want my problem with anyone who does blindfolded taste tests on the internet what’s that josh you don’t eat blindfolded like the sight matters it simply matters you see the orange that’s fun people we did the flamin hot cheeto uh recipe online everyone was like why did you add why’d you add the food dye it would taste the same with that it’s because people only like it before the food dye it’s bright red it’s fun it’s for fun josh loves airing out his greetings have fun on this podcast cheese and rice uh no my favorite oreos are the uh double stuff no no what’s the gross one it was like it was like pecan pie caramel brittle some nonsense coconut coconut cake caramel yeah oh my god it tastes like just a whole bunch of carrot cake carrot cake carrot cake is terrible ugh that was that was a really bad oreo oreo just call us but i love i love their fun flavors they’re out there they’re having fun they’re doing it the best oreo is the dark chocolate oreo yeah too much chocolate oh golden oreos golden oreos just give me a bunch of nilla wafers and a thing of duncan heinz frosting and that’s the best cream cookie lta bees oh sorry that’s yours ltab says kool-aid should come pre-sweetened huh no um the reason it’s not is because it would be a lot more expensive for kool-aid there are products out there that i mean kool-aid does also make a pre-sweetened version they do yeah it’s just sold in like much bigger tubs and then that that becomes very expensive for them to ship and then you are paying more for that so if you’re buying sugar in bulk like in in the mythical kitchen we have just like a hundred pound tub of sugar yeah but sometimes i just eat i was in there and lick it i know you don’t put my tongue directly on the hundred pound bulk sugar that’s really upsetting sometimes i like to climb in the flour bins yeah i’m a dirty boy that’s fine just don’t lick the sugar anymore they make pre-sweetened kool-aid it’s just way more expensive and so that’s why the packs are so freaking cheap because it’s just food dye and flavor chemicals and then you add your own sugar um i think kool-aid should just be as it is and you can be responsible for your own success and just put your own sugar in i like crystal light i don’t it’s like kool-aid for someone who went to one pilates class one day did you ever like meow like you know those like things they were like oh like drinking water is boring here’s a good way to drink water yeah neo mio is literally crystal light thinned out with a little bit of water oh no i was on the mio train for a while but crystallite is the best powdered drink mixer i don’t do that stuff i don’t like it okay adriana shaw says pizza rolls dipped in sour cream is the only acceptable way to eat pizza rolls uh uh no i don’t know it’s like when people talk about dipping fries and mayonnaise both mayonnaise and sour cream are merely incomplete ranch that’s what it is sure both are components of ranch and when you add the other ranch ingredients to both of those it becomes a better product yeah uh latkes remember how we’re talking about latkes yeah ranch no well we didn’t say we didn’t say that you know what we should do latkes with the ranch powder dude bro ranch cuz i mean why doesn’t anyone just sell like seasoned up latkes like you would like uh the popcorn seasonings just make a bunch of lacquer seasonings yeah no one would buy why no dude there’s gonna be a deluge of jewish hipster food item like tell you we gotta jump into this like jewish like russian jewish ceviche game where we’re making like artisanal kippered herrings with like i don’t know like tin fish is very listen listen tinned fish is very in vogue right now i’m not talking about tinning i’m not talking about titties i’m talking about like a little ceviche stand at the beach you know i’m serving people cream daring but with like one bobby flay ass ingredient in there this guy wants to sell kippers and cream at the beach in santa monica ancho chili creamed herring at the beach josh again normally i love your ideas goldfish right now i need you to just put a lid on it you’re a lot when when when netflix offered to sell the blockbuster and blockbuster said nah we’re the future not netflix and this is your netflix moment nicole thanks a lot ted sarandos and you susan sarandos the wife of dancer no what do we got at ok cowgirl1421 peanut butter mixed with pancake syrup is better is a better way to have a pb and j what the heck i can’t read they like to mix peanut butter the pancake syrup hell yeah that’s great you know what you’ve done you’ve made a better product yeah you’ve just made maple peanut butter that’s great you should sell maple peanut butter yeah that’s that’s awesome you’re really good idea sell that uh before we do it now it’s a race between us and you i’m making it okay it’s either okc owl girl or okay cowgirl like okay cupid owl girl well no i don’t know if they’re from oklahoma city oh i think they’re in oklahoma city owl girl we are on so many we are in like different like different astral planes right you and i are just on two different planets my guy okay tasty curly fries says the satisfaction yeah tasty curly fries says the satisfaction of eating food is based on how much you’ve been depriving yourself of pain wow deep stuff here deep stuff wow um uh uh kind of but like what if you never deprive yourself of anything ever so this is effectively like a rebuttal to hedonism yeah yeah pleasure delay yeah edging this is i’m a fan this is food edging this is food edging is what it is and i think it’s just smart i mean i go uh i was listening to some like bodybuilders at the gym talk and they were like i have one cheat meal a week and i was like i have one cheat meal every meal and i think that’s a good way to go you have one austerity meal you have one like greek yogurt protein fruit or one like cabbage and chicken and then the next meal gets to be like a big old burrito to me that’s how i find balance it’s it’s you depriving yourself of one thing makes the other thing taste better i’ve gone through stretches my entire life i’ve just eaten delicious things for every single meal yeah no it loses its luster you know you need to edge yeah you do it gets boring after a while as long as everything’s safe consenting and ethical you ever heard of too much good stuff too much good stuff what is that again am pm yeah timgis am pm official uh convenience store of edging uh at lazy.guppy the only way to eat raw carrots is with peanut butter wrong ranch nicole you’re up wrong lemon juice never dip carrots and lemon juice no what were you doing with carrots earlier though nicole do you want to tell the class oh yeah so um i went to one pilates class like a big dummy without any sort of preparation and then i pulled my groin so i have to ice it every now and then and then i didn’t want to get go to the other kitchen and get ice so i found a bag of sliced carrots and i used that as my ice pack so nobody eat the carrots yeah but then where did you put the carrots on my groin no no after that you put them on the counter where we were all preparing lunch and v goes oh we got carrots to eat and then i said no don’t no you said no no don’t eat my crotch carrots is what you said neri ten minutes ago you said don’t eat my crotch carrots uh and if you didn’t say don’t that’d be an hr write-up but since you were explicitly saying not to then i think it’s fine i hurt my groin what do you want from me it really does throw away then it is tender no i need to reuse it stop talking about your tender groin go to the show the other one you brought it up you brought it up you brought this up on yourself josh okay orton elena says apple juice is infinitely superior to orange juice i don’t like juice what what the fruit you don’t like juice you drink juice all the time you fraud you absolute liar you goon i don’t have that much juice you drink so you got all the oh you get your little creation juice with the turmeric oh yeah that’s like a vegetable juice oh okay okay keep your story straight yeah i prefer apple juice oh you know what i really like more than cider okay and if it’s you know they say if it’s brown you’re in cider town if it’s yellow you got juice there fella i think bill oakley wrote that joke for the simpsons josh i have to ask you a question never jesus christ honestly i made a really spicy curry for like family meal lunch right before this you got a pwp yeah yeah and it’s just it’s it’s bubbling in the guts okay you want this to be the last one yeah real quick do you know there’s the thing where people have a disorder where they eat food and it ferments in their gut and makes them drunk yeah do you ever think that maybe i have that all the time and i’m just an awesome drunk yes i’m okay i don’t think i’ve ever seen you like dr like drunk oh speaking of holiday party let’s do it oh speaking of which uh when it comes to juice i like like like to have pineapple juice like a chaser oh that’s not yeah i think a little rum and pineapple is nice i don’t like rum why do we even talk why are we best friends it doesn’t make any sense you don’t like rum you don’t like juice oh my god why are we best friends so many reasons one of them being this podcast the only reason being proximity circumstance circumcision employment agreement so we both sign all right one more one more okay go for it uh andrew r horn doritos crushed in cook jasmine rice is delicious that’s called tatig baby this is horrific josh i bet you in a year you’re gonna make me put some sort of chip under rice and say oh make to make doritos daddy don’t say make you i if you want to make dorito tatting on your own volition you may of course on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you wanna hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and hendy’s otherwise the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram i’ll see you next time [Music] thanks for listening to this episode of a hot dog as a sandwich and hey before you go we 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