ramble [Music] welcome to best friends back all right the show where two high school best friends try the best friend thing again i’m stevie wynn levine and i’m nakeen homai fair and today we’re going to be talking about clicks the high school social hierarchy the cafeteria conundrum the other alliteration i do not have written down uh nagin hi good day to you how are you i’m great you want to pause this whole thing we can unpack uh the great that you just delivered and then come back you know okay so in order to record this without interference i kicked my husband out of the other apartment oh because he’s on work calls and i was like i can’t have your loud towering voice in the background of a woman’s podcast well where is he he doesn’t have tiny cars to get in he’s in what area a common area of our building a little work space yeah that’s nice that’s convenient it is really and it’s so well decorated it’s actually a pleasure to be this is what you said to him to convince him to go to the common area it did but i said honey can you wear your air pods there instead of your noise canceling headphones because when he has the noise cancelling headphones it’s like dialed up volume 3x and he’s like well in my interpretation of this oh my god cassie gets on me constantly for that constantly anyway so he i kicked him out but then he left the dog with me and i was really nervous that kashmish would be barking during this because it’s close to his peepee time but he’s oh my god he has scheduled pee-pee times of course what are you talking about i’m sorry city dog yeah oh yeah yeah that’s right um i was gonna ask you before we jump into the um specific clicks and go through clictum who would you say the most popular girl in our grade like popular who is the most popular girl to you well is this popularity based on how well-liked they were or how well-known they were i think not the literal definition but like the high school definition of popular does that make sense yeah i just really resent it that’s fine you can you can resent it but i’m asking because i have a story specifically about who i feel like the most popular girl in school yeah was so i want to see if we align there i think the most popular girl in school was popular girl number one thank you for giving your answer in a full sentence i appreciate that you did that um who is popular girl number one as a reminder we give real people that we discuss fake names because we’re not [ ] okay i considered i considered popular girl number one for that spot because and i want to talk later about specifically the grimsley women’s soccer team because to me a lot of the popular girls were on that soccer team and it was very intimidating that they they were all on that team but that’s not who i was thinking of i was thinking of somebody that was very close to her popular girl number two yes yes that’s exactly what i was thinking of does that does that resonate to you like do you forget that that would be i get it i guess okay i think they i think these two individuals represent different kinds of popular but they were close friends they were friends i’ve been doing a little digging through the back of our senior year yearbook where yeah it’s a bit like end of year like you had a page or quarter page uh collab like photo collage that your families would submit but they would submit and pay for yes and pay for it yeah it was expensive yeah but there were also friend groups that yes things and i was looking through them and i was like that’s ridiculous that’s ridiculous why would friends do that and then i found one of us yeah yeah we were pretty ridiculous we were ridiculous but then i looked at the different groups and i was like oh that helped to me clarify who the real like ride or die friend groups were and oh so you think friendship was paid for ultimately if you paid to advertise your friendship it was real yeah yes yes going back to the second girl that you said was the most popular girl okay so this is why i brought it up i have you’re like the one where you agree with me we’ll just cut out the part where you say the other name first i do agree i i know why you said the name but yeah popular girl number two we went to middle school together i mean we we grew up together and then there was that classic like oh our best friend’s in middle school and then as soon as we get to this big public high school she you know sets her sights on on being the most popular girl in school at least i think that’s how it happened and i set my sights on not being the most popular girl in school so are you saying that because you think that like if you had set your sights on it you could have also achieved a similar level of i don’t know what she achieved ultimately and we can get to this because this particular girl i think had a little bit of that mean girl like there’s a there’s that mean girl popularity and of course she was beautiful and you know i think that people wanted to be around her because she wielded this like power popularity power um and like i said i was arguably best friends with her in in middle school and then had this this big change where we no longer were really friends and i think it’s also because there was that sense of meanness that i didn’t like um but i wanted to tell you just a little just a little story before we start because this is a story that is in my core gay memory oh oh oh yeah yeah yeah okay so you remember that game that we’d play i guess it was around middle school time where essentially like one person closes their eyes and they put out their arm like straight out oh yes you know what i’m saying and then yeah the other person like very lightly uses two fingers i i mean that’s what i love that thing i love just it just happened to be two fingers and um yeah and they lightly bring it up your arm and then you’d say stop when you thought they’d got to like the crease of your elbow and then every time you’d like look and the crazy thing is is that when your eyes are closed you’re not looking it feels like they’re at the crease of your elbow and in reality they’re like three inches down your arm and so the game was like how close can you yell stop when it gets to the actual crease right um so this was something that we did girls did in middle school i don’t think the guys were doing this in middle school and i remember very distinctly she was hanging out at my house and we were sitting there and she took her hand and like put it at my knee but like interior thigh knee area and she started going up and she said tell me to like tell me to stop when uh you’re making i’m making you feel too uncomfortable i can’t remember how she phrased it it was essentially like it was almost like i dare you to tell me to stop if that makes sense like put yourself in the mind of like oh my god a 12 year old 13 year old and of course like in that mindset you’re like one okay is this a challenge in which case i’m not gonna say stop because like that’s the point is that like oh you want to see how brave i am um i don’t remember the ending to that particular story but do you remember that i’m sorry you only did it you only remember the beginning you don’t remember how far things went i think i wound up saying stop at like the mid thigh area and then like because you were like it felt like the giggly crease of your arm yes that’s exactly what i was thinking about was the middle crease of my arm no other middle creases so why are you bringing the story up and i just thought it was fun i’m surprised you didn’t bring it up in a later episode of coming out with stevie levine well i mean i do feel like that episode well okay i said it was a core gay memory i don’t think it was like a memory that like made me gay or like you know like i think it’s just like a memory that i have of arguably the most popular girl in our high school and that yeah so that if you remember that was the connection at the top yeah yeah yeah but then you went back in time yeah so just to give everyone like a sense of you know my relationship with the most popular girl in high school um anyway uh do you remember do you remember was there like any event that had you two going in separate ways like the first day of school i mean i don’t i think it was just i think that she made the effort to be popular and i just did it that wasn’t my motive like it was this school is so new i mean like i told you last episode we had 12 kids in our class and then we had 500 or i had 500 and so it was like like this is beyond different how do i survive and you know and i think her her mentality was this is different how do i rule um so i think that was it but it’s you know when when we go back to kind of the first day of school or like freshman year in this this big public school um you know one of the places that clicks kind of dominate is like lunchtime right that’s you know that’s where everyone stays in their group and i think for us at grimsley the grove uh which was essentially like the quad or like the you know the the courtyard of our yeah the large courtyard in between you know multiple buildings and there were picnic tables and it was also where uh you’d gather like at the top of the day it was really anxiety-inducing because the bell would ring for lunch and i think we had one or two like two different periods for lunch because everyone in our school couldn’t fit at the same time and even within one period there was not space for everyone inside there was a cafeteria where you where you could sit um and then there was a group and i think actually cafe lunch time was a great reflection of how segregated our school could be because we didn’t sit in the cafeteria yeah you sat in the cafeteria to get lunch to buy lunch from school um until you’ve bought lunch from school and sat in the cafeteria or you brought it yourself or went off campus if you were older but it was like the bell would ring and there was a mad dash to get a picnic table to get like a few square inches of space yeah well and you also knew very specifically where different groups were sitting i i remember another awkward freshman year story the grove was so anxiety-inducing at that stage that i that’s when i got glasses no that’s when i got contacts for the first time because i had glasses the reason i had glasses is because i couldn’t see the board i was getting headaches uh you know trying to see the board so i’d just gotten glasses and then i didn’t have contacts so i would put the glasses on to look at the uh chalkboard or on chalkboard yeah um and i was embarrassed i did not want to wear glasses all the time so i got contacts but the motive of me getting contacts was because i couldn’t see where my friends were when i’d enter into the grove yes did you one time like sit at the wrong table dude my heart rate was at an all-time high entering into the grove and like it felt like for some reason everyone was staring at you even though no one was and no one really cared but it was like we were the main character of all our own stories and meanwhile we were like not even like a background actor yeah well okay so that’s one of the things that i do want to talk about is is what click we we were in but this kind of lunchtime map immediately reminds me of mean girls because there’s that scene where um she’s orienting lindsay lohan’s character of like this is north shore high and here are all the clicks and she has this like hand-drawn map of uh the lunch area and so this is the list that she says um you got your freshman rotc guys preps jv jocks asian nerds cool asians varsity jocks unfriendly black hotties girls who eat their feelings girls who don’t eat anything desperate wannabes burnouts sexually active band geeks the greatest people you will ever meet and the worst beware of the plastics and so the greatest people you ever meet is obviously um her janitor her friend jan is that her name janice yes oh gosh man i hate myself right now and they’re like the the i guess you’d call them the art kids and by the way um you recited all of this from memory yeah honestly i bet to an extent i totally could have i love meeting girls mean girls came out 2004 so that was smack in the middle of our um high school experience now i don’t think it’s that far off i think it’s comedically punched up obviously but i mean how do you feel like this list compares to grimsley i think that it’s an extreme it’s an extreme i think grimsley was pretty fluid but had some i think i would add like the cool christians yeah well okay like yeah or like the the hot the hot jocks i think i feel like popularity at grimsley had a lot to do with how much how long you knew people and so and i think because of that people were also i didn’t think grimsley had a lot of like the the mean like a extreme meanness that you’ll see in a high school or another and a in a mean girls okay okay okay i see what you mean like it’s not like oh she’s the mean girl like there was no regina george of grimsley but arguably they’re versions they’re shades they’re shades of regina shades of regina there were shades of all of these people but i just felt like god i don’t know what it is i feel like looking back now when i think of people that were being kind of mean or snobby i think they were snobby people it all was like oh god those people were just so insecure oh 1 000 so insecure and so when i look at them now i i’m not like oh you were so mean i’m like oh you were so you were so insecure i do feel like they’re covering up insecurity but it was a implication of putting the putting others down in order to put yourself oh yeah you know so yeah there were consequences for sure and i feel like classically that was the jocks uh you know popular kids like uh group that had that about them like that’s what i i understand that there was no regina george but there certainly was a hierarchy and you know we listed two of the most popular girls and that was like the top tier of popularity yeah and they were uh you know one of them was was on the women’s soccer team and then the other one was uh dating whatever most popular quarterback there was like that that was the thing right it was affiliation with with sports yeah yeah well and to say the the most popular guy was was the quarterback like in that classic way like it wasn’t you know like oh surprisingly this right you guy and band is the most popular guy aren’t we really doing things differently it was like no the most popular guys quarterback yeah yeah so i have our senior year yearbook here because i wanted to i looked at the homecoming and the prom spreads because i i do feel like you know when you think of popularity uh that’s a good reference so i wanted to show you some stuff that i found in there but i asked you to bring your senior year yearbook as well so i’m going to have you flip to some pages i’m going to read some excerpts that i think are are pretty great for those of you following at home this is the whirly gig from 2006. please what page should everyone turn to everyone turn to the homecoming spread which if you don’t have it memorized is on page 18 oh early of course the title of the page is falling in love homecoming court uh i will note so you know we’ll i i’m sure we’ll we’ll put this somewhere so you you guys can see it but well no we won’t that was a blatant line we can’t show this whatever you’ll imagine it i’m gonna use it yeah so um so essentially it is images of everyone on the homecoming court so that’s about that’s a dozen couples not couples well yeah couples a dozen women and a dozen men as their dates yeah and nagin is on this page um as is our uh our other friend in the trio it says a dance a football game and a beauty pageant what could be better each year the 12 most driven and influential girls are nominated for homecoming queen this year the crown went to popular girl number three with popular girl number four and lucinda melvin as runners-up which now that i read this popular girl number three this is a [ ] bomb i cannot recall she was the [ ] bomb she was the epitome of like she was so gorgeous she was looking so kind she was a like all-around what group was she in though she because she wasn’t friends with the popular girls that we listed was she or was she popular girls that we listed were white girls and i think everyone in their group was and so this is presenting i’m realizing like i mean you know i hate to say it but yeah it was a pretty segregated place i mean she was a popular girl yeah maybe maybe what we what we realize is that there are different kinds of popular girls i don’t know well i will say the runner-ups are one our friend in our trio and two a girl on the soccer team so we’re not far off from our perception but yes they’re they’re it was it was extremely segregated now you are on this page i will point out that all of the women on this page are wearing uh okay suits this wearing um dress suits is that what you call a dresser screwdriver i [ ] remember we were all required to look like hillary clinton in these photos it was a requirement they said we wear a skirt suit do you see anybody oh i see one girl wearing a cool like uh uh what do you call this i’m not saying anything that’s cool no popular girl number five another girl on the soccer team another girl on the soccer team but i think the suit was like either from diller’s tj maxx one of these places because like which 17 year old had a skirt suit in their closet and i’m wearing this pink and black uh tweed it looks like you’re also maybe wearing some pantyhose no those are bare legs those are smooth those are just silky smooth bare legs oh gosh and my date man do i have oh we’ll save that for the uh for the school dance episode little tease there you know what the big tragedy of that year was that the pope died the huge tragedy that for homecoming they would normally put all the girls in and convertibles and ride them around the football or right here on the track at a football game and they couldn’t do it all year i don’t remember why cars broke that year cars wouldn’t work so unfortunately they had to skip it okay so one of the girls on the homecoming court um has an awesome uh story one because i somewhat know her present day as do you also if you turn to page 33 wow the design of the page numbers in this thing 33 yes you will see time of our lives prom 2006 is a night that can only be explained through the pictures of dinner at a fancy restaurant guys in suits and girls in the most gorgeous dresses that they could find after finding a date the process of choosing a tire begins starting hours maybe even days in advance for the dance the girls feel the rush as they try to get their nails hair and makeup done it is so important for these girls to look absolutely stunning for their dates and have all the necessary accessories to match that perfect dress that they’ve been waiting forever to wear why is this well all i can say is this was written by our peers yeah exactly so we have them to thank for it no formal written by credits uh in any of these articles but it says this dance is so special not only because it’s so formal and everyone gets a chance to shine in amazing outfits but also because this is the first time ever that grimsley has had a prom king and queen which is crazy the first ever prom king was there’s no one prom king okay you don’t remember prom king dude i can’t remember so many things uh and prom queen the best girl you’ll ever meet okay so love her yeah so that’s who i referenced who was always on always on who was also on the homecoming court the best girl you’ll ever meet was a uh was on the soccer team she was uh i had she was on the soccer team with me growing up and she is now a proudly out gay woman with a wife and a baby and a baby awesome designer and she actually designed the um ear biscuits logo so well 80 are her name and then you can dive in and see if yeah yeah yeah i didn’t know that yeah i had reached out to her way back when to uh when air biscuits first started in 2013 um because i saw that she she went into design and we’ve kept that logo ever since but it’s such a great example of yes confirming that you know the soccer players were were the popular girls now i don’t know if you know this in gay for folklore but women who play soccer uh there’s a high percentage of women who play soccer that are queer um and that connection i did not make uh at the time and i also don’t think that that team i don’t think a lot of those girls are well at least haven’t come out uh but but it’s so interesting because the best girl you’ll ever meet was the the first prom queen of um of grimsley she’s on the homecoming court she was on the the soccer team and she’s also openly gay and she and i briefly connected about man how different things would have been if we had known yeah we had just come out to each other and i think it’s a perfect see here’s another reason why i am proud that we went to grimsley high school the most the person because prom prom king and queen these are elected positions right perfect example of how like people chose the person who they thought was the best yeah and she was sh she is she was then she is now an awesome freaking person yeah and so it wasn’t no mean girl in her no me no mean girl [Music] i found this cool study from 2018 it’s from the journal of adolescent research um and it it comes from a series of focus groups that researchers conducted with recently graduated and ethnically diverse students who were born between 1990 and 97. i have all this memorized as well um they asked their focus talking about people that are born after we were 80 87 similar similar time period um to write down the various clicks that existed at their schools and then try to agree upon common groups that existed at all of the schools but like that 90 to 97 range like that’s a pretty that’s like almost a decade of of of people there um and the students identified 12 general crowds in modern high schools okay here are the crowds which are less comedically punched up and therefore i feel like more accurate to our experience but populars jocks floaters good ats fine arts brains normals druggy stoners emo goths anime manga kids and loners wow yeah i mean that feels pretty good with some concentric circles for sure um i feel like that’s yeah that’s a good representation and you know you can look at a movie like greece or like even going from greece to a john hughes movie to a mean girls there’s there’s consistent clicks that everybody’s aware of that kind of hits all of them we’re not talking about the greasers anymore but um but you know it’s there were jocks uh in the 50s there are jocks now these are the general groups that people find themselves in so the question is what group were we in in high school i mean when you i i feel like there are a few different groups that you mentioned that i was like maybe i was a little bit part of all of those i generally felt individually like a bit of a floater i felt like i had friends in a lot of these different groups i felt closest to you and lucinda melvin probably but i always felt like never in the like that was just a small friend group but in terms of a larger click i never felt comfortable in any one place yes and i think to this day i’m like that i think that’s very accurate well because you know speaking of popularity you were the president uh for i don’t even know how many years you were the last number lots of lots of uh you have to have at least some form of popularity so that makes sense to me that you were the you are the actual literal definition of popular and that you knew a lot of people in in various different groups i knew a lot of people but i couldn’t pretend no no no i did no i totally i knew a lot of people i felt like i had a lot of friends i find my social experience in high school strange because i felt like i naturally had a lot of like connective tissue with people um but i wasn’t really allowed to explore my social potential or social being in many ways because my parents limited me they were really strict yeah so in the traditional ways that people would nurture friendship i felt like i could do it with you because my parents trusted your parents and liked the way they raised you and liked you a lot they’re one or two other friends that they what they felt comfortable having me spend time with but it’s not like i was allowed to go out to parties or even go to sporting events without asking permission and like all of your stuff and so i felt like the people that i could be in class with that i could be in clubs with uh and who my parents seemed to like that’s who i got to reinforce my friendships with and i got lucky in that you were a person that i would have naturally wanted to do with do that with anyway like you weren’t a friend that i had to like great right i didn’t have to negotiate with my parents to spend time with you but yeah but wouldn’t you say that arguably because we also were so focused on getting into a good university and like getting a’s and like and you were the the salutatorian of our school so like don’t you think i mean i remember my second best i remember [Music] uh our lives being dominated by homework at least monday through friday so there wasn’t really yes time to you know and then on top of that whatever extra extra curricular activities so like it wasn’t like you were like you know man i have all this time that i’d like to fill but i’ll just sit here in my room alone right right i i think that was a big one it’s like who do you who you spend your time with who you become friends with are these people that are spending their time similarly and i think you’re totally right that we were very academically focused and grimsley was but a stepping stone okay see i i okay you are totally a floater like yes i totally see that for you i think i was so scared or like extremely insecure i think i was so scared of new things and new people and judgment and myself and you know this new world and not knowing exactly who i was that my tendency was to stay almost to stay introverted but i’m not necessarily an introvert so like it was to stay with a very small group of people and it just so happened you know in the in the the trio that you referenced you and i and lucinda melvin were the core of that but i would say you know where that trio fell was kind of in either like preps what you would call preps or like i would say second to third tier popularity group like you know it wasn’t that the two popular girls that we talked about earlier weren’t sitting you know a couple tables away from us because they were but we weren’t necessarily sitting at their table but we were adjacent to does that make sense like is that fair yeah because i also keep in mind lucinda melvin was the head cheerleader and you were the president of the school i was neither of those things i don’t have something to uh call myself in that way other than uh closeted gay you know hey you weren’t you worked at build-a-bear you kind of that’s right build me up yeah i need it i need a good confidence boost um but you know like i never thought like you never to me struck me as somebody who even cared about what people thought about you which is so funny because even like my double pop collar like contacts in the grove like definite hairstyle moments not saying that’s not gone but yeah i didn’t think you really cared about what people thought so you’re saying that i was like super cool and you were always like oh my god she was just like effortless it was effortless for you it’s my coolest friend by far you know i just felt i just do you ever do you ever feel like other people just don’t get it i’m not even kidding i mean i really sometimes felt that not in the other people aren’t cool and were actually cool but i just i think maybe my so when we went into freshman year my sister went into her freshman year at duke yeah and so and we were oh yeah good stories there okay and for those of you who don’t know duke is in durham and is about like an hour away from greensboro and so i was able to go regularly visit her and stay overnight and i was through her exposed to a lot in terms of like people lots of different people [Laughter] and i don’t know i think that that was great for me because it gave me this like okay it’s not just high school there’s a whole world out there this is yeah when i say this is but a stepping stone it really felt like just something that we did on the way to something bigger that makes so much sense because i don’t think i really had that despite going to duke with you that one that one specific time and then obviously not any we’ll talk about that later but that sounds amazing i could have used that because i think that my you know i think people have like their eras in which they feel like they peaked or it was their best time mine is adulthood it was not you know it was not high school it was not college it was arguably now it was like out of school and i do feel like uh the world felt so small in high school and you felt like it’s these people or it’s nobody and there’s and also keep in mind like i said that myspace started you know when we were in high school but like i you know those were kind of weird kids that were uh actually you know had friends that lived elsewhere and it was like creepy and scary and my sister was certainly uh one of those kids and it’s interesting because when she kind of looks back at high school and puts me in in a place she’s like oh you were one of the popular kids and i’m like you don’t oh you didn’t know me you didn’t know the reality of our of our situation because she wasn’t obviously in our grade or anything right she definitely hung out with the but from afar yeah from afar it was it it seemed as if we were in a popular group but i would say we were second or third tier i find it so sad i find it so sad to talk about popular to talk about your social standing i mean a hierarchy inherent to an hierarchy is that there is like a top there’s yeah there’s a benchmark uh and i i just find that so freaking sad that we’re like comparing ourselves i mean isn’t that how everything works though like even at mythical there are clicks here right like it could be the entire post team they call themselves posts as people too uh but they like have you know this connection with each other and they hang out together or like there’s a group of people who really like to talk about gilmore girls and go in depth into gilmore girls or like you’ll always see you know um the the the mythical kitchen uh kids hanging out with each other and hanging out with certain people again all of this is like people’s interest like the group is enforced by your interest yes now i wouldn’t say that there’s like a hierarchy but counter point to the point i just made there’s an org chart because that is how companies function um so for me like it’s funny because there was a period of time where i felt very much on an island in terms of my current day click because essentially it’s rhett and link and then it was me and then it was everybody else and then now it’s evolved so it’s rhett and link it’s me and our ceo and then we have a handful of vp so you are back to being two to three degrees removed from me no but in in in reality it felt so isolating [Music] not being you know we can talk about my relationship with with rhett and link but like to work with people who have been best friends for nearly 40 years and to be the right hand to two people you know it’s very it’s rhett and link it’s not rhett and lincoln stevie you know it’s rhett ampersand link so you know my click in comparison to them sure you could sure you could click us together in a lot of ways but like you know it felt very isolating being not part of rhett and link and then the boss of everybody else and now you know honestly having the coo as as which sounds so ridiculous um feels like okay i’m not on this island by myself and having having you know that camaraderie professionally but certainly there are clicks that exist in in every day and the question is if your company had to make a yearbook page who would pay to have you in their ad whichever first sponsor comes on board for best friends back all right [Music] okay so there there there are the groups that are defined by their interests the way they spend their time and then there are the groups perhaps that are defined by the way they behave towards others and i don’t think that’s a perfect distinct it’s not a perfect distinction but when i think about the plastics as being very much like interests were around exclusivity and parties and fashion and attractiveness and sexual activity and then sexual activity and then i think about what i think cool looks like now um and today’s high school which is like inclusivity how do you how do you move away from making people feel less than or different um or is it is that reality though i don’t know if that’s the reality yeah that’s what i think yeah really [ ] cool is the person yeah that is incredibly attractive has a lot going for them and is and is regularly thinking about how to include others that and who is wholly themselves and there is not that insecurity you know what i mean like or or they have the insecurity but they are but they are not using that as a excuse doesn’t mean manifest itself yeah in negative ways yeah and are you talking about a high schooler right now are you talking about like anybody look i think i’m talking about my life now [Laughter] are you are you in a clique now do you feel like i mean using my example of just like mythical as a click because well right now i’m i i have no professional clique because i am work i i left minerva i left a place where there were social social groups a university um and now i’m working on my own so actually i’m in my own clique which is a really sad place i do not like being on my own all the time i need i need reinforcement from others which is part of the reason why i’m so excited to have you to talk to every week oh you want me to reinforce you [Laughter] because i just need like i am a much more interesting person and a much more comfortable person with myself when i’m interacting with others it’s interesting because given the pandemic period of time where people kind of were forced to isolate themselves and not hang out with people and and people have varying different stances right now on how they want to interact with people and what makes them safe or whatever i told you when we had dinner the other week like it was the first time i’d been out to dinner and in so long so like just having a conversation with someone that’s not work-related or is not cassie is very different i i i totally agree that like i’m looking forward to this podcast being a place to have a conversation and to selfishly have a conversation about us which i also feel like isn’t something that happens regularly and i’m hoping that the relatability of the things that we’re talking about resonate with people and people are able to go oh yeah i was you know in this clique i i wish that’s another question do you wish that you were in another clique looking back at high school no no i felt like maybe i wish there were more other people at our school yeah yeah but i don’t feel like there are other people at our school that i wish we hung out with more i’m not concerned i’m concerned that i didn’t know people i should know but partially like you know what i mean like i i um i wouldn’t reverse time and go oh man i you know would want to change you know where we were but i do there’s questions that i have about like oh if i had if i had reached out to people that felt a little bit different to me maybe they wouldn’t have felt so different um okay before we wrap things up for this week i conducted an interesting social experiment that i’m quite proud of myself for doing but i tweeted on my personal account at stevie wv in little plug um and i said i asked people to reply with what click or social group they were in during high school and then i had my assistant uh she compiled a list of data in an excel spreadsheet with uh percentages of the association your president just jesus because i was really curious to see how many [Applause] of what i will call our our listeners and friends like what what groups they fell into i felt like this would be representative of that if i tweeted this and when laura compiled all the data i believe she only had she had 328 replies so that’s what this data is based off of this morning i woke up and there are over 1200 12 over wows replies and they’re still coming in i’m dying so i kind of had yeah so i could i i had preconceived notions of what the answer would be and i feel like this like one-fourth you know grouping is is probably representative of all 1200 um just based on like the vibes i think we give off at mythical the community that we’ve um created and in my mind i thought it was gonna be theater nerds like i thought that would be the number one group um or people that didn’t really fall into one particular category yeah um because we do some weird [ ] like mythical’s weird we we that’s what we do wow drum roll drum roll the number one group with over 17 percent is banned people banned ban group i don’t i don’t want to say brilliant musicians nerds musicians well banned you know banned and i understand they are musicians jesus um which i thought was interesting number two is the theater nerds at just over 13 number three is just the general nerds and geeks then we have choir then the loners no click then punk’s emo’s goth inbetweeners floaters sports jocks academics gay which i guess just gay is a click and stoners and then the percentages you know fall after that um wow it sounds like i need to i need to brush up on my piano so i can cater to the band the band people open i mean but is this not does this not this when i saw this i was like this is who i am i’m a little bit of theater i’m a little bit of nerd i’m a little bit of loner i wanted to be emo well stevie this makes complete sense these are your followers well this is not mythical followers this is specific i think they’re probably one and the same okay fine you’re invalidating my entire data set no i think what i’m seeing is that this is reinforcing that the people that follow you are exactly the right people no i agree except for the person who said can’t wait to not listen when i answer the podcast um but other than that uh yeah we have a i think i have a great group of you have followers and mythical has a great group of mythical beasts and uh well if you looked at my twitter followers or my instagram followers it would be like 100 family [Laughter] you’re like you do a little poll and you’re like what house did you grow up in yours [Laughter] all right guys thanks for listening to best friends back all right you can catch brand new episodes every friday make sure to follow so you don’t miss an episode and if you’re enjoying the podcast leave us a review if you’re not you can just not go have a snack you can also follow at mythicalpods on tiktok for clips to share with family and friends you can follow me at nakeen and stevie everywhere at stevie w levine and of course you can hear me every monday through friday on good mythical morning with rhett and link at youtube.com goodmythicalmorning and i will see you there