foreign [Music] welcome to best friends back all right the show where two High School best friends try the best friend thing again I’m Stevie Wynn Levine and I’m naking homafide and today oh yeah it’s spooky season guys we are just a few days from Halloween the countdown Begins the countdown begins we’re at mythicon we’re so excited to meet many of you um some of you could be flying on a plane right now to come to mythicon somebody’s driving that’s okay you can enjoy driving as well you could be on a train a bus any of those things uh for those of you who are not coming to mythcon we still love you and this podcast is still for you because we’re trying to get you into the spooky creepy mood of the Season by talking about some of our fears today yeah in a happy way I will say I felt like in in thinking about what we were going to talk what I was going to share today about fears I felt like well I feel like this whole show has been about me sharing my fears yeah in some way or the other so like what else what else can I share yeah what else can you dig in on and can I answer myself yeah yeah like we’ve talked about the bears oh rats yeah we’ve talked about like you know fear of appointing parents and all sorts of fears so I’m excited to hear what you’re from bears to rats to parents I’m excited to hear like what you were able to bring bring to the fore but how was your weekend before we get into that okay yeah so I was gonna say well what I’ve been doing all week is I have uh my notes app open and I’ve just been jotting down things as they come to me that I’m that I’m afraid of and the list is long okay I feel like that’s a really difficult bad exercise to do for like your mental health yeah you have hated on me for talking about the Gaylord theory for too long so I wanna I wanna rest assured today we will not be talking about Taylor Swift or camping out on anything and plus by the time this is out she’ll already be out so it’s fine but I had a a bfba related weekend in some ways because guess who was in town Lucinda Melvin oh my God oh my God fears art school boy oh yes God how is he College I think or like it’s been a minute and um do you guys keep in touch not really no okay and and his um sister I guess moved to LA and so he texted midweek and was like I’m gonna be in L.A and so I was like let’s get brunch and he was like yes that’s the most uh important gay meal of the day which I agree um and so we uh we we had had a time together but the fear that was unlocked for me is that he insisted at the end of my kind of like East Side parade of brunch and drink places that he wanted to go um and I’ll leave it a little bit loose I don’t want to name anything but he wanted to go to a West Hollywood restaurant bar that has been featured on a reality TV show that I have not seen a second of in my entire life and did he want to go to see oh you’re guessing you’re guessing after I said I wasn’t sure yeah is he into like Vanderpump Rules okay yes Nails it nailed it and so Arts good boy I missed you I find myself like you know not forced force is too strong of a word but kind of forced to go at the end of this long day to this bar with him I am terrified of the West Side I’m terrified of West Hollywood I hate it I don’t know why there’s something that I really hate about it I’m terrified of like just the situation I was in at this particular like reality show restaurant bar unlocked this like deep-seated fear I have of going west of like La Brea or Fairfax like there’s a line for me where I’m okay and then I cross over to the other side of LA and I I become frightened of everything yeah is it like the way people dress is it the way it’s a different yeah it’s a different vibe it’s just a different like scene where where weight is given to things that I don’t give weight to that paired with having consumed a lot of alcohol I think really escalated things I just felt like out of my you know out of my general area yes yes well did he did he like it unclear he did see two celebrities at one of the East Side places that I also had no idea who they were so I felt like I’m doing my duty of like bringing you to places where you see celebrities that you right you like I also brought him to um a gay leather bar which I also felt like I was giving you know yeah but in the end it was I was left with the the fear of the West side so I put west side down on my my notes app oh my God so that’s if any indication of the type of views we’re going to be going through today we can cross West Side off the off the list man my well my my weekend also brought up some fears but this this fear has to do with um a future conversation that I have some uh anxiety about having and that’s the conversation I think lots of people might have you know fear of having which is talking to your kids about where babies come from oh this is like a real future conversation we’re thinking yeah yeah this is future this is I’m always thinking 10 steps ahead right 10 seconds sure yeah so I was having dinner at my um at my sister’s place and and her and her children her two nieces that are four years old we’re sitting I actually did a lot of skin to skin when they were born and so I feel very bonded with them so sometimes they’re just my kids and her yeses I’m glad the skin to skin happened when they were born continue yes okay so somehow this question came up of like oh where do babies come from and I I was kind of like oh haha this will be so cute to see them like think about it for the first time uh and no these girls had a tight answer they had a tight answer they said when spam meets egg I’m confused you ask them where babies came from yeah I asked them it made sense in the conversation chaos that you’re inserting into your sister’s life is asking at the dinner table where babies come from let me remind you my sister Dr Nas loves to talk about the vagina loves to talk about the woman’s reproductive systems this is normal past the vagina yeah yeah so it’s like where do babies come from cute cute little story and in their little English American accent they said when sperm meets egg they have a they have a British accent yeah their dad’s English and they have one I have one yeah that’s like when kids have um Peppa the Pig English accents from watching the show like they just like absorbed it from they absorb it they absorb okay yeah all right have you ever heard a clearer answer for how that’s pretty sure are made sperm meets eggs yeah I had to I mean I did a double take one because I wasn’t expecting the biological like the real answer why one and then I I mean apparently this is something that they just had asked their mom and dad the other day and so kudos to my sister and and her husband they just they gave them the facts yeah and that was it did you expect anything less I mean they’re gonna have to ask about waxing soon and we know your sister knows some answers about that soon I know my sister’s gonna give him a certification five years old it kind of sounds like the tagline for a movie like when when sperm meets eggs you know um and also they could have worked on like inserting the R into sperm so that would be a good note because you said yes and I feel like if they could work on sperm so when you go back for dinner the next time and you ask again just back and forth on sperm yeah sperm not spam spam yeah I don’t remember getting the baby talk or the sex talk or anything like that from my parents no but I just know that people have horror stories from it and it’s like tons of misinformation there’s no stork there’s no store there’s nobody and how would that be comfortable like that sounds terrifying as a little child if you’re like well actually a giant bird flew you in like okay I mean these days it’d be like a drone dropped you off true okay so your your fear your first fear on the list is the fear of talking to your children about sex it was a fear but now you’ll just have your nieces do it exactly I’m gonna delegate that responsibility to my very eloquent nieces okay well what’s on your what else is on your list okay I can I can start off with a current fear of mine that’s not not yet been resolved which is I’m generally a fearful of being scared I am fearful of being like in a frightened State and specifically loud your first fear your first fear of having fear you have a fear of having fear and the Ugly the first fear I’ll get specific I’ll get specific so I have a fear of getting startled or being started it is completely different okay guys you know for those of you listening thanks for continuing to listen I’m gonna just I just need to let these ladies know okay we’re having a conversation so you just have to have open mind you just have to trust okay then maybe I’ll provide any details because it’s a real fear startled okay so remember when we talked about the horror films and like why they scary one of the elements of why horror films are so scary to me is like when that boot moment happens when somebody like the jump scare the jump scare okay you’re you’re afraid someone’s gonna like pop around a corner like something’s gonna make you jump It’s the fear of the jump scare is that better that’s better thank you okay you’re welcome so as a kid I was regularly called um shaytoun which in Farsi turns out we both have Hebrew names um so it’s called Shea tune and it’s a Persian word that’s derived from the word uh devil okay so it’s like a cutesy way of saying you little [ ] you little you little troublemaker I was super playful okay so everybody will call me shaytune and one of the reasons was I loved hiding behind the couch hiding behind a wall and jumping yeah I love scaring people so I mean it didn’t matter like how old you were what what if you were a boy or it didn’t matter who you were I wanted to scare you I think scared my grandpa at one point to see the reaction you liked that moment yeah yeah okay of them being scared and then realizing it was just me and so oh it was just so thrilling but I had to stop doing it because I couldn’t accept what I was giving okay I could not be scared oh when it was done when it was done to me okay it was it was terrifying I was like I was just so I would get really scared and then exhausted by that fear it would be like oh okay we’re done guys so you didn’t have to do it back at me you didn’t have to do it so I had to just stop doing it wholesale because I wasn’t I was like okay if I was very uh measured and mature of you to have that response thank you treat others how you want to be treated that to every moment of your life okay so like what was this time period of scaring people to not scaring people oh okay so I think I mean this is definitely happening in my pre-teen years so let’s say from like ages from young age to like I don’t know I think I was doing it up to 10. okay a good period of time yeah yeah it’s like a time where it’s appropriate to be that person doing it so I think I kind of grew out of it at an appropriate age but it just got me thinking about like in general anticipation yes is something that is scary you know right children’s games always freaked me out are um hide and seek there’s something that like every time I hid I was like I have to pee so badly right now and I don’t even physically think that was the case but there was just something like about like okay someone is trying to find me and like yes this fear inside of you something happens to your body where it does make you want to pee like when you’re nervous you go up to speak on a stage or something it’s like well now I got a Pima pants Oh there’s other things I’d like to do you know for those nerves but and then the other thing um tag whenever someone was chasing after me I was like my fear is I like and and I’d have to tell myself like what do you think happens when they catch you that you’re right but like I yeah that that like anticipation that someone’s gonna find you or catch you I totally get it’s scary and you can’t I I think it’s like impossible to think logically when you’re scared yeah that’s okay right or when you’re like and like because here you’re like trying to tell yourself like okay they’re just gonna tap me on the shoulder that’s it yeah but you’re like no yes yes I absolutely did you see did you ever watch The Ellen Show when it was on yeah yeah yeah so she has this thing where she will scare her yes yes oh my God that is like a worse nightmare you know what on the list of things that she’s done again I don’t think that that’s at the top uh of the worst um I didn’t tell you it was the worst but but it is something when I would watch I would be like [ ] a if she if she what am I saying if she ever did that yeah if she ever does that Evelyn never scares me she doesn’t know what’s coming for her but you do laugh at the people that get scared it’s like when I I think I told you in third grade they’d pull me aside and and said you can’t laugh at people when they get hurt it’s not nice but it’s like it’s so funny like it’s so funny it’s the same thing laughing at people that get scared that gets scared for anything I think I though have passed this this skittishness off to to kishmish because man you like moved the chair a little bit he’s laying down you walk a little too heavily and he’s like so yeah my my fears list it’s not the same kind of fear like that’s it’s not this like uh physical deep-seated thing because like the first thing just on and I’m just gonna go in order but the first thing on my list that I jotted down was period underwear ah the idea of it is frightening to me is this like the thinks those things yeah I think there’s multiple Brands yeah have you have you worn period underwear I’ve I’ve wore I have one pair of things that is terrifying to me that is terrifying to me does do they work uh I without getting too gross I have not experienced it in a heavy flow mode I’ll just say yeah I can’t I don’t trust them I don’t trust them I fear that they don’t work and I’m worried about the number of women out there wearing underwear like this and what happens I don’t the fear I would I would categorize it as I love yourself generously using the term fear in this moment freaking ready I fear period okay everywhere I fear unnecessary um things coming out I just don’t want things coming out yeah same token I was thinking well opposite side of the coin I fear the days yes because I don’t want things going in oh that’s there’s an in and out yes unexpectedly or like I just like there’s something terrifying to me about a bidet I agree almost the opposite way of period underwear but they kind of live in the same like area and we have bidets in the bathroom here and I can’t do it I can’t do it because in my mind that spray could go freaking anywhere exactly what scares me it’s gonna go up your up your back you know it’s gonna go around the room that’s the mess it can make them shoot out the front yeah I have a fear of making a mess that’s why I’m afraid of bidets like I don’t want that to can you imagine the person comes out of the bathroom your bathroom your office bathroom and you see yes a wet stain on their lower back you’re like well that [ ] did not know how to use that exactly so yes I think in both instances of the period underwear and the bidet it’s a fear of mess because it could it could be a mess in multiple ways they’re both down below but I’m terrified of both of those things okay I think that’s totally fair I I mean I could keep going uh you know because the next thing on my list thematically doesn’t really fit with those materials but I’ll just I’ll top it top it out there I’ll bottom it right out there uh using the wrong form of there okay I’m just I just want to stop you just for one second okay I am sorry is this gonna be like a list of things Stevie just dislikes or excuse me afraid not all of us can be scared of being scared um some of us have fears of other things is this the fear you have incorrectly using that yes the fear of me and correctly using there I’m very good at using the various different forms of there but sometimes if I’m in a rush and I’m slacking something or I’m texting something the wrong there will slip out and it terrifies me and on slack you can edit your message correct yourself oh but on text you have to send like an asterisk situation and what I will not do is I will not let the there stay there that is the incorrect yeah you need people to know if you said me the incorrect there I’m judging the [ ] out of it and so I have this fear I guess we could step back I have a fear of people judging the [ ] out of me as I would them Golden Rule so yeah so I think that um I think that’s valid fair fair [Music] Hello friends midterm elections are coming up on November 8th and we want you to be educated and informed to exercise your right to vote so that’s why we’re bringing back vote like a beast this year go to vote likeabeast.com to 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you have a big car yeah I would I have never hit my mirrors I have scraped my car against another car in a compact parking space and I think maybe that has something to do with it but like I need a three foot diameter from all angles for me to feel like I am yeah I have enough space to drive what is it about the mirrors versus the rest of your car the mirrors are like little little hands like I don’t you know like I can I have a sense of the body you have a sense of the body but these two little T-Rex arms that are sticking out like I don’t know what they’re gonna do and I’m might be like I’m afraid of other people being too close but I hate being in super tight places or let me rephrase it I have a fear of being in tight places um yeah maybe you’ll take me more seriously if I just say fear I like tight places I knew that was fun wow it’s great win it’s a great win Logan’s like I’m waiting for it because I’ve been with straight women too I like loose places as well oh oh oh man that was good oh God okay a fear of knocking the mirrors off your car okay I can see that I have seen I’ve I’ve well one do you have the mirrors that uh rotate in when there are parks oh yeah that is probably that’s such a nice feeling I can fold or unfold the side view mirrors and also when we when I reverse it kind of don’t give too much away this has nothing to do with my fear now I’m just giving you features of the car I drive the horsepower’s great oh yeah yeah have you seen that commercial there’s a commercial for a new Audi and I guess you can do like light design and there’s this kid who’s sitting in the passenger seat and the mom is like out in front of the car and the kids like going through the different like light design feature and the mom is like I don’t know let’s try it again and it’s like oh this mom has so many light design choices she can’t figure out what she wants on her 125 000 Audi that’s parked in this mansion’s driveway on the shore like it’s so and it’s like isn’t this relatable is the light an inside light I couldn’t also tell it was like little like little lights on the like you know they have like the like side light and so these are outside it’s like it’s on the outside it’s not like the the she’s she’s on the outside looking at the kid inside the car doing this it’s just like one of the things like [ ] Rich ass people things it looks like they watch it’s not relatable Too Fast Too Furious Us and got some ideas from what like cool cars can do I yeah I just for my lighting design I’d like the lights to be on when they should be on and then be off when they should I think really you want some lighting gels really if outing I do we can go back to the lighting gel conversation um okay you you started off a conversation by saying you have a fear of telling your kids about sex I just have a fear of kids I thought you were gonna say yes okay fear of kids okay let’s let’s talk about that well okay you’ve seen the tick tocks where the kids say things that are just like unintentionally creepy about like my friend so and so that lives in the corner and like you know they’re like they’re imaginary they have like legit yes like legitimately creepy you know ghost things but I’m also like scared of kids like they’re buggery freaking like slobbery selves like the germs around a kid and them touching you terrifying but there was a kid at um at gay brunch the other day just like and it’s just like that’s that is scary to me that you could think that that was okay everything about a kid scares me conversing with a kid I don’t know what you want me to say to you like girls kids also are unfiltered so it is scary to have a conversation like the truth hurts exactly when a kid gives you the tree it hurts yeah yeah exactly well suti will I’ll like ask my niece like if if I can have something right in their house and she just looks at me she says no thank you it walks away never have I felt shittier she’s polite like I can’t have a [ ] snack from from Europe no thank you no thank you you cannot um another thing that scares me different level but people seeing that I’ve watched their Instagram story I don’t know why no one but I you don’t like people to know that you’ve given them any attention oh my God I avoid watching 99 of all Instagram stories because I don’t like to be tracked I don’t like people to see what my own social media behavior is when Instagram had the whole which they they probably do like which photos have you liked thing creepy Twitter has that I you have to be conscious of what you what you like and what you do I so I I have a fear of people knowing that I because this is what it is I don’t want to have to take action on what I see I want this to be a passive experience sometimes I’m not going to like an Instagram photo it doesn’t mean that I don’t care or that whatever but now I have this pressure of and and it also like affects IRL interactions with people when it’s like am I supposed to acknowledge that I know that you had a beer at this bar last weekend because I saw it on your Instagram story and now we’re supposed to have this conversation where I’m like how is that beer on your Instagram story like I just it’s weird to me it like still it’s like how you’re supposed to interact with someone and then it’s like if it’s a if it’s an action if it’s a friend of yours I don’t mind if it’s like an ancillary situation but if it’s a friend of yours I feel like I have to like take some kind of actions like yeah you know you you go girl or like I like the way that you are picking that flower or like it just it seems weird to me like I’m not saying anything but I’m clearly like watching yeah and then you’re watching me watch you I don’t like it does this mean that when you post anything you were really actively looking at who liked your stuff yeah totally totally not liked that’s a good point not liked but uh but watch yeah okay okay so when you see who has watched your story what is your thought process what are you thinking that’s a very good point because I’m not thinking like well so-and-so needs to be bringing this in real life when I see them it’s also um you know I do a lot of like promotional stuff on my Instagram story I’ve kind of like I don’t do as much like real social stuff on my thing because then I then I feel the pressure to document everything and that if I’m not documenting it that it’s bad so like with art school boy I think he posted something on his story I don’t even in social interactions I I don’t do any social media because then I don’t feel the pressure of them like thinking like oh am I not good enough to go on your story or whatever I just don’t I’ve refrained from all of it and also I kind of get creeped out if like I’m posting something and um you know in real time and then like someone’s watching it that I don’t really know when like is there a privacy exactly yeah um but just yeah that pressure of like people wondering like why isn’t she posting this thing it’s like because I don’t post I don’t post anything because I don’t want that you know and also like the whole like I’m at a concert and by the way I haven’t watched your Instagram stories so if you’re supposed to be here at a concert I’m sorry but I just don’t do that anymore either because I’m like okay I want to be here in this moment and like part of the reason that I used to post those things on social media is because I did want people to know what I was doing and like because I did fall into the Trap of like you know like look at look at all the things I’m doing and then like you know some time ago I was just like why am I doing yeah like why am I posting like look at what I’m doing totally like I don’t want anyone to look at what totally it is a it’s a really hard balance because there’s part of it that’s like I want to share with people I know the things that are going on because it’s fun too and this is how we’re keeping up with each other and then it’s very quickly it gets into the well now I’m sharing with people that I don’t know who I’m not going to stick with what I’m doing and they can then extrapolate whatever ever they want yeah from that experience in such an interesting way yeah it’s just a mind [ ] all of it and so that’s what frightens me and one other quick one because I have such a long list I do think this is relatable making a doctor’s appointment making a doctor’s appointment Empires the [ ] out that’s because it’s so badly done it’s you you feel like the reception and the yeah it’s just it’s different for every provider yeah well it’s also it Taps into this I think I think it’s squarely a millennial fear of doing like everyday tasks there’s some kind of um Block in like yeah in in doing things like making a doctor’s appointment or like uh interacting like listen I’m on back-to-back meetings with with you know in quote important people every single day and having like large conversations and doing all this stuff picking up the phone to call the doctor is it just instills a fear in me and it doesn’t make any sense because like why can’t I talk to the receptionist to schedule a doctor yeah you want to know if your doctor has like a slap you can join and be like can I do yes yes I would like to just email you and yeah so I yeah those types of errands I give me so much freaking anxiety yeah don’t fully understand why I feel like we’re doing a really good job of making this episode super spooky super Halloweeny really getting people in the mood I mean are we gonna talk about things that like were actually legitimately you guys are adults paralyzed right no no I’m not going to do that I’m not going to manifest that I’m not going to think I’m not going to spend any time Conjuring up negative energy thinking about like the future and what I’m scared of so you will get that I’m scared of making a doctor’s appointment thank you all right I have a fear that I think is more it’s away from like the fear of administrative things and Logistics it’s a fear of drowning and a fear of floating away in space I think of these things very similarly it’s like this sense of like it’s all floating you know it’s you’re floating and you can’t breathe yes exactly yes fixation yeah can you elaborate on um like what situation you’d be in in which you would float away in space that wouldn’t feel a very aspirational aspirational fears okay okay okay so these are like these are very common if I think about like real fears these are common ones because what okay so from the drowning the drowning one comes from the fact that I’m not a great swimmer period okay I can swim I can float but like my dog and I swim the same way right we’re we’re both doggy paddling and that’s it and so I feel like there’s this fear of like well if something goes wrong I don’t know if I can save myself yeah and the the drowning part of it’s like once you’re in the ocean it’s dark there’s oh how much the ocean broadly is very yes we have talked about ocean the expanse of the ocean the depth of the ocean every because the other thing is that like you could be a good swimmer and still be very frightened of drowning because you could be stranded out in the middle of nowhere in the ocean and you can only swim first well great so this fear has just been yeah escalated because I’m not a good swimmer and I’m also fear afraid of the the unknown the ocean and I don’t know if you watched um this amazing documentary it was called my octopus tell me my octopus teacher oh yeah I you know I I watched the trailer so good I highly recommend it but it’s basically the story of this documentarian who goes in to the ocean in search of an octopus and he forms a relationship with an octopus but this whole time it’s he has all this great dolphin relationships yeah he’s going into the darkest water okay and it’s like he’s it’s lonely there’s like not that many things around you don’t know what’s gonna swim out from the Kelp right so there’s the jump scare moment there there’s jump scare but I felt like this is so glad we taught you that term today yeah me too I’m gonna be over using it as a result but oh yeah yeah so he’s going he’s looking for the octopus and I don’t know if he intended for his film to be like suspenseful but I found myself so scared the whole time because I think of those elements of the darkness that you alone and the like who’s gonna come out well and also you’re not when you’re in that state it feels like you don’t have all your wits about you like you’re you can’t breathe in the same like Optimal way that you can breathe uh not in the water and you’re you’re like uh I mean not that I mean maybe you could punch someone really hard sure but like your ability is limited too so you like you feel like defenseless and then also a really big thing for me is the way that the ocean sounds especially like when you get to a muffled it really freaks me out yeah like like everything like sound travels differently yes water so every everything just sounds different so all those like can’t breathe can’t see can’t fight can’t hear all the all the normal ways I would normally kick ass I can’t underwater I want to hear you right now the floating away one is I’m surprised you haven’t had this fear I thought it was kind of a common one okay well I think it is again again you’re in more realistic fear territory remember my my first thing was period yeah yeah yeah so like we’re we’re a little bit more apart going like different directions I agree the floating on weight space it happens the same way every time every time I think about it it’s I am in space yes I’m in outer space astronaut suit a spacesuit okay and so also my hands it’s kind of like I can’t put my arms down normally I can’t move around normally but I have been disconnected from the International Space Station okay so there’s this line like a tampon string coming out of my body because I’ve been detached and I’m just floating away floating away it’s not a vital nothing violent happens like obviously in that situation I would die pretty quickly oh no something violent would yeah the fear is just me love it’s very cinematic that that’s like a Trope that happens repeatedly and yeah where do you think this fear came from I probably like watch Apollo 13 or gravity and was reinforced gravity that one oh my God but it’s like the fear of um floating away in a vast expanse of nothing alone that’s the scary like how long am I going to be alone there’s also something I think the difference between space and the ocean which there’s a lot of differences at least in the ocean you can Propel yourself even if it’s dominant yes in space you’re just like yeah you can’t work your way towards anything I’ve never been in space but yeah it’s like have you ever had those dreams where you’re trying to every time I run in my dream it’s like this like weird like I will run like once twice and then I’ll start floating a little bit and I won’t be able to run as fast and that always happens to me interesting but I’m like just in your dreams yeah no in real life what happens is I actually would know because I haven’t read any time in the recent past whatever running’s bad for you anyway yeah sure uh I so yeah so I think that’s not going overboard in a boat situation um yeah it still kind of sense aspirational right I’m not making it too real no yeah because like boats can sink and then then you’re just in the ocean so you so you won’t get in one or when you are in one it’s like an is it enough to be a photo yeah if I’m gonna die I’m gonna die I don’t really care truthfully there is that like part like you know how people are scared of flying yes and like I don’t know why but like I’m just like I go to like the most logical place where I’m like why am I wasting my time being scared of this because if it happens it happens and like I’d rather it just happened than me spend time thinking about how bad it’s gonna be of course that’s not on my list of course yeah because that seems too real you’ve got something like uh fear of wearing stripes and polka dots at the same time oh well I do have the fear of wearing black and navy yeah yeah this is a fear because listen the older you get the harder it is to tell if something is black or navy then you find yourself out in a public place you can’t do anything about it and all you’re thinking about is I’ve made the wrong choice here it kind of feels like a there moment where you’re like oh everyone’s gonna think I thought that this one everyone’s gonna think yes yes uh and Cassie and I have gotten into multiple arguments about is something black or navy as she feels I’m consistently wrong and it has instilled this deep fear in me that I’m going to walk out and it’s going to be embarrassing um but that wasn’t next to my list and this is not an order obviously eggs that aren’t refrigerated oh it’s very scary but you know that that’s that’s supposedly like a good thing I understand I understand there’s a world in which butter can be left out I understand the world in which cheese can be left out I respect that all of those things are valid to some people the idea of a warm egg that has been just sitting out in room temperature is terrifying to me do you know what could happen like you could get very sick you could you could you could wind up in the hospital are you telling me you would just eat a room temperature Egg that’s been sitting out uh for a long time and you would have no remorse it has been 72 hours since I had a room temperature Egg made for me and consumed it I I’m here today you live in a household where the eggs don’t go in the fridge not my household I was at my sister’s place they do that I don’t know if it’s like a and you asked me if you asked if you could have an egg and your niece said yes thank you um oh it’s a British household that’s why the Butter’s out isn’t the butter out I think so I think they leave everything out yeah they leave everything they want everything to be a little bit soft let me use it okay well if Dr Naz thinks it’s okay maybe I can check it off my fears list I didn’t say she eats the eggs oh she just lets her children eat them the people that she loves most she lets us eat the eggs thank you okay well I think one that is also uh uh falls into my West Side category I’ll just briefly mention and I understand this his knee she’d have to be there LAX uh the airport in Los Angeles freaking terrifying freaking terrifying every moment you’re in the car it’s terrifying you’re walking to get into a car it’s terrifying you’re walking through security it’s terrifying at every moment in LAX is a nightmare there is no world in which you have a pleasant time in LAX unless you’re the type of person that designs your Audi and then gets into a private Lane right celebrity rich people sweet to get carted off to your privacy this is why I say you need to get a price because yeah the sphere is not worth ruining your life over I’m feeling like no one is legitimizing my fears today I feel like everyone’s brushing times of Logan and I nodding I mean like yeah yeah that’s yeah it is not naughty I’m seeing her I’m seeing her nod we’ll talk about them after Logan has pulled up feedback after she’s pulled up a list of therapists you could speak to after the show no these are real uh I think that the LAX one is for me that one really brings up the fear of being late or missing a flight which I feel like missing something missing whenever I go to the airport that fear is so strong that I’m like I have my ID ready to go when I step out of the cab like I want to be ready to go into to the pre-che whatever that line is the security line yeah as soon as I get out of the drag there but oh yeah guys for a nominal fee of 80. after two years you can walk yourself into a 30 minute line instead of an hour long line use code best okay I’ve got I’ve got one one last fear for you you ready for it yeah this is the fear of having to take a final exam for a class I didn’t know I was in this is a big time nightmare that I still have more than 10 years after graduating from from an educational institution being severely unproposis yes oh my God mine’s the I’m backstage and they’re like okay you’re off and I’m like what well I don’t know what play this is and I don’t remember how to tap dance anymore yes so this fear is that would have been a good fear on my list yeah so I have this stress stream whenever you know whenever I’m like highly stressed I will either have my period when I’m really stressed it will just come out or I will have this dream it will just come out especially if you’re wearing my underwear yes and it’s the same it’s the same like scene every time I’m in this Auditorium that I took a real Final in like an econ final for a class I hated I was so bad at it and I’m always in this class and they’re telling me that it’s either like a advanced econ test or a science class and every time I’m like well I can’t use my words to like I can’t BS my way through it Whatever It Is and I was so pleased I like the broadness of it’s a science yeah and found out that um the CEO of the last company I worked at who was like a older man who you love yeah yeah exactly the one I love he still has the same dream too his is not necessarily it’s for scientists he has the college final for me there’s also this one little added layer of shame that I needed to drop the class right like that like I wanna in real real life that like the the class that you’re referencing you needed to drop and you didn’t and then like I should have dropped it but then oh my God what does that mean if I’m dropping a class does that mean I can’t handle it so there’s just so many levels of like terrible in here oh yeah the majority of your dream you’re just sitting down thinking counting on my fingers all the things that went wrong you know what’s weird is that that reminded me of a nightmare that I haven’t had too many times but I do think that there’s parallel and um just the public school system system the idea that you don’t know where you’re supposed to go like you don’t know where your classes are and you’ve forgotten your schedule that’s the other like thing what does that have to do with the public school because I always felt like so [ ] but I felt like there was like no one there to help you oh okay that like you know what I mean like you’re tossed into that student to teacher ratio is not in your favor exactly and like you’re going like for me going from a school where I had 12 people in my class to 500 people in my class and like you’re in these this whole campus and multiple buildings with multiple teachers from multiple subjects and you know and you’re like okay at this time I have to be in this building in this specific room with this teacher but I’ve never been on this Campus before fend for yourself you know exactly so like I hope that I get there on time and no one gives a [ ] if I do or not and you know it’s my own probably I saw I don’t know if it was a Reddit post I was not on Reddit but I saw post that was like we tried to help this freshman with their school schedule and uh it turned out when we grabbed the schedule that they don’t go to this school and I just was like oh my God that’s so good I’m about to back to like how anxious I was in that time period and how unsure of myself I was and how scared of everything I was like I think I would die I think I would just melt into the ground like what do you do you’re at the wrong [ ] school terrible which brings me to my next fear which is not related at all to what we’re talking about but I have a fear of of getting Flappy underarms I am I I know it’s inevitable I am on my way there I think back to when I was a child and I’d like play with my mom’s Flappy underarms and she’d be like stop it and I’d be like why are you so mean and if anyone ever ever did that to me I would feel terrible but like it’s just it’s an inevitable truth I’ve seen I mean freaking JLo who’s like the most built like 60 year old on the planet I’m sorry I don’t know famously 50. she I mean anyone who’s even like fit has the Flappy underarm it’s just it’s just a a womanly uh accessory but I am terrified oh man I don’t know and and someone on the internet already told me I had Grandma arms which was really yes yes um but the the Flappy underarm thing like the tricep the triceps yeah you gotta keep those triceps tight you know but this is the thing I will say there’s also a nice part of a flappy underarm oh yeah I have really fond memories of my preschool teacher Mrs Grimsley funnily enough her name was crimson yeah like our High School Mrs Grimsley all the kids all the girls specifically at playtime would line up would kind of like encircle her okay she was probably 80 some years old she was so old so these are flowers okay and we would take turns we would take turns jiggling her arms and petting her little gizzard the little under under chin area oh my God yeah and she would totally indulge us and we would be like oh we love you you’re so soft you’re so soft and I I don’t think this is okay it was so inappropriate this is Nightmare fuel like can you read 10 little girls whoa ten little girls touching jiggling an 80 year old woman’s jiggly wrinkly part it was so nice it’s such a happy memory for me it’s [ ] up in so many ways but she gave us a lot of pleasure Jones she gave us a lot of clothes Mrs Grimsley was a great teacher okay I I just just two more very um quick things they’re they’re related to each other I’m scared of what waiters can do to your food there is that period of time where they are alone or they are with people who support bad decision making because I understand it customer service is very terrible and I try and be as nice as possible to any anyone I interact with period but like could be having a bad day could be having a bad day and I don’t know what I don’t know what you what you could put in the food somebody could ask like hey is this natural wine taste normal yeah yeah you never know what a good wine director is going to do yeah yeah I think I think think you’re right you’re right though you have to keep it polite keep it like impersonal or polite yeah so that they don’t respect they don’t they it does I mean that does matter I’m just saying anyone can have a bad day oh just because they’re bad okay that’s like a yeah yeah okay and then um also another restaurant experience that I’m fearful of and I hate to admit this because it is very telling of how far my education has fallen I am scared of and I know there’s simple tricks and I know how to do it but when I’m put on the spot calculating the tip and then adding it to the total and if I’ve had a drink or two I feel as if everyone is looking at me everyone’s judging me I can’t do basic arithmetic I can’t I can’t do any of that and then I and then I question myself repeatedly and so I get that calculator out I’ve gone to um calculator I’ve gone to unapologetically just like yeah I’m just gonna do this with a calculator really appreciate those those checks that come that have a percentage with the it’s already figured out like why don’t they do that on everything how hard is it just to have that come with everything but man the fear of calculating a tip uh is is deep rooted I will say yes to that I will say yes I will say yes I’m carrying the one firm meets the egg I was at a um this is early on in my in my relationship with Zach I was taking some one of these like grad school exams and you had to do a lot of mental math so he’s really good at Mental Math like that guy can multiply any number that you give him and get an answer immediately I cannot that’s how I can’t and so he was trying to help me and one of these help sessions intersected with the dinner that I had with his mom and stepdad where the check comes he’s like okay honey do the math I’m like honey no [ ] bring this up in front of people wow dare you don’t how dare you I take it back it is not hot oh and I was like what I can’t do that in front of people never people but also in front of your parents I know honey I know that you don’t know basic math oh apparently this is the girl that I’m with that doesn’t know basic math look at this dumb girl I’m helping oh man these were some good fears these were some yeah I feel like we’ve we continue to learn a lot about each other um who brings the meat of an episode and who it does that but I’m glad I got some of these off my chest yeah who knows maybe that will airing it out helps reduce the anxiety and fear maybe maybe sure well I have I have a fun little uh awkward uncomfortable moment for you that has to do with your one of your biggest fears I would say kids kids good kids okay okay so normally I would say if you’re gonna if you are choosing to play with kids engage and play um like like girls my experience has been I’m making I’m making sure that you feel like you have agency because you are so triggered by children uh okay I feel like with girls when it gets like rough rough play is like screaming really loudly or they’re chasing you it’s like tag and tickling okay but with boys it’s [ ] scary okay boys like do not hold anything back give me an example yeah so I was I was at a friend’s house who has three boys okay three boys under the age of six I think right so it’s intense they’re super sweet so loving but when playtime hits oh they are coming after you and I was just taking the approach I normally do I’m like oh you got a little bit physical you like kick a ball with them you like throw a ball these kids were pelting me with whatever they could find so like they had um a teddy bear that we were playing with and it they weren’t trying to toss the technique bear at me they were like throwing it at my face so I felt like the the the the the strategy was like what can I throw that will hit your most sensitive place like what will destabilize you where’s the mom in this play time like it’s just you and three boys she’s actually just watching she’s just one is the most awkward to me is is the parent to child interaction when you’re involved and like it’s not someone that you’re close with that you can be like your kid’s a [ ] [ ] so she is a very good friend and she was laughing watching us because I instigated the situation I like I started it so it was it was on me in some ways but I felt awkward though because I was like I feel like I’m gonna get hurt and I’m afraid of getting hurt but like I don’t how do I end this this is really uncomfortable like I don’t want to play doing that like fake laughter thing like oh yeah so funny oh what good aim you have so what I end up doing is I end up like running and locking myself in the bathroom literally very adult responsible they are all outside laughing and running and I’m inside of a dark bathroom being like you can’t catch me oh my God I’m in here we’re playing the quiet game we’re playing the game where I run away I’m gonna count to 20. go hide so yeah I just like I don’t know how to I don’t know how to so wait what did your friend do in the in that instance I mean she eventually she helped me but this was like this things escalate so quickly so over 30 second period like we go from like joking around to getting assaulted really yeah and it’s so is she like in this and since she’s like okay everybody like let’s let’s go do something else or we’re getting a little Rowdy yes she just exactly she distracts them and now it’s like okay now move on to the next thing guys Nikki like that’s enough now so she she handled it you know the way I think the only way you can handle it with like a pack of boys it’s interesting that you bring this up because Cassie’s recently had the situation you know there’s a lot of little kids in our neighborhood she’s really good with kids and she has relationships with all these kids and their parents and I think I brought this up before we’ve noticed like this like gentle parenting technique that happens especially in LA and sometimes it results in some brattiness uh and so how do you navigate something that said to you by a little kid in front of their parent that’s like a really [ ] or like you know what I mean yeah so she’s been in these situations where it’s like you know I you don’t want to offend the parent you don’t want a parent of course in front of the parent but then you’re also like why are you letting your kids do this [ __ ] to me in this situation it’s such a fine it’s such a weird it is such a weird line and I have I have come up with something because I’ve been in this situation a lot where I decide I’ve decided to just tell the kid how I’m feeling so if they say something that’s like mean or they don’t want to share whatever I think that makes me feel like I take Daniel Tiger it right like like that makes me feel hurt you hurt my feelings and if a parent hears that then like I don’t know if they’re not responding to you sharing that you have you feel hurt by that yeah then that’s another problem but I I agree it’s really hard to like not assume that you’re on the same page with everyone that you’re interacting with yeah and you don’t want to give you like yeah and you don’t want to t you don’t want to teach someone a lesson no you know like yeah like yeah it’s so I I think that that’s a good response because you can’t say like there’s no arguing with how you feel in that moment and how you’re expressing your feelings but like as soon as you’re like you know it’s maybe not nice to play that hard then it’s like oh you really yeah exactly yeah I hate every every bit every bit of what you just said no thank you no thank you oh we’re gonna find you a kid you love and I’m so excited to meet all of your kids yeah in a day oh this weekend at mythical we’re excited to see you guys thanks for listening to this week’s best friends back 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