foreign [Music] welcome to best friends back all right the show where two High School best friends try the best friend thing again I’m naginho my fair and I’m Stevie win Levine and today we are learning accents oh boy I am nervous because I have a feeling that I mean you’ve said that you’ve done an audition in an accent granted it was like an Iranian Persian accent correct oh I’m sorry so that discounts it no because like I feel like the only accent that I can very easily do is a Southern accent like I can do a Southern accent very easily yes but I just feel really inadequate about any other accent ability but do you okay that’s okay do you feel like you’re gonna be good at this I feel like I am gonna be really enthusiastic about this okay because y’all have all heard us impersonate Stevie’s dad right that’s the that’s the southern accent we’ve said Mamma Mia two or three times and an Italian accent okay but but don’t worry Stevie we are gonna become Pros today okay all right with with Hollywood accent coach Jack Wallace also known as at accent coach Jack I’m very excited to have Jack on because he’s actually an experienced dialect coach he’s from England he’s based in Los Angeles so you know he’s got a nice English accent that just made me feel more confident about my abilities I know I know but he’s really cool because his accent and dialect videos they have millions of views I’m a proud contributor to those views his clients have appeared in so many good shows including never have I ever Queer as Folk Daily Girls and the walking dead so I’m kind of like is he bringing zombie accents today I don’t know but now best friends back all right is just another just another show he can put his yeah right hang his hat on sure but anyway before we get into that how was your week how are you doing well uh as we signed on to this uh virtual recording session I think that we both noticed something about each other and that’s that we decided without talking about it to both get bangs uh in the past couple weeks um yeah so you’re you’ve gone with a side bang situation it’s a middle part but one is swooped to the left oh excuse use me I didn’t know is side bang like is that offensive to you that I’ve used that term side bang makes me think of Justin Bieber oh like a swoop like a swoop like I could go like this I oh so you’re anti-swoop you can you can swim look okay I’m gonna need to actually because that’s what I’ve learned is that like having bangs requires you to just just move your head yeah to the side well I went with the straight in front of my eyes like are they uncomfortable constantly the answer is yes bangs I love how they look though oh thank you very much I I am a big fan are you gonna self-trim ah that seems dangerous to me I I specifically wanted one I brought in photos which um you know is I think is an important step did you yes did you bring a photo of a person no I don’t know I didn’t bring photos of a person I brought a photo of dog of dog did you bring a bird did you bring a photo of yourself with the same haircut like five years ago no okay so that’s the thing the last time I had bangs was 2018 I had to look it up so it was you know a good good time ago but last time I got like more of a shelfie type of bang where it was like you know the rest of the hair there’s virtually no layers and poor Jack is like nodding and like when it’s my turn to talk that I know a lot about Banks like a shelf uh straight across um bang situation and this time I wanted that like kind of like Punky uh shag I can tell you’re wearing a leather jacket yeah well it’s cold um and I um I explicitly was like I don’t want anyone thinking that I’m getting bangs because of Taylor Swift and I need you to make that clear in yeah in your haircut is that something people people would say oh girl yes I there was a time period where and I don’t want to I mean we can reserve this conversation for for later because I want to learn some accents but there was a time period where people the further I got outside of La the more times I was um mistaken for Taylor Swift got it yes I have never been mistaken for an actor for that to or for like for anyone famous for me to even consider having to like how your bangs are going to affect it yeah yeah because I’ve brought in pictures of like beautiful women to the hair stylist all the time yeah and I’m like I want her hair so nobody’s ever going to be like Kourtney Kardashian like Gisele Bundchen you is that you like never gonna happen to me Kardashian who is saying that who’s also saying that okay so you got Texas bangs what else did I got Texas bangs well I had a really um we were I had a really fun time in Texas after mythicon I went and saw a bunch of family I got this i got this 70s haircut without using a picture and when we got back to DC we had some friends over um for what Zach my husband calls Nicholas Cage night so over the last uh few months he has been hosting with a couple of friends uh once a month Nick Cage night okay where he likes to order Fried Chicken because that is what Nick Cage orders the premiere on the premiere night of any of his movies he gets like a bucket of KFC chicken this is research oriented it’s like it’s like it’s so deep yes and then and then he does some Nicolas Cage trivia right to just set the mood so that people can get into it because not everybody coming to this Nick Cage night is into Nick Cage right they’re just there because it’s okay whatever um fun fact for example do you know what Nicholas Cage’s real last name is Coppola yes [ ] you got it Jack I bet you didn’t know you can’t slam Jack before he’s even like officially a part of the podcast I just think it’s a great little piece of trivia okay and then we watch the film and so this um this month the film was Con Air okay do you remember that yeah Connor is a hilarious film I highly recommend you watch it when you need to just like yell at the screen it has that Vibe like you’re always yelling you’re like what the [ ] that doesn’t make any sense but there are some crazy people in this film but Nick Cage plays this um this felon who gets put in jail because he has killed a man who threatened and his wife right so it’s like a crime of passion you want to like him but he has this Alabama accent that is so bad it sounds like he’s from like the Antebellum self I was gonna say a lot of times yeah a lot of times actors when they do a bad southern accent it sounds like they’re like a southern belle situation versus like if you’re really gonna do like a Down and Dirty South like it’s not gonna be cute and that’s the point but like this kind of yeah yeah Antebellum is an interesting way to say it yeah I mean he’s like the the one of the famous uh lines from the film is he says like put the bunny in the box but he’s like put the money in the box and you’re just like what is wrong with you whatever a lot are you from a lot and pay your taxes pay your taxes right yeah so anyway this is very this is a very uh fortuitous episode recording I think because I would like to know how to how to [ ] fix Nick Cage that says a big ass question that I do not want to put on on Jack but you’re point taken point taken we’re gonna learn how to correctly have different accents not I don’t believe we’re going thoroughly Southern but uh no not necessarily but Jack hello welcome hello hello oh my goodness are you a Nick Cage fan uh my cousin definitely is uh I I I’m okay I like that deflection I like that deflection okay all right all right all right but you know the accent issues that I’m talking about right yes and it’s actually hilarious that you’re talking about this because I was working on a project recently and I had a family that was all supposed to be from an area in this house in 2022 and one of one of the actors just refused to do what I was saying and was like oh on the way to the fair I was like please stop that it’s like I feel like when you go when you also use an accent like that it’s for me it’s offensive because it’s reflecting a time of the South that was also like those people had slaves yeah like those were the people that spoke like that were bad yeah so I don’t know what the insistence is on speaking in that way I think that there’s also um well in in any accent and I and I think it’s a especially true for like the broad spectrum of like British accents like they have different associations with like Class Type you know and so I think that when actors maybe are like yeah thinking about the south they’re like well I want to do the like highfalutin southern accent I don’t want to do the like you know down and dirty accent because I don’t think that that like you know that um exactly but yeah that’s not the case I don’t know what do you think Jack yeah um it’s also interesting how the whole like scope of accident coaching has changed over the past 10 to 15 years now that we have the internet we can hear actual people from there you can go on to tick tock and like put in certain things and just scroll through a bunch of actual what we call models in the case at least and listen to Oh I thought it was going to sound like this and actually it doesn’t sound like that at all but if you’re we’re trained back in the 1900s as the Gen Z call it um then you’re likely to have learned oh this is a Texas accent this is a boss attack so this is a New York accent but the truth is all accidents change over time anyway in the same way that language evolves and changes so if you’re going off something that your teacher taught you in the 90s that was their version of New York yeah it probably it’s not going to sound like a lot of people today oh that’s so interesting how did you how did you get into all of this I mean even hearing you say like the the accent that your teacher taught you in the 1900s like tell us about your background and and how how you got into this and then what it involves in your your day-to-day well I I am from the 1900s yeah I ended up doing uh Masters in professional voice practice uh in England and basically that covers a whole bunch of different things it’s mainly catered towards people that teach voice and speech at drama schools and colleges where people are learning theater but it also covers things like accent and dialect there was a little bit of singing here and there but I really zoned in on that because where I’m from in England is where one of the big major accent shifts happen oh what does that mean so you can categorize Accents in a manner of ways getting very very Niche to like broad strokes but one of the broad Strokes that you can divide England in is kind of North versus South um so if you think of something like Game of Thrones then like Jon Snow Rob Stark Ned Stark Bullhead Northern accents whereas like okay Sansa are ahead Southern Accents and I’m from the Midlands so um I would go to school and they would say things like bath grass class and then in my hometown they would say bath grass class and so it’s where it starts to really shift and so I would hear that constantly growing up and then my mother is from Belfast as well so she has a completely different accent from everyone around us so yeah I think I just was primed without even knowing it in terms of like it makes complete sense that you have the most knowledge about the accents that are closest to you you but you also have like I would assume this kind of Encyclopedia like catalog of accents that you can access at any time and then as you’re coaching someone you would study up on the like particulars like you said of like okay this is my basic knowledge of Texas but let me go to this specific place in Texas or this you know like let me go to tick tock and access the people in this age range and what they’re saying is that General like is that a broad strip yes well the makings of a dialect coach yourself oh just you wait just you wait but yeah essentially that is it there are certain ones that I get called on to coach frequently um because I do a lot of audition coaching and so they’ll be like oh I need some like this person tomorrow um a lot of UK accents a lot of General American accents um but then you’ll also get certain ones or if someone’s going for an actual role then you probably want to start getting a little more specific than the broad Strokes so we might find a model that fits those demographics of that person I mean we’ll find several we’ll listen to them see what we like and be like okay so this seems to be specific to this person whereas these features seem to happen across all of these people let’s find where we want to live on that Spectrum okay so in some cases it really is picking maybe a singular person or two and trying to talk like they talk unless you’re teaching your own accent it’s usually a good way to go about it because otherwise then you’re just going off a assumptions or like old research essentially yeah something that I’m I always find you know fascinating um especially as an actor myself is like figuring out who are the actors who are speaking in their native tongue and Native accent and the ones who have adopted another and it’s so impressive to me when I’m like oh my gosh this person that’s like you know supposedly from New York is actually from from England or from South Africa like how did they even come to master the accent in such a way you must work with people like that all the time yeah like how long how long how long does it take yeah it takes a while to be to be really that kind of chameleon of it um ideally if they’re going for something like going into a biopic it’s like Rami Malik being Freddie Mercury or Meryl Streep being Margaret Thatcher so the the very specific people have an idea what it’s going to be that process will take a few months for sure just to get everything down within about six weeks you can get a lot of cover a lot of grounds and get people sounding like believable humans for sure um but yeah it varies and then sometimes production are like okay so we’re shooting in 10 days and we’ve got the lead and they’ve never done an exit before but um can you help us and be like gosh oh my God but they got the look they got that look okay so you’re saying what I didn’t hear you say is that we could Master three different accents in 45 minutes I mean you’re not the average people you know oh [ ] yes that’s correct yes the banks make us look a little bit more cultured don’t they yeah I’m feeling I’m feeling particularly confident today yeah um I feel like when I’m watching a film and uh you know I know I like for recently I’ve been seeing a lot of Australian actors and the types of films that I’m watching or the TV shows and they’re really really good but then there comes an emotional scene um where they’re either screaming crying or whatever then I’m like oh I found you out you’re not American all right this is like your other accent coming out and I’m wondering is that like can you work against that can you make it so that’s like you coach somebody in those emotional scenes so they scream in the right accent yeah um that that’s always the hardest part of everything because when people are emotional that’s when you kind of fall back into your safe place which for people is their own voice so we always try when we know there’s big emotional things either going to one extreme of like shouting stream or they’re like crying very quiet like that version that you can find the new setup in the language um so okay there’s a particular technique out in the world called the Knight Thompson um speech training and they’re very big on what’s called either vocal tract posture to sound very fancy or oral posture and basically it’s how you hold all of the muscularity in your mouth even when you’re not speaking so the way I like to describe this is when I was in high school I wore a backpack the whole time so I would even when I wasn’t wearing it I would walk around and my shoulders were up like this and I I wasn’t even aware of it and and then in drama school when you’re doing all this release work they’re like put your shoulders down I was like Toyota what are you talking about and then eventually I was like oh I see and the same thing happens with the way that we speak the way that we talk we have patterns that we use to find all of the vowels that we use on a daily basis and so our tongues rest in a different place in our mouth so for example as a very broad stroke very general thing um because Americans tend to say all of their R’s in a place as an ER then the back of the tongue tends to sit up a little higher than in England because we we tend not to see them if it’s not followed by a vowel so for example actor my tongue goes up her because at the back as opposed to actor where it’s down so my tongue would tend to rest down compared to someone who’s got that or in Australia they tend to use their middle of their tongue a lot more and they’re like oh and so the middle uh the middle goes up as opposed to octo oh yeah I heard that all the time Ecto so um there are things that you could do to work on that resting setup so that then you don’t have to think about doing an accident at the same time as acting so for these emotional teams you want to work on that setup well this is perfect because we’ve got we’ve got a little bit of time for you to coach us through some of the basics for a few accents right we’ve talked about maybe French German and Essex English accent and I get asked to do a lot of Middle Eastern or Latin accents I speak Spanish and part Farsi but and you know it would be responsible for me to spend to use this time with a professional to perfect those accents but I want to be bad okay I want to learn I want to learn some accents that I don’t think I will ever be asked and also I feel like it would be really embarrassing to work on something seriously in front of uh in front of Stevie what stupid you might be asked to have a British accent in something why not why wouldn’t you I don’t I don’t I mean I think that the French a French or German accent is less likely but they’re very fun but I don’t know I feel like I see a lot of things where people have British accents so you should expand your horizons I would love I would love for the general like British accent to be something for me but we’re learning the Essex accent which is like the Jersey Shore kind of accent uh is that right am I being rude by saying that Jack is it kind of the same Vibe I I fully endorse that okay I thought you were gonna tell me that like your cousin thinks that but not you [Music] Hello friends I want to take a moment to tell you about the podcast dare we say join Josie Toda Alicia Pasquale Pena and Yasmine hamidi three young actresses disruptors and best friends as they navigate the issues that affect their lives from hookup culture and social media to structural racism and lgbtq plus rights they won’t 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weird thing is that the Australian accent is like almost closer to an American accent than it is a British accent if you’re like amongst all three you kind of start to realize like oh that the way that Australians speak I can I can see why it’s more of an American accent anyway watching Jack’s face this entire time you’ve been talking it’s been go it’s gone from like confused to interesting to that’s your perspective yeah yeah yeah well I I mean all that to say I feel like we should start with an Essex accent even though it’s a very specific British accent because I feel like we are more likely to like employ that in like a fun conversation than to switch to to another accent German accent yeah yeah but I don’t know I I all that to say I don’t think I’m as fun as I used to be is really the Deep dive that I did no no for real that’s what I’ve discovered about myself and so on that somber note can we go with the Essex accent first beautiful beautiful so um what I tend to help people with are what they’re called Signature sounds so if you get these sounds then you can kind of nail the big part so the first one is what we call the goat Bell because it’s found in the word goat it’s an o sound so but can I just get you to say the word goat in your own accents each study with yeah Stephen why don’t you go first goat beautiful can you say it so it takes three seconds to say it goat beautiful that was not three seconds but it was a long goat it was Longo which I appreciated thank you and again goat and the three second goat interesting now um oh yeah tell me what’s interesting about it um I just like to do that because it makes me feel Superior this is what we call a div song in this business basically the vowel has two parts in the syllable so when you spread it out it doesn’t just stay the same so for example if I did like off if I say the word birth long it doesn’t move ah the whole time whereas when both of you just did that we had an oh so it closes down into an um yeah so there were two parts to this vowel now the great thing there’s going to be two parts in the Essex version yeah yes and we’re probably gonna end in a similar place at that ooh sort of place but we’re gonna start at an ah instead so you can I get both of you to just go ah for me ah beautiful and now can you Glide from one to the other ow ow yeah exactly now can you put a g on the front of that sound go go put a t on the end gout goat yeah oh my God I’m already sounding I’m already hearing the pajama the Gemma from Essex exactly goat goat go go to make it even more so we can chop the T off but stop the sound with your throat in a glottal stop so instead of goat with the tongue go [Music] um go go go yeah yeah there we go are you saying yeah because we’re right jack or because you want to move on I would say because we’re making progress is what we’re doing okay I love it a great teacher um so another word that we will find this o sound in is the word over so it’s gonna sound very different from our American counterparts here can I get you to say that word just regularly in your own accent over over so we have the o sound at start and then the ER at the end instead of an ER we’re gonna go for ah over over oh you’re gonna do the whole thing he wants it step by step and a bad student I love it she saw where I was going I remember that yeah and then put it together OVA over yeah so we’re going to start at the same place that we end because we started that out in that oh anyway so over oh oh do the AO thing yeah so Alba not over and then speed it up a little bit over oh oh Alva look she Jack just just did this with his shoulders he just raised them and drop them like easy it sounds like a drug for some kind of um something menopausal ovaries now available yeah yeah yeah your life is over yeah exactly Stevie by the way you’re doing well both of you just just froze already now the tricky thing that I find with some of my American clients is then trying to put this oh before an n Sound because typically only doesn’t have an O is not usually own the all in most but it but it’s a short o whereas we want this long o before an end so we want only that sounds great do it a little faster um only yeah [Music] only very good only and then good smile yes shut up Logan how do you say the first number in numbers after zero one number and number see I I could have been a math major oh my God Stevie Stevie is buying her time to while she figures one oh how do I how do I say it one one yeah yeah we want a nice open ah one one one yeah one oh you want us to say it in the accident that that that’s the change yeah one one yeah so you could say only one only one yeah okay only only one very good I feel like I sound like a wench I’m I’m doing the um the like Duolingo version one only one yeah I feel like I could do some kind of like announcement somewhere too yeah I just need an owl costume one one yeah yeah like maybe like for trick-or-treaters if you need an audio track it’s just like only what one you know yeah that’s great very good so we’re now going to do the illustrious phrase am I the only one yes okay I’d love this so we’ve already got the end half so we just need that I am I yeah so just just give it a shot okay I feel like if I was doing it with an Essex kind of style yeah I’d have much bigger boobs did you unbutton your shirt one no oh it seems like it got like lower like it seems like you like just loosened right up I mean I may I may have pulled the shirt down a little bit yeah yeah yeah um but I need a spray tan to make it work um okay we’ll wait am I the only one yeah I love it yeah Stevie is the is the yeah I guess these because it’s before it before it’s an o yeah m i the only no today’s nail only no only one am I the only one my note to you Stevie is be wrong and strong ooh wrong and strong that doesn’t come naturally to me don’t be afraid to be wrong and strong I should say okay okay yes see yes that’s the note you need it do not do not think of the Posh people that you went to that you went to do your study abroad with this is not that I I that’s an interesting question like could I sort out all I could well the answer is no I could not sort out all the British accents into the various different spots that they’re supposed to go in but am I the only one that could no see that’s Australian the only what are we doing on that word on only oh I’m supposed to do an OA only um only am I the only one no it’s too bad you guys don’t have a video feed of this entire conversation because I do feel like a what I’m feeling at least as I do it it’s like I’m moving my mouth and my face in a different way I feel stretched out in the face I’m like Andy and I feel like part of this is like um it looks it looks different than I normally like when I speak it’s the bangs yeah so you were saying about feeling stretched out as a as a phrase [Music] but uh that’s a really good observation because you’re having to use your face muscles in a completely different way than you normally would and so it will feel more effortful probably in this accent and in Broad stroke general terms again there tends to be a lot of jaw work so you’ll find find that a lot of their efforts actually in the jaw for this one and is that because it’s an Essex accent or because we’re just doing a new accent for this type of exit specifically you will find people use their job quite a lot okay so am I the only one yeah okay so okay here’s my thing that sounds like a British accent to me but it also sounds like Oliver Twist like it sounds like Lisa can I have some more which is not an Essex accent there is a little bit of kind of deliberate intonation happening which is probably what is invoking okay that but again we just if I was more natural let me just be more natural about it okay okay yeah yeah oh like we’re in conversation whatever am I the only one yeah okay so so yeah so so Jack could you do like could you take that phrase and just show us for a second like a handful of British accents and how that phrase differs or is that phrase one that like doesn’t differ as much as you move through the different British accents I guess that’s what I’m having a hard time sure um the there are a couple of things that will change in there so for example if we go to Yorkshire which is a northern accent like Sean Bean for example with the I and the O and the one are all going to change so it’ll be more like am I the only one oh it’s like a rounded level it’s a little it’s a little towards like Irish too okay whereas down like the the crown version yeah yeah yeah yeah am I the only one am I the only one am I the only one so you need that slight that slight constriction in the throat am I the only one okay I feel like I feel tight that’s supposed to loose I feel tight instead of being stretched out you’re now tight yeah Jack and can you do the Essex one so we have that too yeah um and then in Essex it’s more like am I the only one why am I the only one am I the only one only yeah yeah that’s something you could say to Cassie when you go home thank you am I the only one you could just try these out okay I’m gonna go around all today be like am I the only one nice to meet you sir am I the only one am I sexual yeah exactly there is a solid like six months when I lived in San Francisco that every night I went home after work and I watched hours and hours of this reality and yeah reality show called The Only Way is Essex that was like the Laguna Beach style reality show of this of of Essex and when I watched it so consistently so regularly like I could fake it yeah and I could make fun amazing and that became my like my only reference for England was Essex for a very long time yeah that’s why little kids get the Peppa the Pig accent because they watch Peppa the Pig so much that they start talking like Peppa the pig foreign [Music] S I want to take a moment to tell you about the podcast story of the week on story 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be different about this compared to the last one is that when English is a second language you tend to employ the rules of the first language the W’s in German are said as these Vice can I ask you watermelon there’s something about um and I don’t think this is done as much for other accents German can go like kind of comedic very quickly you know what I mean and so is there that choice that you that you do have to make where it’s like okay if you push it a little bit like this it’s going to sound comedic versus like yeah yeah but when I encourage people for auditions I tell them that very easily it could become heimlich from A Bug’s Life yeah yeah yeah I think it’s it’s to do with how much you needed to like playing with intonation so if you’re doing this all the time then you know it’s so funny uh yeah then it could get very comical with it it’s kind of like Swedish as well because of the intonation pattern it’s very easy to lean into that and then it’s comedy all of a sudden yeah yeah so it’s taking the things that you would do and then maybe just softening them a little bit or just getting very detailed about it um so if we were continuing with the lyrics from batteries back um if we looked at the phrase am I everything you need okay oh my gosh is this where am I the only one I didn’t really make that connection um we have to sing these all now we can only sing them okay so the the word you want us to say is so the the lyrics that we’re looking at for this one is am I everything you need so we’ve got to change that th sound because they don’t use Earth in German at all so we have to replace it with something that’s similar so we’re going to put an S in Place okay so everything very good and then the other thing that tends to happen is that you mean the other thing that yes um that these are pronounced as F’s because W’s so now Visa F’s so instead of everything we’re gonna do F every sing everything everything yeah am I uh no yeah and I was doing a British Emma am I everything good everything everything we’ve got to be careful because you do speak both fuzzy and Spanish we’ve got to be careful not to add in any tapped or roles because that would be your go-to other accidentally so but just regular every just regular uh everything just a boring R okay f f re everything very good F every single and then on the M we’re just going to change it to an m m like e m yeah oh what am I saying again I m I everything you need very good Stevie interesting m i everything you need very good and this is going to be one minute selfie and that is going to be on the end of need instead of doing a d we’re going to do a t that’s great I don’t like doing D’s beautiful yeah overrated um yeah totally totally overrated M uh okay am I everything m m m i everything you need that’s it I think it’s funny as you as you’re processing it you do sound like a German person trying to learn English [Laughter] m i m i everything everything you need am I everything you need see I’m hearing more of an accent when I hear Stevie do it than when I do it like I feel like I’m saying it as an American and you’re saying it as a German that might just be your perception I would say okay yeah a lot of a lot of cell a lot of self shame going on here Jeff I mean what uh TV personalities and radio personality podcast personalities if not filled with self-shaped self-shame and doubt yeah totally okay and and then now if we say it like uh oh wait is there another part of it that we need to germanize no that that is the German part of that um and what about the eye it’s pretty similar it’s similar because they have that sound already because they have the I sound in German as well the language okay cool am I everything you need very good am I every everything you need yeah lovely question am I everything you need yeah oh question when you when Germans speak do they like do they have mannerisms that are very German like physical mannerisms when they speak great question for all the German listeners out there okay sorry you’re not he’s like I am an expert on this evening not on the physical movement because you did this thing where you went like you cocked your head when you did it and I’m like I wonder if there’s me it’s like a furrowed brow you you Stevie yeah oh no that I was bringing like a question I was like bringing yeah like I was really emphasizing I don’t know how to say this and I everything you need you know head tilt you know head tail arms come up like the Emoji um I everything you need neat although I feel like a German would never have a question when they speak they’re like very fully confident very direct yeah I am so more like unique yeah exactly no question marks exist in the German language and I mean like a chopping I mean a chopping motion um no I am everything you need yeah that’s automatically making a statement helps a lot with that feels more German yeah we need to we need to write to the Backstreet Boys I feel like this is a new a new translation well um speaking of the Backstreet Boys this is where I have my confession of 35 years that I’ve been holding in this time so of how many years well I said 35 but uh I mean 35 35 75 years um it’s about that since I won it that way it came out so 20 ish years I guess so sometimes people hear things and reinterpret the lyrics or mishear the lyrics 100 I always do that yes okay and for a shockingly amount of time I had no idea they were saying the word mistake in the in the chorus classic white man does not hear me right there wait give me the full lyric because I love that you’re entering into this thinking that the two of us have knowledge of the lyrics of this song I mean granted it is our podcast name so in the middle of the chorus there’s the line ain’t nothing but a mistake yes yeah yes tell me why exactly yeah be one year old I thought the lyrics were nothing but a Mia stay [Laughter] portion of my life when did you discover it in my 30s oh my God that’s a great I love fashion I was hoping for like murder but that I mean this is good this is the podcast full that I don’t think yeah no it’s not but I’ve had so many of this to be so awesome if that’s what you saved for the podcast you’re like have a confession to make and then you literally confess a crime yes I have the Golden State killer yeah if Jack confessed to murder on this podcast would you murder would you report him Stevie or would you just be like you know what let’s see what happens when when this airs you know we haven’t gone over that in our action and operations I would be like you know what you’ve taught us so many accents today it’s totally fine you murdered a number of people um so we’ll leave this unreported okay so I have a question what a question for all the Germans I have a question for both of you okay if we’re allowed to do it this way um are there any accents that are near and dear to your heart and if so why why because accents are more than just sounds they’re also representation yeah society and markers of social groups and so it’s always interesting to hear from people what speaks to them yeah I I I like this question I because near and dear to my heart is of course like the Persian accent the Iranian accent because I grew up hearing it but I am also very aware of like when I use the accent it’s often in a comedic way and there’s a little bit of a problem with that right to be making fun of the accent that my family speaks and recently I’ve had a couple of auditions or roles where I’ve had to be the Iranian person from Iran speaking English and so I’ve had to use the accent and I I became so aware of the fact that like wow when I do this I’m doing such a caricature of the accent that nobody can take this person seriously if I do it this way you know and so it becomes it makes the accent a joke and I think that’s like a that’s something for me to work through as as not doing it for the fun performance of it but doing it for like the I don’t know respecting the character and I don’t know how to I haven’t I haven’t yet figured it out no I think that’s super valid and also because representation of certain Accents in the media it’s very skewed that aren’t a ton of mainstream media Iranian shows where you hear just right everyday people just having conversations living their lives yeah the same thing I see a lot with a lot of the latinx community that I’ve had to coach some for auditions and they say my agent wants me to like I was born in Mexico my family’s Mexican they want me to sound different from how I am and it feels weird and I don’t like it yeah so yeah I think it’s an interesting point to navigate and yeah but you see a huge range of things on breakdowns for accents like you get that I had to coach someone on a vaguely European accent foreign specifically unplaceable European accent and I was like replaceable huh interesting so which part we had a lot of fun we took a little bit from here a little bit from there and just like did them in all the places so you can get something as big as that or you can have like this person grew up here and then they moved to here and then they spent seven years here and they’re like okay oh Jesus okay um so there’s a there’s a huge range of what you’ll see for auditions and roles um wait okay well I can’t I I we we gotta do French before you yeah I don’t even know what the next line of the song is so what is the next line of the song and how are we gonna French it up yeah it’s yeah better rock your body now oh you better rock your body now that seems the perfect thing to do in French are you there yeah yes all right so going back to it’s a second language accent we’re gonna put some of the rules from French into it first thing we’ve got to play around with is the letter R so dude you want to give it a go first no no Jack give me something I’ll give you the technical name then that will just give you an epiphany uh it’s a it’s a it’s a uvula Trill oh that sounds fancy right so basically that you feel as that little teardrop dangly thing at the back of your throat yeah yeah yeah and so it’s a little at this point I’ve forgotten yeah one more time I’m gonna rock your body now what is it yeah so um yeah you better rock your body now you better this sounds weird where do you and Jack stop are you uh where are you putting where what word do you want us to say let’s have a go let’s start with Rock and so the things to be careful of with this is we don’t want it to be a phlegmy just just airflow and then not too much of a hard cake on the end just a little sock oh for some reason I’m like given that we’ve done all these accents I can’t even I’m trying to remember what a French accent even sounds like Logan can you get her a beret just get her something that’s gonna get there in the mood a baguette yes okay here we go here I go trying it okay yeah what am I doing with my tongue am I saying it out no it stays flat it’s staying flat the back of the tongue is gonna hit that okay oh [ ] hook that was good Hulk yeah I think you found it now now the trick is on the word to do a little uh [Laughter] [Laughter] he’s like a little less of what you guys are doing a little bit more oh I like that did you hear everyone no what yeah yeah so yeah your body your your no just say the words he says I know but but what was your what was your just your rock your body body hook your body your body hook your body yeah exactly like a little lullaby you gotta shake your head side to side [ ] your body okay let me try hook your body you better hook your body now it’s like Jack stop you’re making me uncomfortable okay it’s so funny you better hock your body and very Sinister but I I like to lead into the bike for sure you bet you better you better hook your Zach I’m working [Laughter] can you say that now you better hook your body now ah you better [ ] do it now you better lock your body now exactly okay so then we can put all of them together oh oh no no no although we did miss out the line which is the most iconic line of the thing am I sexual oh we didn’t do that in French I can guess what that one is uh am I no I can’t wait what’s the action it’s American I do feel like when uh when anybody sings a song and with English words it sounds like a normal like no I shouldn’t say normal it sounds like an American accent because it’s sing-sangi I saw a tick tock recently and I don’t remember what band it was but it was a British British or Australian band and they were like this is what it would sound like if we sang in our accents and why we don’t so I think it’s a conscious Choice well how about this Logan why don’t you take amisexual in a Southern accent because that one I feel like comes naturally to you Miss North Carolina okay so wait am I the only one is the Essex one am I sexual well that’s Logan Southern okay am I everything you need um I’ll take the German no we’re all saying it no that’s the one that I excelled at Great you’ve got a good connection and then you can see friends Jack you tried to get her to what was it Fail Hard Robin strong I loved it wrong and strong and stronger yeah okay and then am I the only one yeah am I the only one yeah yeah good Logan am I sexual yeah yeah yeah yeah m m i everything you need am I everything you need yo oh yeah and I the French one I don’t know yeah there’s no yeah there I think what’s so there’s no yeah that’s incorrect oh my God guys am I everything you need because quick switch from German to French if you don’t put it you know putting that extra challenge in there that’s hair you better rock your your body now we gotta get a little Shrek and I love it [Laughter] don’t care all right I think we’re performance ready should we should we give it another guy that was that that was rehearsal that was right so so are you taking you’re taking Essex and again or are we gonna do it together we could start together and then split up okay and then yeah Nikki and you take the French and I’ll do the German and then shall I say am I original in something just to start us off you can be all the do you want to be all the Yaz but you have to be really enthusiastic yeah yeah yeah okay yeah okay we’re gonna we’re gonna go ready okay yeah we’re not singing though right it’s up to you saying it okay we can say it uh okay here we go okay ready three one two one two one two three that was not the right piece all right okay we’re gonna go around zero three two one am I sexual yeah am I everything you need you better rock your body now yeah okay Jack well I I know that we’ve now mastered uh Essex French and German um and and we wouldn’t have done it without you so thank you so much for joining us thank you I love it thank you Jack thank you thank you so much and I can’t wait I can’t wait to come to a reality show near you yeah me too with my new a success accent I’ll see you I’ll see you see you there thanks Jack see you then bye all right well I think we learned several things today we did learn a few accents we also learned the lyrics to um Backstreets back all right uh that was that was a nice surprise yeah like that happened to us like mid episode when we realized that’s what he was actually doing I appreciate Jack uh for bringing us back to the origin of our of our podcast also I realized like at one point he says like am I sexual and I just was like I guess that’s I guess he just wonders if he’s sexual and we’re not gonna say anything I was like look at Jack trying to make a joke and then yeah and he’s like oh what okay for this week’s awkward story of the week I thought because earlier in the episode you hadn’t realized I had been mistaken for Taylor Swift I would go into detail on on one of the times that I was mistaken for Taylor Swift one oh wow oh yeah there was a period of time like I said the further from La I got the more I got recognized but this particular awkward story was in the Heart of Los Angeles um and I don’t know I don’t know if I’ve told this publicly if I have I’d like our friends to pull up that version of the story that I told them compare it to the one that I’m about to tell because it’s been a minute um okay so Cassie and I went to this restaurant in downtown L.A this was like years ago I don’t even think this was 2018 bangs I think this was like the time before that that I had bangs it must have been yeah it must have been oh were these the Bjork bangs that were like way too short oh no that yeah yeah that was um when people asked me if I was from here the United States uh they were very short uh which I which I brought up with my hair stylist this past time and she was like oh my God I’m so sorry and I was like that’s right so you better pay special attention to the bangs this time [ ] no this was this must have been like a a little 10 11 years ago um so we went downtown for dinner and it was a restaurant we been to before but we walked in and everyone around us was like a young handsome man and I was like something is going on here um and we looked at the menu that was on the bar and it was like gay night and we were like okay it’s gay night uh that’s why there’s so many attractive gentlemen here and we were the only women that we could see in the whole place and so we sit down for dinner and a larger group comes in at like kind of an adjacent table we’re sitting at like a two top by the window and it’s all men except for one person and that is Chelsea Handler which is so on brand that it’s like you know six or seven handsome gay men and Chelsea at this table and um so Cassie’s like oh do you see who that is yeah and I’m like yes don’t talk about her because I don’t like to engage or you know I I don’t I’m I’ve turned I turn the other cheek too does it make you uncomfortable yeah when you see it yeah because I’m like yeah I’m like I don’t want I don’t want them to know that we’re noticing them I don’t want to like ruin their experience like I don’t know who the [ __ ] you are Chelsea yeah it’s just you’re a nobody yeah you’re nobody but I see you um and so uh at one point at dinner one of they had like an empty chair at their table and it fell backwards like someone had put something on it or something it fell backwards towards our table and so Cassie like got up and helped them put the chair back at this point Chelsea’s like at least a few drinks in and because this was like over 10 years ago I’m gonna say this is her peak of drinking um and she sees our table and Cassie’s like looking over that way and Cassie turns it back to me and goes oh my God she thinks that you’re Taylor Swift and I was like what are you talking about and she’s like I just saw her she said to the people sitting next to you to to her that you’re Taylor Swift I was like you’re you must have misheard or you’re being ridiculous or whatever all of a sudden I’m like looking down my plate and I look up and there’s like a hand that’s coming across the table to shake my hand and it’s Chelsea and she’s at the table and so I like shake her hand and she’s like hey I don’t know if you remember me I’m Chelsea we met at this party and at this point I’m like of course I know who you are but I’ve never been a party yeah I’ve never met you before and I don’t even recall what I said other than like I said like I’m Stevie and when I said that you could kind of see on her face she was like um I don’t think Stevie’s a nickname for Taylor Swift but she like you know pulled off the ref rest of the brief conversation and then went and sat down so freaking Chelsea Handler was smashed and thought that I was Taylor Swift just like casually sitting next to her in this downtown restaurant do you think that she then thought that you were Taylor Swift ignoring her and giving her the wrong name yeah listen she must have had a lot to drink to to have that whole interaction maybe I don’t know and and the fact that she thought that I was sitting there as Taylor Swift like uninterrupted by all the like hundreds of gay men in the restaurant like as if like what and what’s funny beyond that is that years later I actually became friends with her cousin who’s her producer and her former assistant who I’m still friends with now and like a couple years into being friends with them I was like guys I have to tell you this story um about Chelsea and they just died and so since then I’ve I’ve seen her like a handful of times around and and have not had the Taylor Swift uh interaction with her but I that’s a freaking that’s a good story that’s a good story great story yes yeah I like to tell a story and then go that was a great story about the story all right well that feel fills the awkward social slot of the week yeah although I gotta say that was that’s like one of those awkward moments that you like dream of having I hope I have an awkward story that’s actually just a fabulous story yeah I want to get mistaken like I said for eign [Laughter] well you know what let’s next time I see 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