ramble [Music] welcome to best friends back all right the show where two High School best friends try the best friend think again I’m negging homafed and I’m Steve you and Levine and today we are gonna talk about a legal substances we’re talking about alcohol man drugs maybe not drugs I don’t know I mean alcohol is a drug I don’t know do we sound cool I feel like I feel like um we didn’t really have a ton going on for us in high school to talk about all of that but like that’s exactly how you get people into the episode you start with we didn’t really have a lot going on uh oh my God I can’t wait to tell you guys about all the crazy [ ] we did in high school oh yeah that’s better how about the crazy [ ] you did this weekend how was your weekend we again was weekend was uh really fun I did something I’ve never done before I went to a golf tournament oh That’s so exciting okay hype it up more because right now okay I went to the Masters which is I think that’s like a big not one of the biggest yeah is that the Tiger Woods uh of it all yeah Tiger Woods was there um a lot of Peyton Manning was there the Jonas brothers were there you should have led with the Jonas Brothers for me okay a lot of white men why I mean why were you there what were you I was there because one of my college uh best friends and roommates invited me to go with her her family goes every year and I’m in Georgia this year and that’s where the Masters are held in Augusta Georgia so she invited me to go with her and it was a sea of men what what was the vibe was it like um like a polo match Vibe where you like dress nicely and then you like have flutes of champagne and like everyone’s wearing khakis it was a little more casual than that there were no flutes of champagne people had like cups of beer or cups of cocktails okay um and everyone was dressed in golf clothes or like khakis or a sundress okay tell me about the outfit what what were you rocking did you try and look like a golf person 100 yeah oh no 100 no no my friend I was like so what do I she was like you can wear golf clothes or a sundress I’m like okay I definitely don’t own golf clothes so I wore a dress and the first day it was so cold oh you went multiple days it was a two-day yeah I went for two days yeah yeah and bold bold because I know nothing about golf I mean so much so that I used to think that the higher the points the better when it’s actually the reverse I’ve been golfing a few times um one of the times I went golfing I I my my performance was was great surprisingly just due to luck but then towards the end of the course I was hit by a golf ball from someone else it was a public course so things were just crazy and I was there with um Cassie but like a group of guy friends and we had like pbrs that we had hidden and like we were having a great time and then the golf ball came and hit me in the back of the leg and it hurt it was also embarrassing and then the actions of all of my guy friends and Cassie were to like I guess want to confront this person in like a an intimidating like what what was that about what was that about type of thing and I was like like as if they targeted you I think that there’s golf etiquette that was um that was missed and then it just really pissed off all my guy friends and their khakis yeah um and I had a nice bruise uh and then the next time I went golfing I wasn’t very good so I think what happened was I got hit with the golf ball that changed the course from the trajectory of your golf yes yeah yeah yeah your golf life I get it and the nice thing I think about golf is that it’s so male heavy that the line to the bathroom for women is always short okay that was an amazing thing about this weekend is that anytime I had to use the bathroom I just waltzed right in past a I swear to God like a 200 person line of men great this is the point where we talk about vaginas okay I was waiting for it I was waiting for it and here we are okay well did you yourself have a cup of beer or a cocktail at at this uh at the Masters okay there are two like cocktail drinks that are very popular there one is called the Azalea which has grenadine in it it’s way too sweet for me and the other one is called uh confusion which has get this Welch’s grape juice oh in it okay I had me a couple of those and had a grand old time I love how you’re like the Grenadine one is too sweet for me so I went with the one with Welch’s grape juice Welch’s takes me back to the Manischewitz uh days of my youth which for those listening who don’t know is a disgusting like Jewish wine that they have at a different religious ceremonies but I think as we somewhat teased at the top we were good kids right we we were pretty decent kids we weren’t running off and uh doing bad girl things and for me I think it’s because I was always told growing up that teenagers were bad teenagers were really bad and they did bad things and those bad things were drugs and alcohol and smoking and I don’t know if you remember this but behind my house so there used to be a trail that kids would take to get to the local elementary school or middle school or high school and this Trail ran through the neighborhoods in such a way that sometimes it was in between houses and this was a trail that like my mom would have used if she was going to school and so by the time you know we were kids the trail you could you could pick it up in places but it it was a little bit overgrown or it had been hidden but there’s a trail that went through the neighborhood and one one of the parts of the trail butted up right against my house and next to the fence in the back of my yard I had of course a fort just one of those like you made one yourself no you know like the um swing set situation where there’s like swings and then there’s like a little fort Tower yeah so it was like that just the tower part and teenagers had been going uh up this path and like kind of hiding next to the Fort area in the back and smoking I don’t know if they were I mean honestly they were probably just smoking cigarettes because I think it probably was too hard to get anything else but I remember as a kid I would try and like make like slingshots and like throw things at these bad teenagers I don’t think I ever like hit anyone or anything but like I was like teenagers are bad like that was ingrained in me and part of the fort play was like getting those teenagers out of the box Fort play is what I like to call it um and actually one year the uh house next door the part that butted up against that trail was their like garage building it caught on fire because of a probably a teenager smoking out back so you like to want to do drugs I I didn’t want to be like that I I saw the bad side I saw the fiery depths of it did you ever did you ever do the Dare program as a kid or did you just have this like drug resistance education from your back Trail like you didn’t need it I think I remember adjacent things to DARE like I remember visits by policemen and and and firemen that was part of the Dare program was it okay yes so Dare for those of you who are too young to know it’s the drug abuse resistance education program it’s called like re or keeping it real now that’s that’s the Rebrand really we are keeping it real keeping it capital r capital e capital a capital l that stands for something keeping it real but the Dare program was around for decades and at its height Stevie 75 of schools in the United States had the Dare program nice isn’t that crazy to you you I think that the Dare program obviously took on like some kind of pop culture like Renaissance because it you know the Dare t-shirts and kind of the logo they they just print on things now and I think it’s yeah everybody loves it yeah it’s like oh you’re telling me not to do drugs if I’m wearing this shirt I do drugs as funny you say that because lots of studies showed that there was little to no impact on rates of teen drug use so that was like they spent billions of dollars in a program that actually showed no no positive drug prevention I have a lot of memories of dare and I specifically like fifth grade in my in my elementary school and there was something called a t like a national dare day when everybody in the school would get together and there we had skits and performances and if you were lucky you were chosen to be a big puppet oh yes basically oh really that’s what we looked like you were like I hope I get to be the blunt this year we had to take pillowcases and paint on them like faces and you put them on top of your body and I remember of course I did everything last minute as a kid I was a big time procrastinator and it was like the night before or the morning of and my mom was so mad at me because I was like I need a white pillowcase from house to become this puppet and we were dancing around the gym singing the song d I won’t do drugs a won’t have an attitude or I will respect myself E I will educate me now oh my God no but let’s do it again and a remix D I don’t do drugs or she will respect herself we I will educate me now the reason is just me going in the background wow that is a jam I can’t believe kids didn’t do drugs after hearing that oh my goodness yeah especially fifth graders I see I was terrified like something scared the crap out of me and I don’t know if it was just my parents it certainly wasn’t that song because I’ve never heard it before but like I that it reminds me of maybe you guys sang it in Hebrew [Laughter] take it away uh no it was like God will Smite you if you um you remember they used to come and do the like drinking and driving uh programming at high school too okay that’s that was also super scarring because they’d have someone that would come in and they’d have some kind of huge negative experience with the drunk driver and again you’re associating alcohol with this terrible thing that’s happened death and yeah exactly and like so all of that stuff I was really scared of like what could result and had no idea of like oh a sip is different than a full drink or two or three years it was just like yeah it was like oh my God I better stay away from this stuff do you remember the first time that you had a drink I remember this is not the first time I had a drink but it’s the first time I felt like I was an adult having a drink and I was definitely a teenager having a drink but it was it was at Duke when I went to go visit my sister because again freshman year she went to she was her freshman in Duke as well yeah so I went to go visit and I remember that I had peach schnapps and boy did I feel fancy I mean here I am talking earlier about grenadine being disgusting peach schnapps uh I can I just remember it coming out of there I think it was in their freezer and they poured a little and I don’t even know if it was mixed with anything but I remember just being like Oh yeah a schnapps German right [Laughter] the international liqueur and then I was exposed to like white Russians which are basically like a milkshake yeah yeah yeah and anytime I could order a White Russian which was probably a total of like five times in my high school experience that’s actually a really high number I was gonna say what the heck it’s probably two and when I say order I mean like ask one of my sister’s friends to make it I didn’t know that you were doing all this exploration freshman year freshman year of high school no sorry I totally gave you the wrong impression freshman year of my high school she went into do yeah and so I had four years of opportunity at Duke to experiment in a safe space yeah and the drinking started maybe I don’t know like I had and when I say the drinking started you mean the should not drink yeah when did the schnapps start I need to know when the Schnucks was like sophomore year junior year okay and and I had a drink my sister was not like guzzling me with alcohol but it was like a safe place for me to try and I and I think that’s a big part of the the why I didn’t drink and maybe probably why you didn’t it’s like it felt really unsafe and that’s what I’m saying it was terrifying like if I if I am doing this like I need to be in one place for the entirety of the night okay that leads me into my first time I had a drink so you know I was friends with a bunch of the girls in the grade above us and uh the first time I I don’t I’m hesitant to say got drunk I would say like got a buzz was junior year of high school and there’s one photo from that night which is very helpful because it triggers my memory I by the way at that time had dyed my hair dark brown because yes you know I went abroad for that semester and everybody was like I’m getting a tattoo I’m doing whatever and I was like I’m making a poor decision as well yeah so there’s this picture of me with dark brown hair and one of those those like ugly ass like little caps with a poof on it like you know those like drama kid little caps with like the small brims I don’t even know what you call them so I’m wearing that and of course a polo and uh and there’s soft drinks on the table and of course these leaders of soft drinks uh means that there was alcohol that was not on there yeah so they this group of girls and it was like a handful of girls they had um just started experimenting with with drinking and I was like the younger one and so like the evening was about like shepherding me into drinking alcohol and it was a sleepover because yes like we were smart even at that time it was like okay no one’s driving anywhere right no one has to be anywhere and like you said I I feel like it was I it was the best possible like initiation because you were in like a safe space with just girls only in pajamas like laying on the floor and sleeping bags and then like I just remember um you know when the alcohol started hitting and it starts feeling different I just remember like laying there and being like oh this is what it feels like and I was able I was in such a safe space I was able able to like vocalize those things I didn’t feel embarrassed and like it was kind of an awesome experience yes was this also was this a sleepover where your crush was yeah oh yeah wow did that do you did that like layer any kind of excitement into it oh of course yeah always it was uh it was that relationship was always like on the edge and yeah that like always being on the edge is so exciting especially when alcohol is involved and sleeping bags yeah um and it was like oh my gosh I I can’t remember um what the alcohol was I know it was cheap and terrible I it must have been cheaper vodka or like a pla yeah like a candle vodka or was it cheap and terrible or was it nice because somebody took it from now no no no no this was like a cheap vodka or like a Bacardi situation I’m sure you know like that that type of thing so I was always par again the fear fear has a big deal plays a big role in high school life but I was always fascinated by like how people would keep alcohol and the fact that they were consuming alcohol in their homes from their parents I don’t think they did I think that parents knew always to an extent because okay that reminds me of another uh drinking time that I recall and I don’t think you were I don’t think you were there do you were you at one time we got a bunch of vodka at childhood friend’s house I don’t remember okay also I just love the fact that there were so few memories of drinking that were like do you remember that one time when we traveled yes one thousand percent so okay so from and this wasn’t the next time I had a drink but essentially I remember that we got um somehow we got a bunch of vodka in childhood friends basement and it was like a group of uh girls and this was the following year because I became like the one that had a drink or had some like drinking experience and this group of girls and I don’t I feel like you weren’t there hadn’t had any drinking experience so I was like guys it’s totally fine I have had stuff to drink and I will Shepherd you through this experience tonight and her parents were home it’s just that her house was [ ] huge and we were like okay we’re having a sleepover we’ll do it in the basement they won’t know they won’t know okay so what I recall about that night is trying to um there was one girl and I can’t remember who but every time she would take a shot it would come back up immediately and I was like this is a new experience it was an up Check Yes but it wasn’t even like it wasn’t like I’m gonna swallow this and then vomit’s gonna come up it was like I’m gonna swallow this and it’s gonna come back it was so weird I was like I’m sorry in all my wisdom I’ve never experienced this before I don’t know how to help you and then once everybody was like a little bit buzzed I remember that they were like I don’t even remember who it was but so and so boys are um up the street and they want to come over like should we should we meet them in the street and I’m sure like this was like a pickup truck situation and so we all snuck out of the basement but we didn’t realize that her parents had like an alarm system and when We snuck out of the basement it alerted them that we were sneaking out and they were like everything okay down there and we’re like yes we’re just going on a walk but like crazy for a smoke break yeah clearly we were drinking alcohol and then going to meet a group of boys in the middle of the street for a reason I don’t know and then the other thing I remember about that is speculative Crush number one she got very sick and so I spent a lot of time holding her hair back in the bathroom and I got a um this is so gross I don’t even know why I’m saying this I got a washcloth and I like wet it so it was super cold to put on her head thinking that like she is in a state at which she can keep a a washcloth on her head nope she was not it went into the toilet with everything else and I was like I don’t know what to do right now because I’m the one who’s supposed to be taking care of people and who’s supposed to know what’s up but I’ve never had a friend like you were in over your head see and none of these stories sound that fun it’s never it’s not like it’s well I mean yeah but I can imagine like the stress of it all too like you it’s fun it’s fun until somebody takes it a little bit too far and then you just don’t know what to do yeah right and this is the thing with drinking is like how would you know when that’s okay it’s enough that’s what was enough there wasn’t zero education about that because all of it it’s like the abstinence thing all the education was about don’t drink because it’s terrible but no one was like Hey a normal amount of alcohol to have is this amount uh it’s okay to have a cup of something yeah a cup a cup and the reason I say a cup is because it’s not like we were all on a college campus together everybody had to drive home eventually unless you were spending the night somewhere yeah so like the reality in Greensboro it’s like teach us how to drink responsibly yeah so that so that we don’t get into accidents so that we can experiment a little bit without endangering other people yes for ourselves yes because kids are gonna try it foreign [Music] I have a story about really not knowing how much alcohol to drink and it involves you and I don’t know if you remember this but before that so there was a a famous time at which we joined you at Duke to visit your sister and I I know the number one memory of uh for you of that time because you bring it up all the time I bring it up all of the time yeah you mean the peach schnapps of it all or no my sister’s birthday what I was wearing oh I love what you were wearing oh my gosh can I intro the story a little bit yeah so it was my sister’s 21st birthday and she and her friends were all having like a joint blowout birthday at this cool Lounge in Durham North Carolina and and everybody you know this was the era of like going out jeans and a or sorry jeans and a going out top going out top and so I I had an idea of what to wear and I was trying to tell Stevie and our other friend Lucinda Melvin what they should wear as well and I was like just go to like Forever 21 and you’ll find like any of their tops will do and I think you and your mom go shopping and Stevie sends me a picture of the shirt and it’s really cute it’s like this red this green top that’s a little bit sheer it’s a spaghetti Strack tank top it’s really cute she shows up and she shows up and that [ ] got a lining to make it no longer sheer to make it a no longer sheer tank top to take away this X Factor and she she basically has like a modesty clothing under under her going out and she’s still looking cute it was like God it was like a tight nude undergarment yeah underneath the tank top right uh yeah I feel like it basically was like oh do you think she has a belly button nope do you remember if you wanted to cover up or your mom you know it’s interesting because I I guarantee you there was no part of me that was like this top is awesome there’s no part of me that was like this Forever 21 like halter spaghetti thing is my thing and I’m gonna rock it it was yeah totally like oh this is what girls are supposed to wear I’ll wear this and and it’s funny that you set it up that like you were telling me what to get because again it’s like yeah that’s easy instructions to follow like go to Forever 21 and get a going out top any top will do and I was like green one this is a green one will work yes and then and then uh put that underneath I don’t know I think maybe it was probably a mom thing but no that doesn’t make sense my because my mom knew our parents had to know that we were going to have a drink at this party and by the way I completely forgot it was your sister’s 21st birthday because that is big of her like to be like hey baby sister and baby sister’s friends come to my 21st freaking birthday party bash in your weird ass nude tops like that is she’s a good sister she’s a good sister yeah I don’t remember much from that evening I don’t think it’s because we had so much to drink because again like we weren’t I don’t believe we were drinking in the open um and or it wasn’t it wasn’t acceptable for us to there there were no yeah I don’t even remember drinking there we may have I think we did for the drinks of it at all because the next morning I remember being a little disheveled uh in some kind of way but got wild I’ve never wore that top again I framed it and I said this was the night that I don’t remember um well okay so your sister also was the cool older sister that provided alcohol for one of the only if not the only like quote party I ever had when my parents were out of town do you remember this at all I have very vague memories of it so fill me in okay so again good kids this was I it must have been our senior year or maybe not because I remember the older girls were there it was our junior year I guess it had to have been our junior year and I was like let’s have a little sleepover and let’s have alcohol because that’s cool and there’s this thing people do yeah and somehow uh your sister you got word to your sister that like you needed alcohol for this for some reason I remember her being there at the start like as if she helped you drop off the alcohol and I remember the alcohol very specifically it was a few bottles of flavored Smirnoff vodka a few bottles and maybe I invited like maybe 12 people but that seems like a little bit more like that that was the max capacity of the people who were here were your parents out of town they were out of town and it’s funny because I was back home recently and my neighbor um my like closest neighbor I saw him and he brought up this story of like it’s funny because uh we always knew when something was going on because you had like a lot of cars in your driveway or around or whatever and I was like oh God like he remembers me as this little teenager and of course it was like one time that this happened but right um and he was talking about how his ma his mom used to live with him and she was older and she would like spend all her time looking out the window and she was like updating him constantly I’m like how many cars were there yeah yeah yeah so I remember you and nazneen being showing up first before everybody else and then I remember taking like I’m not exaggerating when I say about seven shots of this vodka before anyone got there because I had no like real idea of the difference between taking one shot and seven shots and I was like I’m gonna be cool and when they get here I’m gonna have a buzz and it’s gonna be great and so um you know people start showing up and this was the time too when like playing drinking games with cards also seemed cool and so people start and this is like it was probably like light outside at this point but people start showing up and I’m drunk at this point because I’ve had seven shots of vodka and I’m a tiny baby and I remember that art school boy came and he was like hey I brought weed and I was like oh my God we did not account for this yeah I was like this is illegal and if the cops came in right now to bust up this dozen person quiet party where music isn’t even really playing this is easy yes I would get arrested I would do hard time and my drunk mind was like like it like zoomed in I was like oh my God I like I was like I can’t believe you brought this and of course he was like so you got mad at him I got upset and very scared and he was like I’m gonna go down the street and smoke it and I was like absolutely not the neighbors are clearly watching from their house and I just freaked out that like he had something that seemed so crazy and I ran upstairs uh away from him in the situation and uh once I reached the top of the stairs that’s when I was like imagining you just falling back no it was so dramatic and I reached the top of the stairs and I was like uh oh the rest of this night’s not gonna go very well because I’ve had seven shots of vodka it just got very upset probably haven’t had anything to eat and then I went into the bathroom and just vomited for the rest of the night oh my gosh that was the one party that I had and I remember waking up at a certain point and some some girls had put me in I had this like bubble gum pink Gap sweatshirt that was uh the you know the ones that said Gap across them yeah it was a with the front pocket yeah it was bubble gum pink and like fuzzy and I remember waking up on the floor of one of the rooms in my house and I had this like Gap sweatshirt on and I was like and uh that was uh that was mine oh my God party experience so what is wild like this happened in a safe place in your home okay which is on its own like you know great great I’m glad you had that thing happened to you in your home what is wild to me is when people our age would do it in public what yeah you know like I because I don’t have many memories of of certainly we weren’t drinking in no like the like a real party environment but do you remember do you remember other people yeah and well I really just have one experience that has just stayed in my mind since since it happened but it was it happened at one of the school dances I think it was like a homecoming dance or something like that I went with um I went with this guy and his group of friends you know you would go to these dances and then you would take pictures ahead of time with your friends or his friends and it was all with all of his friends and wait who was they were this was homecoming date okay okay and so we go to the dance oh sorry we we get to the dance and we’re in the parking garage and this is a group of people who definitely like would regularly go out and go like and drink and in the parking lot they start drinking and you’re like oh no ask me yeah and I remember them asking like do you want any and me saying like no thank you basically you go girl that song was playing in your head you were like I won’t do drugs I was like no I’m sorry I respect myself hell yeah and and it was it’s like it’s like you know there’s a ton of peer pressure they weren’t pressuring me to drink but the fact that all of them were drinking yeah was pressure enough and I remember feeling like a little lame for not joining them but also very worried about like okay but we’re about to go that’s what I was going to say yeah full of school administrators yeah full of like parents that are chaperoning this dance who are all looking for that but like that’s the only reason they’re there is to see who smells like alcohol yeah who smells like alcohol weed and who is grinding on the Dance Floor those are like the things they’re there to look for and so I said no and they were like drinking by the by the trunk of the car and I felt pretty awkward so I was like am I supposed to give them space so that they can drink you know like am I a buzz kill by not drinking I was so conscious of like not making them feel awkward were you alone not drinking you were the only one not drinking I remember being the only one not drinking so I I like I’m in a formal red gown and I like in high heels that I’m probably uncomfortable walking in and I remember like taking a few steps away and looking away because that’s the only way I could imagine making myself and them feeling comfortable about this situation so anyway fast forward they’ve had a lot to drink and like an hour into the dance I’d look over and my date is making out with another girl soccer girl another girl from the soccer team another girl who recently I was like she’s gotta be gay right and now I guess not not as she was making out with him on the Dance Floor getting it right right because that’s what that means right yeah and I remember seeing that and being mortified like oh my gosh jerk I think I had a little crush on him too at that time so I saw this but you know what how I dealt with it same way I dealt with the drinking in the garage I looked away pretended like it wasn’t happening oh because I was so ashamed and then I think for me that like the messiness you you are like that’s what drinking leads to making out with other girls if I drink too hauler that’s what I was thinking if I drink too hard I’m gonna make out with other girls in your case that could have happened but yeah I just remember being so kind of like so turned off by how messy that looked yeah and it was probably like ever clear or something drinking like some disgusting like mouthwash small bottle situation and then yeah I bet that make it was nasty yeah get it I mean don’t bet his mouth was gross yeah so anyway so I was I was pretty turned off from from public drinking drinking I mean House Parties were a thing totally I don’t recall going to many I recall going to some and some were like more like friend hangs at which the main event was like um uh beer pong you know like there was like some room where they were playing beer pong and then it was like a bunch of boring people with like fishing shirts and like uh croakies is that what it’s called you know the croakies on the yeah on your glass yeah like Oakleys with croakies yeah and like khaki pleated shorts and like a shirt with a fish on it it was like a bunch of those dudes and then like yeah and and I totally I never recall going to one of those things and being like Oh okay I have to drink here it wasn’t that type of thing um but there was beer do you remember what the beer of high school choice was I don’t remember I don’t know something cheap because at um Syracuse I remember Natty light and Keystone what is it called the uh uh Keystone I think there’s like a Keystone Light but I remember like Natty like like disgusting like if these things are warm like it’s not worth picking them up like but I don’t remember a similar thing in high school yeah I don’t I remember that like people would show up kind of with their own alcohol yeah yeah because that’s the only if you wanted to drink it wasn’t guaranteed that you could find there but I remember the parties like again like you I wasn’t going to very many House parties at all but the ones I remember are ones from our rival high school because I went to middle school with a bunch of people from that went to our rival High School I didn’t I didn’t go to any of these with you I don’t think so yeah I went to like a couple and I remember it being a little bit easier to go to actually because you didn’t know I was I didn’t know anybody I knew very few people and I didn’t need to like I don’t know I it could feel a little bit more Anonymous and like I’m catching up with that one friend I haven’t seen in a long time yeah than anything but I don’t know people were I I was always kind of like really focused on the logistics of it like okay you’re coming to this party and drinking but then wet yeah yeah yeah how are you gonna get home in time how are you gonna not get caught yeah do all these things and so yeah the drinking the drinking experimentation was not a big part of the uh of the life in high school because I had Science Olympiad Saturday morning yeah yeah yeah yeah I had to wake up early do you okay so there’s a thing about if you’re if you’re a kid who’s like in this like good kid bubble and you don’t do a lot of drinking or drug experimentation in high school they say that when you get into college and you’re like away from your parents and that type of supervision for the first time you just go crazy was that the Bonkers for you no it wasn’t but that’s because I went to a college where everyone else was pretty similar to me in high school where everybody was so focused on grades that once it came well that’s actually not true there were some people I remember hearing a lot of stomach pumping stories our freshman year but like no my my group of friends were like I think pretty safely experimental but I didn’t I don’t remember going wild listen Syracuse was not here nasty yeah I think that again like not having a gauge of like as an adult human being you know that if you have a cocktail you know your limit of well first of all as a 34 year old uh woman I very much know my limit because everything hurts now no matter what it is and I’ll have a glass of wine and I’ll wake up and feel terrible it’s coming for you kids um but at the time like you didn’t really you still didn’t really know your limits like those seven shots of vodka I had and then the night I spent throwing up I didn’t learn my lesson enough I was like I guess this is what drinking is we’ll do it again and again and like you know every weekend you would go into the shared dorm bathroom and then you would see like a random leg sticking out of one of the [ ] stalls and you’re like who was it this weekend who’s passed out in the bathroom um and it was normal um right so yes when I got to college that that nobody was uh not drinking so yes that was it was constant and you know unfortunately freshman year was like when you still didn’t quite understand that that you didn’t want to hang out at the Frat houses so like there were frat parties and there were dorm parties and there was a lot of drinking that went on and I I feel like to an extent it’s true that if you’re uh if you don’t do any of that stuff in high school that you’ll really go hard but I also feel like everyone else around me was doing the same thing and they had been drinking in high school they had already done it yeah but I certainly made some very poor choices my my freshman year of college but choices that I think had to be made in life you know yeah I don’t know where I stand on this yet but I’m curious for you like I don’t know if you actually want kids do you want children I don’t think so no okay well if you can think about yes I want children not right right this moment but I want children and so I think about do you want to have children right now on the podcast do you want to make a baby Zach Zach should we do this honey um but I I think about what kind of limits we would we would impose for our kids or like how do we help them experiment or learn so they don’t have to learn in the hard way but then I’m like you do kind of have to have that terrible experience of drinking too much where you hurt yeah to learn that you don’t want to get to that point yeah I don’t know I I feel like parenting is going to be really hard and to figure out like how do you protect your child well also that that’s how you get to be um the parent that says if you’re gonna drink I’d rather you drink here that and but you that also is not appealing to be that type of parent so like yeah I have no idea see this is why I don’t want because it’s also illegal did you know that as a parent like if you if the party is busted oh yeah you were there you could get in trouble so I’m still gonna be afraid of the cops at 30 be some or 40 some years old oh yeah yeah it’s anyone who’s uh of legal drinking age who is around minors drinking is responsible ultimately for the miners drinking and the situation I mean so that drama school teacher school teacher oh yeah yeah you should I was pushing the limits I feel like if you were to take the Dare song and and and make it more like whispery slow it down some some uh you can do this okay and then what you’re going to want to do is when you have a kid that becomes the lullaby so and then and and then when they’re old enough to not have lullabies then you start telling them stories and the stories are dare provided stories and you’re just you’re seeping this into their conscious so that as they grow up they’re remembering that they can just say no D I won’t do drugs hey I won’t have an attitude ah I just have the same ring to it but I really love this idea oh wait reading it a was attitude I missed that yeah a was I won’t I won’t have an attitude yeah I won’t have an attitude oh my gosh in the first stanza of this song is people can tell me what they’ve done maybe some things maybe none but people can’t tell me what to do I will choose the way that’s true for me wow this program was all about how can we Empower someone so much that they don’t fall victim yeah to insecurity which leads to drinking they crazy so that they’re gonna sit in the front seat while everyone drinks in the uh in the tailgate so looking back at our adolescent uh alcohol and drug journey is there anything that you would do differently I think when I look back on times in my life where I could have been a little Wilder or tried different things it’s really I was I didn’t realize that doing that thing wasn’t going to change the trajectory of my life yeah you know it really wasn’t a big deal I could have had really a lot more fun stories to share with you guys no but I mean and we’ll get into like this like path to college which obviously you took very seriously at winding up at Harvard uh but um yeah I sometimes look back at my high school experience and go yeah what what else could I have [ ] up that would have been really fun and like you know in in mult in every episode that we’ve done I’ve had that piece of me that’s like oh man like I mean not that I would have come out in high school but like it we took things so freaking seriously yeah what would have happened if we didn’t take things that seriously seriously yeah yeah totally all right all righty well I’m gonna go get drunk now um I have had to go to the bathroom for the last 30 minutes so I am so excited to wrap things up thanks for listening to best friends back all right this Sunday April 24th I want to remind our listeners that our very first episode of inside eats with Rhett and Link on Food Network premieres at 10 30 p.m the guys go to Chipotle and ask what does your Chipotle order say about you we had so much fun making this show I think you’ll have a lot of fun watching it this Sunday April 24th at 10 30 p.m and you can catch brand new episodes of best friends back all right every Friday make sure to follow so you don’t miss an episode if you’re enjoying the podcast leave us a review if you’re not well anyway you can follow at mythical pods on Tick Tock for Clips to share with family and friends you can follow me at Nike and Stevie everywhere at steview Levine and of course you can hear me every Monday through Friday on Good Mythical Morning with Rhett and Link at youtube.com good mythical morning I’ll see you there