(theme music) – Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I’m Rhett. – And I’m Link, this week at the round table of dim lighting we have our friend, Mayim Bialik, who, she’s on Big Bang Theory. – I heard of that show. – She’s also been a guest on Good Mythical Morning. – She’s also on GMM. – She’s gonna be in Buddy System, she’s that much of a friend that we keep getting her on our stuff everywhere. She’s nice to us, she also wrote a book that we’re gonna talk about, Girling Up, how to be strong, smart and spectacular, neuroscientist, actress, grown up girl, Mayim Bialyk, Ph. D wrote this thing. And we’re gonna have a special guest, very dear to my heart, my daughter Lily is gonna join the conversation with Mayim. – Really? – Yeah, you know how I know that she’s going to? Because we already recorded that. And she’s also still sitting right there. – We had a great conversation, Lily will make you question if she’s actually related to Link, that’s how well spoken and smart she is. – (Laughs) You know what, thank you, I’ll take that backhanded compliment. – Before we get into that conversation, when this podcast goes up it will be one day before the Streamys. – Yeah so tomorrow night, on release day for this thing, we’ll be all dolled up, man. To take home some awards, hopefully. – Yeah and I think we kind of made this clear, but just, and we probably will have made it clear in other ways before this podcast, but you know, we believe in, we think the Streamys are a great thing, we believe in the concept of an Internet award show, and I don’t even necessarily, first of all, the vast majority of the awards that will be given tomorrow night are things that are determined by an actual academy committee or whatever. – And what awards are we up for? – We’ve got Buddy System. – Buddy System is for comedy. – GMM show of the year and then Buddy System for best director as well, for John Fortenberry, director of season one of Buddy System. So we’d love to take one of those home, but specifically show of the year and personality of the year, person, I don’t know what it is. – Which we are not nominated for, person of the year, personality. – The way they determine those is by popular vote and we honestly were like, we made a big push for this, last year or the year before, I don’t know, and everybody did all this work, and it was just like, I always felt a little bit dirty asking for votes, because you have to constantly bombard people. – Because people vote and they can vote, they can bombard votes, a whole bunch in a day, every day leading up to the thing. – I think you can just do once in a day, but I mean I’m sure people do multiple accounts, and people end up doing a lot of work, it takes a lot of work to do it, so anyway. – And we, yeah you’re right, we haven’t felt great about asking. – Always feel weird about asking for votes for anything, I just wanna win an award based on merit, but I do understand the strategy. – And listen, part of the strategy is that when you vote on Twitter or wherever you vote, it churns a conversation about the Streamys. – Which I believe in. – And so by design it’s something that they engage fans to talk about who they’re passionate about, and also talk about something that they may not be passionate about which is the Streamys. – Well when you get all these influences of people… – Make it a relevant part of the, a more relevant part of the conversation, which is their strategy. – Well yeah and I’m not faulting the strategy, it’s one of the reasons we’re talking about the Streamys right now, but as you know, instead of we ask people instead of putting the effort into helping us win, to put some effort into helping to protect net neutrality, and just wanted to talk briefly about that because, you know… – Because we sent people to save the internet dot com. – My thoughts on this, because a lot of people, I know that net neutrality is relatively controversial, because essentially you’ve got two sides of this issue, you’ve got the pro net neutrality side which is saying that internet service providers shouldn’t be able to discriminate in terms of the content that’s on their infrastructure, and then you’ve got, which would involve a government regulation in order to protect that, and then you’ve got the anti… – Whereas they could do, I mean they would be much less limited, or unregulated to do what the heck they wanted with their pipes. – But the other side of the coin is, against net neutrality, and this is a position that I sympathize with because I generally do believe that getting the government out of systems can be helpful, I’m pretty independent on this but I do sympathize with the position that this could be a government regulation which then would stifle innovation, so if you’ve got these people that are investing all this money into networks and infrastructure and then you’re imposing regulation on them, then you may stifle them, if you treat the internet as a utility then it’s almost like what happened with phones, you know, how did phone line technology change over the 50 years that we were using them or whatever, it’s not exactly an apples to apples comparison but I do sympathize with the argument that this additional regulation could stifle innovation, but here’s what I’ll say, regardless of whether, I still feel great about sending people to save the internet and to lobby their congressman. – And I will jump in before you balance that, the reason why we said it is cause from our perspective, I wanna protect against a situation where the way that we came up, this is not just about Internetainment, but that’s our experience, the way we came up was on a platform where you could access our videos just as easy as you could access a bonafide television show which a bunch of gatekeepers funded and said okay this is something you should watch, and so it gave us the ability to be seen and to create, to develop a show, a business, to become entertainers, when otherwise, before the Internet, you had to convince a small group of people, gatekeepers, to allow you to make something that they would then put in front of their eyeballs, that they had earned through their network. – And theoretically without net neutrality, the infrastructure providers could discriminate against content, now what I will say, even though some people I saw some comments that were like, there’s absolutely no evidence of anybody doing that, well that’s not true, there are documented cases of those principles being infringed upon, but I do believe that competition between service providers, if somebody’s like, if Comcast comes along and says I’m going to throttle Youtube or Netflix, people will probably gonna go to AT&T or Verizon because well they’re not throttling those things that so many people are using, so the argument is, if you just take the government’s hands out of it, that the consumers will win because there will be competition, I’m not saying I disagree with that principle, but this is what I think, and this is the whole point that I’m trying to get to, that I feel like is what makes our country and our political system a great thing and I also think it goes back to this whole building bridges not walls thing that we’ve been trying to talk about which is how we want to speak into these political situations, is that I think that we’re in a place in our country right now where if you believe, if you’re on one side of the issue, of any particular issue, you demonize everybody on the other side of the issue, you believe that they have absolutely no merit to their argument, and I actually think that there’s merit to both sides of this argument, and because of who’s in power right now, and who is the chairman of the FCC, we know what those interests are, so I think that it’s healthy and balancing to speak to the consumer interest to say hey, I don’t exactly know where this is gonna come down in terms of legislation, but speaking up and going to save the internet dot com and saying that we wanna make sure that consumers are protected and content is not throttled or discriminated against, that will ensure that whatever legislation does get passed, increases the chances that the consumer and the market will both be taken into account respectively and will get the best result, you see what I’m saying? So I’m saying that I feel great about sending people to save the internet dot com and to get them to take that action because we need a balancing force with this particular issue right now and hopefully wherever the legislation lands, it will be the best compromise, because I do believe that there’s a compromise, you don’t want to kill this thing with government regulation, and you don’t want to say completely hands off and then the almighty dollar is the ultimate motivator and then people especially poor people usually end up suffering more than rich people and the inequality divide increases so all that to be said, those of you who kinda commented on our video when we said hey we’re sending people to save the internet and we’re pro net neutrality, who were like you guys are stupid, one guy was like, I guess this is just a reminder, I like you guys because of your comedy not because you’re intelligent because if you’re pro net neutrality you’re obviously an idiot, thanks for that thoughtful comment. But I appreciate the people who came into the comments and gave the opposing argument in an intelligent and respectful way, I believe in that kind of dialogue, but what I’m saying is that in spite of the fact that I think there are some legitimate arguments on that side of the table, there are legitimate arguments on this side of the table as well, and this applies to so many different issues that we are struggling with right now, let’s not demonize a whole group of people, let’s say what is the interest that they have, what are they scared of right now, and is there a way to address that need in a way that we can increase the good for the most people, I think that’s a mythical thing to do. And I think it applies in net neutrality. But you still should go to save the internet dot com and lobby. – Or if you don’t agree, you can read about it some more, we’re bringing attention to an issue, and then you can, you don’t have to agree with us, and we don’t expect, we’re not comfortable asking people who love our content to vote for us to win something, so I’m not comfortable asking people to just do something cause I said it. – Yeah, just go read about it. – For save the internet. – If you developed an informed opinion about net neutrality, either way that you fall on the issue, I consider that a victory because at least you know what the issue is and what’s at stake and then we can move forward in the best possible way. – I think one of the things we can agree on is that you like listening to Ear Biscuits. – Hey. – And maybe something else you can agree on is supporting the things that support making this a possibility. – Yes. – Which in one case, is our own stuff. – Yeah exactly. – You can support us by buying the new mythical pomade. – It’s new in that the packaging is all new, but it is the same, almost an award winning, I think it might have won some awards, people listen. – It won Streamy show of the year, last year. – Let me tell you. – We got everybody to vote for this pomade. – People love these Beard and Lady products, we partner with Beard and Lady to develop the pomade, the beard oil and the lip balm, and we’re doing some other stuff soon. – This one’s still sealed. – People absolutely love this, this stuff is so high quality, there’s several salons that’re just giving this out now. – Awesome. – There’s salons that’re insisting on having the pomade. – This is actually good stuff, good for you, but now the packaging, the packaging is even gooder, I mean, our faces are not on it. – Well and just to let you know, you mythical beasts, one of the things we’re trying to do with the pomade and the beard oil and all this stuff, cause it’s all gonna have new packaging, is that there’s a lot of people, we’re not just trying to develop these things and say hey, you know who we are, and you might wanna buy this, but we’re trying to create a product line that’s a legitimate contender in that particular market and so by calling it mythical pomade as opposed to slapping Rhett and Link on there, who are those guys, this brand can have an opportunity to develop a life of it’s own. – And I love the logo that we’ve got here, so the new version of the Randler, is what’s happening on all of our grooming mythical products, look at that angular design. – It’ll hypnotize you if you turn it fast enough. – I turned it, Lando looked at it upside down and he said it looks like a weird chicken. – It does, it looks like a chicken. – The antlers become feet of a big headed cardinal. – But the reason we’re doing this new shape is because in testing we determined that it is easier to access the pomade with a wider opening. – A dab’ll do ya, support internetainment. – Mythical dot store. – Go into mythical dot store. – You can also pick this up on Amazon too. – And now on with the biscuit. (theme music) Last time I saw you, we were in a morgue together. – That’s right, we were. – In a six drawer morgue. – It was creepy. – It was so creepy. For Buddy System season two, I should say. – And since then, we, especially Link, has watched you in that morgue countless times. – That’s even creepier. – Countless times. – Was it part of the editing process, I hope. – It was part of my professional job. – He calls it his little encouragement clip, every morning he wakes up. – I need to see my Mayim in the morgue, encouragement clip. – Mayim in the morgue in the morning. – There’s a sentence that’s never been uttered in the history of the planet. – We had, remember that, we had a little segment on some show. – That we did. – It was called Never Been Said Before. – That’s a Noam Chomsky thing, the linguist, yeah, he had a whole thing about the unbelievable thing about our consciousness is we can understand that we can create sentences that have never been said before, words that shouldn’t even belong together, we have the ability to put them together and make them grammatically correct. – Hold on, what is unbelievable about that, is it that we can do it, or that we can know that we’re doing it, I didn’t know what you meant. – I think that we can know that we’re doing it and that we can also again form them with proper semantics, it sounds right. – Like invent a totally new linguistic thing that works. – Right, like that’s the hard wiring of language, that that exists no matter what nouns or verbs you use, this is how language is structured. – Well I think what’s amazing about it is… – Noam Chomsky in 30 seconds. – What’s amazing about is is that the nature of the universe and time itself and possibilities, the fact that we can sit here and one after another create completely original things, that’s what’s amazing about it to me, is in spite of all the things that do exist have existed and will exist, we can make novel things exist just right now. – Right. – And we are. – I’m about to cry, you just touched me very deeply. – Right, and you’ve never cried. – Right. – I’ve never cried in this room with the two of you. – That’s a first for me. – Could you cry, are you someone who could… – No I’m not a cry on cue actor, a lot of young actors, if they can do that it literally goes on your resume, so that if they need a soap opera kid. – Right next to tap dancing. – And roller skating, what’s interesting is… – Oh for kids. – For kids, it’s really kid actors, my father passed away two years ago and I had to actually do some acting work in that… – Funeral? – No, like after he died, I had to go back to work. – Okay you were acting in the same period, I understood. – Thank you, and what was interesting is that I did a part that required crying which normally I can’t do and it came like that, I mean like, the emotions were just so right there, and I realized that oh, this is what method actors do, they create this environment of emotion so you can bring it, it was very, it was uncomfortable though, because it feels real. – Method actors wish that family members died recently so they can channel it? – That’s exactly what I meant. – Method actors are cruel people, they are. – They can access those things, like I can cry, I do cry easily, but not intentionally, like, commercials, boy I can go, I can turn it on a commercial, oh yeah, my dad’s the same way, and it’s funny cause you know my dad and me, neither of us are known to be sensitive emotional people because in one sense we’re not, but… – You’re hardened. – In another sense it’s just like… – What kind of commercials, maybe that would give us more information. – Just like, one like a lost dog comes back. – Oh so something with emotional content, just checking. – Yeah but dogs make sense. – Yeah I’ll go to a funeral and not cry, I remember feeling guilty for not crying at my grandmother’s funeral, but I was like… – How old were you? – Mmm, 12? – Yeah, I mean, that’s a different kind of thing. – But he was consciously saving it for an acting job that he hadn’t even acquired. – Or for a commercial he had yet to see. (laughs) Someday, I’m gonna see a commercial where a lost dog comes back. – They need to cue, that’s what they need to do, I mean who are we kidding, it’s not like we have to know how to cry on command to act in Buddy System, I mean… – I did, both seasons. – They gave you the drops, man. – They did give me the drops. – You were trying really hard but then they just said bring the drops in. And they brought the drops in for me this season… Oh the glycerin? – Yeah I got the drops this season. – Fine, I’m gonna do it right now. – No! – Are you thinking about something specific? Are you just creating a cry face. – He’s doing pretty good though. – Created a cry face and soon the tears will come. (laughs) This is an audio centric place. We could just say, come on, just say that I was crying. – Yeah Link just cried like a baby. – He cried like Rhett watching a commercial of a lost dog. – The lost dog’s gotta come back. – Oh sorry, yeah, sure. – A dog just being lost and being alone… – That’s funny to you. – Yeah right, but when the dog comes back home, reunites, the commercial where the guy come back from, the soldier comes back home and the dog greets him. – That’s yeah, that kills me, and I have chills right now thinking about it. – I’m gonna start, I’m crying about it, I’m gonna cry, but again it’s audio, so I’m not gonna do it. – You have lost dog bumps, like goose bumps, for, nevermind. – Did you not speak for a while, recently? – I did, yeah I had to go on vocal rest. – You know what… – How did you know this? – Because I follow her on Instagram, man, we keep up with each other. – Oh. – I actually use the internet on a regular basis. – The internet uses me, that’s enough. – You being on vocal rest for a month fed into my hypochondriasm. – He’s been talking about it for weeks. – Do you think you need to go on vocal rest? – Yeah. – You’ll know if you hemorrhage on your vocal chords. – No I’ve actually had ’em inspected twice now, I have this lingering sore throat, I’m doing okay but the only reason I thought that I might need to go on vocal rest is because right when I was, literally the day that I Was worrying about it the most, I saw your first video where somebody else was speaking for you. – I can’t believe we’re talking about this again. – And I was like, oh no, so now you have to tell me what happened. – Somebody was speaking for you, okay start at the beginning. – Well so I have a youtube channel and we had literally… – What’s the handle? – It’s Mayim Bialik, just spelled exactly the way it sounds, that was a joke because no one knows how to spell or say my name. Anyway, so we had just really started getting some reg, consistency is important, just one of the things I’m pretty sure you guys told me when I was starting out, and we had just started consistently putting out videos, we’re clocking them out, and then I went on vocal rest and we’re thinking well shoot, what do we do now, so we… – What was the trauma? – Oh so I hemorrhaged on my vocal chords from overuse and misuse and polyps forming. – Overuse, and misuse. – Yeah, and polyps forming. – What do you mean, overuse, how did you overuse and misuse? – I was on a book tour, you know I burned the candle, I created a new end of the candle to burn it at, so I’m kind of constantly producing, working, writing, making videos and then I went on this book tour, it involved a lot of travel, and then I went to Kiev to film a Sodastream commercial and it was very very very long days with very few breaks, and I have a naturally raspy voice, and my dad had the same exact kind of voice, and he had the same exact diagnosis, he actually had surgery for this and I’m hoping to avoid that, so basically when you hemorrhage on your vocal chords, they stick a camera down your throat and the doctor looks very disappointed at you. He’s like, you hemorrhaged twice. – But what does that physically mean… – So there are blood vessels all over your cords, and they can hemorrhage… – Explode. – That’s a word I don’t like to use when I think about my vocal cords, but yeah, they explode. – Bloody cords, like literally they were dripping in blood. – Yeah, bloody nodules is what we were calling it, so we had to find creative ways to keep my Youtube channel going… – For how long was the bed rest? – I was on vocal rest for a month. – That’s an unusually long time. – And I don’t mean that I wasn’t just speaking publicly, I was not speaking, I mean, my friend Noey, who works with me, he could tell you I was angrily writing and very frustrated when I couldn’t communicate cause I’m really… – Cause you can’t whisper either. – You cannot whisper and I’m really a person of words, I love words, my parents were English teachers, and that’s my weapon, is words… – You and Noam Chomsky. – Anyway, it was really crazy, we did a charades video, we did videos where I would write and have someone else read what I wrote, try and be poetic about it… – You were sitting there silent as they read it? – We did two with sign language, with American Sign Language interpreters, it was actually interesting… – You innovated. – Well and also it’s actually very humbling and empowering, in a mystical, I found, spiritual way to have your voice taken from you, cause it’s really the universe saying to you really stop, listen more, and talk less. – Have you ever done a silent retreat before then? – So I haven’t but as a Jewish person of faith, we have a lot of meditative aspects to traditional Jewish practice, and Yom Kippur which is actually coming up in a little less than two weeks, that’s a day when we also don’t eat and we don’t do all these other things and it’s a day when you’re silent a lot, you’re praying, but I actually really tried to say okay universe, I get it, what can I learn and gather from this experience, because also a mentor of mine told me to ask the god of my understanding to teach me lessons with joy and not with pain anymore because this is a hard way to learn that lesson, but they say you keep getting the same lesson until you learn it, and so I feel like, okay I really have learned to slow down, and I’ve learned to listen more and speak less and I’ve learned to enjoy silence in a way that I really didn’t before. I missed singing, that was actually harder than speaking, I missed my music, and I would play piano and I would like, it wanted to come out but yeah, pretty much. – In that given month, how many slip ups did you have and did you have any moments where it was like, I gotta break it, I have to speak. – Because there’s no cast, if you break a limb or something, they restrict it with a cast so it heals, there’s no cast for the vocal cords. – No there’s willpower I mean that’s literally it. I was allowed to speak at the doctor’s office for my checkups with my EMT, I was allowed to speak there but it was almost like I didn’t recognize my own voice, I was so not used to using it, and I’m supposed to learn to speak in a higher register like this, but yeah, so apparently I’m resting on my vocal cords and I’ve been doing that for 41 years. – That’s one of the reasons that my wife speaks at a higher pitch, it’s because she was trained as a teenager vocally, and so the first thing I notice when we were dating, when she needed to yell, she would yell like this, and I was like why don’t you actually yell, and she was like, I trained myself to never yell. – And I’m not supposed to laugh vocally, this is how my EMT said I have to laugh, ready for this, well can you guys do something, well you guys are funny a lot, say something funny, like tell a joke. – Oh gosh. – How do you spell Mayim Bialik, Link. – Goodluck, haha. – Tss tss tss, that’s how I’m supposed to laugh. – Tss ss sss. – That was not satisfying to me, I knew it was a horrible joke but boy that made it feel worse. – I’m supposed to laugh with a hiss. – Did you spell good luck? – Yeah. – I don’t even understand that, but it was funny. But I’m supposed to hiss instead of laugh. – I didn’t understand that but it was funny, that’s the only way I am funny. – So yeah and sometimes with my kids, I would really, if I really needed to convey something, I would bang on the table, I can’t speak. – Yeah cause it’s not the kind of thing where you undo all the work just because you speak but it’s really… – No, do you want to know something really tragic, I threw my back completely out halfway through vocal rest… – Oh no. – And when it happened, I was alone, upstairs, I had just gotten out of the shower and I was drying my hair, this has happened to me twice in my life, and when I mean my back went out… – The two of you are a pair. – It brought me to my knees, the pain, and I could not speak or call out, so what I started doing, my friends were downstairs, I started going like this, (whistles) – Whistling? – Yeah. – Whistling and beating. – She’s taken to whistling. – Buck naked, hair wet, because that’s what I did, I was drying my hair with a towel, like someone come help me, I was on the floor. – That’s how you call a dog. – I was then, with no voice, I was literally on bed rest for about 10 days. – Oh my gosh. – I know! – What did you do to your back? – Yeah, because I also have back problems. – We should talk later. – Yeah we should. – I mean honestly I think it’s tension that’s being held in my back for about 41 years, yeah, anyway. – That’s what I discovered. – So what you don’t hold in your core, do you hold in your back? – I’m finding new parts of my body that can hold pain and tension, that I didn’t even know. – That’s what it’s about, you gotta release it, pilates. – I don’t think you’re a hypochondriac, pilates makes me burp. – Really. – Tss tss tss. – Tss tss tss. – Pilates makes me pass gas out the other end. – Cause you’re constantly contracting. – And I take two classes a week, once a week I’m by myself. – I think it’s pronounced pie-lates. – Yeah pie-lates, the once a week class where it’s just me and the instructor, and it’s in the morning, I’m always nervous I’m like is this gonna be a farty day or not, and then she’s folding me up and I’m like, well she’s not gonna walk away, she’s gonna be right here next to me for an hour, I’m so bottled up out of there, as soon as I walk out of the pilates place it’s like your nana. – Are you like a balloon. – Yeah, I propel myself back to the car. – I actually tried to do pilates, and here’s my rule, nothing against 65 year old women with manicures and lots of jewelry and makeup, if you can wear all those things for a workout, that’s not the workout I wanna do. – Ooh, wrecked. – Yeah, you gotta come to my class because it is intense. – It could just be the neighborhood, Studio City is a little heavy on the 65 year old women with manicures and lots of jewelry. – Yeah, this is intense, man. – But do you know what I mean, you know. – Let’s talk about your book. – Okay. – I’m interested… – Can I drink this, by the way? – Oh yeah absolutely you should be drinking it. – Drinking from that Ear Biscuit jar is like drinking god nectar from a hardened biscuit batter beverage container, available only at mythical dot store. – Oh I knew you were turning this into an ad. – You sell some great things, by the way. – What else? – Well some of your hoodies are awesome. I’m serious, this is not an advertisement, but I’ve noticed more ads on your Instagram account that I’ve been seeing, and I’m like, you have really cute things. – Well we don’t call them ads, we call them like, content adjacent posts. – I didn’t know we called it anything. – Content adjacent, well anyway, sorry. – I’m interested in the journey of you writing this book, I mean, here it is… – Cause it’s been out for a while. – I’m holding it. – You talked about it so much that your cords exploded. – That’s right it came out in the spring. – And I mean, it represents a lot of work, I know, and a lot of yourself, over how much time? – I mean I write in fits and spurts, it was written over less than a year. – Okay, that’s good. – Cause you already wrote two other books, right? – Yeah this was my third book… – And they’re all totally different. – Yeah, I wrote a book on our experience with parenting, parenting my boys, I wrote a book, a vegan cookbook of the recipes I most often cook for nonvegans. – What’s that called? – It’s called Mayim’s Vegan Table. Now it would’ve been called plant based, but back then we didn’t know to use that word. – Oh. – And then this one is Girling Up, yeah. – The science of being a girl. – Pretty much. – Now the interesting thing is that, you have a teenage daughter who’s actually here right over there. – Yeah, she’s lurking, she’s looming. – But we all have kids who are different stages, we got kids who are about to go through puberty, kids who are going through puberty and kids who’ve been through puberty, and can you believe that we are responsible for them, let’s just stop for a second, we are responsible for these people. – Yeah. – Like that’s scary to begin with. – I think technically I am but I think practically they know not to expect that out of me anymore. – Yeah but like they’re made of us, sometimes I get freaked out, I’ll look at them and they’ll do something that reminds me of me or of their dad and that’s a human being that’s made of two people. – Right, I was thinking that the other day too, I was like wow, you got this shared experience that’s a person. – Yeah, that’s beautiful, that’s really beautiful. – The experience part, what are you talking about, there was an experience. – I didn’t intend for it, for me to be referring to that, creating a child, but it did sound that way. – What I understood was, you said, we had a shared experience that created a person, that’s reproduction Link. – That’s not what… tss tss. – It is, yeah, do you write about that in here? – Oh yeah she does. – Oh yeah, that’s in there. – It gets, what is the word that you would use? – Technical? – Very clear, very clearly stated. – Well and I really tried to write, I mean I’m trained as a neuroscientist, so I’m a science communicator, I’ve always taught science and that’s what I did for many years after getting my Ph.D, so I really wanted to present it in a age appropriate way, but also not a talking down to kids way, because I think a lot of us were spoken to that way, or not spoken to at all, and I really wanted to present it, in like, here’s the thing, and let’s not be afraid of these words, you don’t have to love them, you don’t have to shout them from the rooftops, but these are the parts of your body, this is what happens, and I’m pretty conservative, I don’t do a lot of things that I think there’s pressure to do in a lot of teen books because I really wanted it to appeal not only to younger kids but to kids who are late bloomers like I was. – So what do you mean, pressure to do in a teen book, like, we talking about preachy stuff? – Well preachy stuff or moralistic stuff, or even getting into some of the more complicated aspects that certain teenagers encounter when they’re dating and you know, I didn’t feel like it needed to be like a… – Normalized… – Yeah I didn’t want to normalize, I mean, I didn’t want to pass judgment on behaviors but I also didn’t wanna have to feel like we need to talk about the full gamut of things which in my opinion are best left to be discussed privately or with your intimate partner. – Got it, I understand. – Does that make sense? – Yeah, and I’ll explain it to Link later. – I was gonna say. – Okay. – (laughs) – You’re being respectful because my daughter’s here too, maybe we don’t want to talk about that stuff. – Well. – I did ask Lily to come on here. – Yeah cause the good news is because she wrote this book, you don’t have to talk to Lily. – Right. – I don’t have a daughter, I’ve had some awkward talks with my boys already, still figuring that out. – Oh yeah, happens too, not with your boys. (laughs) – But I don’t have to worry about this, I don’t have to have this conversation that you have but you probably should also talk to her in addition to just giving her a book. – Well this might, honestly I think that for a lot of dads and also moms, it’s also a good framework and guideline for a set of conversations because I do leave a lot open ended, these are some things that you can talk about with a trusted adult if you want to, but even basic things about anatomy, guys especially of our generation weren’t really taught a lot and when you have a daughter, especially if you’re an engaged dad, the way dads now are encouraged to be and are, you want to know more about your daughter and how she can kind of function, my dad literally said well your mother said she was gonna talk to you about the birds and bees, she never did, no dad, she never did, my dad and I had this conversation when I was in my 30s, I was like, why did no one ever talk to me, he was like your mother was supposed to. – She said she was gonna take care of it. – Right. – What’s the sweet spot, the target audience on this, I’ll read the… – It’s 10 to 18, I mean, my 11 year old read it, my boy, and he said the language was fine, he didn’t like seeing certain diagrams but that’s normal. – Okay, chapter one, how our bodies work, two, how we grow, three, how we learn, four, how we love, five, how we cope, and six, how we matter, now, I wanted to bring Lily on because she read your book, and I’m super proud of my daughter. – I hope she liked it or this is gonna be a very awkward next portion of time. – Lily, come on to the round table of dim lighting here… – Welcome Lily. – Hi, let me put these on, now I can hear you better. – Yeah and you can hear yourself, and bring the mic, cozy up to that mic. – The first Rhett or Link progeny to be on Ear Biscuit. – Is that right, aww, that’s special. – I probably talked about Lily more than any other child, especially going through the back surgery, we talked about it more on ear biscuits than anywhere else and super proud of, look at her, she’s done amazing. – She’s phenomenal. – She’s sitting up straight, she’s got the best posture out of any of us. – She sure does, she makes me feel like I just need to do this. – Now Lily, I made you read this book in preparation for coming on here, right. – Well, no, my mom, she told me, oh Mayim’s writing a book, I was like oh I’m really excited to read it and I read it in like the first three weeks, maybe two weeks after it came out I got it and I read it in like… – I got a sneak copy, did I not give it to you? – I think you did. – No that’s the one you gave to her. – Oh yeah, I didn’t make you buy your own. – No. – Use your allowance. – Like I made my kids. – Yeah you gotta get those numbers up. – Yeah but I read it in like three weeks, I was kinda off and on because I was deciding between three books, if I was gonna read them all at the same time or if I was gonna read them in separate, I don’t know, sections of the month, but I really did enjoy it, I loved it, no awkward conversations. – Well I’m sure we can find some. – Yeah we’ll make it awkward, don’t worry. You know I’m gonna make it awkward, right? I don’t know how but I’m sure I will. – Yeah. – How does your body work, Lily? – Well… – You just made it awkward, that’s all it took. – Go ahead, she can take it, she’s used to it. – But one, for the overall theme, I really loved how you use your knowledge of the brain and of being a girl yourself, but also using personal experiences in more nonscientific situations to explain different things and make it feel more real, not just oh this is a fact book, this is telling you what’s gonna happen, what you’re made of, and what that’s gonna do. – It’s not a science book. – It’s not strictly a science book. – But there’s some science in there. – Which I really enjoy because I love science. – Yeah I heard you like biology a lot. – Yes I do love biology a lot. – Is there some neurology going on in this thing? – In the book? – Yeah. – Yeah, I mean I talk about some of the chemicals that are activated particularly in the love chapter I talk about the neurochemistry in that, I talk about fear and anxiety and depression, I talk about some of the chemicals for that, I mean the brain controls everything you do and perceive so kind of everything is neuroscience is kind of, well, I’m a little partial, but yeah, there’s specific brain conversations in it. – But you’re saying there’s also like some juicy Mayim stories in there. – Well yeah, I talk about my experience liking boys and things like that and how poorly that went. – Oh. – Is this the kind of book that you’d need to take a satchel full of them to school and just start handing them out to other girls, do you think that’d be, how would that go over? – I mean, I definitely talked to some of my friends about hey I read this book and it’s really great and you should totally read it. – Make ’em buy their own copy. – Yeah, gotta pay the rent Lily. – I don’t trust people borrowing my books, it’s gone badly. – You gotta write your name in them. – What do they do with your book? – Or they make those, in the old days, it was a little imprint that you’d put on it. Does no one know what I’m talking about? – Like a stamp? – Like a wax seal? – No but it’s a, it makes an imprint, it lifts the paper up in some places like your initials. – Oh I know what that’s called. – I got one from my Bat Mitzvah, it’s like a thing. – And you mark every page of every book. – Embosser, it’s an embosser. Not every page. – Every page of every book you’ve ever read, you’ve embossed, this is how we know it’s your book. – Not really. – But you wrote it because you thought that, you filled the white space, so to speak. – I didn’t have, right this book didn’t exist when I was a kid, there were books about science and about how your body works, but they weren’t presented like this, and it’s a comic book artist’s style, illustrations and showing, I also wanted to show different shapes and sizes and body types and talk about that, so yeah, it definitely didn’t exist when I was a kid and I needed that kind of information, and I think a lot of what I talk about is the variety of experience that people but especially girls have, that I didn’t know when it’s normal to start your menstrual cycle, I didn’t know what’s normal, I didn’t know what’s abnormal, I didn’t know that it’s normal to be abnormal, that your body takes some time to settle into what it’s gonna be like, and I was a head shorter than every kid until about seventh or eighth or ninth grade, and now I’m an average height for a woman, and my whole life I thought oh my gosh, no one’s gonna like me, I don’t have breasts, I’m really short, my nose is too big, that was my experience and what I wanted to present was. – I’m on Tv, I’m very famous. – That actually didn’t help, and I talk about that also, most of the young women reading this book were not alive when Blossom was on and probably haven’t seen it. – She was on a show called Blossom. – Yeah I know. – Have you seen that, have you seen Blossom? – I haven’t seen it but mom has. – Where can you binge watch Blossom now, is it on Netflix? – No, no, no and it’s only the first two seasons were released by Shout Factory, they didn’t release seasons three, four, and five. – They’re in like a vault? – They’re very very secret. – That’s so weird. – So you can get the first two seasons on like… – I think people have posted them on, I don’t know, I mean doesn’t feel that illegal but it is, but anyway I do talk about that about how sometimes getting too much attention can also feel yucky, there are different kinds of people there are introverts, there are extroverts. – That’s a question I have, is, I can’t imagine us having, the fact that by the time this all started clicking into place for us as a career, we were already 30 years old with kids and had had real jobs, but there’s just so many kids now who, especially on Youtube, something catches and all of a sudden you’ve got 17 year old kid who is famous, I mean I can’t imagine what would’ve happened to me, how did you turn out normal? – Well I don’t know that I turned out normal. – How did you turn out healthy? – I’m an odd bird as they go. I don’t like… – Cause how old were you? – When I was on Blossom I was 14 to 19, and I was in a movie called Beaches when I was 12. – Right, that was the… – And played the young Bette Middler, so I started acting a bit before Beaches. I know I grew up with many people in the industry, some of whom have passed away from excesses, and so I don’t like to say well here’s how they should’ve lived so that wouldn’t have happened to them because mental illness and drug abuse and alcohol abuse, those things happen whether you’re on TV or not, to many people, so I know that what worked for me, and I mean, I come from an immigrant background, my grandparents were immigrants, so I was raised with a very strong work ethic, very disciplined and conservative household, I had chores, and I had a whole structured life and my parents were very strict, and I think for my personality, that created boundaries that felt good for me, I was a very anxious child, I was not very social, also the world was very different then, there was no internet, there was no publicity telling girls that they should wear extensions and have their lips done when they’re 16, I looked like a kid when I was a kid, and a lot of the public females that we see now don’t have that right to be innocent public people, so I think for me that was really instilled by my parents, but again, I knew kids in high school who weren’t on TV who were also getting into trouble and there are a lot of reasons for that. – Right. – Sorry I just made it sad. – Well you know, you talk about how you were an anxious child. – I’m an anxious adult, too, I didn’t mean to say it like… – You grew out of it? – Well that resonates with me, raising my kids, I’m reminded now, when they’re going into school, and there’s a big milestone of okay, going from home school and charter school, they’re moving into public school, and for the first time this year, and encounter a lot of new things and anxiety that comes along with that and I’m reminded of Lando going into second grade, it’s kind of like when I went to kindergarten and even preschool, I remember being so anxious, you know I think it wasn’t something that I was aware of that I was actively taught how to understand what was going on in my brain and in my body, just to use that as a case study, anxiety for me was something that, it was college when I really started to identify, well the way I interact with school is totally based on anxiety, I go from assignment to assignment, trying to get enough of it done ahead of time so that I can not be wigging out that it’s not done, like I was an anti procrastinator because I was an anxious wreck, but I can trace it back through childhood, but it was something that I never actively talked about. – Well I think people didn’t, you know, culture is different now and also I wanted this book to be culturally relevant. We didn’t know what even gender fluidity was, much less, but even if it’s not your thing to be a gender fluid person, this is the vernacular that our kids are growing up with, so I at least wanted to introduce terms so that we know what we’re talking about, and then people can have whatever opinions they want. But I think that’s part of it, no one wanted to hear that I was anxious, they wanted, finish what’s on your plate, go do your homework, and I’ll tuck you in, and don’t talk to Dad when he gets home from work cause he’s in a bad mood, those were the rules, go outside and play, come back. – Well that may still be a rule sometimes. You know when not to talk to Dad. – It’s not a rule, she just knows, it’s an understanding. – No but no one cared what we wanted for dinner, with my kids it’s like what would you like? And I don’t want that, it’s like, no one cared. – I was talking to Jessie about this the other day, I was like, we have so many interactions with our children. (laughs) I only got two, and I was like why do we have so many interactions about everything and I was just thinking back to the way I interacted with my parents and it was like, you’re outside, and then your mom yells to come back, and then you eat, and if you don’t eat, you get in trouble, and then you go watch something and then it’s bedtime, just getting Shepherd to go to bed, for me it was Dukes of Hazard going off and I specifically remember the NBC sound, and that was like da ding. – You immediately fell asleep, you were like Pavlov’s dog. – Yeah and so I was like oh I gotta go to sleep, and it’s like boy I wish I had a bell that would make my kids go to sleep and it’s like no we have to have an argument and we have to… – Or even a conversation, right. – Yeah, yeah, conversation, yeah. – Let’s talk about it. – But ultimately the thing I keep reminding myself of is like, I think that this is better, I think that it’s a better way. – It is, it is more exhausting. – It’s more taxing for the parent. – But you’re cultivating self-awareness, I mean if it’s, Lily I’m curious for you, is there something that it impacted how you thought about yourself, like the level that you think about yourself and how your brain works or okay, for me it was anxiety, that I didn’t think about, is there something like that from the book for you that got you thinking? – Yeah, I mean, it’s really just I guess the sciency stuff, so like I’ll read something or even in biology class right now I’ll be like, oh we’re learning about DNA or oh this is what happens in your brain when you do this, and then it’s like oh my gosh, that actually happens in my head, there’s a thing in my head that does that stuff, and then it’s like oh, right here in my arm there’s DNA, there’s a cell that has DNA in the nucleus and it’s like, that’s just sometimes woah. – Woah, and sometimes there’s impulses in your brain and you know you can separate yourself from that and you don’t have to act on it. – You are not your brain, you’re saying? – Yeah, your brain is just an organ, it has all these impulses. – You are not your thoughts. – Wait hold on, you mean electrical impulses or urges? – Yeah I’m talking more urges. – Yeah let’s talk about that. – Like dating urges, like just to date as an urge is not healthy. – I don’t want to put Lily on the spot, but I actually speak about the part of the brain that is not fully developed in teenagers which is responsible for controlling urges, and it’s the reason that we don’t like young people, I mean one of the reasons that we don’t like young people to drink alcohol, to do drugs, even to be responsible for driving or being responsible for other important things is because the frontal lobe of your brain is not fully developed and that literally is what controls impulses and that notion of like, if your parents tell you don’t do this, and you remember being a teenager, it’s like, why not, that’s literally, you’re not done developing. – Do you think a neuroscientist told the rental car companies that the magic age was 26. – 25, I think they did. – Right because I think it’s so weird that once you get past 25 that’s when you can rent a car technically and the rates go down and that’s when your frontal cortex is completely developed. – My kids asked me the other day, we were talking, they were learning about banking, we were learning about the fact that they have accounts, and well when can I have that account Mama? And I said well when you’re 25, and they said why not 18, I said because your father and I sat with a lawyer and we decided that we didn’t want you having money at your disposal at 18 because the things that you think of at 18 are not neccessarily the things that you might wanna do with money. – Yeah and I remind myself of that a lot of times when I’m reasoning, I’m gonna use the term reasoning with my kids, and like Locke, who’s a teenager now, and then I find myself talking to him about something and then I have to remember I’m like, I want to just take the logical thought that I feel like I’m having and just put it in his brain. – Yeah but they also have to experience things for themselves, which is important but… – But not dating. – No, and it’s funny because someone was saying oh you gotta learn it for yourself, I said, no I was a very obedient child and teenager and I didn’t do the things they said not to do and it turned out okay, I figured it out eventually. – Right. – My best friend, she was like, she told me before I read your book, she was like, okay, so, this, the frontal lobe isn’t fully developed until 25 for males and for females is it sooner that it’s developed? – Probably. – I wouldn’t be surprised. – And then it’s more developed in comparison to men. – There’s not like a leveling out. – So thinking of the teenage years for girls and guys but there’s just this moment of realization when that makes a lot of sense. – But also you don’t wake up at your age and say well here’s another day with me not having all my faculties, you feel like you’ve got it together, because you’re going through life and all the things that my kids and that our kids and that young people experience, it’s real, there may not be all the information and experience but it’s real and I remember the pain of not being allowed to watch this movie or not being able to watch this TV show because my parents were really strict about that or not being able to go out at night and it felt really unfair, I was the only teenager who wasn’t allowed to drive when the first girl in our class got her driver’s license, and every other kid got to go out driving with her and they had a great time and I had to stay home cause my parents didn’t think that that was safe, and that just feels crummy, even though logically I get it, it feels crummy to be that kid. – Oh yeah, I hear that quite a bit. – Well Lily we can let you off the hook here in a sec, do you have any pressing questions for Mayim based on the book? I’m really putting you on the spot, you’re doing great by the way. – Yeah you are doing great. – She almost seems prepped, but I know she’s not because that would’ve required some forethought. – From me? – From you. (laughs) – Come on. This is your opportunity to take up from me and say how I’m such a great dad, it’s no longer about Mayim or her book. – That’s fine, I’m happy to witness this. – Your parting words can have something to do with how great I am because you know you’re my favorite. I mean I tell you that all the time when none of the other kids are around. – Sure, not that like our dog is your favorite child or whatever, none of that. – Ooh, have I said that out loud? – Uh huh. (laughs) – Whoops. But I still love you a lot, I do love you a whole lot. – Dad I love you too. – Oh my gosh. I feel it coming. – Let’s act. – Yeah, if I ever have to cry on cue, I’m gonna think of that moment. – Lily, thank you, so you can sit back over, you don’t have to be in the pressure seat anymore, the hot seat I think is what it’s called. – That’s like a 17th century torture device. – Well thanks for having me on, that was fun. – Thanks for being on, thanks for reading my book and liking it. – Maybe one day you’ll write a book, she’ll write a book like this about being a vegan. I won’t let her be a vegan. – Draw the line there. – You know we actually just right before we came in here, this happened to me eight hours ago, I saw our printed book for the first time. – I can’t wait. – You just saw ours even in the edit all day, an hour ago. – Yeah I saw it, I was talking to Rhett and I looked down at the desk and I saw we’ve had preliminary paperback copies of the book. – Galley copies. – Galley copies, and I thought that was what it was, and then it’s shiny, just a little bit different, so I saw it, I’ve been there. – I can’t wait, personally. – I wasn’t gonna bring that up because this was about her book not our book. – But I’m just saying, I’m looking at her book, and thinking the fact that it’s such a good feeling, right, it’s such a good feeling. – Well my aunt just sent me a picture from a bookstore in San Jose and my book was on the shelf and she couldn’t believe it and she took a picture. – Well yeah cause I don’t know what it is, as somebody who’s, you’ve been in a lot of things, you’ve created a lot of things, and all the videos we’ve created, they’re still out there but I don’t know… – It’s not as permanent. – Yeah, you got this book and I was actually thinking about it in the context of the kids, I mean we talked about this as we were writing it, cause a lot of it is very memoir based, and there’s so much of this stuff that I’ve told bits and pieces of these stories to the boys, but it’s like, just read this book. – Yeah absolutely there was a point when we were writing it, when I was like, this is gonna be, even if only our kids read this, that will be so glad. – And me. – I don’t know just looking at the physical book, this is your third one, but… – It feels very Forest Gump to me, they put my face on this book that’s not really mine, I feel like I’ve been inserted into it. – I don’t remember Forest Gump being like a ghost writer. – No, not like that, nevermind. – Just the way he had the moments. – Well and also, yeah I was a kid once. – Yeah, the back, of young Mayim. – And you know how it is, when celebrities write books, and actually you said this in an interview… – Yeah I don’t like when celebrities write books. – That like and for good reason because so many people and I think this is definitely true, not any less true of youtubers, it’s just like, oh you got an audience, fired a book out, so they’ll buy it, and we, that trend started happening on youtube, but… – Yeah they call it amateur autobiography. – Not condescending at all. – I didn’t call it that, that’s the thing that it’s called, meaning it’s not someone that’s an author, it’s someone who hasn’t written before and they’re writing their story for the fanbase that will find it something that they want to read. – Well and then you’re thinking okay well, did they actually write it, not everybody did, so there’s probably some ghost writer here, and some of them you pick up and you’re like, this is not a book, this is pictures. – Well sometimes it’s like stories, you know. – Well I’m bragging about your book and our book together, that’s what this is turning into. – Yeah we’re trying to make some sort of association here, coats, there’s some coattail action happening. – Well because I can feel the, with all the stuff that you’ve done but especially this one, this seems like the one that is the most, this is the thing that I had to get out by myself. – Yeah and also I think what’s special and I’m assuming you may have had a similar experience, many people have come to me in the past year since I’ve been on Big Bang Theory and say, can we slap your face on a book and call it Science for Girls and sell a lot of copies? And I kept saying no because that’s not true to, forget about my brand, what’s science? And I literally sent an e-mail to one of these publishers saying I’m sorry, which science do you mean, do you mean biology, do you mean physics, do you mean chemistry, what do you mean? There’s no science… – Just science. – Right, it’s like, that’s not good to slap my face on, and this was really, when Jo Sansopolo from Penguin reached out to me, she had read an article that I wrote for Groknation, for my website, about the episode where Amy and Sheldon are intimate for the first time and I wrote about it as a late bloomer playing a late bloomer on television, and she literally reached out for that reason and that really spoke to me, cause she said I like the way you spoke about being a late bloomer and some of the benefits of that, and I’m wondering if you’d like to share that with a broader audience, and I said well, since you seem to be a real person of substance, can I pitch you this and I pitched this book, I said what if that’s just part of the experience of sharing about what it’s like to be female, some of us are late bloomers, some of us aren’t, here are the things you should know about your body that no one ever told me, here’s the way to put yourself out into the world as a female, so it’s the book that I feel most closely connected to cause I really had to fight for it you know? It wasn’t just like let’s do a book and as Lily indicated, there’s science in that, I’m trained as a scientist, that’s what I am, it’s not cutesy stories about like first I liked this boy, it’s like I liked this boy that no one else liked cause he was a goth and I cried about him for six years, right his name was Misha, Misha was mentioned in the book. – He was a goth. – Yeah he was dark and he liked Sex Pistols. – Is he still a goth, have you looked him up? – No, I’ve spoken to him since, we connected in college and he said that the years that I had a crush on him which was literally from seventh grade through twelfth grade, he said those were his golden years. – He’s like baby it’s been all downhill from there. I never dress in black anymore. – He’s not goth anymore? – I don’t think so. – It’s really tough to maintain that. – Pretty ironic for a goth to be your golden years. More like blackened years. – No he was more punk rock, I’d say, but there’s all those sort of circles. – Yeah especially in rural North Carolina. – Was there eyeliner involved? – No, no eyeliner. – The alternative kids. – Yeah. – That’s where they hung out, punk, goth, whatever. – Yeah they smushed us all together, there was a category of people called heshers that very few people seem to know that term, I don’t know if it’s a West Coast term, heshers were the guys who wore… – MC Hesher? – No, the guys who wore like the Metallica shirts and the skinny black, like they kinda looked like the Ramones guys, we called them heshers. – We probably just didn’t have any. – You weren’t a hesher, you just crushed on one. – No I wore Doc Martens and fishnets almost every day, and I was the girl who wore the peasant skirts and the Lennon glasses, you know. – Okay. – Ironic. I read Dostoevsky in my spare time. – Oh wow, I didn’t read until I was 30. – And now you wrote a book! Look at you now. – No I read some. – The book? – Yeah, but substance, the word that you used when you were talking about the editor that approached you, a person of substance because you had ideas of substance and wanted to write a book of substance and it’s just not, I don’t want to be one of those people who’s like, it’s becoming rarer, it’s not, but… – It is though and people say and also, you know the Youtube world, I think it’s really impossible to try and do what I’ve done already which is, I’m not that, I don’t think I’m that interesting, I just have a lot of strong opinions about things, but people seem to want to hear them and we’re trying to lighten me up a little bit, I’ve been told I’m too old since I’m five years old, I’ve been told I’m too cerebral and too, and I can be fun, you’ve seen me be fun, I wore things on my head. – With the guacamole on your head. – What’s happening. – Don’t be ginger. – Where is it? – Oh stop it! – Keep going. – Am I allowed to look at my hand? – No, gotta keep the hand up there now. – But yeah, I like things of substance because for me those have been the things that have caused the most personal change, and the most change that I see that I can affect in the world, that’s literally a thing of mine, for reals yo. – Yeah, dent the universe, like Logan Paul says. – Yeah, let’s talk about substance. – Hey, if you’re choosing between Logan and Paul, I mean Logan and Jake. – If you’re choosing between the first and last name of a same person, you’re kinda just talking about a person. – I mean if you’re choosing between Logan and Jake I think the substance is on Logan’s side, that’s all I gotta say in the Logan Jake debate. – Wow. – There you go. – What do you think about that. – I’m wearing a Wolverine shirt so Logan’s great. (laughs) – Like that, see what I did there? – So your oldest son read the book. – Correct, he’s my first editor as I said. – First editor? – Yeah. – And then he’s like, write one for me too, did he? – I’m working on it. – Oh wow, whispered, she’s not even supposed to whisper because of the nodes but she did. – So boying up with you on the cover? Put Forest Gump on the cover, Boying Up. – I wonder how much you would… – You’re not even gonna respond to that. – I’m not allowed to yet. – How much would you have to pay Tom Hanks to just be on the cover of a book and that’s all you have to do, you don’t have to say it’s by you, I want you to be on the cover of my book. – I don’t know the answer to that question. – We should have thought of that, we should have put Tom Hanks in that cereal bowl. – We could list that as a sentence that’s never been uttered, how much would it take to put Tom Hanks on the cover of a book? How much money would you have to pay. – Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s original. – Oh people probably have asked that actually. – A lot of frustrated editors, all the ones that called you, then called him and said that. – He probably gets phone calls about that kind of thing all the time. – Well even though it’s been out a few months, I’m glad we were able to talk about it. – I really appreciate it, I appreciate your support. – Yeah, I mean if you don’t have it, get it, it’s still out there. – It’s a fun read, it’s a light read. It’s not like a textbook, no. – Did you do an audible, an audiobook? – I did, just before my voice went out. – Oh you did? – I did, it was the first book I’ve ever narrated of the three that I’ve done, I’ve never spoken the other ones, and it was really fun, a little hard to explain some of the diagrams. – Yeah, right, so we recorded our book a few weeks ago, and it was like… – Yeah you have to kinda work around some stuff. – But the thing that we talked about is it’s a totally unique experience because it’s like well… – For the listener you mean. – Yeah we actually end up having to explain things in a way that you wouldn’t get if you just got the book so you kinda got to get both. – And you don’t also, I found the experience kind of interesting, you don’t think that much about how you speak but when you read things for a long period of time, you start having the same intonation every sentence and every sentence sounds like this so she would stop me and say you’re getting a little sing songy, and she got a little stern about it, I was like oh dear I got sing songy again. – Well we sat here, … – It’s more of a dialogue. – We would bat it back and forth, so we’d have some built in recovery time, but the director guy, he would sit right here, and then we would usually correct each other before he would, he was probably like why am I even here. – Why am I even here, they keep directing each other. – They keep jumping down each others’ throats, I gotta back away slowly, it’s getting heated and awkward in here and they’re doing my job. – That’ll be your next book, Heated and Awkward. – Write that down, get Tom Hanks on the cover. – I get to be Heated. – Okay, sure you can be first this time. – Well then you’d be, I don’t want to be awkward… – I’ll be awkward. – I’ve been that long enough. – Heated and Awkward starring Tom Hanks. – That’s gonna come on after Big Bang Theory, yo. – New on CBS this fall. – Heated and Awkward, it’ll be on for a few episodes, starring two guys, John Heated and Mike Awkward. We could sell it! – It’s sold. – Will you be on it? – Why is it John Heated and Mike Awkward? – Why is this such a stupidly good idea? – Hey listen, if we sell this show, you’re in it. – I’ll say I knew you when. – Okay, I wanted to make like a development deal right here, if we sell John Heated and Mike Awkward. – You’ve had some really famous people on, by the way. You have. – Yeah. – They get in a love quadrant with Hot and Heavy. – A love quadrant? – Heated and Awkward get in a love quadrant with Hot and Heavy. – What’s a love quadrant? – I think it’s like polyamory. – Oh for Pete’s, a love trapezoid. Love Rhombus? – You can’t put that on network television. – No I’m just saying, it’s like a love triangle, but it’s with four people. – I just did two videos of this issue with polyamory. – Really? – Cause I know nothing about it and I got it all wrong in my first video so I made an apology video. (laughs) – Well okay, did you take, so you didn’t take the first one down. – No, I spoke to four people, actually clinicians in the polyam community who told me what I literally, not just like oh you’re wrong, you should think it’s great, like literally I used the wrong words and so I made a new video and it’s kinda crazy but I got some really great love people saying… – It’s good that you left the other one up, is what I’m saying, so you can keep monetizing it. – Yeah and people were like thank you for admitting you were wrong, and even if it’s still not your jam, we appreciate you clarifying the terminology. – Well we’re gonna need to consult that for Heated and Awkward. – I might need to send you those links. Cause maybe you didn’t mean poly am, maybe you meant open relationship, nevermind. – Well I was making a joke about, a love triangle has nothing to do with any of this, guys. – But you said love rect… – I said a love quadrant because there’s four people, but it’s the same, it’s a love triangle… – Heated and Awkward and Hot and Heavy. – All I’m saying is that each person liked the next person liked the next person, there’s no overlap. – Oh, train of like. – Oh it’s a train. – It’s a train, man. – Is it a dance show? – It’s a soul train. – It’s a dancing show. – It’s a reality dance competition. – We’re bringing soul train back and calling it Heated and Awkward. – Mayim thanks for coming in, we’ll have you sign the table. – Oh, I would love to. – This was fun. – This was super fun, thank you. – We’ll have to do this again. – I would love to, and we need to talk about our medical issues apparently. – Yeah we do. – I’m gonna check out for that. – Hear this Ear Biscuit in it’s entirety so you don’t miss a thing, follow the links in the description to Art 19, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else podcasts are available. – To watch more Ear Biscuits click the video on the left. – To watch more from this is mythical, click the video on the right. – And don’t forget to subscribe by clicking the circular icon. – Thanks for being your mythical best.