(upbeat electronic music) – Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I’m Rhett. – And I’m Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we’re asking the question, how was London? – How was it? – And then we’re answering that question ’cause as of the recording of this, we are still pretty fresh off of our trip to London, England, United Kingdom, Europe world. – Not for long. (chuckles) Yeah I still have jet lag. – I still am, well– – Are you waking up? I’m waking up like– – It is eight hours ahead– – Three o’clock. – Of us. – I’m waking up like 3 a.m. and I’m like ready to go and then I’m like don’t, you gotta go back to sleep. – Well the thing that I’m noticing is at about seven o’clock at night– – It hits you. – I get hit really hard with this irritability that, like I was out to dinner with the family and they were all talking about interacting with one another, which I mean, if that’s your thing. – Yeah, your family’s talking. – It was not my thing at the time, I mean, I stopped at one point, I was like guys, I just wanna tell you, we’re like halfway through the meal– – I am so irritable right now. – I just feel like I could explode with irritability and I’m just like very testy. – You know, this is kinda crazy. ‘Cause you know how it’s manifested itself with me? Extreme restless legs. – Really? – Extreme restless legs. Now I have restless legs (grunts) syndrome. (Link grunts) I think I’ve talked about this before, but anyway, it’s the irresistible urge to move and what was happening is it was in my right leg, it started getting in my right hand. – Well hold on, this is only when you’re sleeping, right? – No, it happens when, it happens typically when you’re trying to go to sleep but what was happening which was so weird is that because of the jet lag, it was hitting me about 7:30 for me, so on Monday night I was in my therapy appointment, and I started having it real bad and my leg was bouncing up and down and I’ve never had it in my arm and so my arm was also like, I was moving around a lot. And my therapist was like, you’re very uncomfortable with what we’re talking about right now, aren’t you? And I was like, well, I mean yeah but it’s because I got restless legs, brah. – In my arm. You got restless leg in your arm. Why not call it restless arm? – I don’t know what that is and then the next night, I went back to my therapist with my wife, it’s a long story. – Well let’s go into it. (Link chuckles) – We just needed an emergency session. – Okay. – It was actually great. Incredible session, but during that, it happened again and I was, just thinking about it– – Show me exactly what you were doing. – Like you see my foot? You see my foot? My foot would be out like this and I’d be like– – Okay your foot’s out, so you’re just waggling your foot. But what about your arm? Okay you got a fist, you got one hand in a fist and you’re grabbing it with your other hand. – Just moving. – You just look very uncomfortable. – Yeah I look like I’m squirming my way out of something, and maybe I was– – Yeah like when you get sent to the principal’s office but you have to wait outside and everyone’s walking by going to lunch and they see you sitting there. – Yeah. – And you’re like, his leg’s twitching and he’s holding hands with himself. – Just to be clear ’cause a lot of people think, oh I tap my leg a lot, I must have, that’s not restless leg syndrome. So if you have a tendency to let out excess energy by bobbing your knee up and down like that, not restless legs, not the same thing. Restless legs is this, you only can explain it if you have it, it’s this irresistible urge to move to the point that you feel like you’re going to, it’s so uncomfortable not to move. So it’s not like the little thing where you’re just bobbing up and down and– – Well you know what– – Don’t wish it on your worst enemy. – I’m sorry you have that, Rhett. – Okay, go ahead though. – I don’t have it. Never experienced it. I mean I’m only imagining what it would be like just by hearing you describe it. – Right and I describe it in such a vivid way. You don’t even need to watch the video version of this podcast in order to get all the, of course, maybe you do because I did a lot, a lot of physical things a second ago. Pretty impressive. – (chuckles) Well you shook your foot and that wasn’t even in the shot. – (laughs) But you saw it. They can see your face looking at me. – Yeah, they can. Why are you yawning, man? See, it’s hitting you. – I’m tired, man. – Jet lag, dude. – I’m from London. I’m on London time. – Once I told them I was about to explode with irritability, then it actually helped and I didn’t, for the record. – Yeah, separated yourself from it. You are not your emotions. – But, they seemed to not have heard me. It wasn’t like they responded, it’s like, oh, thanks for sharing. They could have said that. – Yeah. – They just kept talking, but it made me feel good to acknowledge that I had feelings instead of letting those feelings control me. – Yeah. – That’s what I’m actually trying to do and it was nice to know that it was jet lag and that I’m not just a jerk that doesn’t wanna be around my family, because I do. – Yeah ’cause I thought something was wrong with me, it was so intense and it was just the, no, no, you would be asleep right now and you’re not. – Yeah because 7 p.m. feels like, let’s see, plus eight– – 3 a.m. – Is 15 a.m. which is 3 a.m. There’s no 15 a.m. 1500 hours would be 3 p.m. – Right. – There’s no 15 a.m. – You just, the next day– – You know, we should change that. – They should just keep counting. They should count from the beginning of time. – So we’re going (chuckles)– – That should be what time it is. – We’ve never been to London so this podcast is gonna be us sharing with you our first ever experience in London except for being at the airport, I mean we’ve been, we’ve connected through the London airport but we’ve never been in the land of London, like out and about. – Yeah. – So we’re gonna share those things with you. We were there for VidCon and also for a concert that we played which was at the same venue but was technically, well it was a part of VidCon but it was a separate event, separate ticket. – It’s a little complicated but doesn’t matter ’cause it’s done. – It’s over. And I was just looking at the pictures from the concert. I was like man, that’s really– – Cool pictures. – Really validates having done it when you have cool lookin’ pictures of it. – [Rhett] Well we got some pictures taken by, was it Anieck, is that how you, yeah. – Thank you, Anieck. – Anieck, Mythical Beast– – For doing that. – From Amsterdam. Came over and took some pictures of us. She took a lot of pictures and then she sent us what she deemed to be the cool ones and they are very cool. Posted one to my Instagram. – So lots of thoughts about London. We’ll get into all that but first, I just wanted to share a story with you, something that happened to me that I haven’t shared when I got back from London, so a few days ago, I injured myself. – Oh I’m surprised. (Link chuckles) – I just thought I would share it with you, loyal Ear Biscuit listener, and to you Rhett, loyal friend and irritable companion. – Yep. – So I get home and I happen to mention to Christy, I was like I’m gonna put my passport away. I’m gonna put it back in the safe. I keep my passport in our fireproof safe, which ultimately I just think if there was a fire, I guess we’d grab the safe but if we didn’t, maybe it would survive, but I don’t know. It’s like– – It’s fireproof, man. – It’s fireproof to a certain degree. – Why you gotta grab it? – That’s true, I wouldn’t grab it, it’s heavy. It’s a lot of things as I’ll get into, and she was like oh, get my passport too because I haven’t put mine back in there. I was like well we need to keep ’em in there. – Yeah yeah. – So I go get hers, and the safe is not in the place that it used to be. – Well don’t tell us where it’s at because I’ll break in and get it. – I have to tell you. – Okay. – ‘Cause what’s more important is me telling the story than keeping secret where my secret safe is. – I got a dummy safe. I got a safe that they’ll take and then think that they got the safe. – Where is that one? – I’m not gonna tell ya. – Where’s the real safe? – Ha ha, definitely not telling you that. – Oh you didn’t fall for it this time but you had already told me that it’s under your bed. (both chuckles) Isn’t it? – My safe can’t fit under my bed, bro. – You got a big safe? – Yeah. – Like how big is your dummy safe? I’ve seen your dummy safe, it’s like you walk in the front door and it’s right there. – You could carry it. But the real safe I can get into. – What? – I’ve never told you about it. – The dummy safe is in the front of your house just sittin’ there. A thief walks in, you’re like dummy safe here. Wocka wocka wock– – It says take me. – I’m dummy. I’m not a dummy safe. – It says free. – You have a walk-in safe? – I might. Let’s talk about you gettin’ hurt. – Ironically a walk-in safe is not safe. ‘Cause you can get locked in it. – Well I’m not plannin’ on locking myself in. – My safe is pretty small, it’s like the size of four Trapper Keepers stacked on top of each other. It’s got a lid on it. Anyway, it’s not in the place that it used to be and neither is Jade’s dog kennel. Jade is here with me today. Jade, say hello. Jade, say hello. I’m tellin’ a story about your kennel, your cage. I don’t like to call it a cage because it’s her home when we’re not at home and she likes it. It makes her feel secure to go in there, and more importantly she doesn’t pee or poop in it. – Oh so you still put her in her crate when you leave. – Oh yeah because she will pee and poop in the house. She’s part dachshund and then she’s the part that likes to sneak and pee. Anyway, when Britton moved into our house, we converted the office into his bedroom. – Right. – Glorified closet. Anyway, that’s where we kept her kennel and where I also kept the safe and I kept the printer. So then I’m like, I gotta find a new place to put our printer. I moved all of that stuff that’s in that bigger room that he now sleeps in into the closet that’s underneath the stairs that lead up to my bedroom. So picture like a Harry Potter kinda closet. You open the door to that closet, there’s a light switch in there. – Why didn’t you just put Britton in there? – I thought about it. I did think about it, I was like hey, if it’s good enough for Harry– – Yeah, give him something to write a song about. (both chuckle) – Have you been in this closet? You open the door, you hit a light switch– – I didn’t know it was there. Next time I’m going in though. – When you open the door, you’re looking down the staircase that it goes, if you look straight ahead once you open the door, it goes away from you to, it slopes down to a point, so you’re not looking at it sideways where it’s sloping sideways. You’re at the tallest point and then it’s sloping down to the floor. – When you open the door. – When you open the door. And a matter of fact, it kinda slopes down and then there’s like a cubby hole that I put, stop yawning while I’m telling a story. – It’s boring, man. (chuckles) – I know you’re jet lagged but it’s not good for my ego. – Your story’s boring. (chuckles) – So it slopes down and it– – You’re talking about the architecture of this under the stairs room. Is it important? – The architecture’s important to what happened. – Okay. – So you need to be able to visualize this. You walk in, it’s about six feet tall, it immediately slopes down to about two and a half feet tall where there’s a cubby hole that I put the printer in. – Oh that’s nice. – Then in front of the printer, I put the safe. – In front of the printer. – It’s just a small safe. Four Trapper Keepers, then to the right, there’s enough room for a book shelf that has all of our board games that we used to keep in Britton’s room. – Oh. Board games. – So you can walk in and get to the printer or the safe or the board games. – You don’t put the board games in the safe, huh? – No, not enough room, I don’t have a walk-in safe. I could make this whole closet a safe. – I got all my board games in my walk-in safe. (chuckling) – Chutes and Ladders is very flammable. – Yeah, it’s vintage edition. – It would be easy to get to the printer and to the safe except for the fact that then at the last minute, I realized I didn’t know where to put Jade’s crate so then I put it in right smack dab in the middle. And it fills basically the whole floor of the closet. So when I go in there to put the two passports that are in my hand into the safe– – You gotta move the crate. – But moving the crate is difficult ’cause it’s almost the width of the door. – You gotta move the crate to print? – Yeah. Well– – This is not sustainable. But– – What you can do is you can basically, I can stand in front of the crate and bend over, like hinge, then put my hand on the crate or somewhere and then kinda reach and grab what I’ve printed. That’s worked a few times. – Easy. – But the printer’s a foot higher than the safe. I didn’t take into account this was gonna be more difficult so I’m standing there, my shin’s against the front of Jade’s crate, then I hinge over and I realize, I can’t reach the safe so what I do is, I take my hand and I extend it out as far as I can and when the slope goes down, it then goes vertical for a two by four and then goes horizontal into the cubby hole where the printer is, so there’s a little two by four height where– – You rested your hand on. – I rested my hand on that and I’m pushing hard, holding up my body weight with my right hand and then, I’m reaching down with my left hand to open the safe. And I realize, well, I can’t open the safe with my left hand ’cause I’ve got– – My left hand doesn’t know the combination. (chuckles) Only my right hand does. – Well there’s no combination on my safe. It’s just for fire. It’s not for theft. All you gotta do is push, grab the handle, push down on the safe. – You don’t have a combination? – No, squeeze the handle, and then it will open. – My scans my eye before I walk in. – I don’t care. – That’s not true but you know. – So then I’m like, I gotta switch hands so then I gotta get my right hand down there because the safe handle’s on the right side and so, I put my left hand up there and I take my right hand down, so now I’m– – Always maintain important contact. – So now I am, my whole upper body weight is being held up with my left hand and then I reach down, again, I have the passports in my hand but then with my other three fingers, I’m gonna grab the handle, push down on the safe, pick it up all the way, open the lid and then I’m going to throw the things in and then I’m gonna close the lid and then I’m gonna unhinge myself and I’m gonna get out of there like a proud man. That’s not how it happened. (Rhett sputters) So I’m holding myself up with my left hand and I reach down to grab the, open the safe, and I open the safe and as the lid is coming up and I’m trying to pull the lid up, my left hand slides– – Yeah. – Off of the two by four that’s holding my entire body weight up– – Into the cubby. – Yeah, and it goes into air and then I just, I start falling, so the lid is up on the safe, my hand is in a free-fall, my body begins to be in a free-fall forward and the lid, my right hand starts to fall too and I try to catch myself with my right hand ’cause it’s, I let go of the safe and I turned my hand around to put my palm toward the ground and catch myself, but as I do that, the lid of the safe comes down on my fingertips– – I think I see the finger that got the brunt of it. – And then the lid snaps shut on my fingertips while my left hand comes down on top of the safe and pushes my entire body weight on top of the safe lid, thereby smooshing completely my middle finger. And I’m not just saying the tip, I’m saying just, it clamped down just below the base of the finger. – So basically the whole top part above that knuckle was safe from fire. – Yes, it was, that is the positive spin on this story. The negative spin was that I was in excruciating pain where I had– – Say any wordy dirds? – I had locked my middle finger– – It locked? – Of my right hand into the safe and was applying my full body weight on top of it and I was in like a yoga position that you just can’t magically hinge up. You just can’t magically, like my feet are way back here behind the kennel. – The fire safe position. – I was– – Dad’s doing fire safe. – I was like bent over a barrel basically. And I don’t know, at that point I’m like struggling to get my finger out of the safe and it won’t come out. I’m like (grunts). I wasn’t– – Were you home alone? – I was not saying English, I was not saying expletives, I was grunting like a caveman in pain, agony, and just total despair (chuckles) that I was gonna be there forever. – But how soon after that kinda thing happens, like in the middle of it, are you thinking, I’m gonna talk about this on Ear Biscuits? (chuckles) Because– – It hurt so bad. – That’s what happens to me now. Anything that happens that is like, I shouldn’t have got myself into this situation. – Well I’ll answer that because, yeah what happened was, it was an excruciating amount of pain and of course time slows down at that point but somehow, I was able to hop my left hand off of the safe onto the floor and then rip my right hand– – Ugh. – Out of the safe. – It was still closed though? – It didn’t fully latch. That would have been impossible. And then, I put both my hands on the dog crate and peeled myself back. – Well you could have had trouble there too, putting all your weight on the dog crate. – Yeah and then– – It’d collapse the whole thing. – And then I don’t know if I immediately laid down on the floor or did a dance around the room, but I looked at the footage and you could hear, ’cause I have that security camera in that room. But I was out of frame but I played it back and I could hear the noise I made. It was like (grunting dramatically). (pained grunting) – [Christy] What’s wrong? What’s wrong? What did you do? – [Link] My finger. I squeezed it into my finger. (laughing) (groans loudly) (tape fast forwards) (pained laughing) – [Christy] You’re doing something in there. What are you doing? – [Lando] Is it hurting? Are you hurting? – [Christy] He’s hurting and he’s trying to laugh at the pain away. (Rhett chuckles) – And then I was like (groans dramatically). – Did you save that? Did you save that clip? – I got the clip, yeah. If it works we’ll throw it in there. And I’m like, while I’m laying on the ground like (grunts), and like Christy comes in there, she’s like, what’s wrong? She told me later she thought that I’d fallen down the stairs. (Rhett laughs) It’s like the noises you make when you are– – Your reaction– – Falling down the stairs. – You must have fallen down the stairs, no, let me explain what I did, it’ll take 12 minutes. – I would have been (chuckles), yeah, I would have been falling except I was laughing and I was thinking about how ridiculous this was and that I was gonna share it with you on Ear Biscuits at that point. She got me some frozen peas and she was like what happened? And I was like, I smooshed my finger in the safe. I can’t tell you the details because I feel kinda faint right now. And I was thinking about what had happened and I started to feel faint and I sat there on my butt with frozen peas on my finger for like 10 minutes before I could feel like I could stand up. – You thought you might have broken it maybe. – Well I was convinced that like I had lost my fingertip or at least the nail. And I still may lose the nail. Oh man it hurt. It still hurts a little but but, oh man, I am so appreciative of nails. – You know what’s kinda interesting as well– – If it wasn’t for fingernails, yeah, I would have lost the fingertip. I think it’s a protect, it’s armor. – I’m not gonna tell the story ’cause it’s not much of a story but you know the finger that I hurt before we left for London? I was telling you about putting my hand into my guitar case and the thing going between my fingernail. – Oh yeah. – It was the same finger, the middle finger of the right hand. – The right hand. – It’s been swollen, see that? – You think this is a sign or something? – It’s been swollen ever since, it’s like I was worried that– – You talking about the cutilage, the cuticle on the right side of your– – Yeah this thing went in and it bled. It went down in there and then bled. – I did that one time and it got infected. – That’s what I thought was happening. – And it swelled up so big that I super heated a needle underneath a flame and I stuck it in to drain all the puss out. – I thought I was gonna get some sort of London bacteria. You know like some old world bacteria that was gonna take me out. I don’t know how bacteria works. Okay, we’re both fine though. – Well I’m not fine, my fingertip still hurts, brother. – Okay, we are gonna talk about London, but first, we are going to talk about Link’s shirt. He has– – Oh wow. – The brand new Apawcalypse collection shirt, well it’s a whole collection. There’s a whole story behind this, this collection. This is something new that we’re doing where we’re doing a collection of clothing– – It’s called storywear. – Storywear. – You don’t want someone to wear stuff that’s logos. You wanna wear something that tells a story. – So there’s a story, by the time you’re hearing this, I’m sure that the trailer for the story’s gonna be out. In fact, I just recorded the VO for it so hopefully it’s out and this is going to be something that, we’re trying it and seeing how this goes but we have– – It’s awesome. – An artist who kinda created all this incredible stuff that fits this theme about a post apocalyptic world in which dogs have kinda taken over and– – Apawcalypse. – Humans are the pets and it’s really cool stuff that just says Mythical on it somewhere. – I’m very excited about the pants. – Yeah– – We got some camo. – Some camo sweats. – Very comfortable, so rep all of that, Mythical.store. Check it out, we also have an Amazon store where we got stuff over there, so, rep ya boys. – Okay let’s talk about London. – Like we said we had never been to London. The thing that I’m really into are the little differences. I thought maybe we could start with just a couple of the little differences that we noticed. – Well there’s the thing that you talked about at the beginning of our concert that you were fascinated with. – When you stop at a traffic light and it’s ’cause the light’s red, that also means in London that you need to stop even though you’re driving or riding on the other side of the road, when you see a red light you should stop, but once you’re stopped, when it’s time to go, the light just doesn’t turn green, people. It turns yellow to warn you to give you a head’s up that it’s about to turn green and then it turns green. So it turns yellow on both sides of a red. Warning, you’re about to stop. Yellow, red, and then head’s up, you’re about to get to go again. Yellow, green. And I never heard of this. I just thought this would be something that they say about London, this seems important to me. – I think it’s that way in other places too other than just London, but– – I’ve been to other places, never seen it. I don’t deny that it could happen. – The reason it’s not other places, it’s unnecessary. – I love it. – It’s unnecessary. – I love it, I’m a planner, man. I like to know when something’s gonna happen. And specifically when it comes to driving, I like to be the guy who takes my foot off the brake and I like– – I understand. – Start to give it a little gas. – But here’s why it’s unnecessary, because it flashes for such a short period of time, less than a second. Your action that you take after you see the yellow is the same action that we here in America take when we see green. – But psychologically– – There’s no difference though, there’s no active difference. – There’s definitely a psychological difference because it’s, if the light’s green and I’m not going, I feel like a failure. So I feel like I have no chance of being a success unless I start going, risking going when it’s red which is unsafe and a violation. – I’m not looking for emotional support from the way I respond to traffic lights. – The Brits give me an opportunity to feel like a success when driving and I like it because I wanna be in motion. – But do you think that when they made the decision– – When it’s green. – To do this in Parliament or wherever they made the decision, they were like– – We were yelling about it. – We want people to feel like a success, no, they think, they have a traffic reason for why this is the case. There’s no other way– – You’re a civil engineer. What do you think it is? Like walk a mile in their shoes. – The reason that, from an engineering standpoint, and I haven’t thought about this much so I could definitely be wrong, let me just state that. So I am open to hearing the engineering argument for this but the reason that– – Can we loop that part where you say I could definitely be wrong. – They can loop it if they want. – I’m just inviting them to loop that, like GIF it, GIF it. – The reason that the yellow light is in between the green and the red is because there’s a lot of variables, there’s so many variables while all the cars are moving. – Sure. – Where you’re at, how fast you’re going. – Sure. – So there’s a decision to be made, right? There is no decision, it’s a binary decision that needs to be made ’cause, how fast am I gonna slow down, am I gonna go through the light, am I not? There’s only one decision that you can make when the light turns green and that is to accelerate, to go and so by seeing the yellow light for a split second, the outcome is the same, it’s unnecessary. It’s not needed, it doesn’t do anything ’cause people are responding to it the same way that we respond to a green light. – The thing that I read about it is that it’s related to stick shifts because if you’re not, to get in the right gear, it’s just another head’s up ’cause you have to, there’s preparatory work. I’m not making this up, this is something that I happened to read. – I understand that and there’s many more manual cars in England than there are in America. – And I only drive manual. – But here’s my thing. – That’s a lie. But I do like to– – If we’re all, I guess okay, all right, so– – We don’t need to camp out, we don’t need to– – It’s not up there long enough, because that’s not a bad reason because, ’cause now there’s a variable. If you’ve got half of the people in line have manuals and half of the people have automatics, the people who have automatics are theoretically going to be able to start that much sooner, so therefore maybe the length of the yellow light is the average time that it takes for someone to get into the right gear and go, to get in first gear and go. – Now I would also say that you could also already be in first gear like we do in America and wait so, the reason why I like it is a reason I already gave. It’s emotional, it’s psychological so there’s no argument here, it’s fascination only. – Well the thing that I pointed out at the beginning of the concert as well is that the urinals, there’s a few differences in the bathroom we’ll talk about one of the differences in the bathrooms and the men’s bathrooms is that the urinals and I’m assuming that’s what they call them as well, on the wall which you pee into. You can poop into ’em, I– (Link sputters) I have in an emergency. – I think they call ’em loo holes. The bathroom’s called a loo so. – Nowhere anywhere was there a divider between the urinals and now it is not, it’s not that there’s only dividers in the U.S. But there’s dividers in most places. – At least 50%. I did not encounter one urinal divider. – And they’re pretty close to each other so it’s kinda like, I don’t necessarily have a problem with it but I don’t feel completely comfortable. – You know what I think it is? They don’t talk, they don’t have smalltalk with strangers. That’s something that doesn’t happen, like it happens some in America, people will strike up a conversation with somebody just out and about. – Do you think that’s the case? You just went to one city for a couple of days. – I read about this. – Oh. You’ve been reading. – I just wanted to validate what I thought were the differences and I just happened to find that out, they don’t have smalltalk on like the tube, you know. – It’s weird for them to speak to strangers– – Now in New York, I mean, on the subway, I don’t see people talking to each other, but I think maybe there’s a higher likelihood that Americans will shoot the breeze at adjacent urinals if there’s no divider. But the Brits don’t have to worry about that. – I’ve had a number of people strike up a conversation with me while I was urinating. – In London though? – No, definitely no London. – Not in London. But if there was a divider– – That is not my preferred communication– – No, I don’t like, I don’t even talk to– – I don’t even turn my head. I will not respond– – Myself, I don’t talk to myself at a urinal. – No, definitely. – You don’t wanna be at a urinal muttering to yourself. That’s not a good look. – So they don’t have dividers. They also don’t have paper towels. – That’s good on them, lot of hand drying. – And this was the case in Amsterdam as well. – And in Australia. – There may be a– – I think everybody else has figured out that we don’t need to dry our hands on trees except for us. – But is it really better for the environment? Because you’re using electricity which in most places is still the majority of electricity is being produced by fossil fuel burning, so I guess once we go all renewable, it definitely makes sense. It has been proven that they’re not as sanitary though, I think. Don’t quote me on that but I think that they did a study that the hand dryers, even though sometimes they say it’s more sanitary, it’s not more sanitary because it’s blowing bathroom air around. Bathroom air is little pieces of pee and poop, man. – A lot of them have that Dyson where you like, it’s that small slot that you gotta totally get your flat hands in and then– – Air blade– – It opens up a little bit on an air blade and then you’re slowly pulling your hands back out but it’s nerve-wracking, man, because you feel like you’re so close to the plastic parts that everybody’s, it’s so close to. – And not only that. What happens on the way out? – Of what? – You touch the handle. You don’t have a paper towel. You can’t do the perfect bathroom trip without a paper towel. – We wrote a whole song about this. ♪ Then retain it ♪ ♪ For the doorknob may be tainted ♪ ♪ As you exit, bank it off the wall ♪ ♪ Into the trash can ♪ ♪ It’s the perfect bathroom trip, man ♪ – The paper towel is for opening the door. – We still use that instrumental at the end of our Ear Biscuits. – We do? – Perfect Bathroom Trip is the outro. – Wow. That is what that is, isn’t it? ♪ It’s a perfect bathroom trip ♪ – So you can’t have a perfect bathroom trip in England because you’re going to end up contaminating yourself on the door handle no matter how well it goes. – I think you can use your shirt sleeve. – Or your own hanky or your foot. But you open up with your foot, now everybody decides to open it up with their hand has been compromised. – Did you feel like the hotel was different? – Definitely. We stayed at the hotel that was right there at the venue, at the ExCeL. – Mm-hmm. – So I’ve stayed at this brand of hotel in the U.S. and listen, I’m about to sound like a spoiled brat, fine, whatever. – I think we already do. – Deal with it. – We are spoiled. We sound like it all the time. Just keep it rollin’. – While we’re talking about differences, I’m gonna tell you, the sheets were rough, man. – The sheets were rough? – The sheets felt like a little bit, a little cardboardy, and then the TP in the bathroom. – I was gonna ask Jenna if she thought the sheets were rough but she works for us. She puts up with us all the time. She can probably put up with a rough sheet. Did you think the sheets were rough? – Yeah you did, ’cause they were! Now I slept fine. – I didn’t notice. I didn’t notice the sheets were rough, but I’ll tell ya what I noticed. When I took a shower and then I got that towel down and I was drying off? I dry off my face first and I take a deep breath and the freakin’ towel smelled like ramen. – They make towels out of ramen there. (chuckles) – I mean, if it got real damp, it might woulda just turned into a floppy noodle. – But that might be an isolated thing because I have a theory about the rough toilet paper and the rough sheets, again, I’ve stayed at this kind of hotel in the U.S. and I do not remember this. And again, I’m not saying that it was intolerable. I slept fine. – I slept good. – It’s just the sheets that I enjoy on my bed and at the typical hotels that I frequent in the United States of America have very soft sheets. It’s just part of the deal. – High thread count. – And also, they have quilted toilet paper inside of the bathrooms. I have quilted toilet paper in my bathroom. – So what’s the theory? – ‘Cause I have, I want to treat my butt hole well. I mean that’s what I do, the kinda guy that I am. I actually have a bidet. (laughs) But then– – You know I got a bidet. I got a bidet for days. – I just think that something about, okay like– – I could set the exact temperature of it. – You have the history of– – We’re so pampered. – You have the history of the English people, you know– – I could sear my own butt hole with the temperature of my bidet if I wanted to. – Well, you don’t do that, that’s not caring for your butt hole. – Just like you just wanna, when you’re done, you just want that thing– – Do you wanna hear the theory? – To smoke. – The theory is– (Link hisses) – Sizzle. – That western Europe, people… It’s a rough, it’s a rough bunch, man. I mean actually, like legitimately, if you ever read Guns, Germs and Steel which I have recommended on this podcast before, a lot of people ask why is it that the people from western Europe who went to the New World, why did they not die from the diseases? Why was it the Native Americans that died from the diseases that the white people brought? – Because they had rough rectums, that’s why. – The reason is is because they had lived in close quarters and sort of this uncomfortable, bacteria-laden lifestyle. – Sewage on the– – Sewage– – On the bricks. – And people on top of each other, like if you go back to old school western Europe back in the Middle Ages, it was dirty as, it was so crazy. – Unapologetically steppin’ on chickens. – People dying all over the place, and then you’ve got the people in the New World, the Native Americans who– – Wide open spaces. – Wide open– – Pottery. – They weren’t living on top of each other and so you got these super viruses, super bacteria that are coming across on these boats and then just decimating the Native population. I think that they just have this– – Ruddiness. – They’ve been, it’s just been rough, man. And they like it rough. (both chuckle) They like the sheets rough, they don’t know that the sheets are rough. But something about coming over to– – We’re soft. – Coming over here and starting a new nation that’s all about freedom. (both chuckle) You know it’s like– – Freedom! (Rhett laughs) Why you gotta say it like– – We just got, we got ahead of ourselves, you know? We’re like oh, you know what? We can vote. We don’t have to have a king, we could have a president. And we got all, we all got all high and mighty about all our freedoms and then next thing you know, we got soft everything. – I wanna wipe my butt with a blanket. – Right. We wanted everything so soft. And we got it and now we’re spoiled. – Oh we’re spoiled. – And they’re like no no, keep it rough, man. And so actually, I envy them. I envy them that they can take it rough. They can take a rough sheet. They can take a rough TP, because my booty’s adjusted. It’s like now I go over there and I can’t take it. It’s like I have to travel with my own frickin’ toilet paper, ’cause I’m just a, you know, spoiled American. – Yeah you’re spending too much time minding the wrong gap, you feel me? – Yeah. – I never saw that sign, by the way, I never saw a sign that said mind the gap. I saw a sign that said Underground, but they call it the tube. – [Rhett] Yeah, we went on that. – [Link] I think the Underground is a pedestrian tunnel. – While we’re complaining about things– – No a subway is a pedestrian tunnel. – Now I’m gonna say I loved London. Okay, let me just say that. – But let’s go back to complaining now, ’cause you said it. – That’s where I’m gonna land. – Oh gosh. – I loved London. I plan to go back. But let me– – We think it’s funny to complain. – Let me just, I’m just gonna complain a little bit more ’cause I do wanna talk about the food. I feel I have to talk about the food, okay? (Link sighs) Now let me just say, I know that, again, not only are we spoiled just as a culture, we are spoiled above and beyond because we live in Los Angeles. – It’s a good food place. – And we just, we have– – Access. – We can get some good food, y’all. I go back, I go back to North Carolina and it’s gotten a whole lot better than it was, even when we moved away but if you don’t get up in there in the Raleigh area, you’re not gonna get real good food. – But– – Now– – No you’re gonna get comfort food that’s comfortable everywhere, reliably good. I mean– – I don’t enjoy Golden Corral. What I’m saying is that– – Well. – I just can’t do it anymore. – I know, I know. – You can judge me all you want, I just can’t enjoy it anymore because I’ve gotten too big for my britches. But what happens is is, we go to London and we just, well, you know what, I’ll let you take it from here because you had some choice opinions as well. Why don’t you tell ’em about– – Well they… It’s the trope that the food’s not good in London, and then they said, but it’s gotten a lot better. And you know what– – Could you imagine what it was like? – We went to this place. We had to grab some lunch and we’re like, wanna split, we end up going to this place called Slug and Lettuce. – (chuckles) Listen. – It’s a chain. – We ’bout to– – What on Earth? – We ’bout to throw Slug and Lettuce– – Under the– – Under the bus. We’re about to rip ’em– – The double-decker bus. – We about to rip ’em a new one with the roughest toilet paper you have ever, ever felt on your rectum. – Why on Earth would you name a place Slug and Lettuce? – Maybe it means something different in English. (both chuckle) – And why on Earth would I suggest after we saw like five places– – You suggested it. – Well because they had a menu out front and it said they had fish and chips on, it was like, you know, we need to eat like a British, some food from Britain. – Well and let us– – I need to eat some fish and chips. – We need to premise this with the fact that we weren’t really in the main part of London, where the ExCeL is, I don’t know what part of London we were in but– – We were like 40 minutes outside, we were in a suburb. – Were were staying like, we were in the Anaheim of London, for those of you who are familiar with the Los Angeles area. Like if you go to Anaheim and you’re like I don’t like LA, well you haven’t been to LA. It’s different, right, it’s a suburb. So where the ExCeL is is not exactly London. – Well and we took a gondola across the landfill to– – In the River Thames. – Yeah to see, to go in the O2 where they had all these different places where you could eat and we’re like perusing the menus as you walk down the pathway. I’m like, let’s just eat here. We’re gonna grab and go something. They got fish and chips and they got salads if you don’t want that and I need to eat some fish and chips. – But the reason we didn’t eat at, there was also a Mexican place. – There was a Mexican place, there was an Italian place. – But we have to tell a side story before we call tell the Slug and Lettuce story because the reason we didn’t get the Mexican food is because the night before, we had been out, in the main part of London, we went to Shoreditch and then we ended up going to, Soho or somewhere, I don’t know where we went. Anyway so, we were bar hopping basically, going to these old English bars that said things like since 1529, which, that was amazing to go into bars that were that old. We went to this really, really cool place that was inside an old prison and the– – Old jail, they had– – Old jail. – Yeah you go downstairs and it was all this brick work and they seated us in this room that was an archway entrance that then, it was one huge table that had bench seating the other left side and the right side in the back, just like a U seating and the whole ceiling was like a bricked in hanger, it was like an archway. – [Rhett] It was an old cell. – Yeah, it was a old jail cell and we didn’t realize that. – And we were like– – Very cool. We were hungry. – We were getting some pints but we wanted some food as well and so, I was like, are you guys serving any food, ’cause it was late, it was almost midnight. I was like, you guys serving any food? He says, “Um, yes, uh, “we have, what do you call them? “The small Mexican crisps.” (Link chuckles) – And we all looked at each other and you said– – I was like, tortillas? – He’s like yes. What he really was, tortilla chips. And some salsa so– – And then you were like, ooh yes, that. – So he said I’ll bring you everything that I have, he had some olives, he had some pickles, he had, again, this is a very cool place. – Gherkins I think. – But he brought the Mexican crisps, the tortilla chips. Now again, we’re from Los Angeles. We know what a frickin’ tortilla chip is, we probably can get some of the best in the world, right? – We’re very close to the place where there’s lots of– – The source. – Mexico. – And the tortilla chips were, I mean they were tortilla chips. They weren’t absolutely horrible. – They were small Mexican crisps. – The salsa was ketchup with onions in it. It was ketchup with onions in it. I mean that’s the only way that I can describe it. It was ketchup with onions in it. Now I ate two bowls of it ’cause I was– – He did. – I was very hungry. – You ate everything. – And I like ketchup and onions, it’s just, that’s not salsa. – I know, but, I mean you’re in London. Why are you ordering chips and salsa? – It’s all they had! – It is all they had. – So that’s why the next day– – It wasn’t like we chose that. It was like that’s all that they– – Right right. – Everything they had we got. – I was still having an incredible time. I loved everybody, I loved the scenery and how old– – The drinks were great. – The drinks were great. – The atmosphere was great. The people were great. – The people were great. But then the next day, you were like I wanna get some tradition, I wanna get some fish and chips and I was like, well definitely don’t wanna go to the Mexican restaurant ’cause I’m not in the mood for Mexican crisps. – This was Valentine’s Day. I was in a sad place at that moment. I wanted to be with my wife. I didn’t wanna be with you. – Right. – Eating Mexican crisps at some arena. – Yeah it was an arena, it was the O2. – It was an arena. – But you insisted on Slug and Lettuce. – At least well they got fish and chips and it looks British in there (chuckles). Jenna picks up the menu and she’s like crinkle browed and she’s like, well there’s like 18 pages of drinks and there’s like one page of food. This is just a bar. – But there was a lot of stuff on the menu because at that point, I had already made the decision that I wanted to get something healthy. – I’mma get fish and chips. – Regardless of how bad it is. So I had a little issue because I wanted the salmon and the superfood salad, right? – Oh gosh. – But they had salmon with vegetables and then they had the superfood salad with this other meat and so I went up there to order at the bar and I was like, so yeah, I want the superfood salad but instead of the steak, I want the salmon. He was like, oh we can’t do that. It was like I had asked to walk out with something. And he was like, we can’t do that, I was like, you sure you can’t just do the salmon? – You might as well have said, you know, I’d like to burn this place down. – Yeah yeah and then he went and just, I’ll go ask my manager and he goes and asks the manager and I see him ask the manager and the manager looks at me and he’s like. Like what? Like wha, okay. Can’t substitute, maybe I’ve gotten spoiled because you can substitute other meats in. – Now at that point, you weren’t that spoiled because at that point, what did you do? – I ordered both. (Link laughs) I said okay then I’ll take the salmon with that and then I’ll take the superfood side, the salad, whatever. Give me both of ’em. – The fish and chips just to cut to the chase here, were horrible. I mean why come, the fish and chips are horrible. They were the blandest, tasteless, I mean I’m sitting there like pouring vinegar and salt over the whole thing. I mean I need a lot of salt and they don’t salt a lot of stuff. I guess. – Well no, because– – It just was so bad. – Because we had good food but at the Slug and Lettuce, we might as well have had a slug or lettuce. – After our show, we’re devoting this whole freakin’ podcast to complaining about everything in London. (Rhett hisses) – We’ll be back, guys. – I feel horrible. After the show, we’re like, we can’t go, we’re just gonna go back to the room, we’re gonna order room service. We find out the hotel doesn’t have room service at this time of night. – Yeah, it’s a night thing. – So we’re at the front desk and we’re like well, can we order pizza? He’s like yes and he gives us three different flyers of where you can order pizza. – Now no places that are, no chains that I recognized. And listen, it isn’t like I think that Domino’s and Little Caesars, et cetera, Pizza Hut is the best pizza in the world, I think, but it’s good pizza. It’s passable pizza. – I will say that we have come to appreciate it anew. (Rhett laughs) Because they delivered this pizza. It was so bad, my wife loves pizza. I had to put her on video chat in order to show her how sad this pizza was and it’s a place, it’s a pizza delivery place. – And let me tell you that the guys at the front desk at this hotel we were staying in specifically pointed out this place. They were like, we got that the other night and it was great. And so I was like okay. So, I think that that it’s us, you know what I’m saying. It was awful. I don’t understand, listen. Pizza is simple. It’s dough, it’s sauce, it’s cheese and it’s toppings, and they failed– – You don’t have to tell ’em what pizza it is. – But they failed miserably in all four categories. – It was uncanny. – I was like– – How much of it did you eat? – Five pieces. (Link giggles) But I did not enjoy it. – You didn’t enjoy it one bit. – At all, it was just sustenance. I was freaking tired after our show and the meet and greet, we hadn’t eaten anything in a very long time. – Oh we were– – So hungry. – It’s so sad. – It was 2 a.m.! But let’s talk about the food that we did enjoy because I also had what I consider to be one of the top… It’s definitely top 20 meals that I’ve had in a restaurant. – I’ll agree with that. If you wanna get really good British food, get Indian food. (Rhett laughs) We ate at this place Dishoom in Shoreditch and people, this is like a sit-down restaurant, fancy cocktail drinks, all the Indian food that you would expect from an Indian restaurant and so it’s like a sit-down meal, dining experience. People are lined up around the block waiting for hours, people probably wait three hours. – Waiting to wait. – Waiting to then put their name in and wait. – We waited an hour and a half and we just had to have one person there so– – And it was worth, it was worth it. It was so good, it was like a magical experience and I think that’s the key. You eat all this stuff and it’s just so bland or unbelievably horrible and then you just have, you go to these dining experiences and I think it’s top 20. It’s either really great or just really great by comparison. But it was fabulous. – But can you explain to me– – It was so good. – How, okay so, right okay. Traditional English food has a reputation for being bland. Right, sort of meat and potatoes. – Mushy peas. – But then, one of the countries that they imperialized has incredible food and they end up getting, they end up getting that food and now they kinda call it their own. – Yeah. – But if they like that food– – They didn’t mess it up. – ‘Cause Indian food– – But why didn’t they make the other food better? – Right Indian food is so flavorful and so bright and like– – It’s, I think it may be the best food on the planet. – I think it might be my favorite flavor combination. – I mean we were gushing about it for hours. – Because okay, because the other good meal we had was the night before when we went to that really old bar that I think was founded in 1666 which I thought was cool. – Oh we had some meat pies, they were good. – And we had a Guinness and I had a venison meat pie that was, oh and then we got a little sampler, they have like a Scotch egg and some other things. All– – Great. – Really, really really good. – So you go to the right place, you can get some good stuff. – And that’s like traditional stuff. It was really good, it was like, it just had the right flavor balance. ‘Cause Stevie, Stevie got a meat pie at Slug and Lettuce. Do you remember what that thing looked like? – Oh gosh. They should just call Slug on Lettuce and that’s what they should serve. You go in, you’re like, you know what I want ’cause it’s all that you serve. I want a slug on a piece of lettuce and you know what? You will have a better experience than we had. – This episode of Ear Biscuits is not brought to you by Slug and Lettuce. – We also had some great Thai food. Very interesting Thai food just catty corner– – Oh. – To Dishoom when we couldn’t get in the first night. – Was that called The Smoking Goat or something like that? – Are we gonna talk about anything else ’cause let’s switch from the food, you know. – Yeah yeah yeah yeah, let’s, yeah. So anyway, we had some good food and we had some bad good. – We took a walking tour, I like to take a walking tour when I’m new to a city, I’ve said this before. We took a walking tour, this one, well, it happened to be a Jack the Ripper walking tour. Turns out, didn’t know much about the guy. He’s a serial killer and so, you probably already knew that and I think I did but I just didn’t wanna dwell on it, so I find myself walking around the city and it is butt cold and windy as all get out. I’m like– – We’re a little underdressed too. – A little underdressed. And this woman is walking us around saying, “Oh look, here. “A woman was disemboweled and her throat was slit “and then her innards were thrown over her shoulders. “And let’s walk over here, I got another story for ya.” – This woman’s uterus was cut out. – This woman, her throat was slit and her innards were thrown out of her body. Hey now, let’s keep walking. I got a surprise. Here’s where a woman, you’ll never believe this. A woman’s throat was slit and her innards were thrown out. – Yeah that’s what Jack did. – Just keep walking. And that just kept happening. It was quite repetitive. – And it kept getting colder and colder. – It was like, it was like a serial walking tour. It was like the same walking tour again and again and again. – And the theme of the night was, we don’t know who Jack the Ripper was. But it might have been this guy. It might have been– – [Both] This guy. – It might have been– – This guy. – And at the end she was like, so, who do you think it was? – And we were like (sputters), I think wherever he is, he’s probably warmer than me right now. – I was just thinking does it matter? (both chuckle) I mean, does it really matter? What we gonna go put him in jail? (both laugh) – We are horrible. We are horrible walking tour patrons because, like when we did that walking– – No I was being very nice though. – The ghost tour in New Orleans, we were not good patrons there. – No but because that girl– – That was not good. – She was not doing a good job but, this woman was really good at her job. – She was a Ripperologist. – Ripperologist. – That’s a title you can just give yourself. – That’s also someone who uses U.K. toilet paper. (both laugh) – Gosh. VidCon was a blast. What I mean by that was, we did a Q and A. Stevie asked us some questions submitted by Mythical Beasts who were there. I always have fun doing that. ‘Cause the objective is to throw Stevie off of her game to like just try to bring the audience along for the ride, that was fun. We did a meet and greet, we got a press the flesh with some fans, that’s a political term for just shake hands with people. – Yeah you should probably come up with a new one. – And we had done our concert which, I’m gonna watch the tape back. I’m sure I’ll have a lot of notes for us. But in general, I had a really fun time. I said it from stage, I was proud of you. You sat there and you played your keyboard for the first time. – Did you, okay– – Look at that. – Speaking of that. Now I’ve already told you that our, you know, musical hero John Mayer is learning, you told me that he was learning to play the piano and I went on his Instagram and saw that he was doing that. Do you know who else is learning to play the piano right now and I just saw on his Instagram? – John Legend. He’s been finger syncing this entire time. – Nope. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon is learning to play the piano and– – Very musically gifted too. – It was like I am learning to play the piano and he’s taking a course, an online course that Harry Connick Jr. Teaches. – Huh, really. – And John Mayer commented on Jimmy’s post and said, “I’ve got adult onset piano fever as well,” and I was like, hold up, so do I. And John Mayer was born five days after me. – I love him. – And Jimmy is a little bit older than us. – I like him a lot too. – Now John Mayer commented on Jimmy’s post. I comment on Jimmy’s post. At this point in time, he’s responded to John Mayer. – Okay. – Hasn’t responded to me but you know, give him time. But what is it? – You want me to get in the mix? – Is there something in the air, is there something in the water? – Is this Twitter or Instagram? – This is Instagram. – I’m on that. Shout-out to LinkLamont on Instagram. I’ll get in the mix. – It’s just interesting that old, old men are teaching themselves how to play the piano. – It’s a mid-life crisis kinda thing. – Definitely seems like it. We had a great time at the concert, thank you– – It was fun. – For all you who came. – It did open things up to play that piano. – I wanna make an observation about the crowd at VidCon. Not the crowd in the crowd but the other YouTubers, right? – Not our people. Not Mythical Beasts you’re talking about. I think I know where you’re going. – I’m talking specifically, now I didn’t know, I didn’t know many. I didn’t know any. I’ve got like the British YouTubers, TomSka and Jack and Dean and Dan and Phil, you know, the people who’ve been around for a really long time that everybody knows about. – I regret we didn’t get to talk to Jack or Dean. – I spoke to Jack. – Okay. – Briefly. – He said hello. – To me? – He didn’t, but now I feel bad ’cause you didn’t talk to him so just act, he said hello. Just take it. – To someone probably. – But I noticed that now there’s the old school like sketch guys that I kinda know and understand, but then there’s like the new school British vlogger, right? Maybe they’re European in general, I don’t know, but I just noticed there was like a uniform. You know what I’m talking about? – There’s a lot of brow threading, I noticed that. – Well yeah, both the men and the women pay a lot of attention to their eyebrows being very perfectly shaped, but everyone’s in athletic wear. – Yes. – Like cool matching sweats. Like all the girls had these, they looked like they were about to go to the gym at like a really nice resort and they had their hair in ponytails. They have a crap ton of makeup on. – Oh goodness, yes. – A crap ton of scent, perfume on. – Yeah. – And they look like they’re about to run like a celebrity track meet thing. – You know that filter on Instagram that makes your face look really fake and makeuppy? They just do that in real life. – Yeah but it’s like everybody’s really well put together. – Like an airbrushed face. – And then the guys are– – The same. – Sorta the same thing going on but like an athletic wear, I mean look, I got a hoodie on. You know, I’m ready to be athletic at the drop of a hat. – Is this a Ariana Grande type thing? I think, you know with the ponytail and the athletic wear. She’ll do that. – Is that happening in this country as well? – Probably yeah. – It’s not something that I’m, I don’t observe the young people anymore. I just look over them. – You look through your own kids, right? – Right, I have noticed that our kids are doing the athletic wear thing but it’s a– – But they take it to another level and it’s like, it’s like if your backup dancers were all wearing athletic wear, you know it’s like that, it’s a heightened type thing. It’s heightened. – Yeah. – And then you get, you’re on an elevator and then the doors are closing, all of a sudden it’s like, oy, oy, oy! And then all of a sudden the elevators open back up and all these people pour in and they’re like, they’re very excited about themselves. – Oh well– – That’s how I feel. – Okay. Yeah. – I just felt like I was on an elevator with a bunch of people very excited about themselves. Now we’re different. We’re just very picky and demanding. And crotchety and can fill reams of audio with complaints. – I’m not complaining about the extremely, you know– – They seem happier than us. – Well made-up– – I’m just saying. – Athletic teens. – A lot happier than us. – But I just made an observation. I felt like I was like, I had fast forwarded to some, in the distant future, we will colonize Mars and everyone will wear matching athletic wear– – Velour. – And paint their faces and pull their hair really tight so that they can be transported by the special train that grabs you by your hair. You know what I’m saying, it’s like, that would begin to make sense to me. But it’s so, everybody looked the same. It was very uniform, it was like this is our uniform. We are British vloggers. – Again, it’s probably not a British thing. – You think it’s just people of that age. – Yeah. – On the internet. – Yes, yes, yes. – Okay. We are people on the internet now. – I love the humor. Let’s not forget that. We made a video with TomSka and in the middle of the video I was like, I just love the way you funny. You know, I didn’t say that. ‘Cause that doesn’t even make sense but you know what I mean, like that was my sense of, I really enjoy your humor. – It’s the greatest. – It’s the greatest. – It’s the greatest, man. – It’s the greatest humor, it’s so self-deprecating. And we made it back. Oh, did I meet J.J. Abrams on the plane? Perhaps. (chuckles dramatically) I mean I won’t go into it but we’re buds. Rhett was, you know… I pointed him out when we were waiting to get on the plane, we were like sitting there. – Yeah. – Pre-flight like sitting in the airport. – And then we start walking to our seats– – That’s J.J. Abrams. He just finished filming a Star Wars movie. – It’s not just J.J. Abrams. I mean J.J. Abrams, this guy is responsible for the revival of the Star Trek universe. – Star Wars. – Star Wars. Shows that were on our list. – He’s a brilliant– – Of our most influential television, tale-ivision shows, Alias and Lost. – What a brilliant entertainer. Writer, director, producer. Oh gosh, this dude. – And your seat was right next to him. – And I’m like (sighs). I made up my mind I wasn’t gonna talk to him. I respected him so much that I didn’t wanna do me to him. – But it was a 10 hour flight and you weren’t exactly, you were next to him but– – Did I look at what was on his phone throughout the entire flight, yeah. He played Words With Friends. He played some other game I couldn’t identify. He was texting people. Somebody was like, hey can you talk? And I was like why am I reading his texts? That’s wrong and I didn’t read the rest. But it was kinda in my face, I wasn’t like craning. Like he would hold up, he was kinda leaned back, and he would hold his, I don’t know if he’s nearsighted or something, he wasn’t wearing his glasses. He would hold his phone at like full arms’ length away. – So you could read his texts. – So that we could both read his phone. – It’s like, Link. You seeing what I’m seeing here? (both chuckle) Yep. – He hadn’t talked to me, and then– – You talked to him at the end. – Over the course of the flight, I was having this internal dialogue about this dialogue. And also more importantly, the dialogue that I was gonna have with my daughter. If I told Lily that I sat next to J.J. Abrams and I did not speak to him, she would be very angry. – Yeah. – Matter of fact, when I got home and I was like, Lily, guess who I met? And we had a little yes or no game and she guessed J.J. and she got tears in her eyes. Like literally, she was like so, like, just emotional about the fact that I met him. (chuckles) So then I was validated that I had made up my mind that when we’re getting the bags and he’s about to walk out, and I noticed that a flight attendant, I’m not gonna call ’em a stewardess, came up to him like halfway through the flight and was like, this was from another area of the plane and like crouched down and talked to him for awhile and he was most gracious to her. – Oh super nice guy. – And so I was like, I was like J.J., congratulations on wrapping the shoot, and he looked at me like, am I supposed to know you and I’m like, I just saw the pictures online that were posted and he was like, thanks man, thanks. And he was like, yeah I’m really excited about it and I was like, well, you’re not the only one. He was like yeah yeah, I’m just glad that this point, I was afraid at this point, you’re always afraid at this point meaning when you’re done shooting but haven’t edited. You haven’t gotten to that stage. You’re not gonna have everything, he’s like, we got all of it, so he gave me an assurance. – It’s gonna be okay. – He had everything he needed. – J.J. Abrams has got his– – He’s got what– – Stuff on lockdown. – He got what he needed. – It’s good to know. – And I was like you know what, I’m sure you do, J.J. And that was pretty much it. I’m sorry I had to cut off my conversation with you in order to turn and talk to him but, I was kinda in the middle of our conversation, I just like whip pan– – I understood. – Okay. – I was glad you initiated with him. I was glad you waited until that moment to initiate with him as well. Because if you had have done something to embarrass yourself early into the flight then it would have been very awkward for the rest of the time– – Right. – For both of us. – Right. – ‘Cause you were next to me. – Very gracious, very gracious dude. Very talented. – Okay. – Well there it is. – So that’s London, you know, I’m sure that you have your opinions about our opinions and that’s what the world’s all about. That’s what the internet’s about. – You know what, let me know, #EarBiscuits, because I am going back to London on vacation with Lily. – And I am later in the year, both of us will be back in London– – We are gonna go back. – In 2019. – And we are gonna experience it for, just as tourists. Not in work mode. And I’m gonna tread lightly when it comes to the food but I’m gonna tread heavy when it comes to the experience. I love it, I love it. – Just gotta make the right choices, that’s all. You just gotta make the right choices, no pizza. – Let me drop a recommendation. We gotta start teasing that we do recommendations at the top so that people will endure our complaints until the end so they can get to this point and experience what I’m about to recommend to you– – Okay. – And to them. ‘Cause it’s my week for a recommendation. ♪ Check baby check baby one two three four ♪ Wreckx-n-Effect is the name of the band. This is a Rec in Effect. – Okay. – This is another song that, I was having a conversation with Britton the other night about Ronnie Milsap. ♪ Smoky Mountain rain keeps on falling ♪ – Yeah, big fan. – Oh he’s great. He’s blind too. It’s just, if you’re curious, he’s the blind country music guy. – I think he was legally blind. I don’t think he was completely blind. – Well he wears the sunglasses, if you’re trying to picture who he is. When I dressed up like Lionel Richie and sang Endless Love with you dressed up as Diana Ross, I looked like Ronnie Milsap. – Yeah, you did. – So that’s who this guy is. We were talking about him, talking about how much we loved him and he was like, well, we were talking about his voice and he was like, well have you heard his duet with Kenny Rogers? – Oh. – I was like no, I haven’t. ‘Cause Kenny has a signature voice and he’s like, well, and then we put it on and I played it. 1987’s Make No Mistake, She’s Mine. – Sounds like The Girl Is Mine Paul McCartney, Michael Jackson kinda situation. – It exactly is that. – About the same year. – A couple years earlier, this was originally a Barbra Streisand, Kim Cairnes song. But then when they did their country version, they changed it from Make No Mistake, He’s Mine to She’s Mine and they won a Grammy for it. Incidentally, it was also performed in a season of Glee, this song. So you’ll have to listen to it on your own, I’m not gonna play it for rights issues, but Make No Mistake, She’s Mine, Ronnie Milsap and Kenny Rogers. I sat there and listened to it. I’m getting goosebumps just telling you about it. Look at that. And you listen to it and you tell me who has the better voice. That’s the question and it’s almost an impossible question. They both, you think– – I would say Ronnie Milsap just based on– – But then when I heard it, Kenny starts and he’s got that rasp and it’s basically perfection. And then when Ronnie comes in, it’s smooth, like jazz– – It’s a good mix. I can imagine. – I can’t believe I’d never heard this song. You were going, you’re gonna love it, man. And you might like it too, it’s– – (chuckles) You might. – The voices. The iconic country music voices in one song, I’ll leave it at that. – If they play Ronnie Milsap at the Slug and Lettuce, I might go back. Just have a drink and listen to some music. I take it all back, Slug and Lettuce. – #EarBiscuits, let us know what you think about all this. Thanks for hanging out with us, for listening to us and whatever you’re doing in your day, man, I’m glad we’re a part of it. – Yeah. – [Link] To watch more Ear Biscuits, click on the playlist on the right. – [Rhett] To watch the previous episode of Ear Biscuits, click on the playlist to the left. – [Link] And don’t forget to click on the circular icon to subscribe. – [Rhett] If you prefer to listen to this podcast, it’s available on all your favorite podcast platforms. Thanks for being your Mythical best. (electronic music)