[Music] welcome to ear biscuits the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time i’m rhett and i’m link this week at the round table of dim lighting we’re going on a first date in the past in our minds we ask you what’s your worst or wildest first date story could be your first date of all time first date with your future partner a blind date etc your story might be featured in a future ear biscuits episode well i got news for you some of them about to be featured but first we’re going to tell our own biscuits episode this is it right the future is here yep yep it’s now um and i got it i got some thoughts about first dates and in our experiences in general but um you know they’re probably starting with our own experience there are probably some podcast hosts out there um who could fill up an entire episode of a podcast maybe even do a whole podcast just based on their own first date stories yeah not these two boys yeah and i i i think my story will shed some light on why that is for us but um yeah what was your first date well i’ll i’ll i’ll wait Jessie first i’ll wait until you i’m gonna tell i’m gonna just briefly tell the story of my first date with Jessie but i’ll wait until you’ve told your story and we’re talking about why we d we didn’t have a lot of first dates uh because i think it’s multifaceted yeah um i probably told this story before i and you know you probably don’t even hear that disclaimer but i’m going to say it anyway um you know Jessie and i our relationship started sort of before it was official because when i met her i was in college and she was a senior in high school i love making you retell this story just so you have to tell that and let me just say uh one of the things i’ve noticed and i think this is a good development in uh in society but like one of one of the things that i’ve noticed about just our kids coming up and the things that they say about the age discrepancy and and dating relationships now is the sort of the rule that everybody throws around is you don’t date anybody that’s not either in your grade or a grade that touches your grade so one year apart whereas when we were coming up it was incredibly common i’m not defending this i’m just saying it was incredibly common for like seniors to date freshmen it was just like it was pretty much the norm 25 years ago i mean i dated a sophomore as a senior oh there you go guilty guilty as charge does that junior gap there um so i think this is a good cultural evolution that uh that’s not happening as much anymore and now but for me you know i always think i was 19 and Jessie was uh 17 when we met and she was about to turn 18 just to clarify but we didn’t date we did not date i just liked her when i found out she was in high school i was like i can’t date a girl in high school even if she is 18 i’m not gonna date a girl who’s in high school she turned 18 in december of that senior year um but we continued to talk and we continued to see each other at church again i had met her at church in the first place and our families were friends it was so hot and so it was i mean there is something about meeting someone at church that is super hot just so you understand because it’s like a taboo to it yeah meeting somebody at a bar is like okay yeah we’re drinking we’re talking we’re there because we’re we think that there might be an eventual sexual connection with some chemistry no i’m saying that’s never happened to you or me well but i’m i’ve watched movies okay yeah yeah so based on the movies uh yeah yeah but i’m saying that that scene is people don’t go to church that’s not in a lot of wrong times for the uh potential you know connections in that way but people unless you’re right but the thing but the thing is is actually a lot of people are yeah oh yeah the purpose of churches were there to focus on god but in reality at a certain age you’re there to focus on the opportunities so but again we did not date and christian mingle irl we didn’t date at all while she was a senior even though she would say that we went on some things that definitely seemed like dates the first official date was when she was a freshman in college and and i was like okay i’m gonna i’m gonna really whine and dine this girl i’m gonna take her to outback and you’re also not gonna drink any wine of course not back baby but this is the thing i mean that’s exotic i didn’t i wasn’t taking this whole other continent i wasn’t taking her to outback ironically no outback was the nicest restaurant i could even think of to take her to i’m not i’m not joking you don’t understand where we come from out back was the nicest restaurant i could think of yeah now there were other restaurants like in raleigh the seats don’t even have cushions they’re like wooden booths it’s f it’s very rustic it’s it’s uh it’s all i knew of australia for my mind there was a spectrum of restaurants at one end you had fast food like mcdonald’s not gonna take a girl to mcdonald’s in the middle you had applebee’s yeah like that would be like applebee’s is a nice restaurant first of all just in my mind applebee’s is a nice restaurant it’s but it’s more of the decor kind of makes it more of a party atmosphere yeah it’s a neighborhood bar and grip but then the end of the spectrum the absolute nicest restaurant i could conceive of was the outback because they searched stakes and it was and it was kind of pricey you might have to pay like 16.99 yeah for for your own meal just for one i definitely remember thinking like i can i can go out on a date and and spend twenty dollars if i do it right and i was thinking with a tip i might with a tip and a blooming onion we may be getting out of here for 49. yeah that’s yeah that’s fancy and that would wipe me out for a long time oh yeah oh yeah yeah so you have to worry about gas money after that now my wife uh comes from a pretty well-off family and outback was not her idea of a nice restaurant but she didn’t care she really liked me and she never would have said anything about it she didn’t think anything of it at the time really it was only later that she was like yeah there’s like a lot cooler like not you know non-chain places like i didn’t understand that restaurants weren’t chains i was like oh this is oh there’s only one of these there must be not doing something right if you can’t franchise this across the world yeah then you’re not doing something right yeah so this these are the things i remember i remember not really what it was like inside the outback i don’t remember what i ordered well i i think we know though yeah but you can imagine like 1990 kind of the same as now in and out back probably 99 98.99 i don’t think they’ve changed in there um and first of all i still like the outback oh yeah it’s a solid meal every time but i had a pair of i had to think you know i had a thing that i would do i’ll go into lots of characters just in general at that time in my life which is a thing that i would do i don’t know why i don’t necessarily do that anymore but also not with not amongst your friends like i don’t remember you know that being a thing we would all do this like put on a pair of glasses and start using a different voice yeah yeah it was very common amongst i mean definitely like making videos but um if there wasn’t a video camera involved i guess we would still goof no but no but i think about um like campus crusade and i definitely think about summer project like i don’t know how you behaved on summer project but i saw a summer project i first thought yes i was there to share the gospel bring people to a saving knowledge of jesus christ and i did my part there okay um but i was also i took every opportunity to like get up in front of everybody and emcee whatever there was sure right and so i i remember coming back from uh slovak i was coming back from slovakia and i had spent the whole year the whole summer in slovakia like being other people we were doing these english camps and it’s like we had wigs and glasses and we had all these characters i just loved that kind of crazy american it was i mean a slovak audience is a great audience by the way i don’t know if that’s still the case but there’s ever a group of slovaks that want to watch me do comedy alone it’s probably not then i i’m i’m ready for that because i’m killed with slovak crowds now i had a pair of glasses some of those like amber vision probably the same ones that we ended up using for uh like walter sub check we ended up using them for the redneck characters yeah yeah you would put those on the they read the suns are you telling me you took uh costume glasses on your first date with Jessie no no this is a spur of the moment i had these costume glasses in my car at all times okay on the ready i didn’t know if i needed to in case in case a slovak pedestrian walks in front of the car uh amber vision glasses and these weren’t technically amber vision but amber vision glasses those yellow tender glasses are great if you need to like spot a deer in the sun um which i’ve never done but i thought that maybe an opportunity would present itself so i just had him in my car so she’s she’s coming to the uh she’s i don’t remember all the details but she’s walking through the car and i guess i had my son i must have preempted i must have planned this because i had my glasses i took them out and i put them on and i walked up her up to her and i said excuse me ma’am where are you headed and i and i was acting like i was a cop who was interrogating her now that’s not that’s not top glasses again it not really but you know it was it was clear what i was doing it was flirt also uh this was at a time impersonating a police officer wasn’t as controversial as it would be now you know what i’m saying like i mean i’m not going to get into that whole thing but like acting like a cop now it just has just a different vibe than it did 25 years ago so amber vision glasses make you a cop not uh my friend yeah well no but if you think about no actually that’s not true if you think about a cop that has aviators like a hat like a like a police hat and like aviators on that’s actually kind of like a 1980s yeah but these aren’t aviators these are no they’re aviators that have ant that are amber vision so they’re amber they’re shaped like aviators but they’re not mirrored if it was mirrored glasses then it would have been perfect but i didn’t have those i just had yellow tinted ones so what so this is all spur of the moment what was her response she was i put her in this weird position because she talked she’s told me this sense that she was like she was uncomfortable because i was like interrogating her but no oh you didn’t let up no but she was sort of mesmerized and intrigued by this choice that i was making now she had already like seen me do my comedy thing like in front of crew and that and she and she says that one of the first times that she realized that this may be this guy may be the one was when i was dancing down the aisle at one of those meetings but so she appreciated this and also she didn’t i she it was obviously very flirty it was the most direct flirting that i had done because i’ve been saying handcuffs i’ve been saving up you know i’ve been the good boy who wasn’t going to be dating and we might hang out but i’m not going to flirt with you i’m not going to open your door for you i’m not going to pay for your meal i’m not going to do anything that signals that i want to date you but i’ve been thinking about this all summer when she comes back when i get back into town i’m gonna date her and i’m gonna take on a real day and i’m gonna open the door for her i’m gonna pay for a meal i’m gonna impersonate a cop no rules just right and um again i wish i had a script of the things i said but it definitely worked in my favor there was there you wrote you wrote a script huh no it was you know i’m saying i i came up with it in the moment and i’m sure it was impressive and very funny and um to her only to her well but she was the audience yeah well i mean you had practiced on slovaks yeah i mean in a pre-internet age now we’re all the same now because of the internet but like crazy american going over there it’s more about you than this but she i don’t mean to throw slovak the thing that she uh that she said is that she hadn’t you know she unlike me she had been on a lot of first dates Jessie had been on a lot of first dates yeah and uh but she hadn’t and if you see pictures of me at the time i mean there wasn’t uh you know it’s not a lot of things very physically impressive about the specimen that i was at the time um but i was but i was really relying on my wit and my willingness to just do something unexpected and outside of the box good you went for it and she really appreciated it and um i don’t know if we ever went about that back to outback but i kept those glasses in my car for a very long time we still have them here by the way i believe yeah i think we still they might be at the creative house on that shelf now it’s probably the same huh because we lost the lens out of it the glasses that maybe i found it allowed me to marry my wife huh so that’s that’s that’s your first day that’s all i can remember but then it was very quickly second date third date now we’re dating now we’re an item later we were engaged yeah event uh well how how long did you date before you got engaged one year one year okay Christy and i dated for a year and a half yeah okay we move quick i’ll share my first date story but first we want to remind you that Trevor has a podcast we’ve blessed it Trevor talks too much it’s out there uh he’s doing it every week if you haven’t checked it out you should totally check it out he’s got all types of guests that i don’t know who they are i don’t know who baby ariel is i don’t know who larae i’ve heard of both of these people but it’s that’s the great thing about it is you get introduced but i have heard of two people in the entertainment space of the younger generation than me it’s like oh we got trevor he’s going to talk to these people i don’t know about and i’m going to be exposed to it expose yourself to the younger generation through trevor’s podcast you got to work on yours it’s the only way to do it on your pitch trevor talks too much there’s also a youtube channel of the song i’m going to say trevor is a natural you know yeah he’s doing great it’s so proud of it it wasn’t like we heard him doing like podcast impersonations as he was walking down the hallways of mythical entertainment i’ve never seen him wear uh headphones even shooting glasses um but he and it’s not an easy thing to do just let me say it’s not an easy thing oh this is just sit down and this is so hard no this is easy talk is talking to your best friend every week is easy but there was a time in which we talked not really people that we that we uh did not know and got to know them over the course of an hour and like had an interesting conversation with them an easy thing it’s like a first date every episode of trevor toss too much is a first friend date with somebody and you know they can go sideways just as much as a as a blind date could you know because that’s basically what it is it’s set up you know someone from their internet personality and then you’re gonna have a conversation with them you don’t know what they’re gonna bring but it’s up to you to make it work see if he does it yeah he’s good at it watch it listen to it trevor talks too much i told christy last night i’m gonna talk about we’re gonna talk about first dates what do you remember about our first date um and she was like well we went you know we went to chili’s i’m like yeah we went to chile oh nice that’s a nice there’s no outback but it’s it it’s a close second it it is lower than the outback but just a little bit so it’s i could probably i anticipated that i could probably afford dessert you know and then the bowling that we were gonna go on afterwards the bowling that you were gonna go on we’re gonna go on we’re gonna go out for what is it i don’t know what the verb is we’re going to bowl we were going to the bowling we were going we were going to do afterwards um yeah so chili’s is nice for a first date um when you want to keep it super casual especially when you’re very fixated on not building things up too much and really taking it slow you know as i’ve established i feel like you’re projecting though i feel like the current link is projecting on the former link when you pick chili’s you weren’t thinking about taking it slow you were thinking this is about as nice as i can do okay but that may be true the other thing that is true is that from a relationship starting dating again i was you know i was coming off my high school relationship that was like it it got way too involved in in ways that i’ve talked about it was it was uh it was an aggressive relationship that like it was a lot of guilt so like i wanted to change in how i did things i wanted to be very super christian in my in my dating relationships i wanted to be very calculated that probably didn’t extend to my decision to take her to chili’s but as she reminded me it did extend to like how i asked her on the date i was like you want to hang out this is what she remembers and because i asked her last night i was like do you do you remember what you ordered she was like caesar salad because i had already eaten dinner because when you asked me out on what you thought was a date the way that you did it hey you want to hang out i didn’t even realize that you were asking me out on a bonafide date it’s like you played it so nonchalant and of course i’m so much in my head that all of this was calculated i was like i don’t want i don’t want to build this up too much like that’s the interesting thing about link is that he’ll be doing something that seems very haphazard and misguided and ill-informed but he’s actually really thought about it yeah i’m i’m thinking of like that’s linking the nutshells of it yeah and it actually the overthinking of it is what fuels the chaotic nature of the the outward vibe i think so it’s even you have no clue what’s going on in here when you see what’s happening out here you know it’s like this guy’s just flying by the seat of his pants it’s like he’s skydiving ah but no it’s like i’m driving the plane but i’m driving it into the mountain yeah definitely it’s the plane’s engine is has stalled it’s hot it’s running hot man uh so yeah she ordered a caesar salad because as we get to chili’s she’s like it’s dawning on her that she’s on a date with me yeah and she’s like well [ _ ] i’ve already eaten so what am i gonna do if she didn’t tell me she didn’t tell me for months she may have never told me until last night no i she told me definitely we talked about it years ago but i don’t know when she actually first told me it was well into our relationship when she first told me it had to be that like i was i blindsided her with the first date uh we go to chili’s it went went well um i don’t remember too much about it impersonations i didn’t do any impersonations no no glasses no glasses i didn’t well no wigs i wasn’t i didn’t wear glasses at the time i was not wearing a wig no opportunity i i do remember that i had a lot of questions for her like topic starters you know i i wanted to really make it conversational and be very inquisitive i don’t remember any of the specific questions but that was that was my approach it’s like okay we’re gonna be we’re gonna be sitting here at chili’s what the crap i gotta have things to ask her it’s like you know cause you’re like what if it doesn’t go well like i’m accessing all this anxiety from like my first girlfriend it’s like when i call her on the phone i gotta write down the things i’m gonna talk about right like there there had to have been a little bit of that like in retrospect it was like oh we hit it off and it was wonderful but like the expectation of that i think it was having a bunch of conversation starters was was like my comfort blanket then we went like you could have one superpower what would it be a security blanket uh i don’t think they were that cheesy that wasn’t that cheesy 25 years ago yeah the people you asked that question in fact i asked that question to Jessie on that bench outside of macaroni grill when we first talked to each other i bet you it was okay yes and she and she says as cheesy as it sounds now at the time when you asked that question it was kind of like oh he’s asking interesting questions now i wouldn’t ask that question now right but at the time it was it was something that we did we like to talk about ideas and we like to you know we like to explore things beyond just like just the getting to know you stuff but and she remembers when we went bowling and went on hillsboro street to that like the bowling alley where we had both taken class bowling club bowling for pe 486 where we learned how to ball um remember the class number we weren’t in it together i had to i had to go and learn how to bowl at like 7 50 in the morning that’s a strange time to learn how to bowl yeah you’re not loosened up or anything yeah and a lot of it was devoted to like how do you keep score manually this is a skill that i i think would come back to me if i ever need if i’m ever like in like a rustic environment where we want to set up like post-apocalyptic bowling yeah when there’s no electricity i know how to register a turkey you know what i’m saying yeah not that i would ever bowl a turkey i never got that good but she did remember that my form was very impressive and of course you want to take a girl bowling because you can talk to her you know and then when she bowls you can look at her ass let’s be real and she can also look at your ass and i i was real swanky about it i would throw that right leg back behind my left ankle and i just i just felt like i was just just snapping it you know well if you got amber vision glasses on while bowling i didn’t uh you can not only see the pins but you can also see the ass even better oh yeah it’s like higher costs across a field um she was she was very preppy dresser i was like this like 90s alternative big jinko pants and like i’m surprised you could even bowl in the jeans you were wearing no it’s like you could literally hide three bowling balls up each pipe pant leg bleach blonde hair spiked up uh thrift store shirts that smelled funny even after you washed them a bunch that was both of our styles um bowling was good we didn’t want the date to end and we so we went and got some coffee and we talked about her ring that she still has that i said it was like a sterling ring with like this blue ball on top of it a sterling ball and i was like you know your ring looks like planet hollywood you know that restaurant in myrtle beach that like arnold schwarzenegger and rambo started i’d never been there but she was really impressed she like remembers that you thought my ring looked like the restaurant planet hollywood what a redneck and you know what it didn’t matter she talked about the uh scholarship competitions that she was in which i just thought were beauty pageants scholarship competition yeah there was i think that’s how they made you feel better about uh you know i i don’t know if she was if there’s a swim where division but she got a scholarship okay so whatever we talked about that she remembered that and that was it our next date was uh like a few weeks later but it timed out with valentine’s day and because i didn’t want to send this message that like oh this is getting serious i made it a group date but she didn’t know it was a date but i invited other friends to go who i think the people from our inner varsity um bible not other couples yeah it was all it was it was a couple other couples i don’t remember who it was that’s what she remembers it’s weird yeah the whole thing was weird and it was so it was you know it it it all happened within the context of this like what’s the right way to date that pleases god and you know that i don’t fall back into like a very quickly moving into a physical relationship and stuff like that oh yeah i was like and i thought we were both really thinking about it i don’t know if it was as calculated as as we project back on ourselves you’re a very calculated person but we were also in the midst of a culture that this is just the way that you did things so you weren’t an exception everyone every guy who was taking this environment very seriously and was in leadership and was leading a bible study or was leading worship or was him seeing like we were very involved yeah there was an expectation that number one you were only gonna date christian girls and most likely you were only gonna date girls that were within the same ministry that you were in you weren’t like we weren’t looking for iv girls or navigators girls we were looking for campus crusade girls because that was the ones that we were all in our family and for the people who didn’t and the guys who would like date somebody and date somebody else it’s like you just you just judged them exactly that’s what i’m saying so it wasn’t like i’m not saying you weren’t pious we both were but the way you’re talking about it is i wanted to make sure that i did everything right and it’s just like well we all did i i’ve never been the kind of person that evaluated every decision that i’m making the same way that you do yeah but i still was behaving in the same way because of the environment that we were in and the expectations yes it was double whammy for me but yeah it’s the fact that you were somebody if you were to go through the same thing oh i’m just dating some girl from my psychology class all of a sudden you would have 12 guys you had to answer to well what do you mean you’re dating a girl from your psychology class i think we sometimes we fail to remember just how i want to i’m going to use the term cult-like uh you know i don’t think the campus crusade is a cult but there are cult-like qualities to any sort of group that is centered around ideology and expectation like that because it’s just like oh you you’re doing that well are you are you doing it the way that we want you to do it are you doing because we’re holding you accountable the way you’re doing it yeah we were zealous it was even a little bit the fact that i was dating a girl from carolina you know but she was involved in campus crusade yep um i mean there was questions about that you know but but and this is what contributed to the fact that like we never experienced dating because like you know i had this serious girlfriend in my senior year and freshman year in college and then we broke up and then sophomore year i was like i’m not dating anybody i’m gonna figure out what i’m gonna how i’m gonna move forward with a plan and i like i like subscribing in this system you know there was this i kissed dating goodbye thing that was the that joshua harris book came out i did not read it but it pervaded our culture of well dating is not just something you do for the fun of it dating is something you you replace with a more rigorous assessment that then is all about like finding them finding a partner finding a life partner getting married but the thing that both of us did and i’m sure many other guys did being someone who didn’t also didn’t read the book but all but knew the principles what we ended up doing our application of kissing dating goodbye ended up putting in in this place where we were dating but we were dating without communicating that we were dating and we were dating in very purposely non-romantic ways it was just so weird and misguided you end up eating two dinners because you don’t know what the hell he’s talking about and it wasn’t again i don’t want to blame the i mean it was we were victims of the culture and the way but it was also we were just we just didn’t know what we were doing and we were misapplying even even that principle we were because that whole the point of the i kids dating goodbye which i don’t agree with and joshua harris obviously doesn’t agree with it at this point was that don’t date but you you do something that’s more intentional and you court someone right and it’s a much more intentional calculated thing i don’t agree with that either but the point i’m making is that we were so misguided that we just ended up saying you want to hang out like i’m thinking that i like you and i’m thinking that i’m attracted to you and i’m thinking that i want to look at your ass while you’re bowling yeah but i’m not none of that’s coming out in the in any of the actions that i’m taking there was a point where you would we made a big deal about the dtr defining the relationship where you do communicate very exp not explicitly well in explicit not in explicit terms but in no uncertain terms like i’m interested in you i want to date you i want this to be our status i i want this to be exclusive and then i would go on and say i’m not going to tell you that i love you unless i’m going to marry you so i’m never going to say that unless we’re getting engaged and we’re not going to kiss and we’re not going to have a physical relationship so you would define all of a sudden it would go from like this confusing thing to this like ultra over defined thing but the thing that we totally missed and what i’d like to focus on is just we missed dating the dating experience and yeah all right so our pendulum song way over here to be like very safe you can absolutely and this was our idea that like you want to protect from the pendulum swing in the other direction where you date nonchalantly and willy-nilly and you’re just stepping on people’s hearts and having your heart stepped on and maybe even worse maybe you get an std or an un unplanned pregnancy or you know it’s like so it’s like if you’re gonna err on one side let’s err on the god side of safety and it so that was very appealing um but yeah and in retrospect i feel like i missed out on this whole thing which is part of why i’m putting this prompt out here this like tell me about your like crazy first dates because like all we have to go on are movies you know and the stories of others um i just feel like the that first date with christy was really the only like semi adult like moving into adulthood dating experience i ever had because high school you know that’s different you know it’s like you’re in this self-contained this closed ecosystem where everybody knows everybody especially in our high school and in our county it was like well if you if you’re interested in somebody they’re probably dating somebody else so you got to wait your turn and then you got to jockey for position and then you can’t just go from dating somebody to the next person to the next person because kind of like our crusade experience it was like everybody would judge you as like you just you’re just dating trying to date everybody and even then there wasn’t a lot of like first dates it was like oh no the football games on friday night i’m gonna sit with you at the pizza hut afterwards right because we’re boyfriend and girls you were kids and then you start to pretend to be adults in college and you can go out on a date and you can you know yeah so the thing we never had which most of the stories we’re going to get into they seem to be like okay i’m either in college or i’m a single young adult and i’m actually dating somebody meeting somebody for the first time for a date whether it’s online dating or whatever like that we missed that whole boat because the relationships that we were in when we graduated college were with Jessie and Christy who we are still dating we’re now married to yeah for over 20 years yeah so that we just have these experiences today tonight is my date night it’s going to be a double date but uh with some friends from other people other friends ivy friends other friends yeah uh old old uh work work buddy who came into town let’s read these go for rachel rachel simone first date to a comedy club we were two of six people in the audience oh that’s awkward one of the comedians out of jokes asked me where i was from and when i said russia he said i knew it you have a potato face my date become boyfriend called me potato face for two years after that i thought that would be an irish thing okay yeah not a i was a russian and potato face i don’t understand i’m not gonna try to explain that because i don’t well i don’t know well this is just this community it doesn’t make i don’t i don’t think this is like a known thing that russian people have potato faces i think this is just a bad comedian’s you know she seemed to joke take the joke well though if if her if her boyfriend if she endured her boyfriend calling her that i i don’t think it was that mean-spirited it was like a good-hearted ribbing well what do you you know what puts him in a weird position one of the things one of the ways i’m evaluating these things is imagining if i were to be in the position to date at this point in my life with going to a comedy club would this be on the top 10 things that i might choose to do on a first date i would unless it was somebody who was like if it’s a hot ticket yes but just the six i’ll be terrified of this because yeah i mean i’ve actually only been to a comedy club uh i think maybe twice i’ve been to a handful of times i’ve been charlie good night’s back in raleigh and i never did that i don’t think i went i went one time with my dad like there was this comedian who would come on jumbo and billy i can’t even remember who it was the morning show and of course me and my dad were both fans of of them eventually got to go on the show and i took my dad because he was such a big fan but we went to the was it the laugh factory out here went to laugh factory there but when we when we were there uh me and my dad went it was we were both fans of this guy kinda that was fun i’d love to get going with my dad is a good idea out here at the laugh factory we went way too early wasn’t anybody there and it was awkward i think that this is uh you know again and i was scared that i was gonna get called out or like like i’m afraid of the magicians gonna call on me well and that’s like a meeting that happened to the laugh factory just i mean when you’re a tall guy and you’re sitting on like the second row you’re gonna get called out i don’t remember what he said but um i don’t think this is a bad idea i actually think that going to a comedy club with six six people this kind of thing and i know this isn’t the point of the story but it’s a good idea it’s definitely an experience putting people into a situation that is awkward and seeing if you can still have a good time and how they react okay you know what i’m saying that’s true i’m not saying you want to purposely put people in an awkward situation basically on a first date you impersonating the cop is a version of this because think about it but you were doing it at Jessie at least this is yeah we’re in this together can we get can we survive this but here’s the thing if if she had been i i could tell that Jessie was into the fact that i was doing it that i was making the choice and but she was kind of embarrassed because she didn’t know how to react but i thought that was cute and i also thought she likes this but if a girl would have been like what are you doing why are you doing this then that’s you’re being stupid it’ll be like well you don’t want to be with me because i’m going to be stupid a lot i got these glasses i got other things too yeah mostly just the glasses you’re not into this this is not going to work yeah so i think this is it wasn’t a bad idea for a date but absolutely just yourself be if weird is you because it’s going to come back to bite you in the potato face right if it’s but for him if he didn’t know he was stepping into that it’s it’s like you can’t take up with hey don’t call her potato face you look like you look like a mashed potato body which is probably what you might have done in that situation yeah besides i’m gonna be the hero in this moment so you you look like you’re like a chomp they’re making fun of your date and you just got to sit there and laugh at her i mean yeah i don’t you have to do i actually don’t know how to respond in that point like what is there a silver bullet here i don’t think there’s any reason that in in the context of a comedy club if a comedian calls you out you should get mad at them that’s just a bad look i just think you got it like you got to show that you can take a joke yeah yeah you know yeah this is this was a test for her and he just needed to to analyze it uh brittany westendorf brittany met a guy on match.com this is something we have no experience with online dating we decided to meet at a cute irish pub we sit down order drinks and start talking everything was good until not even 10 minutes into the date his ex shows up and start screaming at us she knew we had met online somehow and was yelling match.comdatematch.com day he quickly threw down money to cover drinks and tip and we left she followed me across the street to my car yelling about him we finished the date at a different restaurant funny enough the next man i met on match is now my husband of six years and we’ve been together for over eight years match.com wow that’s that’s crazy this is like one of those uh people on the on the bachelor where um you know uh they the one of the girls will find out that the other girl was like and she goes up to the bachelor and she’s like do you know that um vanessa just got out of a relationship like right before this started you know like trying to you know having somebody’s ex to deal with who thankfully i don’t i this is not something i’ve ever personally dealt with did you ever did you ever have with an ex well did you have an ex meet a current girlfriend surely i know i know that i know that Jessie met my previous girlfriend at some point and they were both like so sweet that it was just totally fine a little bit awkward Christy met my accent it was a it was awkward and but she went to school with Jessie so they were they were acquaintances yeah right yeah so it was like she was kind of in the she was still in the in the mix wasn’t she involved in crew yeah at carolina yeah and then if we had like retreats where like we’d all come together she would be there she’d be there she’d be there yeah i hadn’t thought about this in a long time and my ex-girlfriend but i would high school i would talk i would talk to her like friendly but like it was mostly i i think avoidance but my ex-girlfriend from high school was also involved in crusade remember that no who initials a jb oh yes oh yeah yes but but that was earlier that was like your junior year it wasn’t your senior there was more time so it was like but she was there the whole time oh wow but she wasn’t as involved right well she went to a different school that was a part of our group okay but no but she was like no she was there and my brother’s ex-girlfriend was also at the same school yeah that your wife was at halloween like there was like oh no it’s a smile i mean when we start dating a group of people and then we all got involved in campus crusade kind of makes me glad that i didn’t date more people but you know you talk about the the analysis thing with the previous person that’s part of what i miss is that like we always enjoyed meeting new people and then because we would both be meeting a lot of the same new people throughout our lives we we’d like develop this skill of assessing people you know we would come back and talk about like did you notice that guy has this weird habit where he like he grabs his right ear and he’s he sucks on his teeth or you know and we we would talk about people like we’re just fascinated and we like to assess people and first dates are kind of like that there’s this dance of like you said i’m just going to be myself if Jessie reacted like oh stop being stupid you’re making me feel weird it’s like that’s something you want to learn it’s like you’re learning so much so quickly on first dates it just seems like even if they don’t go well you could have this perspective that like i would like to give to my kids it’s like you know what just even if it’s not going well that can be fun because that’s mission accomplished yeah this is all part of it it’s a reconnaissance mission going both ways well one of the first things that one of the first dates after that outback date uh that we i took Jessie to baja burrito which i don’t even know if it’s still there it is across the street from nc state’s campus yeah and it was good it was a casual date it was we’re going to go to baja burrito this is like before chipotle and like moe’s existed it was the only place that we knew of that you’d get like a big burrito and it was crazy that it existed and we loved it yeah and i didn’t i his first burrito of i have there was in college yeah and so having having a burrito then just walking around campus and she specifically i remember thinking wow she’s really going after that burrito okay and and i say that because she then later told me she was like i made a conscious decision to show you how i could deep throat a burrito exactly yet on those amber vision glasses no she she was like i like to eat and i like this burrito and i’m going to eat this burrito aggressively to show you that this is who i am and if you can’t take me devouring this burrito graciously in front of you something tells me that it was totally good with you yeah but the thing is is that again my impression as not one who dates now but uh some people will go on a date and we’ll be like i’m gonna barely eat because i don’t want to send the wrong thing or i’m gonna order i’m just gonna get just a salad not because i’ve already eaten like christy right because and so i really appreciated that about her at the time i was like but i it was it was notable i was like man like she got like sour cream on her face right now and she’s not even wiping it off that reminds me um and christy remembers this too she was like do you remember we went on our third day of course the second date was the group date where we might have gone to applebee’s it could have happened and that’s kind of a lateral move and again it was chili’s it was it was valentine’s night tgi fridays would be a step down she was like you took me on a group date you were taking a real slow nonchalant but you know what that was fine because i had already had a date valentine’s day for lunch so she went out with another dude for lunch on valentine’s day he brought her flowers was this like another state guy uh yes i never knew him you brought her flowers brought a flower something you would have never i i did bring her flowers oh it was a group date but i did bring her flowers so our second day this is the second date you brought flowers yeah but it how did this but how did this become part of the linked plan this feels way too valentine’s day you know i had to i had to acknowledge it okay then third date i explained this to her i was like third date you get ribs because at this point if you got to know if you can eat ribs in front of the other person oh but you told her that yeah and ordered ribs yeah did she get ribs too uh i don’t know i don’t i don’t know if she got ribs yeah but b but my point was being getting ribs being your [ _ ] i’m gonna eat them in front of you and i mean you know how it is with me and she was probably noticing my chewing just like can i get over this yeah well good that you do in a restaurant that has sort of like a low hum of other people talking you can’t quite tell how crazy your chewing is it has to be like a fine restaurant dimly lit quiet but by the time you were willing to go to a place like that she was so locked in that it didn’t matter it was too late this is one of the unintentional things of how your plan worked yeah if you had to take her to a fine establishment on the second date she’d be like good lord it doesn’t matter if it’s pudding or ribs it’s so loud i don’t know how this happens uh ferda tweeted at us so i matched with this girl on tinder and basically we were planning to go to this fancy dinner you know and so i had to meet up with her and pick her up because she didn’t have a vehicle at the time and when i showed up to her house to knock on the door this old guy who looked to be in his 50s burst out of the door in his underwear and proceeded to try and beat me with a floppy coat hanger yelling random uninterruptible phrases and i ran back to my car thinking i surely had the wrong house address but to my surprise the girl came out chasing after him and had to bring him back inside and calm him down and after that when we went on the date she tried to pretend it didn’t happen which made it even more awkward than it already was but yeah now we’re married with two kids that is a crazy first date see that’s the type of stories that i wish i had you know this one in particular i’m not sure i think uninterruptible may have been unintelligible corrected from unintelligible but you couldn’t interrupt him that makes sense uh so i’m assuming now that ferda is married to this woman that they now know uh what the situation was but that particular situation was not revealed enough to our discussion so i have to assume that this man in his 50s in his underwear proceeding to try to i mean just if this is her father do they have a relationship at this point is this this is the father we need a follow-up okay you gotta you gotta you gotta pull back the curtain you gotta let us know what happened you can change names if you need to she tried to pretend it didn’t happen yeah that’s that’s strange i think the first thing i would say when i got in the car is uh let’s talk about the man that just tried to kill you he’s like absolutely feels this feels like the first topic of conversation that’s the thing about dates i’m imagining is that you build it up so much and like you want it to go well that it it makes it worse you know if you’re just like i what a papa i say i is who i is i am who i am that sounds nothing like that was god popeye okay it was god in the old testament well he does have big forearms right yeah um you know what i’m saying now when you’re when you get caught up in these like really manicuring yourself for a first impression obviously within reason but like you gotta you gotta you gotta put yourself out there and say hey if this doesn’t work that’s still mission accomplished and i think that this is probably a much more common thing i i think that dating ironically dating is down in general uh even though there’s so much with online dating there’s so many more ways to meet people and you don’t have to like oh i’m gonna go start a conversation with somebody it’s yeah there’s so technology is provided all these ways for people to connect but i think again i’m just this is like based on some things i’ve heard i think dating in general is down but my impression with online dating is that people for the most part a first sort of tinder date or a match.com date tends to be really low key like hey let’s just meet for coffee yeah this is like what because why are we going to make the investment of time and money that’s going to go into this if we’re going to meet each other and we’re going to you’re going to know in the first 10 minutes leave them on if this should continue yeah um which i think makes sense yeah it does it can be a little cold-hearted and but and then you can schedule like you know 10 in a day that way i mean that’s a lot of coffees that’s uh but what if one really ends up working they want it to continue you cancel the rest of them yeah and you tell them that too i’m sure people have done that they’ve got like a 7 p.m and a 9 p.m scheduled just in case the 7 pm doesn’t go well and then if it does they cancel at 9 pm i mean i’m not saying i advise anyone to do that another thing we missed out on was like the whole like kit first like are you gonna are you gonna have a good night kiss like that’s not that was never part of our equation because like there was such an emphasis on like well if the physical relationship is something you need to delay as long as possible and you know there was lots of benefits to that but i mean it’s a lot more exciting when it’s like okay is there going to be some sort of goodnight kiss um is tweeted at us i went on a date with a guy who fell asleep at the table 15 minutes in then woke up ordered himself dinner without asking me if i wanted anything and then fell back asleep until he made me walk him home turns out he was tired from his date the previous night oh gosh wow i mean it was hardcore yeah and i i mean being in a position where it’s like okay you know what i walked this guy home and i’m not gonna next time i’m not gonna do that i’ve got other dates i can apply what i learned on this date with this sleepy boy well maybe he was just being himself though i mean i don’t want to send next messages here well yeah he would if good for him for being himself Jessie eating a burrito just just voraciously is this guy’s falling asleep he’s like i’m tired i’m going to fall asleep good for him 40 years from now if we’re still together and i want to sleep at dinner but you okay but if you’re not into that if you don’t if you if you think that that’s not classy no i think this is it and i think you need to be able to say something it’s like you know what next time something is like seems like i’m being i like taking advantage of is not the right if i’m being mistreated here even on like a on a micro aggression level of they’re just falling asleep in my face somebody calls you a potato face or calls me potato if your date calls you potato face being ready to say hey you know uh i’m not really feeling this well link you don’t have to say any in this situation there’s a clear there’s a clear path yeah if somebody falls asleep on a date just walk just you walk away that would that would say you leave they wake up and you’re gone i mean this is ghosting this is simple it is not yes you’re right thank you for submitting your story and you know what you did you were the bigger person you walked the guy home but clearly the correct thing to do in this yeah if somebody falls asleep on a date slip out at first don’t pay the bill if my wife falls asleep on a date which should probably happen i’m not walking away we’re in a relationship at this point i’m committed but first date yeah they fall asleep you’re gone now if you’re in a bad part of town and you drove them there don’t don’t abandon them but that doesn’t seem to be the case i mean she walked him home he could have walked home anyway right i would say this this is in the days of uber right just leave that’s these days yeah jaybird you want to read this one the date started with skating and after Christy and i met at a skating social we so sexy we decided to wander around downtown and chat now again i love this kind of date because you know a movie is not a great first date because you’re just sitting there looking at a screen but just a nice casual walk around get to know this is this is good yeah it takes the pressure off to not have to stare at each other the whole time and you also learn things about a person for instance continuing on with jay bird’s story that’s when they decided to tell me a story about how their uncle stole their dad’s identity and how their dad was arrested the night before his wedding wow we’ve been dating over a year now now if i had this kind of story about my uncle and my dad it would be one of the first things i pull out yeah you know you gotta this is good you gotta have the the memorable interesting stuff uh in fact i would i would assume that you kind of get into you know how um if you’re like uh explaining yourself in an interview and you’ve got to go to like 10 interviews by the like fifth sixth interview come on a job interview the job interview okay you’re saying the same thing about yourself you’ve kind of yeah honed in your presentation yeah i have to think that there’s there’s an equivalency here right when it comes to dating you get a rhythm to it it’s just like okay what i do here’s what i do with match.com dates i mean at a coffee shop and i asked the following three questions depending on the answers i share the following two stories like you have just because it’s just right i mean isn’t this the way i think kind of boring i know but i’m just saying this is just how humans work you at least have a system to fall back on you know if i was like a prolific dater i’d have a system this would totally be me yeah uh and i think that it’s warranted to some degree you know yeah and and this guy was like you know i’m gonna i’m gonna tell the story about my uncle and my dad no that’s cool it’s but it’s not about him though it could be seen as deflecting a little bit let me tell you about my family yeah takes the focus off of him for a moment but but you know what it it worked they’ve been dating for over a year here’s one page tweeted at us and i don’t you know i don’t know how much you thought about this before you did it but you did it so we’re gonna read it uh i met up with this guy who was absolutely smitten with me a few years back he picked me up for dinner in this new dress i bought and he even bought a new tie it was all very cute very formal dude wearing a tie anyways we had dinner and it was going super well when we got back to my apartment things started to get hot and heavy oh we were still fully clothed and suddenly right after he pulled my dress straps off and down partly okay details he hesitated and loudly stammered uh i need to go change i looked down and there was a huge wet spot forming for reference i was 22 and he was 26. i was in so much shock that i just let him leave to change he had an extra pair of pants handed okay he was prepared for this makes you wonder if that happens a lot to him after nothing else happened and he never spoke to me again i hope he was able to get the stain out of his khakis you know what okay paige thanks for sharing it happens to the best of us oh yeah would you like to share um i had a uh okay seems like the answer is yes a hush falls over i don’t know okay this is not quite the same situation and i’ve wow i never thought i would share this but this is what your biscuit’s all about um i and i’ve never had a situation where it was just like things were moving in that direction and then the gun went off by accident uh as is the case in this situation there’s a lonely island song about this what is it jizz in my bag yeah right it’s a great song um oh man but there was a dry humping there was a dry humping uh excursion in sweats oh yeah that that ended in there this is different but yeah of course the gene jamming i’ve talked about this too oh so you’ve yeah you’ve jizz in your pants while dry humping yeah okay so i got you to exit but that’s different than what happened here and this guy apparently knew there was a possibility because he has an extra pair of pants good for him give always be prepared it’s a good boy scout i mean first of all i don’t know what i i don’t think it’s it’s of course it’s embarrassing it’s embarrassing but but it’s but doesn’t change it as a compliment right yes because it’s just like man like he was so into into you that just the thought of being into you i think it was more than just the thought there was more going on than just thoughts what was going on well they were fully clothed but things were starting to get hot and heavy yeah but like it just felt like straps were being pulled down it was like things were getting ready to happen well i don’t think there was friction i think this is fully oh not i think this is not friction but fiction in his mind well i mean they’re making out there’s mouth friction yeah but not friction on them yes yes you’re right that’s the point i’m trying to make point made um and so yeah but hey you know what it happens to the best of us because we consider ourselves the best well so i do think i i mean i’m actually not what happened to us but i’m interested to think to to know do do women take this as a compliment and then i do you know there are some things that um yeah this isn’t this isn’t something that you want to be happening on a regular basis and this could they should take it as a compliment they should think it’s a compliment but it also is a sign that like okay well if we actually begin making love then this is not going to be a very long experience well the second time around it might be it might be yeah yeah you can’t you can’t draw a long-term conclusion from a short-term explosion don’t get in your own head about this so no that it is not an indication of a lack of prowess or stamina it’s a it’s just no but it could be an isolated incident but that’s how he interpreted it because he never spoke to her again and that yeah that’s sad and i don’t know if because for vulnerability which is great for building a relationship if this happened to me i’m just going to go ahead and tell you what i would do okay i’d go to the bathroom i’d change i put on my amber vision glasses come back outside i come back out and say excuse me ma’am there’s been an accident no one is everyone’s okay you’re being arrested for being too hot you know what i’m saying like yeah you gotta have the glasses you gotta be ready you gotta be ready for these or or you could have a uh a puppet a guy excuse me a guy who just is in his pants and then comes out of the bathroom where the puppet okay just like the guy who falls asleep run leave at that point oh my goodness edgar alley poe uh if you want to stop listening to this podcast it that’s that was the climax okay no offense to edgar allen poe but here we go went bowling hey great first date was fine until he started pouting because i beat him okay a grown-ass 24 year old poutine because i beat him in bowling later at dinner he ate a barbecue burger with blue cheese he asked if i wanted a bite okay he’s nice i declined because i don’t care for barbecue sauce or blue cheese wow he tipped less than ten percent because they were busy and service was a little slow i left a better tip oh he walked me to my car and sneak attacked me with a kiss a blue cheese kiss all i could taste was blue cheese and barbecue sauce i threw up on his shoes i don’t even feel bad about it we never went on another date wow okay yeah i think if you’re knowing that this date is not for you uh well it was a sneak attack kiss so i can’t hold that against you i mean just maybe maybe don’t vomit on the guy’s shoes i mean he’s still a person i recently i’m not a person that you want to date anybody the thing that i’m going to focus on here is the tipping because i’m a competitive person and i’m not saying i would pout if i got beaten bowling but if you’re going to bowl with me on a first date i am trying to beat you just i can’t help it i’m a competitive person i’m gonna be having fun i may bring my glasses but i’m gonna try to beat you uh i like blue cheese if she beats you you’re gonna you’re gonna have a hard time with that uh i think no i think i would respect a big damn girl but Jessie bowled a 36 the first time we ever bowled together and i actually ended up making a there was a bowling party uh barbie or something like that it wasn’t barbie it was a different brand i ended up taking the bowling party barbie and changing it to bowling party Jessie and putting all these quotes about Jessie and it says she can bowl a 36 and gave it to her as a gift oh in that case you gloated yeah she loved it she’s not competitive she wasn’t trying to beat me but uh the tipping thing i recently heard somebody say and this is a very rough paraphrase do not trust a person who treats underpaid service workers poorly for no reason at all right so people and it was in the context of a waiter translation if someone is for no reason at all just kind of an [ _ ] to a waiter they’re not a good person like i’m not saying i necessarily agree with that but i’m saying that was the point with that that was the point that was the point that somebody was making i think that i think that you kind of have to have you have to have special knowledge to then come to that conclusion and a lot of people don’t have that they’re just ignorant to the fact that like of i if you’ve never waited tables and you’ve just because you haven’t thought about that particular type of job doesn’t make you someone who doesn’t have empathy it doesn’t mean that you’re a horrible person i’m getting defensive now because i’m sure i’ve historically undertipped because i have a fixation with finances it’s about me it’s not about them but also i do reserve the right now to my tip reflects the quality of service but i do tip generously well but there was a time in my past when i wasn’t thoughtful about it and it doesn’t make me automatically a horrible person that you shouldn’t go out on a second date with but it might warrant a gentle conversation okay but you’re talking about two different things you’re talking about two different things first of all i have a different philosophy of tipping and my wife is like the i mean i’m a generous tipper it’s twenty percent at least and it and and so if you’re a bad waiter you get twenty percent and if you’re good it goes up from there that’s my you know i don’t i’m a i’m a i don’t punish people i’m a i i’m a wealthy person so it’s not this is not a sacrifice for me to do that right um so you know but and when i was when i was uh not a wealthy person i was 18 and then up from there but that’s not that’s what’s being talked about here the thing i’m talking about is you know the people who um are just kind of just short where the waiter right from the beginning like get frustrated and they’re kind of just an [ _ ] to a waiter before they’ve even really done anything if it’s part of a if the tipping is part of a bigger package then yes this absolutely can be an indicator because that’s the thing that i’m talking about and and i was just thought it was i think it was a tweet i don’t know who tweeted it but i was like that’s an interesting thing because i’ve always been like man yeah like i don’t understand it when people and i’ve been in groups of people before and i haven’t seen you be an [ _ ] to a waiter before but i’ve been a group of people where i was like ah this person is being really short with this person and treating them like a servant yeah you know what i’m saying yeah that is just there to please them and i’m just like i i get bad vibes and i just have to believe that that translates into other other things yeah throw up live shoes but liking blue cheese that’s an attribute that means you’re probably a person of good character okay neppy nut we are going to read your tweet i had an impromptu date with someone i met at a meetup group during the course of the date he did the following told me he was missing a testicle due to an accident okay it happens yeah apparently didn’t have a phone wallet or car okay yeah yeah it’s when offered to drive him home he tells me he lives it an hour and a half away okay uh he asked to use my phone to call his mom to get a ride leaves a voicemail for his mom and talked in a baby voice for the whole thing yeah it’s like i mean probably the testicle’s not his fault but like there’s a preponderance of evidence here leaving that one on the table right uh didn’t even have the right number for his mom and got a call back from someone who was pissed that they were calling gosh yeah don’t call me so fake i ended up leaving him at an ihop but i also made out with him a little since i felt like an [ _ ] leaking give him a little nookie for the road that’s not nookie that’s not what’s nooky intercourse a look i mean but a little nookie can be a kid it’s just a little intercourse no okay well i guess we have different definitions he didn’t give him nookie that’s good uh i didn’t hear from him for two weeks until he emailed me and asked if we could do it all again so i really enjoyed the date this to me the evidence points towards um this guy was making a youtube prank video it’s okay well what come what kind of things could i say well i’m going to start with i’ve got one test yeah you got to take that into account now you know are you being you youtube pranked it’s just like how far can i push this and it’s going to be a tick tock rant how far can i push this and still make out with a girl yeah that sounds like a really bad it’s come on well don’t make out with somebody out of guilt let’s not do that yeah i i agree you know you don’t have to do that you don’t have to do that yeah you can’t hold the one testicle against the guy accidents happen let him do that yeah and you got to protect it but based on all the other actions that he’s taken it he may have you know it may have been a bonehead move that ended up resulting in losing a testicle we don’t know wow i mean maybe maybe we circumvented a world of hurt by not having more first dates and i’m certainly grateful for how it ended up yeah still got both our testicles no neither one of them i mean they work but just not in the same fashion as they did right you know back in the day um instead of giving a wreck this week to shut things down i wanted to acknowledge that many of you responded to my request to share pictures that you recreated with with large spans of time in between them just like uh Jessie and Locke did when they went to san francisco carol thanks for your golden gate brill has a golden gate bridge one a lot of san francisco sites elizabeth um recreated photos um that their mom took on a slide look at that it looks like either that’s a new slide or the slide was painted but you know what i’m into it i think good form yeah this is like keeping keeping the arms in the right place you get the facial expressions the same way this is that’s what you got to do that’s a real good one um harrison said a handful of years ago my sister and i recreated a bunch of childhood photos for a christmas gift from my mother that’s a great idea here’s one of the better ones it’s like covered a younger brother in stickers and and did it again as an adult and also and capture the same sort of faded film process quality yeah really nailed it mythical noodle rat recreated a trio photo here not as much time had passed there but i’ll still expect eleven years have passed well you have an age to do it yeah you guys haven’t changed in 11 years caroline said there’s 25 years between uh these two sibling photos i love how they’re like especially the dude in the back is really trying to he’s like seething with anger inside for being in this well but but no they they got the same both brothers got the same uh expressions down pretty solid and then finally uh lisa i think how i would say that and these so these are lots of um washington d.c some photos my husband and i recreated for my childhood trip to dc 1995 to 2014. okay that’s good i like it if you’re watching the audio version of this you’re not seeing as much but you can click on it it’s a fun exercise yeah and you know just to wrap up the the our fears with like blowing up our own origin story uh Kirsty tweeted at us today’s ear biscuits was yet another example of us as mythical beasts being given a glimpse behind the curtain did some of the revelations come as a surprise yes but the fact that rhett link are comfortable and secure enough in themselves in their body of work to explode their origin story is in a strange way reassuring it highlights the fact that regardless of how their friendship came into being it is unbreakable the initial spark is undoubtedly important but it takes far more than a spark to keep a fire burning brightly i’m glad that you see it that way fire i was a little nervous after we finished recording that and then seeing a couple of tweets early early the day it was released under the hashtag your biscuits people were like shocked and but then i started realizing that people were kind of they were shocked but they weren’t they didn’t feel deceived and they weren’t mad i didn’t see anybody who was like legitimately upset about it they were like yeah we get it um yeah but thank you for articulating that it’s it’s still it’s still just an ear biscuiteer thing you know this you know the truth yeah it’ll never get out to anyone else so hashtag gearbiscuits um let’s keep the conversation going we we 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