Welcome to Ear Biscuits the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rich. And I’m Link this week at the round table of dim lighting. I gotta talk to you about the trip that I just got back from, man, I’ve been spring breaking it. And I, again, I’ve been, we got nothing to talk about because you got back and I’m like, well, I can’t ask him about his trip. Until now. Now we have everything to talk about. My trip to Park City, Utah. Did you have as much fun as you seem to be projecting? I did some. I did. I did some mining. Crypto. No, like you actually, I don’t know. That’s the first thing I thought of when I thought of Utah and I didn’t wanna make a Mormon joke. Oh, was that like, I don’t know. Some sort of precious gem stones, metals. I think it does happen there. There’s still a lot of that happening there, I don’t know if you know, there there’s a resurgence of the gold rush there in Utah. I totally making that up. Is that where we mine charcoal? That wasn’t Utah, that was Nevada. That was Nevada Tonapah, Nevada for commercial Kings. So yeah, I’m gonna give you an update on my spring break experience to wet your appetite. Wet your appetite your own spring break. I was also here. I know ’cause you that’s what I’m saying. You have not gone on your spring break. No, I’m saying while you were on your spring break, I was just here by myself. Yeah. I don’t wanna hear about that unless something catastrophic happened to the company, which I assume you would’ve already told me and I was still following along on Slack. Like I was lurking in the emails in the Slack, just to make sure that like you were holding things down and it seems that you did. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I didn’t have, I had nothing happen that is worthy of talk, talking about on Ear Biscuit. So the runway is clear. Not that anything, nothing happened, right? Stuff did happen. It’s just not. No, I didn’t work at all. Oh, hey. I mean, I was just on Slack a little bit. You earned it, you earned it man. Double up, double up on the spring break. I did work, but nothing interesting happened. ‘Cause your spring break’s coming up. My spring break. As of this recording. My spring break might be a two episode. Oh yeah. I don’t know. I love What’s gonna happen. Fact that like we call our kids spring break. I our spring break because we do make it our spring break. I mean, we have this luxury of saying, our schedule from a production standpoint is pretty much set up over a year in advance. And we’ve learned as soon as like the schools publish what their, when are for the kids that we we’re able to block off sometimes. Yeah. We don’t function like a typical YouTuber. And every time we interact with a typical YouTuber about like being on the show or doing something together, we it is a reminder of– We could have booked it. What things are like Nine months ago. Without a schedule. It’s like you trying to book us. Yeah. It’s like trying to coordinate with other people is that’s one of the reasons that we stopped interviewing people on the show was because, well, they pretty much, didn’t schedule stuff more than like a couple of weeks in advance. And then the like the, if you try to schedule it before that, it’s like, wow, I have no clue what I’m doing– Right. Two months from now. I’m like, I know what I’m doing 12 months from now. Yeah. With no exaggeration, like the things that matter most that in terms of like you producing our ongoing content and then there’s like spaces that are left open for stuff that we can slide in. But when it comes to like vacations and stuff like that, and you gotta coordinate with multiple children? Good gracious. Right. But it is kind of a luxury to be able to say, Hey, we’re gonna kinda run this year’s schedule through one of the grids being our kids spring break so that it can be our own spring breaks, very nice. It’s a very nice thing. Yeah. So we went to Park City because, I let it be more of Lincoln’s decision because when Lily turned 16 years old, we had this idea, okay, 16 is gonna be a special year. We’re gonna take a trip with just the 16 year old. So Lily, wherever Lily wants to go, we decided to go to London, she decided to go to London. I’m sure there’s an Ear Biscuit about that. Of course, Lincoln turns 16 in the midst of the pandemic. He also turned 17. Got nothing. So we’re like, Hey, you know, it’s like your 17 spring break, you get to decide. And he just said he wanted to go skiing. And I’m like, oh yeah, okay. I like this little snow skiing. You’re developing a hobby. What if he had to said water skiing. An expensive one. He was like, oh, to try water skiing, like how would you have been like, would you have redirected that? We would I think– ‘Cause your dad’s a barefoot water skier. I would’ve gone water skiing. Yeah. It’s part of that kinda wants to go water skiing again. Have you tried? Never tried. The fact now, Here’s the thing. Barefoot water skiing. The fact that your dad has barefoot water skiing means that you probably have the correct type of feet. My foot is nothing like my dad’s, but I think my foot’s better. I have a flat foot. I think flat foot is perfect foot. He’s got a very achy foot. He’s got a, yeah I never thought I could, you know, first of all, I don’t, I’ve never seen a six foot seven person barefoot skiing, but– With an arch like yours? I think that you’ve got like water skiing feet. I got skiing feet. We should do that. We should bring back the vlogs and link. I’m definitely– Link barefoot water skis. I feel like I could lose a toe or a nose. It’s a dangerous. It’s just no, no, no. It’ll it may. It’ll dag you a little bit, but you can’t get that hurt. Yeah. Okay. So I can walk you through the experiences that I had with my family and my dogs. The dogs are actually a big part of this trip. And so that was something that we had to navigate. So I wanna unpack all that for you, but something top of mind, for me, that’s not, I don’t think it’s related to the trip. Maybe it will come back to be related. I wanted to talk first just to kind of give more of my anxiety assessment journey update at the end of my spiritual deconstruction episode. Thanks for the feedback on that. Thanks for us feedback on all of our episodes we use hashtag EarBiscuits. We look at all those. I know a lot of you were talking about how you really enjoyed getting to know Greg, the roommate little teaser there, we’re definitely pulling together, digitizing footage from the archives, never before seen except when we showed it for a captive audience in a room, the first comedy videos that we ever made, that a lot of them did feature Greg. I am so– Digitized those Excited about this. You don’t understand, like I had an idea that you had these tapes, but I just kind of forgotten, like what’s on these tapes, all this just random footage of us in our dorm room, in our apartment with Greg, with Tim, all the early videos we made, all the outtakes from the early videos we made. Yes. So. And I’ve only started scratching the surface. Right? Of a… And just so you know. Digitizing this stuff. The only place these are gonna be available is the Mythical Society. And if you’re not a member of the Mythical Society, now once these things start rolling out, I just gotta say, after having watched a few of them. Yeah. I’m like, this might be the most compelling thing that we’ve ever made because it’s just interesting to find something from like 22, 23 years ago. That was the very genesis of us. Yeah. Starting to try to be funny. It’s the actual start of what we do now that no one has ever seen, except for one time beyond a small group of friends. So we’re planning now how we wanna roll out these archives and it needs to be on the Mythical Society because it’s, that’s what the Mythical Society is for that level of access. There’s also some like special stuff, some rights and licensing issues that like, otherwise we just wouldn’t be able to navigate. So yeah, that’s a little teaser because that’s also top of mind for ’cause we’re looking at it, but back to the anxiety stuff. Yeah. In the spiritual deconstruction episode at the end, I talked about how at the top of the year with Christy’s encouragement based on conversations that I was also kind of bouncing off you and a few other friends. Deciding to not only get a new therapist, but also try out anxiety medication. So I’m on Citraline, I’ve gone from 25 milligrams to 50 milligrams and it’s since January and going through this process, I’ve seen it as more of a I’ve my level of observation of my own anxiety has really gone up. You know, I ’cause I’m it’s, it feels kinda like an experiment, like, okay, now I’m taking these pills that, I’m open to it. I just, and you know, people close to me have had really good experiences and then it’s had a positive impact on their life. So it’s, I haven’t had a stigma associated with it. I just never made the connection that I personally needed it. But then I kind of got over that hump that, yeah, I think I could benefit from this. I just need to observe what impact it’s having just to see if this is a good choice for me. And then also if it is, and I do believe that it is like I’ve experienced positive benefits. What now is the like right dose? How do I dial that in? Because even like yesterday and this morning, especially this morning, like I realized, I was like, man, I am so anxious. I and I do think I am more in tune with how I’m feeling like my therapist is helping me like observe more of the symptoms of anxiety and my body like, oh, I feel a little nauseous. I feel a little tight. Yesterday by the end of the day I realized and when I got home, I was like, you know what? I’m just, today was a tough day. I was just really angry. And it was like, and the frustrating thing is that like, I don’t know why, like I start searching for the thing that made me angry and feel frustrated. And it’s like, I can’t point to one thing. It’s like, nobody did anything to me. And then today it wasn’t. And so it was one of those things where it was like, I’m kind of ready for this date in, I’m gonna go to bed at nine o’clock, which is only 20 minutes earlier than when my– Right, about say, that’s not too much of a stretch. You are right. And then today– Did your music start playing? There was, yeah, it starts playing. But then today it was like, I just woke up anxious, just like very on edge, very nervous, not angry anymore, not frustrated, but I was just trying to figure out what it was, but then also try to employ some techniques that I’m learning to deal with it. Whether I know the answer or not. So like some brief breathing techniques of like slow breathing in like straw breathing, where you, you breathe in slowly, but then you breathe out as if you’re breathing to, through a straw so that your out breath is like longer than your end breath. ‘Cause a signal to your body that you can calm down. But yeah, it’s on one hand observing, this is kind of a good data point that like I’m on the right track. That like all the things that I’m doing are necessary for me. It’s because this is a reminder, oh, I’ve got this flare up of anxiety. Then I start to like, try to figure out what it is. It’s like, well, I don’t know exactly what I don’t, I don’t feel like I have some amazing thing that I wanna bring to this episode. And you know, this is my episode, right? I’m supposed to be, you expect me, like, you’re not preparing anything. Am not prepared at all. This is my trip. I’m supposed to be bringing something to this. So that the first thing I point to is like, okay, I get in my own head about, well, I don’t feel prepared. Like this is one thing that really sets off anxiety for me is just not feeling like I’ve got this. Like you don’t have this. And that’s kind of a theme. I think for me that I realize over over many years, maybe over my entire life, it’s like, okay, yeah, this is a, this is a legitimate signal and symptom of anxiety that like, I just never labeled. So there’s that. And then I’m like when we leave here, we’re gonna go and meet up with Julian Smith. Well, that’s another teaser. I’m full of teaser today. We reconnected with our over and Julian. I don’t know if I, I guess he’s okay me teasing this, but like we’re shooting something with him. It’s his control, whether it, it sees the light of day, but I think I found myself being very keyed up about that. And I don’t know why it’s like this should be something that’s, it’s fun to reconnect. But I feel like, I mean, I feel like it’s very natural. Okay. Like I don’t know. I mean, I feel like the way that you’re talking to about it is I’m anxious about these things. And if I was normal, I wouldn’t be anxious about it. Like, I don’t have a diagnosable anxiety disorder, but I get anxious about stuff all the time that we’re about to do in the same way. And it I’ll be like, oh, and, and then, and I’ll be driving home and I’ll be like, what is it what’s going, why am I feeling this way? And then I’ll like, try to find, I’ll try to find it. I try to get to the root of and like, oh, we’re doing that thing. And yeah, I don’t feel prepared for it. And I bet you I’ll feel better when it’s over. And then if I’m right, I will. And then I actually start fantasizing about it being something that should be fun, being done and being over and being like, and then I’m gonna get home and I’m gonna eat dinner and I’m gonna watch TV. And that won’t be stressful. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess so I’m not, I’m not dismissing your anxiety. I’m just saying like it– No, this exactly. It doesn’t make you weird. I think it makes you normal. Yeah. I think this is exactly what I’m trying to figure out because I’ve been on completely on that side of on that perspective on the outside of, I’ll put it in the extreme and anxiety diagnosis and saying for myself, it’s like, yeah, I get stressed out. Stress is a natural response to having to step up. And when pressure hits you, stress is a good thing because it gets you ready. It’s human. Yeah. It’s not just a problem. Something that should be therapized or anesthetized away or however you wanna say it, away. So I’m like, yeah, of course I get stressed out, but then it’s like, okay. It gets to a level where you have heart palpitations sometimes, you know, they’ll come and go. But like, okay, that may be, that may have a, an impact on my health long term, you know? Yeah. And, but yeah, that’s how I’ve kind of, I’ve put it in this box of like, well, what you’ve just said, and now I’ve kind of switched over to the other side. It’s like, what if, yeah. What is normal and what is more of disordered level of dealing with anxiety? Well, I think my sort of slightly informed, but most nonprofessional opinion or perspective on the, like an anxiety disorder is when you have an anxiety disorder, a lot of times it will be, there’s a baseline of anxiety. And then you’ll kind of begin filling it with things that you could be anxious about. So it’s almost like the anxiety starts and then the event or the circumstances fill it versus a more normal response to is an event makes you become anxious about something. Now, obviously if you become anxious about it to a extreme degree that like affects your functioning and your health and that’s extreme, but it’s almost like people, people who are, you know, deal with depression, they wake up in the morning and they feel depressed. Not because they had a bad day or not, because they’re anticipating having a bad day, but there’s something in the chemical makeup of their brain that just be giving them the blues, giving them a feeling of depression. And then you start trying to connect it to like, is it for this? Or is it that? Ooh, no, it might just be a brain thing and there could be treatment for that. So do you, do, what your question is… What you’re describing is a bucket of that I need to, that I could fill with something to always have an object of my anxiety. ‘Cause you feel like your baseline anxiety has changed after being on this medication for three months. ‘Cause at this point it should have kicked in, right? Yeah. Yeah. It has, but I think what’s happened is, you know, I could add other things to the list. It’s like, okay Christy gave me a report about a conversation she had with my mom about Louis having another stroke. And then, I got a friend that I want to have a conversation with that the friend’s not is going through something that like, I haven’t been able to have that conversation. So there’s like this, some energy going out in that direction. And so there’s this cumulative effect of, okay, that then I wake up and I just feel like in a knot, you know? And so it’s, and honestly, I kind of thought because I’ve been experiencing some, the benefits of the medication and the therapy everything that at it was, it is a bit discouraging to find that like, okay, now that these things have piled on, it kind of feels like I’m back where I was at least yesterday and today. So it’s then you start to think about, well, does that mean, should I consider up in the medication? I’m still in that zone where I’m trying to dial that in. I think what I’m concluding, even in this conversation is that like, okay, let me see if this wave passes, if the baseline is still, and I’ll also talk to my doctor. And my therapist. Yeah, right. Your doctor can help you. So in terms of hashtag Ear Biscuits, I, you don’t have to give me advice on that front. Oh don’t worry, they will. But yeah, I’ll also, I have a follow up schedule with my doctor and I’m talking to my therapist tonight, but I’m just kind of sharing just, the what’s at work in assessing my anxiety and kind of getting comfortable with the fact that like, I am treating it and I am talking about it. Yeah. And I’m not talking about getting comfortable with talking about it publicly, just wrapping my mind around, in all conversations that like, Hey this is a part of what I’m dealing with. And I’m coming to grips with it. And I’m still developing a game plan. And I’m just observing and that I’m observing things more closely than I never did. So it’s like the more things that come up, it’s like, oh yeah, that’s been something that’s been true of me for my entire life. Now I’m seeing it through a different lens, of treatment and it is very helpful. And it’s, so I do feel very positive about it overall. All it’s just the past few days, it’s been more of a dip. And we are getting back into a more stressful schedule. I was thinking about this other night, there were there there’s like two weeks in a row where almost every night I had some commitment. Yeah. Now some of it was like fun stuff. Like, oh we’re going to a concert or we’ve got our date night scheduled, but other nights there were like some social engagement or, and I was just like, man, this is… The world opening back up is absolutely… So there’s that. A factor So there’s a little, there’s less of this little respite in the evening. It’s like getting home at 10:30, 11, 11:30. It’s a lifestyle shift. And realizing that this is what my life used to be like. And the other thing is, we’ve always had a lot going on, but there’s a lot of things getting to a stage where they’re taking more time. I mean… Or just feeling like what, with all these designers in the fire, which one’s gonna catch the oven admit when I’m not looking. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I’ve definitely been feeling that. I mean, that’s where I talk to my therapist about last week is just like, oh God, I’m beginning to feel like the, the pressure is increasing. And it’s been, as difficult as the pandemic was in many, many other ways, the one positive thing about it was there’s a little, it seemed like there was a little pressure in, in some ways there’s, there was less demands on our time and that’s kind of reversing. So I’m, I mean, I’m not surprised that you’re, that you’re feeling, that you’re feeling a little bit of a, that the anxiety is like. Getting a little prickly. You know what I think I need a little bit, I think I need a vacation. I think I need a spring break. Yeah. That is interesting thing. ‘Cause you just got back from the vacation. I do think that’s also a factor is like yesterday was my first day back. So it’s– Vacations tend to make anxious, because yep. You’re like, well, what did I fall behind on? I definitely felt, felt some of that. So yeah, I think, I’m gonna be in observation mode at least for another week coming out of this. And, but before I’m like making any decisions about changing my approach, ’cause I do feel very good and still mostly excited about and confirmed about being on the right tracks for what I’m doing here. But yeah, I wouldn’t, I’d love to go back to Park City. Let’s switch to that. I, but first let’s get some promo in for our Oh boy. Our boy Trevor’s Podcast. Trevor talks too much Mythical Kitchen, Trevor. He’s a, you know, he’s really good at making pastries. You know that like he’s. Good at making pastries. He’s good at making conversations. He’s, he’s good at making a lot of things, but he’s like got some like special high, high dollar training in that pastry area I think. We’re trying to be building up. He doesn’t do that on the podcast. That’s I’m trying to build up the podcast. But if you like the idea of somebody being really good at pastries and also really good at– Talking to somebody. Yeah, yeah. I mean the, the TLC that goes into a pastry perfect pastry is very similar to the TLC that goes into a perfect episode of a podcast. Okay. You know, you gotta, you gotta fold that croissant there’s there, you have many layers. He brings in guests that, for me that it’s, it’s bringing a fresh perspective into my world. Yeah. Through Trevor’s perspective, Mxmtoon. She’s an artist that I, when we pulled up her music video, it’s like, oh, she’s yeah, she’s got something. I like her style. So listen to that conversation, knowing you banks is a gamer, check out, check out that one. And the, to libe twins are coming on very soon. If not already. Yeah. He’s getting the mix, man. He’s getting the mix. Trevor toss too much. It’s a fun, listen, learn something. If you’re into these people that he’s having on there. Great. And if you’re not, you should expand your world. Oh yeah. If you’re an oldie like us and you want, feel it little bit less. Come out and say, yeah, of course. We’ve been to Park City, a number of times Park City’s known for being the venue for the Sundance Film Festival towards the top of every year. And so we found ourselves at the Sundance Film Festival in all like tertiary capacities. We were there with, we, we were making videos. Cadillac. With Cadillac. We were like interviewing celebrities. About Cadillacs. You can go back and on the rent Link channel, check that out. We went, we were guests of YouTube a couple of times. Like they, they had like, A lounge. A lounge. Yeah. So we did some Q and A’s and stuff like that and saw a few documentaries when we were there. But, and then we would like maybe ski for a few hours. And then sometimes we would see our friend Eric who, our high school friend who was one of the guitarists and the Wax Paper Dogz. So Eric’s lived there for like 20 years now. He’s like worked in and around the, the mountain resorts doing like high up technology stuff. But he started as, as a snow maker. So yeah, I got to reconnect with Eric, got to hang out with him. So I’m like, he was, you know, he, he definitely wanted to like say, oh, you should do this. You should go here. He was, he was like a, he was like a Sherpa. Oh, he was like ski patrol at some point, I think right? In the early days. He just told me he was a snow maker. And then he went into like the IT department. But he knows, he knows all the, he knows the mountains. The thing that I remember and I, I didn’t bring it up this time ’cause I just didn’t want to rehash the story with him again. But I’ll do it here. When we went to Sundance that one time and we went, we were, we had some drinks and I’m gonna say a combination of the altitude and not being acclimated to that and having a few too many drinks for that particular environment. I don’t remember this. I woke up the next morning. We’re like, before we leave town, we got Eric. We gotta meet you. We’re gonna meet you for breakfast. And he like, so we met up at this breakfast place and I have not been hungover often in my life. Okay. There was the one time in high school that I told the story. And then there was, I mean, there’s sometimes you like wake up with a headache, but like, like what I’ve never woken up and before my eyes are open, the, I could tell that the room is spinning. Except like a couple of times, like I, once you experience that once it takes me like 10, 15 years before I forget, apparently that I never wanna feel that again. And I think the time and worked out just right that like, oh my gosh, I woke up the room was spinning. Then I opened my eyes. I was like, yep. I don’t, am I gonna be able to get outta bed? It was bad. And I don’t remember this. Yes you do because I was wearing sunglasses and we were like, I was like, dude, I don’t feel good. And we got a, like an Uber to the breakfast place to meet Eric. And I didn’t tell Eric that I felt bad. I just wore my sunglasses the whole time. It was very bright. And we were like wearing these heavy coats ’cause it was like snowy outside. And then we go inside and it’s like baking hot. And the sun is baking through the window and shining right in my eyes, which- Well at least you got sunglasses on. At least gave me a reason to wear the sunglasses. And- You guys were also at Sundance, it makes you look like you’re somebody if you got sun glasses inside. I was sweating. Like doing that, like hangover sweat. And like we’re talking to Eric and we’re like catching up. And I was trying to like convey that I was so happy to see him, ’cause it had been a while. And then I just let the two of you do most of the talking while I just sat there and like I was looking at the menu, and I remember that the menu made me nauseous. And then Eric ordered one of those Egg Benedict things where it’s like, you poked the egg and it oozes out like- Yeah, like a properly made Eggs Benedict. Like something that like an EMT should be like working on at the back of an ambulance. Oh my gosh, It’s like, or like an eye surgeon or something. Yeah. You’ve just described the properly made eggs Benedict. And I remember looking at that and I was like, “I need to go to the restroom.” And I went to the bathroom. You remember this? I’m kind of… it’s beginning to piece together. And I was, I was about to vomit at the table, and then I’m like shimming to the bathroom, and I got to the bathroom, and I started, when I saw the toilet, I just started vomiting, you know? Before I got to the toilet. Why didn’t you feel like you could tell him that you were hungover? I don’t know. Because I was embarrassed. It’s so dumb. I think it was in that weird zone where it was like, it might have been a little holier than thou thing. I don’t think so though. There’s no way that could have been it. Was that the Cadillac year? Yes. I think it- That might have been it, Might have been, if it was back then. That might have been it. The first time we went to Sundance. Yeah, because that was like. 2008, 2009. Pre deconstruction, Pre deconstruction. And we were like trying to be these like, we wanted to keep up appearances. You can’t let ’em know you’re hungover, because God will be upset with you. I just think I was embarrassed. I don’t know how spiritual it was but, I had a lot of cleaning up to do in the bathroom. Oh God. Because, you know, I’m like taking all the paper towels and like trying to mop up the- So you missed the toilet? Yeah man, I missed the floor. I like hit the wall a little bit. Went out the window? Hit the wall. It’s like you ever been in the bathroom and you’re like, who exploded? How do you explode everywhere? Well, I understand. And I don’t, I still don’t know the answer to that for poop, ’cause I’ve seen that. I understand the vomit, but I don’t understand the diarrhea explosion in a bathroom man, Like, Like- I’m so curious, I would be willing to be there to see it happen. Like it’s a nastiest thing, but I’m just so curious. I’m like, what position were they in? So every time I get together, I mean, like I mopped everything up. ‘Cause I was not gonna leave that for the employees. But it took me a long time to come back out. And when I came back out, I think it was like, “Guys, I’m just, I’ve had a, I’ve had a rough time in the restroom, and I’m still having a rough time out here. I’m glad you’re finished with your, your bursted eyeball egg.” You’re poached eggs. So that’s what I think about every time I, I go back to Park City and especially when we see Eric but- Oh, you have like a Pavlovian vomit response to Eric? No, it’s no, no, it’s not that bad. Good, good, good. The main thing, I booked at Airbnb and I was like, every time since I think since we first got Jade, I was like, we’re gonna take this dog. We’re gonna fly with this dog. I’ve seen people do it. We’re gonna take Jade home with us. I love Jade, she’s a member of the family. I want her to be with me. But we never did it. Like it’s, you know, you go, you gets down to it. And you’re always like, It’s not worth it. It’s probably, tough on Jade. It’s like, she likes the, the kennel we take her to. it’s called a freaking pet resort, you know? They sleep on beds. It’s like, they got like webcams. You can see ’em at all times. Yeah. It’s pretty nice. It’s great. Barbara loves it. It’s ridiculous. And Barbara’s there. Usually at the same time. So we always talked ourselves out of it. But I was like, “Christy, now that you’re so attached to Jasper,” or at least that’s what I was thinking. Now that she’s so attached to Jasper. I’m like, this is a, this is, we’re gonna do it this time. Like we’ve taken road trips. Like when we went to Sedona, we took the cats, the dog and the cat, right when we got the cat, which was crazy. So it’s not that we haven’t gone on trips with the dogs. Like if we do that on like a beach trip or something. But they’ve never flown with us. So I’m like Park City. This is a very short flight. It’s like around an hour. It’s like, this is a good test. And plus me, Lincoln and Lando are gonna be skiing. Christy, You’re gonna be bad at the Airbnb, just chilling out, doing what you wanna do. This is what she… She was looking forward to that. But I was like, “Don’t you want your little furries with you? Your animals don’t you want your dogies?” And I was like, let’s do this. So she said yes. And it was really because she’s so attached to Jasper like, oh my gosh, it’s like, like a little baby to her. He does better at the, the kennel now though, right? I mean like, ‘Cause I picked him and J up. Right, and posted on your Instagram. I mean, and he did like have like a- He’s very clingy, but he’s gotten better. Like he had, he had separation anxiety. He didn’t seem super traumatized when I picked him up. Yeah, he’s lived with us for a year now. And he is so he’s, he’s doing so much better on that front. So that really wasn’t a factor. So, I mean, with Delta at least, you gotta go to a special counter, when you get there. And yet we had the, like the little carriers that are like Delta approved. So like, okay, if I buy this one, I know it will fit under the seat in front of me and, ’cause the last thing I wanted to be turned away ’cause my carrier was too big. So we got out all that squared away. We even the weeks leading up to it, I was like, all right, Christy, we’re gonna put the dogs in the kennel and we’re gonna walk ’em around. I think I’m gonna take ’em downtown, take ’em into town, not downtown LA, but like take ’em into town, like around the shops area and just like carry ’em in the carrier. Both of them? Both of ’em. Just to like get ’em acclimated to being carried in a carrier. Right. And because she laughed in my face, just like you did just now, I didn’t do that, but I didn’t think it was that weird, to carry two dogs in a carrier. I think you gotta get ’em used to it. In like a bustling little shopping area. Yeah, I was just like a man carrying two dogs. I mean, that guy’s going somewhere. Typically you would walk your dog in a shopping area. Not carry them in a carrier. Head in or head out? I didn’t do it, but around the house I would do it and I’d put their head in, yeah. And then we got there, and you gotta go to a special counter, ’cause you gotta pay a fee for this, it’s like $150 per dog, one way. That’s another passenger man. It’s actually a good deal. Man, it’s not real. It’s not another seat. Yeah, but it’s, I mean people’s dogs create issues for other people. You can’t, you had to discourage it a little bit. You gotta discourage it a little bit. You gotta put in a speed bump. People are willing to pay like for us, $600 round trip. You know every once in a while that dog’s gonna take a crap inside the kennel, people are gonna smell it and you gotta discourage it. You gotta discourage it. You’re right. So we get there to the curbside and I ask the guy, I was like, we have dogs, we’ve never traveled with dogs. I think we have to go to special county. He’s like, “Follow me. So he takes us around, a decent size line. And then he like, he skips the line, goes and talks to one of the agents, whispers and then points at us, and like stands us kind of to the side in front of the line. This is checking in? Checking in. And then the guy leaves and I’m like, I gave him a tip because the dude just like escorted us to skip the entire line. I was a little self-conscious about that. I’m really nervous about having these dogs, and then Jasper from within the crate thingy, the carrier sees another dog, and we’re standing in front of everybody, That’s trouble. And he barks twice, two barks. Really? Two barks. Just two? Just two. And then all of a sudden, I see from a long ways down, there’s like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven agents behind, and then way down there, this woman just starts huffing and puffing, down behind everybody. Maybe she’s a manager of some sort, comes all the way around, and goes up to Christy, ’cause Christy was holding Jasper’s carrier. He says, “Ma’am, if you don’t get your dog to start barking, you’re gonna have to take him out of here.” I’m like what? I’m like he barked twice, just two barks. And I’m like, what? This is an employee? Employee, I’m like, man, this is intense. I’m about to shell out the dough, come on. And you were thinking Jasper, did bark twice. He’d get a lot worse than this. And this was the main thing I was worried about. So then I like, I’m like crap. I was like, okay, we will, we’ll do what we can thinking, I don’t know what we’re gonna do. But then I took off my jacket, and I just draped it over the whole thing where he couldn’t see anything. Alligator mode. Yeah. And I thought he was, I thought that would just make him freak out more. But it actually didn’t, it worked. I don’t know. I would not have predicted it would’ve worked or, or that I would done that to start with. But yeah, that definitely worked. And then we take him through security. I’m having to google like all this stuff, like, you put the dog through the thing, if you do, does it fry him? You don’t wanna put him- What does it smell like. when you cook a dog in a- Well, it wouldn’t cook him, but the effects would show up later. Delayed, delayed. It’s an x-ray. Yeah. I mean, dogs get X-rayed all the time. Not at that level. Yeah. I took the dog out of the carrier, held Jade in my arms and Jasper and Chrissy’s arms, and we walk ’em through and then put ’em back in the carrier. By that point, They do a cavity search of either of the dogs? No. Good. Not of me either. Okay. It’s a little disappointing, I’m still waiting for that. Well, you gotta store something up your butt hole. They ended up doing really well on the flight. The vet had given Christy a sedative for the dogs, which- The vet given Christy a sedative. So she was okay. Christy has her own version of a sedative, ’cause she has, a pronounced fear of flying. Did the dogs help create a distraction for her that made her less focused on her own- Not on the first flight because we were so keyed up about what’s, everything was new and we were worried about all of the logistics that I’m telling you about. So it was like, we were pretty on edge for that reason. but we get him on the plane, We put him underneath the seat in front, and then they’re, they did great. By the time we got off the plane, we were like, unzip in the top and walking down the baggage clinging. Like their heads are sticking out, and it’s like, all of a sudden this is feeling, we’re feeling like those people. So they didn’t bark at all on the plane? They did not bark at all on the plane. After we took off, I asked the woman next to me. Well I’ll tell that story in a second. After we took off, they eventually got up and got in our laps. I mean they’re little cat dogs. They just want to be in our laps. And once they’re in our laps, they’re like they just sleep. Jasper looked out the window a little bit, but like, not a peep out of ’em. They did… They were like docile. The sedative had an effect on Jasper. He was really sleepy, but it really didn’t have an effect on Jake. She didn’t, she didn’t sleep any. And I was also concerned about them using the bathroom, but like, we made sure they went right before we left the house, and then they didn’t… There’s like pet pee and poop areas designated in airport terminals. Oh, but not on the plane. No, not on the plane. In the terminals, but we didn’t want to take ’em in there and they were fine. They didn’t have to use the bathroom until we got to where we were going. But what about, Short flight though. A cross country flight? ‘Cause I’m thinking about doing this with Barbara. You have to look into it. I think cross country flight, you can do it I’ve seen dogs. But if you’re flying to Hawaii, I think I read that you have to put the dogs, you have to check the dogs, which is not something I would want to do. They have to go in the luggage thing? I don’t know exactly where they go. They can’t go in the luggage thing. It’s that gets too cold. It’s not pressure regulated. They go, they, I don’t know exactly where they go. I don’t wanna find out. And I don’t wanna put my dogs in there. I just wouldn’t take ’em. There’s the emotional support route, which I’ll get to that in a second. But, I mean, pulling out the… No one ever wanted to pull out the dogs on the return flight. I turned to the woman next to me, when we first sat down because I was like, “How are you with dogs?” ‘Cause you don’t want to freak somebody out. Which is what I think that the manager who is freaking, out was like, “You gotta do something about your dog barking.” because some people freak out. Some people are afraid of dogs. And it’s like, well you gotta, the people take precedent over the dogs. If you can’t control your dog, then hey you- You’re gonna lose customers. You, gonna lose customers. So I was trying to be sensitive to this passenger who was sitting next to me on the flight. She was like, “Oh I love dogs.” So then we pulled out our dogs a little bit later and she was happy. And then she pulls out her phone and she shows us a picture of her dog. But it’s a selfie of her with her dog. I’m like, “Oh you got a cute dog.” You are a dog person. When I looked at the picture, it was a bit strange because, the woman, the picture she showed me it, she had applied that face, filter to her face, and I just don’t get it. Like a face tune. Yeah. Like a face tune where it’s like, it makes your face like, it looks like really smooth. Like you have on makeup. Right. I mean she had on some makeup, in real life and like I’m sitting right next to her, but it’s like, that is not, I can tell it’s you, but it’s not you. It’s like the emoji version of you. It’s like, this is obviously a fake you. You’ve put a filter on yourself. It just, I don’t know. The whole thing is just strange to me. Yeah, a lot of people do it. Of course I see all the people on TikTok that are like, “This is not my face.” “This is not my face.” Yeah, but they’re at least drawing attention to it. Yeah, at least they’re drawing attention to it. But it gets stranger, when a stranger is showing you this picture. Usually you see this person like on Facebook. Right, and there’s- Not on a plane showing you the picture. And the phone’s not right next to their face. Right, that’s the issue. What made it even weirder was again, the whole point is that the dog’s in the selfie too, and the face filter was applied to the dog too. Did you know that could happen? The dog’s face was like, Super smooth? Altered, that the only thing I can- like a puppy? No the only thing I could really tell was that, the left eye of the dog, it was like a Chihuahua. The left eye of this Chihuahua, was like darkened and bigger. It was like the shadow on the left side of the dog’s face was interpreted by the filter as part of the dog’s eye. So the left eye of the dog was like twice as wide, as the right eye of the dog. And this woman thought that was cute? I think, I don’t know why she showed me that. Are you Sure It just wasn’t a big-eyed Chihuahua? Well, I didn’t wanna ask at that point, because then I’d be like, “And is that what your face normally looks like?” ‘Cause I think that’s a special breed. I think I saw that one. Big left-eyed Chihuahua. Yeah, yeah. That’s specific, yeah. It’s a little asymmetrical. The face smoothing didn’t know what to do with that dog’s eye. You think she hasn’t looked at the dog? She’s showing you picture of her dog. Yeah. I just think that people are kind of blind to like how strange the filter, like, it’s like you can’t see how obvious it is. But if you’re looking at your… I’m gonna find a picture of my dog to show to strangers when they ask, “Oh, that’s a cute one.” You’re looking at the dog, this is weird. It’s so weird. But to me- I think maybe you were actually the victim of an internet prank video and you didn’t respond. No, she was being sincere. It was, to me, it just highlights the, the problem, like the, just how these face filters have just fooled people. Like, Well, they haven’t fooled many people. No, but the people who use them think they’re fooling people. And I’m not talking about the ones that are like, “This is not my face.” Some of them are real crazy. That it’s amazing how much with nothing to compare it to you’re like, oh, that person’s gone through like a, makeup makeover. It’s like very extreme and modelish. But it is realistic, like, the technology’s getting amazing. But the one that people normally use, like for the past year or two, on I guess, Facebook or whatever, Instagram, it’s very obvious that you’re applying this filter, to everybody except the person who’s applying the filter. Yeah, I think you lose perspective on it. You lose perspective on it. And it’s a problem. It’s I mean- What are you gonna do about it? I think it’s gonna become my thing, Like a crusade against face filters. I mean, obviously it’s like, it just seems dysfunctional, right? Yeah, well, you know, it is a- And if you fool to the point where you’re putting a dog in it. I wonder if the idea is, okay, so obviously we all do some sort of altering of our face or whatever. Like when we shoot things on video, we, just, so we’re not a couple of shining boys. We put some make-up on, I’ll put in some eyedrops because I have perpetually bloodshot eyes and everyone’s like, he’s always high. And I’m like, no, I just have bloodshot eyes and I have to put in. So I do some artificial things to my face, to make myself more presentable, right? Yeah, yeah. You’re saying you’re on a slippery slope to face filter? No I’m saying and culturally, Yeah. And traditionally women are more apt to do more things to their face, with makeup than men are. That’s changing a little bit, but like that is sort of, you know, the norm in the past. And then it’s, and you know when somebody’s got makeup on, like, so if somebody shows up and they’ve got makeup on, that like it’s decorative in some way, it’s like, “Oh, there’s a different color over this person’s eyes.” We’ve kind of accepted that. Maybe the people who are doing face filters are like, I’m not trying to fool you. I know that it’s obvious that I have a face filter, but this is the face that I want to show you. This is the face of my little dog, that I wanna show you. I want the big eye thing, ’cause I think that’s cute. It’s a leap from wearing makeup to face filters. I agree. Actually, I don’t believe that’s what’s happening. I think what’s happening is, people lose perspective. I think, what you’re doing here and I really appreciate it, it’s because we don’t have a strong point of view. I’m just trying to figure it out, is that, we know we’re gonna get some sort of comment that has, it presents a different perspective. That’s that might have to lead to an apology. That’s the world we live in on our podcast in on the internet. Right? I don’t wanna offend anybody who uses a face filter, but at the same time I, and so when I say something like, is this a sign of dysfunction? It’s like, okay, is that a line that I can’t cross conversationally because someone’s gonna come out of the woodwork and say, well, have you thought about it this way? And it’s like, okay. Yeah. Obviously people have a right to put on a face filter. I just don’t understand it. And I’m not saying it’s dysfunction, I’m asking a question. Now I’m being so defensive. Well, I mean, what I see when I see it, so, I don’t get it though. And, you know, it happens. It’s like, and again, I don’t go on Facebook, and my wife doesn’t go on Facebook, because, you know, in many ways, Well, there’s Instagram too though? Yeah, I know, but I feel like, Facebook is the place where you just, I feel like it’s more prominent there because Facebook and the people who use Facebook maybe, instead of Instagram, right? Which is a certain genre, or a certain sort of generation, even. I think that- I think people on Facebook are more likely to not realize that it’s obvious they’re using a face filter. People who use Facebook as their primary social media are less technically savvy than people who don’t, that’s a generalization that I’m willing to make, right? You made it. And I think that it’s just like, it’s like when your mom goes on Facebook, and sends a message to you, like “Call me immediately.” But she makes it her like status update, you know, like that kind of stuff happens all the time. “Brian call me immediately.” And it’s just like, her best friend has liked it. “Yes Brian do that.” That mom is, or dad, I’m not trying to say it’s women. I’m saying moms and dads, and parents of all kinds, are probably more likely to use a face filter in a way that they did not. They lost perspective at some place along the way. And so when I see it, I don’t- ‘Cause it’s different than getting plastic surgery. You’re talking about makeup, but then you got okay, if you got lip amplification or I don’t know, you’ve got the high, you’ve got the cheek implants, whatever you got, I don’t know. I don’t care. It’s fine you know, it’s, I do feel like this is different because it’s like, I don’t know. It’s a different thing. I like if I couldn’t grow a beard, I would consider getting a chin implant. But you wouldn’t consider- I’m just honest being honest with you. Applying a beard filter to all of your pictures. No, but I grow a beard as a filter. What? My beard is a filter. I mean, it’s natural, It grows naturally, so I guess cutting it would be going against nature, but I’m just saying that like- But you wouldn’t walk around. Well, I mean like a beard toupée, does that exist by the way? I’m sure, if it can be conceptualized, it can be invented and as- Yeah, sure, people have beard toupées, beardpees. I’m saying, I agree with you. When I see somebody who’s done a face filter, I think this person has identity issues. That’s what I think that’s my knee jerk reaction. But then I, when I’ve turned that lens back on myself, I’m like, well, you identity issues as well. Sure. But you’re just being a little bit more savvy in the way that you’re addressing them. I, I mean, you might have more, more self consciousness than someone who’s willing to use a face filter. It’s like, “Hey, I wanna share this picture, but I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna put on makeup to take a picture. I’m just gonna put this face filter on, and then I’m gonna post that picture. It’s like, so what, who cares? To me it comes down to do you know that people know it’s a face filter? It’s like, do you know that people know? Are you okay with people knowing that this is a face filter? Are you okay with people knowing you were wearing makeup? Are you okay? I think most people who use it don know that- That you have plastic surgery. I think it’s maybe that’s what I’m addressing. Well, I saw one where it was the whole, they had done the whole family. Because the thing that happened, sometimes is, was. Was there a dog in the photo, cause it’ll get wonky. The thing is sometimes is one person who is the person’s account It is, they’ve done the face tune filter to just themselves. So let’s just say it’s a person in the family and, and the other, the spouse and the kids don’t have it done. Then it’s especially evident. Oh, you can do that. You can just circle one face. You can select one face. But then one time I saw a family where I guess in an effort to disguise, they had done everyone, including the children. I was like this fan is a family of angels. This is great. Yeah. It’s just, I mean, and then, you know, I mean, if that’s a teenager, boo you Turn that down. Talk about… Brian Call me immediately, Brian. I can’t take this photo down, I don’t know how to do it. Oh man, this should have been the whole episode, ’cause I feel like we’re really getting into something important. Yeah, you hadn’t even talked about your damn trip yet. I’ve talked about the most important part, flying there with my dogs. What about skiing man? Face filtering the dogs. I guess we can come back. Let us know what you think about face filters. That’s what we do need to hashtag EarBiscuits about. Okay? We can do a follow up on this. We can do an entire expose. Or maybe we’ll just start applying to face filter to our face. I finally got to Park City. The dogs were there. It was, let me finish the dog part. I think that it was- All right. That’s really what I wanted to talk about the most anyway, apparently. We were very glad that we brought the dogs. We had this like collapsible kennel that would keep both the dogs that like I could carry in my suitcase. So when we left the house, they didn’t just like potentially pee or poop anywhere. We also had to pay a fee at the Airbnb for the dog, but still, it was not as much as the keeping ’em in the kennel, in the pet resort. Really self-conscious about saying that I take my dogs to the pet resort, but I’m also very proud of it. So that was a good choice. On the way back, we were much more at ease, knowing the effect that the, the sedative would have on Jasper, and like covering the crate. Like we started to get things down, to the point where Christy was talking about, we’re walking in the airport on the way back, the dog’s heads are sticking out and people are like, look pointing and whispering to other people about the cuteness of our dogs, and Christy and I are looking at each other, and like, just talking about how, where are those people that we’ve always been jealous of at the airport? Really? Yes, because they have their dogs and we don’t have our dogs. And here we are being, we have our dogs. So is it about the dogs or about you? Oh, it’s definitely about the dogs are for me. And again, that, that gets to the, the emotional support of the dog clicking into place. It was like, Christy experienced it firsthand with like her fear of flying. I was like is having Jasper helping? You know, petting a dog releases endorphins. Yeah, And then having somebody that you’re caring for- What about petting a dolphin? Yeah, emotional support dog. Ain’t nowhere it releases in dolphins. That’s not how baby dolphins are made. Sorry. Releasing in dolphins. I mean, that might work on a t-shirt but you’re in dad joke territory here-. Should I go tweet that? No. Emotional support, no, ’cause you don’t wanna tweet about emotional support stuff and. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I would, I would find a different way in. We’ve dug too much of a hole of talking about like women wear makeup today. Right. And men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all people. Damn. whatever. Okay. So yeah. I’m like, I think we’ve backed into a legitimate case for Jasper becoming an emotional support dog. And then I don’t think I have to pay to $150 each way. And I don’t think I have to put ’em in a kennel. But I mean, she’s got a fair fight. But you had to give him a little jacket vest. And that’s great. Right? Yeah. But I, I didn’t wanna be that person. You can get an emotional support certification for probably, and for squirrly reasons, I’ve been told. But I didn’t want to do that. Yeah, ‘Cause no one’s gonna like say no all along. I did not wanna abuse that system, but now I find that like. But it might be legitimate. Christy might be a legitimate candidate and then it’s like, we might need to grandfather, me and Jaden. Question. It definitely helped her. And, it helped me too. Like, I would take Jade everywhere if I could, she should be here right now. But the circumstances of this trip led themselves to them not being an inconvenience, but like, let’s just say you decided, Hey, family to trip to France. I don’t, yeah. Especially when you don’t have a home base that you’re, that someone is there most of the time, like everything kind of lined up. So it’s still a trip to trip. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. But I was making the argument when we go back home, and we stay in an Airbnb, we can take the dogs to visit our family. And I think they’ll be fine. So I’m lobbying for that to be the next thing. Yeah, yeah. For Christmas, we’re bringing the dogs home. Our plan is to take Barbara, ’cause we’re going to North Carolina in the summer, and we’ll be staying at the place, you know, the place that we bought there, and, For maybe longer than a week? It might be two. But the plan is to take Barbara for that trip. I think Barbara will do fine on the plane. The only thing that’s gonna be a problem is, she likes people and food so much that. She may start whining The vet, the vet can give her the sedative, and they said, we could give Jasper another one, if he can needed it. But other than that, if I did not have a home base. No. It’s just such an inconvenience. And Barbara loves going to the pet resort is what she tells me every time she gets back. I’m sure she does. You can look on the web camera. I really bonded with those bitches this time, Yeah. A few of ’em use the face filter. Yeah, right. I don’t know about those. I don’t know about those ones with identity issues but, Okay, the Park City skiing it of it all. I, you know, I didn’t have it. There’s not any like huge thing I wanted to tell you about, but how. Hard did you go? And you skied instead of snowboarded. I skied, we went park city and canyon resorts are now combined to be like super large. I think was the largest ski resort in the lower 48. We also went to a third. Or all resort. Called deer valley, which was just like another seven minute beyond. We, I, we had never skied deer valley. I don’t think no snowboarders are allowed there. The thing about river valley and park city canyons, not so much was that if you wanna ride greens, I guess I’m not snowboarding. So I won’t say ride ski greens, which Lincoln. And I could do some blues, but we’re still getting our bearing with skiing. And Lando is not ready for blue lose. Now, after being there for three days or before. Even now, you know, it’s talk about anxiety. Like the mixture of bringing anxiety to the slopes is like, is a big test. And of course, you know, he, he deals with anxiety too. So does Lily and like Lily learn how to ski, but then she was like, it just, it makes me real, really anxious to like be going down a mountain on these like flat wooden things. You know, it’s like species. And wooden skis. Well, that’s a problem. Welcome. I guess they’re. Not to the nineties. They’re not wooden. Okay. My Popeye had wooden water skis. That’s what I was thinking about. The ones that are hanging up on the GM set. Yeah. But Lando, when we eased him into it, he did really well. And it was so it was just test of anxiety of like, okay, being in a comfort zone, you know, if you, so no, I did not push myself. I made a decision. It’s like, I wanna enjoy myself in, you know, I don’t wanna hurt myself. That’s the only thing I’m think about most. Of the time. It’s like the thing about the greens there, unlike definitely big bear, even mammoth is that like, you got like the lower part where you got the greens and then you keep going up the mountain and it gets like, it gets more complex and like black diamond as you go H higher elevation. Well, that’s not really the case at park city. There are way you can go all the way to the top. And definitely at deer valley, you can go all the way to the top and then ski greens all the way down. So it’s like, you can do these like really long runs. And I was able to take Lando all the way up there and really enjoy it just to like, kinda take our time, do some, do some carving. It was warm too. It was nice. I mean, so the snow wasn’t great, but we don’t care. I it’s like I’ll drink any red wine. You know, I’ll ski any slope, especially if like. If it’s not don’t combine those. If it’s not absolutely frigid. Yeah. I’m not drinking drinking wine, but on, on the slope. But we had, so we had a really good experience. Le didn’t have the endurance or the, just the appetite to stay as long as land Lincoln. And I so like Lincoln and I could do some more blues when he wasn’t around. There’s just so many places to explore. And when I, I gotta say, if you’re on skis and you go to a place that doesn’t allow snowboarders, it that’s a, that’s not gonna happen much longer. It’s just economically, there’s no way they’re gonna keep outlying snowboarding at, at deer valley. There’s too many grandkids that the grandparents want ’em to go skiing. If. They’ve gotten until 20, 22, without allowing. Eric was even saying, there’s no way this will continue. Well, they’re holding. Out, they’re holding out big time. But it, it is a entirely different experience because snowboarders are they’re punks. They’re punks. They’re, they’re teenagers, low they’re 20 somethings. And they they’re knuckled dragon. And they’re like boot and they’re like taking up space and they got this big blind spot and they’re tearing up the slopes and like I’m becoming Hoy toy about it, but I’ll tell you, I mean, it definitely feels different ’cause it was a different crowd. It’s an, it’s an older crowd. It’s a more docile crowd. It’s a less stinky crowd, but I will go back to snowboarding. I was like, Lincoln, you gotta learn a snowboard too. And I, I can definitely get back on there. I, I, I don’t know what my pelvis will do. Yeah. I think I ultimately had more fun snowboarding, but I just don’t think I can do it. I, I think that the, the stress on the back is just too much. I mean, that’s why I. Switched. Yeah. But the stress on the knees. And I to ligament in my scheme. So there you go. It’s like, it can still, it, you can make an argument that snowboarding is, is safer. I’d safer. I’d rather sacrifice the knees than the back though. Okay. See, I think I got into skiing because you started scaring me about that. But like, I actually don’t know if for me, snowboarding may be a better choice, but I wanna be able to go both ways, you know? Okay. You hear me? The air being and be, we stayed at every morning when we woke up, I, it was like this, this, like all the windows were like two stories of windows, like facing the ski slopes across the valley at night. I could, I would sit there at the windows and see, of course the, the slopes close at like four o’clock. But like at midnight you can see the groomers, like those big snow cats coming down, like they got their headlights on and it looks like falling stars just like traversing the slopes. And it was a full moon. It was a be, it was a beautiful, beautiful night. And then the next morning I get up and in our backyard, there’s a herd of elk grazing. Oh really? Elk. I herd of freaking. Elk, never seen an elk in person. Grazing right there. And they came in elk. They came back every morning. The first morning the dogs were going ballistic. And, and I was like. What? There’s some, there’s. Some fluffy deer out there. And Christy’s like, I don’t think that’s a deer. Well, I was like, well. They, they like the size of horses. Yeah. Cause they’re very big. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then Christy’s like, I, I was like, well, I, you know what? I think it’s an elk. She looked it up. You’re enough re it was elk sitting right out there. Just grazing, taking little, little dumps at the edge of my backyard that then the dogs would go out there and investigate afterwards. And Jasper would probably try to get. I did not let the dogs out while the elk were there. I didn’t know what would happen. Get kicked in the face or something like that. I doubt it. They probably would run. So the final highlight, one night we Christy booked. She was like, we’re going to the Viking year. I was like, what. A year is like, what is that like a big tent? She’s like, yeah. I was like. She’s like, it’s on the top of a mountain and you’re gonna ride in a Leigh to get there. So it’s like, we show up and there’s this one of those snow cats, you know, that like pulls the stuff that grooms the mountain, like with the treads and stuff that can go straight up the mountain. It was pulling this like sled type thing that would hold 20 people. And so like all the of us. And what. City was this in? This is in park city. This was in park city. This is on the park city slope. Oh, okay. ‘Cause they have a thing like this. Like you go to the resort, it’s a restaurant. Yeah. It’s a restaurant. So you, so you get on the sleigh, pulled by the snowcap and you go up the mountain. Christy who wasn’t skiing the slopes. We’re like telling her, oh, we were ski in the slope. We, we were like, we were here today and just like, so she gotta experience the slopes, even though she didn’t wanna ski. And we go up there again, it was a full moon. By the time we get up there to this like tent that will hold like individual tables enough for like 20 people. So pretty small. And it was six course meal. I was like, man, I’m not used to sitting down eating a, a six course of meal. I’m not used to eating for two hours. I’m not French. Yeah. It was awesome though. And we get up there to the top and it turns out we had skied all around that thing. We didn’t even notice that there was a year right there. Was it a Viking? It was Viking themed. We wore Viking helmets for some photo ops. Yeah. Did. It’s was it like eating with your hands or was it like mini? He. Didn’t go that far. No, we still spoke English and the, the no one was no one was killed and no one was making love in the year in front of everybody. And nobody there weren’t people. Like, that’s what I think about. Like I watched the show Vikings and that’s that’s the thing I remember is that they were making love in the, under the bare skins in front of everybody. Right. But were there people like who? No. Looked like Viking serving and stuff. No. Did I get. A job there? No, they were. They served us some grog, which was like a spiced. I don’t know. WASL Okay. Some sort of a was drink. I would call it, they call it grog. They kind of frown when I said, oh you is this, this tastes like ale. Hmm. And then they spiked it and we had a good night. Came back down. Take the lay down. Took the sleigh back down. Hold. On. When you take the lay down there, is it not being pulled anymore? It’s just, just free. Fall. It’s let you go on the, on the way up, man. There were all these groups of like, like Utah. He people with skis going up the mountain. To get to the year. No, just like, this is what they do on a Thursday night. Cross country skiing. Well, it turns out it’s not cross country. It’s uphill skiing. They were going up the hill. I was like, how does this happen? I had to ask Eric. He was like, oh, it’s called skiing. And then he out and he got, he was like, here are my skins. It’s like, fill of it. You put your, you put this skin over your ski. And then if you rub it one way, he’s like, you know, those pillows you rub and it’s smooth one way and you rub it the other way and it’s like. Dark, you push it forward. It grabs a slope and you can go. Yeah. It’s fabric. And it’s called skin. Maybe. You gotta make sure put those on the right way. My guess is that they would like put elk skin on there back in the day. And if you rub the, the hairs, if you go against the grain, you can climb up the mountain. So there’s people like. Only rubbing elk one way. So. Uphill Al Alpine touring or skin. And. They probably disconnect their heel and. The heel is disconnect. And then you can, once you hike up, then you turn around, you get to the top, you take your, your skins off and you readjust your boots and you ski back down. I mean, I’m, that seems pretty cool. It’s another thing. So then you got, yeah, it’s a workout. Like I, I really like park city, man. I really like it. I, I, I think I’m gonna be going back. I mean, in the summertime there’s mountain biking that, you know, everything converts to being still an outdoor play place for mountain biking. Eric’s definitely trying to talk, talk me into like getting a place in park city. I’m like, well let’s not get ahead of ourselves. On mountain bike. Yeah. Yeah. So I don’t know positive report on park city, man. I’m glad you didn’t get hurt. I didn’t get hurt. So that’s you gotta, you got, I mean you gotta push it a little harder. No, you gotta get a Ralph in your life that takes you to at the top of the mountains and just Nope. Throws you into a blizzard and then you have to beg the person to let you go back down the lifts that turns you into a man. Not if you go back down on the lift. Well, they didn’t let me. If you had to do it again, would you have gone down the lift? Well, I, no, I don’t have to do it again. I’m glad I didn’t go down the lift if. Time traveled back to that moment where you decided to not go back on the no, cause it turned you have gone down the lift. No, it. Turns out, ended up being fine. I thought that’s when you hurt your. Knee. No, no. I hurt my knee on a green. Oh. Yeah. You can. Have it doesn’t matter. The, the color of the, the, the slope doesn’t indicate the. Is it my right today. Necessarily. Rec baby rec baby 1, 2, 3, 4. I’ll wrap it up with found another music podcast. You know, I’m into classic hiphop music podcast. More of them are coming out of the woodwork. It’s like, it’s, it’s kind of like the, the founding fathers of hiphop are coming into grips with the fact that like, Hey, we’re still here and we’re, we’re, we’re holding the, we’re holding the mantle for what we’ve built and for, for what’s blown up to what it is today and strengthening the ties between early hip hop and what it’s become today. And so that they can be appreciated. And in some ways, if still relevant, I think the perfect example of that, if you’re into what I’m saying is the bridge 50 years of hip hop is hosted by NAS and MIS info. Lots of good episodes that I’ve enjoyed. Ice hug, DJ jazzy, Jeff, Reverend Ron from Ron DMC listened to Cypress hill. Recently. These are all like throwback episodes. There’s some, he also interviews core day. So he is got some, he’s got some new, but NAS, you know, he’s, he’s hip hop legend, so he can get people to come on his show that won’t do any other podcasts like Chuck D. And so it’s, if you’re into that, like I am, it’s really cool. And if you’re not, you wouldn’t like it. The bridge, this is Spotify original. So it’s only on Spotify, I guess, have at it. And we’ll see you next week. Oh, you. You weren’t ready To watch more ear biscuits, click on the playlist on the right. To watch the previous episode of your biscuits, click on the playlist to the left. 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