[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m link and I’m Rhett this week at the round table of dim lighting we have the one and only Lindsey Stirling she’s one of this generations most recognized classical crossover musicians Lindsey’s got almost 5 million subscribers and over 600 million views on her YouTube channel she also just released her new album Shatter Me which debuted at number one on iTunes overall number two on Billboard’s Top 200 overall number one on Billboard’s independent albums classical crossover albums and dance/electronic albums this girl it’s a lot of categories she’s bringing it I mean I was super excited to talk to her she performed at the YouTube space opening you know that event we were there you know I was super bummed that I didn’t get a meter that night she was she was playing her violin and dancing like right over there I was I could go talk to her right now but it’s in the middle of her performance that would’ve been awkward and that would it was like what that’s link busting up Lindsey’s performance this is a much better setting you know she didn’t you know she never bring her instrument for this conversation we know that simplifies things it definitely simplifies things because I mean when this girl’s playing the violin she’s not just playing the violin she’s she’s moving her she’s moving she’s dancing I mean I you could really have to watch one of her music videos if you don’t know what she does to get a full appreciation or go to our live show right she’s combining and you know this classical music this the violin with all these different genres of music hip hop pop rock dubstep and now she’s moving into electronica and she’s got this completely original sound but also a completely original presentation of that yeah I mean all of her videos look amazing but it’s because what she does is amazing her original song dubstep track crystallize we’ll play a clip of that it was the eighth most watched video on YouTube in 2012 it currently has over 94 million [Music] and the music video for the title track of her new album Shatter Me features Lizzy Hale on vocals [Music] [Music] so she started her tour we you know she was able to come by at the last second before she hits the road we’re very glad that she was able to spend some time with us so that we could get to know her we cover a lot of good things in this conversation I mean dealing with the harsh rejection that Piers Morgan dealt to her on live television I was interested to talk about that as well as the recent critical reviews in the New York Times yeah and we also talked about how her YouTube career got off the ground at the same time how a certain other popular youtuber was a part of that and also a part of her romantic life hmm we also talked about the personal ramifications of being included I’m a mormon marketing campaign and how her struggle with anorexia played a major role in the development of her new album so yeah we get to all these things yeah this is where biscuit yeah yeah what would you expect people here it is our ear biscuit with Lindsey Stirling [Music] now we can talk about it it’s not the al city thing is that secret no the tracks out so Ben release music video yeah but you mean we can chat about it okay what kind of details can we get what kind of BTS so you but you Kate you came here straight from shooting the owl city music video what song is it what’s it called it’s called beautiful times yep it’s pretty awesome it’s his new single for his is EP and it’s a it’s really happy-go-lucky and fun feeling and which is perfect for Lindsey Stirling music I like it what he usually keeps it dark so that’s like a switch really went for something new yeah it’s very my luck didn’t Lincoln to lock my son really got into al City a couple years ago and it was like that we did our city was a salt always playing and you always felt like you were like we kind of walk the dream you okay I’m ray I’m you know I’m ready to do something positive it’s like the soundtrack to anti-depression exactly like an antidepressant I think so that’s what obviously music is and you know it was funny they had me sitting like I have never sat through a whole music video but they had me I was like I’m kind of a how’d you do that dancing violinist this is difficult and so but they wanted me to sit so i sat there the whole time and I was you know that music makes you want to skip in general and at least like kicking your legs out or something right tap my toes and the feet started to go crazy and yeah but you you like turn to the director you’re like you know what I do right I know and then it was funny at the end at the very end they were like okay now we want you to stand up and they ask me like can you like can you walk and play at the same time I was like I like to dance and junk they walk and you play really that’s probably never going to ask you slightly offended but a little bit more than that to I know this may be a crazy request but can you walk and play yeah it was like that’s how you said it I thought that was kind of and so you shot that here in Burbank so you didn’t have to go to New Zealand or Africa or any other exotic icefield location now for this one we actually shot it it looks like I’m sitting in cloud so it’s even better than okay going to New Zealand it’s like I’m up in the heaven yeah I mean I’m kind of like in heaven okay have you thought about doing a just kind of hitting me now as you talk about having to to sit during the video this could be we’re always trying to come up with different ideas for us to do like new and but you’ve got something on your face right there you want to get off your left eye like is there air it is kind of distracting you yeah I’m sure Lindsey did you see it and you didn’t want to say anything you know you never want to it’s like the booger in summer no I think it’s it was a cheek booger maybe it was an eye booger travel cheek boogers Wow it’s a migrating I Booker all right well I could show you a visual right now everyone’s jealous were you looking at it actually I wasn’t a ok let’s get what maybe she was blocked by that part of the Mike Mike what were you saying was the fact that we envision ourselves as guys who might one day have like a a workouts system like a workout DVD we experimented with two guys two weights this is two guys the egrets being a weight it’s kind of a long story I don’t think any of these things are gonna pan out but I can definitely see like a whole workout series for people in the orchestra you know what I’ve thought about doing it more of a parody idea for like my second channel how fun that would be to do like a fight cuz violinist I was you know classically trained violinist and orchestras for years and we get kind of a bad rap of being out of shape and feels like I should do like I had thought life sitting in aluminum chairs and very serious expressions it looks like we never had fun in our lives have you seen like surely there’s been you know like high school orchestras out there who have been like inspired and they’re like oh this is a Lindsey Stirling joint right here and all of a sudden that you know they’re like playing for their parents and next thing another get I’ve been doing some choreographed dance that’s happening right I sure hope so I have not seen it come on if that’s happened and somewhere out there we need to see that I want to see it I’ve seen individuals do it but holy cow like a whole workers crew did it it don’t happen thanks to you but right just to go back a second you guys don’t you still like in my burger I don’t want to go back that far to go back to your eye booger no to go back to the thing after that you were suggesting that Lindsey start a workout DVD that’s that’s just short of asking her hey Lindsey have you ever thought about playing kids birthday parties were you crazy that’s where the real moneys at man you ever heard of Billy Blanks yeah Richard Simmons I just yeah you’re not doing it so now you’re sorry you’re on the level we know blanks in Richardson yes hit me that the hip-hop thing and then you know and Michelle Obama wants she’s doing the gig what is it get up and move campaign or whatever with all the kids I mean you could be like the white spokesperson I’m sorry if we’ve offended you no offence we have not offended her I can just say it right now I appreciate your sensitivity to this this subject though that’s very kind of what I mean seriously do people want people I imagine people want to be able to describe what you do and encapsulate it to to boil it down to just a couple of adjectives or just throw a couple of things well this is what this is who Lindsey Stirling is this is what she does right and you know it’s funny recently and I just released my new album and there was this fight on iTunes of them wanting to put it in different categories and you know and we had to really fight just let it stay I was like I want to be on the electronic charts like I feel like I’m electronic artists but the classical charts wanted it and the pop charts were like no she belongs over here and it’s just funny no one knows how to classify it different somebody at the charts was like asking your yes there’s I didn’t know this there’s editors of every page and they continue only get one you only get one category on iTunes for your album to be in the charts yes on Billboard you can like have to like classical and okay dance but I’m on iTunes there’s only one place where it gets to sit and and you chose electronic yeah I was like I feel like I’m an electronic artist I could hang with these guys and then straight to number one yes oh my gosh of course and so it was really so it’s a really a question of you I’m gonna get number one anyway you might as well yeah let me pick my chart but then billboard gave you you went to the top of Billboard both yes and both the close easy for you oh and like you guys handle it I’ll go to the top of the wall why well I didn’t know that was gonna happen it was night it was a nice like you know you always keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best but it was a nice like oh my gosh I think I seriously stared at the iTunes page for about a solid hour after the record released just refreshing the page and being like it’s still there oh my gosh it’s still number one and so I mean I was like a little kid in a candy store I was so excited about it now are you resistant to it being classified as either classical or pop alone I know because it’s not either one of those things alone and then is because you incorporate so much electronic music into your stuff is that you’re like okay well if I if I classify as electronica then I’ve got you know it’s like a happy medium why not alternative or you know okay I could go in so many different spaces I like to think of myself as an electronic artist cuz I that’s kind of why I started doing the art form that I do is because I got sick of being a classically you know classical violinist I got burnt out and I just was like I’m so tired of playing music that’s been played for hundreds of years you know from Mozart to to now and and what venues were you playing that mmm classical music um just in Orchestra as I played in orchestras and high school you know I played in the college orchestra Brigham Young University and you know and I would do little solo gigs every now and then at weddings but I was like I want to I want to entertain I don’t want to just impress and I thought well what kind of music do I like and I love EDM I love dubstep and I was really getting into Skrillex and so that’s why I want to be a classify as electronic artists it’s obvious that there’s classical music involved there’s a violin so that’s not gonna surprise anybody but you know the electronic side of it is something new for the violin and so that’s why I like to sit there and sometimes you actually play the electric violin anyway right I do mm-hm so but that’s not on every track right no most of the time I actually play an acoustic traditional violin because I just like the sound of it butter but either way there’s so much you know electronic music in there that this is this is my category yeah that’s my self-chosen category I mean and I didn’t necessarily want to bring this up this soon but since were there when you talk about pop and classical you’ve got what was that the New York Times piece yes my first basher article written on me in a small paper the New York Times yes and the way that they set it up was a pop expert or whatever a classical music expert attic to to critics right and doing what critics do being critical right and you know we’re reading this before you come over and rats reading he’s like oh my what he’s like well I’m reading this article so then I read it and it’s you know they’re being very critical I mean this just came up yeah I think two days ago or something is when you read it I assume you’ve read it I did read only once how would you how would you describe it um you know I was really taken back because I’ve never had um you know I’ve never had a mean article written about me they’ve always been very positive and like oh this is really interesting or you know this girl’s an entreprenuer or just you know talking about the YouTube model or the music but I’ve never had someone blatantly just say gosh she’s not talented she’s not you know she’s she’s bad at the classical music and she’s bad at the electronic you know I’ve never had someone come out and say that so you know it’s one thing for people to be like oh that stuff never bothers me but you know I don’t know how you can not be kind of hurt when you read that stuff and I actually got the article sent to me by um Peter Hollens and I think he didn’t read it he just was like oh Jake it out here in the New York Times and then immediately he sent a font like he sent a link and then immediately sent to follow up texts of like oh I just uh you know don’t they don’t know what they’re talking about so I’m like oh he obviously didn’t read this before but um well on one hand it there’s that sensation of you know you’ve arrived at some certain level when there’s people trying to rip you apart that doesn’t happen if if you’re just floating in the lower echelon trust me I’ve experienced all right no it’s true that’s what everyone you know my managers my band they’re like don’t listen to it yeah like if you don’t have haters it’s a you know you’re not doing something right so that’s very true and at the end of the day it’s kind of uh you know rethinking about it’s like you know when you’re making the the old-school guys scratch their heads and say I don’t get how this is working it’s kind of a cool you know I think that’s what we youtubers have been doing is making the old school program and system just say I don’t get it I gotta figure out because I don’t get it and so well that was that was interesting thing about it it was both of them the pop guy the classical guy were asking the question why yeah and I think that says it all you know for them to ask the question why is she popular just in therein lies the they’ve exposed themselves so that they are disconnected from what’s actually happening in the place where you know you’re experiencing this incredible success which is just it’s a different thing right you know and well deserved I would say in addition to that it’s they’re both speed you talked about talked about that people trying to encapsulate you or put you in a box right that okay they try to put one guy speaks from the pop box and someone else from the classical box well you’re you know there’s all these fights happening over the iTunes charts wanted to know where to put you to so that to me it seems like an asset that it’s people can’t box you in in that way I mean is that is that something that was calculated or just a byproduct of what of you expressing yourself you know I’ve always kind of it’s kind of been a theme I think of my life is I always hated it when people were categories I didn’t think categories were meant for people you know if you want to be a dancer who says you have to be shaped perfectly like this or if you want to be a model like not all people are the same look you know I don’t understand why everybody feels that people have to be categorized and and so in my music I just wanted to throw all these things together that I loved without thinking about what it’s supposed to be or what it’s always been or what does go together dancing and violin that does not go together but I love both I love kind of quirky fashion I love making videos and I thought what can I possibly do with my life it involves all my favorite things like regardless of the rules and this is kind of what happened and you say you’ve never had anyone be that mean to you but that’s not really true I mean you’ve got that’s true you’ve got the Piers Morgan thing on America’s Got Talent which I would love to get to that kind of in context aha if we could go back and kind of hear more of your story from the beginning I’d love to hear where you came from and the start of it all no talking empathy oh my goodness so the story I started playing when I was a little kid I begged my parents for lessons where is this this is actually in California I live I grew up in Santa Ana when I was there you know till I was like eight years old and winds are yeah winds come from santa ana weon yeah my mom when we lived out here when I was a kid and it says we moved back out here my mom walk well you know kind of call and start talking me and she is like you feeling oh Santa anyway she’s from Georgia but it’s like boy she remembers those Santa animals I just agreed because I you seemed so excited about it mom seemed excited she’s obsessed with the Santa Ana winds like you’re the source of them oh you’re tired she was young yeah I didn’t know any better okay so she just thought it was normal that breeze and what was your family like I mean your parents siblings yeah I have well back then I had two sisters and my mom and dad and my dad was a you know freelance writer at the time which we were a pretty you know if that says much we were not financially well-off one matter what are you right um whatever he could find he wrote advertisements he wrote you know just anything he also he used to read me bedtime stories of his scripts that was his dream job was to be a film script writer and so like I got a lot a lot of Who I am today is from my dad because he just kind of like filled my head with stories and experiences and adventures and he always told me like you know chase your dreams and he was chasing his dreams when I was a kid and and also he wasn’t afraid of the fact that you know sometimes chasing your dreams doesn’t mean you have to see seed it’s the it’s the fact of chasing your dreams and feeling okay you know even if you don’t get it you still tried and my dad is still writing and you know doing stuff and he’d never had his film made yet but you know um he’s just inspired me so much to not be afraid of the fact that someday you might not reach your dream but it’s okay to try you know it’s kind of essential to try so I’m very grateful to my dad for filling my head with crazy dreams and I was said I want our grow and be like you dad like I want to I want to have adventures and do things and well that’s your mom my mom’s the best she she was a stay-at-home mom she raised a bunch of crazy little kids and she was the most supportive just driving us all to like it whether it was violin lessons or soccer practice or you know it’s still she’s coming out to LA actually this weekend for my my tourist starting and she’s gonna be helping me like kind of finish sewing my costumes and she’s gonna be you know I gave her a list of I also need a pirate map can you make me a pirate mat like you know she’s just super crafty and just personally you need a pirate map or that’s quite a show you have to bury the treasure right backstage and then you have to make a map for me to find it that’s what a game yeah no you’re a pirate in your no there is a I wrote a song called master of tides and the whole theme of the songs I wanted it to feel like you were on a pirate adventure and so in the show like my dancers are using violin bows as swords and the whole thing is like we’re on ax we’re on a pirate quest I’m the captain and the show is actually pretty sad where my passion you know I I might I have not finalized that yet but should I wear and I don’t for that number yeah yeah does anybody get scurvy nobody gets scurvy maybe I’ll add that if we give you a third piece of advice we’re gonna have to get a credit in the program you should pass out oranges to the entire audience during that no oranges that treat scurvy oh okay you turn it off and say you’ve all got scurvy and in the give away free ideas listen hey well just put us on payroll right y’all have that exercise video and you’ll be wearing an eye patch your career will be so quickly your mom’s in charge of the eye patch in the treasure map a treasure map and went so when did you move from Santa Anna we moved to Arizona when I was 8 and that’s where most of my memories are from my childhood I consider that home my family still lives there but yeah Arizona Arizona nice and hot and like we’re talking desert not like the high snowy part of Arizona yes it does surprisingly no one knows about that part except for you yeah I drove through the cold part one time I was like what is this right now so what kind of things did you do to entertain yourself at that age when you moved to Arizona you know we always when we moved to Arizona it was like our family’s dream to live in quote we always called it the country and we wanted to live somewhere where we could have like a horse in our backyard and chickens and yeah we moved to the country and we did we ended up getting a horse and so we would ride me and the we made best friends with the neighbor kids and we would play cops and robbers all day and build hay forts I mean the kind of like podunk we’d play in the ditches that was my childhood hey forts yeah and you have a violin at all times always no I did not that’s what I picture okay 84th dial-in oh that’s like a little hoedown in itself yeah but no violin yet violin yes but I didn’t take it to the hay forts I would play at home and then when I went outside I believe the violin at home were you playing other instruments too you know you know piano piano lessons or guitar or anything else it was like no this is my instrument it’s pretty much violin until let’s see I picked up the flute and then the baritone in high school I mean I wasn’t I mean I was kind of your typical I mean I was in Orchestra I played the baritone and the flu I was like a band nerd and in work dork like I was the cool kid on campus obviously now when you make a decision to play an instrument I mean I know what goes in went into it for me it was just like how cool am I going to be I don’t know why I just trumpet and link also chose trumpet I just felt like no saxophone I have it though okay I felt like saxophone is like I’m trying to be cool and you know I’m trying to be cool and trumpet is like I’m in the brass section but I’m cool and I’m a can make this cool you go it can go either way with the trumpet bone just kind of like I don’t have a chance when you just made the deceased Lee made this decision at a young age but what went into it was they’re like oh this person plays the violin they’re my inspiration or so no I think nothing can fit up under my chin real well what went into that so when I was really little my parents used to take me and my sisters to Orchestra concerts and because they loved classical music neither of them played they would also play these old records of classical music in our home and at the concerts I don’t know if you’ve been to an orchestra concert in awhile but the first violin player the first chair they come out at the beginning of the concert and they tune the entire Orchestra and usually there were a whole thing yeah they’re wearing something a little different than everybody else sometimes wardrobe autonomy and they always get the solos and so is just like to me like my parents didn’t play like rock music we didn’t go to rock concert so to me that was a rock star I was like yeah that’s the person in the orchestra has the power and that like commands everybody wow I want to be that person like not just one of those violinist I want to be that one that gets the stand up in front and tuned everybody and how how is what they wear different they have like a red sash or something like how what is the difference sometimes I mean sometimes they’re wearing the same thing and sometimes if it’s like a special performer like you know featured player they’ll like you know the woman would wear like a red dress and everyone else is in like black you know so it just depends but when that seems like it’s kind of a constant theme with you too is kind of naturally finding a way to stand out you know did you notice that was that happening as a child you were like look what she’s doing with her hair what is she what is she trying to prove I mean were you dressing in different ways you know how are you different as a kid um you know I kind of joke that even as a little kid I had a slight like centers syndrome like I mean I think I was probably a pretty annoying child just because I always wanted to like look at me and I remember like you know one of my first days ever going to school it was in first grade I wore a wig to school and like button up Chinese kimono with gloves like and I kept my mom let me go to school like this you know in costume I went in a full-out like dress-up costume sparkly red shoes like a wig and my and I can’t I’m like what was my mom thinking like I came out ready to go to school and she’s just like all right like and what were you thinking like what do you think what you’re going to accomplish think I can’t remember I remember doing I remember walking into the classroom like I think it’s the reaction I just knew that everyone would laugh and that made me really excited and luckily kids were really nice and Santa Ana I can’t believe people that make fun of me maybe they didn’t I was just so like unaware that I was like are you kidding me my wig is awesome never heard of anybody wearing a wig – first the first day of first that’s a first for me yeah that’s the kind of child is not much has changed well but you don’t do the wig yeah I’ve left that out I mean for the record it’s not a wig okay for the record so you got your parents to buy you a violent I did I convinced him and I know it was a big it was a financial sacrifice it was not easy for them to get me a violin and to pay for lessons but I think that’s why I worked hard as a kid was cuz they let me know that hey you know if you don’t practice like that’s when the lessons stopped and that’s when the violin goes away and so I knew that if I want to keep doing this I gotta practice right so at this time as you’re kind of developing the skill getting better beginning to experiment with other instruments what were you thinking in terms of you know with the kind of kid that had life goals things that you wanted to accomplish a career in mind that kind of thing yeah I actually wanted to be a film director of super into making videos violin I always wanted to keep it a hobby and I you know I worked really hard at it but I was like this isn’t always gonna be my fun I don’t ever want it to become work you know and that’s why I didn’t even study it in college I still played and was in the orchestra’s and stuff but it was like that’s gonna be my fun and that’s ironically I think why it turned into my quote you know career is cuz I still love it and I never lost that but yeah Ridge ”’l II I went to I went to BYU to study film I was in the film program and oh and we saw I mean you put them on your channel the early videos you made back in high school right Lindsay’s beginnings right like 16 years old 17 18 oh yeah those are the best ones a lot of cool special effects in those the meaning good stuff coming out of people’s hands I love how you just refine air coming out of your hands well the cool thing is you recruited like all your girlfriend’s so it’s just like all these like high school girls it’s a little leak and a character like turning around and like shooting ice and fire out of their hands and like none of us were actors like at all I mean which is so great like we just kind of cry like I’m laughing so hard every time I watch those because they’re so bad but it’s a time you know obviously they’ve kind of become comedy videos that’s how that’s how they would be categorized at this point yes but at the time we’re thinking action director pretty much i remember thinking when we were making them i don’t know how i did not see that these were terrible but i’m hurt even my friends like i would show him as i was editing and be like look how good this special effects like it looks like fire it’s coming out like i don’t know why we all thought in some fantasy world that it looked really good but we all you know knew this was gonna win Sundance in the next year and I don’t know well they were super entertaining and thank you and so that’s what you wanted to do you go to BYU film school right in order to pursue this mean your based on your portfolio they got that fire n thing down I love the fact you put that on your channel by the way I think that’s well you know I don’t like to put up a facade of like oh I just was you know just became this automatically or now it’s like no everybody starts somewhere and usually it’s pretty bad well I think it’s cool I mean I you tell me if this is sexist but there’s a lot of I see a lots a great way to start a question won’t tell you if it is but I’ll tell you if it is I mean there’s a lot of guys whose I made videos get do it you know a lot of the I do just don’t see as many girls who ever wanted to be filmmakers or taking their dad’s equipment and making videos with their friends and forcing their friends into their videos does that mean make you like a filmy tomboy type thing that way it is true though like there aren’t as many women the feel of this and I’m not sure why that’s why I’m like I’ve even gotten to speak at a couple conferences that were like women in technology you know because it’s something that I think women are so artistic and actually maybe I’m the one that’s being a little sexist I love working like I’ll edit all my own videos but if I don’t edit them I usually like to find a woman editor because they edit differently like women have they see different things and I think that women just have a different eye and I think there need to be more women directors and such because yeah that men are great but women are so rare and they bring something new to the table I think yeah so we’re on your team now that kind of makes that things happen for you and your videos and that kind of thing you’re like okay let’s let’s bring in those that group of girlfriends again like I have in high school bring my girls no actually I mean I guess most of the people I work with is there it’s a group of all guy directors I still need I still need it I haven’t found any editors in LA that are women but and probably mostly I I still do almost all my own editing just cuz I’m kind of a nerd and I really it’s one of my favorite parts of the whole process is I love to edit the video okay well let’s go back so you made the decision to go to Brigham Young so you were you raised in a Mormon household or I was yeah it’s brought up Mormon and just really you know it’s made me so happy you know and I just fully believe it and I on a mission when I was 21 and and then were standard is it it’s for the young men are asked to go on missions and then girls it’s kind of like if you want to go you can go to okay so okay with girls is totally up to to you yeah mm-hmm and so you was that an automatic decision you wanted to do that or most girls not deciding to do that you know it’s becoming more and more common it used to be a lot less common but over the last couple years more and more women have started to go and for me I don’t know if you ever experienced that experience this where all of a sudden you feel very called to do something and he just suddenly something you never thought you would do but all of a sudden like that’s how I felt I was just like I never planned on doing this I never kind of never wanted to go on a mission but I just suddenly felt so called to it and you know it felt right and I knew it was something I was supposed to do and it was kind of ironically almost the same thing with music I got off my mission and returned back to BYU and I’d be sitting classes and all of a sudden all I could think about was music and it was like music then was became my like calling and all of a sudden I’ve never been so driven about anything and it was any moment of spare time I was playing with a band here or writing over here or doing an open mic night you know it’s just finding any opportunity I could to play sure but your mission was in New York City right it was uh-huh and so that’s a year your youth your and a half yeah it’s quite it’s a big chunk of time and as a mission er you just are teaching people that want to know more about you know the gospel of Jesus Christ or Mormonism or and they pair you up with your pair with different people like we took when we talked with Shea in here we really picked his brain about yeah cuz he traveled a lot for his mission and he had all of these interesting stories about getting mugged and he go he went to an english-speaking he went to Trinidad and Tobago right yeah so I can’t remember right now he went to the only english-speaking country wanted to South America he wanted to speak another word only one South America yeah that’s crazy so well what was a defining moment in your New York City mission experience how they’re good better let’s see a defining moment you know it was I always believed you know I mean I was brought up Mormon and I always believed it was true I never kind of had much reason to question it because I was happy and you know I felt it was true and but it was on my mission emissions really hard because you do nothing but you know you don’t watch movies you don’t listen to music you know all you’re doing for a year and a half is literally service teaching people you know and trying to find people that are searching for truth and you get a lot of rejection with that well I mean I was spit on you know people you know people you know yell at you on the streets cuz they don’t agree with you know just by walking by they just see your name tag and I like uh I hate you but you know I mean of course what the bad comes the comes the most amazing and it was just you know and also you can’t talk to your family or friends you don’t get to ever talk to them and so entire 18 months you get to call home on Mother’s Day and Christmas mmm so that’s the only time you get to talk to your family and you get to write a letter once a week and so you know it’s really you know this was a time when I had to just really soul search I was like when I was struggling I couldn’t call my best friend and I couldn’t I couldn’t call my mom and just be like I just need to vent I was you know I was with somebody that I didn’t even get to choose to be with you know and you know say I’m every girl I was with was great but that doesn’t mean they’re your best friend and so you know just really having to rely on prayer and thinking do I you know I’m out here sacrificing a lot I’m putting a lot you know my life is on hold and do I really believe this and when I am struggling can I actually rely on God to give me support and for me it was those moments it was those hard times that taught me yes I can and I I do know this is true this is worth sacrificing for to serve other people and it was the most selfless time of my life and even though it was hard I was I was so happy because when you’re not thinking about yourself all the time like you know and you’re thinking about other people it’s amazing they like the freedom and the just the inner joy it brings you I don’t know and I don’t there will never be another time in my life where I’ll be able to 100 % think about other people and so I’m very grateful for that time that I had and just you know and it also taught me that you really can’t get along with anybody you know if your will if both people are willing to make it work like you can make any relationship work but so that was a you kind of explaining that that’s uh that was kind of a confirmation of your faith that you went on your mission since then you know since becoming the Lindsey Stirling that everything everyone knows and loves and that you’ve travelled the world and you’ve you’ve met lots of different people had different experiences has that changed the way you think about your faith no I mean in a way I’ve had to just really solidify in my own mind like where are the lines because the entertainment industry is not very much about you know centered on faith or standards and so you know when I started to see myself going down this path of light and I started to catch a glimpse of okay this is actually going somewhere I think this actually is gonna work I really drew some lines and decided where I was gonna draw them and what I would do and what standards I would never you know let falter and you know and I feel like a lot of times people think that’s a disadvantage because I won’t do certain things or I have to do certain things but I feel like it’s protected me so much because it’s given me feet to stand on that aren’t gonna change and it’s also and it was just in so many ways kept me grounded and real and it’s just and it’s me I continue it makes me happy well seems like you’ve gone you know a step beyond just okay well my faith kind of brings about these restrictions or whatever but you’ve taken the external step of saying publicly I’m you’re part of that I’m a Mormon campaign mm-hmm basically that’s like a mark the marketing campaign for LDS right it’s one of them it was just yeah it’s one of the marketing campaigns of just normal people are because Mormons get this kind of weird rep of being very strange and just like weird and so it was kind of a campaign of just like look they’re normal like we are normal people so did they did they approach you and say we’d love to feature you uh-huh and then were you like okay well it’s one thing to kind of to be this in my private life and people know you know they know your background when you’re into college and I got a thing but when you take a stand like that you know did you have reservations where you’re like okay this is kind of a new this is a new level of sort of like my faith being out there on display well it does make you know it just made me when I thought about doing this I was like you know if I’m going to be out there in this bold of a way saying that I am Mormon and this is what I stand for I can’t ever falter like that can’t ever be a question because now I’m wearing you know a lot on my shoulders of what I’ve chosen to represent and what my actions now reflect the actions of a Mormon not like an official norm I’m like an official representative because of that video but in a way you know it was almost kind of okay this will in a way almost helped me feel that extra resolved because that’s the person I want to be is not just Mormon but those standards that have made me happy and that have kept me safe and I don’t want to change from that and so it was kind of like okay this is just an extra little help to like never be tempted you know or be less tempted to like does this long time you know well in since making that stand kind of like okay just like you said you know okay well people have this perception of Mormons or Mormonism and what now that you’ve taken this public stand have you gotten more questions about that do you feel like you kind of taken a position of like okay I’m a I’m a defender of the faith now in the public forum like I mean how does that play itself out um I mean I do get asked quite like in a lot of interviews I do I’m you know I’m very comfortable like a lot of people like don’t ask me about religion or whatever but I’m very comfortable talking about it just because it’s just part of who I am but I will say it you know whether people are drawn to Mormonism or just you know finding their own faith i I do appreciate that a lot of people say that by listening to my story or whatever that they’ve been encouraged to you know search their own beliefs and you know search what do they believe in and try to find something that su-7 to me that I love that I think that people deserve you know and everyone it’s up for everyone to choose what they want to be or who they want to be but I think it’s important to search that out so after after BYU connect the dots between when did the America’s Got Talent audition take place that was while you were in college right yes it was I think was my junior year of college high I went down I came down here to LA and auditioned for America’s Got Talent and that was that performance was basically a version of what you do now what you’re famous for right you were playing and dancing at the same time which was it was funny that was one of the that was the first time I’d ever kind of tried it I was like I have this great idea at the time I didn’t have any original music I was just playing over you know I think I played over like a Ke$ha track for one of them and a FlowRider track for another you know I would just basically take some of my favorite radio tunes and dance to them while I played and that was my my new idea okay it’s interesting because America’s Got Talent they’ll find a lot of people on YouTube I mean we went on with the dope zebra yeah we were dead we were on we got we got three exes really fast it was kind of by design but I mean we were hoping to get at least like halfway through but it was just before this is the Howard Stern era first Howard Stern you know what we were the second people to ever audition for Howard Stern behind a marching band a marching band what’s the first remember that and they got through they got through and then we go out there and before the first thing that before she starts dancing Howie I think before you got to dance before the circle Lindsey we weren’t in the suit oh no I hate to burst your bubble there is no herbicide to suit dresses Safari men really short shorts being really Stern said you guys and you you guys think you’re funny don’t you millions of people think we’re funny anyway you feel a little better but but what I’m saying is America’s Got Talent will find people who make youtube videos and then they said oh the producers will get them to come on the show that’s how we were approached and we just did it for the fun of it I found an interesting that you it sent you’re telling me you invented your whole act in order to go on America’s Got Talent well actually one step backwards I invented that whole act because I wanted to be on The Ellen DeGeneres Show and I thought this was how I’m gonna get on the show she loves dancing and she’ll think this is so funny and so I filmed a YouTube video and posted it it was before I even knew exactly what YouTube was I’m gonna post it on YouTube and for the time it went viral you know like what went viral in 2007 is very different from now but that was even before my mission and right after that I went on a mission and then when I got back from my mission was when that video was still just floating around how many views me tell me at that time I think it got like half um I got like 400,000 views and but Ellen didn’t call you Ellen didn’t call me I mean I still have not gotten on the show someday but to say that hey I’m gonna do this to get on Ellen and you get 400,000 views is pretty amazing right and did you have any dance training or were you just kind of just kind of jumping around just feeling it swinging my hips no dance training yeah it’s funny though because I mean I’m not saying uh I’m a dance expert by any means you are seeing you in that zebra but I mean just like it definitely has this this feeling of like oh she’s she’s got some some sort of training here with the dancing and the pointing of the leg looks very technical to me a guy who can like just do the running man a little bit of the Roger Rabbit yeah you’re not saying saying much here right so no training it was just like you kind of just invented it yeah I just so how did you get on America’s gonna tell me so anyway so yeah so that video had gone kind of viral just one video and then they read doubt to me as a result of that one video okay talent scout found it from there said hey you should come out and I just I remember thinking at the time oh my gosh this is my big break because I had kind of been excited driven to Vegas at this point and like handed out DVDs and gone an audition for a different variety shows I’m like with this random violin dancing greenhorn I was like really going for it and I was like this is my break oh my gosh like this is my chance and so yeah I went for it thinking that my life was about to change was anybody else doing I mean is this concept of dancing and playing the violin in the way that you do it is it a totally original idea or if they’re like oh no no back in 74 there was this girl who was a boy you should have seen her yeah no one’s ever done it in my at all my style no one’s really done electronica type well you know to the extent that I’ve done it you know there’s like a group called barrage and they kind of like Celtic dance so they kind of like stomp their feet and you know they’ll move but not full-on twirling backbends dance like not dance dancing right very just more eager than full-on twerking full-on twirling I hate I don’t work that’s not my world I’m not at work I don’t think it would look pretty if i twerked but I don’t think Charles knows I’m a Mormon people will call you right go you’re right up here hold on now we got a distorted so you go out there on stage right how did you feel you know I was so nervous I was like beyond nervous it was the first time I’d ever done this kind of performing in front of an audience you know and my first audition went really well like they all liked it and said hey you’re going to Vegas then I was all excited and I made it to Vegas and Vegas again you know super nervous but I prepared a new routine and again you’re you’re going through to the live rounds in Hollywood so far so good and that’s when I was really like wow my life is about to change I’m gonna actually get to have a full-on performance on live TV coming up soon and so and then when I made it to that you know the next round where it was live that’s when I like I was beyond nervous you know I don’t think I’ve ever felt that nervous before for it’s that moment but it’s kind of funny because after a week they like all these camera crews are constantly filming you and people are interviewing you all the time and you know you have your own makeup artists your own costume designer you know just you’re treated like a rockstar and I’ve never been treated like that before and so you know I got to this point I was like wow I feel like I’m a really big deal I’m gonna do awesome and you know I remember walking on that stage and even though I was so nervous I felt like you know kind of a million bucks and I was on top of the world at that moment until I played and then I got extant I was just like oh my gosh this is you know and then the judges told me a bunch of really mean comments and at that but it’s just amazing to me I’ve never felt that much of an extreme a feeling on top of the world and 90 seconds later feeling humiliated like lower than you could ever feel in your life and just like I am dirt oh my gosh I’m scum of the earth kind of a feeling but so there’s the one Piers Morgan quote yeah I don’t remember I’m not gonna make you say unless you want to but I know it’s a good one he told me I sounded like drowned rats being strangled and which is really nice I don’t even know what that sounds like um you know and just that then he went on from there and then the other two judges were they laying into you to Sharon’s super sweet I think she could tell I was about to cry so she just was like you know you know you you have time you can get Bette you know very encouraging but definitely know like you were great you know you were really holding it together uh oh I did I did not I did not break a tear until I left the stage and then I you know yeah I might have cried a lot was that was that caught on camera it wasn’t they want to interview you as soon as you leave the states they want to catch those tears so bad but I held it together until finally they you know cut and then I just like ran to the bathroom and just like sunk to the floor you in a you know public bathroom backstage and just you know was there for like an hour just crying who was with you I was by myself oh man I was 18 so they don’t allow you to have people like if you’re like sixteen you can have your mom or you know whatever but if you’re over 18 I was actually I was 22 so I was over 18 so I couldn’t have anybody this by myself and then what I mean were you like that’s it I’m not doing that anymore what kind in a way as I sat in that bathroom yeah I was like I’m never going on a stage again like that was humiliating I never put myself out there like that before and for it to like just come crashing down from such a high level so fast you know national TV being told those things my family’s in the audience I’m just like every person I know and I’ve ever met is watching tonight they all tuned in to support me and you know and my family was so overwhelmingly supportive and they didn’t try to tell me like you know you were great they just said we are so proud of you like regardless what anybody else said like we are proud of you and it took a while to get over it it did and and finally I just realized like no I I love doing this and I just started I don’t even know exactly what it is that I’m doing yet I’m still trying to learn to dance and I was like I shouldn’t give up I just have to get better so that I make sure no one ever says that to me again and it gave me a lot of like all the sudden it switched from like fear and terror to like a lot of motivation of like I want to prove them wrong I’m gonna I’m gonna I’m gonna turn this around and I’m gonna show you know and I love to be able to tell that story to teenagers and kids I love to like go to high schools and talk about and show the video it’s super embarrassing anybody can see how embarrassing that would be but then to be like but look like you can’t let other people tell you who you are and you know it’s never like and at the time I thought I just blew the biggest moment of my life I blew it but like the biggest moment of your life will come again like there kind of is no such thing yeah they’ll keep coming and they’ll come again if you blow it again there’ll be another one so what was the game plan what happened next um I didn’t really know I kind of continued the more traditional route I started trying to write mute I did I wrote some original tracks and I was like I’m gonna throw these on the good old iTunes and you know I’m gonna send them to record labels and yeah I understand you’re still at college at the time yeah I’m still in college I’m finishing up soon and yeah I wrote this music and I basically took all my savings and poured it into writing this music you knows and I couldn’t get anyone to believe in what I was doing no record label was like oh we see the vision we get it like no one could see it except Devin Supertramp who contacted me who’s like hey I have this YouTube channel and I feature interesting talents on it and yeah I mean we absolutely have always known of his channel amazing cinematic you know mind-blowing shots in nature of crazy things happening people swinging on stifle having a good time exactly these is so much fun this is jumping off cliffs swinging those cliffs who knows so many beautiful people having such a good time doing amazing thing it’s like it’s a little representative of the world with a helicopter cam there right yeah so he contact like a cold call email type thing a Facebook message Facebook me and at the at BYU he went to BYU he had since left but he had enough friends at BYU that like one of them sent them a link to like hey dude this girl goes to BYU check it out it’s kind of interesting and so he was like yeah that’s really interesting and he could kind of see like a vision that other people couldn’t see in it and see eye contact me and offered to do a free music video and only requirement was just like let me put on my channel and I was like of course like his stuff’s amazing I can do it and you know from there we did this one music video and that night he taught a youtube seminar at BYU and tons of my film friends went and so I went and my mind was blown to say the least I was one of those people that had no idea that YouTube was a world and that it was a platform and that you could have your own channel what and he just kind of went through like this criteria of like this is how you do it like step by step this is how you can become a youtuber and take control of you and I was so inspired that you started dating him that I started okay I remember thinking hey he’s really but we started dating a little bit later yeah we started doing all kinds of projects together and I was just like I remember I called my mom after that cuz I was so discouraged just this whole music industry I was like how does one ever get in like how do you stick your foot in the door unless you have a million dollars or a connection then and finally I just was like oh I figured it out I know the way that I’m gonna make it like I can do it my own way all these other people wanted me to change and do this and then maybe we’ll take you on but I didn’t want to and I was like I can do it my own way and do it my own pace I don’t have to wait for someone to tell me I’m ready and so yeah I started working with Devin we did all kinds of projects and what was the first video that was on his channel it’s called I think he called it epic violin girl because all it is yeah you know at the time and he knows how to talk first and to other words and it’s it’s one of my first songs I ever wrote was called spontaneous mean it’s just me dancing around in really pretty places in Utah playing the violin much like most of my videos it is on my channel and I have to say it was amazing because I had these like three songs on iTunes that hadn’t sold at all like no one knew with like my mom bought them and my best friend bought them to support me but suddenly immediately when he put up this video on his channel I think he had he only had 25,000 subscribers at the time but to me that was a lot that was like wow he’s got an audience of 25,000 people and all of a sudden my songs started to sell and I was like okay I’m totally sold on this YouTube thing I need to build up my own little channel which I think had like 3,000 subscribers from that one video mm-hmm but Wow so in let’s date how did that work we know he was actually living in Hawaii at the time and so we like whenever he would come to Utah he would come to Utah quite a bit for projects cuz he had lots of connections in Utah and all his film buddies were there and he was coming back and forth from Hawaii Utah we’d always hang out whenever he’s here I’d help him on his you know the shoot as much as I could and you know he did a video for me here and there and we started Skype dating how cute is that Wow I know across the ocean across the ocean now when you Skype date with Devin Supertramp is like the laptop with a Skype camera mounted on like a helicam and it’s like rotating all our music uses a red camera as his webcam you get like a 4k image immaculate quality epic sky so you were long-distance dating so we were long-distance dating how long oh gosh like probably like three months okay it’s not too long not too long and then you know his channel was getting bigger and he was starting to travel a lot Hawaii’s not the most convenient place to travel the world from and so he you know was like I’m gonna come to Utah and we started real dating once he came to Utah are you guys together now no we’re not we dated for about a yellow I think about a year a little over a year and but yeah we’re not together anymore but we still you know we’re still friends and we still keep in touch a little bit is it just too difficult to manage two major YouTube channels together is that what it is you know no it wasn’t so much that it was them I think I both just realized that we fell in love with kind of something that was not gonna last like we were chasing our dreams together that’s pretty like that’s a pretty romantic notion and we were getting to travel these epic places around the world making these videos like all paid for by other people and like just going all these adventures and I think we fell in love with each other’s like passion and drive and at the end of the day we just kind of realize like we’re two very very different personalities we had you know when all of this slows down like are we still gonna love each other you know I think we just realized we had fallen in love over something that wasn’t actually real right and now your your latest album yeah the new release shatter me aha tell us about the you know the story behind that that title there seems to be a sort of a theme that you’re that you’re hitting on with that there is it all went back to I had this envisionment in my head one day right about when I started writing the album of that picture that’s the cover the cover is me is this little ballerina and I’m in this globe and it’s like starting to crack and I just started thinking about this ballerina that spins inside this music box she’s perfect she’s beautiful and flawless porcelain you know and she just spins forever to this melody and never you know never changes and I thought about does she want to change does she want to get out and I just had this ultimate connection to this character this little ballerina because there was a time in my life when I felt so trapped and I actually talked about in my I’m a Mormon video when I was a teenager I went through anorexia and it got pretty severe before I even realized that there was a problem and I just remember one day realizing like I am so unhappy I am so unhappy and I didn’t used to feel like this like what is wrong with my life like why did why do I cry when nothing’s wrong like you know and it was just because I had gone into such severe depression because my body was so malnourished and I was so consumed with things that weren’t real like scales numbers food like just constantly that’s all I thought about and I had it’s like this colorful vibrant life of that little girl that wore a wig to school and loved to like put on plays for the neighborhood had been completely suffocated by this image of like having to be perfect and having to be in control and it was almost like that porcelain shell of this ballerina and this shell of this music box and so shattered what was the was there a trigger that started that I mean you said that one day you kind of realized that you had a problem and it I mean some people they never realize they have to be told or there has to be some sort of intervention that right to convince them they have a problem it sounds like you had that realization yourself other people know that you had a struggle with anorexia can you trace it back to was there a trigger you know I had had it for a little bit and my mom had started with saying you know you know well before this quite a while before this like Lindsay I think I think you look really thin like I think there’s something wrong no no mom I’m just super healthy and busy I’m in college you know or even high school whatever you know I’m just um I just eat really healthy and I just kept putting it off and you know if she’d also sat me down later on saying Lindsay I think you haven’t I think you have an eating disorder crazy like but one day I just remember it was like everything clicked I don’t even know what the trigger was I actually I was remember I was thinking about how I had just been on a date and on the date I couldn’t even think about what the guy was saying because I was panicking inside that there was pizza in front of me and that he was expecting me to eat it and all of a sudden I and I was home after this date and I was just so I was so sad for no reason I and I was like why am I like this I didn’t used to be like this and I just realized my mind was consumed by worrying about stupid things like the fact that there’s cheese on this piece of pizza and I have to eat so much and I wasn’t even able to focus at all in a person that was in front of me and I realized my sister was you know we were roommates and I realized I don’t even like I don’t even talk to her much anymore like just I’ve cut people out of my life because I am so consumed with worrying about myself and being perfect all the time and you know I know why you felt that way I mean even the trigger on the front side I don’t know you know I worked as a therapist for a little bit after work you know down the line a while later I actually was going to be a therapist for eating disorder girls originally when I graduate or finished college and sometimes there’s really strong triggers other times there’s not it just is something that gradually happens to people as a result of like all the media and the society that we kind of values that our society has and it just kind of innately grows in people and they don’t you don’t realize it because it grows so subtly and you know and then before you know it like Yorkin and it’s just who you and then when it’s a problem in your brain and eating disorders an actual mental disorder and it’s so hard to recognize and it’s so hard to overcome because it’s the way you think you can’t step outside your own brain and think about how do other people think you know it’s like it’s just who I was and I was so used to thinking that way that it when it finally dawned on me that that’s not normal I remember talking to my mom about it being like like I think about this all the time is that not normal you know and just know that’s that’s not normal Lindsey you know and um and you know I just remember feeling at this time when I finally realized there was a problem I want I was just screaming inside I just wish that someone would break me free and just shatter this world that was encasing me and finally and after I went to therapy I went to group sessions I worked it out you know my family was very supportive and finally I learned that it was like I was the only one that could change myself like no therapist could save me my mom couldn’t save me like I had dish and so that’s kind of the song shatter me the music video is about that ballerina and basically she has to break curse and you know there’s this moment in the video where I like hold up my hand and I see all these cracks all over my body and I I just remember when I was starting to change out of my eating disorder habits it was so scary because everything I had learned to value was based on this crazy disorder in my head like everything that had value and I just wondered if I change is there anything left is there gonna be any value left in me and that’s what this ballerina had to think if I you know keep cracking is there gonna be anything left and but she makes the decision to play and she shatters the you know her shell and that’s when she discovers herself so that’s what shatter me is about it’s about self discovery now since you know you’ve obviously shared that story in a number of different venues and now you’ve kind of made it come to life in your music my experience in talking to some other people who’ve kind of been vulnerable about something like that I struggle like that because you tubers are so connected to their fans a lot of times you can get very overwhelmed with the amount of people who are reaching out to you for help mm-hmm what has that been like for you as people have become obviously I’m sure people have come out of the woodwork and said I’m also struggling with this what do I do like how do you handle that type of fan interaction from people who are struggling with an eating disorder you know I my heart goes out to them so much because you know I just I know it’s such a lonely disorder it’s something that’s so secret and even when I figured it out like I only told my mom for a long time my sister knew she but she could tell but you know I didn’t want to tell her I couldn’t you know it’s such a lonely disorder you feel like no one can understand you so I as much as I can I’ll try to respond I I really do try to respond to I mean I just try to respond to a variety of different things but you know my heart just connects so much to that and I just want people to know there’s hope because it feels so hopeless at the time it’s like how can I change the way I think like it’s impossible but I just want to let people know that like yeah you can change and this is how I did it but it’s different for everybody and so yeah I mean I think it’s a it’s extremely inspirational to hear the victory that you can achieve over the the way you even your own brain works and but I assume it’s it’s not the thing something that’s just okay you kind of kill those thoughts and it’s over and this isn’t there some level of a residual struggle that is still there or is it something that you can put on a shelf and it’s dealt with well it’s actually it was super discouraging when I first because when I found out I had it I did so much research about what is exactly this problem that I have and what do people say about it and it was so discouraging because they say over and over again you’ll never be cured from an eating disorder and I was like oh that sucks like I’m always gonna be like this but you know and it’s to an extent I still have a little unhealthy part of my brain but it’s I know how to control it now like sometimes thoughts creep in and I can sense and it usually happens when I’m getting super stressed like those little triggers start to come in but now I recognize them and I can just be like hey yeah here like and and because it is a brain process I basically had to retrain my brain on automatic thoughts like you know when something happened the automatic thought was oh you’re worthless because you did that you know no I’m not you know I had to retrain my brain the automatic processes and I had to look in the mirror and even though I didn’t believe it I would be like you’re beautiful and you know just I just really had to train myself to basically love myself again and treat myself right and so because I’ve done it before I mean in it I would go through relapses but every relapse was less severe and every time I’d get stronger and I’d get quicker at recognizing oh I’m starting to slip again and now it’s just you know I mean I I see it automatically when thing one thoughts start to come in or I start to act a certain way I’m like oh no that’s that’s that’s not good we’re gonna fix that so you’re getting ready to head off on your your tour when you leave for that on Tuesday oh gosh be yeah or no we leave on the on Monday we leave on the 12th ok so right around the corner as soon as the eye patch is sewed so basically you’re leaving here and going on tour yeah we’re going we’re gonna be doing the US for two months and then we go to Europe for a month and a half and we’re gonna be just going so that so this these events coming together you getting ready to head off on this tour you have this critical article in New York Times you know he said they said some difficult things even though they don’t really understand what they’re talking about do you feel like you’ve got something to prove none that way I have such an amazingly supportive fan base like you know I mean I couldn’t ask for a more supportive group of people than the people that have followed me you know from the beginning and um you know I do I am a little nervous not about in you know proving myself to anybody but just I’m doing so many things that I’ve never done before on this tour you know I was like to try something new you know I want to stretch them the envelope a little bit and try new things but definitely taking don’t stretch the envelope you should push it but don’t you should stretch before your performances because stretch yourself and that’s where I’m I’m sure you have to stretch so what types of things well I’ve gotten really good at improvising and jumping all over the stage and like I said twirling not twerking but I’ve gotten really good at just bouncing all over the place but this time I’m working with a choreographer for the first time my first dance instruction ever and I have to backup dancers that I’m really excited about and we have a lot of choreography together and so you know if I get off it’s very obvious because the two dudes next to me you know so anyways it was to guide answers yes it is I wanted them to be able to like pick me up and you know and also having to like strong dudes next to me makes me look super dainty well like I said I’m I’m truly inspired by your story you know the things that you’ve overcome and that just the the negative feedback and the way that it fuels you to achieve victory today by the way I can’t believe I forgot to mention this just today Piers Morgan tweeted what did he tweet I wish I’d remember it verbatim but he said okay Lindsey Stirling you proved me wrong how awesome was that today okay that’s great timing I know I was already stoked about that as like that’s been a long time in coming I’m Thank You Piers Morgan so anyways closure closure finally the open wound has been stitched up did you reply I retweet I actually have not replied it it’s been a crate I was on set all day but you retweeted it I retweet it and I instagrammed it but I should reply that’s the polite thing to do what are you listening right to tell you what to say just by my workout DVD and we’ll call it even okay how would you say thanks but no thanks no how about too late piers no okay how about keep them coming these are just how about how tell me about how your show is going thank you wait just cancelled means a lot really exclamation point exclamation point no week ooh emoji wink or just a little like semi colon wink mmm I don’t know what did the British prefer probably just the the real one oh it’s time I cannot emoji well listen this has been a true pleasure it’s time for you to sign the table thanks for coming out awesome thanks for having me and there you have it our ear biscuit with the one and only Lindsey Stirling yeah let Lindsey know what you thought about her ear biscuit tweet at her that’s at Lindsey Stirling that’s Lindsay with an e not an a and of course that’s at the end of the name not at the beginning well there’s also an i it would be lands earr Lindsey there’s one Ian there’s three eyes in Lindsey Stern Lindsey with Annie and sterling with an eye you know I mean you got a you got to know these things cuz there’s a bunch of different ways to spell that you could probably spell that name Lindsey with an ING entirely with two eyes I know but yeah but well you know that the Lindsey with an with an e means a Lindsey with the I at the beginning right our user Lindsey where you spill it ly in in DSP why we could have just spelled it out and and we’d have been done a few minutes 6l inds ey s TI r li ng i just spelled it in a way that makes it sound confusing you know but you didn’t seem too fond of any of my ideas for why did honestly I thought they were great ideas and I didn’t want you to I wanted to get a contract in place before you share them with oh because she’s gonna kill it with that workout DVD man I read to you right now I didn’t want her to be insulted a little concern it’s not an insult I mean I don’t think it was asking her if she plays weddings or kids birthday party it’s just you’re doing this amazing aerobic thing in your play music at the same time you could give all of the people in the class a fake violin like they don’t have to know how to play the violin and you know what that’s just one more thing to sell with the DVD you get the DVD course I mean they don’t do DVDs either DVD get a free violin get a free right the economics of that don’t work getting they’ll get a free like plastic violin or rubber violin it’s just something you put up there and note you know what it is it’s weighted the violin is weighted uh-huh and there’s different once you get a whole set of weighted violins she could sell these things in Target Walmart you go in there you know there’s that Lindsey Stirling set 7 violins of different colors increasing in weight and you get the DVD with it talk about that I’ve worked my way up to the Lindsey Stirling workout cello I’m a strong dude man sometimes I just wish we had time to execute these things of course we got to get her to buy in on this okay you get that’s what you need to tweet at our people that’s why we went through so much trouble to make sure you knew how to tweet at Lindsey because we gotta get her on board with this workout DVD two guys two weights and violinist with a cello we got caught violinist enix violinist enix woods Lindsey Stirling oh wow that’s that’s a collab on our Channel all right we talked to Lindsay afterward about doing a club on our Channel I was like I don’t know what we would do but you know where to find this that’s our idea that’s gotta be it okay please know what else do it first there it is the creative process happening in the in the post haze of of Lindsey Stirling having left the building remember if you like ear biscuits and you want to keep having ear biscuits manufactured and put into your ear holes via headphones or however you listen to this let us know what you think about it on iTunes you leave a review and you rate the podcast that helps us a lot you can also leave a comment on Soundcloud yep do it while you’re on iTunes get download shatter me at Lindsey’s new album yeah go ahead and do that too and see her in concert she’s gonna have two guys being backup dancer yeah she’s gonna have an eyepatch and listen she’s gonna be coming to a city near you she’s going all over the freaking world you’re probably gonna she’s probably gonna come to a city near you and you should go see her but we’re gonna be right here she’s giving out free oranges in one of the during one of the no scurvy for you we’re gonna be right here next week you can count on us to deliver another hot piping biscuit for your here Wow and we will also be hot and piping like we’ll have pipes like flutes like the Pied Piper and we’ll be dancing and it will be we could be the Pied Pipers and that could be us in the video this is also then our workout video belkin waited pipes hot and piping with rhythm or do you next week yep [Music] [Music]