Whoa, why did the room just start spinning? Hmm, just a little. Like everything like just tilted on axis. Are we rolling? Do you need to lay down for a second? Let’s get this, let’s get it, let’s get it, let’s get it on camera. I’m going down. I’m fine now, it was just kinda weird, it was like- Welcome to, “Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Dizzy. Yeah. So just moments ago, right when we rolled the cameras, Link said, “Why is the room spinning?” And just to give you a couple… Just to review of the reactions, Jenna immediately got concerned, and began asking questions. Thank you, Jenna. Like, “How much water have you had to drink?” “Do you need to lie down?” et cetera, and what I said was, “Let’s get this, let’s roll right now!” He might faint, we might get it on camera. Well it’s like the room, it didn’t spin at like… It’s just like all of a sudden it’s like the Earth titled on its axis, and then I’m like huh, why is… Wow, why is everything doing that? Has this ever happened to you before? And then, I look over at you and you’re like clamoring to like start the timer. Yeah, yeah. Man. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are diagnosing my vertigo. I have, you know- You have vertigo symptoms? I’ve had a couple of things that have happened to me. First of all, many years ago I had that thing where like I had an inner… Like remember that middle ear deposit, I had like classic vertigo, and it was caused by this like, like a little piece, I’ll call it a little piece of sand. Like one of the floaty things- Part of an orbee. Inside of your- That never got out. You know, inside of you ear, you’ve got these like loops. And I had to get my physical therapist on the phone and like, I did this special treatment remember where like- Oh, a series of movements. Yeah, a series of movements where- Based on the infrastructure of the ear. Where I got the little piece of sand to traverse back to where it should’ve been, and that was, I mean, that was- Hold on, a permanent piece of sand that’s supposed to be in the ear? Yeah, like there’s pieces of things- But it’s not sand. No, it’s like- It isn’t like a biological- To like do something, no it’s a biological piece of sand. Yes, biological pieces of stuff in there that are actually what helps interpret balance. I’m sure the ENTs listening- Are loving it. Just loving how accurate- First of all, shout out to all the ENTs listening. I gotta through some love your way. They got three things to keep up with. Right, I mean- Ears, noses, and throats. That’s right, Rhett. That is what it stands for. What do you think about it? I mean, they could just be a whole doctor, and then it could be like, you could add more. Well they don’t- ENTBs. They don’t even take care of the mouth. They take care of the throat. The hole part is for somebody else’s job. Yeah. That’s the dentists job. But right now, I’m still evaluating whether I’m all right, so. Thanks for your continued concern. I think I’m all right, it was just kinda like- Well, we’ll find out. It was this ear, but like, you know when I went scuba diving, the next night I had like inner ear, middle ear barrow trauma. Like I could not clear, I could not equalize for two days, and that was very discombobulating, but that was my left ear, and this is kinda in my right ear. So was the tilting of the Earth the same thing that you had with the sand piece missing moved? The sand piece was- Spinning? Absolute, spinning to the point of like fast spinning, not even slow. Wow. This is like, you know, if you have too much to drink and all of a sudden you sit up and then everything just. That’s what this just felt like. It was kinda slow, but. I can still see out of both my eyes, I’m good. Well. You know, I’m good. We’re here, we’re rolling, we’ll get it. I mean, I’ve been snowboarding the past two days. I do want to tell you about that. I missed your post, your delayed New Year’s Eve party. My delayed gratification party. Like the way later than New Year’s Eve, New Year’s Eve party, and I’m interested. I have some questions for you about that, ’cause Christy went to it and told me about it. Yeah I’m interested in her perspective, because I got some feedback from a couple of people that intrigued me. Okay. I do want to tell you about something that I don’t know if you’ve experienced this yet in Los Angeles, this particular thing that I’m gonna tell you about, but I know that you would like it. Bring it, then. I love LA because there’s always things that you can find out about. This is a big town. If you’re not in LA, you might not know that there has been somewhat of a burger renaissance. Uh-oh, I’m all ears now. So Los Angeles has become the place to get the best burgers in the world, I believe. Now I believe that this burger renaissance is probably taking place in multiple places in the United States. But there’s a bit of a battle in Los Angeles for the best smash burger, right? I love a good smash burger. And I like all burgers, but smash burger definitely my favorite. They’re the best because they’re so thin. Like I’m just not fan of the thick burger, and then you get a thin burger and slice of cheese and then it’s like if you want it thick, we’ll just add another thin burger and another slice of cheese. Well that is exactly what I experienced yesterday, as a matter of fact. That burger is still with me right now, just like your little piece of sand that’s moving around in your ear, that little burger is in my body moving around. It’s turning into some much less appealing, but I don’t want to talk about that. Why do we always end up talking about that gesture? We’re not. Sorry. Smash burgers are my weakness. I mean, it may be my favorite food. I have a place- So much better than pizza to me, like. Well, okay don’t speak sacrilege son. I know Christy would hate me for saying that. It’s just not my thing. Well I get to a certain place, and I can’t imagine putting anything better in my mouth. Well, in terms of food. And there’s this peak that gets hit. Sometimes it’s pizza, sometimes it’s chicken tikka masala, sometimes it’s a burger. Chicken masala. I hit the roof of possibility of culinary enjoyment. And I hit it yesterday, and it actually was the second choice, so Shepherd has been telling me about a place called Burgers Never Say Die. So if you look at top 10 burgers in LA, you see there’s multiple trucks and restaurants, best smash burger I’m saying. And a lot of them are like on the west side or like getting into Hollywood and I was like… Or West Hollywood, but I was like yeah that’s too far for me. But he had spent some time with a friend in the Las Villas area, and I think this place is in Silver Lake, this Burgers Never Say Die, and I pick him and we’re all ready to go and you know, I didn’t like call ahead or anything. I didn’t think about the fact that it was a holiday. They were closed. Oh. They were closed. Huh. And I was disappointed but then I was like, “Shepherd we got smash burger on the brain. “We’ve got to just find the next one.” So I did a little search in the area and up pops- You searched, “Second best smash burger in the area?” I just searched smash burger on Yelp, and this other place came up and I realized at least on Yelp, it had more reviews and a higher rating than Burgers Never Say Die, and I saw the name of it and I was like, For the Win, which is an interesting name, For the Win, I’ve heard about this place. It’s also on the list. Let’s go in there. I haven’t been to either one of these places. I feel so stupid. Yeah you are stupid. Yeah, for not doing this, and so was I until yesterday, Link. For the Win was open? You would love it. Oh it was so open. Did you take a picture? Can you show me a picture? I was about to take a picture, but then I realized that the pictures that I had seen on the internet were better than the one that I was about to take. Of course. But the signature of this thing, which I’ll show you, which you will really, really like- Onions? Let me see- Onions in the burger? Some of ’em do that. There’s like a certain type of smash burger with the onions… Oh my Lord. So as you can see, there’s so much- The patty comes out an inch. Burger just spilling out of that. The diameter of the patty is two inches larger. The radius is one inch larger. You understand how diameter and radius work? And you want that edge of the meat to be a little crispy. And you can get a single, a double or a triple. I’m not a crazy person. I got a double. And the thing as you were describing about a double is that these burgers are so thin I don’t know how they’re still together, but they just put ’em on top of each other so you have this crazy amount of surface area for like, you know, whatever happens to char on the grill. Yes. And they serve them all the same way. Burger, cheese. Grilled onions? Their burger sauce- Yep, which is probably like a their secret Thousand Island thing. And pickles. And that’s the only three things they put on there. Now they’ve got like ketchup and mustard and stuff that you could like put on it yourself but you know, I’m not gonna do that. I’m not gonna defile it. Two things about smash burgers that tell you that Link thinks they’re amazing. First of all, pickles. I have never been a pickle person. Like, for all of my days eating Big Macs, and Big Macs, it ain’t a bad burger. I mean, it’s not. I mean, I don’t want to eat ’em all the time because then you come to realize that they’re not a great burger, but sometimes if you get a good Big Mac, it’s not bad, but I’ve always… Don’t just keep showing me pictures. That’s with bacon. I didn’t get the bacon one. I don’t believe you need bacon on a smash burger, because this is what I’m getting at with the pickles. I would always take the pickles off my Big Mac or any burger, because it’s kind of distracting. But a really good smash burger is so greasy and juicy that you need something to cut it and pickles are the perfect thing and I’m coming around to the world of pickles because of it. This is the one- I mean it’s just oozing with- This is exactly what my burger looked like. There’s grease coming off your screen, dude. Jamie, this is the one that I want you to… So their Instagram is forthewinla. Paint? Yes. You want Jamie to paint it? See that one right there? Can you do a painting? Yes, I actually, what if I did a painting, that would be cool, but I’ll put it next to that picture. Yeah, that’s the one, I’ll take a little screenshot of that. So that’s what my burger looked like. I got a burger, I got fries, and they had milkshakes. The chocolate was out. I got strawberry, and Trevor got vanilla. The second thing that lets you know that Link is a smash burger boy is I have gone through the trouble to learn how to prepare my own. Yeah, that’s questionable. No, no, I’ve done the same thing, I’m just saying that- What? I’m a pretty dang good cook and I can’t get close to this. I’m not saying how good it is. I’m just saying I have put forth the effort to actually say I’m gonna make smash burgers for my family. Hey kids, do you want to invite a friend over? I’m gonna make some smash burgers for your friends as well. Let me let you consider an analogy real quick. So I don’t think you understand my point. If you go to Italy- I’m not bragging. If you go to Italy and you see… No, you’re not bragging, I’m just saying the reason that I have stopped making smash burgers for people in my life is that if you go to Italy and you see Michelangelo’s, “David,” right, wherever that is, somewhere. Yeah. And you look at it and you notice the incredible craftsmanship and you notice the small penis and the other parts of it that are just so exquisite, and then you say to yourself, I’m gonna go back to my house and I’m going to make this. That would be an asinine thing to think, right? Where you gonna get the marble? You don’t know. You’re not trained. It’s gonna take forever, you don’t have the time. Just go and look at, “David,” when you want to see “David.” Of all the things that I don’t cook which is everything, I’ve loved them so much that I want to have it in my own house, and I feel like I could do it. Now, I do a decent- Do you see how thin the edges of this are? Look at that. You’ve never had a smash burger in my house. Those are great. The bun is perfect. Those ingredients are perfect. Why is anybody making a burger that’s not a smash burger? There’s people starting burger restaurants in different places and they’re not making these. It’s a different thing, Link. It’s the best thing. Yeah, but it’s like saying thin crust pizza and deep dish pizza, I see them as different foods. And we’ll probably get worn out. I have a preference. I like a smash burger better, but if I go to a restaurant and they have a thick burger and that’s the burger option and everyone’s like, “You’re gonna love this burger,” I’ve loved many a thick burger. I’ve loved a lot of thick burgers. But you know, I’ve lusted after smash burgers. There’s a little slight difference, but I appreciate both things. And you don’t have to worry about, does the chef think that it needs to be like medium rare? Like that burger we got last week at lunch, and it was a damn good burger. But it wasn’t cooked enough, even for me. It wasn’t medium rare, it was rare. It was way on the rare side. You don’t have to worry about that with a smash burger. You gotta try it. For the Win. I’m not a good judge of milkshakes. I know that you have particular opinions about milkshakes. I’m kinda like, “It’s a good milkshake,” but I don’t like judge milkshakes hard, so I can’t tell you whether or not their milkshakes are great. Their fries are very much like In-N-Out, going for the same thing in terms of thin. You need to put some salt on them probably if you really want to have a good time, you need to eat ’em fresh kinda thing. The burgers are the thing that they have perfected. Now I gotta go to this Burgers Never Say Die because Shepherd was like, “I don’t know which one’s better. “They’re pretty similar.” Let’s go there today. I can’t have two burgers in a row, man. Two days, two burgers. A lot of red meat. What are you trying to do to me? You gotta cut down on the red meat. Maybe this is happening other places in America. I don’t know, but it’s happening in LA and it’s like in an arms race. Let’s me and you have a little burger date. Next time we feel like we’ve earned a right, we’re gonna go and get us one of these smash burgers. It can be like our Valentine’s Day. Valentine’s Day’s coming up. Okay, so me and you are gonna go to get a burger on Valentine’s Day? Yeah, for every year for the rest of our lives. Maybe we just need a burger date. Is there an International Burger Day? I want it to be Valentine’s Day. Well I think I might have plans with my wife. Well it doesn’t have to be on the day. You know, me and Lily have a thing every Valentine’s Day. And of course me and Christy have something, but the 14th is not sacred to us. Oh okay. As long as it’s within the season. The month of February? Yeah, then we can get our burger, and you know what? We have our own little burger Valentine’s date ’cause if we just have a burger date, then it’s like y’all have a date? And it’s like yeah, but it’s Valentine’s Day. Oh okay. Is that better? Okay, all right. I mean, whatever you want. If you want to go get a burger in February and you want it to be a Valentine’s Day thing, that’s awesome. Every year and I want to look forward to it. Do we only get to go and get burgers in February? It’s a baseline. I need to know that once a year it’s gonna happen. I’m setting the bar low, man. We gotta start somewhere. I need to warn you how messy I got, how messy my face got. This beard and that burger. I almost felt embarrassed. I was glad I was facing the wall, let me tell you that much. That’s the beauty of us having this date is that we’re not attracted to each other, and we don’t care what each other looks like. There’s no romance. This is the thing, it’s not that I think you’re attracted to me. It’s platonic. To see the amount of burger sauce that got into my beard when I ate that burger, I think it would be unappetizing. I think I would need to face away from you. I don’t look at you. Or maybe we go in shifts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You stand outside while I eat. There you go. No actually you eat first because I’m still gonna have burger on my face when I come back out. I don’t want that to be the last thing to see. All right I’m gonna go in first, you go in after me. That’s how our date works. I mean, I had to find water. A napkin was not enough. Were you in the desert? You had to find water? I had to wet a napkin. I had to make my own wet wipe in order to get out of there without looking like a fool. I highly recommend it. Yeah so our burger date we will eat the burgers in shifts. We will not be seen together having a burger date. What are you guys doing? Well, we’re on a Valentine’s Day date. Well, actually, I mean he’s in there right now eating a burger, I’ll be in in a little bit. Right. Hey you guys speaking of love, speaking of Valentine’s Day, this would be a wonderful thing for you to get for yourself or for the one that you love. It is the Cotton Candy Randy… What are we calling this? It’s a Valentine’s Day tee. I don’t know what we’re calling it. It doesn’t matter what you call it. It’s a t-shirt. 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I don’t trust it. I don’t want to hit a camera . You’re in athletic mode today. Oh son of a gun. Right on cue. Jenna about took out her entire desk by trying to walk through it to get back- That was an athletic move though. Are you dizzy, too? No, I caught everything. Nothing fell. You’re an athlete. You’re in athletic mode today, bu-bu-bu-bu . The only better timing that I’ve ever seen… I have to tell this story because it reminds me so much of it, and you just experienced a fraction of it, was a time my brother-in-law, Chris, had just been at my brothers house, and had repaired a broken rocking chair, a rocking chair that had been completely like multiple pieces. Like an antique, an older one? And he like spent some time like 20, 30 minutes or whatever like piecing it back together. And then he sits in the chair and he starts rocking in the chair, and everybody’s like, “Chris, “you did it,” and then his wife, Ashley, says, “He’s pretty handy.” And literally as she finished the word, “handy,” the entire chair collapsed, and he fell to the floor and it was like . It was like a cartoon. Like it wasn’t even there? Yeah, he went boom all the way to the floor, rocking chair everywhere. He’s pretty handy. Boom! It’s one of my favorite moments in life. Aw man. That I’ve experienced. He is pretty handy though. So we don’t make a practice of commenting on each other’s ensembles usually. I mean, well- We don’t. But I do? But Jenna does. You might be the most likely to do so. You’re in athletic mode today. Yeah, thank you. It’s to make myself go to the gym afterwards. Oh yeah. Oh okay. ‘Cause like I’m already in the outfit, I’m ready, I’m gonna go do it. I thought you might be part of a location scout today. Oh okay. When I saw you in the parking lot, you were waiting, and I was like okay they must be going and like location scouting today. I’m in like mobility mode. I like to have different modes. I’m coming off of two days of snowboarding, and I want to tell you about it, ’cause I just have some thoughts about it. I went with Lincoln and one of my boys from the scooter club, one of the guys. Fellow snowboarder? He’s also a snowboarder. He had plans to go with his daughter this past weekend and then she had to bail. And so then he was like, “Hey I got this condo. “I’m still going. “I got another bed. Does anybody else wanna go?” And my big Christmas present to myself was a snowboard. And Lincoln’s big Christmas present was a snowboard. And actually the reason why we bought snowboards was my friend, Will, was like talking it up, because you know, I’d switched to skiing many years ago when you decided to switch to skiing, and you were like you know it’s like, this is gonna take us into our old age, you know? It’s like you can’t be a snowboarder forever. You gotta be… Skiing is the future. Well to be specific, for me. For you. I wasn’t telling you that you needed to switch. But I was listening. I switched because of my back. Skiing harder on the knees, better on the back. Snowboarding, harder on the back, easier on the knees, okay? That might be a rough generalization, but. And it may- You fall on your butt a lot and if you catch an edge, it like… The way that it messes with my lower back, snowboarding, I just kinda had to give it up, even though I really liked it. I liked it more than skiing. I felt like I wanted to make that transition, and you know it would be a good time to do it along with you, and then like the kids were learning kind of trying to learn how to ski, and this is like, what, over the past decade. Maybe eight years. But then he was like, the last spring break trip that we took, Lincoln and his friends tried snowboarding, and Lincoln absolutely loved it. And then I tried it one day, remember I told you, and I was like to see if it would come back from like all the years I snowboarded. I’ve still snowboarded a lot more years than I have skied. And was immediately still better than skiing, so I was like, “Man, this is still more fun.” So then my friend, Will, was like, “You know, if you’re getting a snowboard kit now, “you can get one of these where it’s like, “you can step right in, like step ons. “There’s no straps.” You got this nice boot that then goes into this special binding and it hooks in the heel and then hooks on either side of your toes, the right and left. So you just kinda click in, and then you don’t have to sit your butt down on the snow and like do all the straps and all this stuff. That would be essential to me, ’cause also the sitting down and then standing up in the snow is really hard on my back as well. So that’s what we got. How do you get out of it? There’s a little lever on the outside of the back heel and you just pull it up and let it- So you have to bend down and grab that? You just kind of. You can do that while you’re still going. You’re getting back to the lift and- But you’re squatting down to do that? No you just bend over. I mean, how do you touch your heel? With a ski pole. Yes, you have to bend over. Yeah, yeah, I’m just saying- I just grab my heel- I try to minimize the amount of that. I pull the- I’m just gauging this for myself. Pull the lever up on my back foot, my trailing foot, and then your heel comes out and then you twist your front feet and it comes out and it’s like the simplest thing ever. Okay. There’s no getting used to it. Like the first run that we took down the mountain, I was shaky because it had been almost a year since I’ve snowboarded and like, you know, you gotta get your mojo back. Did you bust at all? The first time you did it, did you bust? No. Because you were just going slow and keeping it- Yeah, just taking it easy. But there wasn’t a material difference in the experience of like these step ons versus like having normal bindings, like super happy with it. And the boots that you’re in, are they stiffer than a normal snowboard boot? Yeah, a little bit. But they’re not like a ski boot? No. Ankles are not stiff. No, no, no. Just the bottoms Just like you tighten… I mean, you want it to be very rigid and very tight, but like the way that you have these like this boa system is what they call it where it’s like wires that you like crank down these knobs and it like pulls it all together. And like the technology is just amazing. And so it was very exciting to have these things and like to try out our Christmas gifts, and we’re on the lift and like, Lincoln doesn’t emote a lot. He’s not talkative in general, and if he’s really enjoying something, he doesn’t gush. You kind of have to like really listen closely and realize, oh this is middle child Lincoln’s version of gushing. We’re on the lift going up, we had done like a few runs on the first day, and he was like, “Dad what do you think the best thing ever is to do?” And I was like, “This is pretty good. “Maybe this is up there.” He’s like, “I think this is it.” Wow, that’s hearty endorsement. It makes me feel good that like, you know, I ushered him into this world and he’s like I love it, and like, you know, we scuba dived together, we did that in New Zealand, we’re doing the snowboarding together. I got him into the one wheels just like Shepherd does, and- Did you say that one wheeling translates well to snowboarding, because that’s what Shepherd has read. That’s why he wants to do it, because it’s a one wheel theme. Yeah, it certainly helps. I mean, you still don’t have the edge experience. With snowboarding, it’s all about, you know, carving on your edges and stuff. But it’s the same feel. So yeah, I think it definitely helps. But I was like, yeah what is the best thing, like the best experience? And the more I thought about it I was like well, you know, I mountain bike a lot, it’s convenient, I don’t have to drive like five hours to do it like I do for snowboarding. I don’t have to, you know, scuba diving is really amazing. It’s otherworldly, but you do just like, you do a day trip, it has a couple of dives, and so you’re dedicating this whole day for like two or three 45 to 60 minute experiences, but by the time you get to like a mountain, and if it’s decent or good conditions, not even like great and most fabulous, it may be the best activity. It’s just so much fun to be on the mountain, man, to be snowboarding. We had so much fun. I love it. I’m realizing how it’s… So I’m ranking snowboarding, I’m agreeing with Lincoln. I think I’m ranking it number one for me. When you say activities- With clothes on. Okay. I was like, son, I was like, activities with clothes on, I think that snowboarding is now my number one. Well. I think mountain biking- you can do a lot with your clothes on. May be my number two, but you know- Why don’t you just say non-sexual? Yeah, we’ll just say non-sexual. Outside of the world of sex, snowboarding is it for you. Better than eating? Oh 100% better than eating. But yeah- Number one sex, number two eating, and then we get into the physical activities. Okay for me, I’ll put sex as number one. I’m gonna put snowboarding as number two. I’m gonna put, and I want to hear your list, I’m gonna put mountain biking at number three is a close shave above scuba diving, because scuba diving is just so amazing. I don’t know if I’m prepared to make a list here. You gotta make a list, because I wanna know what’s… And you can put food on this list. I’m putting food on my list. Scuba diving- You can put food after mountain biking? Oh definitely. A smash burger that we just talked about? The way that you feel about clothes that you would wear the same outfit every day is the way that I feel about food. I would give up, as long as I liked it, I would eat my smoothie every day, every meal and just get it over with. I do enjoy food, but I observe how people who really enjoy food like you- Well I’m jealous of you because when you really enjoy food, it can make discipline very difficult. I don’t have that. So then after that I’m gonna put food. Now I will say- No I think I’m gonna put naps before food. You can’t just eat smash burgers all day though. What I’m saying is that not a cumulative experience, but when you get that smash burger and when you take that first bite and then like maybe the next four to six bites, that period of time, which I recognize is, for me, it’s about 45 seconds. We’re talking sub-minute here. That’s an incredible minute. Hold on, are we talking about sex now? I can’t sustain, talking about burgers, I can’t sustain that for very long, so scuba diving, human lived experiences is much more pleasurable time, you know, I don’t even know how to measure that. It’s like measuring like what is work? You know, is it the amount of weight that you move over… I don’t know, there is a definition. I can’t remember because we make internet videos now. But like the amount of time that you put in. Force over distance or time. Right, I don’t know. I don’t know. So pleasure can be measured in some sort of similar, by some metric that time- So but we are now- Slight pleasure forever. We are now ranking pleasure experiences and you know what if Jenna, Jaime, if you want to develop your list, you can throw it in here. I am now developing mine as my number one is sex in every form, all the sexual activities. Okay. Every form? Every form that I enjoy. I mean, okay then I’m gonna put snowboarding . Now it’s starting to seem weird. Yeah. Because now we’re adding like food and naps and everything into it, and then after snowboarding, I think I’m gonna put naps with my dogs. I’m calling that a thing. What about surfing? Okay, I’ll take that into account. I’m now moving naps with my dogs up to number three, and then I’m putting mountain biking, and then I’m putting scuba diving just on the heels of that, and then I’m putting eating the most pleasurable foods to me. Okay. And then after that- What about getting a massage? You really like those. Then after that I’m gonna put a massage. I think you like massages more than eating based on what I’ve seen. Yeah because if I’m really hungry I won’t eat before a massage- You ever try eating during a massage? No, I don’t like to eat right before a massage. You don’t want to do that. Well let’s get a restaurant going. Smash burger. I’ll smash you back burger. We mash you back while we’re smashing the burger. Smash? So it would just mash mash burgers. And we feed the burger- And you’re the thing mashed. We feed the burger through the hole that your face is coming down through. But it’s toward the second half of the massage. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well it’s once they’ve… Well they start you… Where we’re at, you start face up. What do you mean where we’re at? Oh, in our place. At our restaurant. Typically you start face down and then turn face up. We start the massage face up, and we turn you over, give you a burger. Yeah, okay. You finish with a milkshake. Right through the hole. Yep, we’ll look into it. So what is your list? Who’s prepared to go next? You can add anything to it. What’s your number one? This isn’t how my brain works. My brain doesn’t organize pleasurable experiences. It brings them all, just like burgers, or foods to a place where I am in a certain state. Are you talking about like you like to have a rotation where it’s like you give ’em all- No I’m saying- It’s like they’re your babies and you’re giving ’em all attention. I’m saying that my pleasure receptors are pinged fully at certain states. You have to rank ’em, dude. No I don’t. I don’t have to rank ’em. So catching a wave, and again, I’m much more about what is the moment within the experience, because every single thing that you’ve mentioned like mountain biking requires a lot of work to get to the top of the mountain before you start having fun. That’s the problem with it. Now it makes that moment that much more fun, because it’s that much more rewarding, but it’s hell getting up the mountain, right? Scuba diving, like you said, especially in California, especially if you’re on a boat going out to a good spot, the time, the preparation, the equipment, just getting the damn equipment on. Potential sickness, nausea. For that moment, that’s why eating is so much easier ’cause all I gotta do is just go into a restaurant. There’s no work. I drove there. I didn’t climb to it. Yeah, I mean. You know what I’m saying? But you just have to pay for it, that’s the only sacrifice. Catching a wave which I am not a good surfer. You’re a better surfer than me, and you’re not a good surfer. I suck at it so. And I’m worse than you, but when you get a wave, and like that time I got a wave and a dolphin took it with me- Yes, but you’re thinking about just that moment. That moment. I’m asking you to rank activities, not moments. I can’t do it. I can’t do it, but I what I am interested in because you’re really tempting me to try to snowboard. I know, dude. But I just don’t know. You’re still so much better at it than skiing. I got a lot better at skiing. Like, I want to pause this. I got better at skiing. I want to put a pin in this conversation. I’m pretty good at skiing. I want to have this conversation, but I want to finish the ranking conversation, and if you’re not gonna participate, I will find others who will. I refuse to participate because it would be dishonest. Okay. Can y’all help me out here? I mean, however you want to do it. Is there something we’re missing? What’s like… I mean, well, I think you’re right. I think most people are gonna put sex first ’cause I mean, come on, that’s just great. I personally cannot snowboard or ski. I have tried and I don’t have that- You don’t have to compare your list to mine. I like jet skiing a lot. Jet skiing? Jet skiing is fun. Jet skiing is Jamie’s number two. Well no, it goes sex, eating, jet skiing. Okay. ‘Cause I’m all about food, like if I could just like… If I could never get fat, like I would just eat constantly would be what I would do. But jet skiing? I think it’s really fun, ’cause you go really fast, you’re on a vehicle thing, but you’re in the water. I like being in the water and I like going fast, and like so that’s really fun and I really liked ATV riding in the sand dunes. That’s fun too, man. That’s super fun and that’s like, I mean it took me a minute to get used to it, but once I got used to it you’re like oh, there’s so many possibilities. Where do you go jet skiing? I gotta get Christy on a jet ski. San Diego, like in Mission Bay. It’s like super fun over there. You can go by that big boat, the something USS something. Yeah, where you got the battleship. Yeah. Well see where my mind goes is you talk about these things and incidentally this is where the idea for the seven seals of satisfaction came from in Buddy System Season Two, this is- Doing ’em all at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you talk about… You said sex, eating and jet skiing, and I immediately just pictured myself doing all three at the same time. I don’t know why. But again, I’m trying to maximize the moment. You start wanting me to put this into a list and I just start wanting to combine the things and create a new experience. That would be awesome. Sex ski. Yeah if you could do that, if there was a way to stay on the jet ski and do all of those things, like how amazing would that experience be? I think you could do both. You can definitely eat on a jet ski. What is that called? I mean, you talking about and getting a massage? Sex ski is having sex on jet ski. Yeah. It’s like sex ski brunch. With a mimosa. Yeah I mean if I could put drinking in there, that’s probably rounding out number five. Yeah, we didn’t put drinking, okay. Jenna, what are you bringing to this? Put you on the spot here. I don’t think I could rank either, ’cause I’m one of those like if I would rank it, I’d rank it on like the new experiences I’ve tried, like it’s always the new thing, like when I did like you know when I went sky diving, I was like that was like the best thing, but I did it once and maybe I’ll do it again, but it’s not like- You don’t want to do it every weekend? No, no. Something I would do every weekend, sex and eating every weekend. I’m a skier, I’m not a snowboarder. I tried snowboarding and my knees didn’t like me at all. So skiing is much easier on my body. There’s something about being on a mountain and it can be so quiet. Like the snow makes everything so quiet, and if you’re at a space with like good conditions and not a lot of people, I mean, if you can find yourself on a slope like just on your own, or just with like a loved one or something- You can’t do that at Big Bear. You have to go to Mammoth to do that. We were at Mammoth and it was still, you know, you’re not gonna find that much space, but there’s just something totally zen about it. It’s totally peaceful and you can be in your own world and, Jenna, like you’re saying it’s knowing the parameters of your body and working within, like, you know, they always put a ski within your ability, you know, you don’t want to damage yourself or hurt other people. I mean, that’s one of the major ways people get injured is like collisions, but if you can just make up your mind and I’m really doing a much better job at this now that I’ve revisited snowboarding. Like the way that we used to snowboard was like- The way that you used to snowboard. Balls to the walls. I’ve always exercised caution, because I’ve been so injury prone, so. Yeah. I never pushed it like you did. But I felt like if I wasn’t achieving something, or getting really good and pulling off some sort of trick that I wasn’t doing it right, and now, you know, I’m a middle aged man. So are you jumping at all? No, uh-uh. I’m carving and I’m just like… It feels like I’m painting with my feet. It can be the most relaxing and rewarding and you can get into a, what’s it called, a zone, a flow state. You can get into a flow state on a jet ski, I bet. Yeah, as long as there’s like not a lot of boats around, I think so. Okay, but let’s talk about- Flow state. Let’s talk about the snow boarding versus skiing, because do you think that- See, Jenna gets it. If you had gotten… You didn’t ski as much as I did. Like, once we started skiing, I went like maybe five or six times more than you did. Yeah I never got- I got where I could do like, I mean, I could, you know, go down a black, but it would be completely pointless for me to do it, ’cause I’m just like skidding the whole time just to go slow. But like, blues, you know, blues and like whatever between… Some places have blue between blue and black. Yeah, like a blue, black thing. But mostly like blues and like not going too fast. Like you said, just carving. I got where I was having a really good time. I will say though the thing that never leaves my mind and I think this might be something that keeps me from having a great time is just the thought of eating it. Yeah. Running into somebody, having someone run into me, hitting a weird patch, and- Yeah. When I got my concussion on a snowboard, it was because I caught an edge, and it’s just like catching an edge with a snowboard is much easier to do than it is with skis. Yeah just like you can get slammed. Well I guess my question before I go into that. If you had gotten good enough at skiing, do you think you could reach a flow state or- Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Right I’m just trying to make sure there’s not a definitive difference because you see the people, there’s something about being in that position, which is like a skateboard slash one wheel slash surf position. Yeah. It obviously looks cooler, because culturally it’s cooler to be in that position, because of the other sports that are associated with it. So I think that’s why Shepherd wants to do it, that’s why Lincoln wants to do it. Like I think that teens want to do it because it’s clearly cooler than skiing. Right, I just want to do it because I’m better at it and I can enjoy it versus with skiing- I want to believe that… I’m tempted to believe that it’s more fun than skiing, but I can’t let myself believe that too much because I just don’t think it’s worth the risk. Well when we go together on a ski trip, now because I can just step in, you’re not waiting on me, so it’s a very similar experience. The thing that I was thinking about was like can I snowboard into old age? Like you see a bunch of people, a bunch of old guys skiing, just like it’s like golf on snow. There’s that many old people skiing, and that really just gave me hope with skiing that it could be a longterm, you know, rewarding adventure. You don’t see a lot of 70 plus year olds snowboarding, but- And that must be because of the injuries, I don’t know. I think it’s- Or is it just because it’s less of them do it to begin with? I think it’s because the sport is younger. Yeah, old snow boarders haven’t happened yet. So that’s now my hope, you know, I mean to be able to ski or snowboard or whatever, like any type of like physical activity, and it was very much on my mind driving back yesterday, the thing I like about it is that it tells me this is something I can work towards in terms of fitness. Like I gotta stay at a certain level of fitness so that I can continue to enjoy this activity that apparently is my number two activity, you know, up until like I’m 80 years old. So I gotta- Until you’re 80? 75. The consequences of a fall increase with age and because- Don’t talk me out of it. Talk me into fitness. I’m just saying because- That was my point. If you get hurt snowboarding, it’s probably gonna be because of some jack leg who just learned how to ski runs into you. Yeah, well you gotta learn to be very defensive. Sometimes you don’t see ’em. Yeah, I know, I know, but I think I could… Right now I’m just saying it aligns my motivations, you know, to enjoy mountain biking you gotta be a certain level of fitness, you know, to enjoy snowboarding. So like, I gotta start doing some more weights or something. Yeah. So that’s where I’m at. We had a great time. I ate it a few times, but it’s mostly like coming off- Really? Coming off the lift or- So when you come off the lift, it’s the same thing, you got a front foot in, back foot just kinda goes on the board. Yeah. I’m pretty good at that though. Those are things that I kind of forgot about and then when I went skiing I was very grateful that getting off the lift is such a breeze, and then you just keep going. Yeah, yeah. And also when you get to the flat parts. Yep that’s- It’s a breeze. I’m fine with getting off the lift but it requires concentration. The flat parts, there’s no way around it. You know, I can easily pop my foot out and then start, you know, kick push type thing. Like, can skiers and snowboarders really hang? I mean, that’s the thing, if we go on the mountain, can we really be friends? I think it’s gonna be like the burger thing, I think you go down, I go down, we meet later. Yeah, yeah. I don’t think we can be seen on the lift together. Yeah. It’s a fox and the hound situation. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you missed my party because of this. Totally worth it, I think. Christy was telling me that like she’s like, “There were people everywhere.” First of all, like the amount of turnout like I’ve never seen as many people at your house as Christy described, she was like, “There were people everywhere.” It wasn’t like there wasn’t a place you could go to like have a little space. It was a good crowd. I was like first of all, that’s a good party when you’ve got… You were concerned about turnout because it was a New Year’s Eve party that then got moved a month later, and then people didn’t even know. Well, not a month later. Two weeks later. So you had a good turnout. Well, so the original conception of the party, it was Jessie’s idea, you know, I have this, as I’ve talked about on this very show, I had this desire to do these events that are not just normal parties. You know and I felt like when Jessie had this idea for a New Year’s Eve party and it was a last minute thing at the time, ’cause it was two weeks until New Year’s and she was like, “Let’s just have a party “with just whoever happens to be in town “during New Year’s Eve,” which in LA is not a lot of people. Most people are from somewhere else, they go back home, whatever, traveling. And then once we started kind of putting together the list, we started realizing this is a really interesting mix of people because it’s people that she knows that I don’t really know, people that I know that she doesn’t really know, people that I know through what I do, but also are collective friends and parents of kids that our kids are friends with, and I’ve never mixed those groups of people other than maybe like my 40th birthday party, which was you know, I also had a bunch of Mythical people, it was massive, but I haven’t had a party like this in a really long time. And I was a little bit like, I don’t know if this guy’s gonna come or, you know, there was at least 15 people that had never been to our house before and had maybe met the other half of the couple, Rhett and Jessie, once or none, so you know what I’m getting at? So what was the total that was there then? 63? No, no, no, no. No. Christy made it seem like there was like 60 people there. Max 40. Oh okay. And you had an open bar, but it was coffee? Well we had a coffee bar, because Jessie did that for Lock’s graduation party where you can get somebody whose just gonna make coffee drinks. Like people like to drink night coffees? Well they certainly did at Lock’s graduation party. Now they had a decaf everything. Okay. That’s a good idea. The coffee bar was not popular enough to do it again. That was the conclusion we came to. And then we had like our little bar area just had like wine, champagne, beer, liquor, you can mix it, whatever. You can kinda make your own thing. Okay. I think I would actually do a bartender who was making drinks next time versus a bar. And then they can make a coffee drink, too. Maybe, I don’t want to make a maybe an espresso martini. I don’t know, I don’t want to speak for ’em. Yeah, that’s what I would have. I’ll get to the main event in a second, which is sort of the taking a baby step towards what some people might call a salon type event, you know what I’m saying? That’s what they would call it out here right. A salon? A salon is like- That’s where my grandma gets her hair did. People gather and then there’s something that happens from a person and we talked about like the pasta and PowerPoint idea, taking something like that and doing something like a group activity that was fun. Well because it was a New Year’s Eve party, we originally were planning on ringing in the New Year. That wasn’t happening so what I did that got some good feedback was I just put… I went on YouTube and got like the late 70s, early 80s and some 90s Dick Clarke’s Rocking New Year’s Eve, whatever, they’re just on YouTube and just put ’em on a playlist and so it was all these old acts and stuff playing, without the sound on because we had a playlist going the whole time with music, but you got to see like, oh there’s Alabama playing the 1985 Rocking New Year’s Eve. On mute. On mute. That’s cool. So that was a nice little touch. But I heard that you had some synchronicity between the Dick Clarke thing and like a pseudo countdown. That was accidental and I’ll tell that story in a second. Well Christy said, “Rhett was playing this old Dick Clarke “New Year’s Eve countdown “and he timed it to where the countdown, “and we all did the countdown, “the countdown led to like 10 minutes to…” What time was the main event? 10:30. 10:30. 10:40. Yeah she was like, “Until like 10:30 and then the countdown went “straight off and then it went “straight into the main event,” and I was like oh, I was really impressed by that. Total luck. Total luck? But you fooled her, man. You fooled everybody. Yep, I’m glad. Sometimes things work out. Sometimes you just gotta start something and things work out, things fall into place. That’s what you should have planned. I was giving you so much credit. Yeah it was all intentional, Link. Did everybody count down like? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, they did. Now, the thing that I noticed and of course our friend, Gar, was there, and Gar is very observant, the most observant person that I know in terms of just like social dynamics and stuff. He is better known as the batting stance guy, you know, he literally can do like every batting stance of every major league baseball player that you care to know about, and it’s a very niche talent that, you know, the MLB loves him because he’s so good at it. They’ll bring him into the locker room before a game and he can like… Teams call him in ’cause he’s freaking incredible and like that audience is so primed for his particular talent that no one else has. And there are times when Gar will break this out at a party, not because he wants to do it, but because somebody knows he can do it, and starts egging him on. I’ll get to that in a moment, but Gar came up to me an hour and a half into the party and he was like, you know how Gar would communicate this, he was like, “Well done.” He was like- Good party. This group of people that you have assembled, he’s like, you don’t go to a lot of parties like this where you’ve got like that couple is obviously friends of, you know, parents of one of the kid’s friends, different vibe, then oh that person is from the entertainment industry, and these are very different vibes and you usually go to parties where it’s like one or the other. Yeah. And we just were like these people are our friends, and let’s just bring ’em all together and it seems like everyone really- It worked. Dug that vibe of like this person has this really interesting job that’s not in the industry, but industry people get tired of hanging out with industry people, because they tend to be vampires, leeches, shallow, status people, right? And so, he was kind of talking about that dynamic, because he’s you know, with his connections, he ends up experiencing these types of gatherings and he was just like having a blast seeing people interact. And Jessie is doing this thing where she’ll like go up and be like this is so and so and he’s a, you know, Grammy Award Winning, like stuff that no one wants to say, Grammy Award Winning Producer, and this is so and so and he’s an imagineere at Disney. And she’ll like say that so then they’ve broken the ice and don’t have to have that conversation about- Right, right. And then they start talking and so but then when she goes up to my new friend, Jake, who you haven’t met yet, she’s like, “This is- This is your potential golfing buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh it’s gonna happen. We’re working it out. We’re working on the date right now. He’s like- You can be so old and do that. Yeah, exactly. Jessie was like, “This is Jake. He’s a musician. “This is Gar. “He can do batting stances.” What she did not know is that Jake played division one college baseball. Oh no, here we go. And is a freaking baseball freak and the guy that he brought is also a baseball guy. Oh yes. That just set it off and then there- This was not the main event, by the way. No this isn’t the main event. This is just Gar in my hall and they’re just calling out people and you know, I know a few baseball players, Dale Murphy, you know what I’m saying like, I know like the all stars throughout the years, Wade Boggs, but what I don’t know is the specific ones where someone is trying to throw him off and throw out somebody they’re just thinking about ’cause they know baseball, and then he can do it perfectly. I’m entertained by that because I don’t- It’s blowing their minds. Because I’m observing the niche coming together, and they were flipping out, they had the best time, because he was doing the thing and he was going into all of his stuff where he emphasizes certain things. It was just a beautiful moment. But yes- Can’t believe you didn’t plan the countdown. So yeah, back to that. The main event. You did plan to have a main event, which, I was like what time did that happen? And Christy was like yeah, “It was like 10:30.” And was like that was smart, ’cause then it gives people a reason to stay at the party. It’s kinda like the people who are looking for a reason, like oh I showed up and now I’m probably gonna go at like 10, now they’re like well I’m gonna stay ’till 10:30 ’cause of the you know what that’s about to happen. That was really smart. Right, you got everybody sticking around because there’s something. It’s like the cutting of the cake at the wedding reception. Well you gotta stay until they cut the cake. I like the cake. You gotta stay until they cut the cake. And there was a little bit of preamble because so we asked Robert, the Mythical Magician, that you may know from, “Good Mythical Morning” appearances, and I think he’s done… Did he a do a Society special, too? He did. Yeah that’s what he did yep. And he did a party that you were at, DJ-ing. Yeah. He did Laura’s graduation party like a month earlier. And so we were like, “Yeah, let’s have a magician.” Because why not? Because how often do you go to a party at somebody’s house and they have a freaking magician. Not often, nope. More often than a guy that can do any batting stance but still not that often. And I also, the funny thing about it is, ’cause I was telling Gar this, I was like, I think our connection to Robert actually started with us… It started, the very beginning of it was us making fun of magicians. Yeah on this show. ‘Cause we’ve established that we’ve made fun of magicians on this show. Not that we don’t appreciate it, but we kind of poked fun at ’em, and then the whole thing started with Stevie telling us that she had seen a Zoom magician so we were like we’re gonna have that for our Christmas party. That’s what it was. And so he did the Mythical Christmas party in 2021. Completely over Zoom. ‘Cause it was all Zoom. And we did it because we like to do things that are a little bit weird and make people feel awkward. But what ended up happening is he did such a good job that everybody was just like I just unabashedly love that. And so then he just kinda became a part of when we need a magician, we go to Robert. And so Robert came early and just walked around the party and would just kind of go up to a group of people and start doing close magic, which is a cool thing to happen at a party. Yeah. You know, you didn’t expect it, like who’s this guy and all of a sudden he’s got a deck of cards and he’s doing something- Stealing your wallet. Only to give it back to you. And then we did a thing, so you know how our living room has steps that go up into the main part of the house. Yeah. So it’s kinda like sunken. Yeah. So we put him on the top of the steps like a- Like a stage. Yeah okay. Everybody sat in the living room, and we were able to fit everybody. There was a couple of people who didn’t come in, one of our friends, which will remain nameless, who you’ll be able to guess, was like, “I’m uncomfortable with magicians, “so I’m not going to watch this.” Which made total sense to me. And so a few people didn’t go in. But there was enough room, and he did like a, I don’t know, half hour show. And people just loved it because it was kind of unexpected. It gives you a focal point. Yeah and it was- Not only to stick around but to- And then once he was done, there’s a certain group of people who are like, “Well we don’t stay at people’s homes past midnight. “We’re going home.” You know, 60% but then there’s the 40% who are like, “Well as long as you guys are here and up, “we’re sticking around.” Yeah. So like the last person left at like 1AM or something like that, so it was way past my bedtime. Well I hate I missed it, you know, if I wasn’t doing the number one thing on my list that wasn’t sex- Yeah, magician parties, you didn’t rank that anywhere. Nope, nowhere at all. That I heard. I mean, I still don’t think I am. But jet skiing is now definitely on my list. But we immediately the next morning were talking about the things that we would do differently to make it easier on ourselves just to do it, but how much fun we had and then I got so many texts from people the next day who were just like, “I had such a great time. “That was a great time. “I loved getting to know your other friends.” I was kind of nervous about that whole like, this couple only knows Jessie. Hey, you know what, people come to a party, they can meet people. But yeah- You know. You set the table but everybody’s gotta eat. Yeah I was just very happy with the fact that people just kind of just did their own thing and like everybody was talking and having conversations and everyone stayed and- So the only change is no coffee bar, more alcohol, which, who’s gonna argue with that? I think a bartender instead of a coffee bar. You can’t go with a magician again. Oh hell no. Nothing against magicians, but that was just a… I’m gonna mix it up. Maybe a mechanical bull tournament. It doesn’t have to be one focal point. It could be we’re gonna do this thing where it’s more like the moth, where we would like you to prepare a story that is about this kind of thing and the first 15 people to sign up can tell a 5 minute story or a 3 minute story or something like that so then it’s like well if I don’t want to tell a story, I don’t have to, but people who want to tell stories are encouraged to do so, and so then we have a moment where everyone is like entertaining one another versus it being one person. Interesting. The other thing I’m gonna do differently is we got all our food from Porto’s which is great ’cause it’s all like finger food, you know. But we got it and we served it and we heated it up and so there was this like, you know, I feel like the food situation, we gotta think about that a little bit. I think in order to really focus I think you gotta get it catered. Put your kids in tuxes man. Put Shepherd in a tux. Like you gotta go with the lowest level of catering. I don’t want it to be fancy people coming around with plates of food, I’m just saying like… You don’t want to make the food hot. Yeah, and worrying about switching the things out, but like- Hate I missed it, man. You gotta come to the next one. It’ll be planned well in advance. Okay, okay. Do you think you’re gonna get people to tell stories? That’s just an idea. I mean, first of all, in Los Angeles, man, you got all these people and the thing is is that you don’t just get the people who come from an entertainment background to tell stories, you get the person who just has a really interesting job or experience, and then I might have to give ’em a little call and give ’em a little nudge and be like- You might have to narrow down the topic. Oh no, no. It would be do you have a story about pudding? Just to use, you know… That’s a little too narrow. You want me to share five stories though? Do you have a near death experience? You know and so then we serve like death by chocolate cake at the end and you’ve got… So it’s a death theme and it’s just like near death experiences. That could be Halloween. You do some kind of- That’s a good Halloween theme. Maybe that’s the October party is near death experiences. Yeah and nobody has to dress up. You could if you want to. But you could if you wanted to, but that’s not the theme of the party. Right. Well, I’m making no commitments. Making no commitments at this point. Well, neither am I then. I might show up or I might be snowboarding. Gotta hear about the deets, the details. I think my recommendation this week if I’m gonna rec it up, it’s my turn to give a recommendation. It is. Is make your list. You know, it’s good to know what you enjoy. I mean, I know some people are against it, and you know what, it’s not for everybody to like make a list, but to identify. You don’t have to rank ’em. And maybe it’s an unranked pool of activities and you might say, you know what, I need to add a few on there. It’s a vision board. Yeah, creative- If you don’t want to make a list, make a vision board. A vision board of pleasure. A pleasure board. And one of your things may be trying something new, just once, like Jenna said, and then you’re like oh yeah, I need to come up with something new. I made a vision board last night. You made one last night? I did, yeah. Oh I had some friends over. We had games and arts and crafts and it was like a girlfriend’s. Jenna’s having curated parties. It was a curated party, yeah. And like some of us like did arts and crafts and made vision boards. A friend of mine loves making jewelry so she brought some of her jewelry stuff. And then we like all sat down and played like Dominoes for a while and yeah, it was a blast. Very curated. Was this a wife vision board or what I’m saying a pleasure vision board? It was a year vision board. A 2024? Yeah, of things that I want to come into my life and like the things I want to do. Yeah, so kind of I guess it is a pleasure board but for the year. Okay. All right. All right. I like it. I kinda want to see it, but maybe it’s too personal. I’ll show you a photo. If people want to see it, I’ll put it, yeah. A picture it like it’s like a Vacation Bible School felt board. No it’s so much better. Oh it’s better than felt? You don’t have to publish it but if you’re gonna show it to use now we’ll just describe it in general terms. Not trying to publish your personal vision board. I mean there’s nothing- Okay, I’m just gonna describe it. Yes, it’s like cut out felt, it’s felt pieces on like a… You know how felt sticks to felt? And if you’re a child and you go to like Vacation Bible School, if you want to defend yourself, you gotta get back on mic. It’s paper. It’s paper. I would say it’s exactly like a felt. It’s Mod Podge. Vacation Bible… I’m just joking. It’s a collage. It’s pretty damn artsy. There’s some velvet in there. Where did you get these things? It’s like an adult collage. Did you print them out? Yes it is. It is an adult collage, yeah. That’s exactly what I made. And you didn’t leave any white space. I didn’t. Well, it was also the board that I used was something that I used for like a little art thing years ago that, you know, you just keep those boards and you’re like I’m not gonna throw it away, that’s wasteful, so I just like did something over top of it, you know how painters always painted over their masterpieces with another masterpiece? I’m comparing myself to a masterpiece painter right now. But it makes sense if like your own vision should be replaced by your new vision. Yeah, yeah. I love it. Yeah, it’s Mod Podge collage and there’s a… Mod Podge collage. And in Pasadena there’s a used arts and crafts store where you can go and get like super inexpensive like anything you need arts and crafts. Like half a pencil? Yeah. But it’s mostly like, you know, a crayon set that was used like once or twice or like one thing is missing. That totally makes sense. And all of the magazines that I got, I got for free there, and they had a bunch of just like crafting magazines that had really pretty like art and visual stuff. Can you make one of these for me? That kind of defeats the purpose. Well I’ve already given you my list. Yeah, that’s true, you’ve given me the list, and I’ll need color palettes, and yeah, yeah. I mean it’s part of your job. Yeah I’ll make a vision board for you . It’s not like I’m asking you to like- During work hours. Do it as a hobby, you know this is- You will be paid for it. You will be paid for it. That’s a good service, you know? All right well I think that’s my rec now, get Jenna to make you a vision board. Okay, all right. No it’s not. Congratulations on your party, man. Congratulations on your snowboarding. Oh gosh, I wish I could do both. I wish I could be two places at once. Snowboard and party at the same time. Well, maybe that’s what we do. We’ll talk at you next week. In the mean time, call us and leave us a voicemail. About anything. That basically you’re daring us to respond. Oh okay. 1-888- EARPOD1. Hey Rhett and Link, this is Richard from South Carolina. I just want to say I heard Rhett mention to eat raw broccoli whenever you have the opportunity, and I just want to say I appreciate you saying that because me and my wife are eating more raw broccoli than we ever have before. Thank you.