Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, I’m going to make sure he’s okay. Uh, I’m going to talk a little bit about my pre Valentine’s date and we’re going to solve some problems. Including how to deal with a close acquaintance who is a conspiracy theorist. Ewwwww. Wow. So how are you, man? You’re not better. You’re just here. I’m, well, I’m better than I was. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn’t be here if I wasn’t. If I wasn’t better, but I am it just says I’m not good man I mean, I’m better and I’m on the come up. Uh huh, but getting sick twice I mean you got sick twice in one month and I haven’t gotten sick, but twice in five years, before this, before this, and I’m like. It’s a relapse. What is happening? Is it the same sickness? I don’t think so. I don’t, I don’t think so. I don’t think that’s how it works. You’re just, you’re immune system’s not. I had a good three weeks of health, and the symptoms were different, and I thought I had beat it. I thought I had beat it. But then you joined it. Because right before we went to Sundance, I was like, I feel a little scratchy in the throat. And I said, I am not getting sick. And we went to Sundance, and I was fine. Had a job to do. And then I got back, and Shepard had fallen. He had succumbed to it. Which is not unusual. You know the kids, they get everything. And so he was, he was dropping, dropping, dropping out of school. He didn’t drop out of school. He just didn’t go to school. Wow. You got to be real sick if you’re going to do all that. For a few days. And, uh, yeah, man, it slowly, it just got me. And then I can’t, then I, then we did, we worked again on Friday. And then on Saturday, it just like, it just body slammed me. Fever. Well, we missed you last episode. Me and Jenna held down the fort. What did you think of the show? I thought it was great. Yeah, I thought that the tiktok clips that I have watched. Oh, whoa now hold on. Really. What about that? What about every moment of the entire episode? Well, you know I’m, I’m, I’m the kind of mythical fan where I I just watch the clips, you know I’m saying why watch the whole thing when you can see the best parts, it’s just like when you’re watching sports on YouTube TV and you watch the key plays, you know, you watch the key plays. Whatever. It’s just, it was just, it was pretty magical. I thought I mean, I don’t know about you Jenna, but Yeah it was life changing. It was great. I feel like we saved lives. Yeah. Yeah. And I’m going to tell you right now, you, you just, you just don’t want to feel threatened. That’s okay. I understand. That’s why I haven’t listened to it. I understand. Um, I’ve gotten, uh, Lincoln on some of your, uh, reading recommendations or at least pushing reading still. Okay. So what about the, the Fantasy Boys? No, hold on. You can’t ask questions if you, you didn’t, you didn’t listen to the episode. Yeah. So we’re not gonna give you. That didn’t make it into a highlight. Not all the highlights are out yet as we’re recording this. Okay. That’s right. Jamie, is that gonna be in the highlights? Yes, there actually is a. Okay, great. I’ll wait for it. That’s right. Um, yeah, I’m, I’m not sick, but I, if I, I keep thinking I’m gonna get it from you and I’m gonna be mad about it. You, if you didn’t get it, when we. Hey, I’m going to Vegas this weekend. We were recording an episode of GMM and I know for a fact that we licked the same items more than one episode. And that was five days ago. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You fought it off, man. That’s right. You impressed? Yeah. Mm hmm. Cause I, cause like I said, I can’t, I can’t be, I can’t be not going on my Vegas trip. Well, I’ve been telling Barbara that we are, that we’re bouncing back because Barbara’s bouncing back. I don’t know if you know about this. That’s right! Give us a Barbara update too. Uh, so Barbara got fat this year and you know, uh, we’re keeping it positive, you know, we’re like, okay, if that’s the way you want to live your life, do it, Barbara. Uh, but it turns out that, uh, it was, we thought that we were overfeeding her and but then we were like. Lots of treats in your house. So I was like, yeah, y’all might need to cut back on them treats. Okay, well, okay. That’s what I thought. We don’t do, we don’t do any treats except for when they go out to use the bathroom. And I’m usually the only one to do that. What about the whipped cream on the floor? That is like a two times a month. Mm hmm. I, listen, we were just in here, oh, I’m about to call your [bleep] out. We were just in here. You got your dogs here today. You’re sitting there eating your lunch, and you’re just taking pieces of your lunch and throwing it on the floor and your dogs are eating it. Jasper, he’s in the corner right now. I have never, I have had my dog I don’t do that at home. Barbara for ten years. He’s eating something right now. I have never once fed her off of my plate. I don’t do that crap, man. No, I don’t feed. No, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t occasionally get on the table and eat off the plate. I don’t feed him off my plate, but he’s eating something out of the corner of the room. What are you eating? I brought him in this morning because I didn’t, and I well, we’ll get back to Barbara, but, um, I didn’t take him for a walk this morning. He’s, yep, he’s mad at me. Cause I went for a bike ride. And so then I’m like. Put him in a basket. I’ll bring you to I gave up on the basket. I’ll bring you to work, and that’ll make you happy. He doesn’t seem happy. He doesn’t seem happy. Because even when he came to work, he, like, he, he went over on the other couch and sat down and faced away from me. He seems upset right now. He’s mad that he missed his walk, because I do it every single morning, and, but I got to, listen, I need some me time to go for a bike ride, and you can’t come, and I’m sorry, but you can wait till tomorrow to get a walk, okay? Oh, he still loves me. Oh, he forgives me. That’s why you can’t walk him every day, because you, they get used to it. Uh, anyway, back to my dog, who is overweight. Um, so, Yeah. It turns out that it had nothing to do with her diet, because she’s been eating exactly the same diet for, Nine years or whatever, but we started noticing that I was like she feels heavier and they were like, yeah, she’s like up to 25 pounds in her prime. She was 15. Mm hmm, and it’s hard to tell on a furry dog yeah, and then she’s like moving slow and like she’s not jumping up on the bed anymore I’m like, she’s nine, which is what 63 and dog ears and I’m like that doesn’t see it doesn’t seem right and we would take her to the vet and they would be like, Well, just make sure you’re not overfeeding her, whatever. They did some blood work and she has some sort of thyroid issue. So there’s some sort of hormonal imbalance that has been creating the lethargy and the weight gain. Did dogs go through menopause? Well, probably. Link, they may, but that is not what’s happening to Barbara. Oh, okay. Well, I don’t mean to turn the rumor mill. They’ve been, she’s been fixed. Yeah, yeah, she doesn’t, yeah. So, um, Anyway, so we gave her the, the, the drugs and then They said it’ll be a few weeks. She’ll be back. And I was like, Barbara, we are coming back harder than ever. Yes. Got sick twice at the beginning of the year. I’m getting it all out of the way at the beginning of the year. Barbara and I are going to be jumping on everything. Yes. Every piece of furniture we got, we’re going to be jumping on it. Have you observed any changes yet? Well, we started yesterday. Okay. Alright. So it’s just mental changes. I’m just telling her she’s coming back. Well, that’s why I got on my bike today. I was like, I have to do something else to, to position myself in a more positive headspace. I got, I’ve got to get stuff. I’ve got to exert myself to a new level. Just as a brah, do about the air quality? Nothing. You gonna have a Bane mask? I didn’t think about that. You can’t do it all, man. Stop making me think about things. I’m on my bike again. That’s good. You’re saying I shouldn’t be riding my bike? No, no, no. I’m just saying that, like, every couple of days, the air quality is, like, bad in L. A. And I’m like, what? Out of nowhere? And then they’re talking about the air quality’s bad even if it doesn’t show up as bad. Even if it doesn’t seem bad? Yeah, because the AQI doesn’t measure, like, the toxic stuff that’s blowing around from the fires. It just, like, measures some other things, which are somewhat related. There’s no fires right now. Let’s just say that. There’s no fires. Okay. Well, yeah, but I just want to be clear. But there’s all the shit that’s on the ground that blows up in the air and stuff. Yeah. Yesterday, the air definitely smelled not great. I didn’t smell much this morning. I I didn’t. Yeah, yeah, well, okay, so I made I did not. I decided to get an air quality monitor in my house. And, I have learned some things. So, we got one for, we got one of those, um, you know, there’s the Purple Air that Mike told us about. I, it’s, when you go on the website, people who choose to share their readings, they can pop up anonymously so you can, like, get air quality readings. But I just got one for the inside of my home. Uh, which you can if you want. You can put onto the map. I didn’t because I just got it for myself. Mm hmm. Um, but, the cool thing about it is, is that the same color coding system that is on the chart, the spectrum that’s on, like, the weather app. Mm hmm. Is the color that the monitor turns in your house. So it’s just this, like, little thing that looks like a mouse. Like a, you know, like a computer mouse. Oh. And It glows. If it’s green you’re good. And then if it’s a little bit yellow green, you know, and it literally covers the spectrum of all the colors. Hmm. What have you observed? Well, I have observed that two alarming things. The first alarming thing is we’ve cooked twice. On our gas stove, like Jesse fried up some bacon and we also cooked something, some shrimp or something both times. Uhhuh, it turned burgundy. So that’s, and then I looked and it was at pretty low, 275. Pretty low. Whatcha talking about? I mean, pretty bad. Yeah, I mean, high and bad. Low means bad is what I meant. But high, well, low means good with the higher the number, the worst, the, the, the, you know what I mean? Turn it around 275, meaning like. If you were outside, you would want to get inside. All people of all health levels exposed to this for more than an hour would experience problems. Like, when you cook inside your house, Where is the monitor in reference to your stove? The monitor is in the dining room on the little buffet little thing. So like, in the next room. Now, our like, exhaust fan doesn’t work great. Yeah, it should, is what we’re learning. Uh, yeah. How quickly did it dissipate though? Cause I mean, when you fry bacon, it, you gotta open the windows sometimes. Well, it took about 90 minutes. Maybe two hours for it to become green again, and I was like damn really like this has been happening my whole life Huh, yeah, and also, you know it’s gonna be illegal in California to build a home and have a gas stove in it because they’re finding all the particulates that come out of your and go into the air especially for young children are really bad and so they’re encouraging a lot of people to switch to convection, which if, if we ever get a new, I think we are going to get a new oven, new stove, I think we’re going to do convection. But the chefs love the gas. Yeah, but you can pretty much do everything with convection, and I think you just gotta, I mean, I don’t know, it’s for your health. That’s the first alarming thing. The second alarming thing that I learned. I wasn’t signing up for alarming things at all. Yeah, good. Today. Sometimes, you know what? Sometimes you don’t get a trigger warning, you know, because life doesn’t come with trigger warnings, right? Okay, Link. Here’s the thing. When It got bad outside. Now for the, when I, I set this thing up and we put, we had like four air purifiers in the house. I got it down to one. Well, I couldn’t get it down to zero. I got it to one. Okay. It’s very good. But it was pretty good outside. It was like 40 outside. But then, we took the air purifier out of the room. Where the monitor was and the air quality got up to like 150 over the weekend and I, and I looked at the air quality. I looked at the monitor and it was yellowish green and it was at like 45 inside. And I went to that back door, you know, we have those French doors in the back. Yeah. There’s a gap. It’s like coming in like, like somebody’s blowing on you. It’s, it’s, it’s crazy. Like if, if it was like a nuclear situation and we had radiation in the air, we’d be screwed. And then I started noticing, then I get crazy and I go around to all the doors and I realize that all these fancy metal, you know, Jessie is, she’s a designer, so she’s got these fancy metal double doors, I mean, they’re stout. You can get through them with a tank, but they don’t close exactly as tight as, and so there’s multiple places in our house that are not airtight. And then this brings me back to what I was saying with your, your bike out there breathing in the bad air. So I’ve got an elliptical coming because my, I’ve done the rower and the rower has messed my back up and I just, I can’t do it. Okay. And so I was like, well, I’m just going to start. I was like, I’m going to get rid of the, the, uh, rower and I’m just going to walk. But then this happened with the air quality. Oh God. And so I’ve got the elliptical coming. It’s going to be in the garage so I can do more cardio because I do, I’m good about everything but cardio. Cardio is hard. But then I start looking at my garage door. Yep. And like, I’ve got the, uh, the cable to charge the car just goes underneath the door. You know, I don’t have it like set up outside. That’s a gap maker. It’s a gap. And then there’s gaps on the side. You can see, I can see people out of the gap. So I am rerouting the electrical system to charge the car outside so that it plugs in outside. Oh, you’re on a mission now. And I am having a guy come to weather seal, because you can weather seal the garage, weather seal in the garage. Putting the air purifier in the garage. So when I’m on the elliptical, I’m breathing zero, maybe zero to five. Why don’t you just wear a gas mask? Well, because then it really is hard to breathe. All I’m saying is That’s good training though. We’ve been breathing this air in for however many years, 13, 14 years and, uh, Locke pays attention to all this stuff, and he’s like, I’m worried about you guys. There’s a lot of people moving their families out of L. A. because of this. And I’m like, yeah, you’re right, man. So, I’m like, I’m not gonna go crazy over this. I’m just taking, I’m taking these precautions. And then I’m doing the thing. I’m just, I’m just saying, you should look at the air quality before you go out into the bike. We got some air purifiers to put in the house. Can we turn them on? Yeah. Okay, good. And they, one of them has a measurement on it, and it goes on and off depending on what’s happening. Yeah. So, I need to pay more attention to that. But the thing that, Getting used to having air purifiers around has been difficult for me because I’m like, I go into a room and like, what’s that noise? There’s a draft in here. It’s like I hear the fan going, but it sounds like a window’s opening and there’s like something spewing in. It’s like the exact opposite of what I want. And so it’s a big distraction to me. And then I’m, I’m, I’m watching some sort of entertainment and I’m like, well, we got this freaking fan going back here. That’s a problem. I’ve noticed that. You gotta, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s fan noise happening. You gotta turn it off when you watch a movie. That’s right. And wear a gas mask. Gas mask. If you run the air purifiers and you seal your house nicely, once you clear it, as long as you’re in there, you’re probably good. I assume they have, like, these whole house filters. I mean, there is a, you put the filters on that air conditioner that are like, HEPA filters and stuff. It just stresses your HVAC system. Much more than, like, one that isn’t that good. Yeah. There’s so many things to worry about. Don’t drive yourself crazy with it. But I’m just saying. Take some precaution and then live your life. I’m just taking some precaution. But the main thing is, especially after getting sick twice at the top of the year, I’m like, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta bounce back. Me and Barbara gotta bounce back. I know. I’m trying to bounce back too, man. That’s it. But I gotta ride that bike, so I gotta figure out something. All you gotta do is just don’t go out when it’s like over a hundred. It’s usually not that bad. You’ll probably be fine. The good thing is, is that we don’t have babies. Like if I, not to make you worried if you have a baby in LA, but like if I had young kids right now, but I kind of feel like I got a 16 year old. That’s my youngest one. It’s just like, he’s probably whatever’s going to happen is going to happen, you know, like in terms of like what he’s breathed in. And so he’s through the develop, the, the, the core developmental stages. And so, yeah. But I don’t know what I would be a little bit. I wasn’t one of those parents that freaked out a lot about their kids. Now I gotta start looking at that. Purple. But people are just like, it’s the other things. I’m sure y’all know about this, but. 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And, um, you know, Lily and I have an annual tradition to go on a Valentine’s date each year. Of course, last year I think we ended up going in August. Cause now she, she doesn’t live at home, it’s, it’s just kind of, uh, it’s kind of a crapshoot how, when our schedules are going to line up. But she was talking to me about coming back home, and she was like, hey, we could go ahead and get a head start on Valentine, our Valentine’s Day. And I was like, yes, let’s do that. So we’ve already, we, we, we just celebrated our Valentine’s Day this past Saturday. What’d you do? We, um. I took her to Andy’s, which is this, um, restaurant, bar, slash, club in West Hollywood that is started by Anderson Paak. Recent Grammy winner, uh, and no worries. Good album. Um, What did he win for? Uh, Best R& B, alternative R& B album, I think is what it was. But yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s, uh, he, it, when he’s in that band, it’s him and another guy named Knowledge, and they’re called No Worries, together. And they have an album called Yes Lord, from a few years ago, and then this latest one is called Why Lord. Oh, you played me some of that. I played you some of that. It’s good. You liked it. Anyway, this is his spot and it’s brand new, like five months old and started following him on Instagram, and it just seems like a fun seventies lounge vibe. Lighting in the ceiling, cool furniture, bar central, then a big, uh, floor level stage with like. Lighting on the ceiling going to it. It’s just cool. They have like live music and and DJs so I’ve been really wanting to go I knew that Lily would love it. So we went there We got reservations at 7 and then you know, we could only keep the table for an hour and a half They’re doing that now because people will come or they want to turn over to the table twice and then they start having like the band shows up and then it becomes more of a club. So we could have waited for another hour and a half there to like for the for the band to come out. And, um, I felt like Anderson Paak might show up. I’m sure he does from time to time. Um, he does. Shows up a lot. But then we opted, I mean it was, it was good. It was a really cool place. Uh, I recommend it. We should go back. And if you get the, the later reservation you can, then you’re more likely to be able to stay and just like, have a few drinks. Hang out until it turns into a party like later on that night They’re like right lined up around the block to get in but if you get in early enough You can kind of just stay in there, but not at a table and I mean we weren’t really keen on Continuing to drink honestly, so we’re like we’re not gonna hang out for this We can go back home and hang out and I was like, let’s just walk down Let’s walk down the street. Let’s see if we can find the Pink Pony Club. Chapel Rowan has a song about. I’m aware of it. The Pink Pony Club in West Hollywood. Yep. Turns out it’s not really there. I was gonna say, I didn’t think it was real. Yeah, it’s fictional. Okay. Um, but the spirit of the Pink Pony Club is very much alive and well in West Hollywood, my friend. And, I’ve Did, did, did your daughter not know that it was fictitional? Yeah, she knew. I was Um, I I said let’s search for it metaphorically is really what I was saying. Because I thought she would have, she would have corrected you on that pretty quickly. Like in joint, I, I just wanted to like, I, it’s like, let’s just see what’s going on down here, you know? Um, what’s going on is a lot of gay people having good times. Yep. A lot of queer people having amazing times. And Hey, we’re cool with that. So we’re walking around, people, people recognizing me, coming up to me, think, wondering some things, but then just like, knowing that they were fans and that’s cool. Wondering some things? I don’t know, maybe, maybe if, if, if I was uh, if I was not just an advocate, but one of them. Well, you were with a woman. I was. Who was your daughter? It was my daughter, though. It seems like she, if she, you know, well, he’s with a younger woman. I did feel They may have concluded something. I did feel they needed to tell our waitress It’s my daughter, it’s my daughter. It’s my daughter, and then it got, I don’t know, it felt weirder saying it than not, but, I don’t know, I just wanted to clarify. I guess the way that I said it was a little Maybe Carringe. This is my daughter, this is our valentine. Sounds like it. I don’t know, I’m not the best at that. We’re walking down the street, people having the best of times. Spilling out all types of bars and stuff. And then, we hear someone on a Loudspeaker from inside as we’re walking by this club and we hear them say if you’re a fan of Shoot what’s her name? What is the singer’s name? Oh, we’re walking by and we hear someone say if you’re a fan of Ethel Cain or Dochi, and Lily’s like a huge fan of Ethel Cain. She told me about her. Not as much my thing, but Dochi, of course, is very much my thing. So like, we were both like, whaaa? And we both like, turned at the same time and just went into this club like, Alright, there’s gonna be some sort of show. Drag show. But not featuring actual Dochi. No. Featuring dra and we knew this once we started paying the cover charge. This is People are looking like that. This is a drag show. They’re lip syncing to these songs. Which Ethel Cain is an interesting thing to To lip sync. To lip sync to. Low tempo. And of course Years ago, probably our most epic Valentine date was going to Hamburger Mary’s, uh, the two of us to watch like a preeminent drag show. It was amazing. It actually led to me, uh, going drag on the mythical society. Right? I don’t know if going drag is the proper nomenclature. It just dragging. You’ll, I’m dragging. I dragged it. I drug, I drug it, I drug it, and. Many people dug it. Anyway, so we go in there and we see all types of performances, uh, including, but not limited to, um, one queen dressed up as Ariel the Little Mermaid. And she was, you know how Ariel, like, pulls things out of her Um, not really. It’s different. It was more danceable than that. The legs came apart. I do remember that. Okay. Okay. You know, in a way that a mermaid cannot do, I think that’s kind of important for the show. Yeah. Yeah. The legs can come apart, they can wrap around poles. We were just having a, a blast. I mean, it’s like, it’s over the top. Entertainment. I love it. And uh, and then afterward. Ariel comes up to me, starts talking to me. Ariel’s a long time, uh, mythical fan. I was like, well, you’re my favorite, tonight, anyway. I definitely liked you a lot better than the one that brought out a baby. You don’t have to do that. And it was like, there was a witch, but then there was another person that was like, with a baby, and then the baby, she was doing laundry. Then she drowned the baby in the laundry bucket. And it was like very dark and weird and just an Ethel Kane song. Wild. Honestly, I don’t know. Okay. ’cause that makes sense. I don’t think so. I don’t think so. It was a Doci song. It was that go to sleep. Oh. From Oh Brother, where Art th It’s like you never know what you’re gonna get. Wow. I guess sometimes you gotta go dark so you can go light. That’s right. And she didn’t have, I am talking about toast now. She, um. It was not Lily’s birthday, but they made it her birthday and she went on stage. Oh, and everybody sang to her. So it was a special night. I mean, Lily and I, we will find our way into a drag show. It’ll just happen. It’s like a magnet for us. It’s just so funny. We had a great time. That was it. Nothing went sideways. Nothing, um, nothing to complain about. All good. But I recommend walking around West Hollywood sometimes. You never know who It’s a bunch of friendly people. It’s been a while since I did that, but I did notice there’s quite a few Mythical Beasts down there. Mm hmm. I love that. The, uh, I’m assuming you watch. I mean, I don’t know when this is coming out. I know you watch the Grammys. I watched, I watched a good amount of it. Um, I was, I felt like the fact that I had been properly introduced to Dochi Yeah. Before she had her moment. Which is awesome. I appreciated that. Um, I also, it seemed to me Uh huh. That In a positive way, there’s much more live performances than the last time I watched it. Am I wrong about that? It felt that way to me too, yeah. They stacked performances. I was like, this feels like something that is viable. Unlike the other times that I’ve watched it. Yeah. Because I was like, Trevor Noah’s not really trying too hard. Right. He knows that it’s not about him. He’s just like, I’m going to pump these people up, say one little line. I don’t think Trevor was ever on stage. I didn’t see the beginning. It’s interesting, like right from the start, I mean the fires kind of made it, and he kept talking about how tonally it was interesting and like emotional and was kind of going to lots of different places, um, but yeah, they made the choice for him to pretty much never be on stage, so it wasn’t. It had a different vibe. He’s just kind of moving things along. I just thought that was a good choice I like him and I liked him and then they let everybody everybody in like a category perform really quickly. Yeah Um, benson boone won a lot of people over a lot of ladies over. Oh, yeah. Yeah interesting. Is he Is he country or what now? I know that’s a nebulous turn. I don’t think so I mean, I only know that one song but I don’t think so. I didn’t know. I don’t know him at all So I was like well, could he? And he has a mustache. Maybe that’s why I’m asking the question. I don’t think he’s country. Okay. But I don’t know any other music. Okay, well, let’s get into some questions so we can solve problems. Hey Rhett and Link, uh, I’m Charlotte, and I would love your advice on something. I just met a conspiracy theorist for the first time ever, and I’m not really sure how to handle it. Um, he’s, like, one of my neighbors in my apartment building, and I, you know, we’ll see each other in the building and, like, have little chats and small talk and whatever. But recently we got into a longer conversation. Where he revealed that he believes the earth is flat and believes in something called the Tartarian era, where like ancient civilizations, like, had wireless connection through the ether or something. I don’t know. Um, and I thought he was joking at first, but then I quickly realized he was like dead serious. Um, and I. Didn’t really know how to respond. I sort of tried to challenge him with some science, but he would just like shoot it down, and he basically believes that scientists and the government are lying to us. So I’m, I’m just not really sure how to handle this or respond. Um, he said, hey, look into it, you know, and next time I see you, let me know what you think. And, uh, yeah, I’m just not really sure what to say, because I’m definitely gonna run into him again, inevitably. So, um, yeah, let me know what you think. Wow. Now, when we first moved here, did you not have a conspiracy theorist neighbor at the apartment next to you in Los Feliz? I think he was in the, yeah, he had like a, uh, I don’t remember what he was into. He had papers on the wall. He had a, um, he hung things over his balcony so that you could see it from the street. Oh. Anybody who does that is already Like posters? Or like banners. Like he would write something on a sheet and it would hang over for weeks at a time. Yeah. You know? That’s the kind of person. The earth is as flat as this sheet. I don’t know what he was, I didn’t, I don’t know what he thought. You didn’t engage. I didn’t engage. Uh, he was, I mean, I don’t remember if I even talked to him, you know, I just kind of knew that he had the thing up there. She has engaged, and he said. Check it out. Let me know what you think. Well, this is, I love this stuff, by the way. You know, I love this stuff. So you’re jealous of her. Um, well, I have so many thoughts. But the main thing I want to tell you is, before we get into, like, how we can help Charlotte, Uh huh. is, uh, I don’t know why, I don’t know what it is about my, the way my mind works that I’m just attracted to people talking about this kind of stuff. So you know what this guy believes. Oh yeah, the tar stuff. But what is that? I don’t, well, okay. Tell me what you’re gonna tell. So the, the, the thing that is the most fascinating thing to me, so I don’t, well, first of all, I can’t stand just to, to have a conspiracy theory, just. Blabber on about stuff. What I like is when people who actually have who are following like rational thinking and critical thinking and facts are like debunking it. Like I like to watch that kind of thing. Okay. And there’s a guy who has a YouTube channel. It’s called Professor Dave Explains, I think is the name of it. And, uh, He, his style is, uh, it’s not really the way I would go about it, in terms of like, He, he basically is just like unapologetically, caustically, just kind of taking these guys down. Which is very fun to watch. But he just doesn’t pull, he doesn’t pull any punches, which again, There’s a time and a place for that. So I am in support of that. I don’t know everything that the guy thinks and you know, i’m not saying I endorse all of his opinions It’s just the the videos that i’ve watched where he is like taking down flat earthers are some of my favorite Okay, he gets irritated with him. Yeah, and he’s like a legit like scientist professor, right and He just, just has no, but like, he’s doing the work because to go into these guys minds and their philosophy and their whole approach and like systematically break it down, it takes so much patience and so much time. Mm hmm. So I really appreciate the service that he is doing. But something Absolutely fascinating happened in the Flat Earth community. And I don’t know if this has happened before. I don’t follow it closely enough to know, but it’s just, it blew me away. So, You’re not going to talk about Kyrie Irving, are you? No, that was, that’s old news. So, obviously, the idea that the Earth is flat has been around for a long time. Uh, For most of us, that got corrected when we realized it wasn’t flat, but there’s still quite a few people who believe that it is flat. And, you know, in the age of dis and misinformation, it has grown. This is becoming popular. Like, people that you would have thought are Intelligent and relatively informed are suddenly like I think the earth is flat which it would have been like what 20 years ago And now it’s not that uncommon so there’s this movement of people and there’s enough of them that they have like Organizations and they’ve got spokespeople and there’s personalities and there’s people with youtube channels and stuff And I don’t know the circumstances But somebody who had enough money and enough interest in this subject Decided people who believe in that the earth is flat They believe that You know, Antarctica is an ice wall. So if you were to take the earth. And this is, like, here’s the globe and here’s Antarctica, but if you were to, like, take the whole thing and flatten it out. So every time everyone goes away from the center to the south, they all run into ice. But they’re just running into, Earth is a disk, right? And you’re running into an ice wall. I may be messing some of this up. Sounds like Game of Thrones. Yeah, but one of the things that has to be true according to the flat earth theory is that There’s not a place on Earth where, especially at the ice wall at the south part, where the sun would be up for 24 hours, right? Mm hmm. The sun has to do whatever the sun does. I don’t know where the sun goes on the other side of the disc. I don’t know how it works. Yeah. Or the sun is on the firmament. I don’t know how it works. But they believe that the sun cannot be up for 24 hours. But obviously, because of the way that the Earth is tilted on its axis, There are times during our winter or our summer in which the sun never goes down in the north and there are times during the winter that the, or in winter that the sun never goes down in the south. So, ostensibly, you could take someone who believed in the flat earth theory to the South Pole, take them to Antarctica, and let them observe the 24 hours and it would debunk their theory. So this guy paid to have at least two flat earthers go to Antarctica. He paid for a trip. Oh, really? And all these flat earthers Hold on, the guy, the doctor Not Professor Dave. Not Professor Dave. Professor Dave made a video about this. Some other guy, I don’t know who it is. He paid To send them down there. Hey, just look for yourself and they were thinking Yes, this is what I will not see when I go down there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And of course they they constantly think they’re being tricked, right? Like the the flat earth community thinks that everything is deceptive and so they’re like what a way to live tracking the flight to make sure that it’s going from like patagonia to You know, Antarctica the whole time, and the guys are in the plane with their compasses, making sure that it’s pointing south the whole time. Like, don’t fly us to some place that ain’t actually Antarctica. The whole thing was documented? Yeah, but I’m just watching Dave’s video about the video. I don’t, I didn’t watch the whole video. And so, they’re on this live stream, and the sun’s up for 24 hours. Obviously, because that’s how the world works. And then, basically they just start saying, Well, You know, sometimes you just have to admit that you are wrong, not about the earth being flat, mind you, but about the sun being up for 24 hours. It’s like, something about our theory must be wrong. Yeah. Right? But then the wildest thing happens in the flat earth community. All the people in the flat earth community start saying that these guys who went down there are paid shills and that they are traitors. And so there’s this whole thing about So they’re acting, they’re, they’re counter agents. Yeah, they got paid off or whatever. Okay, and then there’s this whole thing about how they think they’re saying these guys didn’t actually go to Antarctica this is all done on green screen and the way The way that they did it the way that they said it was The guy who was filming had his chroma key thing turned on because when he used He just has like the chroma key setting on his camera turned on all the time So like anything that was green was like showing up as clear not being there except the background Which, pfft, was Antarctica. And so they made this whole, so then the guys who went down there, who were being accused of being shills, have to make a series of videos explaining how they are not on a green screen. So they got drones, and they’ve got two drones, and they’re like passing the drones by each other, and they’re on two different live streams, and then another guy takes all of the footage from the different drones and the different live streams, and puts it side by side, and he’s like, guys, they’re actually there. All of this to say, Charlotte, These people are not interested in the truth. They are not interested in the truth. That was my question. Yeah. Is, what do you know is, what are they anchored to? Like, Anti establishment. Okay, because, I know from a religious standpoint what I was anchored to. That’s like, you hold on to certain, When you get, like, counter, Evidence and you don’t want to that disrupts your theory or that debunks it you just you just want to say well There’s got to be another explanation right because you’re you’re anchored to something like we were so what are they’re anchored to anti establish? Well, there’s a there’s a lot of great books about this like why people believe why people believe crazy things or something I Well, I think that the main thing is that There is just a belief that the official narrative about everything is a deception, right? And so it doesn’t matter that when you start thinking about what would be required in order to pull this deception off and what would be the motivation and like then look and then and then obviously like you’re observing things that prove that this is wrong, but you can’t accept it like. It’s kind of what we talked about when we were talking about this whole thing about the direct energy weapons with the fires. It’s like critical thinking didn’t get you there. And so to like when you when you talk charlotte when you talk about i’m engaging him with science, it’s like no no no no because Yeah, you’re just all you’re doing in his mind is you’re just you know regurgitating the status quo the narrative that you’ve been taught Do your own research, right? And there’s this, so what do you do? What do you do? I mean, first of all, I just think that we, like, we kind of have to like think about like, if you think about your kids, you just gotta teach them, you gotta teach them critical thinking, like. Or like we’re really bad at that, right? We’re really bad at thinking about this critically because the thing is, is like, these people aren’t, it’s not a question, it’s not intelligence. It’s not a question of intelligence. A lot of these guys are smarter than the average person, like their ability to like immediately like silence you with some point is, it’s like the average person is like, I can’t argue with this. It’s just, I actually believe what the people that we’ve, we’ve, as a society, we have selected these people to study this full time, And this is what they have discovered, and we trust them. That’s a certain type of person. That’s me. Right? I’m like, I’m not smart enough, it’s like, I, I think I’m smart enough to sort of evaluate the flat earth thing and be like, There’s a lot of things that don’t really match up here. But, I think that, It’s not a question of like, breaking out the science. I think, First of all, I think it’s good to be friends. That’s the thing I’ll say. Yeah, I’m interested in finding a way to be friends, and I think there might have to be some, like, non derogatory entertainment that you, that you find. It’s like, you know, when you disagree with people that are your friends, you can, there’s some gentle ribbing that can go on, you know? I think it’s like, once you establish, listen, I’m not with you on this, and I’d, let’s, you know, next time you see, and then you establish it, it’s like, I don’t I’m not going to try to change your mind, you don’t try to change my mind. But next time I see you, I’m just going to say, You walked off the edge of the earth yet? You hit the ice wall? Yeah, I think that, I think that, ultimately what I’m saying is, Just have a little fun with it. I think that maintaining, I think that maintaining the relationship if you can, Like, I mean, don’t, you know, if you don’t feel safe or whatever, I don’t know the situation, but I’m just saying that like, I don’t think it’s, I think we have to be able to maintain a friendship with people who believe crazy things because, It’s like, it’s, it’s very easy. We all, we all, it’s very easy. Have the, have the ability. I believe I believed a lot of crazy things. I still probably do believe a lot of crazy things. It’s like believing crazy things can’t be a prerequisite. Yeah. You know, for, for not being friends with somebody. I like that. But I think that, I don’t know if you wanted to have like a real con, like if I was close friends with somebody who believed this, then I mean, the question I would ask is like. You know, what, how is what you believe falsifiable? Like, what? Falsifiable. Falsifiable. What can I show you that’s gonna make you change your mind? Because most of these things are unfalsifiable. Most conspiracy theories are unfalsifiable. Most, and like, honestly, like most, um, Most faiths, religious faiths are unfalsifiable. It’s like, you, I’m not, doesn’t make faith wrong. It just means that like, Is there something I could show you? That would change your mind about this. Like, what would it take? Is there something that you can be shown? Because if you say that if I go down to Antarctica, if somebody pays me to go down to Antarctica, the 35, that it takes to get to Antarctica, and I see that the sun doesn’t go down, would that make you? Well, it didn’t make those guys stop believing. They just think that they’ve gotta now adjust their theory. It’s like the people who are sure that the world is gonna end on a very particular date. When it never happens, according to the prophecy of that particular cult, do the people, do the cult, does the cult dissolve? Never. There’s never. It never dissolves. Because the, the cult does not exist. Because of truth the cult exists because of belonging the cult exists because of all these other Psychological dynamics that make people feel like they have purpose, you know And I think that’s a big part of this thing is it’s like, you know What we had to some extent we have been lied to sometimes the official narratives are deceptive, you know Sometimes there are institutions can’t be trusted that But what that turns into is that like all institutions are corrupt, the, you know, the status quo narrative is always wrong and we have to develop these theories and sometimes people get in so deep and there’s just, there’s nothing you, there’s like, if there’s nothing you can do to take somebody, if there’s nothing you could show them, it’s like, right there, there’s another video of, of, they did the thing where the guys, you know, cause technically if you, if the earth is curved, If the earth is flat, then if you are six feet off the ground, if there’s a light that’s six feet off the ground and then a few miles away, there’s Like a receiver up, uh, a pole with a hole in it, and you can see like the light come through at the same height, I’m missing up, messing up the details in the distances, but essentially there was a flat earther who was out there and saw that like, Oh shit, like it’s not coming through because the earth is curved. And he like questioned him. He didn’t question his idea. He questioned the methods. He was something must have. I must have screwed something up. Yeah, because it’s not about like wanting to actually know it’s why I think it is important to know this so that you’re not just going to try to deconvert or convert somebody, you know, unless you are qualified, like, like the guy that you shouted out. I think it’s just a mission of like, be, be kind. And amused like I think I think there’s like some some delicate place in your. You know, and it’s doesn’t have to be a deep friendship, but I like where you’re going with this It’s like listen people who we’re all different and we all got our things that we can discover about each other I’d be like, are you serious? This is part of who you are part of your belief system or your worldview or your practice or whatever It’s like, you know, it was let’s find a way to be kind yet. I think for your own sanity Amused. Lighten it up a little bit. And if you’re going to talk about it, And then move on. If you’re going to talk about it, ask questions. Don’t argue. Like, don’t argue. Don’t bring up the points that he’s already heard. Like, ask questions. Like, let the theory implode. Let the, let the fact that he kind of probably doesn’t If you’re into that. Really know, like, the Tart, the Tartarian thing, I’m not even going to, I can’t think that’s how you say it. Like, I don’t even want to begin on that one, man. It’s f ing crazy. Well, I mean, like, It’s like, gimme the gist. Like what? What preexisting civilization. Okay. That you sell networks. Yeah, like in Advanced Ethernets. In Advanced Civilization that was around and built, like Built everything, I think. Built a lot of stuff. Okay. That’s still here. I’ve only heard, I’ve only, like, heard a little bit of that one. Okay. That’s the best we can do. I like leaving it with the, uh, cautious friendship. Let’s hear another. Hey Rhett and Link. My name is Mallory. Um, I heard your little prompt about guess an accent. And I was just wondering if you guys could guess where I’m from. Um, I’ll give you just a second. I keep, I won’t, I was just wondering to guess where I’m from. From. I’m from. I mean, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say this is a Southern American accent. I, where is she from? I mean, I still feel like I’ve heard some North, many North Carolinians. Who sound like this? I’ve got a, I’ve got a guess on this one. I don’t think it’s, I don’t have a guess yet. I don’t think it’s Deep South. Because I’m, I’m hearing things that I heard growing up. In our best days. Arf! Uh oh. Arf! Get it out, man. Arf! See, I’m getting what you’re, what you’re laying down, man. No, you’re getting it out. You’re getting it out. I’m spewing it out. On a sleeve or something. I agree with that by the way. Tennessee? Kentucky? Kentucky. Kentucky is what I was going to say. Yeah, I think we’re in that area. It could be South Carolina. I think we’re really in that around North Carolina kind of zone. I’m going to say Tennessee. So, unpause it. Let’s see what happens. Okay, I’m from Alabama. I hope you guessed it. Love y’all. Bye! But, northern Alabama or southern Alabama? Cause I feel like that’s, I mean, we need to, if you’re gonna give us your accent, you gotta give me more specifics. You gotta give us a city or something. Well, we need to go back, like we need to get better at this. We’ve been all over the place. Well, I feel like if it’s northern Alabama, that’s not far. We’re not that far off. Well, okay. All right. That’s fun. Yeah, keep it, keep it going. Keep it going. Anywhere in the world. But the Southern accents, we got a special, special place in our heart. But we got, we’re horrible at it though. We’ve gotta like, we’ll watch some videos or like start paying attention to what the people sound like. Well, if we get enough of these, again, you can call us at 1 888 EARPOD1. We can learn. Let’s learn by doing, not by researching. Yeah, yeah, right. You know? That’s it. That’s the ticket right there. Hit it. Hi Rhett and Link, my name is Leslie from upstate New York. So I teach first grade and I love, as I know Rhett does as well, I love to tell my children outlandish lies. I love to tell my class lies that have nothing to do with their education. Some examples of lies I have told them, um, I told them that I lived inside of our smartboard. I told them that my father was Santa Claus, and my favorite one, and the one that they actually believed, is that my middle name is Mammies. So, my question to you, Rhett and Link, are what are some other fun, harmless lies I can tell my first grade students? Thank you guys. Love you guys. Bye! Love this. You’re a great teacher. She sounds like she’s from upstate New York. Yeah, I’m gonna say upstate New York. I couldn’t have said that. That was like, devoid of accent. I am excited for you. The best way to teach kids is to lie about things. Give them, give them, give them that skill of discernment. Of, of critical thinking. By, they gotta parse. By lying to them. By lying to them. You gotta parse, they gotta parse the truth from the lies. And It’s, it’s good to erode a little trust in our, in our teachers. No, I get it. I think you’re, I think you’re in a good lane with like, I’m related to Santa Claus and my middle name is Mayonnaise. This is why I think this is acceptable. Now, I have been a proponent of lying to children, I will say that. Your own especially. Especially my own. Um, but I will say, Are you backtracking on this? Well, no, I’m just saying, when my kids were coming up, man, like, when my kids were little, it was before everybody believed the Earth was flat, man. Like, I’m saying that, like, now, I will say, my kids don’t think the Earth is flat. My kids pretty much know the Earth is a sphere. It’s never been in question for them. So, I can’t say that they’re prone to conspiracy theories. They’re not. But I do think that you’re taking the right angle on this, which is make the lies about yourself. If you start making the lies about anything out in the world, anything external, then you start mixing them up a little bit and they’re going to be like, the reason I think the earth is flat is because my teacher told me that all bats. Had the ability to communicate telepathically or whatever, you know, yeah, that’s gonna that might so I love this Living in the white board the smart board and Santa Claus being your dad. What about this? Yeah, she tells her pupils that she has a Six legged pet deer. Okay, and the and the two extra legs are Just up and out, like field goals almost. Okay. So walk around. It’s not, there’s still the antlers if the, if it’s antler. But there’s, it’s a, it’s a six legged deer, but two of the legs are just decoration basically. I like that there’s blood flow in them. Okay. Um, but they’re locked and they don’t really do anything. They kinda waggle around. They’re not, they, they don’t articulate. Yeah. And it, and she’s named it Sputnik. Well see now you’re getting a little bit, now you’re getting into like world history. Well, space history. Okay. Maybe it rhymes with his butt name, Butt Pick. Butt Pick? Don’t be talking to kids about Butt Pick. Okay, well, I’m just, That’s the first thing I can think of. I’ve got a really good one. I think, you should tell your students, I’m actually not your teacher. I’m I am just another first grader who happened to be here on the first day and it seemed like somebody should start teaching. Pfft. I’ve failed a lot. And then be like I’ve been held back. And then be like, and today, I’m taking the day off, so anyone who wants to take my place today can. And then just sit down and see what happens. That’s fun. Yeah. There you go. And then you get to watch one of them get up and teach. I’m just one of you guys. Yeah, that’s good. Yeah, but I would like to see that six legged deer. Yeah, it’s gonna be hard. I mean, it’s like well, he’s he’s camera shy You know, people come over, he runs and hides, but your thing, oh yeah, that’s a, that’s an experiment, social experiment. You know, it’s like, um, children of the corn, you know, and maybe she’s an English teacher and she can like get them to read that. Children of the corn? Isn’t that the ones where the kids eat? Yeah, it is. Children of the corn. I don’t remember many of the details. What about she went to a doctor and, and there was a, um, there was a baby squirrel in her ear. All of mine are about forest animals. These are pretty harmless, I like that. Yeah. Mine might cause a problem. It was, the tail was bushy, but that was the hardest part to get out. Okay. She’s fine. That, that might strike some fear into the kids. You know, next time they’re thinking to, like, feed a little squirrel at the park, you know. Oh no, it might crawl in my ear. Why, why are you saying that? Because my teacher had a squirrel in her ear when she was my age. Might do a little damage. Is that good? I think it’s pretty good. Okay. Get one of those, uh Whisper two thousandths off of the internet. Yeah, earphones and then the thing where you can hear, you can target hearing long distances. And then tell them that it is a thought reading device. But don’t, and then be like, point it at an individual child. And then just write something down in a notebook. Oh my god, that’s, that’s tremendous. That’s breaking your rule, because that’s not about the, that’s not about her. It’s tough for me to maintain the balance, man. Right. When given this prompt. Yeah, you’ve gone off the deep end. I would just want to have so much fun. Um, what about, um, she, she wants Ferret that, okay. Another animal. Okay. Could say the word. Uh, crikey. It was an Australian ferret. Okay. Okay. Uh, it’s not as good as your first two. Okay. They’re getting worse. Yeah. ’cause I’m, I’m trying to stick with forest animals. Is a ferret a forest animal? I mean, it’s, yeah. I mean, it, it, if it’s wild, it’s a forest. It’s a forest, right? It’s in a forest. It’s not in a desert. Um, I got 11 toes, but I don’t wanna show, show. You have to prove it. I had it removed. I had my 11th toe removed and um, I had it ground up and I eat a little bit of it in a smoothie every morning. How about that? Um, I think you can make up world records. I think it’s probably pretty safe. Okay. Um, you hold the problem is then you have to do it. So no, when she was younger, go for it. She can do it when she was younger. Oh. I mean, you have to make up the world record. Oh, yeah, yeah. Right now to really, I, I hold the, the, the world record for the most ferrets ever in a backpack, Oh yeah. I like that. Um, your grandmother, her grandmother. Um, worked in a, um, a shoe factory and made, uh, um, she was discovered by Shaquille O’Neal and now she only makes shoes for Shaquille O’Neal. How about that? I like that. Yeah, they’re big, you know, you gotta have somebody on them all the time. It’s kind of like maintaining the paint on the Golden Gate Bridge They’re constantly doing it. How about one time when you were a little girl you were walking home from school good and You thought you heard somebody whispering in the woods and you knew that you should not ever follow a voice from the woods saying, come here, little girl. Come here. And so you walked in the opposite direction. Uh huh. Into the woods across the street. Uh huh. And you kept hearing the voice behind you the whole time. Yeah. But you just kept walking. Yeah. And then you came to a cave. Three caves. One, two, three. One, two, three. And you did eeny, meeny, miny, moe, and you went in the cave three. You went all the way into cave three. And there was a family of hobbits that lived in there. And they were in the middle of an argument about how you pronounce the word Marriott. Because they were thinking about going on a vacation. Yeah. And they were making a reservation at a Marriott. But they kept calling it Marriott. Marriott. There was the w the wife Hobbit was saying Marriott. Mhm. And the husband Hobbit was saying Marriott. And it was getting really ugly. And the little boy Hobbit, the son Crying. Was like, does it really matter? Does it really matter what we call it? Can’t we just go on a vacation? We can make the reservation. It feels like we can just go on this vacation. It doesn’t matter what it’s called. And then the dad says, If we get there, and we check in, and I accidentally say, It’s so great to be here at the Marriott. And I’m wrong. Yeah. Or your mother, for God’s sake, says, Marriott. I can’t remember who said what, but you know what I mean. What’s gonna happen? Do we get our deposit back when they kick us out? We can’t afford insurance for this trip. Right. And you said, How about you do everything exactly the same? But stay at a Hyatt. Hmm. I was thinking Ramada. And then, they all three turned and looked at you. And said, that’s an excellent idea. And then you backed away slowly. Went back to the road and walked home. Tell him that. Thanks for hanging out with us. Calling us. Boy, it feels special to us when you call us. I’m gonna tell you the number again. 1 888 EARPOD1 Glad to have you back. Oh, I’m gonna be thinking about that. I always go to the third cave. Never talk to strangers unless you’re stumbling up on them. Right. That’s right. Shira and Link, I really just wanted to tell you guys, I just love your laughs. Both of you. Especially Link when he gets a little crazy or I’ll watch some older episodes where he’s just hollering a good, a good old laugh. It just brings me so much joy and you guys are just so cute.