Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Link. And I’m Rhett. This week at the round table of Dim Lighting, we’re gonna be talking about who’s more baby girl between the two of us. I didn’t know, based on your opinions and our self-perception. I didn’t know that me extemporaneously going into a quiet storm DJ voice would fit so well with your baby girl teaser. I don’t know if that’s baby girl what you’re doing right now. It’s not, but it seemed like it worked. It might be ironic. I don’t quite understand what baby girl is. So that’s gonna be part of this, the education of that. Hopefully it is. it is explained in, the, in the question. I’m feeling good. Thank you for asking. You’re you’re back. Yeah. I don’t know exactly when, uh, this we, we, we’ve got an an order where we didn’t want it to be like you were gone for too long, but. Oh yeah. In the real world that we live in, you’re back. Yeah. In the real world. Yeah. In the fictitious world of Ear Biscuit scheduling. Right. You might still be gone. I dunno, who knows? I dunno how this works. Um, I want to tell you about my trip to Seattle, Washington with Christie and Lando. It was Lando’s Spring Break and um, you know, on the heels of the success of Lando and I going to San Francisco a few months back on like a one night. I think we only stayed one night. No, we stayed two nights. Um, record shopping and foodie tour. Extravaganza. We were like, what are we gonna do for your spring break? I said, why don’t we do that again? We can bring mom, we can, we can let her in on this experience. So let’s just, let’s go to, we, we thought about going to Portland, uh, but we landed on Seattle because a, we still wanted to stay in the same time zone. We wanted to fly outta Burbank. We want, you know, we wanna wanna get there quick and get to work because we didn’t want to take his whole spring break. He, he had some stuff he wanted to do back at home, so we ended up doing three nights in Seattle because we have, he has a really good friend. His parents are really good friends of ours. They’re from Seattle. And, uh, this friend of mine is a huge foodie. Like he’s all, he’s got lots of, uh, opinions and he leaves Yelp reviews. So he sent land, he all of his. Y like a, I don’t even know if you could do this, but a folder of his Yelp reviews of just Seattle. And so Lando went through those and then picked the places that we would go. And Lando loves the Asian cuisine, so we did, um, we did a Japanese night, we did a, then we did a Thai night. And then for breakfast, you know, I’d only been to Seattle basically one night and one morning when we were on tour. So that’s the only time I’ve ever, in a lot of ways it, I haven’t experienced Seattle. Right. So I was also excited to go back kind of for the first time for that reason. But we did go back for breakfast to a place that we met. Uh, our college buddy Greg and his family. Oh, that biscuit place? Biscuit [bleep]. Oh, [bleep]. And there’s a couple of ’em. That was good, if I recall correctly. Um, well, it’s Southern Style Biscuits and they’ve got, they’ll just drape it in the, like the white sausage gravy. Mm-hmm. They got grits and it’s, so we went to that place and um, they really lean into the [bleep] of it all. Like they say, alright [bleep], what you want? They, if you, if you show up at Biscuit [bleep], they’re gonna call you a [bleep]. But do they say it nice nicely? Not really. Oh, that’s good. Um, so it’s like dicks. No. Is that the name of that place? Yes. Is that the name of the sports bar? Yes. Mm-hmm. I’ve never been, I don’t like, I don’t wanna be insulted. They, they’re, they’re a dick to you. The waiters are a dick to you. I don’t wanna be insulted while I eat. Um, it wasn’t to that extent. And, um, back there where they were making the biscuits, them [bleep] back there were, were Mythical [bleep]. Mm-hmm. Because she was like, oh, mythical. And then, but they, you can’t go in, like, you go to the door that you would normally walk in and they’ve got you order there now, and you only sit outside. So like, they’re yelling after we ate, after, when we’re wrapping up eating the, um, the, either the manager or the owner or the, the woman in charge, the head [bleep] came out there and Christie’s like, do people get offended because you’re just preemptively calling everyone a [bleep]? And she’s like, I. Listen, this is my place. We do things our way. If you can’t take it, you can take your [bleep] self somewhere else, is what she said. So this isn’t, this is just the one location and she’s the head [bleep] for the, for, I wasn’t clear on that. Okay. All right. But, so I don’t know if they do that at the other one. They probably do. It’s part of the, it is part of it. So shout out to Biscuit [bleep]. They got a good thing going and it’s beyond the biscuits. Um, but most of the time, so in the two full days that we spent there, we went to eight bonafide record shops, but then we probably went to at least two, maybe three other places that sold coffee, but also records or plants and also records. Mm-hmm. So it could, I could say 10. Record shops in two days. That’s pretty good. I think we did eight, or I think we did seven or eight in San Francisco and I just can’t, I can’t believe that I’m doing any form of shopping for this long. But What is your wife doing she’s gotten, when you’re going to that many record shops? I try to, I try to, usually when you’ve, when you find a record shop, there’s other shops around it, like they’re in neighborhoods where there’s other stuff that she can go into, but she started getting into the record shopping and she’s big into the nostalgia. So like the CDs that she still has in her CD case that we still have like the No Doubt and the Ace of Base of the World and like that type of stuff she likes to find. And or like her parents, her dad always listened to the Kenny Rogers Greatest Hits tape. Mm-hmm. Growing up said like she found that record. Then Jenna, you’ll love this. She’s, she had to get some Dolly big into Dolly Parton. So we get, uh, so she started spending some money on records Lambos, um, still big into, uh, Neo Soul records. So we’re talking, um, well, Erykah Badu, Cleo Soul, um, uh, the Victoria Monet of the world like that. Mm-hmm. Shaday. Right? That’s, that’s his, that’s his world. And then there’s some overlap with my world of hip hop. But then on this particular trip, because we were in Seattle, I’m like, I gotta, I gotta get some grunge, I gotta get something from back when we were in that mode, because that’s the birthplace of grunge, Nirvana, sound Garden, Allison Chains. So, uh, I scored some sound garden. And I got some, uh, also some audio slave, which is like, and I got some rage against the machine. ’cause once I got into that, once I get into Chris Cornell, then Chris Cornell replaced Zach, whatever his last name is, the lead singer of Rage. And they made that new, uh, band called Audio Slave. Right. Which is good. So I got that. I found a used Incubus Science record. Mm. Which has to bring back wax paper dog’s memories. Right. Well, not just that, but when you tried to share the gospel with the Incubus lead singer. Yeah. When, when they were touring that. Right. Like very small venues. But like for freshman year in college, we were still doing the wax paper dogs. We were like emulating their sound. Well that’s in a sit in a charitable assessment of what we were doing between that like three 11, we were, we were being influenced by it three 11 and doing something very different. Incubus changed after that and they got more, um. Smoothed out poppy, not like rap rock anymore. Do you think it was a sign of things that come that we were, as a Christian band being heavily influenced by a band that’s named after a spirit that comes and has sex with you at night? Was, did we open the door to Satan all the way back then? And that’s why we, uh, deconverted? Yeah. Is that what happened to us? Well, that’s not, let that be, let that be a lesson to you. That’s not why we deconverted, but that is why our band sucked because we were being, because Satan was getting into the Christian band. Oh. But Satan makes great music. Satan is a really great musician. Satan makes great music. I think Satan felt very limited by our. Boundaries as a Christian band. He was like, I can’t fully embody these guys in the way. Yeah. Satan, like Satan was frustrated with us. Satan likes to get into the drummer first and he likes to, and then the, the drummer will then get a double bass. And that happens. That’s when, you know Satan has gotten into a band is they have a double bass, double kick. Double kick. And then if they have a five string bass guitar, that’s another, Satan is in that little string. He’s in it. What about Fretless bass? Satan hates Fretless Basses. Yeah. That’s a little too jazzy. That’s Yeah. He hates those. Yeah, it’s a little too, a little too fru. He calls that Woo. Right, right. It’s like fretless bass is woo to Satan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He likes to, he likes a nice scale, a well-defined scale. Yeah. He likes the sharp, sharp changes. He doesn’t like anything being smoothed out. No. Um, so I started buying in that direction. I. You know, I’d also still, still still buy my, my, my hip hop stuff. Um, but the thing about Seattle, yeah, there’s lots, you know, shout out to my favorite record stores there, uh, daybreak Records, uh, uh, jive Time Records, um, and then the, the biggie on the block, easy Street. And at a certain point we were, we had so many stacks of records that the guy was like, what? I was, I was talking, I was like, how are we gonna get this back? I gotta get another piece of luggage. He said, we can ship ’em to you. So then he, not only the records that I bought there, but he shipped the records that I bought before then, which really helped me out. And then the next day we started over, and by the end of that day, I got Easy Street to mail all my records home. Well, that brings up an interesting aspect of this, because the shopping experience, the physical shopping experience. Much in the same way that the vinyl listening experience, they are, um, they are performed, uh, inefficiencies. Yes. They’re planned inefficiencies for the sake of the experience. Right? Yeah. ’cause not only could you listen to any of this music at any time right now, if we wanted to. Yes. But you also could just find anything that you wanted to find that was vinyl and have that shipped to you Yes. At any point new or used. So you’re actually creating in both ways, both the enjoyment of the music, but the enjoyment of the shopping. You’re creating an analog experience. Um, yeah. That is wholly unnecessary from a, from an efficiency standpoint. Right. But from an enjoyment standpoint, that’s where, that’s where you’re finding your, your joy. And I’m really finding the. The different ways to find joy in the experience, like this is how I approach shopping in a record store so that I can maximize the experience of being in that store. Like, I, I, you know, I, I won’t go into too much detail, but like the, they always have a section called New Arrivals. So it’s records that have been sold back and are used, but they haven’t been, they’ve, they’re just there. They haven’t been picked through, so you’re most likely to find something that other people would want and they just haven’t gotten to yet by going through the new arrivals. If you go back to a record store that you love again and again, you want to go to the new arrivals because if you went there last week, you’ve already gone through everything except that stuff. A lot of record stores will have new arrivals, yesterday’s arrivals, last weeks, two weeks ago, and they’ll go all the way down like that for people who return. And the thrill, the biggest thrill is going through those and finding something that you’ve been hoping to find at a good price because it’s used. Like I found that, remember that first Feist record? Um, 1, 2, 3. I think it’s the one before that actually they run together. ’cause we listen to both of them at the same time. There’s one called this one’s called, uh, let It Die. And then the one that you’re seeing is called the Reminder. They’re both great. It want both of ’em. Let Die. Let It Die is my favorite. Let It Die is the first one. It’s the best one. And I, it is been on my list for years. It, I haven’t seen it new or used. They haven’t reissued it. So I found it used for like, it was still over $30. ’cause they look it up on disc GOs and you can tell like what the market value is for stuff like, like baseball cards. Sure. Anyway, that’s the biggest thrill for me is finding Mac Miller’s. But do you go up and circles? No swimming, um, no circles for $20 used. But do you go up to the, um, do you go up to you, do you have to find it by flipping through it or, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you refuse to go and ask them if they have it ’cause they have a catalog of what they’ve got, right? Or do they not? Some of them do. It depends on, but is that part of it? You can’t do do that too? Like if they, I’ve done that. If I’m in a hurry or if I’m looking for something very specific, but not I, that takes the fun out of it, right? Yeah. It’s another part of it is the flipping. The flipping, yeah. And it’s just like, I appreciate that this brings you joy. You don’t, you don’t like the idea of flipping, the idea of flipping through the thing. It’s just like the, I just can’t, it’s not my. It’s, I might dig for SII thought I might dig for treasure. It’s a collector mentality. I think I would, that’s said something that we’d have differently. I think I would dig for a dinosaur bone. Oh yeah. You would do that, but you wouldn’t do it probably every weekend maybe. No, and I would really want to know that I was gonna find a dinosaur bone. I don’t, I just don’t want a weekend of digging. You want them to hand you a plastic bag full of dirt and say that there’s a dinosaur bone in here. Go over here with the kids. I don’t wanna do like the gold nugget thing where you go and they’ve already put something in there and you No, I, the thrill there’s, I want there to be a little thrill of the hunt, but like, I walk away. The thrill comes from after having frustration and putting in the hours of not finding anything. Oh, I’m frustrated by enough things in my life. You’re gonna, I don’t need to, I don’t need to ate. You’re gonna transfer the frustration. I don’t need to orchestrate from your life into, yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s not, I’m so glad I found this bone very quickly because I’m already frustrated. Yeah. That’s not, I don’t do that. Uh, but we, we ate at this place called Kubota ami, which, um, they serve a Japanese currying and pork cutlets. This is the stuff that Lando absolutely loves. It was very good. Um, but I couldn’t get service to call a lift when we were leaving. So I had to leave the table and walk over towards the bathroom. Uh, I was gonna use the restroom too, but it was locked. So instead of going back to the seat, I stayed there by the kind of the bar area and I’m on my phone trying to get service and I turned to, um, a woman who’s wor, who works there, who’s cleaning the glasses. So she’s a behind the scenes worker kind of person. And I’m like, I, I didn’t want her to think I was weird ’cause I was just standing there like lurking beside her. You know, I’m not a serial killer. So we’ll see about that. Um, what, so. I said to her, do people have trouble getting service in here because I’m actually having better service here than I had at my table. And she looked at me and she was like, uh, and she didn’t speak a lot of English, is what I discovered in her response. And so, but I was like, mission accomplished. She knows I’m doing something on my phone. She’s not gonna be weirded out. And then, um, but she didn’t answer your question. She didn’t really answer my question. But then after I was succeeding in calling the Lyft and I was about to go to the restroom, she said she stopped me. And she said, are you famous from the TikTok? Oh, alright. I mean, and I said, well, potentially, um, yes. Not knowing really what the question was. Yes. I just said yes because yes. Right. Yeah. And then she said, would you like some of this on your that? Yeah. Yeah. And I said, yes, I would. I love that. That’s the only thing that she knows. The only the thing. It’s like that I am famous for the TikTok. Would you like some of this on your that Right, right. That was it. That’s that’s probably, she’s probably one of many people. That’s, that is the case. Hey man, we we’re, we’re putting this stuff on TikTok in hopes that you’ll try to figure out, oh, what’s the context here? Is there a show that maybe I should watch on YouTube or something like, that’s what we hope like 0.1% of you might do. That might go deeper. But I guess just to have, based on the statistics, the cultural relevance of being the, wanting some of this on your, that guy, well, she works at a restaurant, so she’s putting a little bit of this on some of that. A lot. A lot. I think she is, yeah. That’s kinda what she does. She puts this on that all the time. Yeah. So I, we had a bond and now you’re like the guy that went beyond the English language. Yeah. And it, that’s, it’s very like the, would you like a this on your, that is like, maybe that’ll make its way into like English teaching books. Like where is the factory? I would be honored. Would you like a this on your that? Like some of this, some, would you like some of this on your, that these are the things that Americans say. So that was, I mean, as much as I enjoy the records, that was the highlight of my experience. And I, I, I gotta share one more thing. We stayed at this place called the Edgewater uh, hotel, which is right on the edge of the water. The water, yes. Of the Bay. And the Beatles stayed there and there’s pictures of them on the balcony, like sticking their heads out the window and someone’s sticking their head out over here and they’re taking pictures. And then that suite that they stayed in. Is now the Beatles suite, and it’s decorated as such. We didn’t stay in it. Um, but we, we ended up staying in the other themed suite at this rock and roll hotel. They called it. Um, you could rent, you could borrow a record player and records from the front desk and play ’em in your room. But the, the other room was a Pearl Jam suite because Pearl Jams from Seattle, the Pearl Jam fan club, worked in collaboration with Eddie Vetter to decorate this, um, two room suite with like cool, like Pearl Jam posters from all of their tours over the years. And, and so like that became the wallpaper. And then there’s like set list framed on the wall, and then the bathroom, the wallpaper is like a blown up picture of an audience from their performance in Berlin or something like, super cool. So like, we definitely got the. Got the Seattle vibes and um, yeah, I highly recommend going back. But you didn’t get any Pearl Jam records? I’m more of a sound garden guy. You know, that like Trent was the Pearl Jam guy. So like back in high school when he was huge into Pearl Jam. But just a nostalgia, you know, I I, I wanted to get the stuff that was most honest to me and I almost got Pearl Jam 10 ’cause it’s a great album. I almost got a Nirvana album, but I was weird like that as a kid. Whenever, or as a teenager, whenever somebody like, because Trent was really into Pearl Jam and Nirvana. Then I was like, well, I’m gonna be, I’ll go another direction. I’ll be really into Sound Garden. I I, I was always like that. Like if you, if you liked Young Mc, then I was gonna get Mc Hammer. I don’t know why. I’m sorry. I. I’m sorry for you. They’re both pretty mainstream. I don’t know. Anyway, that’s it. I recommend Seattle. I’m going back. There was, it was good weather. One day it was clear. One day. Yeah, one day. A good weather. It ended up hailing after you left. Um, I thought it was like a hundred degrees here. No, no, there. I just saw something about, oh yeah. In the, in the Pacific Northwest. I think actually while lightning storms, two inch the day after, I don’t, I, we didn’t, I don’t know what ended up happening. I didn’t follow up on it. It, it, it was irrelevant to me. It didn’t impact me, so I didn’t care. And you knew that I wasn’t there anymore. Um. It looked, I saw like a big bubble on the map of where it was, and it was like, ah, maybe that’ll reach up to Seattle. I figured you knew we miss Yeah, like crazy. Your, your wife knows that kind of stuff. Oh yeah. Crazy electrical storms out on the bay. We could have seen that, but you know, it comes to your financial future. The smallest steps forward that you make now can make a big difference later. Chime is a great choice for making that first step as they really are trying to build a sense of community. 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Chime checking account required. Go to chime.com/disclosures for details list, uh, let’s take some of your questions Before we do, just a quick reminder that if you want to watch our content on your television nonstop, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, we have Good for you. We have a channel called Mythical 24 7. That’s exactly that. Look on your smart tv. If you’ve got, uh, Amazon Prime, if you’ve got a Samsung tv, if you’ve got Roku, um, there’s what’s the url? mythical.com/mythical 24 7. I don’t know. We have a place that shows you all the places where it is, but just check it out on your smart tv. If you wanna find out mythical 24 7. Yeah, I think if you just Google mythical 24 7, it’ll come up. Hello, my name is Stella. Um, I’m a radio DJ at the University of Georgia. I’m a student here too. Go dogs. And every spring we have a, um, a March Madness quote unquote baby girl bracket. Now, if you’re not familiar with what a baby girl is, a baby girl is. Typically a man or some other creature at times who makes you go aw, or that you think is cute or that you just think you would look at and say, oh, that’s baby girl. In our very first matchup this season, we had, uh, we had our dear link, Neil versus, um, Kyle McLaughlin, and of course Link you won. But the thing that I have issue with, with my radio station, WUOG 90.5 fm, is that Rhett is not in our bracket, and people are saying it’s because he’s not baby girl. I’m inclined to disagree, but I wanted to get your thoughts on this and who you think should be in the baby girl bracket. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, a, a McLaughlin. Not a McLaughlin made it to the bracket. Kyle, who’s Kyle McLaughlin? The, the reporter? No, the actor. Uh, oh, the actor from, um, is it it Twin Peaks great actor. Baby girl though. Uh, I think, first of all, do you think that was a mix up? I think this is a mix up. They were trying to go with Rep McLaughlin and they went with Kyle McLaughlin. I think they put me, they, somebody intended for me and link to be, uh, in the, in the matchup. And then they went with Kyle McLaughlin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That had to be there. I’m way more baby girl than Kyle McLaughlin. I mean, I think, I don’t know about that. Oh, come on. Listen, I think I get a bad reputation. I think I got a lot of hair and I got a beard and I’m tall and I’m big or whatever. Yeah. But I actually think I’m, I think I’m pretty damn baby girl. I think I need more credit. I think I need, I think I need more baby girl cred. I mean, I, I, I’ll gladly give you my baby girl cred that I don’t want. I don’t what, what Jenna? What? I don’t wanna be Baby girl is good. I don’t wanna be baby girl. I, I What? What? Aw, it’s almost like pity. Yeah, it is. It’s like it, they feel sorry for you. That’s why they don’t give it to me. I, the way I interpret baby girl is cute. That borders on pity. No, that’s not. Am I wrong? Aw baby girl. Men that, uh, people call baby girl are baby girls because they’re like endearing, like, yeah. You like the Yeah. Gimme another baby girl example. Another baby girl example is, uh, uh, Jacob. LL What it, how do you say his last name? Ti el ti ti ti Yeah. Yeah. From, he’s a baby girl. What is he in? Um, teen Wolf. Um, Pedro Pascal’s baby girl. Yeah. Well, okay. Yeah. Why is he baby girl? Because he’s baby girl? Because he’s endearing and like he, he shows affection in an endearing way. It’s usually someone who’s comfortable in their masculinity, in showing affection towards people. I’m not comfortable in my masculinity. That’s why I’m not comfortably called a baby girl. If I was, I don’t feel, I’m not masculine enough to then flip the script and be affectionate or something. I feel like, well, I think you should just take the compliment. It’s, it’s because you, I think I’m the victim here, not you. I see why. I see why they say it. They say ’cause it’s, um, it’s also a vulnerability and a charm that men have. Okay. That gives them baby girl. Okay. Yeah. Well, I, you should take the W on this. All right? Yeah. Take the w Well, you know what? Don’t be the, the v I’m just self-conscious. I’m trying to figure this out. This is a w but I’m gonna give you some, this is not, I’m gonna give you some of this is not a crossover. Here’s the reason why you’re not a baby girl. ’cause look at what your eyebrows are doing right now. This is not a crossover with, um, you see that with butch lesbian. You know what I’m saying? I think you might be worried. That’s what I’m asking, that if like you might be mistaken as a butch lesbian at times. Yeah. That you would be, or twink baby girl and I mean, maybe the Venn diagram intersect very, very slightly. Okay. Okay. Very, very slightly. Let’s help you with baby girl then, but well, so, so make a baby girl face. Oh, I’m not gonna practice. I’m not gonna do something to try to, that’s better. Get baby girl sympathy. You’re looking up more. That’s good. I’m just saying that I feel like I have relaxing the brow. I feel like I have developed a reputation because I am experienced in the context of me and you together. Touch me while you’re talking. Well, now that’s, see again, you’re, I’m not gonna be baby girl will not be manipulated. You know? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but I’m just saying that like, I think that if you really isolate it apart from you, you just isolate me and my actions, the way that I talk, my mannerisms, the way that I laugh, the way that I hold my body, I think you would be like, oh, he has a, he has a healthy amount of feminine energy. It’s not something that I’m trying to do, it’s just, I, I, I, I think it’s just like, if you, like, if you put me on a construction site, you know what I’m saying? I would be the baby girl of the construction site. Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s, I think it’s context. I mean, look at my haircut. If you were, I do a, I do the curly girl method for my hair, you know what I’m saying? I’m just saying, give me a little baby girl credit. We can’t hold on. But that energy right there is not baby girl. No baby girl wants credit. Baby girl wants to be in the Georgia bracket. You, Kyle McLaughlin. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It’s not, I’m sorry. It’s not happening. I’m sorry. It’s not happening. Uh, did that, that was too intense. Yeah. Yeah. See, I, Hey man. Hey. See, look, I mean, do you, it’s okay. See, I’m touching him in a, in a Did you watch, I mean, maybe platonic fashion, maybe you’re not a member of the Mythical Society, but maybe you saw the clips of me interviewing Orville Peck and, and how much I, and this wasn’t intentional. I wasn’t trying, I was, I was laughing at him and tucking my hair behind my ears. You know what I’m saying? It’s just like, I just think, you just gotta look at this, honestly and objectively. You can’t just always compare me to link. You know? Compare me to Kyle McLaughlin. He’s in the family. You can have it, man. You can have it now. What’s the, what’s the opposite of baby girl? ’cause I, I, it’s not that I don’t want baby girl, but what’s the other thing? Old man. Old man, baby girl. Oh, old man. Stodgy. I don’t know. I’m need a little bit of that anyway. I’m sorry baby girl got worked up, but, okay. Alright. She was offended. Yeah. I, I don’t, I don’t think I’ve ever heard There’s no opposite. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t think there’s an opposite of baby girl. Oh man. I’ll take it. I do. Scare of children. I will say that. Right. You know, if Bigfoot comes out of the woods, he can’t help. He can’t help if you run in fear. What about dogs? Do you scare dogs? Does Mike does? Does Mike’s dog like you loves me buddy? Does he know? Does Buddy love you? Buddy will not leave me alone. Okay. Well, that’s, that’s, he’s picking up on the right energy. But Mike said that buddy specifically loves men. Oh, I thought he, he’s told me he’s, he’s, he’s gay. He specifically loves me, is what I thought. Oh yeah. I think he, that’s what he told me. When you just interpreted that way, weren’t when you weren’t there. Okay, so maybe we clear that up. Maybe I’ll be in the bracket next year. Don’t put me up against Lincoln though. Did I win, did I beat Kyle McLaughlin? Mm-hmm. Put, put me up against Kyle Ach. Who was I up against next? There was no further context. Oh, we’re gonna need to see how the bracket goes. Yeah. Yeah. I, listen, I don’t wanna be up against Lincoln in the first round. I know I’ll lose, but put me up against McLaughlin. You know, I, I might get to the Sweet 16. I don’t know how many brackets there are, you know, get to the round of 32 at least. Okay. Okay, let’s hear another one. Hey fellas. Uh, this is Rico from Nashville, Tennessee, uh, calling in. I got, I got a fun one for you. Um, what quote unquote, serial killer behaviors do you have in your day-to-day life? What little odd things do you do that some people would call out as such? Uh, for example, I cut, you know, an echo. I. I cut it four dif, you know, four pieces. However, on the way you think I cut it, they’re not even pieces. They’re very arbitrary. Uh, cut like the bottom two rows, and then I’m cutting the sides and I save a bigger, the biggest piece in the middle of the end makes no sense, but it’s what I do. And then my wife, for example, uh, pours out additional milk. Like she’ll do, take a scoop of cereal and pour out the milk. Makes no sense. We, we always have a laugh about it. But yeah, curious what, you know, little habit, little things you guys do that, uh, some would call such a, you know, serial killer kind of behavior, et cetera. Uh, but yeah. We’re still good. Even though we’re a little bit serial killer, we’re still good. Rico Suave. I wonder if he got that a lot. Rico, he’s getting it now. Suave. It’s a song. Is there a, is there a documented, um, is this a documented phenomenon first of all, that like, have, did this come from serial killers being observed as doing right. Odd things. Yeah, like, um, like breaking their toothpick in half and then like using it as two toothpicks. That’s weird. You mean like that make, like making little things That’s fun. It could be. That’s fun behavior. Oh, that’s not serial here. Serial killer. I mean, there are real. Traits that have been documented, but they wouldn’t be con constituted as like these psychopath fun little things. Psycho, it’s mostly just like hungry for power. Manipulative. Oh, very charming. Okay, so this is an extrapolation. People just are like, if you do this weird little thing, then that’s serial killer behavior. I’m trying to think if I definitely can think of many things that you do that fall into this category. Oddly specific stuff, like when he said that he’s chopping his egos up in four non-symmetrical shapes, and I’m like, well, how crazy are you getting? ’cause like to me, that’s still okay, unless you’re taking the ego and you’re doing like a, a filet cross section. So now you have two echos that are half as high. Now to me, that’s serial killer. But if you’re sitting there just like cutting your little shapes and, and you can’t explain it to anybody, but it feels good to you, then uh, I’m for that. I’m for that. But it still, it’s still a quirky thing that somebody would be like, oh, you do that in an odd way, that’s serial killer. You do that in an unexpected way. It doesn’t necessarily mean that there’s no reason for it. Like there’s a reason why when you eat peanut butter, you run your mouth over the peanut butter and leave a bunch of peanut butter on there. The sh like, then go back in and do it again. I know you can defend your position. Yeah. But it’s kind of serial killer behavior. Well, I’m not making eye contact with anybody when I do it. That would be, that would be a little more SKE. You know what I’m saying? I’m trying to think, is there something that I do that if somebody was with me and I did it, they would like look, they would be like something that you do. You would look again and be like. How did you just do that? What about the thing where any, I don’t think you do this anymore, but there was a long time there and it really bothered me where I could tell that your mouth was closed, but you were taking your tongue and you were like getting old fellers. We were putting it in the back of your throat and like Yeah. That was just promoting, that was just personal hygiene accumulations out of your tonsils. Oh, it’s amazing how those are completely gone. You, it would be like this, all of a, you know, I’d just be talking to RT and I’d be doing the talking and whenever he’d be doing the listening, it would go to like this, it, it’s like he, I can still do it. It’s like you powered down. I can stick the tip of my tongue into my tonsils. God dang, I don’t know how you do this. And push anything that’s caught in there out like you’re, you’re curling the front of your tongue. Back. I crossed my eyes a little bit too. Into the back of your mouth. That’s so baby girl. When I do that, I can’t do that. And I don’t, I mean, that’s why I cut Q-tips. Oh, listen, I had to work into a spear and I would use that to get ’em out. I had to work my way to this. If you really want to, you can make your tongue find new places that Oh, yeah. That it’s never found before. Yeah. Yep. But you, but you have to work up to it. You can’t do this overnight. So you trained your tongue to reach the back of your own throat. Yeah. ’cause I was like, if I can eventually reach, I will be able to breach. You know, I’ll be able to get ’em out of there. Can you throw your tongue down your throat? Like, can you, can you gag on your own tongue? That’s how you die. Do it. You want me to, you want me to die right here? No, I want, want you to, I want you to gag on your, the tip of your tongue. Ugh. Are you doing it? Mm, I’m trying to. This is anti baby girl. I’m just telling you. No, this is as baby girl as it gets because you know how comfortable you have to be in your own body Okay. To like choke yourself on the internet. Pretty comfortable. Uh, I think you think, you think a typical, in theory, you think a, a typical timber worker would do that. You know, compare me to the right people here. I look like a lumberjack, but wait, compare me to a lumberjack. But he jumps himself with his own tongue on the internet. Have you ever seen a lumberjack choke himself? Only baby girl lumberjacks do that. Okay. What’s, I’m trying to think of something else you do that is serial killer energy. I don’t, when it comes to like, I mean, I, I do get it for everything. You have serial killer glasses. Well, you do. They’re nice, but they’re, they’re a little domish sometimes when I look at myself, walk. You walk like a serial killer. Yeah, like in Wonder Hole, like, like I’m walking around a lot in that show and I’m, I’m not happy with that. You’re a little stiff. I’m a little stiff. You’ve always been a little bit stiff with your, with your walk. You have very good posture though. I have a good posture, but I don’t have good posture. I walk like Bigfoot, like if you see, if you see it slinky, like there’s, you’re kind of slinky. If you see the Bigfoot walking through the woods, it’s me. I do that. I’m not trying to, I’m not, I’m not. I have a serial killer walk. I’m not happy about it. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta loosen up a little bit. I, I don’t know how to do it. You walk like a person with a fused spine, but it’s very upright, but, but the back stays like locked in. It’s like, it’s like someone, I mean, Lily has a FU spine, so I know what that’s like. It’s like someone programmed, she doesn’t even walk like that. It’s like. If Boston Dynamics really figured out how to make a robot walk, right, it’d be like, it’s almost there. That’s how, that’s how you walk. I mean, I’ve literally, I’ve been like, I gotta, I gotta do something about that. Too late now, man. No, but my arms do move. I mean, it’s not like you don’t keep ’em still. Yeah. I mean, it’s like if your arms stay down at your side completely while you’re walking. I think the thing is your arms move, but they look like they don’t need to be moving. You know what I’m saying? They’re not helping. It looks like the, the arms could be still and you’d be okay. It did. They’re not helping. Right. ’cause it’s not like they’re responding to anything that happened. They’re just moving like this, like, and my neck is long. I don’t know. Something about, it’s funny. Let’s see, what do I mean when it comes to interacting with any sort of food? I’m just in, it’s just I’m doing it very quickly and that’s not really serial killer behavior. There’s no like precision. It’s just like I just go real far. Yeah. You’re not precise. You’re more beastly about it. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. I don’t know. Is that, I’m just trying to think. Is there anything I, I really want you to be a serial killer. Do you stare through people when they’re talking? I don’t believe so. Not really. I don’t think so. Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know. I’ll work on it. I’ll work on something. Serial killer. Is there anything else that I have that you want to point out? It just seems like there’s too many to point out. I’m not a serial killer. It’s too gross. Serial killing is way too gross. Yeah. Like yeah. That’s the, that’s the chief reason. I’m not a serial killer. That and the, I mean, the murder part. Just the murder part, but the cleanup is really your problem with it. Yeah, but like, like I would have to be, I don’t know. Someone would have to, I’d have to bring a cleanup crew. I’d have to like sanitize everything and I. Can you drain the person of, of can you come in and like do the preki, like drain them of all their blood and then I’ll come in and make ’em still alive, but like drain ’em of their blood. Okay. This can be arranged and like no guts. It’s like I would, I would definitely use poison. You know, from a distance. From a distance. Like poisonous dart, blow dart. You’re a blow, you’re a blow dart guy. I’m a blow dart serial killer. This is, this is gonna be my way. That’s baby girl. Yeah, yeah. I’m a baby girl. Serial killer. Very true. You just step, you just stepped right back into it. You volunteered to use a blow dart. And I’m doing blowing. You know, this does raise an interesting ethical question. So true. Uh, I don’t know if you saw this, this has been, I think this has been a while. Um, I don’t know, I can’t remember which streamer it was, so I just won’t say the name ’cause I don’t wanna be wrong. But he had, uh, he had a robot that could walk that was like on his stream, and he was basically kind of abusing the robot. So it looked like one of those robots from Boston Dynamics, but Uhhuh, I don’t know where it’s from. That was meaning, well, it was like trying to, and he kept pushing it down and pushing it around. And you’re natural human response to that is, man, quit messing with a, you’re, you’re, you’re messing with a conscious being is what it feels like. ’cause it’s shaped like a human or whatever. Yeah. Uh, but it does raise the question because what, what, what could happen? And I don’t think this would be a good thing, but like, if there was a perfectly, perfectly human looking and acting robot, like they mm-hmm. Get to a place where they really can do this. Yeah. And then you buy that robot because you want to have the experience of killing someone. You’re talking about me, I’m saying anybody. Okay. Um, I think they’re gonna make that illegal. I, I’m, I mean the, the, one of the reasons they What about, what about kids mutilating dolls and like what about, what about the entire profession of voodoo? Yeah, but that doesn’t have, like, that can’t communicate with you. I just think they’re gonna, I think the robot writes, I haven’t looked into this, I’m assuming there’s people already thinking about this, but like, I think that Don’t push us around. Yeah. Because what will happen is it be like, okay, I can afford this. This is a machine. We can simulate feelings. This is a machine and I can do what I want to with my machine. I think one of the moral arguments for it against it would be, well, if you’re killing something that’s incredibly human-like and taking pleasure in that, then maybe you’re giving into an impulse that will lead to you actually doing harm to people. Clearly that’s an, an argument that you can make. If you can make that argument about rage rooms. Does rage rooms get out rage or does it foment more rage like, oh, I gotta have that feeling again. Is it an outlet? I think it’s an outlet. I think it’s an outlet in that context. But it’s a room. It’s a room. It’s not, it’s not a robot with a smile on the face. ’cause part of the, part of the experience of like killing a robot that is protesting is it’s, it’s a simulation. Even if it’s a simulation of a conscious being that is ex, it is a, it is something that is experiencing something and is like, stop pushing me around. Stop stabbing me, whatever the thing that you’re doing, but stop, blow darting me. But Rhett, think about all the demented [bleep] we’ve done to Furbies. We put a furby. In a cement mixer. Maybe we shouldn’t have. We put a, we, we, we built a guillotine, full size, extra sharp, could have removed the head of a human. And we decapitated a furby that still spoke afterward. And when we look back on that 40 years from now, when everyone has a really smart furby like companion, they’ll be like, oh yeah. Written link. You remember them? Yeah. They killed furbies for a while. It was a thing they did for pleasure. Can you believe that? They thought it was funny. They thought it was funny. It’s so unfunny now. Oh yeah. It’s so offensive now. Yeah. I’m saying that could happen. We we’re gonna, we’re gonna have to private th those 40 episodes of GMM one where we had the runner of abusing furbies trying to kill them. Have you seen companion yet? I told you to see it. You should see it. I made the mistake of watching that. Chasm movie instead. The Gorge. Yeah. I only watched half of it. One half of the gorge? Yeah. You didn’t see the other half? I didn’t. You didn’t see what happened when they got the other side? I, I, no, they, when they went down in it, um, okay. Well, yeah, you made a mistake. You should have watched companion. Is that what it deals with? Uh, not directly, but Okay. Not directly. Is it a person? Is it a I don’t want to, is it a humanoid or is it a, is it, I don’t wanna spoil it. Baby girl does not wanna spoil this for you. Okay. And uh, all because when I went in I didn’t know anything about it and, well, I did finally finish severance season two and nobody spoiled that for me. So maybe I’ll, maybe I’ll look into it. I’ve still got, that’s the only thing I’ve left is the finale. Well. You need to watch it later on today so we can talk about it. Well, that’s not gonna happen. Okay. Yeah, I don’t have the time. We got other things to do. I we’re we’re not serial killers. We’re just not, we’re not capable of it. Right. I, I don’t, I’m not even gonna watch Dexter. Like Yeah. I’ve never, like, I ain’t even gonna watch. No, I’ve never been into, um, it’s interesting ’cause I, I like horror movies, but I don’t, I don’t like serial killer movies. I did not watch all of Silence of the Lambs. We were young when that came out. I did. And I’ve watched it many times, but, uh, it’s not my favorite type of horror movie, but that one’s just so well done. But I, I feel different after I watch those than if, than if I watch something that’s just like a supernatural. Thing because it’s just like, it’s one thing to be like, okay, this fictitious thing that you can kind of convince yourself is real for the course of a movie, like demonic activity or Exorcism or whatever. Yeah. But then like when it’s over, you’re kinda like, yeah, that’s probably not real. But then when you get through watching Silence of the Land, there’s somebody out there right now that is doing this stuff again and again. Yeah. There are people. I don’t know it. It’s not a lot. It’s not a lot, but it’s enough. Statistically speaking, you’ve probably met one. Oh. You probably have seen one in Home Depot or something. Yeah, that would be the place. I know they’re always What about Lowe’s though? You think they’re more of a Home Depot type? I’m not gonna try to make a statement about that. I don’t know which one of those brands has done something problematic most recently. I don’t know. Oh. Or which one is gonna sponsor us. Um, so, but the, yeah, serial killers love hardware stores ’cause there’s tubing and, uh, vents and they actually buy sharp stuff. The average serial killer buys about 10 x of the things that they use to throw people off the scent. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to buy a lot of stuff you don’t need. So people, have you ever thought that There’s many times I’ve been checking out at a big box hardware store and I looked at the collection of items that I’ve got and I’m like, this guy could think I’m gonna kill somebody. I got rope, plastic sheeting, cement. Oh, you know, a machete. A machete. I mean, there’s been a couple of times where I’ve thrown together a little package that is definitely a killer. A killer special. How many machetes have you bought? Uh, you have like an array. I mean No, no, but I bought large blades. I bought, uh, several large blades. Sometimes I’ll buy one just because, I mean, that’s serial killer right there. You, you have, you’re, you’re enamored with large blades. I, if, if I see a large enough knife, there’s a part of me that’s like, you might need that. I bought some big knives. Yeah. You bought me a big knife. I bought Jenna big knife. I bought Jenna a big knife. That’s not serial killer tendency. You gotta have a big knife. You gotta have a big knife. You gotta have a big knife. You haven’t bought me a big knife, I’m afraid for you. Yeah. You don’t get the knife because statistically speaking, you would use it on yourself by, that’s, that’s why I like record collecting. ’cause it’s, it’s, you can’t cut yourself record. There’s a lot. It is a lot of roundness, right? Yeah. You know, I mean, the most dangerous thing is in the needle, but it’s very fragile. Yeah. I said needle. You haven’t needled yourself yet. Okay, let’s take one more. Hi ly. This is Caitlyn from Texas. I have a problem that I hope y’all can help me with. Um, my mother has a gambling addiction, but she won’t admit it. She has a friend who takes her to the world casino up in Oklahoma almost every weekend, and the friend gives her money, gives my mother money to gamble on, and so my mother’s not even gambling with her own money. It’s become a problem. She doesn’t tell me when they’re going to, to the casino anymore. She doesn’t tell me if she wins doesn’t. So how can I stage an intervention with her, um, to admit that she has a gambling problem? Alright, thanks. Love y’all. Bye Caitlin. Getting in mama’s business. Mm-hmm. Keeping secrets from you because you’re all in her business. Isn’t the issue. I don’t, first of all, let’s just say if you have a gambling addiction, there’s probably a website or number that you can, you know, you probably already know it. It’s like you probably already know what it is. You probably heard it. You don’t need me to tell you. By law it’s probably, yeah. Uh, it’s probably on placards where you gamble. It’s, it’s on the slot machine, probably somewhere a sticker, you know. Um, and do they have the, I mean, have you seen what they have on cigarettes? Like they have like dirty lungs. They have like pictures of like just a lung on a table now. Yeah. And, and I don’t get, I mean, you just turn a ca pack over probably, but yeah. So we’re assuming that they have that for gambling as well. Yeah. Pic pictures of people down and out and broke feeing to spend money. Yeah. So it, but it can, it can be a real problem. Uh, we just happen to be almost making jokes about it, but for a second we’re gonna say, this is serious. Yeah. Yeah. And don’t, before we make jokes about it, we’re gonna say that if you have a gambling problem, you should look at the number or the website and do something about it. Yeah. Now let’s have something Don’t, and don’t listen. Yeah. Let’s take it, let’s take it for a spin. Okay. Around the, around the comedy block. Um, I think, uh, that if you, if you’re using somebody else’s money, isn’t the problem with gambling that you’re using your own money? Is it, it, doesn’t it become a problem when it’s somebody, when it’s your money? If it’s somebody else’s money, it seems like it’s much less of a problem for you if it ain’t your money, because it, I mean, I’ll put it that way. If she’s sticking to this philosophy of, well, when the money’s gone, the money’s gone. I’m just, and for a good time. Is she making money? I wonder. And is she giving that profit back to her friend? Probably not Link. She, I mean, she’s probably not making money because that’s why the casinos are nice because they’re making money. So if you go for long enough, right? This is not a great investment. No. Of your time and your money. But it might be a good bonding time. I mean, apparently this other person either likes to gamble or likes they, their version of gambling is watching their friend gamble their money. Is she just like looking over her shoulder or it sounds like the friend has a gambling addiction and wants a friend maybe. Yeah. To make her feel better about it. Yeah. But it’s also the, and they got money to burn apparently if there’s, if they’re giving it away. Because you got the people who are the solo people at the slot machine. That feels pretty sad. Mm-hmm. It feels pretty sad. And we also, I’ll never forget this because we, one of the first ever like speaking engagements that we had professionally, like as comedians Yes. Was at this thing called Good Experience Live Jail Conference. The jail conference in Manhattan. Yeah. And everyone who got up was given a certain amount of time to do some sort of presentation, a TED Talk basically. And what we chose to do, boy, we were bold back then. I don’t think we would do that. We were encouraged by the host to do this. We wrote a song live in front of the audience. It wasn’t a good song. Like it was basically a song biscuit. It was fun for them, but it, you know, we tried real hard, we created an experience. Yeah. Not necessarily a good experience, but it was live. Live. Uh, but there was a woman who got up there and she had worked in the, for the gambling industry, for the casinos. Right. And she had designed machines, basically ga the, she had designed the science of, of gambling to keep someone at the slot machine. And there was an interesting phenomenon where, and she of course she had relinquished her ways and now she was on the other side. She wasn’t still doing it. She, she ’cause this, she just would not have gone over well if she was like, this is what I currently do. Isn’t that interesting? She left the industry and then it’s kind of exposing the manipulation. But one of the things that I’ll never forget is the way these machines are designed is such that. You are trying to get that person into a rhythm, you’re almost trying to hypnotize them. Yes. So that they will keep pulling that lever over and over again. It’s a flow state, and they’ll lose a little money and then they’ll get a little money. And actually a big win is not a great thing for them psychologically, because the thing that they’re actually addicted to is the process of getting into that state of addiction. So you can throw them off if they lose too much or if they win too much, it takes them out of the psychological hold that this machine has on them. Now, you need occasionally for somebody to hit the jackpot because that still needs to be this motivating factor that’s sort of under there. The idea of winning, the possibility of winning needs to be present, but actually winning doesn’t need to be present in order for them to get whatever they’re after the, and the way that it’s presented visually is very addictive. Is very commensurate to a TikTok experience. You know, you think about the slots moving up and down and like your, your eyes moving into this rhythm, this up and down rhythm, which, which puts you in a sort of a trance. And there’s, there’s some of that to, um, to scrolling too. Yeah. So it’s, it is definitely a kin there. It’s hypnotic. I mean, when I’m looking through records, there’s a bit of that. There’s like, you go into this, you better watch out sometimes you’re just like, and if, and if you start to feel like you had a bad day, you just feel like maybe you just go over to the record store and buy a record and make you feel better. There are worse vices. I think there are worse vices, but it we’re, we gotta, we gotta watch our human tendency for addiction. And it can happen. It can happen in any, any place. Mm. Any, any good thing can turn into a bad thing. If you’re. If you’re using it to cope or silence something, and I don’t wanna be listening to that record later knowing that’s why I bought it, but back to the situation at hand. But yeah, it ain’t her money. I don’t know. I mean, you’re asking us to, to help or not orchestrate, but give you some advice about an intervention. And I think this is a tough one because Right, she’s not using her own money. Maybe you just wait and see if that happens. Yeah. I, I really think it comes down to that, you know, but I mean, what is she doing? Is she making things better or worse for her friend? And that’s her call. You probably need to stay out of that. You know, it’s like, I mean, there is this thing that I, I was. Giving you a hard time, Caitlin, in that like you’re getting in your mom’s business to the point where she’s feeling judged by you, so she’s keeping secrets from you. I mean, is that what you want? You know, I mean, it you, you’re saying is you, is that a re is that another reason for an, that in the, in, in the column of you should have some sort of intervention? I don’t know. I, I think that’s another factor to take into account. Like what’s the, like how do you ascertain when it’s, when it’s a problem that as a daughter you need to do something about? And then how is it just a hobby that you don’t need to be dishing out judgment for? I have no way to know where you’re on that spectrum, but I think that is one spectrum that exists here. Right? I think there are people who like to gamble. But they’re very disciplined about, this is my budget for that. And I don’t ever go beyond that. And, but then I just think there are certain personalities that they can’t do that. And you kind of know, it’s like there are some people who are like, I can drink, yeah, two glasses of wine at dinner. But there are some people who are like, if I start drinking, you know, I’ll be drinking three days later, you know, having not stopped or whatever. And you know, you know, if that’s the case, it’s not for us to determine that, but it’s a friend’s money, as long as it’s her friend’s money, you gotta figure out a way to– It’s like playing a video game at this point. Keep, keep communication lines open. That’s what I’m saying, if you’re cutting down your flow of information, because of, you know, how hard you’ve been on her, then you’re not gonna find out if she starts switching over to her own money or if she’s going broke and draining her bank account. It’s like, how are you gonna find that stuff out by pushing harder or trying a different tactic? That’s what I was trying to say in terms of the spectrum of like, as we talked about before, we talked about it in the context of our own children. It’s like, how much are you policing and how much are you maintaining a relationship so that you can influence? And I, you know, it’s different when it’s a parent and it’s different when it’s something that is documented as being potentially addictive, but the, that dynamic is still there. Like you gotta have the ability to assess, to get information, and also to influence. But you can’t, but you’re not, you are not her parent or her policeman. So this is the tension. This is the tension. We leave you with the tension. I’d love to gamble with somebody else’s money, but they wouldn’t love it. It would be so, it would be– That’s true. It’d be so, it was, I would be so bad for them. It’d be fun to watch if, if I would like to watch that if it wasn’t my money. Somebody else gave you money to gamble with. I, I, I’d pay to watch that. But the slot machine, you just, I mean, that’s, there’s nothing involved, instead of pulling a handle. I don’t want to see you do that. I wanna see– No, you wanna see me do something that involves decisions. You have to make decisions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need you making decisions. Yeah, but when I, when we went to the poker night. I outlasted you. Oh, you did, you did. You made it to, to the final table. There’s, I made it to the final table. You did. In, in, in spite of myself. So, I don’t know, this is a little something for you to think about. Yep. Maybe, maybe next time we do the poker night. You just need to, you need to be standing over my shoulder watching. Well, I was, once you were at the final table. I wasn’t there long. You weren’t there for long, but you were there. Um, well thank you for joining us. We will do this again. It’s been beautiful. Hey, Rhett and Link. My name is Brian. I’m calling from Worcester County Mass. Uh, just wanted to call and let you guys know how great you are. I’ve been watching you two for well over a decade at this point. Uh, you guys have brought so much joy and inspiration to so many, myself included. Uh, and I just wanted to wish you two the best and, uh, keep it up. Love you guys.