Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast for two lifelong friends. Talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. Welcome to the round table of Dim Lighting. Where today we are discussing– Oh, that’s gonna hurt a lot of people. Oh, that’s gonna hurt a lot of people. All right, fine. We’ll do it. We’ll do it your way. I was trying to ease him into it. Change it a little bit, but still give the teaser. You know, I, I’m not, I’m not even a man of tradition. I know, that’s why I’m like, let’s start to change it. But, but, but I believe if you change your tradition, it should be done with good reason and in good fashion. I’m a man of principle, not a man of tradition. All right. Principles. I’m all about those tradition. [Bleep]. Alright, let’s start over. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time, I’m Rhett. And I’m Link, this week at the round table of Dim Lighting, we’re gonna help you figure out how to stop hugging your boss. Yep. It’s happening everywhere. And once you start, it’s hard to stop, apparently. We gonna help you. We’re also gonna get to an update on the Baby girl competition that I am involved in. And you are not. Uh, well, you may not, you may, you may not know some developments that have happened today. I don’t. I’ve, I’ve heard that we’re gonna get a, an update. Yeah. Well, there’s other developments beyond the ones that you’ll share. Oh, I’ll let you know. Well, Jamie will share. Let’s hear it. The update. Let’s get to that. Hi, Rhett and Link. wait. Hi Rhett and Link. I’m Stella. And I’m Katie. And I called a few weeks ago to let you know that Link competed in, um, my college radio station’s baby girl bracket that we do every single year. He won the very first round and I’m here to tell you, he won the very last. Yes, he won the entire bracket and Link, I am, I, I wanna congratulate you and let you know that you are 90.5 FM WUOG, Athens Baby Girl of the year for 2025. Um, yeah. Thank you. We love you. We love you. I didn’t know that. I would love to know what you think of this. Rhett, I regret to inform you that you were never even entered into the bracket I fought for you. You, oh yeah. I think you’re baby girl, maybe next year. Next year might be your year. Next year. This isn’t about me. Well, thanks guys. Bye. So who did I beat? I don’t know who you beat fully, but they also left a comment on Spotify saying that you did beat out Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is a baby girl? I don’t believe so. Roderick Hefley, who? I don’t know who that is. And then Will, will w I’m gonna say, ’cause I can’t, I’m gonna butcher the last name. And he’s a local musician there in Athens. A local musician. Sounds like competition is pretty safe. I out baby girl. A local musician sounds like competition. Sounds like I should have been in the bracket. So what do I get? I think you just got it. I think that was it. I think you get the recognition and now I have it. Maybe if you go to Athens you can get a free donut or something. Should this be my email closer? Like the official– Your signature you mean? Baby girl. Your clo a closer is different than your signature. Wishing you best. That’s a closer from the top baby girl in Athens, Georgia, 2025, baby Girl of the year. So and so, so and so FM Athens, Georgia, would be how you would probably say that, that that’s gonna be how I’m introduced for my Ted Talk. Well, wow. I didn’t know if I wanted to nominated, but congratulations. I’m, I feel kind of good now that I’ve won. Uh, congratulations. Uh, it’s quite a swing. I’m a little bit envious, I will say. Um, this was not by my design. This is anything that I asked for. In fact, uh, as you might imagine, this was something I was asked to do by the younger, more informed, uh, people here at Mythical. Mm-hmm. In order to promote my Song Sa Song, Song, Song episode two with Lizzie McAlpine. They were like, we want you to do this trend on your personal so socials, and if, if you didn’t notice, I saw you running in slow motion. My personal socials are, I mean, not as inactive as yours, but they are like, yours are completely dead. And mine are like, like an occasional breath. Like you walk up to it and you can kind of like, you feel like you have to put your ear next to it to make sure it’s still breathing. That’s my social media presence at this point. So they were like, there was a, there was a trend a couple years ago where people would, you know how, you know how when they explain things to us and I consider myself like more with it than the average 47-year-old be I have to be, yeah. ’cause of what I do for a living. Yeah. But still, they sometimes explain things to me and it doesn’t make any sense. So they were like, there was a trend where, and here and let, let me show it to you. And they showed me one and it was a girl getting up and acting like she was going somewhere. She was singing along with a sped up version of Lizzie’s Song Ceilings. Okay. Which you just did. And so, so then I was like, okay, that’s what it, what it what? Why is it that song? They were like, oh, it’s just that was they just people to use that song? It was a thing, it was a trend. It was just doing these two things together. And so then I was like, well, what’s okay? Well, what’s my take on it? You know, remember when we used to do all this original social media and we would ask this question? Yeah. We hated ourselves for a few years. Yeah. We hated that all those videos are still up on the internet when we were doing original social media videos. And we would, we didn’t come up with most of ’em, but we would then try to like massage them into something that we felt like it made, it made sense to us. It made sense to us. So we were like, what’s the angle? Like what’s the joke? Why are we doing this, and what’s our original version of it? Mm-hmm. So it’s not just funny that we did it right, but what we did was funny and it’s turn, turns out that was really hard to do. It didn’t work. It didn’t work. So I didn’t, you know what I decided to do, not ask any further questions. You just did it. And also not having any angle, just do the thing. I’m like, okay. They’re like, you’re gonna wear the Mythical Society Blanky thing. Hoodie, uh, Uhhuh. You’re gonna get up and you’re gonna run. From one part of the building to out into the parking lot and then back into the studio where you did the Lizzie interview. Okay. I said, okay, we did it. That was the second take. The first take took a while to, for me to land and get in place, and I was like, okay. I guess, I mean, I don’t, I guess I did the thing and they put it up on the internet and basically, apparently this is being perceived as my first real play for baby Girlness. Okay. I was like, yeah, where’s this going back to baby girl. So, so many baby. Like, people are like, okay, baby girl. Like, oh, officially ba like, I was like, okay, listen, I, I made the case Athens, I made the principled intellectual case for my baby Girlness, which I understand is not baby girl. I understand that’s not baby girl, but that’s the way that my mind works. That’s the way this baby girl’s mind works. And so I made the case for my baby Girlness, which I think is rooted in reality, but then when I just did something based on total instinct and just following the directions of 25 year olds. Yeah, apparently I baby girl myself right out there. So maybe I’ll be in the, I don’t think you can, I don’t think the returning champion can actually be in the bracket. What do you know? I don’t think there can be repeats. So I don’t think that Lincoln is allowed to be, he can’t face this baby girl champ. Or maybe another city needs to do a baby girl bracket. Athens, Georgia. Mm-hmm. How about Macon, Georgia? Where I’m from, hometown boy comes back, sweeps the baby girl. I’ll come home for that. I’ll come home for that. No, no you won’t. Yeah, I would go see my old house. Ah. Here’s the problem. If you’re waiting a year for Athens. Then by the time it rolls around again a year from now, baby girl won’t be a thing. You better try to get this done in the next five. I don’t think baby girl’s that much of a flash in the pan baby girl going, going away. It’s already fading. You always assume that anything that now that I’ve happening on the internet is only happens for like a week. Now that I’ve championed it, I’ve, I’ve noticed this about you. You’re like, hold on, are we too late to this? And I’m like, well, some things Yeah. But some things, some things we, they become part of the cultural baby girl is not gonna be your forever. And don’t, they don’t go away. It ain’t gonna be your, I mean, baby girl’s probably been around for more than 12 months already. Mm-hmm. It hasn’t. I’m the champ, I should know. Oh, you don’t know anything, man. Don’t even step to me. So I’ve been thinking about maybe, uh, I know that baby girl is not something that be, can be calculated. Um, but it was so easy. I. To just stand up and run across the parking lot and sing and I to a Lizzie song. Yeah. I didn’t even sing the song. I was like, I’m not, I’m not gonna lip sync because I’ll get it wrong. It’s going too fast. I’ll let you have a turn if you really want to be. You can baby girl it, no, no, that’s, no, no, no. I’m, I want, I, if I’m a baby gone baby girl, I want a baby girl on my own two feet, my two little baby girl feet. Okay. All right. I’m fine. Well, congratulations. Yeah. I did not know that was what the update was gonna be. I’m flattered, flabbergasted, and still torn. Well, and while we’re at it link, we might as well just pour it on. Uh, somebody decided that because I had a, uh, dancing focused TikTok or Instagram that you needed one as well. Oh. So now you ha what is, what is that one called? Links. Dancing. Links. Link dancing. Dancing. Link dancing. Dancing. Link dancing. It’s a older, uh, clip of you when your hair was down. Yeah. And I think that one’s from the viral boom. I’ve seen, I’ve seen that dance move. Okay. Alright. Okay. Oh, no, no, no. This is from GMM. This is from how to, how to dance, how to be attractive or something. This is the one that they used. Okay. Me and my helmet head. You think the same person is making these? Uh, probably. Okay. All right. Maybe not. So you are up to 14,000 followers. Okay. Well see, see how, see how I do it? Where you’re at ret. Dancing. Dancing. You’ve already pa He’s already passed me a follower. Really? I mean, you got 8,000. Hold on a second. And there’s so many. I think, hold on. Did you start before me? This one only has 61 posts, whereas yours has 200. What? What is happening? I think that’s the problem. People are unfollowing that account because that’s what’s happening. 256 posts. ’cause they’re going too strong. The first one’s from three weeks ago on link dancing and it has 50, oh, come on. 54,000 likes. Which, but the dancing isn’t even good. I have, I have better dancing videos out there. Yeah, it’s not bad. Strong. Start the hips get into it. The butt gets into it. Okay. And I didn’t ask for this, it just has somebody says, I generally can’t tell if this is ai. Huh. Well, it’s real. Might not be. It might be. I don’t know. Okay. Uh, so, all right. I guess I’ve, I’ve, now I’ve lost twice. So if, if, if you wanna go and watch, uh, Rhett dancing, which I just think is, you know, definitively a better account. Uh, definitely more interesting. I mean, look at the, look at what’s happening in the, it’s better dancing. I mean, it’s, I’m capable of that. It’s, but that’s not what it’s it’s mesmerizing. I mean, I can’t do this anymore. Um, yeah. Yeah. Why are you scrolling? They’re all the same. I’m looking at the, uh, I’m looking at the progressive drop off. People are getting losing interest. Um, yeah. So RT dancing. Oh God. Okay. Uh, another thing you can look at on the internet. Just add to your list of things to look up. You can go over to the Good Mythical Moore channel. Yesterday we released a, a super long a. Like about half of the RET Link roast, we had our employees and, um, some talented mythical beast employee comedians, like professionally roast us. Yep. And that was a special on the mythical society from a while back. We’re really proud of the stuff that we’re creating and, and, um, sharing exclusively on the Mythical Society, which is our paid fan club. Uh, but we want you to know the, that type of caliber specials we have over there. So we uploaded half of that. It is censored. It’s uncensored on mythical society ’cause everything’s uncensored. 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Well, thanks for being vulnerable. You’re doing something that you know, in your brain is not good for you, but your instincts are telling you I have to keep doing it. I don’t understand myself. What is really bad about nail biting bad for your teeth? Um, well, f first of all, if you start ripping at, you might, you might get too close and that does hurt. Whew. That’s horrible. And there is stuff, you know, the, the common deterrent is showing under a microscope what people have under their fingernails to gross you out. It’s like that doesn’t work. It’s like sending a wayward child to prison for a few hours. Yeah. That only doesn’t work. It doesn’t last. They forget about it. You forget about what’s under your fingernails. You go back to bite ’em, and maybe it’s ultimately good for, for you to be, for your immunity, fighting that stuff off. From an immunity standpoint, when I was growing up, let’s see, I was, when I was in like third, fourth grade, I had a really bad habit of biting my fingernails and my papa didn’t like it. I don’t, I don’t, again, I don’t know why. It’s just like, get your fingers outta your mouth, boy. It’s like, you know, it’s not, it’s not a becoming habit of a self-controlled young man. I wasn’t given the reasons, but I was given a bribe. If you stop biting your fingernails, I’ll bite you that skateboard you want. And, um, I stopped biting my fingernails and he bought me the skateboard and the elbow pads and the knee pads. And I would only skateboard at N and Papa’s house ’cause they had, uh, a cement driveway. Gotta have that. And then I started buying my fingernails again. Right. You got the skateboard. ’cause it got the skateboard. But I felt horrible, but I didn’t, it didn’t, I didn’t feel so bad that I stopped biting my nails ’cause I couldn’t. You still do it? Yes, I have it and I still do it. You know, the thing that really broke me of it was my teeth moved like this, the actual physical location of how my teeth interact with my nails. It’s, it became almost impossible with the way that I bit my nails with in a particular way. You lost the ability. I couldn’t do it anymore. But what I would do is, and now I have to cut my nails, I still look around my nails. I still bite that skin around the nails. You keep, it’s a nasty habit. Keep nails so short. Like you don’t have any finger, any white, you don’t show any white. I, well, I cut ’em two days ago and there’s a little bit of white No, no, like that’s a little bit of white. Like a, like a, yeah. If you see some white streak of white, um, I, I will do that. I don’t really do it anymore. It’s a nasty habit to bite the skin around your nails. And that will hurt too if you mess it up. I’m sure I have a bunch of ’em. And I’m sure there habits that you have noticed before. If you watch us, I think you have to wear gloves before you talk about your habit. I’m just saying my best guess is just wear gloves for like two weeks. Don’t allow yourself to do it for two weeks and see if that breaks a habit. Yeah. How long do they say. It takes X amount of days to form a habit. X amount. There’s x amount of weeks to form a habit and y amount of weeks to break a habit. What if it’s fingerless gloves though? Then you got a problem, Jamie, look up. How long does it take to break a habit? Well, I think it depends on wear gloves, however long that is. But you were saying you didn’t, nothing’s coming to mind, but you know, you got some purpose. The one thing that I know that my gets on my wife’s nerves, and, uh, you’ve probably seen me do it. I know you’ve seen me do it. I don’t, I actually don’t know. Stick my finger in my ear. Oh God. I didn’t know you were gonna say that. Yeah. Sticking your finger in your ear. Yeah. I can’t say I’ve ever noticed you doing this. Really. And I hate that you’re telling me. So. And it, and it’s for a very specific reason. Turn this way. I like the, I like the way it feels. No, do it to the other ear so I can see, I don’t do it to the, to, to this one as much, but, but let me see. I wanna see how deep you’re going. I’ll tell you exactly how deep I’m going. I’ll tell you exactly what I’m doing. Are you pulling? Are you pulling? Alright, tell me. I have ex, I have, I have weird skin issues. Eczema all over places. Right? Okay. Um, and not, not anything that you usually can see. It’s like, it’s a little subtle things, but like, what happens in my ears is I have dry skin in my ears. It’s not ear wax, it’s dry skin. And what will happen is, is like, if I don’t get it out, it’ll like, sometimes it’ll like migrate and you’ll see it and it might even fall out, like fall into my shoulder, which is like a horror, like, oh God, something fell out of his ear and it’s on his shoulder, like ear dandruff. The idea of that happening is so gross to me that what I do. Is, I will reach in and I’ll, and it, it comes in waves. I don’t have any right now, I guess it’s like seasonal or whatever. Yeah. And I’ll feel there’s like dry skin in there and I don’t, and I don’t have to use my fingernail. I literally just push on it and pull out and then there’ll be like dry skin on my finger that I just sort of like put into the wind. I test the wind direction with that sometimes. Okay. You know I’m golfing. Have you ever tasted it? No. Good. And so Jesse hates this ’cause I’ll do it when we’re going to something where I’m really don’t want dry skin coming outta my ears. Yeah. And well, are you in the bathroom or are you in the car? I’m driving usually. Oh. Oh yeah. And she’s on that side. She’s on your passenger side. She’s like, please don’t do that. Why do you only do it to the passenger side ear? This one’s worse. Oh really? This one’s worse. Maybe you’ve made it worse. Well, I don’t know the science behind it. I’m just saying that I can’t believe you haven’t seen me do this. I didn’t know that’s what you’re doing. I thought maybe, ’cause that’s the other side from me. See, I’m the driver. You’re the passenger. No, I mean, I do it in all, all life. All throughout life. I’ll do that. I’ll just kind of quick, just check, just quick, quick check. Now if I know, if it does feel good to, like, I’ll grab inside of my ears. Not in the hole, but in the, in the low part. And I’ll just start pulling down and pulling out, like doing a massage, like pulling your ears out, pulling your ears down, pulling them back, going in a circle. Like I’ll do that on the way to a party, self-driving, but then I won’t, um, I won’t like scatter anything. Well, if you don’t have anything, there’s nothing to scatter. Yeah, that’s not a problem. I, I mean, when I was a kid, dude, I had, I don’t know if it was eczema, but I had, I. A horrendous problem on the On behind. The ear. Behind the ear where it would crack open. That was a, that was a fungus. Woo. That was bad. We, we got it taken care of. It’s probably a vitamin deficiency or something. It was absolutely painful. It was like my ear was just like rotting off of my, yeah, I had that right skull. I think, I don’t, I think it is fungal or it’s a vi, like literally it might be a vitamin deficiency. ’cause you know how when you get like the corner of your mouth will sometimes get like, feel like it’s torn? Yeah. That’s a vitamin deficiency. Well, what vitamin? I can’t remember, but I guess I haven’t had to worry about it in a while. I’ve been doing AG one, not a sponsor right now. Yeah, they’ve been in the past, but Okay. Um, yeah, it’s a vitamin deficiency. Yeah. You don’t want anything in the corner of your mouth. You don’t want anything inside of your ear that people can see. You don’t want something on your shoulders. I think we, I think you’re doing a good thing. The other bad habit, you just do it at home. The other bad habit, and this is something that, I mean, we don’t watch a lot of the stuff that we make back, but we both say, I say I know like a lot, everyone, everyone says like a lot now, right? Like everyone that see, like everyone that we know and everyone that we’re around says like a lot in, they’re in, they’re talking. And if I do happen to listen to myself talk, that really, that’s a bad habit that gets on my nerves. But do I do that? Uh, I don’t hear it. I’m curious if I do that, I’m not thinking about it. So, but I don’t think about it when I hear other people talk. What is the habit that we discovered as we’re shooting Wonder Hole season two? I mean, we’re very, yes, we’re very focused on, I. Well, there’s no lines. There’s no scripting ever. There’s an outline, so there’s a bulleted outline. We are having a, a moment to moment reactionary, improvisational outlined conversation, and we both have this habit and we’ve given it to each other and reinforced it. And Ben, our director, has to point it out and it’s, it’s, it’s kind of frustrating when he points out that we’ve done it ’cause we have to start over. But it’s, he was like, listen, the only reason I’m doing this is ’cause this is a habit and it’s, it’s something you guys don’t need to be doing. We will start sentences with, I mean, and we don’t do it. I don’t think we do it. I mean, maybe we do. Maybe we do it a lot. I mean, I think we do it. Maybe we do. I think it always ha, so far in my observation, it’s happened. There’s a lot of intense conversations and situations in Wonder Hole where we’re like, like solving a problem and that’s when it happens. I think I know why. I think we have a habit of filling space with something to signify, I’m about to say something. I may not know what it is because we have to operate as a duo. We operate as a duo so much that we’ve used the same signal. I’m about to talk. I mean, now I’m gonna say something that I mean, I mean is like, you know, which we also say quite a bit. I know I say, you know, I. I say, right. And we, we used to say Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We used to start sentences with, okay. Especially when we were shooting like short form stuff. And I just said like too, I think you probably say it a lot, but everyone I know uses like a lot. And so it is just something that happens and you don’t even think about it. But if we think about it for two weeks, I bet you we can eradicate it. So I was watching this speech expert talk on that diary of a CEO podcast and he was talking about these habits. Okay. Saying, you know, and like an um, and he said, when you think that you are about to say one of these things, one of these filler words, just pause. I think one of the things that is difficult for us to do is that a pause ends up being an opportunity for the other guy to speak. Exactly. But it was interesting because it, we, you know, I did that, you know, that, uh, the episode of Within Reason with Alex O’Connor, we recorded it in here. Mm-hmm. And we don’t do a lot of just one of us. You’re the only one there to answer a question. I did a lot of slow talking and a lot of pausing in that, mostly because I’m talking about something that I know people are going to take every word that I say and use it against me, which they are. So I try to be a little bit more calculated in what I say, and even then, because I’m not a professional communicator about those things, I end up saying things. I’m like, ah, didn’t, that didn’t come out right. But there was much more pausing in my speech and when he had asked me a question. I would wait that long before I started speaking. I’m trying to do that just in interpersonal conversations so I don’t say, um, and like, and you know, so often ’cause I think that I might be able to completely eradicate them from my speech, you know, and I’m trying to give you space to finish your thought. And because our conversations are not scripted and we don’t know exactly, we do know somewhat what the other person’s gonna say. Like the big meaty pieces, like the skeleton of a scene for Wonder Hole is scripted. When I say scripted, outlined, planned, but the specific words that are gonna come out of our mouths and the specific cadence and whether or not we respond to something that the other guy says. All up for grabs. It changes each take by design. I don’t think it’s been a problem. The, I mean, thing has been a problem, but as soon as he tells us, I think we’re able to stop. Sometimes we do it right on the next take. Yes. But now I’m afraid to talk. I think it’s fine to just talk. We already talk pretty slow. We’re from the south. That’s fine. Yep. I don’t have any other habits though. Caffeine caffeine’s not, it’s not a habit. The thing that thing that I’ve noticed though is I’m looking for reasons to introduce caffeine earlier this year. Is, is gotten, it’s gotten started to spread. Do you mean you seem to drink caffeine? For the past couple of weeks for the purpose of not being tired. Yeah. Which I think is, yeah, I think it’s probably a sign of something else that’s going on. I’ve gotten a lot of stuff checked out. No, I’m not saying anything serious. I’m just saying there’s, if you’re tired in the afternoon, there’s probably something, there’s something else you could do besides caffeine that would make you not be tired in the afternoon, but I’m hooked on it. Yeah, you would have to go through a hellish process of getting off of it, and I don’t think, I don’t think you have to. Well, I don’t think you necessarily should. It’s two o’clock. I’m just saying if you have to have caffeine at noon, I drank caffeine, which I used to not do. I used to drink one in the morning and then I would drink one at two 30 or three. Then I started drinking them over lunch. And you drink one at the end of the day now? No, at four o’clock. Sometimes I do that. If it’s Friday, if I’m gonna have a late night. Okay. But I don’t do that on like a, a school night. But I got in that middle one over lunch, and now here it is two o’clock and my head it, my head is hurting a little bit. Yeah. Addiction. And I can tell it’s that it wants the caffeine earlier. It wants it right now. But not, you don’t feel like you’re about to fall asleep? No. All I feel is a li the tinge of the headache. How much sleep did you get last? Let’s look. How much sleep did you get last night? I don’t have my, I don’t do that anymore. You, I lost my watch and my ring doesn’t charge anymore. Get a new one. Okay. What time did you go to bed last night? Nine o’clock. Nine 30. Woke up at six 30. Is that nine hours? I woke up at six. I. Um, nine to six is, that’s nine hours of sleep, right? Mm-hmm. Six 30 to nine 30. I’m definitely in bed for nine hours. But you go to sleep almost instantaneously. Yeah. I woke up once in a night. I just cr I crave the caffeine and like, I’m not sleepy. Look at me, look at how awake I am. Last night I got six hours and 23 minutes of sleep and I like, I was in bed for seven hours. I like having it. It’s so weird because it’s virtually tasteless. It’s not completely as we’ve proven on good mythical morning, but virtually, but those drinks that I have and it’s just that Yerba Monte and then hot coffee. I’m just saying that you’re getting nine hours of sleep. You shouldn’t be getting tired in the afternoon. Well, I, getting a headache is a different thing. I don’t know if I’m getting tired. I’m getting, you’re just saying addicted and you want it. Yeah. Have a bad habit. I gotta slow, I gotta slow my roll a little bit. But the But your sources of caffeine are not bad for you. Coffee’s good for you mate. MA’s probably good for you. It’s probably got like polyphenols in it and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Alright, so keep on keeping on. All right. As long as you’re able to sleep. It also says there’s a range of 18 to 254 days to break a habit, but the average is 66 days. 66. You gotta wear gloves for 66 days. They also have like polish that’s supposed to taste really bad. I was gonna say that’s probably better than gloves. You don’t wanna be the gloved person. You could just have fingertip gloves instead of fingerless, fingertip list gloves, just the opposite symbols, whatever. Whatever they do with the fingertips. For the fingerless gloves, you need to round those up. Did they sell those separate G Loveless fingers? Let’s listen to another voicemail. Hi Betty Link. My name is Ashley and I have a question. So, uh, my ex-boyfriend’s new girlfriend texted me asking me why we broke up and he, you know, I broke up with him for obvious reasons. He was a very bad person and he’s also a big cheater. So do I tell her, do I not tell her? Do I even text her? I have a new boyfriend. We’re engaged. Um, so my fiance and I don’t think he would be comfortable with it, so what do I do? Thank you. This is girl code shit, man. You gotta it. Tell her, oh, you know about the girl code. I know enough to know that. Yes. You got to tell her. It seems obvious to me. I mean, yeah, Jenna’s not here ’cause she’s at the optometrist. She got something in her eye this morning. Couldn’t get it out. Yeah. She rolls into our office and she’s got a Dgu patch. Patch patch over her eye. It felt sorry for a self-made patch. So she’s a MacGyver. We’ll keep you posted on uh, what she digs out. Maybe it’s worth something. Jamie School us on the girl code of this. I mean, if this was me and someone was like, Hey, why did you break up? She probably already thinks that her boyfriend’s cheating on her. She’s like, I already think this, but I wanna see. And he probably painted the ex as like, oh, she’s crazy. Guys do that all the time. So you gotta tell her. Yeah, and it would be a different situation. If, if it was unprompted. Yes. So if somebody is, I don’t know the girl code, I’m just inferring some things here, but this is my understanding of it as it applies to this situation. If your boy, ex-boyfriend who’s a bad dude, then your estimation starts dating someone new and you don’t know this person. There is no obligation. You need to move on you. There’s no obligation for you to get yourself in that business, but Right. If this girl calls you and asks you why you broke up, you don’t have to go into all the dirty details, but you know why she’s calling and asking you that. So you have to tell her the pertinent information. Yeah. I mean, what, let’s use something that’s not a. Relationship situation. I, to me, it made me think of job references. Yeah. Oh, you wanna work with me now, huh? Well, let me see your references. I gotta talk to who you worked with before. That’s the one thing that, not the one thing, but that’s a big thing that we’ve learned. No matter how good you feel about somebody when you interview ’em, always ask and follow through on the references. You have to, you have to, you got to do that work as an employer, as a big bouse. And rarely are you going to, in my experience, and we thankfully don’t have to do a lot of this ourselves anymore, but in my experience, it’s not that you’re going to call a former employer and get a bad reference. They’re gonna give out names to people of people who they think will give them good references. Right? Yeah. But what’s more telling is the references that you don’t get, that they don’t provide. Yeah. The last person, the person that they worked for, well why, why is that not a reference? Um, and then they might have to explain that. I was like, well, it ended poorly, we had a difference of opinion and then this is the kind of thing that they might say about me or whatever. But that’s all part of the job history. So I don’t know. So this would be the equivalent situation would be someone calling us and saying, why did you fire this person? I think there’s legal issues with that. Mm-hmm. So we don’t, we, we typically don’t do, we don’t do that. We don’t badmouth somebody. Yeah, we don’t do that. Well, we certainly do. What’s legal only. Right, because we personally don’t do it. You know, there’s a lot of, there’s a reason why we very specific hoops that you invested to jump through, invested in, uh, HR and people. So this isn’t a legal issue in this, in the relational thing. This is again, it’s just the girl code. Now, the fi her thinking her fiance is not going to like this. Is that what she said? That’s what she did. She said, but yeah. Oh, I thought that she said that her ex is not gonna like it. It was like, of course he’s not gonna like it. You’re saying her fiance, she doesn’t think her fiance would like, what? Exactly. I think you need to have a conversation there. Well, okay, let’s, let’s give an amendment to the girl code that we’re just making up. Off the spot. On the spot. If you think it’s gonna create, it’s gonna draw you into drama that it shouldn’t be a part of your life anymore. Don’t say anything. Mm-hmm. Because if all of a sudden he’s gonna start texting you and what’d you say about me? And all of a sudden, now you gotta deal with his ass again. Right. It’s not worth your time. She made the decision to date this guy. She might have to learn things the hard way, but I’m just saying, if in a moment of transparency and honesty, someone’s like, Hey, why’d you break up with this guy? It’s like, well, he’s an asshole and he cheated on me. Yeah. Or you could say, I think you already know everything that you’re asking. Boy, that’s even better. And that’s just a sign. But it’s like, I didn’t say anything. I didn’t give any information. I think you need to talk to your fiance before you do anything. I think that’s a good habit. That goes both ways in a, in a committed marriage is if you think something, something of that. Anything of that, yeah. Of that nature. It’s like it’s, it is a good habit to talk about it and work together as a team, work together. This is a good team building exercise for you. You got very little at stake. Unless something happens like what Rhett’s talking about. You get pulled into drama, which is something to think about. It can happen. That’s definitely probably what the fiance’s problem is. They’re like, you don’t wanna invite that back in. I have a feeling, and I don’t know, this is an assumption, I have a feeling that if this guy was such a douche bag, that she probably blocked him. So at least maybe she’s already shut out the drama from that end. Yeah. He can’t get in touch. How, but how did she, how did the ex get the number is the other thing. She’s like, she texted me. That’s also weird. Yeah. She went out of her way to find the number, which means she might be in a dire situation. There’s something going on there. Right? Right. She’s finding it on his phone and then like tapping it into her phone, tapping it right in. Tap it in, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. I don’t know, I, I think there might need to be some sort of app to take care of this. They have it for professors, you know, if you’re a college student signing up for classes, you can look up. A review of a review of a boyfriend of the professors. No, I know that. I’m moving to what you’re suggesting. You’re one step ahead of me in the point that I was making, which is yes, when you break up with somebody. Yeah. This sounds, this sounds like a social, um, what do they call that system in China where there’s like a social currency kind of thing, and if you get a certain number of demerits, you can’t travel and stuff. Ooh. I mean, people do, that’s a government thing. We’re not talking about that. These, you know, I was trying it off for size, but these type of apps I think are problematic. Oh, this, oh, this is amazing. It’s basically how Facebook started, right? This made me, this made me completely remember something that I would’ve never remembered. Okay. That’s the, that’s the beauty of your biscuits. Um, when I was in Peru and it, this was my last day when I was supposed to be on the plane getting to LAX, but then we, we, we had to stay an extra night. I get on the shuttle from the airport with a guy. And he knew who I was and had watched, he wasn’t like a huge mythical beast, but he knew who I was. And, um, so we were talking and I was asking him what he did, and he said, I’m a photographer, okay. And my specialty is dating profile pics. What? And he lives in Austin. And I was like, this totally makes sense that this is a thing. At first I thought maybe he was trolling me, but then I was like, no, he’s not. Well, he’s not trolling me. This is a real thing. He, he, his clients are p First of all, if you are single and you use the apps. Today, which is most single people. Yeah. Your, your photo game’s gotta be strong. This, this is how people make all their decisions about you. You’re gonna trust your dumb ass friend who doesn’t even know how to do, you know Right. Composition or are you gonna do all selfies? No. Right. When you can get a professional photographer and, but they, but he’s gotta be good at taking a photo that doesn’t look, that doesn look, that doesn look like a portrait. Exactly. So he basically said he has a meeting with someone and he tries to figure out who they are and like what he can kind of bring out of them in a way that would be compelling. And then does the photo shoot with ’em. And so, yeah, I don’t, I didn’t see any of the pictures ’cause I didn’t wanna ask too many probing questions. I wonder if he would just do it on a phone. He might. That’s the thing. I don’t know. But like, not a high quality camera. Well, I. Every camera is high quality now. Yeah. But you kind of want to make it seem like you don’t want it look like glamor shots or like your graduation photo, candid, but you want to, like, what do you wanna capture? Like what is the vibe that you want people to take from these photos? And it’s better for somebody who knows what they’re doing to do that for you probably than yourself. Yeah. They do that for Airbnbs and for real estate. Yeah. So I, and again, Airbnb’s great example of where the pictures plus the reviews are how you make the decision. Mm-hmm. I just don’t think we can start treating people like Airbnb though, and restaurants, because if someone breaks up with you, we’re not gonna lose, we’re married. If someone breaks up with you. By default, you get a low star rating. You know what I’m saying? If you’re, if it’s still five stars, you’re still in the relationship, right? So you’re gonna, you’re gonna rely on someone’s opinion. We broke up X’s opinion. Five stars. You’re gonna rely on someone. X’s opinion. X’s opinion. That’s why this doesn’t work. It doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. I’ll be the first to say it. And now you might be saying, okay, but we’re not looking for a quantitative nu, you know, a number for the, the rating of this person. But is there a qualitative thing? And I just think that that’s what, that’s what your gut is for, right? You gotta trust your gut a little bit here. And the time that you spend with them. However that works. Now, I guess you go to a coffee shop, actions speak louder than, and you figure out if you’re gonna go somewhere else after that. Wow. There’s also Facebook pages that mostly women have where they, if like a guy is known to be a cheater or bad news. Right. That makes sense. They like put that up there and the chicks will be like, a lot of ’em aren’t called, are we dating the same guy? And it’ll, people will find out like, oh yeah, this guy’s dating like five people right now. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, on Facebook. Yeah. Okay. I could see that being a thing. That makes sense. Technology, man. Let’s get to the, the other, the other boss one I was talking about, like hiring and being a boss. Hi Renton Link. My name’s Mary. I need help. I am in a situation, a professional situation. Oh, that. Uh, my boss and I, the very first time I met him, I accidentally hugged him. I don’t know why. I’m not really a big hugger. It just happened. Cool. And now, uh, every time I see him, we hug and I can’t make it stop. I don’t know what to do. How do I, um, politely say that? Uh, I don’t really wanna hug him anymore, or do, how do I go about this? I don’t know. Um, please help. Thanks. I, oh man. I would like to ask a follow up question because I, what is, I’m reading into this, that now he’s expecting a hug and he’s, he’s initiating the hugs each time. I, that’s like, he’s showing up at the top of the meeting, like he’s coming up and he obviously looks like he’s ready for one versus I’m ready for one because it’s, because if it’s the simpler version of this, which is. You can’t help but hug him. Yes, you can. Just so you know. No, it’s mutual. You’re right. It’s mutual. You cannot hug someone. It’s, it is not hard to listen. It’s coming from me. It’s not hard to not hug somebody, trust me. I got friends who are huggers and I kind of just wait for them. I’m like, oh, they wanna hug now. Yeah. You’re not a hugger. I’m just not a hugger. It’s just not my thing. Um, but, so if you do not reciprocate a hug, I can tell you from personal experience that if you don’t initiate then it won’t happen. But they’re both, I initiating It sounds like she initiated and now, and it doesn’t necessarily sound like there’s anything inappropriate happening. Yeah. A workplace hug is, I mean, we don’t do it around here. Yeah. And it’s, it’s not efficient. And it’s not necessary. It’s a little, I mean, I feel for you because you probably hugged your boss because it was just the first meeting of somebody that you wanted to think highly of you. So, ’cause you’re not a hugger, you might, you might have gone into hug mode just for the psychology of it. Like, not even knowing. I also wanna know what kind of job it is. Yeah, I know. Are they, um, you know what, what’s a, what’s a difficult place to hook? Well it sounds like this might be an easy place to hug. That’s what I’m trying to think of. Where are places that you would hug somebody? Here’s what you need to do. You need to always be carrying stuff. I’m talking about a lot of stuff. That’s a good one. You do that for 66 days. Yep. Always be carrying a couple of books. It habit will be broken. You’re always carrying stuff. Um. Yeah. Both hands, like firewood. Even if it’s just a laptop, just go in holding it tight on both sides. Like, like you’re really trying to protect it. Yeah. You don’t wanna burden yourself. You don’t necessarily need to just hurt your back over this. When I’m doing the firewood challenge for the next 6, 6, 6 days, you know, you can get a stack of books from like Marshalls that’s just empty. Oh. Decor books? It’s just decor books. It’s just, they’re all empty and it’s actually just a container to put stuff in. Yeah. And there’s like a stack carry one of those around. And it’s like, she’s a compartment. She’s always got these books and she looks like she’s having no trouble at all carrying them. She’s strong, she’s studious, but she’s not a hugger anymore. And when you sit down and you keep the books in your lap so he doesn’t sit on your lap, I, I don’t think that’s a thing. Probably what’s happening. Yeah. Is he sitting on your lap? Because you need to break that too. ’cause you, you said, I don’t know what to say. Nothing. Do not say anything. Yeah. Don’t, don’t do this. Mm-hmm. Don’t talk to your boss about the hug. Just stop doing it. But you’re gonna have to compensate by being more friendly. Oh. So that he doesn’t think anything of it. That sounds sexist. Oh. Telling a woman to be friendlier. Yeah. I didn’t mean it that way, but I’ll retract it. Um, I don’t think you have to compensate. I think that they’re both A hug is, he’s used to hugging a hug in, in, in the workplace. It’s out of, it’s not completely out of bounds, but it’s not expected. It’s not normal. What’s normal is not hugging. So let’s just take this back to a normal place. It’s not offensive. Whenever you go into a room, find a seat quick. Be the first in the room and you’re seated. That’s another thing. ’cause you got the firewood, you need to, you’re tired. ’cause the thing you don’t want to do. If what you’re thinking is maybe transitioning slowly out of this, you can’t do that. What about a sling? No. That’s too inconvenient. Yeah. Don’t, don’t, don’t move to half hugs. Don’t move to side hugs and don’t try to be like, well now we’re gonna replace this with a handshake because that’s weird. You gonna shake his hand every time he shows up? No. You know, we don’t touch, the only time we touch people around here, here is when it’s part of a bit. Yeah. Yeah. There’s no touching. I mean, I appreciate the fact that you acknowledge that you got yourself into this mess. Yeah. And it is up to you to get yourself out. You’re not talking to your boss about it. If, and you know what? You might get stronger as a result of carrying all that firewood. These are great ideas. I love the carrying an idea, carrying something, an idea, but straight jacket. If you don’t want to do something that’s too disruptive. I think, um, it sounds like you might, you maybe you wear a braier, I don’t know if you do. Um, and yes. What you’re gonna do is you’re going to take a, uh, some kind, I don’t know this, someone’s got to engineer this. You want something like a needle, like something, something hard, a spike, a little spike, a brasier spike, just you put it and you just sit in. I don’t know how it would work. We could figure it out. And so that when he hugs you, there’s a, he gets pricked, you’re pricking his sternum, and he, first, he’s gonna think. Did I just imagine that two, two or three more times of getting pricked every time he hugs you. Yeah. Every time. Just stop, go every time. Going a little deeper. If you want it to be completely passive, I’m just saying hurt him a little bit when he hugs you, that’s just another avenue. I just think of those like you gotta watch it for yourself. The death scenes where like two main characters are struggling and this, you can tell that there’s, it’s the last scene and all of a sudden you see the look on the one guy’s face and he’s like. Oh my gosh. He looks like he’s in pain. And then the person leans in more and you realize that like he’s holding a knife. He’s holding a knife, and he’s just stabbing him. Those are the best scenes. You’re saying just hug your boss and just, ugh. Well, no, it’s, it’s, it’s more just kill him. It’s just more, he doesn’t even know it at first until he finds a little, kill that prick. He finds a little blood spot on his shirt and he’s like, what the hell? What the hell? I got poked somewhere. The sternum. It’s every time she comes in. Now you gotta make sure you take it off before you hug friends. Yeah. I don’t think you need to be hugging anybody because that’s a problem for you, man. That’s tough. I think we solved it though. Yep. Next, uh, hi boys, uh, specifically Rhett this time, even though Link. Love you buddy. Um, it’s Adele from Maine. Um, I am, I I feel like I always say my name. It sounds weird, Adele. Anyway, um, Rhet, I was wondering about the toe socks because I just watched that episode of more, um, where your, your toes came out in the form of white socks and Stevie wanted to hear more, but Link did not. So I’m just curious. I don’t know. I’ve watched a lot of your guys’ content and I haven’t seen this before or heard your rant or positive promotion for toe socks, so please share. Thank you. Love you guys. Bye. You sure you wanna know? You sure you wanna know? You sure you want me to go there? Adele, you sure you want me to open this? Can. Make it quick. Oh, that’s gonna be hard to do. Okay. Okay. I will make it quick and then I’m gonna talk to you about a real issue that I’m experiencing right now. Oh. That goes well beyond tow socks. Oh, okay. I don’t remember how this started. I, but I, I think it might, may have started with our friend Mike. Mm-hmm. Who was talking about shoes and toe spread and zero drop and all this stuff. Right. There’s a weight. People think about feet a lot. People have thoughts about feet, shoes. If your, if your foot is messed up, that’s a big problem. And it’s not just that I started looking into these barefoot shoes. A barefoot shoe is essentially a shoe that has, there’s three characteristics that I could think of off the top of my head. The first is, I. Zero drop, meaning that there’s no elevation to your heel. Your heel on almost every shoe that you would wear. In modern society, your heel is a little bit further off the ground or sometimes a lot further off the ground than your toes, so you’re a little bit inclined. So this is not inclined. They’re completely straight the way that your foot has adapted to the environment to walk around. The second thing is there’s very little support. There’s enough to keep. Like a rock from going into your skin, but you feel the ground and the way that’s sort of representative of the way it would’ve been if you’re walking around barefoot. Mm-hmm. And then the third thing is your toe box and your, your, your shoe is spread out so your toes can be naturally spread out. So if you look at, in any indigenous culture that walks around barefoot all the time, their feet are much stronger, their toes are much wider, and they’re like using their feet in the way that our feet evolved in these natural environments. And they’re strong. They can grab shit with their feet. You know, they can do interesting things with their toes, but in most like civilized culture, our feet are like shoved into this narrow toe box and we don’t use them and they basically become dumb. You probably, if you’re listening, have dumb toes and you can’t do individual things with your toes. Maybe, maybe not. And you might say, well, what’s the, what’s the problem with all this? Well. The problem with this can be that this is the place where your body makes contact with the ground and every single thing that happens and every single shock and every single, you know, mechanical thing that’s happening at your feet propagates itself through your entire system. And if you’re somebody like me who is six seven, getting older already has back problems, already has knee problems, you can exacerbate that because you’re just, even though you might have like a bunch of cushion on your feet, you’re banging around, you’re landing on your heels, you’re doing all this stuff and you’re sending these shockwaves basically through your body. So I was like, interesting. You know me, I always have something that I want to be interested in and explore. So I got some of these barefoot shoes and I got them, uh, I got like a pair of boots, I got a pair of workout shoes. I got a pair of hiking shoes. ’cause you kind of have to begin to make the transition to these barefoot shoes. And I’m happy to report that my back hasn’t hurt in like two and a half months, maybe three months. I used to wake up every single morning. Now my, I’m, I’m in pretty good shape now and I’ve been in my back’s, been in pretty good shape for years, ever since I have done all these exercises and I work on my, like, I do all the exercises for it, maintain flexibility, but I still would wake up every morning with my back hurting, and then I’d be like, oh gosh, I gotta go do my thing. And then the foot change within a week. Really? Within a week. And this could just be total coincidence, but it doesn’t feel like it. I also, I’ve been having knee issues, you know, I tore a ligament skiing a couple years ago and I’ve got some weird things that happened with my other knee that has gone away. I had tendonitis in one of my knees when I would hike and it would get really, really bad, like in like in my patella. Gone. Yeah, I have that right now. Because what’s happening is, is I’m doing, you naturally, when you wear these shoes, you do what’s called a midfoot strike. The number of YouTube videos about this is just phenomenal. I just love the internet. And that the guys who actually care about this are like nerding out right now, which is a very small percentage of the population. I, but here I’m gonna do it. But you end up doing this midfoot strike instead of this like completely like mindless heel strike, right? Which is not how you’re supposed to walk, and you just end up walking different everywhere you go, and then your toes begin to spread because they’ve got room. And this helps with balance. And all of a sudden you’ve got more balance when you’re barefoot. And I, I mean, I’m a tall man, you start getting older. Falling down is like one of the leading causes of death when you get older because you lose balance, you fall down, you break your hip, then you die. You know, it’s like over a certain age you fall down and break your hip. You die. And so I’m just thinking about all this back and all this. Here’s the main part. Okay. Okay. So in the toe socks, so I was talking to Mike about this and he basically was like, wait till you try toe socks because theoretically if your toes are moving independently of one another, you, you’re experiencing even more spread and even more, ’cause I got a toe spreader that I like wear when I’m like watching tv. Like getting the toes spread out. Like for a pedicure. Yeah, exactly. And it begins to like, your pinky toe starts waking up and it’s like, oh, I’m okay. Little picky is going to the market, you know, like he’s ready. And so I started doing this and I have experienced this pretty, this transformation. And when I was at Machu Picchu, I wore barefoot hiking shoes, the whole day hiking, and my feet felt great. Like your feet hurt a little bit at the end of the day in a, like a, I’ve been walking type way, but your back and your knees don’t. So I’ll take that any day. And what is the, what’s the brand name you’re buying from? ’cause multiple, so there’s a, there’s Viba, which is V-I-B-A-E, and they have like a popup shop here in la. They got one in Malibu too. And it’s technically not barefoot, like there’s a little bit more support in the back, but like, it’s a, there’s a toe spread and I’ve got a couple pairs. I’ve got like a pair of tennis shoes from them and a couple pair of like boot type things. But then there’s the one that everybody who knows about this knows about, which is Vivo barefoot, which is, they probably sell more of these than anybody. And I got my hiking shoes from them and they’re great. I’ve bought. Shoes from limbs. Limbs. So I took limbs to Peru, which I’m a, I’m, I’m a fan of limbs. Limbs are wide toe box LEMS. So they’re wide toe box zero drop more support than vivo, barefoot for sure. They’re not technically a barefoot shoe, but they’re way better than your typical walking around shoe. I wore that’s, that was my day-to-day walking around shoe in Peru. So anyway, I got the toe socks for the toe spread, but I am backing off of them because I don’t, I actually, in my estimation, over the past month, they haven’t made a difference. The only difference that they’ve made is it takes longer to get my damn socks on. Yeah. Which is annoying. It’s, and so it’s, I’m backing off of that. It, it’s, and then when people have to see it, it’s a little, but here’s the real problem. This is the problem. There’s a reason that they make shoes that are a little bit elevated in the back, and the toes are a little bit pointed because they look better. Like we have decided as a human race that these shoes look better and a shoe that looks more like a foot. I mean, God forbid, the ones with the actual toes in the actual, I, I’m not gonna do that. Don’t worry. I’m not gonna be the guy who wears the foot glove. Yeah. But the issue is, and I tried to do this, I got a pair, I wore them to that kickback, uh, a few weeks ago. Okay. Yeah. At the creative house. Yes. Because I was like, I’m gonna be amongst friends and I’ve got these. Black boots that are like lace up boots. And the sole is literally this thin, like three millimeters and it’s just flat all the way across. That’s so there’s nothing on the bottom. And then they’re leather and they’re shaped like your foot, so they’re kind of bulbous. And I put ’em on and I was like, these look like clown shoes. I know they look like clown shoes, but maybe, maybe I can pull it off. Maybe I can begin to be a part of the trend that makes, it’s just function becomes the form. You’re amongst friends. I was trying it in a friendly setting and so I wore ’em and I and I, I kind of had my foot up and Jenny, our friend, was looking at it and I was like, what do you think about these? You asked because I could tell she was thinking something. Yeah. And I said, I. You know, they’re bare. She didn’t say anything. I said, well, they’re, you know, ’cause your husband, this is Mike’s wife. I was like, yeah, uh, you know, I, they’re like, ergonomic, you know, this is why I’m doing this or whatever. And I said, I think they look a little bit like clown shoes. She was like, yeah, I was gonna say they look like clown shoes. Especially ’cause they’re a black boot, right? Yeah. So I just don’t, I haven’t, I haven’t worn him since it kind of scared me off and I just don’t know if I’ve got some things are more important than full body health. Right? That’s the thing is that I. You never go full final. Like, I’ve got these, this is a brand, this is, these are not barefoot, these Ps but like they have very little support and they’re very thin and it’s, and you know, but it’s pretty tradit. It’s pretty traditional. Shoes are great. They have no support. They’re very thin. It’s like wearing nothing. It’s no, but that’s the thing. You think you want support And some people who have medical conditions, they have to have the support. ’cause I got those hokas for a while and I was like walking around like I was walking on clouds. Yeah. You know what I’m saying? But that was last year. That was last year. But then what I have found is I don’t want that. I, I have a pair of, I have a pair of tennis shoes that I’ve taken the insoles out and it’s just the sole, the rubber solace, like that thing that I’m walking on. And I went on a four mile walk through my, on the rock, on the road, in my neighborhood in these things. And like, you just walk completely different because you like how they look. No, I, no, no. ’cause I’m trying, I’m training my feet, my feet are getting stronger. And I wanted to see what’s gonna happen. 10 years ago, if I took a four mile walk in any pair of shoes, by the time I got back to my on, on a road, by the time I got back to my house, my back would be hurting, my knees would be hurting. I get back, my feet hurt a little bit, but that’s the only thing. And then you just get off of them and they’re fine. So I’m a big proponent of this, and maybe if I could talk enough people into going with this barefoot shoe trend. Mm-hmm. And going with the wide toe box. I got into a pair, it’ll become a style. I got into a pair of, uh, Nike High tops the other day. And I was like, I cannot believe what is happening to my toes right now. It felt like toes that were supposed to be like that were like this, and I immediately took ’em off. I was like, I can’t do this. I cannot do this. It feels so restrictive. I gotta spread my toes. So anyway, join this journey with me. You know, come on this barefoot shoe journey with me, and we’ll have big clown shoes, clown eyes. We’ll, we’ll go around in a big old car and like 25 of us will get outta the car. It’ll be like, oh shit, how many people are in that car with those barefoot shoes on? Is this a clown troop? I mean, the limbs I think look good, and they’re like, but they don’t, I don’t think there’s, I didn’t miss when I wasn’t wearing ’em or when I don’t wear ’em. You haven’t. You haven’t fully adapted. I always hiked to ’em. With ’em. You haven’t fully adapted. And they, and I got shepherd a pair of limbs for the Peru trip and he wore them and it was like a no, you know, he was fine. It wasn’t like, oh man, these are less comfortable. Yeah. And they fold up real, you know, you can like pack ’em every, that’s the thing about all these barefoot shoes, they’re so minimalist. You could take like seven pairs of shoes with you on a trip because they all just get. Well, I have one ugly pair of shoes. When you can have more. Yes. See, when you call us, you fuel these type of conversations. Some of them we like, some of them we don’t. I didn’t like that conversation. Yep. But you asked for it, right? And uh, Rhett gave it to you. I mean, some of you tuned out, that’s fine. And some of you liked it. This isn’t for you. That was for, that was for you. It wasn’t for you. It was for you, you know. So thank you for calling in with your quandaries questions and, um, quests. 1 8 8 8. Ear pod one, one. We’ll speak at you next week. And I don’t say this often, but I’m gonna say it now. Leave us a review. Uh, wherever you listen. Yeah. I’m told that it helps. Thank you for doing that. Bye-bye. Hey, Rhett and Link. Um, this isn’t so much a question as it is something cool that I thought you might wanna uh hear. Um, my name’s Kate. 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