Welcome to “Ear Biscuits”, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Link. And I’m Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are answering some of your questions and we are reminding you, like we’re going to be doing over the next couple of months, that… The star is fading. We are taking an indefinite hiatus from “Ear Biscuits” starting in January, and so there’s only a couple more months’ worth. I’d say eight episodes, including this one left of “Ear Biscuits”. Oh my gosh. And we’re all coping with it, y’all. We’re getting the voicemails and I’m still feeling good about the decision for us personally. Well, you sound like you’re trying to, like. I don’t wanna rub it in. You’re trying to like remind, like get yourself… It sounded like that was for you. No, I’m just saying, we’re getting voicemails and people are sad and I’m like, well, okay, we’re not changing our mind. Matter of fact, I’m phoning this in entirely. Oh, good, good. So what’s gonna be different? What? I like the fact that that type of joke is like, it would kill at like a breakfast-like gathering amongst retired men who are reading the newspaper. What? I remember that whenever I would stay with my papa some days and he would be working, but I wouldn’t, I guess it would be if I stayed there during the summer. Some mornings he would take me to go get breakfast with his buddies and he would be in his police uniform just ready to work Ready to work. and we would go in there and we’d sit down in the diner in Lillington and it would be him and there’d be like, a county commissioner might be there, there might be a judge. There was a judge there or maybe a lawyer. There was definitely suits there, but then there was also some farmers coming in and out and I just thought it was really cool that, like, you’d have this guy in overalls and a hat like you’re wearing today, and then a dude in a suit going to do some lawyering and then the police officer. It was very “Mayberry”. Right, yeah. And some of the people would be, the whole restaurant, it’d be different tables, but the conversation was kind of open across tables. What place would do you eat breakfast? I remember where it was, but I don’t remember what it was called and it hasn’t been there for many, many years. It was on the outskirts of town, kind of towards… Going back towards Boots Creek. But anyway, there’d be people reading the newspaper. I remember that. And then that somebody would make a joke and it would be a little louder and other tables would be included in the conversation. And I didn’t like eggs. Okay. I remember that about it too. Oh, okay, I thought maybe it was a mean joke. What else do you want me to say? I mean, and I’m just telling you the things I remember about it. It was a splendid little… There was something about being in community where like, oh, Era has passed. I’m going to this place. Like you think about it today- I go there once or twice a week and I know I’m gonna see people. Like if we go to breakfast. I don’t see nobody I know. But you know what? We did. Well okay, okay. You mentioned where we did brunch in Los Feliz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you’re trying to say this the same thing? No, I’m just saying that the closest, this is gonna sound so Hollywood, but the closest that we get to this is we went fo breakfast in Los Feliz the other day, which if you don’t know, Los Feliz is like “The Neighborhood.” It’s where we lived right when we got here before we knew anything about LA, and then we realized that trying to have a house with a yard there was something we couldn’t afford, so we- Haven’t stayed in a cooler place since. Yeah, but we went over there do some work. Well, I’m talking about the restaurant. All Time. All Time. All Time’s good. They know how to do their eggs. We had a, but you don’t like eggs, so you don’t really care. I like eggs now. But we’re sitting there, getting ready to go in and the way that you order there is you order at the front and then you sit down. It’s just kind of an interesting system. But we’re waiting and so we’re out there on- It’s like standing on the curb On the curb, on the sidewalk, and we see one Ben Schwartz sitting out there in front of the restaurant. Sonic the Hedgehog just sitting out there, waiting by himself. Come on, now. You can do better than that. Jean-Ralphio. Okay, yes. Because yeah, okay, let’s be real. All right, because you can’t tell he’s Sonic other than his voice, I guess. So he’s just sitting out there, you know, friend of the show, he’s been on like five different “Mythical” things over the years. Basically everything that we do, we’ve put him on it. Because I remember he came on GMM for the first time and it was back when we could sing the titles of the… “It’s time for” and then we did a title with him sitting there in the middle and it was a send-up of Hall and Oats’ “Kiss On My list” and you sang it, Right. and you like fully committed to it right there beside him. And I could just see, you know, this was like 10 minutes after we first met him. And I could tell that you committed to it and he immediately like, lit up, and he was like, woo, okay, I know where I’m at now. And ’cause that’s totally, he lives in a world of comedic commitment. He had a stage show that was 100% improvised. Yes. And he invited us to it and we didn’t go, which was a mistake. We couldn’t go. But then he came back and then he was on “Mythical Kitchen”, he was on “Last Meals”. I think he was on “First Meals” as well. He’s a great guy. The reason I’m not paying, I’m paying attention to you. I’m ignoring you ignore me. I’m trying to find the Instagram of those guys that we met ’cause I want- Oh yeah ’cause we met. Well we were about to meet, we were about to say hello to Ben and after we ordered, I think, or. And then two other guys came up to us, which we immediately recognized them. Rhett’s trying to remember what their names are. Did did he message you on Instagram? I don’t think so. Have you seen these guys on TikTok and they’re the most wholesome buddies in the woods, like hiking, and they say things Yes, I found ’em. to each other like, “Hey buddy, look at that rock. Isn’t that a beautiful rock?” It’s called We Love You. Those We Love You guys. It’s called We Love You. They’re like the sweetest, it’s like the sweetest friendship. I’m gonna follow them back right now. Not Swedish, but sweetest. Like wholesome. I’m gonna follow them back right now and then he did message me. It’s just, you know, I don’t check these messages. So what are their names? You need to follow, if you like hiking and friendship and just good vibes and a relief from the stress of life, follow We Love You on wherever you can follow them because they’re just, it just makes you a little bit happy. These two friends are unabashedly friends They said their names, but- in the woods together. That’s how I would describe it. They’re the ones that go like, hey man, hey man. Yeah, and we met ’em in person and they came up to us and they were like, hey man, hey man. And we’re like, yeah, we know you. And they’re like, they said they were huge fans. They were talking about “Wonderhole”, which always means a lot. When a fan comes up and talks about “Wonderhole” or feels like they gotta say something about “Wonderhole”. That’s the real deal right there. That’s it. That’s it for us. And so we talked to them for a while and they were like, “We want to do a best friends off with you guys.” And then we got a picture and then they left. They walked away as we were looking at the menu, I look up from the menu and they’re talking to Ben Schwartz ’cause they saw and recognized him and then Ben saw us. Yeah. And so then he came over and talked to us, but they were still there. So then they got So then all five of us were talking another picture. and we took a picture of all of us. Yeah, so instead of newspapers and crispy bacon, it was selfies and, I don’t know, berets. No one was wearing a beret, but you could get away with it there. We could have all been wearing Berets and no one would’ve said anything, you know? And then we went inside and Casey Affleck was eating in there. We don’t know him, but he’s a member of the community. He’s a member of the. I recognized him. I didn’t see him. Was he reading the paper? And then there was a couple other people who were coming in and they were like, oh, it’s you guys. You know, there’s a- It’s you guys. It’s you guys. That’s a level of recognition. Anyway, that’s our version of Lillington breakfast. You know, it’s just a little bit, it’s just a little bit different, but it’s essentially the same. Isn’t that nice? Maybe we should do that more often. There’s a couple of places around where we live where I think that could happen. Having been in LA for now 14 years, I will say, the number of times that Jessie and I are just out, where we run into somebody we know, like the frequency has gone up quite a bit. Like actually it begins to feel a little bit more like home. Like when you’re back home and you go around, oh hey, I see you. Yeah. That is happening more and more. That’s nice, isn’t it? Like if you go- Carry a paper. Like when you go to a party and it’s a party that isn’t amongst close friends, but you have this, this is important for me because I like to talk to people that I know, not people that I don’t know and so… And you know, I love to talk to people I don’t know because the stakes are low. Yeah, well, there’s some stories I can tell you. Burn the bridge while it’s building, you know? Low stakes, but go ahead. But I like knowing that I might run into somebody I know. And then that that’s my- You do. Then all of a sudden that was a way to talk to other people that you don’t know in the context of someone that you do know. I understand in a party, but if you go back to brunch, do you, Rhett, really wanna see people that you know? Do you really want to have small talk in like a brunch-mosphere? Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like farmer’s market sphere? I mean, I have always been happy. I mean, maybe there’s some people I don’t want to run into, but- I think it’s the most low-hanging fruit of a place to be able to have small talk, is at brunch. Because brunch is, by definition, just anything. Anything goes, I’m not in a rush. You hit to B real hard in brunch. Brrrunch. I never heard anybody roll a B. Do it again? Brrunch. It’s like a new letter. My lips are… You made a new B. I got an injection. Have you heard the new B? Link’s saying it. Brrunch. Brrunch. Brrunch. Brrunch, brrunch. Brrunch, brrunch, I love that. Brrunch, it bounces. It feels good, yeah. But you can’t do it on bounce, you can brrunch. It’s gotta be a BR. It’s brrunch, brrunch, brrunch. You like brrunch? I like that, that’s good. I’m glad you came up with a new letter. What about lackadaisical? I don’t want, don’t, no, one at a time. One at a time. I can’t learn two vocabulary words. Anytime I need one, brunch, brunch. Brunch is the best place for small talk with people that are going by. I like sitting down at brunch with somebody and it’s so laid back, you don’t even have to talk to that person. You can just wait for someone else to come up to talk to you. You’re saying while you’re at brunch with someone? Yeah. I went to brunch, brrunch last Saturday and this morning I made another brrunch appointment with somebody different. You know a good place you should go for brunch is, boy, I’m not gonna remember the name of it. You know how when you go down to Frogtown and there is- Yeah, I’ll tell you where I’m going Saturday. There is the river, there’s a Los Angeles River and then there is a bike slash walking path. Yeah. And as you’re on that waterfront there in Frogtown, they really clean it up nice and there’s all kinds of exits along there that you can just walk to. And there’s a one place, which is the bike shop slash breakfast spot. You know about that place. Yes. It’s a bike shop and a breakfast spot and it’s very popular. Spoke? Spoke. Spoke is great, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Okay. There’s Spoke and if I’m in the river looking at Spoke, to the right of that, there’s another restaurant. To the right. I’m gonna figure it out. And it’s very good. Oh. And boy, I wish I knew the name of it. Lingua Franca? Yes, Lingua Franca. Okay. So French Tongue? I think so. That’s a good little restaurant. French kiss. It’s a great place for brunch and it’s a little bit nicer. If you’re not on a bike? If you go to Spoke, you’re like, everybody’s like Spandex. sweaty and biking. But this is like, hey, we’re just here to eat. So you and Jesse walk down the bike path? We did and we walked all the way down. I actually went into every single little path that you could go to ’cause there’s people put these little signs up- Like dog sniffing. People put these little signs up like, trinkets and gifs and thrift and vintage and so it’s all the hipster stuff that people are into like coffee and vintage clothes and stuff like that. Berets. And we went down every path and I actually, I got a T-shirt that says Frogtown on it. I just had a great idea for something I’d like to sell there. You can get in on it ’cause I know you’re gonna love this idea. Okay. This is the next thing. Oh my God, I’m getting excited, dude. Okay. This is perfect for one of these little signs off Frogtown. Don’t build it up too much. Yeah, listen to me. Well, you’re still on the microphone. Listen to this, come in close. Gourmet bespoke gravies. Did you say gravies? Gravies. It’s the next thing, dude. Jars of different gravy. Not broths, gravies. Okay, tell me more. I’m talking like gravies for all occasions. Lavender gravy. I knew you were gonna say lavender. I knew it was gonna come to lavender gravy. I shouldn’t have started there. It’s gonna be horrible, man. That’s horrible. It’s more like, chicken fried steak gravy just right there and it’s like good for dipping. You don’t make chicken fried steak with it, you do something else with it. You dip stuff in it. So the thing that you’re gonna have, the challenge in this Mozzarella sticks. is going to be making jarred gravy good because the thing that makes gravy good usually is the fact that it’s fresh. And a lot of times if you get that gravy from the grocery store that’s canned. Well what is this, “Shark Tank”? And you warm it up, I’m just saying it’s lacking. So I think this is gonna be a, this isn’t gonna be selling it, this is gonna be a restaurant that’s got multiple gravies. Gravy Town probably is what we’re gonna call it. Gravy. So it’s got a buffet of, instead of like a salsa bar. Or let’s get gravy, getting gravy. I think you just call it gravy. But it’s a gravy bar instead of a salsa bar. There should restaurant called gravy, first of all. You order something and then you go over to the gravy bar and you get the different gravies. Okay, all right. Thin gravy, thick gravy. Black gravy, black gravy. Molasses gravy? Yeah, white gravy, black gravy, green gravy, yes. Verde gravy, Verdavy. I’m sure. Look, it sells itself. If if you’re out, I’ll find someone else. You gotta have a proof of concept though, I mean. Gravy is already a proof of concept. But different types of gravy. I mean we’ve been- I’m sure you can sell it in a jar. I’m sure. Okay, I’m just saying, I’m just presenting the, Shake vigorously. I’m just trying to keep your feet on the ground here. Well, not shake vigor. I think the liquid ones you shake vigorously, but the others you just, you invert delicately. There’s sausage in there. Okay. Or bison. They’re gonna want that. But you gotta heat gravy up. I will sell a special lid that is USB powered, USB charged, and it heats the gravy as it pours out of the jar. And you can take it on a plane. Gravy on a plane. That’s gonna be a hard sell. Come on, dude. Okay I’m just saying there’s some engineering- What, the emotion was here and look at what you’re doing with it. Yeah, but here’s the thing about gravy, gravy has a lot of fat in it and that’s why if you let real good gravy sit out, it congeals, right? Like you have to heat it up. So what they do with the gravy that they put in the jars is they add like hydrogenized, you know, type things to keep. I’m just saying this is an engineering problem that I don’t know if I’m prepared address. Okay, all right, all right. Well I’m not opening a restaurant. Yeah, that would be a mistake. But a gravy bar. I did have a great thing. Gravy and mezcal. If you go to Lingua Fresca, Lingua Franca. Franco. I almost just got a regular latte, but then I got kind of talked into a molasses foam latte ’cause it was like, the guy was like, this is our specialty and it was an espresso with some milk and then on top it was espresso infused molasses. No, molasses infused whipped cream. I don’t know, yeah, that’s what it was. That sounds okay. It was incredible and I drank it so fast. Why’d you drink it so fast? Because it was so little. Because it was so little. I couldn’t help it. And did you almost get hit by bikers? No, but my wife did. Of course she did. Bub and Grandmas in Eagle Rock, you ever been there? No. I’m going there for brunch this weekend. I thought you were gonna say they got multiple gravies. Bub and Grandma sounds like the type of place that would have a gravy bar. I’m gonna talk to them about it. I’ll have a little collab. If they have good gravy, I’ll be like, listen, I’m gonna come in, I’m gonna work with you on this. But what are you going to do besides just come up DJ. with the names for the gravy? I’m DJing. Okay, DJ Gravy. Nope, I’ll be middle-aged gravy. Yeah, I like that, I like that. Middle aged gravy. That’s a reference to something. Oh yeah, to Yung Gravy. Yung Gravy. Okay, if you have to explain it, it’s not funny anymore. Banking doesn’t have to be complicated or full of hidden fees. Chime offers a simple, modern way to manage your money and make every dollar count. With Chime, you can get paid up to two days early with direct deposit, enjoy fee free overdraft coverage, and open a checking account with no monthly or maintenance fees. 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Also wanted to just point out regarding his comment that he wanted his round televised, there are a couple of opportunities for celebrity amateurs to get on television. Maybe the most famous is the American Century Championship, which has played each summer in Nevada. It’s also the Pebble Beach Pro-AM, which is a part of the official PGA tour schedule. Rhett, would you have any interest in doing that? Because I think it would be super cool for the Mythical Beast to kind of see your game. Other than that, thank you guys for everything. Been a fan for a long time. See your game. Hey listen, he asked you a question as if you were gonna answer. Yes, I would be interested. There you go, Pebble Beach. I mean, I might dress up as a caddy for that one. I rode my bike on the edge. You’ll only be dressed up, but you will not be functioning as a caddy. Listen, I wanna take advantage of this. What is that supposed to mean? I’m just saying a caddy is very helpful. All right, whatever. You gotta have a functional caddy who knows. I mean, half of the reason I played well at that course is because the caddy was so knowledgeable. Like literally, I just- I thought you’d say because I wasn’t there. Because everything he said was, I mean every single time. In fact- Did he hit it for you? I think this is why the pros are so good. Let me just make a controversial statement. Every single time I got up to a shot, I would grab a club based on what I know about myself and he would come up and he would be like, okay, it’s 185 but you need to play your 205 club here and you need to aim here. And I would just be like, yes sir and I did it. And I mean, I listened to him every single time. Oh, well you didn’t tell us that. It’s crazy that somebody who’s a caddy, full-time caddy on that course and he just knows everything about the course. I didn’t even know there was a club called a 205. What is that? Another driver? That’s how far it goes. So the club that you hit 185. Oh. Or the club that you, I would bring my 185 club and he would say, no, you need to think 20 yards further because of wind or elevation or sometimes it’s just what I know about the green here and where you need to be and you wanna be on the back or whatever. Stuff that you just don’t know. And I think that’s why the pros are so good ’cause they got people telling ’em what to do. That’s it, it’s not the practice, it’s not the long hours, it’s not the skill that they’ve fine tuned over many years, it’s the caddies. Okay. Caddies need to be making all the money. And they can dress any way they want, right? No. Oh. So- Who can dress any way they want? ‘Cause that’s who I wanna be. No one, spectators. And not even really spectators. Not even really spectators. There’s a dress code for the audience in golf. Okay. There’s standards here. Well, I know I can’t be a commentator ’cause I can’t sustain a whisper. Back to you. Yeah, so here’s the thing, I want to do this, I’ve been telling the people who helped me make these things happen that I wanna play in these things, but I don’t think that I have put in the specific request for something as ambitious as like the Pebble Beach Pro-AM. But I think I need, yes, yes, I need to do this. I need to do this. And you know what? I’ll play more than four times a year and get- That’s what I’m concerned about. Actually get good. Maybe get some lessons for once, you know? But I did recently win a tournament. I will say that, of course I have, I was on a team. How do you answer the fact that you bested the best player in golf on this hole four times over? Well, because I mean, odds are, every once in a while, somebody like me is gonna hit it on the green. That just happened to be my day. Yeah, I did say though and I was trying to communicate this to you and the audience and for people who don’t have a point of reference, when I said I was, you know, 30 feet from the hole in one shot, it might be like, okay. But I said, it’s the best shot I’ve ever hit in my life, probably, definitely top five. That’s what I was trying to communicate because it’s so difficult to hit it within that small of a space from that distance. And so that’s why I was like, I mean, it didn’t go in the hole. I’ve never had a hole in one. I’ve gotten close a few times, never had a hole in one, but that in my book is almost as good as a hole in one because it’s just- And you’re gonna ride that shot all the way to Pebble Beach. I mean listen, man. So you gotta reach out to this guy. I mean, it seems like he’s got strings he’s pulling. Probably. Yeah, we can find a way. We can find a way. Because that is the thing is that the ones that I’ve played in so far are definitely like, it’s very, it’s low key. There’s people watching you on a couple of holes, but there’s no crowds, there’s no, because people only show up when there’s actual pros playing. Like when we went on Rob Lowe’s podcast and he was talking about playing with Andrew Schauffele, I think that was at one of those things. And I think the hard sell here is gonna be the people who make these decisions. Don’t know who you are. Thinking that me being there makes any sense, right? This is the same reason why it’s hard for us to like. Well you got an in and- Get like a brand endorsement or whatever. You did win the tournament. Because people don’t, like, they’re like, okay, person who’s on police drama on NBC, yes, you can play in this tournament, but guy with popular internet show that’s been around for 13 or 14 years, no, you don’t get to do it because we don’t know who you are, right? So the young people in the PGA. Maybe we can’t win a Emmy, but maybe you can play golf. Okay, all right. We’ll see what we can do, I’m gonna work on it. Is your heart leaping within you? ‘Cause there’s two ways to respond to this, you could be excited or you could be about to shit your pants of nerves. Oh no, I’m excited. So you’re not nervous? You’re not like, do I really want to do this? I play better when there’s people watching. Just like there’s something about my personality that’s like, Okay. you put a TV camera on me, I’m locked in at that point. I already knew what face you gonna be making. He’s like, I wish he was having fun. I doesn’t look like it. No, no, uh-uh, no, no. Have you seen Bill Murray play golf? He’s like, Bill Murray is always in these things. He’s always in the Pebble Beach program. Well, of course he is. He made golf famous. He’s good. He and that puppet. No, I’m not saying I’m gonna be as funny as Bill Murray. My style of humor is not to be like, Mr. Cracking the joke. Funny. Yeah, my style of humor is not funny. It is not to be Mr. Cracking the jokes the entire time. I’m telling you I need to be there. I could be the cart girl coach. I could be the cart girl team coach. How about you be the cart girl? I could be the cart girl. I’ll work my way up. Yeah. I’ll work my way up. You know what, that could be kind of funny. If we could be like, we’ve got an idea, let Rhett play in the tournament and just Link wants to be one of the cart girls. I’m not gonna dress like I did in “Buddy System” season one. You don’t have to dress. You remember like, I did not write that joke. Remember when I was in like the short jean shorts and the crop top and I was holding the sign? Yeah. What was the joke? It was like sharp and then I was being pimped. Oh yeah, yeah because Paige Kennedy’s character. He made it, yeah, it was “Buddy System” season two, He made a cameo as my pimp. But what was I doing? I was selling, I had a sign. I don’t remember what- He was trying to get you to do something, but the way that he, it it was a commentary on exploitation. Yes, it was, yes it was. And it was probably problematic on several levels, but it was 10 years ago and we probably wouldn’t do it again. And we don’t even remember it. I don’t remember. And it wasn’t our idea. I don’t remember the exact joke. I remember that day. I was like, this is not my idea. Here I am. Well I can’t confirm or deny if it was my idea. I was in the writer’s room. It was a Michael Jamon idea. I know for a fact it was. Oh, you specifically remember? Yeah, he wanted to get me in the short shorts. Okay. Okay. He also taught me what a fupa was. Yep. So I don’t know, you know, not a great influence. Let’s hear another one. Hi Rhett and Link. my name is Ashley, I live in California. I have been watching “Good Mythical Morning” and listening to “Ear Biscuits” since I was in sixth grade. I’m now 23, so long time. Anyway, I have been recently seeing some “Dancing With The Stars” content and people are showing what celebrities or who they would like to see on the show. I’ve seen a couple people post Rhett on there, Link’s been on there a couple times. I wanna see what you guys think about that. Would you be open to being on a show like “Dancing With The Stars” or yeah? I would love to hear. Thanks, love you guys. Bye. Now, before you say anything, I’m gonna go ahead and cut you off at the knees and say uh-uh. “Dancing With The Stars” is not my golf. No sir. You knew exactly where I was going. No, sir, uh-huh. Don’t you even go there. It’s much higher profile than playing one tournament. I mean, if you were on “Dancing With The Stars”, moms in Middle America wouldn’t shut up about it. Just think about it. It would be absolutely electric in Ohio. Yeah, I’ve never watched. I’ve seen little clips of it and they, the guy who is married to the girl and they’re both on there or they both been on there. He was on “Good Mythical Morning”. Derek Hough? Derek Hough. Derek Hough, great guy I think. I mean, I’m not gonna, he seems like a great guy, but I just don’t know. I have not heard any bad stuff. Okay, we not heard anything bad about him. You have to be careful these days. I know, you gotta be careful. I don’t know. But he came on the show and then I saw- They’re brother and sister. Oh. Oh, they’re brother and sister? Derek and Julian. Well then that, and they’re dating? They do look alike. Yeah, they’re brother and sister. Siblings are dating. Oh, okay. All right, all right. Does that change things for you? Thanks for clearing that up. You’re welcome. But proceed. I mean, I didn’t know that. They have the same last name. What else do you know? I know that Steve Irwins son is on there. I was gonna say some nice things about him and I liked him. But before I said everything else I’m gonna say about “Dancing With The Stars” ’cause I don’t think it’s gonna be positive. Okay, Andy Richter was on there. Steve Irwin’s really good at it. I don’t care and I’m not saying that I know, it’s fine. to you, I’m just saying that in general that I just don’t care about “Dancing With The Stars”. It just seems like, and fast forward two years from now and I will be doing it, but like. Y’all hate dancing though. I hate, I hate, it’s not that I hate it, I just don’t care about it and there’s something about it that it’s for old people. The show? The show is for old people. I don’t know if that’s true, man. It’s not, “So You Think You Can Dance”. Now that’s for young people. And that’s not on the air anymore, as far as I know. I don’t know what it’s for. I think there’s some young people that like it. Yeah. Yeah, there’s quite a lot of young people who like “Dancing With The Stars”. Oh. My reservation. Network television? Yeah. Young people watching network television just to watch washed up celebrities dance. Hey, hey. Hey, Robert Erwin is not washed up. Hey, hey, hey. don’t say that. Well, that’s what I’m gonna be when I go on it. Okay, well, you wait until you’re washed up, but here’s the thing. Am I getting confused with “Mask Singer”? Yes. People also want us on that in every season. If there’s a duo, people are like, that’s Rhett and Link, every season. everyone thinks we’re on “Masked Singer”. Without question if there’s two people together, if will be Rhett and Link. I couldn’t do it for, I mean, I couldn’t do it. You couldn’t do it and I talking about dancing. I could do “Masked Singer”. Yes, I’m talking about the “Dancing With The Stars”. We couldn’t dance with a star. No, I mean, here’s the thing and this is just a little bit about me. You know, I’m prideful and I’m good. I am good, I’m good at a lot of things. Oh God. And I like to do to do the things that I’m good at. I am horrible at dancing and I don’t like the idea of just going on national television to be the first time that all these people are seeing me just being this giraffe, baby giraffe trying to not fall down. I just, there’s too many other things. I wanna be at Pebble Beach playing in the Pro-AM. Maybe that’s what I want. You know what I’m saying? I know, I know. I don’t wanna be doing something that I’m horrible at. Gimme something that I might succeed at. I’m great at doing things I’m horrible at. Well then maybe this is for you. Maybe that is my, that’s kind of my thing a little bit, right? Yeah. I do have pride. We might need to think about this a little bit. But I take pride in being made a complete idiot at different things. Maybe this is it. But I would be eliminated around one. Here’s the thing. It’s not like “The Gong Show”, is it? Being bad at it is not celebrated. Like being comic, there is no comic. Cringe. in my experience in the like, clips that I’ve seen ’cause I don’t think I’ve ever watched the show. Never seen anybody bad. There’s never like, oh, this went viral because this person’s so bad and it was funny to the judges. Like the judges are so serious about dancing that they’re encouraging or whatever, but I don’t think that being bad at it is a good thing. I’m pro dancing, but I’m just not pro, you know, I like people getting in their body and moving and like dance like nobody’s watching, you know? It’s just, there’s a freedom in it and it’s a powerful positive thing. I’m for it, but dancing competition is just not for me. Now I did see, is that the show where there’s the one woman with the abdominal muscles? Well, there’s a lot of women with the abdominal. Oh yeah, yeah. But there’s one in particular that I’ve seen. She’s like doing an interview and she’s belly breathing and like, she’s got like 24 abs. I mean, probably That sounds like a dancer. She’s wearing sequences, sequins, she’s wearing sequins. Sequences? Sequences upon sequences. Yeah, yeah. I know so little about this, but it’s- That would be an interesting dynamic too because for your partner, you’re basically spending, you know, it’s pretty intimate. You’re like, you’re with this young, beautiful, athletic woman for like weeks on end throwing her. First of all, how could I throw? I can’t throw anybody in the air, I got a bad back. But you know, that would be an interesting dynamic. Maybe that’s something you should explore. What about massage with the stars? I’d do that or okay, hiking with the stars. Kevin Nealon already did that. Oh. I don’t know, I can’t think. Gravy? Gravy with the stars. Now I’m interested. Okay, okay. Hi, my name is Sydney. I love you guys and I’ve been watching y’all for a very long time. Mississippi. I have sort of an odd question. You guys clearly love your wives so much, but I noticed that y’all call other people attractive with no hesitation. I, for one, would lose my marbles if my boyfriend found someone else attractive. I’m curious to hear y’alls input on this because I don’t exactly want to feel this way forever. Okay, you’re open to change. Are you also open to waking up before you leave a voicemail? I definitely got the vibe that you’re laying down. Here’s the thing. Yeah, just wake up completely then call us back. Your marbles are already all over the ground because newsflash, your boyfriend is attracted to other people. Everyone is attracted to other people. Yeah, it’s evolutionary, my friend. Except for people who are not attracted to anyone because that’s their thing, okay? But I’m saying if you have the capacity to be attracted to people, you will be attracted to more than one person. It’s just part of the normal human experience. So the question is, what do you do with that attraction to multiple people? Not do you have it. Right because you’re not… I’m trying to think of a non-monogamous mammal. What’s a animal that’s, a bonobo? Bonobo, a monkey? Or they’re not a monkey. I don’t even know how to say it. They’re like a chimp, they’re like a chimp. I know that they sex a lot. Yeah, they solve problems with sex. They solve problems with sex and it’s just, it’s like a social currency. It’s like cigarettes in prison, right? Yeah, so what are you suggesting? And they masturbate too to solve problems, don’t they? No, they masturbate each other to solve problems, I think. Well okay, well. So what are you trying to say, man? Wait, that’s what corporate America needs, you know, the answer is masturbating each other. Do not put that in our employee handbook. Yeah, yeah, yeah please. No, we’re not corporate America. Well, we are a corporation and we do abide Corporation. by all corporate laws, including that doesn’t happen here. I’m talking about the banks here. Hold on, but let’s talk about this for real because I think that coming from a… Coming from the background that we come from. Yeah. There was this and again, I’m not saying this is true of everybody from our background, but this is how it was sort of crystallized in our particular relationships, and I’ll speak from my relationship, is that especially early in our marriage, there was, if I found someone attractive, someone on the television, you know, there’s a lot of distance between you and this person on “Dancing With The Stars”, you know, not talking about necessarily somebody that was like in our lives, but just a person in a movie, let’s say. There was… I would never communicate that I was attracted to that person because it felt like a threat to my marriage. And I’m not saying that now, almost 25 years into marriage, that when I see a good looking woman on the screen, I’m like, damn, she’s hot, like in front of my wife. I don’t do that. But I think we can talk openly about people that we are attracted to knowing that being attracted to someone and then what you do with that attraction and the act, that the action that you take, those are two very different things. And so to deny that there’s an attraction, there’s a tendency to put all this pressure on any sort of like, sexual freedom at all. Or at least even like unnoticing. Then it ends up popping out in weird ways, right? See that’s, I think that’s why you’ve got these people who talk so conservatively about sex that it’s never a surprise when you find out that they’ve got some like crazy sex thing going on in the shadows. Yeah. Because people are people. It’s like, you can suppress this all you want, but it pops out in weird ways when you clamp it down like that. So it’s just like, just being able to recognize that someone is attractive. Right, it’s just the reality. So to deny it can create problems. I do think the, how long you’ve been together is a factor. That’s true. You know, if you’re dating somebody exclusively, but you just, you know, you’re still in a dating relationship, I do think that’s different than being married 25, 26 years, like we are and acknowledging that somebody is attractive, you know? Yeah and also, like, I wanna be very clear. Because there’s a level of respect that you want and I mean, no matter how long you’ve been together, you want your partner to know that you’re attracted to them and that you’re enamored by them and that you prioritize them and that you’re making active decisions to prioritize that vibe. But that doesn’t mean- Yeah, if you’re not communicating that you’re, like, if you’re not communicating to your partner that you’re attracted to them, but you’re talking about the person on TV or on Instagram, then that’s a big problem. I’m talking about if your partner feels that you find them attractive, that you have a good, you know, life of intimacy is active then. And I’m also not saying that you’re like constantly pointing it out, but let’s use an example of like, my wife liked Jason Momoa, you know, so much that I found it strategic for me to dress up like him and take a series of photos that emulated him Right. and then make a picture book and give it to her for her birthday or for Valentine’s Day or something and then make a video of it. It’s on the Rhett and Links “Wonderhole” channel. that was just, it was fun. But if he was in your life, that would’ve been weird. If he was an acquaintance, that would be weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You wouldn’t have done that. If he was a friend, yeah. And if you had only been dating for a year, like let’s say nine months, it might not would’ve been weird. It’s just the communication climate. You know, I think denying something that exists is just, it’s not gonna lead to anything good. Right, is it true or not true, right? Right. I mean, you just have to find a way to, yeah, it’s not what you notice, it’s how you respond to it. Yeah. What do you do with it? You know, it’s the difference between receiving information and responding to information. I’m receiving information that that ass is out there. You know, sometimes Chris and I are walking around, I’m like, well, somebody’s, their ass is just hanging out at the bottom of their shorts. And it’s like, well, we both notice. Right. And you know what happens, the synapses that are firing might be different ones, but I mean, we’re both noticing and to say that if an attraction synapse is firing, that’s just biology. But there is a difference. But sometimes you go down, like you can go down to the beach and you can see like an old couple, and you just see a old fart out there, just like with his wife, just like checking out every young girl that goes by. Now that’s bullshit, right? I just think that that’s bull shit. That’s a bit much, yeah. That’s disrespectful to your partner. I’m not talking about that, I’m not talking about like checking out all these women. I’m just talking about acknowledging the fact Don’t be a weirdo. that your partner finds other people attractive and not being personally offended by it. That’s what we’re taking issue with. Now what if the guy is also taking pictures, developing them and putting them in a photo album? Well, my grandpa did that. So my grandparents went to Hawaii. Mama Nel and Pop went to Hawaii and this is probably in 1987, 1988, I’m at their house in Georgia and they’re like, yeah, we went to Hawaii and we had a great time. And I’m looking at the photos and then there’s just multiple pages of Hawaiin girls topless on the beach. Topless, oh. I forgot that. And that was quite an education for me and- Just pages and pages of it? Yeah, it’s like, once he found something, he was like, well, I’m gonna take, every time one of these shows up, I’m gonna take a picture. And then you he grouped ’em together in the photo album. There was just a lot, in my mind, there was a lot of them. And then Mama Nel showing me the thing, and I’m like, I didn’t say anything, she probably just saw my eyes get big and she was like, yeah, pop likes to take the pictures of the girls. Bit of a weirdo. Bit of a weirdo. But interestingly, mama Nel wasn’t, she wasn’t offended by it. She wouldn’t care. She was like, you know? She didn’t care. He said he appreciates the human form. Oh. Like a great photographer does, you know? Okay. So I don’t know how I feel about what Pop did, but Mama Nel didn’t mind. Jenna, are you praying over there? No, I just. I looked over at Jenna and her eyes, you know? Eyes are down. Her mouth is pursed. And I couldn’t tell if you were praying. No, I’m not praying, no, no. I’m just remaining quiet. Jesus, please help Rhett. Well, it’s funny because we’re touching on a lot of interesting things, right? Because you’ve got… There’s these interesting lines, right? And I do think that people will deny that they are there. The perfect example is this is something that we don’t have to deal with is an actor who has a love scene with somebody else, right? Now I’m not gonna go into any celebrity gossip here, but let’s talk about Nicole and Keith. So let’s go into some celebrity gossip here. So Jesse and I watched “Babygirl”. Oh. Did y’all see that? Yeah, I did not see it. I did not see it, no. Well. I didn’t see it. You haven’t seen it? I know Chris has. Your wife has seen it. Yeah. We’ve been texting about it. No, we haven’t. Probably have. No, I know that she’s seen it because… Yeah, I know she’s seen it. So Jesse and I watched that and it is the most pornographic movie that’s not porn probably that I’ve seen, I think. I don’t know. And she was an older woman with a younger man? Yeah and it is, you know, it’s pretty wild. And I just, I can’t imagine no, I’m speaking for myself. I can’t imagine doing what that guy did and it not being something that I was into. Like, I can’t, I don’t know. I just can’t imagine doing that, right? Just I know myself and I can be like, oh, I’m just acting, but I just can’t. I know actors can do it, but I don’t think I could. But I also think the way that she talked about it in a couple of interviews seemed to indicate that there was a connection there. Like Jesse was reading, we watched the movie and then we were like reading about it and Jesse like found some interview and she read some stuff. Again, I’m talking outta my ass here, but then of course they announced that they’re parting ways, which first of all opens up an interesting opportunity for your wife. There’s a lot- I thought about texting her when I saw that. Oh, she told me about it immediately. She put it in the group chat, like. She put it in the group chat. Like the day it happened. I love that. So now who knows? Maybe their relationship has been falling apart for a long period of time, but… We don’t know. We don’t know, but what I’m saying is that the intensity of the sex scenes in that movie, one could speculate that it was either okay because their relationship had already fallen apart, or it was one big domino in a relationship that was falling apart. Maybe there’s couples that are mature enough to be able to handle that. I’m just saying that it’s one thing to be like, hey, let’s do one of those love scenes where there’s some making out and then right before the sex happens, they cut to the next scene. Right. But I mean, this was so intense that again, I guess there are people who like work in porn who do this all the time and then their relationship is a completely different thing. That’s not something I have had to like parse out personally. So you’re saying there is a line that you have to find in a relationship where jealousy is more justified. And each relationship, I’m saying that if your you gotta find it. partner was like, I don’t… If my partner was like, I don’t want you to do a nude sex scene with another actor, then I’d be like, okay, that feels like a reasonable request. But if she was like, I don’t, she’s calling right now. Let’s talk to her. Oh God. She knew. Bro, you better warn her. Hey baby, you’re on the podcast. Oh God. I mean, is there a problem? Do you need to take this privately? No, it’s not that kind of problem. It’s a small problem, it’s not a private problem. Okay, well, do you want to tell me about the problem or do you want to talk about how you think that one of the reasons that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban got divorced was because of the intense sex scenes in “Babygirl”? Holy shit, no, I don’t wanna talk. Okay, can I ask you a question? Rhett, I should have texted you first. I knew I should have texted you first. Okay, here’s the thing, so I was just saying that I think it would be reasonable if, I think it would be reasonable for you to tell me- I don’t think, hang on, I don’t think you should be talking about anybody’s divorce on your podcast. Okay, well I’m never gonna do it again. Okay. And I said we typically don’t do this, I’m just saying it’s in the context of what we’re discussing today. I think it’s beneath you. Yeah. I think it’s beneath you. Yeah, but here’s the thing, just like always, we’re so late to it that it’s irrelevant now. Like we’re not the people who talk about it when it happens. She’s a real person who is having real, in a relationship. You’re right. And I respect both of them. He’s also a real person. Yeah, Keith has been on the show. He’s a real person, but I’m not worried about Keith, honestly, I’m worried about Nicole who is a real person. Okay, well, okay, there’s more to there. But let me- Got a strong grip. I can tell you that. One of the things we are discussing today is we had a caller call in who said that she was like, “You guys seem to talk openly about people that you’re attracted to. I don’t know how your partners handle that. If I knew my boyfriend was attracted to someone else, I would lose my marbles.” And so my response was, well, you need to pick your marbles back up because your partner is attracted to other people. It’s true, I think it’s a healthy part of human sexuality that people are gonna be attracted to people that they did not end up committing to, committing their life to and that’s okay and that’s something I think the closer that people can become, will be. Okay, listen. You guys are breaking up. You’re saying so many amazing things, but all of a sudden, This is making you split up. I couldn’t hear you. Say the last sentence again. I said, I think becoming friends with reality is good for a relationship and I think understanding that, And that’s a threesome then. no, that is not a threesome. With reality, reality is the third person. Right, yeah. This is a common truth. We will only have a threesome with reality. And I didn’t bring it up, Link brought it up. See, I’m making it sticky. It’s like you’re making a good point, I’m just making it sticky. Yeah, sticky. Gotcha. I just think it’s, you know, understanding that I know. I mean, granted, yes, I will say we recently, I mean, I’ve found out somebody followed you and you said that person is attractive. And I was like, hold up, I don’t know how I feel about this. I didn’t say she was attractive. I was like, look who followed me. And I think you saw the twinkle in my eye and you knew what I was thinking. But I mean, I also think that there are some under wording facts that help. I feel safe in our relationship, I know that you love me, I feel like you’re probably gonna be faithful to me. The reason because you’re a person. Yeah, probably, I mean, I don’t know what’s gonna happen. I don’t know the future. But everything up until this point has proven that to be the case. So I don’t have any reason not to trust you. And at the same time, it seems like I would be fooling myself if I was like, I am the only person he will ever be attracted to. That’s just not true. But I don’t know, I mean everybody’s different. Every relationship is different. I like you a lot. I like listening to you talk. This is kind of turning me on. I gotta go. I just had a question, I was hoping you weren’t a meeting and instead I got pulled onto the podcast. It’s a meeting of sorts. Do you wanna ask me the question right now? We can resolve it or do you want me to call you back? You can call me back. I love you. Bye, Link. I love you too. I love you too, Link. Love you too, bye. Bye. Bye. You see how, I mean, how could I not be attracted to that woman? Right. I’d be attracted to her if she wasn’t my wife. Yeah and you’ll probably stay faithful. Yeah, the only thing I have told her in the heat of passion a couple of times is, if you weren’t my wife, I would cheat on my wife with you. Because it just isn’t- Oh, well that’s where the probably coming from. It’s kind of a sexy thing to say in the heat of passion, you know? Which it is not true, I wouldn’t do that. I would never say that. I’d never say that. At least it’s not what Dak Shepherd said to to his wife. Well, look at you in your entertainment gossip. Let’s stay out of this. I know, but listen, we only got eight more episodes and so I feel like- These are people. Jessie’s right. The gossip. These are people. I’m just getting it all out there. I’m just saying. Don’t. I’m just getting it out there. This is what happens when we start talking about brunch, then we have to talk about all the hot gossip. Yeah. Yeah. It is a slippery slope. It’s a slippery slope. This is how you become relevant. It’s over, dude, it’s over. Yeah, but if we can shoot the views up real high here at the end, I might reconsider. No, you won’t. What are we gonna do? One more. Let me remind you that “Good Mythical Evening: Sloshed in Space” is available to watch on demand now to November 9th and then it won’t be available anymore. So you can also get the “Good Mythical Evening” T-shirt, which is exclusive in that time period. Very cool T-shirt. Very cool T-shirt. So commemorate all of the fun that we had and relive it on demand, goodmythicalevening.com. All right, well what’s a good one to end on? Well, because we had a discussion last week about our, we’re not for bestiality, but if there is like a rung, I thought this one would be a good voicemail. Great, let’s bring that back. Round it. God, that again. Caution to the wind. Hi, this is Bella from Houston, Texas. This is a question from a non-furry person about furries. If you guys had a fursona, a furry persona, what animal would it be and why? And also, I just wanted to say that I will be following y’all in everything you do, and I hope that you get better soon, Rhett. Y’all have a good day and I’m sorry, I’m better, I’m good. Sorry for what? I’m good, thank you. Sorry for the question, I think. Oh, well, I mean, raccoon immediately comes to mind. I just bought a JJ Kale album that has a painting of a raccoon that’s wearing, he has a hat on his lap and he’s wearing human clothes and they’re so nimble with their hands. They’re grabby like you are. Yeah, they’re grabby. Grabby. You grab so much shit. My fursona is very grabby. I’m sorry. Anything you put in front of this man, he’ll take it from you. Like, one of the things, first of all, you’ve seen it on GMM a number of times. Like he’s gotta be holding things. But one of the things I noticed about you is that like, you know how like I show stuff to people on my phone all the time. Like, look at this picture, look at this text, whatever. And everyone else besides Link just looks at my phone. Link, if you hold the phone up, he takes it from you and looks at it like this. What, I’m old and I have glasses. No, but I’m just saying. And I have a raccoon fursona. You’re the grabbiest person I know. So I’m saying this actually makes sense. We’ve got a friend who has been feat, don’t say his name. I won’t. Because I don’t wanna get him in trouble with the city. What, who, what? Tell me. We’ve got a friend who’s feeding raccoons. Oh. They come the same time every day to his deck. And there’s so many of them, they’re so cute. I didn’t see ’em. Oh, I saw ’em at the party. I didn’t see ’em at that party. Multiple ones come up. There’s like a family of like, That’s what I want to be. nine raccoons that come up every night and he feeds ’em cat food and stuff and they’re so cute and they’re so grabby and they have these little human hands and it’s just so great. Do they come right up to him? Yeah, he has falconry gloves that he uses now to let them eat directly from his hand. That’s smart. Are you serious? Yeah he’s being, you know, just in case the rabies. Yeah, so that’s me. I’m a raccoon. I mean the, what’s the Beatles song about the Rocky Raccoon? It’s a good song. You’ve got Rocket from “Guardians of Galaxy”. Rocky and Bullwinkle. And you got Rocky and Bull, you can be a moose. That’s it. Well you know, interestingly. You are a moose. Hold on, Rocky was a squirrel, dude. Yeah, I was hoping you’d remember. Come on now. You totally catfished me into becoming a squirrel. It is a rodent. You know, isn’t a raccoon a rodent of sorts? No, it’s a cat. It’s a cat with- What are they most closely related? Salt and pepper, just like me, see? Raccoon is really it for me. Nice tail. Whatcha trying to say? I like to have a tail. So I was, you know, we had my birthday party and people got me cards. By the way, I gotta talk about this now that I’m thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A friend of ours, Daniel, who was the director on “Commercial Kings” and has been a close friend ever since, in fact, we went to see a movie together last night. You got him in? No, I didn’t get into the premier. And so we went, I was like, and they were… And I said, if I can’t bring my plus one, I’m not coming. So me and him went to a movie. Wow. I stood my ground. Good for you. What movie did you see? “Black Phone 2”. Oh, Ethan Hawk? Yeah, it was pretty good. Anyway, for my birthday. This is great. I got, you know, he gave me a card, him and his wife, and I open it up, you know, envelope. So I see the front of the card. So I open it up and I start reading it and it’s got like a setup and sort of a punchline on the front with a couple of animals and… Might have been raccoons. I can’t remember what it was, but he’s writing and he’s like, you’re you a great friend and you know, I picked out this card thinking that you might find this funny. But now that I see what’s happening on the inside of it, I’m realizing that this really doesn’t, the plot kind of falls apart and I don’t really understand why this guy’s got the balloons in his hand or whatever. And so I felt like you deserved a better card. And so then there’s an arrow that points and he is like, turn this card over. And then it turned it over and it was a whole new birthday card. That he had hot glued. Glued two cards together so that you start with one card and then he realizes the inadequacy of this card and then you turn it over and there’s another card. It’s the front of the card that then you open. Then you open. Yeah. And I was like, I don’t know if this has ever been done before. And then- It’s not gravy, but it is a good idea. Yeah and then everybody who showed up at the party who hadn’t seen it yet, I would take it and I would show ’em. And the whole group got a kick out of it every single time. It was a guarantee kick. It was the best part of my party was the double card. Well what about? Oh. There was a lot of good things at your party. I’m saying that was the best part. But the other thing is that- What about the part we started talking about, everyone talked about the existence of God? That was good too. We’ll get to that in a second, that’d be a good closer because it’s actually kind of crazy what happened. I know. That’s a little teaser. I’m assuming your wife picked out the card from you and her. And them there was Yeah. another friend who had gave me another card and both of the cards had animals on the front. And they both said that the animals on the front of the card reminded them of me. They were different animals. Different animals. One was- So the one from some of our friends was a lion, right? There was a lion. Illustrated lion. Yeah and then the one from Christie was a goat. It was a cool looking illustration. It was a mountain goat. Yeah. And I think I’m a bit mountain goat and I’m a bit lion. I wouldn’t say you’re surefooted. For a big man, I’m pretty sure footed. I’ve never seen you fall. I’m pretty balanced for a big man. Point taken. So I think a mountain goat would be probably a little bit better than a lion. Lion’s a little self-aggrandizing, you know? With like the Maine and stuff like that. But like billy goat with a hair, you know, I’m headbutting things. So we were playing, I always get it confused, is it called Frequency? Wavelengths. Wavelengths, we played it in “Good Mythical More” and you turn a dial in order to… You try to predict. You try to predict on a spectrum, you try to describe something by giving a clue on a spectrum between two extremes that are on a card. And it is an incredible game. It’s really fun. And it’s great in a group. And you have to turn, so then you give the clue and then people turn the dial to where they think on the spectrum this particular clue is between the two extremes. And then you can reveal where you were hoping they would land and see if it lines up for different point values. And our friend Jacob was the last person to go. I always do game night from my birthday parties because games are my favorite thing to do and I love what they bring out in people. And so Jacob was the last person to go and of course you pick this card and you can pick either side of like a spectrum and it might be like easy to do, hard to do. And so you’re trying to figure out like, okay. Ride a unicycle blindfolded. Taking candy from a baby. That would be really close to hard to do. Taking candy from a baby would be really close to easy, right? Yeah. So he got and picked on that side the probability of the existence of God. So like, God does exist or God does not exist. And this is great for our group, right? What was his clue? So he said, well he referenced another person in our friend group. Right. And said the perspective of this person. Basically like how this person from this perspective would do this. Yeah, what they would say. And that was a really interesting clue. So we were all trying to figure out what that person believed on the spectrum of like God’s existence. And what we kind of assumed, you know, was that we knew that this person was not a theist. Meaning they don’t believe in a personal God. Like they have doubts about a personal God, but they have very high confidence that a God that might be described as the ground of all being exists, right? So they’re not an atheist. I guess they’re atheist when it comes to theism, but it’s a little bit complicated, but we kind of knew the way that this person thinks about things. And I still think we got it wrong. I think we may have guessed on the wrong side of 50/50. Yeah, I think we got it completely wrong. But then you had a great question. It was instead of playing the game more ’cause it was midnight at that point. Yeah, we were wrapping up. Old people ready to go to bed. You said, “Can everybody go around and mark on the spectrum where you see the probability of the existence of God?” This was almost like a Bible study type question. Yeah. But everyone in there has some point of reference to like having been in a Bible study for most of their lives. Not everyone. Not everyone, not everybody. That’s true, that’s true. We have some friends who don’t have a religious background, But everybody took the thing that went around and like showed their own indication on the spectrum. They turned the dial and you know, you learn a lot really quickly ’cause some people you’d hand it to ’em and they’d be like, zip bam. And they would just go all the way to like, nope. And then somebody else would be like zip, bam, all the way to Yep, they believe. And then there’s people in the middle and they’re talking about why and it was actually a cool little sub diversion of the game. I put mine right in the middle and I think you did as well. I can’t remember what you did. I put mine closer to… No, you put yours closer to not exist, yeah, Yeah. Just to balance out Christie a little bit. I put mine right in the middle and. Who I’m very attracted to. So then, then, I want to get this right because it was mind blowing. So the way this game works is you close this like sheath over the front of it so you can’t see where the correct answer are. The correct answer is. And there’s basically like two pieces of pie that represent like the probability and they’re exactly opposite one another, right? So there’s always one on the thing. It’s kind of hard to explain, but there’s basically a way that this thing can be organized so that it would be exactly in the middle. And when you close it, you rotate it randomly because you’re trying to like have it land randomly. And there’s 180 degrees that the answer could fall in. Right. Anywhere in there. And so were you took it and did it? Everyone was done and I guess it was me. I think it was you, I had a few glasses of wine at this point, but I remember that I was like, and you know what, let’s find out what the right answer is. Let’s find out what the right answer is and you just doing it. And then everyone was looking and I just opened it and I couldn’t see the answer and I opened it. Everybody went, ahh, it was exactly 50/50. It was exactly in the middle. We took a picture of it. Jessie took a picture of it. So it was like we asked the universe to confirm whether or not there was a God and after this incredible- We made it like a Ouija board. And this incredible conversation and then the answer was exactly 50/50. I’m not telling you is what it said. No, but the interesting thing was is that- What God said. That’s what I think that was sort of the culmination of the conversation was that this is speculation, right? And we can have things that we want to be true, but it’s very difficult to have things that we know to be true when it comes to this question. Sure. And it was just very fun to have this random chance generate ’cause even within that happening, you can choose to interpret it as random chance, that’s a coincidence that then because of our pattern seeking brains, we attach meaning to, or it literally is something that’s being dictated by some force that is outside of space and time that just interceded amongst all of us. And you can’t know which thing it is. You can say that you know, you can have confidence in one of the answers, but really your interpretation of the events is based on the presumptions that you bring to this thing. And it was just a beautiful thing to see unfold amongst our friends. I’m really glad you did that. Then we went home. Happy birthday. We just went home. We just went home. Yeah. So I take it back, that was the best part of my birthday party. I forgot about it. The second best part was the card that became another card. Yes. 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