[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m Linc and I’m Rhett joining us today at the round table of them lighting is Russian American youtuber vlogger and entrepreneur Olga Kay known to her fans as moosh mommy Olga was once a professional juggler in the Russian circus and for Ringling Brothers in the US since then she’s made a presence online with a unique ability to juggle multiple platforms oh she blogs performed sketch comedy collaborates and she’s got a gaming channel a fashion channel she snapchats periscopes I think that’s a verb she’s even selling her own socks not like off her feet she has like a line of Sun got it she’s a bein her one pair of socks no she’s got a line if there’s a platform out there that to be worked Olga Kay is working it and she’s been on YouTube for nine years constantly adapting to keep her content fresh and creative in the process she’s racked up over 100 million subscribers across her different channels we really enjoyed talking to Olga finding out about her fascinating backstory about growing up in a poor village in Crimea and joining the circus as a teenager of course we had a lot of questions about the circus including what it was like to clean up after her aunts flock of trained geese yes her aunt had a flock of trained geese I just I love it when we’re able to dig into something like the circus because I mean our brains just if there was like a brain map they’d just be lighting on fire lots of circus my talked about there’s a whole circus section of each one of our brains I mean we talked about the dynamic of her relationship with her mother having to leave Russia I found that very moving as well and then we also discussed a potentially controversial new book she’s working on that details an experiment of dating a different person each month over the course of a year that’s interesting no you’re gonna enjoy this biscuit but first we want to talk about our sponsor that helps make ear biscuits possible EF college Break the travel 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go to EF College break comm slash rhett and Link and now onto the biscuit okay we are live guys we’re rolling we’re not live actually this is not a live show thanks for being on time yeah you were early um I keep hearing this thing how I’m the only youtuber that shows up on time well the only person who ever came early that’s for sure this yeah and I would say that I would go as far as to say 90% of people don’t show up on time but but as soon as they learn how to read I read that quote from Woody Allen 80% of success is showing up so I’ve just been showing up I don’t do anything else but I show up so you learn to read by reading Woody Allen screenplays yep let’s come back to that I’m sure we’re gonna get to your your background in your story and I know that Woody Allen screenplays will be an integral part of a big but it’s interesting if you say that you are someone in your cause you proved it somebody who shows up on time it’s usually not an aspect of their personality they would have 60,000 unread emails you watch that video is that yeah is that screen shot real or did you fake that no no that’s absolutely real it’s just sometimes I look at emails and if they don’t sense the importance in my brain I just ignore it and then I forget and then there’s a lot of things that just went under the cracks because I just I just forgot to open it a lot of via but you means 60,000 there’s a lot of cracks I tried to concentrate on the important things something that needs my attention right away and if it’s not something important but you don’t go back and you don’t do the bulk delete because it so 30,000 in that 60,000 is just people saying you didn’t reply to the letter but you look but you but you peruse your inbox and you see who it came from and a subject and they do in the beginning of the email or whatever yeah and a last six months actually just moved and I’ve been enjoying my life so I haven’t really been paying attention to emails at all do you mark do you start to read it decide if is important and then if it’s not important you mark it as unread yes I mark it as flagged and then I have to go every night I have this thing where I have to go back and read all the flag emails that’s my system but then I forget I would do that either so you’re telling me that the unready are legitimately unread because the ones that you’ve read but didn’t read fully or act on you there are they they’re red but flagged correct so you have 60,000 bonafide unread email well you get the definition of unread here is important because I’m gonna I’m sympathizing with ogre here because for me I can end up in fact very recently I had about 2600 unread emails but of that 2600 unread emails I would say that 2200 of them I knew who they were from what they were about like I wasn’t just missing emails just kinda like you know I’m like I don’t need to look at that right now and you do read the first three lines yeah you get all you need an idea you know you need okay change my system here’s my phone mm-hmm let me do the thumbprint thing he has 50 unread emails that’s impossible and that’s just as of today by the end of today it will be like 5 or 0 because I cannot if I look down on my everytime I over my phone if I were you I would I have anxiety that’s why I stopped reading it but I do have a new system now which is came into effect only a week ago and it’s the system where I read the first three lines and if I’m not interested I just delete it without even opening that’s my new system and then I keep only the important ones nothing wrong with it so my number will stay 60,000 until I go back and delete all of them yeah but the new ones will be under control yeah I mean so psychologically for you you’re cool with this 60,000 glaring at you yeah that’s like 0d exactly you know what I like it cuz it’s because if I have actually recently changed the link system I currently have 83 unread emails so I’ve decided I wanted to get rid of those and I read through a bunch of them and then I just bulk deleted a bunch of them because I you know look at this subject but now I’m a slave to this little red bubble you know it’s like I go to Goethe to say zero it’s never going to say zero it might as well say 60000 yeah last night I got home and you know I had worked all day and I get home and I dinner with the family we ate some sushi I ate spicy tuna for the FIR time Lily got me to eat it hold on you ate spicy tuna for the first time in sushi yes because it looks like just raw flesh I mean it make it look gross on purpose I don’t mean to digress here Lily who just turned 12 she’s like dad just try it don’t eat the seaweed pardon oh you don’t like that we just take this I’m gonna eat it I was like you know what it’s good it must just be the seaweed part so I liked it so but the point I was making was I spent quality time my family were eating some sushi my expanding my horizons thanks to Lily but then we come back home and everybody goes to their screen and we we highly regulate how much screen time our kids have but they were away all day and they were begging for it and they get a little bit you know and but then I go back to the bedroom lay down on the bed because my phone was dying plugged it in the wall there because that’s where my phone charger is and then 20 minutes later Christy comes and she’s like what are you doing I was on my phone I was like I couldn’t hide it well listen I’m I’m trying to get that red bubble down I got to get that number down to zero on my emails I’ve been we’ve been shooting all day I haven’t haven’t had a chance to get the to go through any emails I might have something important in here or I gotta get that number down so see you developing lip session yeah it’s like trying to it’s not he’ll sleep on top of a volcano that’s constantly interrupting you cannot win this game let it or up let it you know like you can’t pay let it think you can do is stop doing what we’re doing and just disappear and cut off the internet will you just or get a new email address Olga I mean just if you’re okay zero to sixty actually it’s one of the problems because I do have five different email addresses excuse I have I have literally 12 email addresses that 50 is across 12 email addresses hmm I I could yes I always have this problem but I have a better system now so now 60,000 will stay six a thousand but it’s gonna that’s why we already heard that you’ll hear it again hey the bigger problem here is its ulink it’s you yeah yeah we I mean okay so that the healthy thing is just to move on just rest on the volcano and move on but you gotta move on I’m gonna be reading my emails I was expecting you to say that that was it was fake you know I saw it and in the Seawind fig that man how much photoshop skills I have to have to think it was a funny joke except that now it’s real so it was just sad no it was still funny well one of the things I always think about is that you were exploring the concept of speaking to your audience and I think this is something that Rand I have talked about we actually talked about it with Shannon and Candice on the hey hey show and adopting a mindset of speaking to your audience I’ve been on YouTube for the last nine years so there’s a lot of things that I went through where I was so excited and then I developed a brand and then I was just really burned out and I didn’t want to do it anymore and then I still still had to keep on going and I used to be I used to be so much much more connected to my audience before it was just no pressure I was just talking to this one person it’s only one person that watches you at a time because practically speaking when you when you think about it hmm we just have an in conversation but but you’re typically watching the video alone alone in a bathroom on the toilet or you were in your room I mean it’s efficient yeah you’re finishing up your day you’re in bed and you watch that video so and that really made me think of how it’s always just one person and you should never make videos for this giant audience okay I’ll get overwhelmed because there’s a giant audience watching you now it’s always just one person there and how does that changed things for you I’m a lot more excited and what really made me bounce back to my old self is actually snapchat because snapchat is a very connected experience because you are holding the camera and you’re not sitting in front of the camera I always found that even though nine years later when I make a video and I’m sitting in front of the camera getting nervous I don’t know what to say I don’t know how to open my video it’s just this weird thing but when I do snapchat I’m very comfortable because I’m actually holding it and I’m talking to one person it’s like you’ve grown them by the neck pretty much and that makes me very comfortable well you’re in charge of that point right yeah hey look at this look at this it’s a control thing but let’s talk about snapchat because I mean we explored that a court or digital from the standpoint of directing snapper here oh but I I kind of felt like that was a weird way to have an it still having not used snapchat I just write you know I just admitted to now watching snapper Europe but I was too late it I thought it was a weird way weird introduction for us because it’s it’s an interpersonal application that you’re one step closer to using it I would imagine in the way that it’s designed but just as an entertainer and a person all my personality you’re still you’re still twisting it a little bit so what was your what was your first interaction with snapchat maybe as a user yeah so on the first time I used it was probably two years ago and I really did years yeah when was it for you what never I haven’t used it but I didn’t know it’s been around though oh no it’s been around forever and originally it started did you know that I would have said 18 months but really yeah well – well it started off do you know the origins it was a sexting app where I knew the rap anyone thought that yeah yeah so people only used to it was never public but two years it was just a private thing which I could never use because I mean I don’t want my nude pictures to disappear after 24 hours forever so I never really used that and then I think two years ago it started I’m actually not sure of one on one public where people could follow you but it took me two years to realize the importance of snapchat and I think in the last six months I started watching actually well how are you doing it how are you using it privately no I wasn’t so I tried it and I just never used it okay and then once it started opening up to the public and I started watching my other friends watching all this public profiles and I was just so annoyed by them holding the button and then they would always tap on the screen with the other finger and to me that was just so annoying and like this will never because this is never gonna become a thing for me until one morning I followed a couple of people that I already liked and I started watching it and I started doing it myself and it was just overnight where I realized that there’s a couple of people I follow Steve Zaragoza is one of my favorite so okay yeah and he was one of the first so I’m not sure how long he’s been there but I found him I followed the wasabi productions and just a bunch of YouTube friends and trying to see what they were doing with it and they were not really doing much with it because they were not coming from a traditional vlogging everyday world they were coming from a sketch world into snapchat where once in a while they’ll post something and I saw it as an opportunity to vlog because I’ve done it for so many years and the reason I stopped blogging is because I was just so tired of editing every night I had to edit all the footage that I’ve been filming and snapchat gave me an opportunity not to edit and I just have to snap myself for 10 seconds and then it creates a story for you so at the end of the day you have a whole file that is all edited together by the app right and the link is so confused he’s like wait what just being me but it lasts for 24 like 24 hours but they start to click off so like each one is like a time release of 24 hours yes individually correct you didn’t accumulate a whole bunch of and then blah blah I am throw them all up yeah it’s real time it’s real time and then what I liked about it you can draw on your face which became very interactive and fun and you can take pictures so it’s not just a video forum where if people get bored sometimes it’s a it’s this visual thing where you see a picture and then you see drawing and then you see video yeah well you know it’s it’s interesting because the way that you talk about it which i think is the way that a lot of people are successfully using it now it really has the potential to sort of push vlogging into this weird place where you know I I logging in in a controlled atmosphere where it’s I guess I would say definitely pure vlog yep like blogging as kind of a as an like a doily blog a daily blog where you’re like come and be a part of my life it really doesn’t make nearly as much sense to do that in a edited video when this kind of creates that for you and the good thing is you can at the end of goes away though here’s the thing at the end and a lot of people didn’t realize that but at the end of the day you can save the whole file from your whole day as a QuickTime file and upload it to YouTube if you wanted to and then it lives on forever so it’s an archive yes okay so you can do that but I just realized that especially being on YouTube for so long and seeing how audience has been consuming the content and the more people joining in YouTube the less people end up watching particular content because they’re so it’s oversaturated and what snapchat is training people to do is to be there and if they’re not it’s like they were missing something important at the party if they go take a nap or go to bed so they only have 24 hours to see it so people come back to the app every three hours to see if something new was posted so they never miss anything so it’s great because your content is getting consumed and I think it’s gonna be fantastic for brands because then they’ll know for sure that people gonna see the message are you making any money through snapchat or is this speculative um you don’t make money on your everyday posts yet I don’t but I have done branding content that happened on snapchat right so it didn’t involve snapchat you were just working with a brand yes and it just like sometimes will you know will tweet to go along with a sponsored promotion on good mythical morning or something like that okay okay that’s happening so that’s definitely happening and I think it’s gonna be a lot more happening of that because every time I talk to Ethan my managers own networks that are all talking about snapchat so I think all the advertisers are also thinking about snapchat so you’re moving on to periscope so I don’t even know what it is I’ve heard a lot about it and last night I was hanging out with Taryn southern and Flula and we she was like guys are you on periscope I’m like oh gosh I was kind of like you guys oh my god I’m not a yeah your stomach just drops right I was like oh I have to develop something else now and figure out what I do so I asked her is that like snapchat and she said yes and I got so angry I just got into snapchat I can’t be doing something else just like snapchat turns out it’s actually nothing like snapchat so Taryn was wrong she was a little wrong and you don’t have to hold the button but it’s the most interactive platform I’ve been I’ve been on so it’s a platform for live-streaming and you can livestream anywhere and you see little messages from people popping up right away and it’s the app created by Twitter so it’s connected to your Twitter already and when people and people can click on the screen if they like you and you see all this hearts flying around so it’s really cute for girls but then the brilliant part about that app every time you go alive and people follow you they just get a quick notification on your phone saying that she’s live just click one button and you’re watching the show and now you can interact with where does the notification show up is it a push notification notification just even if your phone’s not even awake yep and this is all of our Twitter followers Twitter yes so if you follow rent link on Twitter and we enabled periscope automatically they don’t automatically follow you but they would connect let’s say they open their app and they say and they see who’s on the list you’ll be on the list suggested list right away for them because you already okay I wasn’t there isn’t there another app that is doing the same thing via Twitter like people will tweet and then you can watch a live stream right there in their Twitter stream is this is that the same thing I’m not sure because either I have heard about this and I thought and I didn’t realize what’s called periscope or there’s another one the thing I love about this conversation is that a year from now people are listening to this right now the right now is a year from now and they’re laughing at us in the way that they’re like brow furrow talking about like talking if you’re writing somebody talked about the internet like Bryant Gumbel Katie Couric talking about the internet year later you know if you’re right about snapchat if now is a year from now they’re laughing at us they probably yeah or if we’re if you’re wrong about snapchat no more right there they’re like ah they’re like ah do remember that for 400 it’s the one with the the meerkat is the meerkat the meerkat is the no see how it is something different look guys periscope looks like that and then the one with the meerkat is just called meerkat yeah meerkat see so meerkat does this well I mean not exactly the same thing but I was like hmm I thought it was called something else so what are you doing on periscope last night so I started last night and I realized two things it’s a new platform so everyone that’s featured brings me back to a blog TV back in 2008 and everyone is featured and and when you say everyone you mean every I mean everyone who has more than five viewers that are watching and then depending on your popularity will go to the top and I realized that the titles are very important because a lot of times when you start broadcasting it’s actually facing this way so it’s not looking at you so a lot of times this the thumbnails are just the wall or your feet or or something that is not your face the toilet the toilet right so this is the titles are very important and then people just log in and the discovery on that on that app is so high when I was doing a show last night it was just the 15 minute I just want to talk to people and see what’s going on and half of those people were not my fans it was just people browsing through and they discover you and like who are you oh we like you let’s follow you and see what happens so the discovery is really high it’s funny because know just one thing on snapchat is missing for now Oh discovery mmm-hmm I’m looking at a graph that shows the percentage of Twitter users using either periscope or meerkat and how meerkat went up and then just just recently March 21st all of a sudden periscope just goes up and passes it’s like it kills it because lots of YouTube person now started to use it well another thing makes me feel you know what when you know we’ve done we have created the email red bubble equivalent of social media that is what we have just discussed sorry buddy you know we and now there’s all this pressure there’s all the social media networks that we feel pressure to join and you know what the funny thing is is we’re over here just worrying about email you you don’t give a crap about your email and you know it’s a lifestyle first of all we got to take a trip to Russia yeah we sure like we got to go get a get down memory lane but before we do no you can’t take us there but you know as I said at the top you know you we go way back my memory of you guys I met you back in 2009 and we met on the largest the largest collaboration in person YouTube collaboration at to date to up to that date certainly claim to think we brought together more youtubers for one video in person than anyone up to that point I’m just gonna go ahead I’m gonna go ahead and like claim to that I think you’re right though yeah you were there and I like nine hours you’re right yeah I did anything for you guys I don’t even know who you were yeah nobody’s like yeah you talk about I mean you get the wrinkly stuff on your fingers after like seven minutes in a tub like we had you in that swimming pool fully clothed mind you because that was the point for all day seven seven hours yeah well no flesh started to rot off of your like toes it’s still it’s I still have problems but it’s a constant reminder of our friendship but there’s a it’s a lifestyle to continue to adopt and and learn and change constantly you know and there’s a commitment to I don’t know it’s its reinvent yourself or reinvigorate your your creativity you know we I have to think and you kind of alluded to this going through cycles mm-hmm No so I want to actually talk about this is this is something that made me think a lot and also be appreciative of the fact that I did stick around for so long because there’s so many times I wanted to quit it was just too much work or I couldn’t understand how to break through or I’m just spending too much money I’m not making the money back or just like so many setbacks but I decided to push through until I’m finally like this is my job now so the interesting part is before I started youtube I was auditioning and it was just a regular actress in LA and it was very difficult to break through for obvious reasons in Hollywood but then when my YouTube channel started to grow I came to my agency and I said I have 50,000 followers maybe we should leverage that and get me an audition in the movie and he looked at me and he said uh if you want to be respected in this business I don’t think you should bring it up like the whole internet thing just hide it so just hide it like don’t don’t let’s not so that was actually today I left the agency and I never really regretted it and I concentrated on building my following for the next five years so recently I went to an audition and I have an audition in a long time so I went in and they were only looking for digital stars to star in their movie and they brought in some actors and it was very interesting to observe her the actors were coming in and they were just stating their name and auditioning and digital stars had to show how many followers they have before they got to audition and how much value they can bring to the project and you have to be live streaming on parasitize but it was just interesting how everything is turning around where it’s I feel like it’s not fair for both of them talent it’s traditional actors and digital stars because you know what now really good actors that don’t have a lot of following might not be getting the job just because the digital star has some talent and lots of followers so it kind of comes a full circle mmm-hmm and you know for youth finding making a way for yourself and along with all of us you started around that time just figuring out how to make a living mm-hmm there was the one thing that popped up it was the Wall Street Journal article where they were like tell us about that it was New York Times oh the New York Times article you know she’s not she’s not making any money yeah or you were saying I’m not making any money well is it actually I can’t support myself that’s no no I can support myself I feel like I make good enough money it’s just I feel that if I was on a TV show and bringing the same type of views it would be a lot more money so in and of course they twist so was it misconstrued I think it was twisted a little bit in a way I was just trying to show that YouTube community works really really hard for their money and we’re the pioneers of the new platform that they ad dollars are not there yet but they will be but they had their own agenda for the article so it turned out to be like look at this poor girl working so hard and not making the money because I support that’s all I do I don’t do anything else and I’m happy I’m not a millionaire from the article from fans or no nothing from fans a lot of people texted me with a lot of respect messages YouTube was a little disappointed how the article turned out but lots of agencies started calling saying we’re gonna make you more money come join us that happen yeah that’s like a whole different podcast about that yeah the the offers of how we can make you more money on YouTube than your Arnie are and I feel I mean if you compare YouTube to Hulu I mean YouTube is definitely not up there with the hoola with the whole um ad money right I mean yeah I think I mean the we’ve kind of learned how to is for interesting having you know been the subject of different articles you started learning how to find the truth in media in a way that before you actually were the subject of them you just kind of assumed that like oh this must be the case and and what you learn is that oh well I guess what they’re trying to say is that it’s really difficult to do this this is not a cush job you got to work for every penny the bucks literally stops with you you have to you know you’re the one who’s in control this whole enterprise and that’s not an easy thing and you’re not gonna necessarily get rich doing it yeah and that was my whole point like I I work 24/7 I feel like and and it’s not because I make millions on YouTube I love what I’m doing and I know there’s a lot of great opportunities that will come from it so so that was my whole point but you know everyone has their engines yeah but you had a nice photo shoot as part of it that was great I looked pretty listen let’s talk about Russia okay so if you tell us where you were born in Russia we’re probably like what is it not if it’s not Moscow yeah usually actually you’ll be surprised so that was the case for the last 15 years but now I feel like everyone knows that place and I was actually born in Crimea oh really so yeah so everyone because of the conflict that happened there everyone now knows that area so I was born there by the Black Sea in a tiny tiny village and that’s how black is it was like pretty black but it’s not black at all come on don’t get my hopes up is the sea bloggers have to go see it he is filled with lots of seaweed that is really black so it is it does look black yeah okay don’t let me derail you go ahead paint a picture of the picture birth and childhood yeah there so oh I’m glad you brought the the birth I was born premature so the fact that I can even speak two languages is shocking to me sometimes but um and the reason I was born premature is because my mom had really bad heart and the doctors without her knowledge started giving her medication that will cause the miscarriage because they believe that if she gives birth to me at nine months she might not make it so I was the miscarriage and I was two months premature and nobody really thought I’m gonna make it but I made it and and so did they your mom found out at some point that I should I I don’t want to be taking this medication and she stopped or no she didn’t stop she just she was just surprised when I came earlier but it was because of the medication mm-hmm that doesn’t sound right it doesn’t but in Russia anything can happen yeah trust me I’ve seen those driving in Russia YouTube my butt so you were your life was threatened yes from the get-go mhm and then when I was two years old um somebody left and undestood vinegar on the floor and I drank it and I burned a lot of my insights so up until I was lots of things happen in Russia how does this happen what was that being used for to clean something I I think maybe people were cooking and not good I have no idea but I was two years old and I was just crawling around and I found the bottle and it was open and I drank it and and then I was in a hospital for a little bit and I was my food consisted of oils that were put in my mouth for like a couple of months that’s all i ate so up until I was seven I was just a very skinny scared little girl and I was very shy and and what and what kind of family are we talking about so I have a mom and dad and a brother an older brother and my mom was always very creative and my dad was always a really hard worker and my mom wasn’t what did he do what did you dad do uh my dad well he originally he was a marine but then when the family started popping out he just became a marine like I thought that so like a Russian Marine is called a marine – that’s the translation no this is how you guys will understand it okay he’s not speaking of Russia what’s the Russian word for marine it’s been a while guys it’s been a while since I spoke my dad I think it’s my Rach very close okay so then he started working in the field which I feel like my dad always felt like it was not satisfying to his ambitions and my mom she was operating a community center and she was teaching all the kids in the village different arts acting circus and she always wanted to be in a circus that’s how my whole circus thing comes into play she always wanted to be in a circus but because of her heart she couldn’t but she had a twin sister who was a professional circus performer and when I was little when I was five I said I have to become a circus performer your aunt what did she do in the circus she was a training geese geese yes what can you do with a goose lots of things actually they did a lot of tricks and the dogs would do what how many geese are we talking about it was at least 40 the whole flock it was so many it was so many geese 40 and he’s doing what dogs do and yes they were ringing the bell they were sliding on their butts on them on slides they were doing the figure Eight’s between barriers there they did lots of cool tricks and so my job when I was 14 they put I actually researched how much they poop and I think it’s twenty four times per hour or twelve times per hour something like that and so when I was in the village we just became so poor like my life in the village was very bad it was 400 people in the village electricity was turned off every day at 5 p.m. till 5 a.m. so I was doing my homework over we didn’t have candles so we had to make our own candles which would be the olive oil and cloth that we would burn and I would do homework that way with my dad it was it was a pretty was this region pretty poor in general yes even now I don’t even know what’s happening there now but in the water would be turned off and a lot of people survived on their gardening skills and so we had our own cows and sheep and pigs and lots of vegetables that we grew in our backyard so do you consider yourself Ukrainian or his I am Russian technically because my parents are Russian that’s another thing in Russia it’s a little different just because I was born in Ukraine and back then it was it was not even Ukraine it was just SSR yeah USSR and so I rushon in my passport I’m Russian right yeah okay so the in then Ukraine can I speak Russian – I don’t speak Ukrainian okay you came Ukraine became independent when like at some point during your while you were still there uhm 90 was it 91 yes I just left okay okay so you didn’t necessarily experience that whole thing but I’m sure I did but I didn’t pay attention I was a kid whatever yes so your mom was a like a fine arts teacher for four kids like you’re like yes like myself and I spent a lot of time so he shipped with me also in music school so my days consisted from going to school in the morning then coming home maybe doing the homework but then go to music school and then go to her community center and see what other people are doing and hopefully get inspired and not get into drugs and she wished she was with her sister but couldn’t do it she couldn’t do it yeah she wished she was a performer so and so she did you did she trained like one goose well no so of my so my mom always wanted to do an aerial arts and that’s what I wanted to do as well so when I was 14 on the situation in our village became really really difficult and we couldn’t be there anymore so we had to what do you mean it was just no money nobody was getting paid there was barely any produce available to buy and the whole no electricity no water it just became really hard to continue growing your vegetables and everything so we had to leave and figure out another way so we joined the circus when I was 14 and by joining the circus our job was to clean up after the geese hello Wow yes so that was my job was we like your name yeah my mom and my dad and myself and because your aunt was already working with the circuses she got you in she got us you got us you got you the job correct on the ground floor weren’t you working for her cleaning up the goose poop yes and the goose poop and then when I was 14 I realized that I was too old to become a circus performer because by 14 you already have your own act and I think that’s when it started for me that I have to work really really hard and it was around the same time when my mom told me that you don’t have to go to college as long as you work really really hard if you want to be an entertainer and that just stuck with me my whole life and I was too old to become a circus performer so I remember going to school and we would change schools once a month and I would go to school and then I would cuz you were traveling around traveling around so much so you would be in one place for a month hmm and then you would move so the circus would come to town for four weeks yep and was this Russia is very different from America and that’s one of the reasons why I quit circuses here in America originally because in Russia it’s a well respected profession and we don’t have tents we have actual buildings built like the circus and in fact when circus is not in town really big pop stars use it as there are stages to do their concerts so in circus performers if you’re really good you were one of the celebrities in Russia you are always on TV you’re always part of all the pop concerts so you’re just one of the celebrity and there’s multiple circus troops so we have we have it’s kind of like let I’ll paint it in this way it’s kind of like maker we have maker in Moscow and they represent all the circus performers okay and then they send whichever people they want to different cities in Russia so and then you go to that city and you work with a group of people and the next city you go to you have no idea who is gonna be there just depending on what kind of program circus is putting together so I often would meet people and then we would separate and I’ll meet them again like three towns later but we never knew who’s working with who so it’s like it was like fun always some people I’ve never saw again so you’re actually performing with getting paired with people not in your act but in the whole program mixing mixing and matching different acts together yes it’s never the same but but when you first got there your aunt was like clean up the goose poop that’s all I hadn’t you know how long did that last and what was the nature of that so I think so 7 o’clock in the morning we had to wake up and clean up and that take probably two hours to clean up and then you have to wash the geese and you don’t wash them by hand you just let them swim in them in the tub and then they would come back into the cage and poop again and you do it again at night so and then I would go to school and then we would have rehearsals in between and then when I had free time that’s when I started developing my own Act which was juggling and juggling is something that I never thought I’ll be juggler I had no passion for juggling but that was the only thing I was not too old for and I just rehearsed eight hours a day and I became really good did you have like a master since a teaching you my uncle was a juggler so he was a big help in the beginning and I would just watch so many performers I was just so obsessed with performance and how beautifully they looked onstage in the in the ring and how effortless it all looked and what kind of stuff did you juggle just balls and clubs and rings just the typical stuff and you can do how many of those are done um five or six well so yeah so I became really good for six more than me I could you go one yeah I can teach you this that would be a riveting podcast but what I realize when I came so I came to this country so for two years I did that I traveled all over Russia and then my aunt got a contract here in America with Ringling Brothers and I was in the middle of working on my act with my cousin so originally were just gonna come here for two years and just perform with Ringling Brothers and but that I saw it was 16 at that time and then my mom and my dad that was already established that they can go so I can come so I can still help cleaning up and then she’s an assistant pretty much plus she has a juggling act yeah we travel with this flock of geese yes do you send them out over the ocean they fly their way to America or do you put them in no behind a plane flying fly yeah be cheaper that way there were some Traynham yeah go to Athens Georgia now that was so cool great so yeah so I traveled with the circus in America and I didn’t speak English when I got here really what year was this 1999 and you were how old I was 16 16 yeah I didn’t speak English and I remember our program was put together of Russians Chinese Moroccans French Italian so everyone spoke different languages and then but everyone spoke English and I remember talking to all of my Russian friends and telling them not to ever speak Russian to me and so I can figure out how to speak English once you arrive yes or in preparation once I arrived so what do you remember I mean when you first got here what what did you feel what uh the first thing I remember because somebody told us that we were only gonna be getting paid $20 a day and that was the first thing I remembered where I was like ooh $20 a day that’s way more than I ever made in Russia but I wonder what it’s how long that’s gonna last and I remember was last thing a lot like for $20 if you buy you know a giant bag of frozen french fries a long time so and I came to Florida and it was Sarasota very small town so I remember walking around and was very quiet and peaceful and now I’m realizing it’s because everyone that retires goes to Sarasota so that’s why I was so quiet and peaceful and I think my third city was Los Angeles and we were our circus was build in the middle of Century City and in the middle of all this right next to the mall so it was 16 I was going to the mall every day I was making I think at that time I was making two hundred and fifty dollars a week and my only expenses were my cell phone and so that was a lot of money for me especially coming from Russia I’m making two hundred and fifty dollars every two months so it was a big deal so my whole life was going to the mall discovering things on my own learning English I remember was reading words every day trying to memorize it and the memory of learning English was I could not figure out the difference between everywhere everything every time to me that was just one word I could not figure that out oh you started buying Woody Allen’s yes how can I learn from and the other members oh this is actually a great story so I finished my high school in advance because I knew I’m not gonna be back for two years and I didn’t speak English so I can go to school in America but in America you guys have this law where you have to be in school until you’re 18 and so within the circus we had a teacher that would teach all the kids all these subjects and so they come to me and they say so I’m 16 they come to me and they say you have to go to school here I’m like but I finished my high school and their excuse was well it wasn’t translated so there’s no prove that you actually finished it so you have to go to school so I go to school but because I don’t speak English they evaluate me and they put me in the second grade great at 16 I was in 2+2 and sitting with kids that are 8 years old although they put you in a class with second graders yes like an Adam Sandler movie pretty much and I did that for I think eight months and they said no it’s gonna be good for you you learn how would you speak English like I can learn how to speak English in my own trailer I lived in the trailer too on the circus probably like a start regular yeah yeah what you wait a second so second grade with other kids that were more on a part of the circus art oh I was pissed they like sent you to like a public school with a second we had our own school within the circus kind of like I know she said where you’ll have your teacher and everything yeah that was in the second grade so that’s a really fun make some good friends yeah we’re still really close yeah so that was but also in the middle of all of that I had to go to second grade and then I had to rehearse and then I had to clean up after the animals and then I had to do the shows because I was also in the show like pretty shows and different so it gave me a lot of really cool insight on how to survive I guess hmm can I make one little sidetrack here I would be remiss if I didn’t ask worst circus accident that you personally witnessed I actually been personally in one was that one yeah women also tell us the worst and I hope it didn’t involve you okay yeah so there’s there’s two I have two stories one of them was when I was 15 and I was rehearsing my act and my act was not just juggling it was me juggling on unsupported ladder which is a six feet tall ladder that you balance with your body and you climb up every step of the way and then you’re on top and you balance right it’s not an a-frame no it’s just a lot of prop against the wall and you don’t prop it so you’re just balance it you’ll walk on it okay and so your feet are covering the top step not covering but one is it front and one is behind so that’s how you keep the letter in place and then I would juggle with my cousin back and forth while I’m topping the on top of the ladder well so that was my act and it was a very unique act and that many people did that for a good reason but we did it and one day we’re rehearsing something where I was balancing the ladder while balancing something on my head which means I had to look up and look at that object as I was balancing a lot of going on there’s like too much and then I’ve lost balance and so I dropped whatever I was balancing on my head and then I was just trying to flip one of my legs over the step so I can slowly come down the ladder and as I did that my shoe got cut and one of the steps which made me very I was stuck to the ladder I couldn’t do anything so my only way out was to fall back and see what happens but as I was falling back the ladder because of the weight it just slid under me and from 6 feet tall I just like blended on my bunion on my wooden table like this on my head oh yeah on my head it was just like BAM and then an elephant came in and sat on you pretty much like no wonder I’m so messed up but I remember opening up my eyes and I felt so much pressure in my head and I wasn’t sure what was going on and everyone was around me and they took me to a room and for the next and I’m not even kidding for the next maybe ten hours I was asking the same question over and over the only thing that was important to me is what happened who saw me and how did I get into this room severe concussion yes severe and I think I had amnesia I was diagnosed with amnesia for 40 minutes of that time so I had no idea what happened so then my mom my mom was in there and then we went back to the hotel and she came in and she was so upset that something happened and she’s like what happened what days today I’m like I don’t know she said what do you mean you don’t know she was so angry she didn’t want to believe that something really bad happened and so then we went to the hospital and there was no major cracks but I remember I was on medication for probably two years because I had severe headaches Wow yeah so when I came to America and we were traveling through before LA we went to San Mateo and it was a Windy City or right right next to Sacramento and I remember all the winds really affected my my head like if it was windy my head would be exploding but that doesn’t happen anymore no I was good after maybe a year in America then I was good and did you stop trying to do that double balance I really didn’t yeah after that I was never comfortable and actually a lot of people don’t know this because they always ask me if I want to do live shows on stage and like no I have horrible stage fright and like but used to be in the circus and the whole career as a teenager in the circus I had a horrible stage fright so every show was a big deal to me and I would go and I would shake and I would freak out and I would do well how can you shake and joke exactly and your hands are get sweaty because you’re nervous so there’s like so many things that goes against you you never turn that corner of nerves and but then I once I’m off the stage I had this adrenaline and I wanted to do again now ago wasn’t that bad I can do it again but then every time the next show rolled around like Akash can too so once I discovered YouTube it was just the most beautiful platform where I can hide behind the editing it was just so great as like mistakes didn’t matter you can edit that fall off for the letter right now but what’s the so what’s the worst that didn’t involve you so what they worse it was in my show with Ringling Brothers it was a very professional trapeze artist and she always did her act without any support so she met yeah no net and no wires connected to her and she did this trick where she was flyy and the the trapeze was swinging back and forth and she was hanging off of it on her heels not even when you hang off on your toes the Achilles tendon kind of yeah she was swinging and something went wrong and she just went falling straight down to the ground and luckily she had a guy who was right underneath her and he grew up he pushed her out so as she fell on him he just he pushed her over so she damaged her back a lot and but she didn’t die he changed her head first correct and you saw this that isn’t in front of a crowd yes it was right in the middle of the show and I remember our act was right after that and I remember this really weary silence and did they like just drag her off and keep going or was there like no they just she was there for I think 40 minutes until the ambulance came and made sure nothing was broken was she paralyzed no Wow yeah she wasn’t she landed she just really injured her shoulder and your mom came out it’s like what day is it yes do you remember the day what’s wrong with you get up and walk so that’s actually brings me back to the Russian you know culture it’s um you know there’s no like I don’t feel good today I should probably stay in bed from then bed forever it’s very like get going and get things done so and vodka and vodka well it’s true for a lot of people I’m not I always say I’m not a real Russian because I I don’t do that did the show go on I’m sorry yeah that was a low blow I was just being stupid okay I’m used to it linked did you have to perform your act after they after I scraped her off of the ground yes the show went on but you know what’s the worst part people sat here for 40 minutes and watched him just better interactional that’s what they could that’s why they come in it’s the best circus ever for those people the worst experience in the circus for me was I was in Florida working in one of those family circuses and she’s a whole different story when it’s not a corporate and it’s a family anything goes huh pretty much and so on that show a man with a goat head I mean it gets weird right it’s really weird yeah and this is talking to family circuses I mean they’ve been in the circus industry for the last 50 years like all of their grandfathers been in the circus so it was September 11 and I remembered that happened and we’re like oh the show is gonna get canceled and it was like three shows that day and we would have to perform it was like the most bizarre day for anyone but people came to watch and we caught my bad what about sideshows I mean is that something that did you bearded lady yeah get to know these people behind the scenes is that part of it of course you get to know them you’re part of the troupe like I didn’t luckily you have any of that because I was part of the Ringling Brothers shows that they were trying to do something similar as Cirque de Soleil so it was more of a class fancier I mean we had like a velvet chairs in our circus right fancy I still dream about it sometimes hoping that we can do it again it was a great experience for me when I was 16 through 19 I was traveling with them and it was just everyone’s costumes were beautiful and we all became friends and then enemies and then friends again it’s like a giant family traveling for two years right and how did it how did you end up staying in the u.s. so in the in the US so I’ve been here for three years with the circus so they bring you in under a visa then I had another agent who and this is the thing about visa so I was not allowed to work in any other circuses other than Ringling Brothers so then I had an agent who did another visa for me that allowed me to work and lots of different other circuses but only circuses you could not work like at McDonald’s and then I applied for green card and then with green card you can do you can do anything right if you get approved right yeah so when I stayed in the sad story about that story is it took me a while to learn how to speak English and then save up some money and do all of the things that I had to do and I remember I didn’t go back home for seven years so my mom I left when I was 16 and my mom let me go because she always wanted me to follow my dreams and then she thought I’ll come back in two years but I didn’t and you can see her until you’re in your 20s yeah and it was really bizarre I remember her calling me and I was trying to figure out the whole like how do you make enough money so you can travel overseas and do all these things and I was back before YouTube I was auditioning for a lot of commercials and I was trying to get commercial work as a juggler and and eventually I did right before YouTube became my full-time job I booked five national commercials I’m like oh this is it perfect now I’ll just sit there and money will come as I developed the whole YouTube thing but before that I was an extra on lots of TV shows and movies and that paid like fifty dollars a day and it was working I remember working like seven times we seven days a week and I was trying to become a union because once you become a union you get paid twice as much and and that was around that time when my mom called me and she said it was a very emotional time when she said I don’t want to die before I see you and her crying because she has really bad hard and she was just she just felt like she’ll never see me again and so I I finally saved up the money and I went and I was so weird because we would talk on skype but we would talk on skype all the time but then um should we take a break okay no okay take a break if you need to um and then when I came home I remember talking to them and I was just this foreign thing because I was already thinking and dreaming in English and talking to my family I was just like I can’t connect like I can’t connect to my family and get used to the humor and just just have a normal conversation without trying to remember what words I’m trying to use to communicate my thoughts and but that went away after like 2 or 3 days being there and then I just made a decision to always go at least once a year so you’ve been able to go back every year mm-hmm really I’ve been going every year now yeah and then in the last I think four years I started bringing my family here so my mom been coming here she’s been here two or three times now and how’s her health she she had a heart surgery um while I was in America so I flew there for that I think that was like the third time me visiting after I was already living here she had heart surgery and it’s better they definitely saved her hard but it’s not perfect mm-hmm yeah and what did what was her experience this year for the first time it’s also very interesting because was she proud of you she’s so proud and she doesn’t speak English so she and she watches my videos every day and she’s like make a video in Russia I was like oh my gosh I barely have time to make a video in English so she watches my videos all the time the only thing she can recognize is like like okay fine I was like it’s funny mom it’s funny there’s another interesting thing I love to curse in American like in English but when I start cursing in Russian I feel so awkward because I think it’s the length like I have so much respect I guess for our elders in Russia because I grew up you know I just give us a couple right now we won’t even believe them because Russians the way the Kurds there’s so much passion it’s kind of like the way I cursed when I curse in English but when I say it does it feel like a little girl who’s like we won’t know the difference it’s like time trust like partial Naju oh wow it’s pretty intense or she’s like oh yeah baller but it’s the way I say it it’s kind of like yeah yeah you’re like you lose icon yeah you should like totally be pointing in my face yeah but I’ll be like shut up like I have like it that’s in me but in Russian I just like I just that with little girls that’s what you said to me no no no yeah actually the second thing was yes okay yeah I had to translate now a little bit umm but yeah so my mom when she came here she doesn’t speak English and what about eat goose and I say that one okay yes guv naive Oh Marie I doesn’t have the same meeting I don’t know you know sometimes it just doesn’t translate the way you want Boop and I just can’t I yes yes how do you say goose I’m actually not that bad it’s just I haven’t spoken Russian in like a week so I forget goose goose yeah it’s the same word that’s why goose goose goose goose e goosey goosey is the plural for geese anyways we’ll do a Russian land lesson some other time some other time when I know Russian a little better but so when she came here she was surprised of how beautiful everything was and how everyone was so polite and sweet and like wait what is what do you think of us and I just realized that there’s something culture that happens if you are in that country the other country is a painted in a different light and so one day so when they come and experience that for themselves or for her it was a negative light yeah I think so I think it goes for every country um and when she came here he’s like everyone’s so nice and sweet wait a second yes whatever whatever the stereotype yeah whatever news feed you and then you kind of take that but they’re said but they’re they’re not in Crimea now they’re no so now she lives in Siberia whoa yeah with severe safe but cold very cold so in Siberia is the place where my mom and dad were from and then because of my mom’s health we had to move to a warmer climate so that’s why we were in Crimea and then she moved back to Siberia but I don’t know I don’t think it’s really affecting her own health that much I’m not sure what that was all about but um but she lives in Siberia so when I go to visit I either go to Siberia or I go where my brother is that which is st. Petersburg and then I’ll bring my whole family to st. Petersburg because that’s a little more fun yeah to explore I’m not so cold in not so cold yeah and it’s just beautiful um but she comes here and she loves it here and she loves my dog she loves to walk around she watches me make videos it makes no sense to her but she supports it because at one point I remember I think my aunt would say something like why wouldn’t she just get a real job and then once I started making enough money to actually support my family that’s when my mom said I think that’s her real job so what’s what’s next what do you beside besides periscope is gonna be my next best friend well a couple of things so one of the things I’ve launched a new high tech company also last year and I’ve run into a couple of problems with manufacturing because I decided to do everything on my own and but now I finally back on track so I’m releasing lots of new designs and with that I’m developing an animated show around those characters as well yeah and the other thing and that’s something I actually haven’t talked to anyone about but I’m writing a book about my dating experiment this is a this is a breaking news on your biscuits I’m pretty much you have not vlog or periscoped or snapchat it I’ll say this I’ve mentioned on Twitter that I’m writing a book but I’ve never said what it’s all about it’s all about people just assume that it’s a book about all the K becoming all UK on YouTube but it’s actually about my dating experiment and originally it started up an experiment for myself because I’ve always been in long-term relationships and then it’s it’s how long can one person date Toby Turner [Laughter] so in before Toby so I’ve dated somebody for a long time and then before Toby I was single for two years okay and when I say single I mean nothing happened but I dated my YouTube channel I was working 24/7 and I remember waking up one morning I was like oh it’s been two years and I haven’t had a single date and that’s how Toby came into the picture and then we dated on and off for a year and then after we broke up I was single for another eight months and like oh there goes another two years and why is this happening to me so I started questioning myself of why am I not dating around because people do ask me out but I never go I never say yes and I realized that I was terrified of dating I can’t do that I’m a relationship type I’m only gonna date somebody who I immediately feel the connection with and that person not around I’m just gonna hang out and if it’s gonna be two years three years fine and then I started thinking even deeper where I thought okay well what if I started having children what is this want with the men that I of my dreams what is one thing that I regret and it was not to date around so but then I started thinking how much I hate dating so I had to come up with an experiment where it gives me an out okay um so in the experiment contains of me dating for a year nothing serious is just getting out of my system so I never say I regret not to date around and I was gonna date nine guys and one girl before I settle down okay are you in the middle of this right now yes I’m almost done and and I would only date each person for one month only and I tell them up front that this is what I’m doing this is an experiment that’s an experiment and if they’re down then we’ll not play games not do this whole thing i text you and you text me five days later we just date and see where it goes and then once the month comes to an end we both go separate ways and there’s no hard feelings we both know it’s coming let’s just have fun and you’re you’re like on the dates taking notes in your phone for your book usually I do it after I try to be respected do we know any of these people than this this round oh the answer is no and nobody will know anybody’s names oh so yes you’re gonna keep all that in private so yeah everyone is private and have you dated a girl yet no it’s coming up and hmm okay I’m now my brain is flooded with questions okay um Wow okay you know I don’t know what so I’m on chapter eight you and your writing oh you’re writing it I go writing as you go and what are you what is the nature of the stuff that you’re learning what are you looking for and the men is one thing but so it’s you’re learning about yourself absolutely and also about dating in general because I’ve never really done it I’ve always been in relationships it was kind of like I like you let’s date for five years that’s been my life in the past so I’ve never really dated around and and I’ve always been so picky and if a guy showed interest is there’s something like control freaking me if the showed interest I would always be not interested I was like oh I’m not attracted to that unless I was attracted first and then he met me halfway and then winded up dating okay so this actually changed a lot where I was going out on dates with people that I was not fully attracted to but I was just want to see where I would go so you would intentionally pick someone for one month that I’m not even attracted to this guy let’s not intentionally but they would be like hey let’s go out I’m like I would usually not go out with you but yeah totally I’m part of this experiment right now you want to be number four yeah do you want to be number four okay so what happened with that date guy guy so um different things happen with different people but I would I learned what I’ve learned about myself did you find yourself being attracted to that guy that you didn’t wouldn’t have said yes to yes so the more is an interesting thing about people if you spend enough time with them you learn to love them in a way like you discover little things that are not there at first are you living together – no just just dating yeah and it just depending on the chemistry the only difference between all these different guys were depending on the chemistry we either spend for dates and a month together or 15 so you really hit it off with a couple yep and was it difficult with some of these guys who maybe you hit it off with to be like okay I got to do this experiment meaning I have to cut it off at the end of this month yeah it was difficult and were there tears with some of these people like a legitimate breakup yeah there is some interesting we’ll just have to wait for the book but there’s some interesting thing that happened that I was not expecting and it was just for me was just like fun kind of like fun and games in a way and see what we can learn from this and then games until someone falls in love yeah it became emotional at one point but and you’re dating this person on the side and I mean it was like I’ll just tell you this I’m not going to tell you a lot but it became emotional and I still had to break it off and move on and what happened with the next person was very interesting to learn because when you have to when you have yet when you have feelings for somebody and then you date somebody else it was just like it’s such a weird bizarre experience and how does it and the whole time I was just apologizing I was like I’m sorry this is so horrible I’m sorry this is happening but everyone knows so everyone knows what they’re getting into yeah how does that impact it you know knowing upfront well you know then I would impact you well I’m a married man I would imagine I want to date a married man how it like I come to you I’m flattered that yes I would imagine that it would be reduced to okay this is just gonna be a physical relationship and some guy would be like I’ve got it I’ve got a free ticket to a physical relationship for a month and then it’s over I think it’s not gonna you know so here’s the thing that with that so the first guy that I really wanted to date was a guy that I never had a relationship with him but we had a little something going on and he is known as the biggest player so he was the first guy I went to because that’s exactly what I thought like I’m already kind of comfortable with him this is gonna be my first guy so we just see where it goes and it goes physical great and he’s a player so he for him it’s gonna be like it’s a physical thing and then he’s out and he turned me down because he said he would not ever be part of something like that and so I standard and I was just like what and that’s when I learned that the bigger your ego is there the more you deal with things like that because since their ego the girl cannot be in control of something like that if that’s they’re the ones who are that’s a good point control I mean there’s also something else at work is that why put your heart out there to be you know just to get hooked and then know that there’s an out like there’s a yeah there’s an expiration date on this you and that’s another thing I’ve learned is when you date somebody for a month it’s actually a perfect time to get to know somebody and have fun and then if you date them a little longer than that then that’s when it becomes where the feelings and what’s going on so that’s why for me so the longer part of the story is and that’s how people kind of been taken that as oh they were probably faking it out there not being themselves when they date you and so I decided to not tell people that it’s an experiment and just go through a dating and see where that ends and the truth is I feel like people are playing way more games when they don’t know it’s part of the experiment how many people have you done that with just one person you’ve been through that already and that was just so and for me it was so frustrating I was like oh this is what it’s like to date on our way this nothing happens and everyone is playing games and everyone is just waiting for something to happen and nothing happens and then you’re like oh gosh well listen we’re gonna get the whole book out if you let us so let’s just make a deal that once you get this thing all down mm-hmm that we come back you know well we want to read it yeah super intrigued yeah and what do you expect for that to be done and out so I’m still so before I even wanted to you know shop for a book deal or anything I wanted to finish most of it so I’m kind of getting to the close and so I’m just starting to see if somebody would be interested in the story like that and then hopefully I’m in books I’m learning that it takes a while to get them out so hopefully the next year okay yeah or we will be anticipating oh yes you’re getting a copy all right we’ll hold you to it thanks for hanging out with us and making this biscuit it’s time to sign the table Oh waiting for this there’s your marker thanks Olga I know we gave you a hard time but I it was a lot of fun and there you have it are your biscuit with Olga Kay let Olga know how much you enjoyed that ear biscuit use hashtag ear biscuits on twitter our handle is at olga kay just like it sounds Oh LGA ka why you know speak to her it means a lot when you tweet at her with the hashtag ear biscuits she is reminded how good of a choice it was to come and spend this time with us today even though we we may be press a little too hard about that circus thing yeah I mean the coz because we were talking about it like the scishow like Lizardman I mean like I guess some circuses have sideshows that wasn’t but not really that’s not really the circus thing was the sideshow it’s not the show it’s not society I don’t even know if those exist anymore like there’s a tent circus going off I saw it on the way in today yeah and no there’s not gonna be like a sideshow stages there but if you go to Venice Beach or you can see there’s a world a smallest duck yeah there’s a permanent sideshow play that’s another thing no it’s not it’s not like the State Fair booth it’s like lizard man really at Venice Beach yeah like there’s a sword swallower and he’s just he’s there swallowing the swords and it makes me think of the one person that we’ve met that I’m sure has been in the closest thing like freak show or sideshow Cat Man remember when we and when we did commercial Kings we went and we made a tourism commercial for the town of Tonopah yeah in the middle of nowhere the desert and we found out that this guy who calls himself Cat Man if you just search cat man on the Internet all these amazing pictures of a man whose face is tattooed with like stripes like a tiger he shaved his teeth down into points he had piercing the restaurant he’s yeah he passed away that’s the way last year I think um we met him in a diner we he didn’t have like a sideshow he was just like living and hiding not in hiding but he was like isolated I guess he wanted to get away from people right right well he had I think he had made a number of appearances and he was just like you know I’m a cat I didn’t I didn’t do this so you would you know come pay to see me I did it because I just I want to be a cat and he was an interesting dude I mean but he was very nice incredibly nice incredibly sir than most cats he was a Gentile he was very nice he was as nice as in dog he was very he talked he had this like zen-like quality and the way that he talked did and it was just so he he actually altered his lip to make it look like a cat lick do you remember that the lots of surgical stuff going and there were surgical whiskers whiskers that he could screw in and make it make them I’m not interested in doing that personally but it’s pretty cool to see somebody who did I think another thing I I am I’m looking forward to seeing how this book idea of all goes is received and also interested to see that now that she’s talked about it how that’s going to affect my theory is that people will contact her because she doesn’t really talk about this publicly people will contact her and say I want to be next in line for your experiment you know that’s gonna happen yeah I found an interesting house she’s kind of she’s kind of changed the parameters as she went on how much she disclosed at the top of each month with each date or not so yeah hopefully that comes together for you book publishers reach out to Olga I think she’s she’s accepting offers yes and we’re accepting your ears every week you can count on us we will not reject them we will not reject her we are not rejecting them leave us a review on iTunes on your way out and we’ll see you next week [Music] [Music]