[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m Linc and I’m Rhett joining us today once again as part of our ear biscuits at VidCon series is OG youtuber and the Guinness world record holder for most consecutive daily vlogs posted on YouTube Charles Trippy now Charles is truly a pioneer of Internet tainment and a friend of ours he launched his Charles Trippy channel way back in May of 2006 and immediately began defining a genre of clickable web content in 2008 he started a second channel the CTFxC AKA internet killed television and uploaded daily vlogs over there and he hasn’t stopped for going on seven years that’s right Charles has been uploading a vlog basically a reality montage of highlights of his day every day for seven years and he hasn’t missed a single day hence the record and it turns out a lot happens over that amount of time for one you amassed 1.5 million subscribers and over 670 million video views you also share life-altering experiences like a surprise engagement proposal vacations getting tattoos touring with his band we the kings divorce and even brain surgery the dude has filmed his own brain surgery and he kept going right through it sharing his daily life on YouTube to this day making him arguably the most determined vlogger of all time and we talked to him about that determination his process and the motivation by this choice to bear all of his life to his fans we also spoke about those brain tumors the brain tumors that he had and the surgeries that he had to go through his result he tells the whole story of how it went down and also how flogging became a therapeutic way for him to deal with it he also describes the whole process around how he was able to vlog his entire brain surgery the second brain surgery and you’re gonna want to stick around to hear about that and later in the conversation we talked about something that we’ve been anxious to talk with Charles about for some time and that is his relationship with three different Ally’s including what it was like to experience the massive fan reaction to a separation from his wife Allie speed and his perspective on all of the internet speculation behind that in we know it wasn’t easy for Charles to talk about all this stuff with us I mean he already put it out there over the course of the years of experience but in fact he said it’s the first time that he went back and kind of encapsulated it in a conversation and talked about and started to process some of that divorce again so we really do appreciate Charles being open with us and our friendship with him we had a great conversation and we know you’ll enjoy it too but first we want to take a moment to remind you to support internet Ament by getting some of our merch y’all rhettandlink.com/store if you want to find more ways to express your mythical beast hood head over there to rhettandlink.com/store check out all the things we got available like bobbleheads hoodies posters wristbands shirts hats coffee mugs all of that can be found over there rental income slash store again it’s a great way to express your mythical beast and also support internet Ament thanks for doing that now on to the biscuit I was telling I was trying to remember the exact timeline of like us first meeting and then very good I don’t remember it just kind of happened well I know the first time we met in person was in Philly in 2008 Oh was it one of those yotube things yeah you were going to that right now we were just there for we were doing videos without cheese take this and you came with yeah that’s right yeah that was the Geno’s and Pat’s thing right yeah so that’s the first time we met in person but we certain we certainly knew you of you before then and I think we may have been like Internet yeah we ran yeah yes you had a haircut by that point no one Google that no one no one Google that I look like didn’t have hair with like it was purple at times and that was gone by the time we met oh that was gone yeah I’m almost glad that I’m less than less embarrassed I do remember though at the Gino’s a past thing it was when I was a vegetarian yeah I remember telling you guys that and I remember getting spat on by I think it was the Geno’s guy those the ones that had like the it looks like Guy Fieri oh yeah flash all the flash the flashing he was upset he was very upset with me that I was vegetarian who’s like why are you here yeah I was just like bread and cheese please remember that that’s cheese bread and melts melts was there no it was the one that brought all I yeah I remember that it was a lot of fun yeah and at bassmaster was there and a couple other people too I put old long time ago oh yeah you are your Internet old dude you’re you’re older than as we are here no your Internet older than us a little bit in a no in terms of being established I mean yeah absolutely I you’re a pioneer that’s what I’m I don’t know guys back in the day though like when I started I was watching you guys oh really yeah like all your songs and stuff I remember that we had a backlog of songs but yeah because I remembered like really admiring the fact that you guys harmonizing together it was like you see both you guys did you get the dynamic and it guys nailed it every single time I was just really impressed all the time you know this is mine blows mind blowing well but we were I remember thinking you were getting traction you know it’s like because we there was a time early on where we were like trying to figure out like who’s who’s doing this right right no one responds we’re doing it right when I look back on your channel the Charles Trippy channel which was like I guess you would call it your sketch chance sketches but as my channel yeah yeah and I mean I’m just struck with how you were like I said pioneering but you were inventing a genre of sensationally titled shareable concept like trapped in a claw machine and there is you’re in a claw machine yeah were you actually in the comics I was I used to work at a movie theater and my job was to restock the claw machine and to read ticket here’s a fun little sack did you guys know those things are rigged they’re supposed to like soon but the claw is supposed to clamp X amount of times like harder so that way not every single time you win something yeah so I was supposed to do it like every like 20 times or something like that you know so 1 in 20 chance to actually get something and I thought that was really kind of up so I would choose and I would make it like one in one five or something like that or one in one and I remembered one time there’s like a setting on the back it was like a setting that you had to kind of go into like a flathead screwdriver I was like a computer setting and stuff like that it was so messed up I thought it was so screwed up so every time I would do it I like take it down every single time and the reason why I was in there is because I had to refill it again because right boss found out because he was like wondering why the thing would go from here to here machine keep four days yeah Robin Hood kind of yeah for cheap toys that we thought that would be a funny idea you know I always wanted to do that because you see babies on the news getting stuck in a train right so like why not I got the key let’s just do it and your job to be channel on the job I was editing and filming on the job so I was get fired no they actually supported it I worked at an IMAX theatre and I worked at another movie theater like Amy theater and that’s where actually without that kind of stuff I would not have been able to do it clubs in college you have no time when you’re in college right I would go to work go upstairs in the production booth and whatever cut the movies press play do nothing I would drink with my boss upstairs we would get Bailey’s and coffee is so cool right Bailey’s the coffee we’re the awesome people right yeah woods drink get drunk move the movies dollies with the boss Yeah right switch to the real switch the real witch is a pain in the ass to this day I hate King Kong because I dropped it yeah because it’s probably as big as this table you guys can see this table put like twice the width of this table you know is this math well I don’t do any of that anymore I quit in the wrong time another video I can make you yawn oh yeah I remember that one which we I mean Rena found ourselves doing I can make you yawn video three years ago yeah yeah and then we we like search we’re like I’m sure somebody’s done this and then of course you pop up from like seven years earlier it was like six years ago okay I can make you yawn and then like best sleeping pranks and it’s got you know the thumbnail is you would like a copy on your face and pop rocks and coke myth it’s just like you know it was like premonition type stuff that you were seeing the future of what was going to work on YouTube which is funny cuz I had no idea what doing that was but it but it but you had honed it to a craft even back then like the sensational titles and people did you know you had to click yeah you gotta do like I remember as a kid my grandma breeds to read those national Enquirer’s and that’s the only reason why did you open those things so I thought maybe kind of doing the same thing for YouTube with it yeah the same thing cuz I mean if you guys back in the day would watch anything on YouTube you’d be you wouldn’t watch like day 400 or untitled vlog you know you wouldn’t do that no one would ever do that that’s why I kind of got annoyed with anyone with titling videos they’re like yeah oh it’s totally fake you know I mean it’s like or misleading comments or misleading titles right it’s like that didn’t happen it’s like would you read honestly watch a video called untitled vlog mm like no one ever watch a movie like that right is it fair to say that you’ve tried everything like I mean can I name anything like boobs of course you’ve done boobs I’ve done boobs male and female anything I mean you’ve got in in terms of the technology whenever you to become out with something like well one of the most viewed videos on that channel still is longest video ever on YouTube yeah I reminisce some how it was before they put in they probably put in the restriction that was because of you it was a not it was almost a ten-hour video yeah there was the first restriction back in the day there was no time restriction was only a file size on file size it was 100 Meg’s and I remember that file being it’s why it looks like crap if you try to find it it was ten hours or something like that but yeah when you stretch out and try to export it back in the day you try to do that on like I was doing iMovie out mm seriously it just exploded so you would have to like compress it and compress it again and compress it smaller and come I remember compressing probably 10 times to get it under 100 Meg’s to be able to do that and then gone online now now there’s like no limit you know you can put a movie up there right brain for 25 years there was a time limit to that they added later and then you had to you had to be a certain type of partner to have that removed but if you have that removed can you just do it indefinitely yeah if you look you can look for like like I’ve used sound effects like you can look like rain like rain found sound like on YouTube look at the rain Thunder yeah and it’s like 25 hours or something like that so I don’t think there’s a limit anymore yeah it’s probably not but you would be the one to formulate these questions and then scientifically by guessing and checking or compressing in this case find out the answer of course the next video you released was the shortest video ever on YouTube I thought that was kind of a goal I had to do that somebody was so pissed about it so it’s like you know what was the motivation for like what were you doing at a time that was like I’m gonna do this YouTube thing I’m gonna wait so I’m gonna be aggressively okay I’m gonna be thin YouTube to my so I started you know myspace back in the day you guys don’t know what myspace it still might be available you know I was doing that and I had a bet with my roommate at the time to get more friends I won and then skip doing that kind of stuff and then I was making videos with other friends at the movie theater and we would put on our website and bandwidth sucked then you don’t I mean oh yeah you’d have to put a QuickTime video up there you’d have to spend like $80 a month for like five use of your video yeah if you were paying for the hosting yeah so it’s one person watch a video like 100 megabyte videos like 500 megabytes right there you actually didn’t want people to watch your video you’re like don’t watch it seriously and then my friend Ricky lived out here and he showed me YouTube and at the time it was only available to just I mean it was only you really used for uploading a video embedding it somewhere there was no community or anything like that so I was doing that and then one day it was just on the site and I noticed that there was things called there was like channels and subscription boxes and things like that and I was like alright something’s gonna happen here so then I was like had so much time in the theatre you know I was just like alright so just keep making more videos networking around I did the just kind of looked around like lisanova like those are renetto back in the day just kind of saw what they were doing yeah and just kind of even Nulty was back in the day – mhm and there’s – seeing what they were kind of doing and then almost mimicking it and just to kind of see that there was actually a channel forming and once I saw that I just dropped my space altogether and some obvious right now yeah then it was pre no it was a decisions like which baby do you keep right were very fixated on MySpace oh yeah oh yeah like the livejournal pack in the day mm-hmm and you know Friendster and all those things huh but um no I then it just it just I was like oh I’m making videos I’m just gonna keep doing this and you were watching other people but I mean there were sketches out there like the lisanova Lisa Novus of the world and there were blogging like the brunette oh right or like the lifestyle vlog that like nulls would do yeah so net own notes were way ahead other time I think brunette Oh especially like nobody got what he was doing like he thought he was this crazy guy then they realized he was wait I love not uh brunette oh but I mean he was he is a crazy guy but right he would take a vlog but he would make this like crazy sensational thing like you were saying and he would like you know the head would explode or something like that uh-huh I remember that one or his Mentos or something like that and then it would just make this a really entertaining vlog but it was actually kind of like a skit so you kind of see what that’s going on and you kind of like you know build off and we were you just thinking like I mean nobody was really thinking of a career back then no because we’d know what he knew what was gonna lead to but what were you thinking like did you have another thing that you wanted to do like as a career where you let absolutely a rock star know why everyone has that kind of thing I grew up on it with my dad and stuff like that so right I wanted that at one point and I did that for a while well then I’d quit go to college so I was in college didn’t know what I wanted to do pick a book degree got that degree that uh this kind of lived up in Tampa where USF was where I kind of like graduated from at what point did you make up the last name trippy that’s your real last name okay real last name right and I’m the third so so yeah it’s actually it’s it’s not a funny stories it’s kind of a sad story because when Mike grant grandfather came over here grandparents Ellis Island they didn’t want it and I for those two I guess Italian so they made it a why to be more American so it’s a PRI pbi yeah so if you see him beat repeat a very few with a Y but so like you there’s like a what’s his name Charles Trippy a little football player back in the day have had it with an eye okay yeah so you’ll see with an eye but very few with a why think is all my family probably they’re the only ones who made that decision yeah he’s go with the why we got screwed they did it to him yeah the guide Ellis Island yeah it was just kind of like g2a why yeah though I’m sorry yeah got it yeah so when they got there they’re like okay that’s two Italian you’re why get out there welcome Annika yeah kind of things like Americanized it right yeah it really works is a YouTube channel does it does because you have people you would have all these people like with the user names like renetto lisanova you know stuff like that you know LT Kevin dolts or something like that right and you don’t realize I would sit there and think of one I’m just like oh man it works you had vision yeah I was lazy okay so at the time you’re doing this early on you’re working at a theater which you know is not typically the thing that leads to a lifelong career right and you probably didn’t think so so is it just like a game to you was it I’m just gonna see if I can master this it was kind of a game cuz there was also google video remember that before Google bought YouTube yeah that’s kind of submitted and bought YouTube so it was kind of a game we would upload a video to YouTube we would upload a video to Google Video oh no there’s another website at the time and we would see which video got more that’s crazy and we do we kind of like lay bets and like with people we made the videos we’re like oh my god I remember there was a video out there they got a hundred views and we free herself really a hundred views back at the back in 2005 I mean that was 100 views I mean you could pay up like hunter time stay on a website that’s insane yeah but um and then there was a comment and you’d be like holy God somebody saw this and was compelled to say something yeah they give it five stars what’s going on here and it I mean it you tapped into the social nature of a two so I mean you got your friend so you’re like placing bets about things but then very quickly you became known and you knew other people at least that’s my impression of it right yes I thought was like the the idea of YouTube is kind of connecting and making friends you know I mean through that I’m like I am a very awkward person I mean you guys know I’ve met you in person a million times I’m very awkward and socially that’s socially awkward like I’m pretty good at it but they’d be this as our job like I don’t like going out and going to parties and stuff like that I’d rather just sit home watch a movie versus because this is what we do for a living we go out and we make these videos so we’re very entertaining so it was just kind of like one of those things where I just kind of liked doing it and it was this is weird I mean YouTube in general is just weird when you think about the whole should write a book right everyone else says yeah but you don’t have time no let’s make a vlog well in in yeah let’s talk about that B transcribe everything that was another it’s become probably the most significant innovation that you know the daily sells is the daily vlog so okay was anyone else doing that today okay so Shay Shay started doing that just technically adults I mean yeah you know I was doing it just wasn’t before that has consistent yeah yeah different kind of thing was like two minutes of something pranking his family or something like that so it wasn’t every single day he does did it every day he did yeah cuz I remember it was Shay and I were talking about it we thought it might’ve been the kiss of death if we made a video every single day because we noticed when he went every single day his views dropped mm-hmm so he thought we thought it might have been the kiss of death I remember Shay and I talking about that for a very long time yeah it’s not sounding like a slogan that was like every time you take a crap on a video yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah he was way ahead of his time I mean it sucks at a lot of people don’t know he is yeah I wish a lot of people did because he was his pioneering he was one of the first but then you and Shay decided in parallel right now she’s the solution it was Shay first and then after the first month he thought he called me he was like you better do this and I was like well I don’t know my knife is not that interesting and he just do it and I’m like I don’t have like seven kids to do it yeah it’s like you know I’m in college I don’t time so and then I just it was like alright I’m gonna do it and I started doing it and if i watch the old ones i cringe because you have the old flip where it’s like you’re jerking around jello and stuff like that technology wasn’t there yeah and doing it like everyday that kind of wasn’t like the goal it just so happened cuz I feel like I’m the type I have a very stubborn person when it comes to doing something and like if I put my mind to something I’m not gonna stop so it’s just the principle of saying that you started you can’t stop yeah you can’t stop and I’d ever thought like I didn’t realize I never stopped until somebody pointed out like a couple years later they’re like you realize you’d never stopped in two years I’m like oh and then at that point I was like okay well let’s keep going let’s make something of this and then after three or four years you know somebody plain common tech with Guinness World Records and then I was like all right why would I make this contact last so I kept doing it and then I hear five or six they gave us that right so I didn’t rely there was no plan on doing it every single day it was this like I mean I said daily vlogs but I thought it’s gonna do with daily vlogs you know it’s whenever I got a chance right and now we’re what what’s the unbroken streak now 2276 seven years and the Guinness record do you actually get like a plaque yeah I put LexA helm there literally on my office I’ve two of them now they give you one every year oh really um well they give you one every year because they update the book but right and you took out the record yeah and they didn’t give me one last year because this kept the same record but this year they saw the significant jump for the one from 1500 to 2000 707 there’s a bigger jump we should update it so yeah they literally give you this plaque it’s like an award on as cool as the play buttons for YouTube but it’s like a plaque it says Guinness World Record you know little certificates and stuff like that right and you had to develop I mean that developed over time you know there’s an art form to doing the daily vlog it’s like a formula so give us the formula it’s you wake up you introduce yourself you like you wake up you’re kind of like you guys deal with the with this you say hello yeah introduce what’s going on you don’t really say what you’re gonna talk about you just do it and whatever happens in the day that happens in the day and then you edit it to the end of the night and then we you see a community because you guys have a huge community behind this and then you see that and then you evolve them and then when you pick something so at the end of the day you’re uploading your how many day in an ideal schedule I know sometimes it probably fluctuates yeah it has it depends on what you can’t really get ahead no you can’t well it depends on what you’re doing like if you’re kind of I said what do you mean like you can’t be in the next day that what you mean yeah like there’s no buffer because no yeah yeah you sleep and then you wake up and do it again yeah you got to do it again so exactly so you have to you get home that night at the end of the day you’re like editing and uploading something that goes out the next day like next morning yeah so how streamlined has it gotten at this point in terms of I can do it in my sleep so because I assume now that there’s like you are your self editing as you’re shooting you’re like I know this is I know beginning of this look this is the end of the clip yeah I’m not trimming anymore yeah so is it like a you open it up and you just did it back-to-back you just throw him Elizabeth J and the L unlike final yeah yeah and yeah exactly you know you shoot the edit first he used to shoot kind of thing and then like che like che was always like him and I would always talk about it cuz like him and I to our videos back in the day like 30 minutes long yeah which is ridiculous like a TV show and then we started like well I started finding myself at least he still does it but I was like I can’t watch that much like so I figured my down a little bit the more exciting stuff like highlights yeah and but it’s the same thing like you said it’s like you shoot to edit kind of thing so you know where it is and then I’ve been teaching Ally how to do it too so she’s understanding that – so when she had it’s some of the times she knows how to do it but yeah that way you’re not like basically because you know when yet it’s real time sometimes longer so if you shoot like 60 minutes it’s gonna you can’t do it in 60 minutes longer than that and then so it’s still either your ally editing at this point you’re there’s nobody like that’s gonna be like okay you guys are sick today I’m gonna come in and do this no no no yeah gotta do it got to do it through everything you know I’ve helped everyone’s helped me in the past my parents have helped my sister’s help you know ally ally speed has helped back in the day and stuff like that everyone’s held me and there’s I mean there’s certain points where it’s like oh like I gotta get to the Internet in order to upload this dude’s gonna be like crazy mo my god that’s orange and touring like the word can’t imagine we’ve gone I remember one day specifically it was a day almost lost her record was in London and it was pouring raining and we got invited you guys know the ban thrice nothing so I know I know the one before it Oaks Weiss advice tried trying to make a new Murali Nuala numerological joke a mistake well if anyone listening those thrice they had a going away tour and they invited the band because we were overseas touring okay and they invited us to go watch and I was one of my bands I loved as a kid mm-hmm and I had to miss it because I had to walk around London in the rain trying to find internet and I literally would go up to people’s doors and hotels asking like have their Wi-Fi password really yeah and I got one finally said yeah I got it as if you don’t if it was what’s the rule if you don’t if it doesn’t post before 3:00 a.m. Pacific time which is the day because YouTube switches over at midnight which is 3 a.m. Eastern I kind of when I was over there was nice because I was you know way ahead but it was that was a pain in the ass and then when you go we go anytime we tour like we go to Malaysia we go to Japan we go Australia and stuff like that you find out where who has really crappy internet like how long it takes right but it’s all it’s you’ve always found a way to there’s always been away somehow if you find a way determination you’ll find it but the nd you know you’re wearing the Hat I KTV right now that you know coining the phrase the internet killed television right is you you coined that very early on I’ve had that for I don’t know how for the daily vlogs I wait before I was like listening to the Buggles Internet I mean Radio kill the internet star radio the TV star that can’t remember anymore what’s TV and I saw I listened to that and I was like I wonder if this domain is open you know I just bought it immediately because I was like it’s available right I was bought for like 20 years or whatever it is yeah and it was just I don’t know it’s I just noticed I was not watching TV anymore I was watching all my friends on the internet watching you guys over watching Lisa I was watching Shay is watching everybody on the internet yeah again I mean it’s it’s actually finally happening yeah you know it’s dead yeah I mean or almost did almost dead yeah it’s it’s puttering out its gasps gasping for air it’s buying the internet right now that’s what it’s doing the Internet is TVs now just buying everything to be on the internet yeah it’s just becoming yeah moldy it’s becoming television but there was a point when there was a question if you would get to see your prediction happen this whole brain tumor thing all right so there’s a you know I want to go through this because there’s a couple of layers here there’s just the fact that you had a brain tumor and we went through it right yeah and then there’s a layer of and you document your life every single day and they’re not going to stop yeah because if you could let just just between us and everybody’s listening if you could ever come up with an adequate excuse to start stopping I think a brain tumor is on the list yeah I thought so too but no but it’s funny because if you actually had stopped at the very beginning and like made an informed decision before these before you embarked on the daily content like whatever if yeah it’s like well if I’m gonna do this every day what if something really bad happens to me you know I mean do you recall thinking about that or was it just Shay’s doing it he did it for four weeks now I’m gonna do it and yeah I just said I was gonna do it’s now doing it was it was just one of those things I was like I’m just gonna do it it wasn’t like what is no I’ve never your kid you know I was like 20 20 years old or something like that when I was doing all this stuff like a pug ass kid you know stupid hair I wasn’t really caring it’s just didn’t think about they could foreseeable things like that you don’t think about stuff like we were a kid you just think about what you’re doing you know what I mean it was in and so there was an announcement to your audience I have a brain tumor but right I mean there was some there was some part of your life that made it into the daily vlog that gave Inklings – hey something might be up right right she had a seizure first right I had a seizure on tour yeah okay yeah I thought about that and I was on seizure with we’re walking in Boise Idaho just before before the show we’re trying to see that blue field because that’s all I think is that Boise so we were walking we daniyar drummer and then he said I just kind of did like a spin and just hit the face first I had like a I iced coffee Starbucks iced coffee Starbucks if you want to sponsor me I’ve been drinking you forever but you gave him a brain to save my face so I landed face first on the ice coffee okay saved by Starbucks yeah so instead of the cement I literally had a little gash and a hole of my jeans which became very fashionable but um yeah so just that happened I went to the hospital just hanging around Danny we were playing like games on our phone at the same time he broke his arm like two weeks prior so the band was best and uh I mean a drummer with one paw killed it though he killed it yeah he killed it the I Def Leppard just needed it yeah you just kill we had our drummer drum tech Yoshi like that parts would just hit the cymbals it was really funny actually so you were making it work but then you’ve got to go in you’re like well okay now it’s my turn yeah I had to go check out yeah you know let’s go you know like you know I fell down they took me to the the hospital Dr or whatever and I’m just sitting there the guy comes in you know face is kind of like white and he’s like I got something to tell you and by immediate reaction on anything is humor so I don’t I knew something was wrong with my head so I’m just like he’s like I got something to tell you I’m like it’s not a brain tumor it’s not a tumor or whatever immediately go to Arnold Schwarzenegger right huh and he’s like no sir it is oh this is a too much impression back to you know it if I would have made things much better but obviously I went what first you don’t understand it and then because you don’t understand something like that that’s something I don’t think very few people like understand and that’s why I continue doing these videos is because there’s a lot of people out there to watch these videos that are going through that or have family members and so it went through all that you know had to go I mean that has to hit you like a ton of bricks like it does at that moment you’re just but you’re still young you don’t really get it you think you’re invincible you don’t have mean you’re like yeah well whatever you know it’s a tumor get it out so you didn’t think I was something to die known at one point I didn’t think I was gonna die I just thought like you know whatever take it out my head and he was like alright so because the doctor the they assigned me to in Boise which was a great Hospital camera were the name of the hospital great Hospital club that won him Boise Boise I know Shea would know it um the guy was very confident about everything and he was like yeah we could take it out right away and I was like okay do it right now and he’s like well you have to be here for say three weeks and I’m like well I want to be in Idaho for three weeks so we flew home we found a doctor over there and um got it out first one was sleep I guess I was asleep um they thought it was okay well how big are we talking about if our own golf ball okay there’s a golf benign it was well technically all tumors are they have they’re benign is like a weird word they say okay cuz um it was technically benign first time and then I guess it turned into something without treatment into more malignant okay and went through the whole surgery and then I got a I always have to give credit tally speed she killed it with the editing I couldn’t do anything and she helps so much with the editing on that because I was like doped up you know like I couldn’t even do anything with my hands so she edited that’s why we didn’t miss a day and that one was not that procedure was not filmed that that one was not feeling offended but the whole process though it’s not just the procedure it’s how much you have to make a decision how much of this are you sharing online yeah online because I would imagine there’s a temptation to say well I’ll just share I’ll share just enough right but then well let’s just wait until this will just give an update and say this is what was happening I’m filling you in yeah it’s not like youtubers in their secret project right exactly to go away for a while and then they cast them coming back with Bigfoot yeah so wait so what did you decide cuz obviously didn’t miss a day but it’s not it’s not like every second of your day no it’s it’s it was one of those things where I just sat down I was like it was more helpful to kind of talk to a camera and not have somebody really you know say anything it was just like let me just vent and then later you know we kind of the conversation look at the comments and then I started noticing people commenting saying they’d gone through it as well so like well I mean if they were going through it you know it’s cool we’re having that little connection so we can help each other and it was crazy and then got that surgery was two years later I had another seizure I was like seizure free for like two like two years or year like a year and a half and that’s what causes us is like like seizures if you guys ever have a seizure please get a checked out not to scare you but just get a check out and yes so they noticed something happened when I got back off work tour and so I went back in and they said it was back and I was like oh no there we go again and so they had to go to a different doctor and I wasn’t on chemo or anything that car probably helped you know keep things regulated yeah but because it was in the same place it just grew back in the same place well yeah technically the type of it was it’s called an oligodendroglioma it’s a lot and don’t Wikipedia it scares if you do because there’s that at the time did not mean told me not to and I listened to my doctor really yeah I did not do it my parents did and I can see the face like look on their face because there’s like ones were like you can live their whole life or you can be dead in two years so it was like one of those I was like and I was super healthy that was young so he’s going through it all and the doctor I mean he he was calling you yeah you could a kid we could take care of this you could be fine or you could die in the next right well he didn’t obviously didn’t say they didn’t know what it is until they take it out your head oh yeah so we didn’t know what it was until after the surgery unfortunately so then they found out and that’s the worst part is like you’re waiting for resolved by ops and you’re just like you think that would go a little bit faster you know I mean they pull something on your head it’s like what do I have and so you wait like two or three weeks get the phone call he’s like alright well how are those two three weeks then I mean sucks because I mean you have to at some level you’re coming to grips with your mortality right right yeah we’re talking the second time now oh this is the first time I’m still the first time well still yeah first time well the thing is like that’s what I think the vlogs really helped is because you kept your mind keeps your mind off of things because otherwise you just sing at the house you know watching TV you know watching a movie you’re just like in back here you know you’re thinking about everything versus working working yeah cause it becomes a job by then it was a job in every video it’s not like you mentioned it how much did you process over those weeks of waiting like I you know I thought it’s fine I was like it’s what’s okay you know whatever I’m young I can take care of it I honestly didn’t think about it much at all I I guess what I’m what I’m asking is did you ever find your you’re vlogging to be a form of therapy for you you know to find yourself processing things that otherwise you wouldn’t have talked to Ali about or your parents about or your friends about you find yourself verbalizing things that yeah I think so yeah cuz or did you just edit the action points and your dogs into your videos and it was just an escape it was kind of both more of an escape probably if you think about it cuz you you don’t want to dwell on things so it was kind of cool like every single day I was able to just focus on everyday having fun and then just edit the video enjoy you know let other people’s and you know watching the videos enjoy the video and if they’re going through the same thing they can see that it’s not a death sentence I guess you could say and then so I just kept doing that and then two years later had another seizure like I was saying and then got another doctor’s opinion said it was back this doctor said it was a little more serious it was bigger and so they showed me I don’t have the x-rays on here and we’re on radio so we can’t really how big it was this one was smaller Leo baseball Wow so I got bigger so which was scarier because you know they come back these ones come back without treatment and your skull doesn’t get bigger just all design just get smushed you get brain get smushed I literally have like a like a hole in your head and it’s like fluid it’s very interesting and the x-rays are really interesting though they kind of see especially before and after before it’s just look like your brain it’s like a white brain boy brain like it’s like just white stuff you know praying like filler and then when they take it out it’s this black gap and then you what it’s like fluid and things like that and your brain doesn’t it rain can’t grow and there your brains already grown so you can’t like isn’t it like when you’re like a certain age your brains fully grown so as the as the cancer grew into that baseball it just pushed it over yeah it was more it was a tumor though I think cancer and tumors I don’t have the same thing but like this at the tumor grew yeah it pushes your brain over which causes things like seizures and other things like that some people smell things like they’d be like who’s cooking steak or did you experience any nothing else other weird stuff nothing else sometimes like they can’t see color it’s weird like it’s a kind of like mine is on the right side so it’s frontal right frontal lobe so it’s supposed to be like your motor skills on your left side which sucks as a musician so you lose everything right or when they take it out you could be the best musician ever so that’s why I was hoping for but you didn’t experience any real physical changes just a seizure just a seizure and that’s what everything else was fine and then they did this surgery the guy said he needed to get this one was the surgeon two surgeons the rock star surgeons he was like he would tell me stories or how like him and the other guy there were best friends we’re in like punk bands in med school in Boston and they would go below the hospital and like there’s an abandoned part in the hospital turned into a punk venue this is my brain surgeon he’s telling me all that he was the rock star I just thought you made it brain sir he is literally a rock star it was just awesome Hallion sometime guy he’s one I actually brought all the news from Kirk oh when Kurt Cobain had his OD in a tout Italia Italy and no one to give them the information to America he was on the phone with Courtney Love and Kurt getting all that information back over here it was him because he’s Italian so he’s the rock star and so he’s telling me all this stuff he’s like so we’re gonna do you’re gonna be awake at first off I’m like you’re awake yeah and they was telling me like you don’t feel anything you don’t put your brains like heads open you poke your brain yeah you know yeah you probably lose like you probably dumb but not hurt to get dumb you wouldn’t hurt to be Don you wouldn’t know you’re getting done I guess but um and you and so that’s the first thought is oh I’m awake second thought can i film it yeah it was there was actually I was like that was actually I don’t know why but I know my my dad Willie are you thinking right why is that the first thought and stuff like that we like ask the doctor immediately ask the doctor I was like he said sure he said that sounds cool man he actually loved it he loved the idea and he’s like sure he’s like what kind of camera is it he’s like cannibal crew obviously and I’m like I was like I have this little camera right here and he’s like yeah no problem so I bring it in I have the I guess there was two surgeons there was main surgeon and there was another surgeon and the other surgeon was like trying to figure out how to do it and so I literally had I don’t know if the clips actually made it in because Ali’s speed actually edited for me because I couldn’t do it obviously um couldn’t do anything um so that makes sense uh and the other reason why I couldn’t do is because right after the surgery the game in the nurse ad I don’t want she did this she gave me the camera like right after the surgery and the first thing you do after filming anything you’re like looking through things and you’re like oh you know what the hell what is this you see her brain and then I had what’s called a what’s just called a stress attack or something like that yeah and you were watching the footage back you know brain brain being hacked down right like 20 minutes prior so I had this effect and like the camp the guy another surgeon I mean that nurse came in and grabbed my camera actually what you doing you know they had this argument and so she did all the editing for that so I didn’t see it for a long time literally I haven’t seen that but you were telling them how to use the how to use the camera to film the thing I told him how to and then he saw me how I was doing it because I was like filming it and my arms went down and they’re like okay so we got to do this so the surgery trying to hold the camera I was trying to hold it my left hand and that’s the arm that actually was affected by the tumor okay so I was actually filming at first maybe I want to think it looks like ten minutes but it was probably 30 seconds I mean there aren’t tripods that is that what I wanted the more like you want to had the vlog thing yeah a tripod it just looks like a surgeon video but right he’s like rating for my face he’s like so what are you thinking right now I’m like talking about you know this is one of the nurses the surgeon another surgeon oh really there’s there’s a camera so they were comfortable like adding a layer of documentation that they became the document in their own process right they could like seriously malpractice suit they could have screw themselves over no it’s crazy that they allowed it yeah like did they allow to happen they started a drop the camera as brain yeah any questions and like you you’re talking about the surgeons and how great they were you were talking about fans and how great their support was you were vlogging I was talking I was telling apparently they said I had my humor totally was intact I was like like you were groggy I watched it yeah it really was in there I watched it maybe a year ago it was first I’ve ever watched it because there’s two versions there’s the censored version and cachet Carla actually came out to when the surgery happened and art singer actually came out as like most moral support Jay and Kassim came out the first time for the second one Shea’s there and he’s with Ali went they were editing and she’s like I don’t know I should put in shades like put all of it no it’s like she always does and so we made two of them because there it was pretty graphic you see blood but it’s not like gushing blood like you know but you see some brain so you see a brain it doesn’t look it looks like if you yellow put like pink jelly so hard on yourself right giant brain a giant giant brain but it’s interesting because I watched the uncensored version recently and it’s it’s interesting that they can do that kind of stuff yeah so it was cool that they did that but then I mean on an emotional level I think the thing that when I was watching through it it was which one did you watch the uncensored or the regular one well I’m actually talking about kind of this the whole story the story around it and how I mean it was so compelling because it’s so real and it’s so just a part of something that you had committed it broke you committed to something groped blindly and then when this happens you stuck with it yeah and as Rhett and I watched it I remember our conversation I was very curious about the emotional side up right you know I think that it was I was very curious how you were dealing with it and then how much of that would be conveyed to the audience right I think a connection really formed on that one because like it was cool because you’re connecting with people maybe 10% of people have something like that or relate to that so I was able to vent to somebody that knew is like going to a support group because they told me I should go to support groups because it messes with your have to be joking but your brain yeah but your mental state and I refused to do any of those just because you said earlier I’m a stubborn person and I didn’t want to do that I wanted to go on tour I wanted to go play shows and here’s a funny thing right after that surgery after both surgery after the first surgery I was back on the stage touring overseas in Europe in two weeks Wow yeah and I still had the freaking you know what’s uh that actor in a fifth element that has the hair you know like it’s over the bad guy yeah yeah this is Gary Sinise I carry Sinise is it it’s Gary Oldman Gary Oldman yeah you know in the fifth element that’s why I look like that – little collar and stuff like that overseas so I would wear a helmet and over like two weeks overseas second one when I was open brain surgeries back on the stage in three weeks because they told me they’re like you can do it do it and I was like yes I mean you had this like big it big circle of horseshoe horseshoe yeah just right there over your right eye yeah scout yeah the Indianapolis Colts actually sent me a care package that’s here thanks for getting our logo yeah that’s a side down though yeah yeah they totally did it was really funny it’s amazing yeah I was really hilarious too but yeah it was pretty gnarly kind of situation I thought it was more of like oh that was my moral support the internet and I feel like things came together really well in that how low did it get though I mean there had to have been moments where it was like if you said I never felt like I was gonna die even the second time I mean what there’s got to be those questions of Prosecco process don’t eat your mind I don’t I don’t think when you’re going through that stuff it’s just least me I don’t think death that I would think of it as a situation kind of thing like I’m not gonna die but I’m going through something pretty but I know there’s somebody else going through like there’s somebody probably going through stage for leukemia or breast cancer or something like that and they’re going through really bad chemotherapy they’re losing their hair you know they can’t speak they can’t move I know there’s unfortunately people going through those things so when I able to talk and I’m talking people back and forth and I realize this situation sucks but it’s life you got to go through it okay well let me see if I can get at it this way because what I’m still trying to find in there is that moment of fear okay the fear I’m trying to find the fear so this is my last-ditch effort to find it the drugs help I think I think it’s did you make any plans for like situations yeah what would the video be like what how do your funeral I actually did give my password to Ali and I’ve said make sure to film and keep going with this thing I did tell her to keep going if you did but if I died I didn’t say it I said if something happens please keep this going that’s all I said meaning the channel or the camera the channel but the camera – I guess what like though they’re gonna go in there cuz I remember in the video you can hear they’re like Charles Charles can hear us Charles and use here my arm fall and I’m not able to respond and then you hear clink clink clinking that we’re done and so they stopped so they stopped filming but I was mainly for her I wanted the channel to keep going because I don’t want to build something and then make this community and then just die because unfortunately if I passed away I felt like it needs to live on because yeah it was bigger than me at the time so you didn’t think about an epic drone swooping shot across your funeral that would probably that happen to DGI mine but then it would keep going after that yeah I wanted to keep going yeah but I’m never could thought about that part thanks link one I give you my password to do one and we’re all gonna die and there should be a drone at all of our funerals ah just like DJ I’d like phantoms drones all over the place yes exactly right open casket right yeah really slow rider for this somebody’s gonna do that okay now you’ve you’ve mentioned Alex peed a number of times he was with you in the in the middle of all this and of course your because your life has been out there for everyone to see everything’s we’ve all feel like we know a whole lot about your relationships right experience and so we’re going to talk about that okay so let’s talk about the Ali’s what I can say so there’s there’s three you’ve actually met all three all of them yes sort of like one of the very first times we met after the the cheese the cheese bread yeah right incident YouTube live right yes yeah we met Ali who you had you you know you are already kind of putting your life on the Internet at the time not in the same way but like the the famous hot air balloon proposals of yeah which I don’t believe can be found anymore I think as we’re taking that because it was owned by a different company okay yeah I don’t buy a company but that was sort of like the beginning of life I’m gonna put myself out there and you’re gonna know about what I’m what I’m going through yeah and of course you know kind of looking back on it we just want to hear it from your perspective right because I mean I think that there’s I mean there’s obviously the thing that people always talk about and joke about it’s just like does she have to be named out anywhere for you to be with her doesn’t John have a book about that too like a life full of out of it like was a bunch of Ali’s a boy – of Katherine Katherine said they made the book abundance of alleys you know I was like okay that’s all right no I mean like honestly it just it just happens it happened like that so what was it not a policy that’s a pulse I only bet was there when when you met your current girlfriend Allie with Allie Wes when you met her and you found out her name was Ali was there a oh man this might be a deal breaker or yourself something else no I was gonna that wasn’t a deal breaker this war of like oh this is going to be weird now it wasn’t gonna be weird for me because I names a name you know I don’t really care some people date several John’s in their life you know what I mean right just because it’s on the internet I think it makes a weird and it’s practical back and it’s back to back back yeah it’s interesting but I think that but you know so i yeah you know the bigger question I think that that everybody has is just the whole process of what happened between you and Ally speeding and leading up to you and Ally West right and can we at least tie a bow on the fact that you had a proposal to Ally number one and Ally with a y-yeah leads to Ally our ally alright okay you guys never got married no no right yeah okay her family wasn’t very supportive the YouTube thing so it’s kind of like one of those things that’s like you know you do things that you love the family is not supportive it’s like you know deal-breaker yeah so now I wish I can go there just like middle finger you know do the whole like Homer Simpson going down the sand pit you know like in the movie just brick but I mean it’s just one of those things it’s like you know you gotta have you know these family supporting what you’re doing even though it sounds crazy you know and that didn’t happen that because you know she didn’t like it she didn’t support it family didn’t support it so immediately off the table so Alex peed that was you guys got married in November 2011 and there was you know there’s you guys she was on the channel and there were the daily vlogs were already happening so she was incorporated into that the engagement like the actual moment of engagement right was part of that right and not I know no not everyone but that one was that what took I got a fear of flights hot everyone’s after that one yeah no I mean like she’s she’s a wonderful woman I never want to talk bad about her she’s a wonderful woman a very strong woman and she’s helping through a lot of things and she it just so happened that it’s just you know worked out this way but you know all that fun stuff well yeah though it life the reason why that’s on there is obviously it’s cuz life happened from 2009 due to what is 2015 yeah and so life has happened for seven years so that’s why that’s on there and you can documented itself well you know I think you know coming from the perspective of you know we see you on the internet a lot more than we see you in person so that’s an unfortunate thing is right you so it’s like we kind of we see your life being lived as your fans see your life being lived right so when I mean I remember the the announcement video the I think you called it we need to talk or write you know letting everybody know that you guys were getting separated and you know to quote something from that video over the past couple of months Ali and I haven’t have just haven’t been getting along we have been arguing a lot more than normal and it’s just been getting worse and worse and we’ve just been becoming more and more unhappy and stressed out right and of course you know as two guys who you know we’ve been married for a while right and we I course the fans kind of responded in the same way we heard that and I was like there’s got to be something beyond this because what you described is something that happens in every marriage relationship right and just as a fan watching your videos we nobody had any idea that there was anything that was wrong right and the thing is that with the I remember a long time ago we decided when the video started that I didn’t want a feathers too much negativity that I didn’t want to do negativity on that it wants to Jersey Shore if you want to watch that I mean I wanted to show positive because the ID drama drama yeah it clicked yeah okay the videos may have been a bit like a reality show I mean it’s like a homemade reality show but we have the control over it so it was like one of those things it’s like a time capsule almost a little bit better I guess to say and the idea was when I get older that whole idea of these videos when I get older and I show my kids I want to make sure they know I was cool at one point so I wanted the show like you know cool little things that I’ve done in my life and remember cool little things cuz I have a terrible memory prior to the tumor and uh maybe that’s all connected I don’t know but um I wanted to have something that can look back on and kind of reminisce and see all these cool things I do because I mean you guys probably know they all the cool you guys do you probably don’t remember half of it Yeah right oh yeah and it certainly resonates with me when you say this is the show I was in charge of it was also my life and it was I hear you saying it was you know you and Allie it was your life together for that stand of time right and you made the decision to not exploit that for the sake of entertainment value I mean you could have done that like you said that would have been entertaining what reality TV like that is just slapping someone in the head right exactly and yeah that was a very difficult video issue thinking back on it I wish she was a part of it but to be honest with you it was a very difficult thing just to shoot by myself and a very difficult whole thing was a difficult situation its it seemed like it was almost like I’m just gonna do this almost like was the spur of the moment it certainly didn’t seem like a there was a plant again I think was literally shot on my webcam yeah there was no it wasn’t like a prepared statement by any means no I rambled forever I don’t know what to say like cuz he’s you go with what you’re thinking and stuff like that but it wasn’t satisfying as a viewer ya know some people they want more you know everyone wants more especially and I respect that you know people are invested in watching these things for sometimes like some people I met today seven years you know since day one and I understand I respect that but at the same time it’s hard to you know it’s like mom and dad divorcing or something like that you know think why was it us you know I mean so it’s kind of hard to explain that and it was a very difficult situation for both her and of myself and we didn’t know what we were getting we didn’t know how to deal with ourselves so to explain that to a million and a half people you know how do you do that and I just one day what I was like in the day I was just like I had something in my head and I just turned on the webcam literally used iMovie and just started talking right and you know just said what I and had had you guys discussed I mean obviously you had made the decision that you were getting separated but had you discussed the process by which you would let everyone know oh we did and like I said like I thinking back I wish we both were on there to explain it what a bit better to say everyone down like so to speak but for me I was just one of those spur-of-the-moment things like you said I just had something on my mind I wanted to say and I when I watched it again I was like this seems kind of genuine so versus me kind of like going back and hey guys you know I love all turning on the real camera and stuff like that I wanted to be more genuine speaking for my heart and you know things happened you know and there’s definitely things I wish I would have done differently obviously everybody wishes they do you think retrospect captain hindsight but um very difficult time obviously yeah and I do apologize to everybody who’s you know effect by that you know her her family people watching the videos my family everybody is it I mean it is the decision that you’ve made that okay we’ve moved on obviously each of you yeah and so there’s no need I don’t want to ask the question I just want to ask you about the principle of not shedding any more light on it like Rudd even though that was kind of a spur-of-the-moment thing that was kind of the at least that’s the last thing I’ve said that you’ve really kind of gone on record about it right well I mean I’ve done stupid things everyone does stupid things when you’re angry and stuff like that and I that’s what I’m saying like I definitely wish I could take back but you say things when you’re angry and stuff like that but I see what he’s saying like I kind of it’s happened a long time ago she’s happy I’m happy I’m so happy for her and I just want everyone else to you know move on yet it was a situation and I do apologize you know things suck you know I mean but it’s life and that’s the whole point of these videos it’s kind of what I’m saying is like that’s the whole point of these things is like you know went through a brain tumor filmed it went through a divorce filmed it this is life everyone’s telling your parents might go through the same situation things like that happened and kind of the point of what I was doing with the videos I didn’t want to stop didn’t want to like hide it or anything like that can’t sugarcoat that you can’t put a like a CGI person or something like that a replace or anything like that you have to explain things but there was I mean leading up to the separation there was a lot of editing that had to be made right there were people I think people went back and they wanted to find out where they could see the signs like oh I know I can see it they weren’t together yeah or when they were together it was like this right yeah there’s because it’s like a treasure hunt for some people and and they want you know when the attachment goes so deep as seen a couple go through brain surgery and you know it’s how did you impact how did you experience a backlash cuz I have to think that people were upset I went through this brain surgery with you man and then you’re gonna you know no of course of course and like you know they want I imagine they’ve thrown you under the bus they’ve thrown both of us under the bus okay which sucks I mean in any relationship they’re gonna throw because if people feel betrayed and I respect that fact you know because people are invested in you for someone so long and then it’s just over but it’s not so much over like I said in the video it’s just the next chapter you know what it lets what happens in life is like there’s relationships and breaks ups breakups all the time in life and I feel like everyone’s gone through a breakup in life maybe some of the younger ones are going to so it’s going to suck but it happens and you go on to the next chapter and you make yourself happy and you want happiness for the other person and you just move on life right yeah and you know you express in that video that you you wanted to remain close to tally speed exactly what what’s this what’s the relationship like now well we we were very cordial we aren’t very close obviously you know there’s still some you know there’s still you know some things you know we’re still working on because it was it’s a hard thing to go through you know emotionally so you know it takes time to heal I’ll be both for the internet and both for us you know I mean I know the Internet’s still healing over that and we’re actually still healing over that so I know a lot of people are like wanting that quicker and it’s like you know we put all these videos on the internet and I know people want to see things quicker but we’re still healing you know lifesteal handling soon so but you come to something like VidCon you guys you cross paths that’s the difficult thing oh that’s what I’m saying like we’re very cordial when you see each other yeah we see the phils wedding and things like that very cordial I mean we’re not don’t hate each other but it still takes time to heal wounds and I’m happy she’s moving on she’s getting her life together well I’m being happy as well so and I have a wonderful girlfriend as well so you know moving on with our next chapter in life and was there I mean that whole process of like okay I’ve announced this separation and now I’ve got this new woman in my life how did you make decisions about when you were going to introduce right I say where’s that alley yeah to your audience because there’s I mean you know obviously there’s the internet is just completely full of speculation about the timeline and but I’m not gonna speculate about that right internet enough speculation of people think things and it got to love reddit for digging deeper but yeah I mean people find timelines but it’s not what it appears on the Internet just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean that’s what it was and that unfortunately people have made wrong assumptions on all accounts on so many things and you know we were wanting to take her time to introduce you know we were still taking our time so we didn’t want to rush into things as well you know so we had to take our time before we made the decision to I mean essentially introducing somebody to anybody even bringing anyone into a vlog for me is like introducing to your family yeah so it takes some time to think about it and then eventually do it but unfortunately things happened and we were forced really quickly because people were making wrong assumptions and you know things got really out of hand really fast on both for her and for myself and you know can’t have that I didn’t want that the hate that was going to it was affecting too many people too quickly and how did you how did she handle that coming in I mean obviously when you just look at it from an outsider just watching your vlogs it’s like hold on they were this was a happy family a couple of months ago right yeah and now there’s a new girl and she’s named Allie yeah what yeah and then they they think just because of the worst thing I would have to say is just because things are on the internet doesn’t mean it’s what they are because like just because somebody likes a photo likes comments or something like it likes an Instagram photo they assume the worst like if you like something for example your wife isn’t gonna think something like you know what I mean right I like I don’t I’ve liked food took pictures of walls you know – anything on Instagram is people take that and run with assumptions and I feel like that’s where the internet kind of needs to just trust people and just to clarify you’re addressing the allegations that there was a relationship but before prior yeah and which it was not and that was completely wrong and out of control and I felt bad because Allie Wes was being brought into something like this and she was taking it like a champ but deep down she was hurt very hurt that people were saying things and assuming things based on nothing you know what I mean – assuming assumptions and she’s taken some time it’s been a year and a half everyone’s moving on it’s great because you know life is moving on and stuff like that she’s able to come to these VidCon things she’s meeting people people are you know kind of apologizing to her mainly for making the assumption that you know not giving her a chance and stuff like that and saying horrible things and it’s I understand she understands – so you know she talks to him that you know people get hurt you know they say things really quickly without thinking and it’s nice to see that the Internet’s coming back together because there was a rough there was a rough year and a half yeah well I know you guys have moved on but we appreciate you taking the time to to talk about it of course you talk about everything yeah I know I’ll definitely definitely it’s actually the first time I actually got to really talk yeah online about it so it’s pretty was kind of nervous nervous about that but hopefully under everyone understands it and doesn’t take things the wrong way but yeah well thanks for you know being open oh yeah and what now I mean is there an end date to the vlogs are you going if are you gonna do it what’s today the 27th something something we don’t know yeah I’m 27 the 20th you’ll never know guys as long as you keep doing it it’s a record that no one can ever break that’s the interesting thing yeah it’s not like setting a world record in like the breaststroke yeah you know you have to wait at least seven years for somebody or break it yeah right so I’ll have seven years of being nervous yes so I don’t know I really honestly don’t know I so many cool things that I could probably have in my life you know the band’s tour still touring a lot you know yeah we didn’t get a chance to talk about that yeah and now you’re a rock star in addition to all these other that was a great thing that I kind of stumbled into because we’ve been friends with as a kid you know recording that filming that you know the process of that doing the albums and just life you know you know eventually I’m saying this down the line guys don’t get assumptions you know kids you know down the road family and it’s really exciting to see down the world road to be able to document that – yeah that’s a huge process I mean you guys have kids so you know there’s yeah but I guess if Shay is any example eventually you just won’t be able to keep up anymore it’s gonna yeah you’re gonna start dropping days watch those kids go yeah day 18 off the stopcock maybe stopping kid 18 I’m sorry all right man well uh we don’t want you to stop so keep going and we wish you the best hey thanks for uh of course for letting us process all this with you of course thank you guys for having out here here’s a fun little game guys go back and listen to this and see how many times I voice correct okay all right and are we gonna fly we’re gonna put a vlog you’ve logged before we started yeah I’m gonna vlog know that you survived it okay guys so we’re just now ending what episode number is this whoa now you’re getting really technical I mean eighty something okay eighty something of ear biscuits and I just wanted to say I’m vlogging on it so I’m vlogging on it right now did you do you feel good I feel because you were like I don’t know how this is gonna be you didn’t know I didn’t know what it was gonna be like I actually really actually this is what I sound like this is actually kind of interesting but ya know we actually talked about a lot of things I was really super nervous luckily these guys are people I probably know I’m probably the most ten years right yeah getting here getting close a decade yeah getting old so yeah you guys can listen to this whenever they upload it when you guys upload let’s see we’re batching these so it’ll be a few weeks we’re gonna make it we’re gonna make you wait a little bit right probably the most nerve-wracking thing I’ve ever talked about and you got it out of me all right [Music] and there you have it our conversation with Charles Trippy tweeted him guys let him know what you thought about conversation his handle is Charles Trippy use hashtag ear biscuits yeah and especially we want to just express that we appreciate him being so open he told us after we finished recording that he was nervous about coming on here knowing that we would ask some questions about his relationship with ally and and you know he’s lived his life in front of everyone out there who watches his content but you know that’s he can cut edit it right I mean it’s his life and he’s extremely open about it but he has the ability to kind of present it in a way that he’s like well if I don’t want them to know about that then I won’t tell him but he had the courage to come on here and let us basically grill him towards the end there okay about these these questions and the internet speculation so and address some of that yeah thanks to Charles for doing we appreciate that tweeted him let let him know what you think you know another thing that I really enjoyed about the conversation was it was a refresher for me going you know going back through his experience all the way to the beginning of YouTube with how much he did help shape what so many people after him started to do like I said in the intro to developing a genre of clickable Internet content even before the daily vlog thing you know just having them he was one of the only people that was getting traction on those kind of videos way back in the day and and pushing just pushing the medium in a lot of ways not the sketches and also just vlogs and everything in between that just became clickable thumbnailing tile every single name any aspect of it and you could always kind of look at his channel and figured it out and I was reminded of that one thing we didn’t talk about another example of experimentation was the live stream where he and Sheikh Carl and it’s Brent you remember this all three of them decided to see who could stay up the longest and it’s it precipitated from the new technology of live streaming and people doing life casting like justine was broadcasting every moment of her day but even when she slept and a couple of other people were doing that on justin.tv I think they were on blogtv when that started I can’t remember I think that’s where it was not Ustream not Justin but blog TV because we went into the chat room we had met him in Philly and then we were like becoming more the community so we were able to enter each person’s chat room and I don’t know how long they stayed up I don’t one that didn’t try Carl in it I think Shane me of one but it was I mean it was days that they stayed up and they were broadcasting all of it on the internet and you know at a certain point they were all like falling asleep in front of their webcams which is hilarious with people in the comments like talking to him maybe we should do that again I don’t want to be a part of it though I hate staying up oh yeah me too I mean it gets it past midnight now I’m just like what what is this a lock-in but it’s the spirit of experimentation and pioneering captured in that moment that it’s just like okay you can live stream let’s do it without sleeping it’ll be fun you know he and Shay were spurring each other on even with the daily vlog thing and unit in it it’s just a lesson and a reminder that when you try things things happen that you didn’t expect there’s unexpected byproducts that might lead to your career or breaking a Guinness World Record or doing seven years of you know that continues to be the thing that is just blows my mind and you know as coming from two guys who yes we do have a date a daily internet show but we’re not constantly broadcasting our lives and we’re and we don’t have to personally edit every single second of video every single day and I’d really cannot believe it there’s no one’s ever gonna come close to the record I mean I just did just no way it’s gonna be broken I mean first of all it continues to build every single day right but there’s no way anybody else is gonna break that well it’s possible especially if they invent technology to age twice as fast would that count towards catching up well you know the reason it will never be broken in a way that he’s doing it which is someone who’s filming it and then editing themselves but when it becomes like a robot camera that’s on you that does a automatic that doesn’t count because that’s gonna happen that’s next I think the bigger question is why on earth would anyone develop technology to age twice as fast oh I didn’t even know III heard you I thought you said I assumed that you said age more slowly big because that would have made some sense I did listen you gotta age faster you every your do every one of your days has to equal everyone else’s two days in order for him to catch it or her to catch up with Charles well in seven days from now we’ll have another ear biscuit for you and Charles Trippy will have seven more vlogs for you you know that’s sort of the that’s the pattern that we’ve all established and you can count on all of us as we’ve established so we’ll speak at you next week guys thank you [Music] [Music]