Channel: Mythical Kitchen
YouTube Video ID: hwuztjYUTZk
Episode Post Date: April 30, 2026
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I'm John Marcosi and this is my last meal. [bell] Every person has exactly two things in common. We all got to eat and we're all going to die. Today's guest is an actor, comedian, and podcast host who sold out theaters all across the globe. And he's coming to a town near you. You can catch his 60-minute comedy special out on his YouTube page, but of course you know him from his work in the teeth whitening infomercial space. John Marcos, welcome to the show. Hello. One of my first TV credits. Paid in teeth whitener. And uh I didn't use the product, so it was a lie. Full lie. Wow. >> It was it was it was like a 10-year contract. And it I never heard about it. And then during CO or postco, everyone was getting their teeth looking good cuz they had been, you know, scured away for so long. And then it was everywhere. It was on CBS. And so I I looked I was like please can I renew this contract, get some money or some more teeth whitening products, frankly. And uh that's couldn't get it. Well, we got some teeth whitening products for you today. We got the Power Swabs whitening swab. >> We couldn't afford your full day rate of the two-month plan. And so we figured we'd at least send you home with this. >> This is worth 3 years back in the day. Thank you so [laughter] much. Good >> time, man. Uh have you thought about your last meal before? >> Never with this complexity. I always thought of it like one dish, not seven. >> Yeah. And it was always McDonald's in my head. It wasn't like fancy. It was pure nostalgia based. That's my treat. >> Um, how often do you think about death in general? >> A lot. A ton. I had I had terrible death anxiety growing up. You're one of those kids. >> I I think it was it was first Are you afraid of the dark? I don't know if we're a civil age. You know that show. No, no, no, no, no. That wasn't a question. What What a great title. Are you afraid of the dark was like a show. There was an episode where some guy, he plays a a pinball machine. He's not supposed to. He goes in the pinball machine. He beats the whole thing, but then he starts at the beginning and it's like it's just the moment of like uh eternity, infinite. I went to my I went to my parents room all the time. [music] Um dad's house, he's bachelor, I sleep in the bed. Mom's house, stepdad was not going to let me sleep in the bed, so I'd sleep on the side of the bed. I think I definitely interrupted [music] the one time they were going to have sex that year. And I didn't know, but I remembered the look on his face. And then when I later learned about sex, I was like, "Oh, wow. I ruined his year." In college, it feels kind of classic. Just a real like, "What happens when you die?" And I I I would look for like scientists or philosopher cuz I was skeptical. I was a skeptical person. And I was I like looked into like ESP and all the I think it's why I'm so I'm so anti all this stuff now cuz >> you know remote viewing you know that there's people >> but we found someone who claimed they did remote viewing and they were like put an object on top of your microwave and I'm going to send drawings and I put a a recorder for like a flute and I don't know why I had it and he sent back a rectangle, a circle, a triangle and he was like any of those resonate and I'm [laughter] Man, there's nothing. I just chilled naturally. I don't know what changed. But yeah, college, it just like it I should have seen a therapist. I should have seen a therapist right away. There's no answer. There's no answer to any of this. You know what there is though? There's ravioli. Great segway. You ready to eat? So ready to eat. [bell] >> Marco, for the first course of your final meal on earth, we have the beef ravioli. Wow. with not only buton sauce, but this is the special recipe sores sauce with extra butter and sugar and then one secret ingredient that does not exist and then an ice cold yohoo and some GDA chocolates. >> Wait. Okay, so tell me the sores sauce. What What do you What did you How did you find it? I tried to put myself into your dad's shoes of what he could add to this to make it feel special. >> And I added butter and then sugar cuz that's a natural one. And then just just a little bit of the oldest oregano that you've ever seen. 6 years old. Has no flavor left. I can't believe that you cuz that is what it is. I was going to send sauce and I asked my dad and every time he sends me back something I'm like this is Chhat GPT. You can't ask Chachi PT what sizes sauces if you made it up. He sends me back. Oh, suddenly the most concise answer this man has ever delivered in his entire life. No, this is fake. But it's he always talked about this. He always talked about this rich Italian culture and I'm pretty sure that's all it was was just butter >> and sugar cuz I'm pasting it now and I'm like, "Wow, you nailed my legendary family's sauce." [music] So my parents were divorced and and my dad was just didn't know how to cook. So it was either it was either noodles and soup or or just ravioli. And I think he leaned into ravioli cuz he wanted me to think I was 100% Italian. And this is what I ate every day. Did you ever really impress him with how many you could swallow whole without chewing? John Marco, did you get know that. I don't even know where you would have that information >> cuz I if I'm if I'm there, I'm imagining I'm seeing my my tall linky baby boy and he swallows one ravioli. I go that well that's not that impressive. But once he gets up to five, six ravioli swall I'm like [laughter] this kid's really going for it. >> I don't even know where I could have possibly have mentioned that dude where I thought it was impressive how many raviolis I could swallow and I'm rusty. I used to do six as a kid and I don't know what I was thinking. I had no enjoyment just just all the chemicals to me. There's an easy armchair therapist answer of like, God, you were trying to get this man's attention any way you knew how. And you had a mouth and there were raviolis in front of you to a captive audience. >> I guess so. I guess so. When you don't have talents, you got to invent new ones, you know. >> You know, I'm not that I am a little Italian. He made me think I was 100% Italian, which is impossible cuz my mom's Jewish, >> which is also to say made you think you were 0% Jewish. >> Yes. Like an immaculate birth from my father. You ended up on a bit of a wild goose chase in Sicily looking for Italian relatives. >> Well, I I did like backpacking after college, which I'm so glad I did. But my dad, so he said, "Whenever you get to Italy, you got to meet the Series." And then I got to Italy and I called and I said, "Hey, I'm here. Where are they?" And he was like, "I can't track him down." He he he googled, this is before Chachi, so he was just googling. He said, "There's something called Seri Villa." And I was like, "But do we know them there?" And he's like, "I don't know." But during co Nicolo Surzi reached out to me. So this is it is real. My great grandpa Luigi Serezi was Italian. >> He was a a a promoter or like manager for a boxer. Unfortunately the only picture I have of him is with Mussolini. >> No. >> Yes. Oh yes. It's available. >> The one the main Mussolini. >> The main one. You some kind of you know a dinner affair. >> Uh what year? >> Uh before he did any of the bad stuff. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And um Nicolo Surzi reached out to me and I think he's like my cousin twice removed or whatever. But there is a there was a seri pasta. [music] There was a seri pasta. That's a real thing. It was in magazines. There's a seri street and it's around Sicily. So it is real. >> Yeah. >> I don't know what percentage I am. And my dad only cares about the father's side. It feels like a very dad thing to do is to get very into their family heritage for seemingly um undiagnosible reasons. Mhm. >> Do you like was that a later thing in life? Was that him trying to find like grasp at some sort of roots that he could hold on to? >> I think his his father kind of abandoned the family. It wasn't a it was a tough family. >> And so I think when you lack community, >> you look towards um whatever culture has provided you. And there is this Italian Hollywood based culture that like I think my dad sees the Godfather. >> Yeah. and goes like, "That's where I'm from." And he he he uh hated his father. I never met I never met my my dad's dad. He's like, "Okay, if I don't like this guy, can I go beyond it into some deep >> deep deeper sense of belonging?" >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And it's easier to deal with with way back in the past with people you never met cuz you have no reason to hate them. >> Sure. >> Even if they did dinners with Mussolini. Where does the Yoooo come from? This was the jam back then. It's like this is still like I'm like ooh I remember. Did you grow up with those kind that kind of consciousness about food that was good or bad for you? I know you said that a lot of your early standup was about mov. >> Yeah. It's like it's we grew up in the prime time for uh moobage. I was uh not overweight but I was chubby and I just had a lot in my pecs and we would do so many pool parties. I mean, I don't know why they would do this to to kids going through puberty, but I would get out of the pool and I would be so self-conscious. I'd wear my my towel like up here and the guys would go, "That's how women wear towels." And I remember this kid, his name was Blake Marriott, part of the Marriott fortune. >> Oh. >> And he went up to me and he went booby [laughter] like a boxer. But I never made the connection between food and like my my moves. I was so unathletic. >> I hated working out. I hated I hated PE. I was self-conscious about my body, but I never but I ate like garbage. I mean, just this >> Well, sure. Yeah. I mean, it's yoooo and and raviolis. When you were younger, I mean, you grew up with so many different steparents, parents divorced since you could remember. Did you feel a sense of powerlessness? And did you find a single moment where you're like, "Oh, this is how I can bring power and control into my life despite being among relative chaos." I think there was like my dad's house. I had autonomy >> probably too much. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then my mom's house was like this really strict place cuz my stepfather was very conservative. My mom like like went the opposite direction with her second husband. Like maybe that'll work. There was this moment. It was my it was my 14th or 15th birthday. And so we're at like a we were at like the beach at a beach house for the weekend. I couldn't reach my dad all day. I was having anxiety attack. I thought like he had died >> um and he was probably just cheating on someone. And he called me late, like 8:00 p.m. My mom and stepdad, we had all played a board game. My mom started, everyone was drinking. It was getting ugly. My dad called my stepped, we were going to get ice cream. My stepdad said, "Uh uh, don't pick up that phone." And and I was like, "Oh, can I stay behind? I need to get ice cream. I'd like to talk to my my dad." And he he said, "Get in the car. We're getting ice cream." First time anyone's ever said that as like a threat. >> Yeah. Really? >> And and we get in the car. My dad calls again. And then then it goes a voicemail leaves beep and my stepfather he says you can call him back but I did not give you that phone to talk to that man. Now they had had listen how old you are at this point. This is my birthday so like I was just 14 or 15 something there. >> Bad age to say to that child >> and I'd never spoken up to this man. I mean he's just just very intimidating. I called my dad back. We talked for like a minute and then we got to the ice cream place. He looked over and he went and [snorts] I hung up the phone and I turned in my sister. It's her birthday to in the back seat, four years younger. And I turned myself, I said, "You're just mad cuz my dad your wife before you did." And he didn't applaud at all. I It was It was uh I think he was shocked. And it was like it was this moment where I I really felt like I utilized my ability to like see the for what it was. >> Yeah. And even though it wasn't like a comedic thing, it felt very much to me like what comedy is where it's just like I'm saying the thing on its face. >> And he was shocked and him and mom got a big fight. It wasn't a It wasn't a a fun night, but I I really felt like like an adult. Like I felt like I finally said some of the things I was feeling about that relationship. you you're saying the obvious thing but with that very specific detail which I think is one of the beautiful things about your comedy like when you know you talk a lot about your your dad cheating and your mom in various stepmoms but it's like the specificity of these insane situations that you're in when you were a kid like uh seeing him give candy to the new woman to then hand to you as if you're a dog >> I had those exact same memories I had like a a really she she's the mom of my my halfsister on my dad's side. I I loved her and I think it was just like after a number of women like just disappeared from my life because they would break up. >> Sure. >> And and they would just vanish that like by the time my dad got another long relationship when I was like 13, 14, I mean I was I was iced to her. I don't think I was mean per se, but I was just like I'm not doing this this charade anymore. you you'll be gone by Christmas. You know, there was one woman, she always came over, we played Monopoly, and I remember not again, I didn't know it at the time, but she we went into the car. She said, "Hey, I got a promotion at work. I'm not I'm going to be too busy to come around much anymore." And I remember saying, "Can we still play Monopoly sometime?" And she said, "Yeah, maybe." I've never saw the woman. >> Single tear falls down her cheek. Yes. >> Never saw her again. And in the spirit of all that, can I offer you a random Gdiva chocolate? >> We did eat some of them. And this is quite an old box. We figured that is the only way that people were eating Gdiva chocolates. >> It fits. Yep. >> So my dad, we, you know, we get a Gdiva and he would, that would be the dessert for lunch. He would put one Gdiva uh in with the ravioli and the yoooo, two helpings of chocolate, and they'd get old. And in fourth grade, I took a bite of one like, oh, it was like little like white little like paste things here. And then it started moving and I was like, oh my god. We had kept this gada for so long and it was so unckempt. There was like little baby maggots in the chocolate. But this one's good. [bell] >> America for the second course of your final meal on Earth. Uh, we've entered the sushi and carrots course. Wow. >> Um, along with some hot sake as well. Can I pour you some hot sake, >> please? I I went to Japan this year. I did an Asia tour, but we we did two weeks in Japan to start cuz I just was It's been my [music] dream. >> Hey, come by. >> Come by. >> God, I love sake. >> That is really nice. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Warms you up. >> Japan's amazing. >> I've never been. I'd really like to go. I've got to go. >> Oh, I got to go. I got to go. >> Everyone's doing it now. It is the thing. Someone told me that like India was for a while was like the Eat, Pray, Love thing, and now it's it's Japan. >> You were introduced to sushi at a relatively young age by your mom. But also, I want to focus on a different part of the story. If you notice the flag that is here, tell me about the Filipino nanny community of PTOIC, Maryland. We have some lubia here if you'd like to partake. My babysitter's growing up on my mom's side. Uh, maternal babysitter and paternal babysitter, you know. >> Sure. and uh uh Filipino and uh uh lived lived in our house for a while as well with with her daughter and we ate [music] for for a white boy in PTOIC, Maryland. We ate so much rice and egg rolls and I think it just informed my love of Asian cuisine and I always think of like my like my main carb thing that I would do, it's rice and it's because of her. >> I love that. Dig in. >> Thank you. Uh, an sarap as they say in Tagalog. My mom likes sushi when it was still like sushi. I don't eat raw. I like my fish cooked. >> That was That was a definitely a big moment. Come bite. Come by. >> I don't Are you supposed to shoot it every time or you just sipping it? >> I'm just matching you. I don't think so. >> Trying to match you. We're doing it at the same time. >> Yeah, I think you sip it gradually and peacefully. Okay, so we have an assorted sushi platter here. We have some ai tuna. We have a little bit of yellowtail brushed with soy and a little bit of serrano pepper. We have like a spicy salmon gunkan maki with a little bit of salmon row on top. Then we have a little tuna cut roll and then a nice little yellow tail crunchy roll right here. >> Incredible. >> Oh, and then some uh white fish with caviar. >> I love it all. >> Hell yeah, man. >> I'll eat anything. >> Um yeah, I'm so thankful. My mom gave me a really good diverse diet. [music] So, I wasn't picky growing up and I really am grateful for that. >> Is there anything you won't eat? >> Nothing. Not a single thing. I want to take take me all the way to the edge of the earth. I had a >> Let me live there for a while. >> A baby sparrow in Japan. Oh, it's a place called Circus and Rice or Rice and Circus. Circus embry goal is clearly like pushing you. You could get a snake. They had a whole penis menu. Every animal's penis. >> Most dangerous penis of all. Man, [snorts] >> I don't think that was there. >> Fair. >> Your mom is Jewish, but more culturally Jewish. Not actually practicing the religion. >> She did. We did Passover. We went to temple a couple of times. She made a great hala. But it's really my girlfriend now that's connected me more to my Judas than my mom did. >> She grew up in a hazid community. Yeah. And she was in a kabad community in New Orleans. [music] A terrible place for the garbs. I mean, it's so hot. >> So just wet. >> They really believe in God. >> They really do. I think they probably really do, which is an interesting story dichotomy. I feel like I'm somebody who is almost plagued by skepticism, but I'm dying to believe. >> I hear same brother. Hey, where do we fall? What happens? Where do we go? There's got to be something. >> Drugs. >> Drugs. >> Yeah, >> been there. I get a little scared sometimes. A lot of psychosis runs in my family. >> I don't know if it's about God. I don't know. There's a lot of >> think it's ever actually about God, though. I think it's almost all about having something to do on on not a Sunday, a Saturday, Friday. You know what I mean? But as you get older, you go, "Oh, no phones Friday, sundown to Saturday." You go, "Oh, maybe we do need that." Yeah. >> The older I get, the more I go, "Yeah, it's I have trouble with the origin of all these traditions, but dear God, my life's no better." >> The more okay with conservatism, you you must be the first person that that's ever happened to. >> You don't look at the s you go, "Oh my god, if on Friday, if I had to go go away for a whole 24 cycle and no one worked." That's the beauty of it. It's not that you don't work. It's that we all agree no one's getting ahead in the race right now and we're all going to chill. >> That's what I like about it. You bring it back. Bring back more Jews in show. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm working on that. >> You've lost control of our police for the love of God. And change your name. Oh my god. That is terrible. You had an agent try and get you to change your name to something more Jewish at some point. >> Early manager said, "We're going to get you a meeting at ABC. This meeting never materialized. By [music] the way, they're going to say hear your name. They're going to expect Jamarosi to walk in and Jamarco is going to walk in." I was like, "Please, I don't like this." >> I said, "No, I would never change my name." I was 20. I was like 23 when they brought this up. I was like, "That's it's a crazy rebrand at this age." Well, my dad, again, this is my dad's He told me it was Gian Marco. That's cuz he liked to say it that way. And then I mean at time they go, "No, it's John Marco." >> And I go, "Well, me. I'm 16. I didn't know how to say my name this whole time." >> Yeah. Your dad sort of accidentally backed out of Italian in an effort to be more Italian. >> My mom's original last name was Rothkrug, which is no better. I mean, there's many families who still have that. It's it's a hideous name. >> There's there's sometimes where I want to believe in cultural relativism. Like I I don't know if French is actually the most beautiful language or if we've just seen a couple romantic depictions [music] of French films. >> Sure. >> I think Yiddish is the least it's got to be the least romantic language though, right? There's a real lack of aesthetic beauty in it, >> but there's so much comedic schle. >> Yeah, >> there is there is that stick of it all. See, my mom was culturally Jewish, but I I really do believe like as I got into comedy and I complained and I was negative. I was like, I do think this comes from Jewishness. And it's always hard to tell in your life what things you're just like globbing yourself onto a culture that exists. But I was like, there's something about the negativity. I I I once called my mom and I swear the first thing she said, she said, you know, I don't think I've ever felt joy. And I said, "Well, happy Mother's Day nonetheless." And I do think like that is a thread where I would find myself talking to people who were raised more Jewish and there was just a degree of they never said to me, "Hey, look on the bright side." >> No. >> And I go, "Oh, well, that's that's part of it." I grew up in a big evangelical Christian area in southern southern Orange County, >> and they all had this loving paternal God that they could look to. And I had a very Christian girlfriend that had mean drunk parents. [music] And she was like, "When I think of Jesus up there loving me unconditionally, I feel hope for the first time." [music] My only exposure to God was, "He's tremendously mean and he doesn't exist." See, I got a slightly more optimistic version. I asked my mom during my existential crisis, "Uh, what do you think happens when you die?" And she said, "There's got to be something better than this shit." In a way, that's that's that's hopeful. What's the deal with the carrots, man? >> I love carrots. My dad, we had a little garden and we we grew like we're talking carrots like this tall. And I would chew on the stems. I like chewing on the stems. >> And then and then >> you sound like a dust bowl farmer's kid, you know? >> It was like gum. It was like early gum. And then and then when I got to college, I think I've always I've always had oral fixations, right? >> Yeah. >> Used to Never was a thumb sucker. Was a a shirt sucker. disgusting [music] ring of spitut sucker nut pens. I've swallowed the back of of so many pens. So then later you go, "Well, this is not socially acceptable, but baby carrots are." So that became an oral fixation where I would just eat so many baby carrots and and from the garden. And then I like the juice and um it's just something I I love. It's a healthy snack. It is. >> I don't know why we don't have more healthy snacks in this country. It it it drives me nuts. But baby carrots are Exactly. But baby carrots. Where's Where's Where's Big Baby Carrot? That should be a thing. I I actually kind of agree with you. I think we need to fight fire with fire. There was a point where the Dole Corporation started using predatory marketing tactics, using cartoon characters, but on carrots to get kids to buy carrots. And I was like, I'm all for it. So, I used to eat a bag a day. Well, get this. My mom told me when [snorts] I was younger, she was worried about me because my skin was turning a little bit orange. And it's because she was feeding me so much cream carrots and they say that babies is their their pigmentation is susceptible at that age. So it's because of that. >> So I'm convinced there's something deep deep deep. >> When my when my girlfriend and I we met [music] during co and she was she was you know she was a manager and I was a comedian and it was a crazy time. I don't if you remember. >> And like we hooked up and then the next day I was I went over there to like be like we shouldn't do this and she had bought me a bag of baby carrots and I I abandoned the the plant. >> So the um if I can just run this back. So your girlfriend that you met during a very traumatic time, [music] you went to to break up with her and cut things off, but then she fed you the food that your mother used to feed you to show you her love. And you said, "Maybe that's what romantic love is." Is the same thing that my mother gave me. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Another Jew Freud would be thrilled with this. >> Cheers. >> To sigman Freud to s to sigman. That's >> You had a couple good points. >> Ready to go on to course number three. >> Yeah, but let's let's cup this up. [bell] >> Jargo, for the third course of your final meal on Earth, we have spicy ramen with extra cilantro. Oh, ice cold green tea, McDonald's, and then a fountain diet coke. Um, where should we begin? So, this this is the spicy pork ramen. We actually got this from Daikuya, which I think is probably the best ramen in Los Angeles. >> Um, and then we cooked the noodles fresh. And then we added our own extra cilantro garnish. >> Thank you. >> Which I imagine you're you're celebrating because you're away from your uh beloved. >> Yes. Well, for two reasons, cuz you said pork broth as well, right? So, [music] so this would be a nogo meal for my my my partner cuz she grew up kosher. >> So, so no pork and she has the cilantro chain. One time we're at a restaurant and uh some food comes out. Is there cilantro? I don't like cilantro. That's what she says. And I'm like, that's not severe enough. Uh they bring out the food. She takes a bite. Immediately there's cilantro. So guy comes out. She goes, there's cilantro. And he goes, you know, he goes, no, there's not. And and she goes, "There is." And he looks at me. Nope. >> He looks at me. I'm like, "Brother, that's what the tip is for. You think, baby?" >> And and so this guy is perplexed. He doesn't know what to do. >> And then he left. And then a woman came out, a a different waiter. And she said, and I thought this was just just [music] kudos to women. She said, "I'm so sorry you tasted cilantro." And I was like, "You didn't say she was right, but you acknowledge the feeling." And then at the end of the meal, the guy comes out and goes, "The chef [music] said that in the marinade for the fish before the whole thing, there was cilantro." And that is a good meal with my girlfriend. There's some cuisines she cannot have. And we waited in Japan for this, like the ramen place. An hour and a half we waited. We go in, it's only pork broth. They only have cilantro. and I'm not going to not eat. So, we parted ways for the night and we just went to halal ramen places after that. Thank God for the halal. >> Thank Muslim God. Thank God. >> Thank Muslim God. Yes. Yes. >> Jews and Muslims, they they should come together and and do what they do best, ruining dinner for everybody. >> One would think with all the similarities, you know. >> Yeah. But I ate cup noodles so much as a kid and so and I grew up on anime and manga. So all I wanted to do was to go to Japan and eat [music] noodles like like slurping into my mouth. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Uh and I love it. >> On your anniversary, you posted a really sweet message to Toba saying that she was the person that got you to learn how to live, >> which is a hell of a statement to make, especially about someone that you're vitriolically complaining about. What did you mean by that? >> I just think I'm such a workaholic by nature. I mean, I get it from my father. I think like truly the the things that she took from her Jewish upbringing were like I said about like taking that time and community, [music] you know, didn't have married parents, didn't have religion, didn't have a lot of friends, didn't have sports. So, it was just like I just worked and worked and worked. and she kind of demanded in a way that, you know, a a a stubborn Jewish woman could to really demand like you got to take some time and in a way that that's the only way that it goes through to me. I used to do standup every night. Every night. And I I think she's the [music] the arbiter of like just making space. And so I uh I'm very grateful for that because because I can be so neurotic and I can be so repetitive about it that it it takes someone who's really and another Jewish person of just like the anxiety, the constant the the the to really go like, "No, we're going to do this." And and you know, now we we did we did a Passover meal. We had our first Shabbat meal. And it's those [music] moments that I go like >> my father, you know, he's he works uh every I mean every second of the day. and and he's told me, you know, preemptively, I'm never going to go in home. I'm going to die at work or whatever. And I'm like I'm like, great. But but I also think it's [music] because I I think the the people he dated or or married were not necessarily the the kind of strong willed that were willing to stand up to his very very powerful ego. M [music] >> and one of the things I love about my girlfriend is is she has she has a formidable sense of self and and identity and and need. It leads to a lot of bickering, a lot of arguing between the two of us. But like I look at specifically the men who who don't seek out a strong partner and how they >> [music] >> um crumble as as they get older under under the weight of their own ego and their own lack of of of learning other perspectives. So I'm you know sometimes does it make dinner a little stressful? Sure. But I think it's worth it at the end of the day. >> It's worth it. Dig into this Big Mac. Oh, McDonald's fries. They got their hold on me. Do you remember the first time you ate a Big Mac? And did it feel a bit like your own version of a bar mitzvah? Uh I I I don't know if I thought bar mitzvah when when do you remember your first? >> Yeah, it felt like a it felt like a coming of age, you know? It was like my dad was like, "We have enough disposable income now to where you don't have to order off the dollar menu." >> That's so good. >> Is this a tour meal for you if you're on tour? >> No. >> No. I've had McDonald's once every two years. So, so this is the last one until until the last meal. I don't know when I have if I have kids, I'm going to have to read books about how to deal with food stuff. Cuz in my mind, I'm like never McDonald's. This is you. You shouldn't even especially in your formative years. I don't want you to have this nostalgic attachment to this poison. >> Of course. Do you think that you're gonna have the ability to slow down your career, which I bet necessarily you would have to, especially in terms of touring to be able to say have that type of family life [music] and does that scare you like the energy? >> The out of me scares the out of me to slow down touring. I I know Jim Gaff again. I messaged him and I was like I was really looking for a father-son moment. I was like, "Hey, think about just curious like what it's like to like have a real touring life with a kid." He wrote back, "Well, you should have a kid. Good luck." And I was like, "Oh, I was hoping for I was hoping for this father-son thing." And I was like, "He's got six kids." >> Yeah. He doesn't have any father this right now. >> But one of his sons opens for him on the road. I feel like we're kind of anti- [music] family businesses in some way. But there's a part of me that goes, "If I raise a videographer, oh, the world is my oyster. What a heaven." That was the history of all human society was like, "God, if only I had somebody to hoe these fields." Oh, I should have three kids cuz two of them are going to die. But one of them >> Mhm. >> can pick up that hoe and really go to town. >> One kid learns how to make stools, >> you know. >> You know, >> and then the least favorite, they're just like the assistant, you know. >> Yeah. Put an iPad in their hand early, have them have them go to town. >> I'm really nervous about it. I I love traveling, but it is exhausting, too. So I don't I don't know. I do think it'll I don't because I also think the divorce going back and forth my whole life. There is this sometimes sense of like wanting a different world like I'm I'm at this place and then I'm at this where my whole world is different or I'm on the road. I'm alone. >> Yeah. >> So like it's a good reset. I think the fear that I'm sure Tova has too is that like if I ever wasn't on the road for a long time are we going to go oh my god. We we like we like going in and out a little bit. >> Sure. >> You know that that's a dynamic, too. >> Yeah. >> I would want a kid that I' I'd bring with me on the road for some stuff. I want a kid who's well traveled. I wasn't a welltraveled kid. I think that would be cool. I didn't go to Asia until I was 37. I want a kid who's going to Asia when they're 2 weeks old cuz I got to go back to Taiwan. I got to get that soy milk bowl for breakfast. >> That does sound good with the UT the donut in it. Oh, come on. [bell] John Marco, for the final course of your final meal on Earth, we have a simple dessert of big ass brownie, assorted fruit plate. >> God damn. Plain snow cone with a squeeze bottle of condensed milk on the side. I can run you through uh most of the fruits here. >> Please do. >> So, we have some fresh pomegranate. We have some long gun. It's a cousin to the litechi. We have some fresh donut peaches. We have kiwano melon. So, these are strawberries, but they're Harry's berries. They're the best strawberries [music] in the world grown in Oxard, California. We have some big moon grapes. We have this is called a cotton candy mango. This is an alons mango. >> Cotton candy mango. >> Try that. Is that the cotton candy? I think it's cotton candy [music] mango. Um losing track here. Oh, this is really cool. It's called a melon apple. Um and then we got some classic pineapple and yellow watermelon. Fresh mango steeen here. >> Did you Did you know the thing about this? >> No. So this the number of petals reflects the number of pods in the thing. >> I had no idea. >> Yeah. I' I've never mango steeen before, which [music] is crazy. I was in Indonesia. Uh this is where I got my first in Jakarta and they're so sweet and I just love fruit and I I think I think about all these fruits that we don't get in America >> and you got them here today. So I'm [music] thrilled. Mango that's amazing. What do you have any like formative fruit experiences in your life or you just enjoy nature's bounty? And I just think we need more fruit as as a as a society as snacks as gifts. Enough a cookie, candy. That's every gift. Uh cotton candy mango. That's a gift cuz it is special. This is God. This this is God. For all of human history, we called this the work of God until now. And we go, "Oh, maybe it's the universe. Maybe the signs we're getting from the universe is God." >> I think the Big Mac is first and foremost God. >> I don't know that that's God. These are all of his angels. [laughter] >> I want to go back to your idea of skepticism and sort of calling on people with otherwise great beliefs. How much do you know about Elizabeth Kubler Ross in the medium J bar? >> Oh, I know so much about Elizabeth Kubler Ross because these were the kind of people that I I looked up to for a hot second. But Elizabeth Kubler Ross uh she came up with the seven stages of grief which are almost accepted as as fact even though like all these early psychological concepts it's just kind of a a loose Yeah, she she wrote on death and dying in in the '60s. >> Yeah. >> And then you looked up that she uh later in her life fully supported a known um uh [music] psychic medium complete scam this guy. He had like a commune, a cult or whatever with all these widows. It was all mostly women. And he'd bring back their husbands. >> Yeah. >> Uh uh to then have sex with them one last time. And so what he do or one of the tactics of it is you put on this translucent cheesecloth is what these psychics would use cuz you can really like smush it down and put it in your mouth and your ear, your and [music] you and you know you turn off all the lights, make some noises. He put he would put it over and clearly these are people who want to be tricked to a certain degree but they mistook him covered in cheesecloths for their husbands had sex with him and then he wasn't busted until I believe crabs spread around the camp and they said wow these ghost crabs are a real scourge and so this this this woman Elizabeth Kubler Ross two even after the scam was exposed still said no no no he's the real deal there was a moment when she had a friend who drove up with her 20s, they called them dark room sessions and was like, "We're both people of science. I'm going to very clearly expose this to her via the easiest methodology, which is while the lights were off and he was coming in with the Ugabooga sexy ghost, she flipped the lights on." Rather than Elizabeth Kubar Ross going, "Oh my god, it's just Jay. It's just the guy." She went, "When you flip the lights on, you killed the spirit that inhabited him. [music] You're a murderer." And that freaks me the hell out. Who do we trust? Do we only have ourselves? Are we alone, John Marco? >> I I I think so. This makes us terrible at parties. It really bums people out to hear this kind of stuff. [music] We are We are the ghost killers. We I mean, she she wasn't wrong. >> You know, in a way, she might have been being like, "You ruined this. You killed it for me." >> Sure. >> You killed it for me. I think she should have added an eighth stage of like the ghost and getting crabs. [laughter] >> That would have been nice to know. >> Yeah. acceptance of ghost crabs. >> You ever uh uh heard the term um fedist >> I believe in God because it feels good to do so. >> And this was a a mathematician Martin Gardner I think his name was. He was like a a big skeptic but he was still Catholic or whatever. And he basically said like I believe in God because it feels good to do so. When I was younger I was like that's a copout. You're so you're saying you don't believe in God. And I'm not a full atheist atheist. I I always like pansychism. Do you know pansychism? the idea that that consciousness is an inherent element of like all all things cuz I I do think it emerging out of dead matter is is also hard to fully believe. That's the only thing I hold on to. But no, we are alone. We we are alone and no one wants to hear this kind of talk. And at the end of the day, if I'm on my deathbed and I go like, "Oh, I see there's Elizabeth and she's getting railed and she's she's like, "Come join us. There's tinctures for ghost crabs in heaven. And if I say that, I don't want I don't want you there being like, "Nah, >> no. >> Turn let me turn on the lights. I'm going to say, "No, >> let me go." >> And I promise you, I would never do that to you. >> My my [clears throat] good friend Russell. Uh he he had a friend who worked at like a retirement community. [music] And you know how there's sometimes a comfort when like an old person there's like a video old person blowing out her hundred candles on the cake and going, "I hope this is my last birthday." And there's a comfort to it because you go, "Oh, well, maybe someday I'll I'll be fine with dying. >> That's the goal. Yeah, >> maybe someday." >> And this this this woman told my friend who works at the retirement committee, she said, "Trust me, at [music] the end, none of them are ready to go. Do you believe that?" Uh, it sounds pretty horrifying. So, yeah, it does feel like it reflects my understanding of the world. >> Oh, isn't isn't that wonderful? The way we accept information. I think all you can hope for is that by the end you're drugged up enough that you can believe in ghosts. >> Amen. Man, >> um there's ice melting here. What's the deal with the plain snow cone? >> So, when I was younger, I I the snow cone, it was flavor was too strong. And so, I would always get a plain snow cone. I went to a summer camp and this guy knew me. He gave it to me for free. He'd sometimes put like a Swedish fish in it. But I like it plain. I like the texture. I've bought four different snow coat making machines. They break really fast. I love eating snow. You can't do that much in New York, but this is the closest you can get. And then if you are feeling a little indulgent, some condensed milk, >> nothing better than condensed milk in this world. >> When you were going through all of those death anxiety phases, was there anything that ever actually made you feel better? Any mantra that when you lay your head down at night, you think about? >> I wish, brother. I wish, brother. If if I could go back to my younger self dealing with this, like I mean at the point where I'd be on my computer just hours every day just like looking up [music] things. I would go I go, "Buddy, here's a solution. When you're thinking about death, do this. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. [laughter] Don't think about it. Don't think about it. Don't think about it." And and [music] I don't know if I would have been able to take it. The lesson is a lesson I learned when I when I get stoned because sometimes your mind will go there. And I learned in that moment I was like I there's no choice. There's no answer >> on that other side. That's comforting. You just got to pivot. And so I do think that's part of it. >> What I actually believe is we are all stuck on this rock inexplicably due to a miracle that should have never happened, but ultimately had to happen. And we need a way to simply pass the time and find some sort of meaning before we die. And so we crossbreed new fruits. We try and make a a strawberry that's red all the way through. And it was a it was a guy who said, "I'm gonna make this red." And he spent decades >> trying to make this red. And then he did it and he got to die more fulfilled than if he hadn't, you know. And you're doing that one crowd clip, one crowd work clip at a time. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Inching towards fulfillment till one day you get to die and then see on the other side whether there's a god or not, it's all the same. >> That's why I do the crowd work. I'm hoping at the end one day I go, "It's enough. It's enough." And then I kill myself on stage. So, the brownie. So, my mom instilled in me like, "Oh, if you get 100% on the spelling test, you get like two desserts." And listen, God bless. I don't know how you teach kids how to do things, but it created a real reward dynamic system for food in my head. And I I did really well in spelling. I I don't feel very proud to be an American these days, but I've had desserts pretty much all over the world at this point. And I gotta say a a chocolate chip cookie and a brownie and milk. [music] >> That's where I feel like now we we did it. [laughter] >> Just so I don't like cake. [music] Too sweet. Cream's too much. >> Sure. >> I like density to my dessert. >> Yeah. >> Mark, if there's a gun to your head, someone says, "What happens when you die?" You got to give an answer. What do you think it is? >> Whatever. If should there be anything, you will not know it. There will be no version of you. Uh as Epicurus said, uh when I am, death is not. When death is, I am not. [music] I believe consciousness is not an emergent phenomena. I think there's something so [music] inherent to the fact that the only way we know anything is anything is because we ourselves are conscious. So you can't separate these two things. >> I just don't I I don't believe in necessarily an a a nothingness. And I think it can be comforting in one sense, but it's also terrifying. >> You have a tremendously comforted uh posture right now that you've adopted. >> Like in a way, it's like, yeah, you maybe again, it's not you. You don't become a stream, but you but you're part of things. [music] Uh and and honestly, it's better that way because you know, reincarnation isn't com isn't comforting. You could be reincarnated as a some human with a great life, or you could be reincarnated as the cow we just ate in the the hamburger. My poor kid, when they come to me, cuz I don't want to lie to them. I don't want to do it like my parents did and like present a thing, but I'll be like, I think there's there's something. >> I feel better already. >> Uh, you ready to get in the lightning round? [laughter] >> Yeah, >> let's do it. Who's the one person dead or alive you'd want to share your actual last meal with? >> I think it would be really interesting to meet my my uh my grandfather, my dad's side, just to see. I don't know if it would be a great meal. I think I think it maybe it could be the one thing that could get me to forgive my father. If you had a line in Wolf of Wall Street, what would you have said? >> Oo, I would said, um, let me do a line, too. Because there was a lot of cocaine doing and not in the scene I was in. There was all these guys, like 200 guys, [music] and we're goofing around. Someone put a sign on someone's back that said, "I have herpes." No one was watching us, just 200, the saddest actors in the entire world watching their dreams happen 100 feet away from them. And and at some point they they called cut. First director, second director, third director, the fourth director said, "Guys, Mars say someone walked by the screen and said, "I have herpes on their back. You can't do this." And and then we all got disciplined. So I would say, "Let me do let me do a bump." Who's your dream eulogizer at your funeral? Oh, Tova. Tova is phenomenal. Tova surprised me once where Caleb Hon actually was doing a spot on on my show and then he brought her up >> and she did she did a a a [music] killer killer five minute set. >> She had a great bit about how it's different when you complain about her cilantro allergy on set versus when she tells her two friends that you don't make her come >> and it's a really great bit. >> It's a really great >> It's a great bit. >> You know, she's got her own complicated feelings with her religious upbringing and it gave a lot of beautiful traditions, but at the same time it limited her from a lot of the all the artistic ventures I got to pursue wholeheartedly. [music] You know, you see pockets like that, that one five minute set and you're like, "Oh, yeah, 100%." >> 100%. You could have been >> felt like she was a professional. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. She is. >> She is. >> What's a role on Broadway that you know you could crush right now? >> Marvin and Falsettos. >> It's not on Broadway right this second. Is that okay? I don't care. Uh, what's your biggest fear? >> Mediocrity. Mediocrity. I think about uh Sally and Amadeas often and I go I've I've inserted myself amongst Mozarts and I've have made myself necessary but at the end of the day I'm mediocre. So that's the fear. >> What's a moral quandry you'd like to see on Hidden Camera Show? What would you do? The one I I think I even tried to pitch to them, one of my openers on the road, his name is Liam Nelson, and he's uh he's 7 feet tall. He has more fans. And when you're with him, you see how many people, how tall are you? Uh uh guys go and then you have to go, "Yes." "Oh, just didn't expect a guy that tall." Oh, one guy said, "What's I know what your favorite four-letter word is? D U C K." [music] And you go, "God, how old is that 110 year old man?" >> He was It was cigar bar. Yeah. He was old. He died right after. And And uh >> Good. >> Yeah. Good. We said good. He said D E A D. And I really want something about like when would someone step in cuz they saw so many people like bothering him cuz it just it's so much. So that that's the what would you do is like what would you do if you saw a tall man getting annoyed? >> I can see why they I can see why they didn't do that. >> I haven't done it yet. Finally, John Marco, are you happy? >> Uh, yeah. I'm really I'm tired and my body hurts. I feel overstretched, but I am happy. >> Yeah, I'm very happy that we got to share this meal together despite the tiredness and the overstretchedness. This is like truly a joy. I've been a fan for such a long time and I really appreciate your perspective. If you want to deliver your last words to that camera right there, [music] one more thing. Jares, everybody, you can catch him on tour. What city is he going to? You going to be in Tulsa? Uh, I'm everywhere. Just find me online and listen to my podcast, The Downside. But I'm traveling all over. I'm going to Europe. I'll be back in Asia. I just love to talk. >> The perfect way to elevate all of your meals. The last meals bar set is available now at mythical.com.
