Is your mind messing with your memory? – Let’s talk about that. (lively music) Good Mythical Morning! – When we started talking about doing an episode on the Mandela Effect, I could have sworn we had done one already, like I remember it happening. – And I was like, “An episode on the Mandela Effect? No, no way that happened.” – Well, the Mandela effect, of course, is when a lot of people share the same false memory. And if you don’t know, it got its name from people misremembering that Nelson Mandela died in prison in the eighties, even though he was still alive and released from prison in 1990. He actually did die in 2013. So if you remember that, that’s correct. – Or did he? – He did, yes. – Yes, our memories are very reliable at being very unreliable, even when it comes to, like, really iconic pieces of culture that we are positive we remember correctly. And there’s a new study that just dropped and the Mythical Crew has turned it into a game designed to blow our minds. So it’s time for, Are my memories correct or is it the Mandela Effect? After today, I might need my brain checked. – Okay, spoiler, we actually did do a Mandela effect based episode back in 2016. – See, see? – But that was mostly just, like, a general discussion about the idea of false memories shared by many people. Remember the good old days when we would just talk to each other on the show? – We could just talk to each other. – It was just, it was just more conversational. – Yeah, it was more conversational. – I mean, why don’t we, I mean why? What’s that? What happened? What happened to us? – Nobody wanna watch that. Boopity boop boop boop boop boop research! The Department of Psychology at the University of Chicago did a big first time study. You know those first time studies? – The first time. – You know, you get this sense when you’re doing a first time study that no one’s ever done it before. – This is the first time somebody’s done this. – On the Visual Mandela Effect to test popular iconography. – Yeah, yeah, yeah. – Iconography, iconography? – Yeah, yeah, I like the way you said it the first time. – Can’t even say how I said that the first- – Icons. – Icons. To see if they can consistently be misremembered by large numbers of people. – Yes, this is how it worked. They showed subjects three iconic images. For example, SpongeBob, people love SpongeBob. Now, one of these is the correct SpongeBob, which I think I know what my guess is, it’s A, right? – [Link] A, it’s A, with the tie, he has a tie. – [Rhett] He has a normal tie, right? – [Link] Not a bow tie. – [Stevie] Yeah, correct. – [Rhett] Hey, see? – [Link] Okay, good. – We don’t fall victim to this first time study. – But the results of the study showed that there are a good amount of hugely famous visual icons that people consistently and confidently misremember, even when the original design is right in front of ’em, like they’re gonna be for us, and you, right now. We have the actual images from the boopity boop and we’re gonna do ’em. Stevie, we’re ready. – We’re doing real science? – [Stevie] We’re doing real science today, boys, because just like in the study, two of the images you’re about to see have been slightly manipulated from the actual image. I need you to write down on your whiteboards which one you think is right and just- – People can play along, right? – No, no, no, no, they can’t. (crew members laugh) – Don’t. – No, no, no, you can’t play along. – [Stevie] So just like the participants in the study, you’re going to submit the level of confidence you have in your guess from one to five. So the number you write down will equal the number of points you’re wagering. – Oh gosh. – [Stevie] So you gotta think carefully about that. – Oh, shookie dookie dookie dookie dookie dookie dookie. – [Stevie] You ready for your first set of images? – Yes. – [Link] Oh, it’s the guy from Monopoly. – [Rhett] Oh my gosh. – [Link] What’s his name? Does he have a name? – [Stevie] Monopoly Man. – Edgar Sidney? Edgar Sidney. – Now, the only thing that is changing is the nature of his glasses. Did he have no glasses? Did he have glasses, or did he have a monocle? – No, Rhett, look at his taint. His crotch bulge is slightly altered. – Yeah, yeah, well, I’m- – I think he put his monocle down his pants in A. – I was already seeing that, I was already seeing that. – See, I just have to go with my gut, which I’ve learned to go with every single time. That’s what I’m gonna do. And I’m gonna give a confidence of… – I’m not too confident here. – I’m very confident. – You’re very confident? – Yep. – Okay, well, I’m not that confident, but when you said you were very confident, I went up a little bit. I went to a confidence level of three that it is the one with a monocle. – Dude, I have never played Monopoly, and with a 4% confidence, I know it’s A, he has no assistance with his eyesight. The dude’s, the dude has those little- – How do you know that having never played Monopoly? – Because all I’ve done with Monopoly is look at that guy. – [Stevie] So this just in, Monopoly man’s name is Rich Uncle Pennybags. – Pennybags? Pennybags. – [Stevie] And Rich Uncle Pennybags actually does not have any eyewear at all. – Yes! – [Stevie] But I will say, take a look at this graph. The most common false memory is what Rhett guessed, which is C with the monocle. – You’re getting him confused- – I’m become very confused. – With the peanut guy. – Well, this, you know, I’m very interested to see how this goes because you’re definitely more of a details guy. I don’t remember details. And so I think I’m going to more often fall into the, ’cause I don’t, listen, I don’t believe in the actual Mandela Effect that people think that we’re in a different timeline. I think that this is just bad memories and I think that the way that people get it wrong most often, and I’m just gonna go completely on instinct like I did, and see if I keep falling into the majority of wrongness. – Okay, or do you wanna just keep talking about it? – Yeah, yeah. – That would be a great episode. – Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what? Let’s quit playing the game. ‘Cause the games are the thing that makes the show not good. It’s when we just talk and just have a conversation like a podcast, you know? You know, if we had a podcast where we just talked, maybe that’s the answer. – [Stevie] I will say, for the majority of these, during my, you know, my prior to air private game time, which is what I like to call when I review things, I too was guessing like, what the majority misremembers. – Really? – [Stevie] It’s really crazy. – You’re a details person too. – [Stevie] I know. – See, I’m trying to get all these right. – [Stevie] Listen, it only gets better from here so check out this next one. – [Link] Starbuck. – [Rhett] Oh my gosh. – See, I feel like seeing them all at once makes it easier ’cause now I know the thing that I’m even supposed to be honing in on, or homing in on? – Is the Starbucks lady a fish? – [Link] Yeah, she’s a double tailed mermaid. – [Rhett] Is she a mermaid that is spreading her legs? – No, those aren’t legs, dude. – She’s a mermaid that’s got both of her legs up in the air like a crazy porn thing. – Mermaids don’t have legs. They’re fish on the bottom. – She’s got two tails and she’s spreading it for everybody. – She’s got a bifurcated tail. – That’s why she’s burning the coffee ’cause she’s too busy showing herself off (chuckles). – [Stevie] But here’s the thing, don’t you feel, you each feel fairly strongly about one thing? Like, yeah, “This must be, this is it, I think”? – No (laughs). – [Stevie] Really? – No. – [Stevie] I felt fairly strongly about this one and I was incorrect. – Once I started thinking about a mermaid spreading her fins for me, I got distracted. – I am not confident at all in my answer so I’m wagering one point. – Okay, I am not confident at all, but I am wagering five because I need to come back ’cause I still do wanna win. – So I think it’s C. If there were scales, I definitely would’ve remembered that. There’s no way it’s B. So I was between A and C and I’m going with C. – Yeah, and I went with A. I was thinking the same thing that you were, that it’s definitely not scales. – Oh, you took a risk. – [Stevie] Okay, the correct answer is A. – Yes! – [Stevie] But a lot of people misremembered it as C. – [Link] Oh. – The only reason I didn’t think it was C is because that would be bad graphic design to imply a circle but not have the substance of a circle. – Yeah, you’re right, you’re right. – Know what I’m saying? You gotta put that stuff on cups. – Right, Twinkle Fingy? You agree with that? – Twinkie was, I mean- – What’s going on down there between her bifurcated- – [Stevie] Okay, what about C3PO? – I think it’s just a gill. – [Stevie] This isn’t a logo, it’s a- – Oh crap, this is a actual person, well, droid. – [Rhett] If you get this wrong, you need to take a hike. You need to take a hike. Okay, well, let’s see. – And I do want to clarify that I need to keep trying because the winner of this gets a collage of portraits made by the Mythical Crew. They drew pictures of us from memory. – Oh, I thought it was gonna be the bottom of the Starbucks lady. (crew members laugh) So the only thing that changes is the right, our left, his right calf and down is a different metal. Is it silver or is it bronze or is he all gold? I had no idea this was even, like if you had’ve told me that he was a different color anywhere, which is why I would naturally pick A. – Well he’s been, he was rebuilt. Anakin rebuilt him, like repaired him, right? But then he’s really been through the ringer a number of times. He was, like, disembodied a lot. So he coulda had different color legs at different points. – Okay, I’m gonna go with, again, I’m trying not to play the game beyond the game. I’m going with my instinct answer with a relatively low confidence, go ahead. – I’m guessing it’s B. I do think one of the legs is different. There’s no way it’s C because you would’ve noticed that. My confidence is two. – I think you’re probably right. I went with A because I just don’t remember there being anything different. – So we’re both at confidence level of two. This makes me think that whenever I go into any sort of social situation, I’d like to lean over to the person I’m with and give them a confidence level in a number, just so they know. – About how confident you are to enter this party? – We’re going into this mixer and my confidence level is one. And then you know that, like, okay. But if I say my confidence level is eight, you’re like “Uh oh, watch out.” – Eight is not even on the scale. – Exactly, I’ve had it though, you’ve seen it. – Yeah, I have. – [Stevie] I thought you were gonna enter into a party and then tell the person next to you that C3PO’S leg is actually silver. – [Link] Is it? – [Stevie] Because that’s true. – Yes! – [Stevie] But not a very good like party fact, necessarily. – And why is that, Stevie? Why is his leg silver? – Because he used a different droid. – [Stevie] Because Anakin rebuilt him, right? (Link and crew members laugh) – Thanks for listening, thanks for listening – Yeah, ’cause he had, and the only other droids you see, isn’t there a completely silver C3PO in one of these other Star Wars iterations? – You’re thinking about Destro from “GI Joe.” – [Stevie] But the majority of people did remember him as A. – [Link] With nothing. – With nothing. You see, me and the majority people, we just don’t remember things like that. It was just all gold. – So you’re aligning yourself with the majority of people who don’t have a certain skill. So you’re saying “My weakness makes me normal.” – It’s not a weakness. – It’s a weakness. – Remembering things is a weakness? – Well, being detail oriented is a strength. So not having that, is that a weakness? – I think you need both. – Okay, good. With our powers combined, we’re both great. – We’re both great. – I like that shirt. – You know what else is great? MythiCon merch. Yes, we sold some stuff at MythiCon. – We’re basking in the everglow of MythiCon right now. – Tees, hoodies, koozies, tote bags, et cetera. But you know what? We’re now making it available to everyone who has an internet connection and can just go to mythical.com. – Get in on the action. – Very limited qualities, qualities (chuckles). Very high quality, very limited quantities. – The stuff we sell is very limited in quality. Buy it now, mythical.com. – That was just the Mandela effect in my brain. – Okay, way to go, Rhett. – [Stevie] Okay, speaking of clothing, how about this one? – [Rhett] Oh. – [Link] Fruit of the Loom. One of ’em, okay. One of ’em, there’s a plate. One of ’em, there’s a cornucopia. – All right, again, full, like it is so, I remember this so strongly, but now I have no confidence in it. But I’m gonna go with- – Would it be cheating if I looked at- – Oh, hey! Yes, it would be. – Well, it would be weird ’cause I’m not wearing a Fruit of the Loom. – I’m going with high confidence here even though I actually don’t have it. I’m just saying how strongly I remember this being the case. – All right, since you’re strong with it. – I went with cornucopia for five. – No, and you know what? I don’t think there’s anything back there, but I’m not too sure. C, 2, nothing. – [Stevie] This is, okay, I felt so strongly it was C, I mean, sorry, it was B and Link keeps getting these things right and Rhett, you keep, yeah, it’s not true. – Yeah, there- – [Stevie] C is the right one. – There has to be a cornucopia there. This is when I start believing in the Mandela Effect. – [Stevie] Yeah, exactly. – I was born on a timeline where there’s a cornucopia. – [Stevie] Look at this chart ’cause everyone else also thought it was B. – [Rhett] What is it? – [Stevie] Isn’t it so crazy? – ‘Cause you want it coming out of that cornucopia. – [Stevie] That’s insane. – Again, I just went with instinct, just like, “There’s no way it was just a plate of fruit. There’s no way it was just fruit.” – Yeah, but you would remember the cornucopia. – There was a guy dressed as a cornucopia in the commercial. – [Stevie] No, I’m telling you I strongly believed about the cornucopia. – And everybody came outta him. – [Stevie] We’ve made up the cornucopia. How do you make up a cornucopia? – I don’t know. – That’s the power of Thanksgiving. – Actually, I think it’s if you eat a lot of corn. – You know? – [Stevie] That must be it. Okay, here- – What even is a cornucopia? – This is diving right in to all of our expertise. – Anyone ever see one in action, like in real life? – [Stevie] Dora the Explorer. – [Rhett] Okay. Okay. – [Link] Okay, I see nothing, okay, spot. Okay, I see it. (crew members laugh) Took a while. – “I see nothing different.” – I mean, I was like, are her eyes gonna be wonky? What’s gonna be the deal? – Okay, I don’t have, I can’t say that I’m going off of real memory here, but I have seen, I am familiar with Dora. Wasn’t there a live action version? – [Stevie] Yeah. – Is that the only one you saw? You only watch Dora if she’s like a real human? – Who was Dora in that one? – [Stevie] Well, you know. – No one’s like, “Oh, it didn’t work out very well.” – [Stevie] I mean, do we even need to say her name? – Yeah, okay. – Oh gosh. – My confidence level at this point is just rooted in trying to get points, just so you know. How many rounds are there in this game? – [Stevie] There’s two more. – I’m changing my, see, I was about to change my answer for the first time, but I’m not gonna do that. I said I was gonna stick with my gut and I’m not even using that and I’m even gonna boost my confidence to a three. I was gonna change my answer to A with the star shirt, but I don’t think there’s anything on the shirt and I’m giving it a three. – I agree with you and I’m so confident I gave it a five. – Okay. – Nothing on the shirt. – I like that. – [Stevie] I joked about this being our expertise, but I guess it is ’cause it is B, nothing on the shirt. – Why would you think there’s something when theres nothing? – Well, I thought a cornucopia was there. – I guess, yeah, that’s what people do. – I remember her coming out of a cornucopia at the beginning of every episode. – [Stevie] Yeah, yeah. – It was the first thing she does. – [Stevie] Well, it turns out that the majority of people chose A so they did think, or a good chunk chose A, so they did think she had a star. – Looks like about 50.5%. – [Stevie] Yeah, exactly. – Mhm, exactly. – [Stevie] Okay, how about- – You’re back to zero, Rhett. – Good. – That’s something to be excited about. – [Stevie] Pikachu. – [Rhett] Oh, okay, this one goes around on the webs. – This is not fair for us because we’re too fogey for this. We’re too old fart for this. – I think I’ve only seen this, I think I’ve only seen Pikachu in the context of, like, the Mandela effect on TikTok. – So you know the answer to this from TikTok? – I don’t remember it, I don’t remember it, but I have full confidence in that. – Okay. With a confidence level almost off the charts, I know this has to be C with the ink dipped Pikachu tail. – B, five. – Oh man, you think it’s nothing. See, you’re playing into what we’ve learned. – [Stevie] Wow, you’re both incorrect, it was A. – [Rhett] What? – Really? What is that, it’s a turd stain on the base of his- – It looks like he got himself a little dirty when dookie-ing. – [Stevie] Yeah, that’s exactly what the inspiration was. – Pikachu doesn’t wipe. – Pika-poo (laughs) – [Stevie] But yeah, a lot of people misremembered Pikachu as option C with the black end to his tail. – Yeah, me, man, yeah. Brown is not even in, it’s not used anywhere else in his design. – Brown? – Why would you make that brown color right next to his butt? – I thought it was black. – No, black is everywhere else, it’s brown. It’s a totally different color. – [Rhett] Oh, you’re right. – It’s the color of poo. – It is the color of poo. (crew members laugh) What are they thinking over there at Pikachu headquarters? – You’re back in the neg. – Yeah, right. – And I’m in the pos. – I’m 10 down. – [Stevie] Okay, this is the last one so it all comes down to this, everything’s on the line. – And what’s the prize again? – [Stevie] And the prize is that you get what I think is a very beautiful collage sketch. – Oh, the collage. – [Stevie] By, I believe, the writers specifically. – Oh, the writers. – [Stevie] Images of you from memory. But also we have found what is actually in between Starbucks siren’s legs from the mermaid iteration. – No you didn’t. – The mermaid, the spreading mermaid? – [Stevie] Yes, yes. – You have a picture of the bottom? – [Stevie] Yes, but the winner gets to see it and the loser has to close their eyes. – Did Twinkle put that together that fast? – All right, now, is this real? ‘Cause I want it to be real. – [Stevie] This one is actually different than the other ones that I’ve showed you because this is one that we did in house that Twinkie Fingies manipulated, it’s the Mona Lisa. And we asked the Mythical Crew what they remember about Mona Lisa, so look at her facial expressions for this one. – [Link] Oh. – [Rhett] What? – So A is a slight frown, B is a slight smile, and C is even more of a smile. And the Mona Lisa’s smile is very famous. I mean, they call it a smile. – It’s funny when you see them in context, you naturally gravitate towards, well, it must be B because that’s kind of in the middle. You know, she wasn’t that happy and she wasn’t that sad. You know, that’s where my mind goes. – Right, right. – Now, there’s a 10 point differential. – Right, so I’m going full five point confidence. You definitely shouldn’t ’cause you guarantee a win, but you should probably do five just because. – I’m actually not gonna take gameplay into account even though I really wanna see down there. I’m gonna put my actual confidence level and just let the cards fall where they may, screw it. I am 100% confident that, and I’m changing my answer. – Okay. – I said I wasn’t gonna do it, but I did it. I changed my answer. – Okay. – I’m five confident that, that is a B, not a C. – I’m five confident that it is a C, that she has a smile. – [Stevie] Link. Why? Why? It’s C. – Yes, yes, yes! So that means we tied. – [Stevie] You literally were like, “The Mona Lisa’s smile. It’s what she’s known for. I’m gonna change my answer.” It’s C, yes, but- – So does that mean we tie? – [Stevie] You tie, but- – So we both have to close our eyes while Stevie describes what’s down there. Close your eyes. – We don’t get to see it? – [Stevie] I was gonna tell you that 23 out of the 29 crew members that voted did pick B, so most people did misremember it as B and then the six others chose C. So no one chose the frown of A. – It looks like more of a smile when you have the others. All right, so we’re gonna close our eyes. – [Stevie] Well, okay, so close your eyes and I’ll show everyone watching. – And just describe it to us. – [Stevie] I’d rather not. – You have to. – Oh my gosh. – What’s down there, Stevie? What’s down there? – She is showing her pineapples. – Are you looking at it? – No, no, no, no, I’m just imagining what it would look like. – Tell me what’s down there, Stevie. – Good lord, why would it… – [Stevie] Just some more scales, but there’s something up above that’s a little different than what we see usually. – There’s something above the scales? – [Stevie] And now we’ll take it away, but here’s the good news. I will allow you both to have your drawings, which are just really great. – Oh my gosh. – Me from memory and you from memory. – Might be hard to see, we’re gonna analyze these in “Good Mythical More.” Thanks for subscribing and clicking that bell. – You know what time it is. – I’m Lanaya. – I’m Elle. – [Both] And we’re dressed as Lydia and Beetlejuice at our homecoming. It’s raining, the camera woman is complaining. – [All] And it’s time to spin the Wheel of Mythicality. – Wow, the fact that they had to memorize that in the rain and then got it right. What take was that? I don’t know. – I hope it was one. – It was worth it. Click the top link to watch us guess the movie based on its first lines in “Good Mythical More.” – Ooh, and to find out where the Wheel of Mythicality’s gonna land. Did you miss the in person MythiCon experience? Well, we’re bringing it to you with limited edition MythiCon merch, available at Mythical.com.