GMMore 1630: Why Link Jumped Into His Dead Dog’s Grave (MORE)

(rooster crows) (lion roars) – Welcome to Good Mythical More. – It’s a little bit different today. There’s no wheel! – Yeah, we wanted to release the documentary, like we did today, and we will the next two days as a part of Good Mythical Morning because it was such a special endeavor for us in association with the novel being out. So we wanted to make sure that everyone had an opportunity to see it. Now, it premiered as part of Bleak Creek Conversations. – We showed a slightly different version that kind of worked a little bit better for the Bleak Creek Conversations at that, but we didn’t wanna keep that at just that very limited event, that was just a week’s worth of nights and there’s only so many people who could come to those places, so we we’re like hey, let’s put it on the channel, let everybody see it because the whole purpose of it is to, just like we said at the top of the first part today, is to show that connection between Buies Creek and our childhoods that led to the story that is in Bleak Creek. – Yeah, so as we said in the graveyard, we were talking about going to the river ’cause it was so hot. In a subsequent episode, well in the next two days, because we’re gonna have two more sessions, two more segments. – We’re gonna visit some of the places in Buies Creek. – Of the documentary, including the river. – Including the river, and some things that happened at the river. – Yeah, so you wanna throw stuff at each other’s nuts for the More? I don’t know, do you feel inspired having done that? – I feel like in watching that back, I feel like there was a moment. Like, I don’t feel like you really dealt with the fact that you jumped into your dog’s grave. You, I feel like we need to go deeper. I feel like we need to talk about that even more, as if it wasn’t already awkward enough because by the way, that picture that you, we showed there. I took the picture. – As if me walking around my house and just speaking aimlessly wasn’t awkward enough, I had to talk about- – Well, in seeing the picture. – The whole Tucker thing. – That I remember taking that picture in your backyard of you, like in that pose, seeing where the mud came up to on your legs made me remember that. – It wasn’t as deep. – We buried that dog pretty shallow. – Yeah. (laughs) It wasn’t as deep as I remember in my brain. In my memory, it was like oh, I was probably mid-thigh. – No, it was just like mid-calf, it was mid-calf at best. – But I guess, why do we have pictures of that? I mean why, is that? No, that’s not the type of thing any normal person does. – We took pictures of a lot, we took pictures of a lot of things. – But it’s also not a normal thing that then you would document with a wind and shoot camera. – You gotta remember back in those days. – We did that a lot. – In the 90s, before you had to worry about people getting access to your photo stream, the only thing you had to worry about was what the dude at the drug store would think about developing your pictures, right? – Right. – And so, it’s like, okay, there’s one person who’s going to see, and he’s just gonna see a couple of boys with some mud on their legs. He doesn’t know there’s a dead dog in that hole. – And I looked and looked and I did not find a picture of you, so I think you probably knew. – Smart. – I ain’t going, I don’t want the guy at Revco to see. – Revco. – To see me. – Is Revco still a thing? – Yeah, Revco’s a thing man. – What does Revco stand for? – Revco’s not out here though. – [Ellie] I don’t know what that is. – Did you not have Revco in Greensboro? – [Ellie] I don’t think so. – Like a Rite Aid. It’s a drug store, it’s like a Walgreens, a Rite Aid, a Revco. – CVS Pharmacy. – Oh, yeah, sold to CVS. Yeah, we did not have a. – They sold to CVS. – They sold out. – Revco in back in the day. – You said Revco recently when you were explaining something in a meeting here. When you were like, you know, like a Revco or something, I was like no one knows what you’re talking about. What are you? – You didn’t say that, you didn’t say anything, you just let me go on. – If I stopped you every single time you said something that made me think what is he talking about? You wouldn’t get a lot out. (both laugh) – [Ellie] Oh my gosh, it has a really dark history actually. – Oh, Revco? – Oh, Revco? – What’s the history of Revco? – [Ellie] So it was founded in 1956, and then it was growing, growing, growing. – They were doing great. – And then, in 1983. – Some history. – [Ellie] This is really f-ed up, guys. Its vitamins were blamed for the deaths of a number of premature infants, and then the guy who was running it panicked. – So like, prenatal vitamins? – [Ellie] And then sold the company or, I’m trying to summarize as I’m reading for the first time, it’s not really working out, but I told you it was dark. And then basically, it just doesn’t exist anymore. – Wow, bad vitamins huh? It’ll take you down every time. – [Ellie] Oh no, not CVS. It says 1996. – It’s Revco. – Rite Aid. – Rite Aid. – Rite Aid bought Revco. – [Ellie] Oh wait! – And became. – No, no, no, twists and turns here. And so 1996, they were talking to Rite Aid, they were like Rite Aid, buy us, then 1997, CVS came in, they were like ah. – Swooped in. – That’s gonna be ours. – Rite Aid got played. – Boy, that’s a screenplay waiting to not happen. (Rhett laughs) – The Revco diaries. (both laugh) – [Ellie] Wait, hold on, then CVS sold Revco to, do you remember Eckerd? – Yes! – Eckerd, that’s the one I was trying to remember. – [Ellie] Yes, I do remember Eckerd, yes. – Eckerd drugs. – Eckerd, Eckerds. – Yes. – Eckerd drugs. Yeah, so anyway. – Man. So few standing. – But we would have, I mean, we’re like, we would have a camera around, but we also had a video camera. – Yeah. – But we didn’t video a lot of stuff, we would just take snapshots of things. Like that miraculous moment of jumping in a dog’s grave. – Well, and Tucker was the focus of a lot of the stuff that we, well, a lot of things we created. So in the book, in chapter one, no spoilers here ’cause it’s just chapter one, the boys are making their movie, their horror movie called Polterdog starring Tucker, and that was a shout out to our first screenplay ever, which we read at some point on the show, Gutless Wonders. And Tucker plays a very pivotal role in Gutless Wonders as well, but it’s a little less clever than a ghost dog, it’s just a dog who can speak. – Talks and wears clothes. – And is basically a human. – But the joke was, and I think this was the only well executed joke in Gutless Wonders that I can recall. – There was a few. – Was that Tucker could speak but it wasn’t acknowledged, that was a good joke. – Oh, it’s kinda like Family Guy then. – I guess so. Well Family Guy didn’t exist. – Right, yeah. – Maybe MacFarlane- – MacFarlane got a hold of our script. (laughs) – Yeah, he did. We gotta take something up with him. Is he still on that Star Trek show? Anyway, that Star Trek rip off show? FarmVille, what’s it called? – [Crew] The Orville. – Orville. – FarmVille is a different thing. – Is FarmVille still a thing? – So, the jumping in the dog’s grave, it does seem morbid, but I don’t really, I don’t think we actually made any, you didn’t make any contact with the dog, and it was a locked box, it was a refrigerator box, there was a lot of space, there was a lot of air, and that’s why for many years, it was very easy to see where Tucker was buried because eventually, the box collapsed, and there was just. – Right, that was the divot I was talking about. – A box sized divot that you kinda had to look out, but you think it just filled in over time like a scar? – I think someone might have smoothed it out and reseeded at some point, yeah. – The grass grew very well in that area. – My mom owned that house up until very recently, and then she rented it out, but then she didn’t wanna have to deal with the management of the property and she sold it. And then they said we could come film there, but we didn’t, they didn’t want us to go inside. – But there, weren’t people at home at the time you were there? – That’s why we didn’t go in. Yeah, the dude’s parents were there, and even though there was no cars there, I think they were inside because I went, I opened the door. I don’t know, I just went up to the door and it was an old familiar feeling, it’s like there’s the doorknob. I remember grabbing this doorknob and turning it and going in this house every day, ’cause it was my house. So I did that, but I- – But you don’t get the right to go into a house forever just because you once lived there. – Especially when you ask them if you could film there. – That’s not how houses work. – And they said well, you can film outside but don’t come inside. – But don’t come inside. Okay. – I didn’t go in, I opened the door and then I realized, why am I doing this? And I shut the door and I think I heard people in there. – We also. – So I did that. – We didn’t put this in the final cut of the documentary, but we also went into my attic at my house. – That’s right. – Because, so, we discovered something, and the interesting thing is Jake, who lives in my parents’ house now. – The bearded guy? Well, it’s his house now. – In my parents’ old house. He hasn’t removed the McLaughlin brick though, so I think, brick is like 50% ownership. – You think he’s selling, you think he’s telling people that you used to live there? – No, I don’t think that. We’re telling people that. What I was gonna say is that when my dad contacted him to say hey, Rhett wants to come back and go, and Jake is familiar with what we do, and he’s like sure, no problem. And he was like also, Rhett and Link carved their names into the attic, if you wanna, he was like, if you wanna cut it out and take it with you. – But he didn’t say Rhett and Link to us, ’cause we are Rhett and Link. – He said it to my dad. – He said it to your dad. – Yeah. And so. – We didn’t. – Well, inside the attic, there’s this foam insulation, but it’s not like the old school, it’s like foam that you can kinda run your finger through and write in. – It’s like a styrofoam board. – And the Stillermans, who, I don’t know if you remember the twins, the Stillermans, they lived there before me. And so there’s, that would be late 70s, early 80s, and they had put a baseball card collection up on the styrofoam, and then put marker all around it to say what it is. So it says like, 1979, so and so player card or whatever. They had all their cards organized, and of course, then they took all their cards, so then there was just kind of the skeleton of, so I would go in there and kinda look at that as a child and just be fascinated at the remnants of a baseball card collection. But then one time I was like, I’m gonna carve my name in this thing, and so we found it, it says Rhett 90, 1990, is that what it said? I can’t remember, it’s like. – [Ellie] Like 93, I mean, I don’t remember, but- – It was right around the same time. – Yeah, yeah. – It was pretty cool that we found it ’cause it was right around the same time, but then we found your name. And it said like, Link 67, because you thought that that would be cool to throw people off. – Or I was a time traveler. – Yeah, right. – It’s a time travel joke in the least. – Yeah, yeah. – At the most. – Because we were big fans of Quantum Leap at the time. – I was a time traveler. – Scott Bakula, who we have a standing invitation to come on the show. He hasn’t responded. But Jake offered that we could cut that out of the foam, and we didn’t. – We don’t want it. – I think it should stay in the homestead. – And then in our, it reminds me that in our college dorm room, we did a similar thing in the closet, like if you go in the closet and go back that way, when we moved out, we decided to write a thing there. And at one point, we went back there to see if that was still there. And was it? – No, they had painted over it. But also, in the college apartment that we lived in, I went into the room that just has the air conditioning unit in there. – Yeah. – And on the side of the air conditioning unit, I wrote f the police. – And you’re serious? – Yeah. – Yeah, you spelled it out too I b-b-bet. – I did, I b-b-bet. Yeah, yeah, I put all four letters of f. Yeah. – Okay. That’s a teaser for- – ‘Cause I thought that was funny, but we. – Well, what happens tomorrow? On tomorrows episode of the documentary? – That’s right, Link. – They’ve got, that happens. I get it, basically, you’ll see another instance. – I like to write on things. – Rhett would go around places and just deface them with his finger like a knife or something, you were a carver. – Yeah, I’m a carver, that’s what they call me. – You were a tainter. What’s it called when you taint things? – Can we have a different word? – Like a tagger. That’s what I was trying to. – Yeah, yeah. – You’re like a finger tagger. – I’m a finger tagger. – Use your finger to tag. – Doesn’t sound any better. – He finger tagged what you’re gonna see tomorrow. And it. (laughs) So, come back tomorrow and watch that, and then the next day, and if it’s later than today, then it’s already out and you can watch it right now. And also, in a recent episode of Ear Biscuits, we read excerpts from the novel. Show ’em the novel again, I wanna keep showing. – There it is, look at it. – And we talked about, so if you’re interested- – Got our picture in it. – In more about us talking about the specifics of the novel, that happens on Ear Biscuits. – Yes. – And we wanna invite you to be a part of the conversation, we want you to talk to us and each other about the experience of reading the novel. I mean, we’re very excited to hear about your experiences and how it hits, how it strikes you. So I know on the Mythical Society, there’s gonna be discussions if you’re a member there, you can connect with other Mythical Beasts and talk about the novel on the Discord. I think Goodreads offers discussion. – Yeah, there’s discussion groups. – I don’t know if that’s happening with Bleak Creek, you can check it out. – And it’s easy to set up a Goodreads account. Obviously, we could always use a review over there at Goodreads. And then in about a month or so, we’re going to have an episode of Ear Biscuits where we, basically a book club episode where we discuss things. So ask us questions on Twitter with #bleakcreek, and we’ll gather those up and we’ll talk about ’em on Ear Biscuits. – All right, so we’ll see you tomorrow with installment two of the documentary. – [Ellie] Make sure to grab your copy of The Lost Causes of Bleak Creek at bleakcreek.com and wherever books are sold.

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