Welcome to Good Mythical More. It’s time to play our version of Am I the A-hole? Oh, we’re gonna just say jerk. Am I the butt hole? Am I the jerk? With a couple of choice crew members. We decide who’s the jerk. But first, we’re going to donate $1,000 to the National Immigration Law Center to aid in their mission to defend and advance the rights and opportunities of low income immigrants and their family members. You can join us in donating at NILC.org/donate. Thank you for being your Mythical best. Come on in here, guys. Chase, Emily, and first time in a Good Mythical More, it’s Hitch. Gotta be nice to Hitch, ’cause Hitch edits. Yeah. And my favorite people are editors. Oh, that’s convenient. That’s good. You know. What? Seems like a jerk It feels patronizing. And writers and producers. Yeah! It feels patronizing. Come, come on, scooch, scoochy, scoochy. Even, even a little bit more. No, come on, come on, come on, come on. Am I being a jerk right now? No! Am I being a jerk? Jerk is not really the correct word. But if you kept, if you ask one more time, yes Yeah. Twice is slightly annoying. Three times, that would be a jerk. No, if you put I said scoot up. But this isn’t about you. This is about them Right. Yeah. And whether or not you’re a jerk. I think you’re all relatively nice people, just in person. Thanks, Rhett. I mean I’ll start there by saying that I don’t think I’ve ever had an interaction with any of you where I would’ve said, “Boy, they’re a butt hole.” Why would we do that in front of you though? Right. Sometimes, some people some people can’t help it. Put our jobs in jeopardy. Yeah. Some people can’t help it. That’s true. We don’t, I guess we have a no jerk policy. So if we decide A no jerk policy? No, we do not have a no jerk policy here. Come on, Rhett. Whatever you wanna do on your own time is what I’m saying. Just don’t be jerks here at the office. You know what I’m saying? But how do we know what is being a jerk? We’ll decide right now. Yes. Yeah Chase, Let’s hear your story first. Okay. So for me it’s, am I the jerk for messing with jerks? Specifically like on the road. Because I’ve been known to get a little road rage from time to time. It’s hard to imagine. I think it’s because, you know, I grew up in LA. I learned how to drive here. And so like, I immediately started driving with a bunch of jerks. And so certain things would start making me upset. Like what? Well, okay, I’m not gonna’ interrupt, sorry. If there’s someone behind me who I can tell is like cutting people off and it’s like causing an issue. Like if they’re just kind of like darting through and like it’s not much of an issue and they’re not really like skirting laws. It’s, I’m okay with it for the most part. Skirting laws? It wont make me upset. But like if someone, we’re all in a red light and then someone gets into the right hand on red turn lane. Ooh. And then just like sits there and waits to then like speed up ahead and get in front of everyone else Ooh Like that, that makes me mad. And like, if someone’s like clearly cutting people off and not using like their turn signal and stuff like that makes me mad. So, what do you do? I will, like, if there’s two lanes both going in the same direction, I’ll like, make it look like there’s gonna be a little bit of a space. So they’ll get like right behind me and on my tail. and then I’ll like slow down a little bit so I’m like even with the other person. And like mess with them and then I’ll like go slower. So then they like get in the other lane, and then I’ll speed up. And I just like kind of psychologically torture them for about a minute before I’ll eventually like, let them go. Or like, I won’t do a full brake check but I’ll do like pretty much a brake check. Oh wow, okay. The one pedal driving where I’m just like, oh I’ll just let go for a minute. And then like go back on if like they’re really riding my tail and being, if they’re being a jerk and it’s really like messing with people, then I’ll be a jerk to them. And usually, the other fun thing is like, I can look around and like, other people who are on the road with us are like kind of looking. They’re encouraging you. Yeah, yeah. They’re encouraging you And they’re like excited ’cause like we all know that one person was the jerk and I’m just kind of being like a Robin Hood of the road, in my mind. Well, okay, before we get to whether or not this is a jerky behavior. I mean, I will say this is risky behavior. I like that risky business. A lot of times these folks who are willing to drive in such a way Yeah. Are also willing to be the ones that will escalate things in a road rage situation and like chase you down. That happens. It happens. That happened to me when I was like 17. See, there you go. The first time I did this that there was these guys and I did that to them ’cause they were being jerks. And then they chased me for about a mile. And I drove to the closest like, just well lit strip mall and went into the parking lot and they were, didn’t follow me into the parking lot. But it was very scary. And I didn’t learn my lesson. Yeah, okay. Well Lincoln, you got any thoughts on this? Yeah, I will say I don’t think you should do this for your own safety. I’ve never done it to you. Don’t target the people who, what are you saying? That I’m the jerk? I think I’ve heard you say that like, sometimes you drive a little jerkily. Yeah, I do this all the time, yeah. Yeah, I was kind of scared to tell this story. No, I slot in. I slot in and I slot out. But I do it legally. I don’t get in the wrong, I don’t get in illegal lanes just to cut people off. But you are a last minute Merger. get over to the exit. Oh yeah, oh yeah. ‘Cause we have a similar drive home. And I saw you yesterday. Yeah, I, did I cut you off? You cut off the person in front of me. Yeah, I was like, I’m not gonna cut off Stevie. But I see that little gap. I’m gonna’ cut off the person in front of Stevie. Well, okay now. Yeah, so I’m staying out of this, and don’t mess with me Chase. Okay, well, let’s talk about that. Let’s talk about that specifically. Because all three of us actually have a similar route. At least in one part of our way home. Right? I know exactly what you’re talking about. And in Links defense because I’m defending myself here. And I think, also Chase if you go this way because all of us drive EVs we are in that far left lane before that merge. And it’s almost impossible to not be late over to that merge if you’re over there in that far left lane. So I find myself in that situation late, almost every day. But, and I don’t like being that guy. But the question I have for you, Chase Mhm. is that when you’re already there and you see somebody doing the last minute merge, are you the, “oh no, un-uh, un-uh,” and like, speed up. Or are you the, “okay, whatever, you can go ahead and get in. Let’s not cause a scene.” Like which one are you? Cause it sounds like you’re the not let the guy in. No, no, no. If like, I can tell somebody like, one was like needing to do one of those crazy LA like got change over two to three freeways thing. Like, yeah, go ahead. You need to do that. But like, if there’s a clear, like you get a few different signs of like 134 is coming up. 134 is coming up. 134 is coming up. And I see that person who’s like not in the like the trafficy lane and they’re waiting till the end. And then they try to go it over at the very last minute. Like, I’m not gonna leave a gap. If I if I’m gonna make sure there Yeah, don’t leave the gap. there isn’t a gap there for you to like jump in. But if they- Somebody will though. And I will take that gap. Yeah, I’m happy if it’s the guy behind me. You’re not the jerk. You’re just The enforcement. Not being safe enough. I don’t think you need to be passive aggressive. You’re being a- to people who are aggressive I started in this company early enough that like, I sometimes have dreams where like, you guys are my Dads. And my Dad does say the same thing to me all the time. He’s very clearly that- Chase, it’s not safe. You’re not being safe, dude. We love you, Chase. It’s not safe. I love you, Chase. Chase, you’re not being safe. Give us, give us your story. Okay. So. I was on a flight, and it was about a four and a half hour flight and I got an aisle seat, early on. Later, a mom and two kids walk up. They’re late, super late. Mm. Don’t let ’em in. How old is the kid? Roughly? So there’s a boy, he’s probably eight or nine. The girl is younger, like six-ish. So, Okay. Of course she’s late. So the mom is like running in, stressed. She looks frantic. She turns to a flight attendant is talking to the flight attendant. There’s only middle seats open. Mhm. So, a flight attendant comes up to me and says, would you be willing to switch seats with this mom so that she can sit by her son? Mind you, her son is behind me in a middle seat. She’s in front of me in a middle seat. The daughter is by herself in a middle seat, like further away. Middle, middle, middle. And she’s the youngest, but she wants to sit close to her son, which I didn’t understand. But she also wanted to sit in the aisle seat in front of her son. They didn’t ask the guy that was directly next to her son. So it didn’t make sense to me in the first place. Hmm. And I said no. Oh oh oh! Hitch! Sorry. Okay. I don’t understand why they can’t just put ’em in the overhead compartment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That or, I dunno. Problem solved. There’s family boarding there’s alternatives. Emily, you’re the jerk. I am. This is exactly why I don’t drive, and I don’t have kids. There’s alternatives. I don’t drive and I don’t have kids. There’s alternatives, like family hitchhiking. Sure. Not to throw your name into this Drive there. This is a tough one. You know, as a father, and knowing how frustrating it can be to travel with children. Well, and I’m also thinking about my wife in particular, who you know, is more attentive than I am. And like, will and also just will like see, oh there’s a mom or a parent with kids and I can tell that she’s at the end of her rope. And Jessie sometimes, not to put you on the spot Hitch. I would never do this, but Jessie will be like, can I help you with anything? Like Jessie will, because she was like, I remember being that mom. So compared to my wife, you’re a jerk. I have a counter. I have empathy. I do have some empathy, okay. So, I totally, I get it. I would have, if her son was right next to me. It wasn’t a logical situation. Correct. It was like not. Yeah, that would’ve been an easy choice. Correct. But it was like, ah, I would’ve, no-brainer. Take my seat. The mom wasn’t next to you? The mom was in front of me. They would’ve still been in a different row. And the son was behind me. So yeah. So they still been separated I don’t know why did they single you out versus like, I think I had it written on my face. Get rid of the person next to her. ask me to move. Oh I think I’m approachable. So maybe I’m not a jerk. Okay, right. You could have said could you explain the logic behind this request? I think they should have opened it, the request, up to more people. Correct, yes. So that someone could have stepped up and then if no one did, then you’re all jerks. But also as, as a mom on like You were the jerk the edge of patience. Wouldn’t you want to sit away from your kids on a flight? Good point Stevie. That is a good point Good point, yeah. No one in this conversation except us has kids. True. It gets real complicated. and you would like to sit away from your kids a flight too, wouldn’t you? I’ll tell you, it gets real complicated. It gets real complicated. There’s no winners. There’s no winners. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody’s a jerk. She’s a jerk for having kids. Right. And traveling with ’em. You’re a jerk for not giving up your seat. Really, yeah, you shouldn’t bring ’em on a plane. The flight attendant’s a jerk for singling you out. Yeah. Yeah. Like, everybody’s a jerk here. Everyone. Yeah. Emily, please make this, this better. All right, I’m gonna try. I had a boyfriend once, three months of dating and my birthday came up within the first three months of the dating. Ooh. And I will say that I’m hard to get gifts for, I am. ‘Cause I just buy exactly what I want. I don’t expect people to get it for me. Okay. Because then I’ll be waiting forever. But, so this particular guy, I knew he he didn’t have a lot of money, which is, that’s okay. I say be thoughtful. You don’t have to like, get me a big thing. You can write me a sweet note. You can, you know, Sweet note, take me to get, you know, dinner or a movie or something. He got me this it’s clearly from Goodwill and it was a jewelry box that had a packaging tape stain on it. Like, so the tape was on there too long and it had a coating. Shabby chic. Yeah And then he got me a pair of clip on earrings. Okay, okay. Was this middle school? Un-uh. This was 2019. Oh! And so I’m like, Red flag Hard times. What a strange I know. And the sweet thing is that the clip on earrings were supposed to match my knife necklace. So they had like, they were mother of pearl kind of. But, so that means I’m gonna have to go to a jeweler, get them made into Right. pierced earrings. So now I just have an errand with your gift. Yeah, yeah, you gave me a- And I’m not- So, You sound like a jerk. I went ahead and gave these things to Goodwill. I gave them back. Did you ask him which one he got it from so you could No, I just What did you, what was your reaction? Because that’s kind of the jerky part. I went, this is really, this is really thoughtful. I just said, oh, it matches. He goes, it matches your necklace. I’m like, oh, you noticed that I have a necklace. Okay, and how soon- You found something that is the same color. Right, how soon thereafter did the relationship end? Two years. So then you’re definitely not the jerk in my mind. Yeah, it’s, the gifts are not important, but I just I gave it back to Goodwill. Two years. Am I the jerk for just going, I’m not gonna use these things. It’s not a jerk for not utilizing a gift. I think if you would’ve said, if you would’ve told him how crappy the gifts were. Well, he did notice that I never wore the earrings and that the box was gone. So I had to tell him. How long was that? I’d say a solid six months Okay, six months. He kept waiting and waiting. Well, he kept being like, you never wear those earrings. And I’m like, because I have holes in my ears. What am I pinching my ears for when I put a hole through it? But you didn’t. Now did you say that? ‘Cause that’s the jerk. I did, no, I didn’t say it that way. I was like, I simply cannot wear them. I don’t think you’re a jerk for that Yeah Like, you know, I don’t know. I don’t think rejecting, I don’t think re- I mean, you know, right. I think ultimately rejecting a gift as long as it’s not done like, if somebody gets you a gift right in front of you and you like, crap on it, like, right in front of them or like, right in front of family or whatever. Right. Okay, maybe you’re a jerk. Yeah. But like, you don’t, there’s no obligation to utilize a gift. Yeah, I agree. And then re-gifting. Oh yeah. I believe in that too. But it just felt like because it’s your significant other and then they don’t see you using it and then you have to tell ’em that you gave it to Goodwill. But, you did it in a sheepish way. Yeah, I just went, I’m sorry, I just am never gonna use this. Now, the most recent guy I dated he got me an eBay gift card and it’s like, you get it. You get it. That’s exactly right. EBay gift card. How many, so if the sucky gift buys you three years, how much does the eBay gift card buy you in relationships? About six months. About six months. He didn’t stick around long enough. Oh, hmm. We’re better as friends So you, so you I just date guys for eBay gift cards. Right, right. At this point Now, before we determine, I don’t think any of you are necessarily a jerk here, but we have to determine which one of the three was the, is the biggest jerk. Just for, to have something to look forward to. Before we do, let’s promote the LTAT special. Yeah. Last week did you hear about this? We released a special I did. on the Mythical Society. It’s LTAT came back for an amazing episode. All types of stuff were happening. There was a musical performance. There was also a segment where there was a transformation that took place that you have to see to believe. It was fun. I don’t believe it still. Yeah This is available for first, second, and third degree. Okay? So you’ve just gotta’ be a paying member of the Mythical Society. How long is this special Stevie? It’s about an hour. And then there’s a bunch of different extras too. Dang. Ooh. Yeah. I love that. Come on now, come on now. There’s a lot to it. Sign up and watch at mythicalsociety.com. And if you sign up to get the vinyl, the My Hair vinyl over there, you can watch this too. So get a load of it. Get a load of it. All right jerks, listen up. I’ve already said the Hitch is a jerk, but so is everyone else in the story. Okay, so Hitch is the biggest jerk. That’s how we’re rewarding her first appearance on Good Mythical More. Yep. Bravo. At least you didn’t have to eat anything nasty. And who’s the- I guess. That’s true. Jerk pie. Who’s the least jerk? I think it might be Chase, because at least it’s like a vigilante kind of thing. No, I think Emily’s the least jerk. Vigilante jerk. Because I didn’t hear her say or do anything that made me think she was a jerk. She just didn’t like a crappy gift. I’m just, the only reason I’m saying Chase is the less of the, least of the three jerks Chase is matching jerk with jerk. He’s like a superhero though. He’s like a superhero. I don’t wanna’ reward his actions anyway, ’cause I don’t want to encourage it as one of his fathers. Yeah, you, Chase, One of his dream fathers. Chase, you gotta be more careful. Chase, you wanna’ teach me how to drive? Yeah, I can teach you how to drive. We’ll die together. It’s gonna be bad. You want me to teach you how to cut somebody off? I can teach you that. You sure can. Taught Stevie yesterday. Let’s Talk About That is back for a one time only special. Join first, second or third degree to watch now at mythicalsociety.com.