GMMore 3106: Will These Products Really Last Forever?

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Channel: Good Mythical More

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Episode Number: 3106

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Will this last forever?
Welcome to Good Mythical More.
There's a lot of products out there
that are, quote unquote, B-I-F-L.
BIFL?
Buy it for life.
Buy it for life.
I'm not really … I mean,
I understand the concept.
I think I've played into it.
We both have brought items that fit
this criteria, and I've thought about
it in general that way, but I didn't
know about the BIFL, um, nomenclature.
And of course, there's
a- Yeah … subreddit.
Where people like to analyze
and agree or disagree about
what, if a particular product is
actually buy it for life or not.
And let's start with w- what I
held up, which is an Away suitcase.
Now, let me just say, this is not mine.
Mm-hmm.
This is, uh, my oldest son's, which is
why there's a giant dent in the top.
Wow.
And a giant … Well, a
medium-sized dent right here.
Uh-huh.
And also, uh, one of the zippers, the
zipper handle … Well, something's
happened in here where this got jammed
down there, but this zipper handle
doesn't have a handle, so you have to
use this zipper and zip it all the way
to right there- Okay … to zip it up.
Now, I, our whole family has Away bags.
Not a sponsor.
There's some contention on the subreddit.
Let me just say that.
I'll … Let me read
what people are saying.
Now, first of all, their lifetime
care coverage includes complimentary
repair services, free repairs for
functional damage to your suitcase
due to manufacturing defects or
the unpredictability of travel,
like a airline mishandling.
Free round-trip shipping for luggage
repairs and replacements, and then one
luggage replacement within the first
five years under our limited warranty if
we're unable to repair functional damage.
I had this happen Repair support
continues for life of your suitcase and
remains complimentary in Away stores.
Right.
I had an Away suitcase that I'd had
for, I thought I'd had it for more
than five years, and we s- sent
it to them because one of, one of
the zippers was kind of messed up,
and it was just kind of beat up.
You know what I'm saying?
But it was still completely functional,
and the thing that I've noticed about
the Away suitcases is that we've had
probably eight of these in our family.
Never once have I dealt
with a wheel problem.
Yeah.
And, and we have beat these things.
I, we, we have a bunch of these, too.
I actually had a zipper
issue and sent it in.
They sent me a new one.
Yeah.
D- and so- Same thing … you, you,
you're gonna send that one in now?
We're, we're gonna send this one in.
Now, I had to find the receipt.
Yeah.
And then I actually don't think I
found the receipt for the right one.
I found receipts for other ones.
And it still worked?
But they g- were lenient about it,
so they were good sports about it.
So we've tried a couple other
brands of suitcases 'cause the
only thing I don't like about
these suitcases- Put it up here.
I'll tell you what I don't
like … is the slidey.
The slidey?
So when y- so when you have two of these,
like if … or, or three or four if you're
traveling as a family, and you all put
your suitcases on top of each other in
the back of a car, there's no friction.
Oh, yeah.
They slide on each other.
But it can- That might be an advantage
it can help if you do like this.
It hasn't been that big of a problem,
but- You put them up that way … uh,
we've tried a couple other brands,
and the things that ends up happening
The wheels, like I don't understand
how they make these wheels so sturdy.
But people don't seem to agree because
this one person said, "My Away carry-on
is doing well after five or so years.
Average 25 trips a year.
My zipper pull was ripped off
my checked Away bag on one trip.
The Away warranty was
quick and easy to use.
They had a new bag out
to me in a few days.
Zipper still worked, it was just missing
the little pull tab." I was surprised
they replaced the whole bag, which
is what has happened to both of us.
Right.
But then this other dude comes in and
says, "Away is all marketing, not a
BIFL product. They've calculated the
replacements into their quality and
price. Keep asking for replacements,
but also in your messaging to tell them
how wasteful this is." Well… Okay.
Well, maybe that is proven right.
The thing I don't like about- Because
we did, we did get a new suitcase
that suitcase is that you have
to open everything, you have to
open it up and clamshell open
it entirely to get to anything.
Like, I always pack and then I got it
by the door and then I remember I've
got one more thing I wanna put in there,
and if you unzip it a little bit, it's
really hard to shove anything in there.
And, and if you unzip the wrong side.
You have to open it all the way and
then, and then when you open it,
if you haven't secured something,
you're, you're in a heap of trouble.
So what is your alternative?
Something with- I- … a
bag with zippers and stuff?
I got a, um, yeah, I got- BIFL?
I got a carry-on in Japan that has
multiple ways to get into it, but
I don't know if it's a BIFL or not.
Okay.
This, this is the BIFL that I
brought in, my Red Wing boots.
What year did we go to
Australia for our tour?
2017, 2018? 2018. 2018. 2018? 2018.
That's when I bought these, and,
uh, it's very difficult to find
negative reviews of Red Wings.
The overall assessment is that they're
a great BIFL product, even though
there is no lifetime guarantee.
Um- You have to pay to get 'em repaired
… they're, you know, they're expensive, but
they're … The thing with clothes that
you buy for life is that- Y- you want
something that's going to be fashionable.
It's gonna stay in style.
And I really feel like these
have stood the test of time.
You can still find these in all the
stores that have, that I, I feel like
have all the stuff that I'm still buying.
So it feels good when I go in
there and it's like, all right,
yeah, they're still selling those.
Because- And you've never done anything
to the soles … they look at… No.
Actually- Y- you have?
Yes, I have.
Oh, you re- repaired them.
Last year I sent them in
and they replaced the sole.
Now, what is that right there?
I don't know.
Um, Mikayla, maybe you can guess.
What is that?
Dookie.
Um,
but yeah, you can see that I've
got the complete so- I mean, I
replaced, they replaced the soles.
So they were worn- And I paid like
100- Worn thin … $150 for that.
You're not really wearing these anymore.
He, they replaced the inside too.
When, when do you wear these now?
Uh, winter.
Winter.
It's a winter shoe.
Oh, I still wear them.
They mold to your foot,
but I, I gotta be honest.
As much as I love them-
Uh-oh … they're super heavy.
Super heavy.
And you've been working on your vertical.
And they're not-
They're not the, um, they're still
not the most comfortable shoe after
having them for almost a decade.
Something about it, my foot didn't mold
in a way that, like, I'm addicted to them.
Sometimes foot shape- But they've
been my f- … matters about what
shoe is really comfortable for you.
My fa- Yeah, it's like, um, I think
it's a little too narrow for me.
But- Do you remember how
much you paid for them?
They're still special to me.
Well- Australian dollars … I
bought them in Australian dollars.
I probably paid $350 for them.
Wow.
roughly.
So then you had to send them
in to get repaired for what?
$150, $200? Hun- $150.
Yeah.
So you spent like $500
and you don't love them?
But that was, that was
after … I really like them.
Okay.
He really likes them.
He just doesn't love them.
At the same time I bought that jacket,
I, I j- This is an honorable mention.
The same day I bought this jacket-
I remember that 'cause it was a lot
colder- And it was so, it was so
much colder than we thought it was
gonna be … in Australia, yeah.
I mean, Montane is the brand.
I don't … To me, this isn't about
the brand as much as, like, having a
compressible jacket like this, this
has been probably the most uti- utili-
utilized piece of clothing I have.
Everybody needs one of those.
And it's one of … It's not a big one.
It goes under, like, when I … Everywhere
I go and I think it might be cold, I
take this and it becomes an underlayer.
Like, if I, if I wanted to wear this
jacket 'cause I like it, like when I
went to Japan, I would have jackets
that I like to wear that look good.
I would wear this underneath it.
This i- this is my favorite.
I would've paid, I would've
paid $400 for this.
I think I paid $100 for it or something.
They do have a lifetime warranty
on those jackets, though.
I did look it up.
Oh, this one?
Yeah, yeah.
Montane?
Montane.
Yeah.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
Well, that's good to know.
There you go.
You could treat it like
crap if you want to.
Well, dang.
Okay.
Uh, so I'm gonna keep this forever.
Please do.
And then I'll get a new one if it
ever, something ever happens to it.
Okay, we're gonna move on to
some crew members' products.
Uh, we have got Nicole's Lodge
cast iron cookware, which I
have the same thing at home.
I could have brought mine.
I have this size, and
then I have the big'n.
And I'm the only one … Well, let me
just say, I was the only one in my house
who would properly care for the cast
iron, but now I have everyone on board.
But it has taken a lot.
It's shiny.
You can tell that she's been,
uh … What's it called?
Seasoned.
Seasoning it.
Yeah.
I mean, we, I cook s- The only thing I
don't like about cast iron, it's heavy.
So especially if you've got the
big one and you got a lot of stuff
in there, you gotta get, you, I
mean, you gotta get some stuff-
Leverage … to, to hold both sides.
I mean, it doesn't have to be
Lodge, but what does Lodge offer?
Uh.
This is like a $37 skillet.
Yeah, I mean, lifetime, Made
Right limited lifetime warranty
covers normal household use.
If your enameled cast iron chips,
cracks, or is otherwise damaged
during cooking, we'll replace it.
If your cookware arrives damaged in
its container, we'll also replace it.
All right, so yeah.
I think this is the kind of thing
you can pass down to people, right?
I mean, a cast iron pan
that's well k- cared for.
I mean, I think- And it's a cool
one … one that's kind of abused.
To pass down.
You know?
Because it, there's, there's
so much history in cooking
and feeding your family.
It's kind of nice to know that
you're cooking on the same
pan as, as Grandma Nicole.
Yes.
And, and, and something that she cooked
in there, still in there a little bit.
Yeah.
I was not necessarily a, a member
of, but did peruse the cast iron
subreddit for a couple of months.
I will say that, and one of the things
that you will see if you go to the cast
iron subreddit is people … There's two
sort of threads that happen, that make
it to the top of the cast iron subreddit.
The first is someone who has seasoned
it so well that it's like a mirror.
Like, someone who has just made it
so smooth, and everybody's like,
"G- …" Like, people get aroused
by how smooth these can get.
And then the second thing you see is
someone posts a before and after of an
old cast iron that they f- Rusty one
a rusty ass one that they found, that
then they went through some process.
And there's this belief in the cast iron
community that a cast iron is never lost.
Like, you can always rescue a cast iron,
no matter how … If it's red with rust,
they still find a way to get it back.
Now, it's not a process that
I'm interested in doing, but
Bu- buffing it basically, right?
I don't know.
I, I mean, I don't even wanna know.
I don't wanna know all the stuff that
you have to do to get all the rust off.
But yeah.
Uh, what's the next one we can look at?
Casio watches.
These are Biffle?
Okay.
Really?
So this, this is Chappies?
Um- These can get up to $9,500.
Not, not this one.
What?
I'm, I'm starting to get into watches
Maybe I'll… What, what's
the appeal of Casio?
Just the retro nature of the styling?
The fact that they really,
they kinda look the same?
Well, that's kinda got a green tint to it.
I like that one.
Yeah, that's cool.
Chappie, is it mostly just
about telling the time?
Okay.
You're just a watch person.
Um- I'm getting back into it.
And you chose Casio because
you wore them in third grade?
Kind of, yeah.
Okay.
Can it do an EKG for your heart?
Okay.
Casio Pro Trek 2000T, 12
years and still going strong.
Never needed a battery change.
That's kinda crazy.
And has been un- my unwavering companion.
Well, some of them are solar
What?
Some of them have a little
solar strip on them.
Someone commented, "I like Casios,
but they are all not perfect.
People regularly break the seals
while changing the battery.
A sealed enclosure with only an opening
for the battery would be much better.
The fixture of the wristband, uh,
is a constant point of failure.
Plastic wristbands don't last forever,
and the metal ones are not better or
worse than any other brand." That takes
a lot of effort to make that comment.
Like, it's so semantics to me.
Like, it's so- I don't, but it's a
t- it's a t- it's a personality type.
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
People who find things that
are wrong with things and talk
about them on the internet.
Well, they just like to rate
the, uh, BIFL-ness of it.
That's what the f- that's what it's for.
I don't think you can critique
people who, in their own community,
are doing what the community's for.
Well, I can critique it, because
just like they critique Casios,
I can critique, uh, the process.
What happened to this one, though?
That, yeah, that one is
broken, but Chappie still uses
it because it's waterproof.
So they'll hang it on their
shower, I was informed.
So they can see the time in the shower.
Well, well, where do you put it, well,
um, when you shower, where does it go?
Oh.
So you take long showers.
So this is in your shower.
Maybe I'm just running late.
Maybe you're just running late, okay.
Huh.
We need one of these for Shepherd.
Yeah, I, I like the idea of
having a clock in the shower.
Shower clock.
I've started, um, keeping
my watch just outside.
I put it up beside my sink when I get out
of the shower, 'cause that's when I can
get distracted and things get out of hand.
Y'all- If I wear this in the shower, it
makes me, it, it thinks I'm scuba diving.
Yeah.
So I don't … And I think you're
not really supposed to get it wet.
You can't.
Y'all believe in the
concept of time like that?
'Cause when I get in the shower, it's
just, everything is just timeless.
Yeah.
And I just don't think about anything.
I just let the water consume me.
I understand that as well.
I've started, um, like,
role playing in the shower.
Yeah.
That I am, like, I'm like, man, I'm,
I'm under a waterfall that is hot in the
middle of nowhere, and I just start, I
just start fantasizing about being in an,
in a, in, in like a w- a hot waterfall.
Like a hot spring, but it's a
waterfall and it's right over my head.
I do that.
And you're, like, butt
naked there still, too?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So being in a nice shower that
was a result of you and your
wife's redesign, beautiful shower,
I've showered in it one time.
Uh, it, there was a video.
Uh, that's not enough of a fantasy?
Some- You have to then be like-
Yeah … I need to be outside somewhere?
Other times what I'll do is I'll get in
the shower, like two days ago, before I
went with the waterfall fantasy, I was
just, like, with the, the gratitude of
reality and like, man, look at this.
I can go into this box- Yeah
and turn this thing, and
all of a sudden, hot water.
It could be scalding.
Yeah.
I can put, I can get water the exact
temperature I want it, and I can stand
right under it, and then I got a, I have
another one that comes in from over here.
Yeah, you're in s- like, anyone
who can take a hot shower- And
I'm like, yeah, this is special
is in such a sliver of the, of humanity.
Appreciate the hot shower.
Like, there's such a small percentage
of every person who's ever lived that
on demand, press a button or turn a
knob- You just coated in hot- … and
you got hot water … hot, clean water.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Incredible.
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh, crap- It's crazy
I forgot to take my backpack off.
Nice transition.
But you're still butt naked
in the fantasy, so you have a
backpack and you're butt naked.
Pretty hot, right?
No.
That's not what… JanSport.
Don't g- don't, don't get me wrong.
When I get out of the shower, I
carry it like this and then I kinda
go, huh, I walk away like that.
Is it Jan Sport or is it Jan's Port?
I think it's just JanSport, and I
only say that because there was a
drag queen on RuPaul's Drag Race named
Jan Sport, but they called her just
Jan, because JanSport is copyrighted.
How old is this thing?
It's got, it's like Patagonia.
Yeah, that whole Patagonia thing.
If you followed that.
Yeah.
Well, they rep- lifetime,
limited lifetime warranty.
If your product covered by this warranty
fails due to manufacturing defect.
Yeah, of course, but Only
unaltered and unmodified items.
Not gonna work, Chappie.
Are in original workmanship or cover.
This warranty does not cover
damage caused by accident, improper
care, negligence, normal wear and
tear, or the natural breakdown.
This is basically a, it's- Limited.
Very limited Emphasis on the limited
part of the lifetime warranty.
So- This is something, this
negative review down here at
the bottom is something that I
see, uh, about a lot of brands.
So, like, this, this person says, "My
kids, uh, both have JanSport bags.
Absolutely not the product of my
youth, just generic backpacks made
out of some synthetic material."
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
So I don't know whether or not that's
true, but I last year got a Filson bag,
and it's one of those over-the-shoulder
bags, 'cause I was like, "Hmm, I'll
be 50 in a couple of years. I gotta
stop wearing a backpack." I still have
a backpack, and I still do wear it.
Uh, but I like having the option
of the over-the-shoulder bag, and I
got the, I think it's a waxed canvas
bag, so it's not a leather bag.
And as I went into the subreddits for
Built For Life, Buy It For A Life, the
Filson, everyone's talking about, "This
is not like what my granddad had, because
private equity has bought this, and
it's not as good." And I mean, listen,
I'm only a year in, and I don't know.
It's the best bag I've ever
had, but maybe I won't be able
to give it to my grandkids.
But how important is giving
a bag to your grandkids?
I, I mean, by the time they … I'm
dead and they get it, I won't even know.
I'll be dead.
It … But it is one of those things-
… that would be cool to give- Get another,
get another bag … to your grandkids.
I mean, like, a skillet, good idea.
It feels so s- A, a bag.
It's sturdy, though.
It feels sturdy.
It, it's personal.
It's, it's gone on adventures
with you, or presumably.
I, I think it's a good
thing to pass along.
It's sturdier than, no offense, Chappie,
but it's way sturdier than this.
Yeah.
Like, it's got, it's a thi- and the
zippers are really, really stout.
It feels like it's gonna last forever.
But I don't think anyone- one's foot
is gonna, like, fit in my boot in a
way that they're gonna wanna wear it.
I mean, I've worn, trying a lot
of thrift store boots on before.
Yeah.
If you get a b- Still smells great … if
you get a boot that's been molded
to somebody… I did that one time.
I got some combat boots I wore from
one day when we did that goth sketch.
Right.
And my toes went numb, because
somebody else's foot, who was the
same size as my foot- Yeah … had,
like, dipped in a different place.
You don't want that Pressure points
That's bad Yeah, you don't want that I
got to the bottom of the Jansport mystery
Okay Murray Pletz Bless you Named it
after his- I'm sorry, I am interested
Named it after his girlfriend in 1966.
Her name was Melissa.
No, just kidding, her name
was Jan She was sporty, huh?
I don't know about the sports
part And then they broke up?
But no, I think, I think, uh, Murray
Pletz, RIP, he's no longer with us, but
I think he named it after his, his love
and they got married Wow Okay She's been
riding on people's backs ever since Yeah
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