what about em group what about him we uh root we are group he should go to detention or something right the ghost dude all right okay now just a couple of things sorry I tried to send you to detention haha that’s welcome to good mythical more it’s the show after the show where well let’s just come clean that none of that was for real I hope right we were just playing games with us was I playing games yeah no I mean these are all tested devices well I can say for certain that I thought that Alex had cut the lights off he did not cut the lights off and that light flicker I saw them and I think nartu fody for being here it flickered in the air conditioners with the air conditioning comes on and off and condition but a conditioning was on completely there was two things or should I be should I be afraid right now because Jen’s afraid no I thanked him he spoke he spoke back nartu fody just spoke back now there’s nothing to be afraid of except the demon I don’t think it’s a demon cuz he has a sense of humor right any you know why you want to be on an Internet show anyway I mean no one wants to be on this show right Eric thanks for being on the show yeah thank you um what would you suggest we do at this point maybe that maybe have one more round of communication or just leave him alone I would just say leave him alone he’s not bothering anybody on you know if things start to get out of hand maybe see what the entity wants might be trying to communicate that’s what it did today what kind of things might they want they don’t eat food um they might have a message they want to get to someone or they may have unfinished business or it could be want to start a new business they might want to start a new business right that’s gonna be difficult that’s gonna be really difficult as a ghost yet can’t see him how many how often do you do this how many how many days a week we vide we’ve actually stepped back and took a little bit of time off we um we were doing about three to four investigations a month about one a week and now it’s about one a month we just take the more serious cases you really does Han tan yeah you do a lot of outside investigation um we I don’t know how to answer yeah well because some of the places are inside and outside outside oh yeah we always think about hauntings being like in basements and like in places that just means you like I can go to the beach occasionally you go to the beach no oh he does outside investigation but maybe we go to like missions and stuff and cemeteries but that’s at night right yeah so when you go to a cemetery at night this thing just going off like crazy um it depends you know sometimes when we go on an investigation we get no activity at all or will get activity on the recorder but we won’t know it until we get back and you know we have other devices that go off as well such as the EMF meter we have a k2 meter that I didn’t bring on REM pods which light up when something goes near it and you know then we have the personal experiences getting touched getting scratched um what’s the secured as things ever happened to you personally scariest thing that ever happened to me personally was a skeleton arm came out of a wall and grabbed me what yeah that was you having do I have what did you keep it did I keep the skeleton yeah the arm oh no it retreated back into the wall after it did that I was on a well-known show which I can’t say for hard to pronounce it’s hard to be it’s it is hard to pronounce it’s called outside investigation but I was on a show about it sounds scary yeah that was the worst thing that happened and I had this with me and it actually tried to pull this out of my hand pretty forcefully also it felt like bones well I did have I have the recording summer but you could hear that the clicking of the bones clicking together it sounds like a Taser but if you know what it is it’s it’s the bones clicking together and I have to advantage they caught me on TV screaming like a girl yeah yes this was when I was new and I didn’t expect you know go silicon arms yeah you know a ghost is okay but a skeleton I mean no man that’s not cool it’s like I was a not scary form or something right you were where are you at not scary farm because that would explain a lot no there’s a restaurant in a downtown Fullerton what would I serve French fruit who’s a disgruntled chef yeah did you poop your pants no I I didn’t to be honest fart a little bit I’m there may have been some flatulence but I don’t remember it I mean you get you you get your priorities in order real quick whenever you start getting grabbed by skeleton are you know that’s a yes so what what is your answer like I’ve gotta use the restroom or I don’t you know and I make a decision I think it plugs everything up actually already tight yeah yeah yeah right I can really do that what is your what is your answer to people who say okay all right what we just did is very subjective you went through a bunch of radio frequencies and listened to the radio we heard some things and then you took this thing out and I went over to the wall and of course I got something because there’s electrical frequency right there like what do you say to the skeptics well you know I’ve spent years trying to prove the existence of the paranormal to skeptics my mom’s still one of the biggest one even though I’ve played tons of EVPs for her you know what talk write to them right there into the cameras you know they’re just tell them tell me what you think even your mom just your mom how you doing um yeah I uh I spent you know a lot of time and energy trying to prove the existence of the paranormal I’ve gotten video photos audio people are going to believe what they want to believe but until they’ve walked in my shoes they’re not going to necessarily believe or want to believe but I’ve seen enough stuff to say that this stuff does exist and everybody in this room in the studio heard the voice say okay and heard the voice a demon and I mean I’m not a ventriloquist so it obviously wasn’t me saying that it came from these devices all right your hands are up here right now yeah though I’m just a little flummoxed I think is the word know trying to gather my thoughts no I’m just saying your hand neither of your hand isn’t a ventriloquist oh okay no Hannah dummy you can put it all back and it would be on dummy Abbey and if you put your hand in a ventriloquist that would be weird don’t be a little bit dependent on the vanilla beans for the quiz inception so yeah I mean um you know people see these shows on TV and they go out and they try to emulate them and I would advise not doing that join a professional team or you know get permission from the locations because you don’t want to be trespassing you know there could be loose floorboards that are still talking to your mom here she’s got a mom there could be loose floorboard but now it’s talking about a Victorian hoorays Oh skeptic yeah you know just go out and try it but you know do it by the books on what books do you recommend well there’s a great paranormal writer called hands Holzer who’s really old-school his books are really well renowned um Troy Taylor Richard Sennett those are a few three nothing enough to get you started that’s in the hands holes our books are pretty big actually so you think we can make any money off of this ghost or what do we give it his own channel and then collect the Adsense I might be a little tough you