in a world without pancakes be a waffle I mean Bree hmm obvious you know Oh try again just let’s see if if that would have gone better what it wasn’t pretty ha ha say it in a world without pancakes give me another shot in a world without pancakes sorry hmm the first time now better now all right give you know later you try it in a world without pancakes just uh you know Martha pretty obvious yeah that’s perfect man okay I wish I would add you did oh really yeah yeah that’s perfect it okay um let’s see so drape the shirt so um a in this good mythical more we’re going to talk about selecting what it would take for us to actually believe in an abduction story and B if I think if we design our own alien story not that they did but if we were going to but see which is actually going to come before amb is thinking our sponsor lynda.com slash more you can learn at your own pace with thousands of video courses you get a free 10-day trial if you use our URL lynda.com slash more you can learn all types of software but there’s also like life skills life skills I searched time management fundamentals which I actually think is pretty cool salamander tonight better now that I read the description online maybe I need to watch this one topics include understanding the principles of productivity saying no with tact no no I’m curious that’s probably not what it is like got a good look on your face and then hold your hand like this and then as your hand is doing this your mouth says no like that is probably better it’s that’s when I taught the class if it was rat with Yui passional s who are teaching it’s not me okay okay so what would it take do you have an answer what would it take for you to believe in aliens say that I know any time you talk well what we have learned me and being on the Internet is anytime you talk about anything that has any potential for controversy you will create one so I already know that there’s gonna be people back and forth about you know you guys made fun of him or whatever the reason I made fun of him is because I don’t believe this story I made it up okay now I may be wrong about that uh but like link said at the beginning I am you know I think it’s very very likely that there’s other life out there just based on statistics you know you said the thing about octillion hundred of octillion but here’s an even different way to see it there are you know how many solar systems so we’re in a solar system right now right the nine planets or eight planets and Pluto and some other stuff out there I do know that and the Sun do you have me do you know how many of those there are in our galaxy in the Milky Way within the Milky Way um come on solar system I don’t know I’m just getting million maybe a hundred billion okay solar systems do you know how many galaxies there are in the universe 100 billion maybe a hundred billion okay good so just think about that first just you can’t the fact is you just think about that for a second you can’t you can’t think about it you can’t comprehend we don’t allow it but there’s a hundred billion solar systems and I realize that the the conditions for life to exist have to be very specific but the chances that that is happening somewhere else is very high but it takes you know how big our solar system is not personally I mean how is no the galaxy that needs 100,000 light years across 100,000 light years across and that’s just like I get it so so the chance is that there’s somebody out there very high the chances that they’ve come in contact with us very low right that the civilizations have lined up at the same time and that we both have the technology to intercept one another to perceive one another but so just so it probably hasn’t happened but you also have this to me listen to the story a Leever with a light show I mean I’m just the details of the story are not what you would expect in a very Travis was true they smack of being Travis made right and one of the criticisms criticisms of his book is that he actually gives two short I wish it were longer he gives like novelistic type lines to the crew who saw this happen to him as they’re speeding away and stuff like that well so we already know he has a penchant for the imagination and it linndrum know so it’s kind of like well we kind of get any and then he was on a game show in 2009 called moment of truth where they asked him point-blank were you abducted by aliens in 1975 and they determined using their saw their you know their technology they know he lied when he said yes so anyway and holographs are not are not perfect we know that but I’m just saying I don’t believe because I haven’t seen any evidence that would convince me that this is actually happened that’s just starting point in the bar would it take but the Barney and Betty one I just think that when you when you live with someone and a dog that and a Datsun I mean if couples over the course of their lifetime starting to look the same then if you’re going to go into like hypnotic regression you’re probably going to come up with similar stuff to you know if your soul mates what because that’s another thing it doesn’t necessarily because they have an alien abduction story doesn’t mean they’re being deceitful you can be like that sleeping guy guys you saw the blue beam and the cops believed it they’re not necess lying right something may have happened something that’s not explained but it doesn’t necessarily mean that it was an it that it actually happened yeah people experience things all the time that aren’t real but so what but what would it take a personal experience will be to me being abducted by aliens hmm it would be me shaking the glass cylinder those fetuses I’d want to I want to watch you be abducted as I was like pulling away in my lumberjacks you need a guy with a GoPro to be abducted that needs to be the next thing on the GoPro to have all these amazing videos I’m like a corridor little hands coming up no corridor digital will be fake I’m saying the GoPro channel is reeling this no I would believe it had or did you have to establish that there’s one thing that’s real when they they say they strapped a GoPro on system and that was rigged but if we could get a GoPro on Travis and say go stand in the woods out there and that shirt and then when it shows up on the GoPro we will believe it they would be like well but they would disable the GoPro the sound isn’t great on a GoPro maybe we should like give them like government Allah give them a zoom a recorder right they have to have audio to give them a zoom recorder and then you know what will happen the GoPro battery almost like we died and what we still have the audio and then it’s like something that some Foley artist created yes people will be analyzing it for like six months and then they’ll come back and say well it could be Foley the fact is if it is going to if it if it happens it’ll happen to you it’s not going to happen to one dude who writes a book we will know it’s going to be more like Independence Day if we come in contact with aliens gonna be big we’re going to know it will smith will be district 9 Independence Day that kind of situation but get ready for it guys Eddie Europe are you a believer or wanna be a believer because I know this is your gig you believe in aliens right that’s what I want to believe I find that easy to believe too yeah I mean I you know Steven Holl you’re a legend we shouldn’t want them to come conceive and Hawking says that it’s unwise to think that they would be friend benevolent uh I don’t really care I think it’d be cool even if they’re crazy meaning we have to fight our epic battle against them it’s still gonna be awesome well what what’s the history of humanity what’s your history of people invading another place we just show up and kill everybody that’s what we’ve done right so why don’t they do it yeah we we want the plan but we’re nice I mean do you want are you volunteering to be sent because sure we’ll send all the nice people yeah let’s no no Stevie now we’re gonna has a hat we’re gonna send all the nice people to look for aliens so that we can take over this planet kill them with kindness I don’t know I just get rid of these nice it would be super cool but considering the fact that it takes you know two to tango it’s not it’s it’s the distance the distance that has to be covered because you know so now the latest thing they do now is they’re able to determine they’re able to look at stars a meaning Travis and the Lumberjacks no not Travis people with science degrees are able to look at distant stars and see a slight wobble based on how a planet is impacting gravity regret you know the gravity of the planet in the orbit and they can kind of be like it’s very likely that that’s a rocky planet that’s approximately the right distance from That star to support life at least life as we know a carbon-based life and they found quite a few of those they find them more and more every day just but they’re still like 100 light years away which is like next door right but still do think I mean you’ve traveling a speed like something we can’t do we can’t even get close to and it would still take generations to get there so I don’t know it could be there I just don’t know if anyone’s ever gonna have the technology to to make contact man oh boy I wish they would I wish they’d we’ve got to have a wormholes what you need yeah war driver wormhole or warp drive right into the wormhole we got a fold space and time on itself I haven’t even seen it yet you haven’t seen in Estela no he just like goes into a bouncy house and that’s that’s a whaler have you seen em you seen gravity yes it’s like that except with Makani I’ve almost watched interstellar 700 times but you know why I haven’t it’s loud no I mean I miss it in the theater and now I’m on Amazon and I look I look at it and I’m like what oh it’s 2 hours and 45 minutes and we’re like it’s 2 hours and 45 minutes late you need to watch the last 45 minutes oh really oh yeah she just told you that part that’s a rubber room all right I think you would really need to watch it if you were really serious about this stuff I’m pretty serious about it I think I’d like it up into that bouncing board do this and pry open your eyeball and I probe it or whatever gotta believe what I’d have to be probed