
Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Link. And I’m Rhett. This week at the round table of Dim Lighting, We’re back. We’re back. We’re really back. Regularly scheduled programming, regularly…. Weekly length, regularly linked. Linked, yeah. Programming. Yeah, we got back from our trips, my regular link, our um, our breaks. And, uh, you’re, today you’re going to tell us about your break and I’m gonna tell you about the break in my voice for a second. You really struggling man? A lesser man. You’re not supposed to come back sounding like struggle. Well, I didn’t come back this way. This happened this morning. I don’t know what it is. A lesser man may not do a podcast in this condition. Oh, listen, I’ll do all the talking today. I’m gonna talk about my, but that, that’s why I’m glad you’re going first. I’ve got a tea and I’ve got a water. I, I roll in this morning. Red’s already at his desk and he’s like, he’s like making these like make Yeah, say hickma. That’s say Hickma. Hickma. Yeah. And say it with more force. I don’t know if that’s gonna help me. You think it’s gonna hurt you? Why are you so resistant? Well, here’s the thing. I’m trying to help you here. My throat has one of the hickma trick. It has one of those things in it where if I start coughing, I feel like I’m gonna f it. You know what I’m saying? Like, like you start, I like that is the other one of those, like, you feel like you’re gonna turn into a grandma, but that’s a TikTok waiting to happen, man. Uh, I don’t know what it is. I guess I’ll find out. You turn that into a TikTok, right? Uh, yeah. TikTok does not like very fond of vomit. Oh. But I can find, I can like, make it look funny. Yeah. Wake up, man. We’ve talked about this before. Come on. I can like, make it look like they don’t, like vitally functions rainbows or something. They don’t like talks of Oh, they don’t like talks of dookies and things like that on TikTok. Yeah. There’s lots of things you can’t say on TikTok. Well, I’m disappointed in you TikTok, but maybe I’ll be okay. I don’t know. I dunno what I think. I it just like I start talking because, and it’s like, it’s right. It’s cat tickle man. It’s, it’s a tickle tick. Well, you gotta tickle. But what’s going, but what causes it? I went to iron, I woke up. I, we will talk about that. I was fine this morning. We’re not going, we, I’m gonna let him get this out of his system. Well, but I went to Ireland and I’m gonna talk about that. I thought it was fine for the majority of this episode, but, but back to your tickle. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll get through it. Maybe I won’t. Maybe I won’t. I don’t know. Maybe I won’t make it. But I’ll be quiet for most of the time. I would like to know what one is supposed to do for a tickle. I thought a tea would help. We don’t have that throat coat anymore. You’re not drinking it deep enough. Uh, it, it might be in the Oh, you got one too? Yeah. You got one too. I know. I got one too. It might be in the, uh, medic Now I’m getting one. Yeah, you’re feeling it’s, oh, it’s in the wardrobe room. Um, not in wardrobe. In. One of the lockers. I’ll just ask Carly. Shit’s Macy man. Don’t be taking that. I know, but it numbs your throat. And your throat. Just stop sending message to your, to your friend. You’re fine. Dude. I’m, I’m trying not to think about it, but then all of a sudden it’s just like, it takes my vocal cords and grabs them and says, ah, maybe, maybe hold out a long note, a comfortable note, and you don’t have to lean right into the mic. Comfortable. I just, that still just say, ah. Uh, lower, uh, lower, lower note. Uh, I found it. I found it. I found the, I found the little spot. Now stay on that. Let me go, let me get right. We’re developing a technique here. Uh, uh past it. Uh, no. Oh, there it is. I found it. Game. Oh, stay with it. Oh, is in different places. It’s moving. It’s dynamic. You’re pushing it out. You aspirated a little bit. You think I’m moving a piece of food up my throat Outta your lungs? Yeah. It’s not in the lungs. It’s right here. Uh, lemme see if I can keep grabbing. Well, the throat is the top of the lungs. If I can keep breathing it. Breathing it. Uh, I went to Ireland. No one’s gonna be able to hang all long enough to hear about it. Oh, it’s working. Next week I’ll be talking about iron. Still there. Want me to get you? Uh, there there is throat coat. I can go make you one. There’s some throat. Coat. Yeah. I’ll go make you one. That’s not, it’s not gonna help. I think it will. I want, I need to have three. Yeah. It’s not gonna, I need to have three mugs here. Unless you’re willing to drink, you need threes deeper than you are. You need three. It’s not gonna work to drink deeper. You have like, when you gargle and you hold a deep note and it goes deeper link when you drink, it goes all the way through it. I look cross camera. No, you’re, you’re trying, I you need to Jenna’s crossing camera. That’s fine. No, this is above the windpipe. It is above the windpipe. Did you gargle? I, yeah. Uh, yeah. It’s above the windpipe. So it’s in the passage where both air and food go and drink. It’s not below the windpipe where it would be, I could be asphyxiated. It’s up here. It, you could probably get your finger to it. I could maybe get, like, if we have a prod of some kind, get a finger to it. We have a multitude of spoons. I don’t wanna do that. I think throat coat will help because it’ll numb it. It’s, I need an herbal numbing. Just wet your finger and then send it back there. We definitely can’t put that on TikTok. Me inducing. I can’t stop. I can’t do that. You’re not in, you’re, you’re, it’s a tickle. Scratch it. I will vomit on the table. If I do that. I will vomit the little fig bar. It was the only thing I could think of to eat. Thought maybe a fig would have a soothing motion. A soothing effect. I don’t think it would. It’s kind of rough. Why don’t you just talk about your trip? Maybe I’m not, it’ll just go away. Maybe it’ll just go away. I don’t know how bodies work. I actually, well, I know what’s gonna happen. Jenna’s gonna come back with a tea and then We’ll, we will be back to this. Yeah, but I mean, think she’s gotta think of all the things that have to happen. You have to get water hot. You gotta put the tea in. Oh, well if you know how to do it, why didn’t you go do it? Because I could be here and support you. I need to support you in your trip. There it is again. It’ll go away. It’ll go away. I will say, and except when you said, there it is again. We didn’t know that. Uh, we didn’t know it. Go back and listen to the tape. My voice stopped in the middle of a word, but I’m saying it is fine. We didn’t really care. We didn’t mind. Ah, okay. Well I thought we were trying to deal with this together. I thought you were in this with me. I think if you hold a note, maybe you change the volume if you rattle it out. It’ll either go down or it’ll come up. I think maybe we’re misclassifying it. I don’t think it’s a piece of something that stuck. I think it’s, I think it is an irritated spot that is, is, I don’t know what caused it. I really don’t know what caused it. It could be of, you don’t need to know. Idiopathic, what is the word? She’s already back. Idiopathic origin. Yeah. Yeah. Is that idiopathic? Definitely something I feel so idio, idio. Look at this. I got three black mugs. Yay. Yes. Okay. Three, I’m, I’m supporting you. Mugs. See how they drink three black mugs. See if they help. He took a sip of green tea and that didn’t help. We took a sip of water and I don’t know how the song went. He’s now gonna try some pro ate a fig coat in a, yeah, you’ve got, you ate a Fig Newton in a YouTube mug. Three black. That was weak, man. But it’s hot. It’s hot as hell, man. It’s just, I was like, okay, I’m gonna burn. I’m gonna cauterize the whole inside of my throat’s so I can make it through this. That’s, that’s, that’s how committed I am to this. That’s good. Again, again, a lesser man would go back home, put on a TV show, not this man. What show would you put on? Because I refuse to talk about Ireland until this is completely done. You wanna talk about what I’ve been watching lately? I just, I think you need to keep talking yet. I binged friends and neighbors while on break, but I’m not done with it. You recommend? Yeah, I think so. Okay. I wouldn’t, yeah, I wouldn’t say hardy recommendation, but I would say solid recommendation. I don’t even know anything about it. John Ham Bone, isn’t it? Uh, it’s a comedy. No, I mean, it’s got funny elements. What is it? What’s it on? What channel? Apple Plus. Okay. Okay. It follows the formula of, uh, middle-aged white man running runs into problem and turns to crime to solve it. So you’ve got Breaking bad set the template, Ozark revisited it to great effect. Okay. Now you’ve got friends and neighbors. Okay. I recommend it on the plane ride back, I started watching the Penguin. Ah, the penguin? Yes, penguin. Only because I wanted to see if Colin Farrell pulled off this amazing performance. Of course he did. Right? And he, yeah, he’s pretty amazing. Yeah. And he’s Irish. So I felt like that was your research and this was flying in the face of my commitment to, well, I don’t know if it was flying in the face of, but it was, it was a soft, um, violation of the commitment that I made to myself to not watch, to place a complete moratorium on my personal viewing private public in any manner of superhero films. Oh. So I’m done. I I, I told myself I was done a year ago, and here I am saying that somehow Lily, she kept finagling it. And then there was one night towards the end of our trip where. We didn’t have something to do. We had a window of time, and lo and behold, there was the theater and they had the IMAX tickets. And so we watched Superman. I watched Superman on my breaks. James Guns Superman. Yes. And uh, it’s, it’s fine, but I just am so sick and tired of like cataclysmic city, cities being destroyed type of crap. Yeah. I’m not gonna argue with you on this. Uh, it doesn’t even matter if it’s, it doesn’t, I don’t even care if Pedro Pascal is the future of Marvel. I can’t go there. And that was the one that I was so tempted by, and I think, and I, and I probably would’ve fallen for it, but I made my exception with Superman. And it has nothing, nothing against Superman. The movie, he’s super early, always. It’s a. It’s a good movie. It’s a good fine movie, but I’m just not going to allow myself to do it anymore. And then what do I do? I get on the plane and I watch The Penguin, but it wasn’t a movie and it’s really more of a crime drama. Okay. It seems like you’re, you know, coping, coping a little bit. I was only watching on the plane and then I got off the plane. I was like, I’m not even gonna finish this. And I had three episodes, so I finished it. Oh yeah, I can’t leave it hanging. And I will say, if you don’t have a moratorium on television, superhero adjacent stuff and you like gritty, uh, crime gangster films, um, or series, I’d recommend the Penguin. Um, and here’s why, because it’s really well written. The story, the characters and the way that you. The way that the story unfolds and that the characters, the way you get to know these characters, um, I won’t say anything that’s spoilerish, but I could, it’s that kind of thing. Hmm. So there’s things, right for spoilage, mild spoilage, my type of spoilage. You know, I think the thing I don’t like is, so I’m recommending is, uh, it gets better as it goes along. And you might agree with this. It gains momentum through the whole time thing is, um, action. What, what about it? I don’t like it. Oh, you don’t like action? What do you mean? Let me be specific about this. I don’t like super action, and I think this is what, whether or not you, you, you believe this to be true or not. I think you will after I finish this argument. Okay. So now you’re talking about superhero action talking. You’re not talking about like John Wick. Yeah, I’m not talking about John Wick. Okay, good. I’m talking about. Like you said, the city being destroyed. I, I, I watched Superman. I thought the same thing. I also liked the underlying message of Superman and what it was a commentary upon. I like, I like that. Yeah. But I like that the, um, the packaging and the, like the e the villain, the, the, the, the, what I would call the uncomplicated villain too is another thing. Yeah. It’s just like somebody who’s just evil, right? And, and who’s, and can deliver a speech after speech about it who’s just an asshole. I’m just like, this isn’t, this is not as interesting as it as it could be, but it is. But again, it’s the world now. It’s the, the, uh, it’s the world. What? It’s the world of superheroes. Okay. Yeah. I mean, do you remember Captain Planet, the guy? Actually, no. I’ve never seen it. Well, so on Captain Planet, I don’t even remember the v, the villain, but he was just a guy who polluted the earth. And it seemed like he, why he woke up every day just to want to pollute the earth. Yeah. You know, it wasn’t com complicated, it was just, I like pollution. That’s the other reason that the penguin is so good, is because, no, there are very few characters that are actually good. So you find your, you find yourself dependent on who’s what, which story that you’re concentrating on in that particular m moment or part of the series, you find yourself gaining understanding of the evil and it’s complicated. The human condition. Yeah. But when the Oh, but, and you’re pulling for him until you find, until they go too far. Or you find out new information and then you, you pull for another person who’s just as bad in another way. Yes. It’s very, I like that. So, but I’m talking about the destruction of the city and like the city splitting apart. Spoiler alert, the city splits apart. Who cares? Um, what I’m saying is that it’s not really happening. You know what I’m saying? I don’t, I can’t, how can I explain this to, in a way that, uh, makes sense to me and you, it’s like it’s just all happening, happening. Well, I don’t think you have to explain that it’s not happening. It’s all justing that I just happening in computers and something about that something is happening in computers. It’s just all happening in computers. You, you, you’re, you’re, you’re going full A 24 now. Oh, I mean, oh, I love a 24. What about the, what about the, um, ask me what the Rock MMA movie That’s a 24. Well, I’ll see it. I see a 24 stuff. I see it, I see a 24, I go see it now. I was a bit underwhelmed by the materialists. I did not see it. Even though I love Pedro. I love Pedro. Okay. He’s the highlight of any production for me, soft rom-com type. Um, but I think I was supposed to want something for, uh, Dakota Johnson, and I didn’t want that for her. So You good now? Yeah. I don’t know. I won’t say anything if my voice just cuts off in the middle. I’m just saying I won’t say anything. I’m, you did, you went this far without saying anything, so now I don’t. Yeah, I think I got, my three mugs are gonna keep me under control at all companies, but especially ones like ours. 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Um, we all, the only reason we did that whole thing at the beginning is because we need to make these into two separate episodes instead of just one where we both talk about our trips. Neither one of us have enough that happened to talk about it for one episode. Yeah. That might be part of it. Yeah. Did I You’re welcome. Throwing you under the bus. Yeah. My throat’s actually fine. Is it? Not really. Yeah. But shut up about it. Yeah. Uh, Ireland is the, uh, let’s see, Western most. European country. I know this because, um, and I could be wrong about that, but I feel like I know that because I took a boat out to Skelly. Michael, I’m skipping ahead here, but I just want to give you some, give you some juicy something since you’ve waited so long. If you didn’t skip, I think Skelly means island, but there’s two of them out there, the SIGs, and they’re like really, uh, scraggly and paramedic, like pointy and, um, they’re both words from the mainland on a clear day. And we had the fortune of having that. For the first like five days out of our, we were there, uh, for almost two weeks, like a little over a week and a half on the, on the western coast. Our home base was Waterville small town, which I’ll tell you more about later. But I booked this boat trip to go out to these islands that you can see. And um, the first island that you come to and circle is, um, inhabited by these birds. Oh, birds. I wish I could remember what they were called. Those are like a white gull and it’s the second highest roosting population on the planet. They just love this particular island. And they’re of these birds, these birds. Only these birds like, well, what’s the first, um, I think it’s like off the coast of Africa or something. And, and it’s just rock. They’re all, it’s basically just rock. And they’re like roosting all over this thing. Shit. Flying all over it and duking and it’s, it was quite a pungent scent after an hour boat ride where you can make yourself like it if you try on some people are kidding. That’s where the Irish do no inhabitants on this island besides these birds. Could you imagine if you were the one guy, um, Birdman? Yeah, I could. But that doesn’t exist, right? Sad little story about these birds, huh? They, they dive into the water and eat fish like plunk plunk. That’s very sad. And the way that they die is because they. Eventually blind themselves by fishing. Well, they die doing what they love. Yeah. And seeing it less and less to the point where you can’t see to eat because you’ve blinded yourself. Well, they need to close their eyes when they get the water. I think that it probably do, but I don’t think it matters after, you know, like seven years of that. Well, we might need to buy ’em some little goggles. Goggles. Goggle ’em up. I’m gonna start a like a hundred thousand go goggles. I’m gonna start a GoFundMe. Bird goggles Goggle. The birds. That link. Can’t remember the name of, it’s like, wait. Yeah. Irish bird goggles. Is it the northern gat? Yeah it is. Oh, it’s a gat. It’s the northern gat blind and goggles left and right. They’ll sign up for it. Uh, and Ireland is not the most Western European. Okay. Can I guess what is, but let me put a pin in it. Okay. But there’s a small, because to me, I know someone is gonna comment. Is it the Pharaoh Islands? No further West, to me it is. Hmm. At a, at a certain point, maybe the mainland, but it’s not, it was or kind of. Okay. I don’t need to get stuff right, but think Yeah. Keep fact checking me. Okay. But um, as we all know, that doesn’t matter. Facts. This is now the world. Yeah. That’s the world we live in. Right? This is ai. Anyway, the whole SALT podcast has been for the last year and a half. Um, the second island is the main attraction. It doesn’t stink. You start to see these fluttering. It looks like they’re struggling to fly and they migrate here. How? I don’t know. Because when you see ’em fly, it’s like huffing and puffing. Same birds. Nope. A different bird. And I think the reason why they call ’em that I just figured it out, is because they huff and puff. I’m talking about puffins. Puffins, which is almost like a penguin. It’s almost like a penguin. But they can fly. But it can fly. It’s a p it’s, it’s a bird becoming a penguin and it’s, it’s got a beautiful orange beak if you believe in that kind of thing. And they’re super cute and they’re just swimming in the water. And when the boat came close to a group of some of them, they didn’t take off flying because it’s too hard for them to fly. They just started like, like swimming hard. Yeah. So I’m seeing all of these puffins on this island, which sk like Michael, which is at, that’s who you were with. That’s the name of the island. Huh? Keep tracking man. Okay. Which is an UNESCO World, world Heritage site. Because when you get close to this thing, you can see carved into the rock faces climbing up 618 or 681. Those are the numbers. 600 and something. Okay. I have my doubts. Steps. Steps. Okay. To the top of this thing, monks. Monks have carved these steppes and then for like a century or more, I love this. They have trudged up and down, this unforgiving little island, and at the top they have built a monastery. Oh my God. But it’s just these rock, like flat, like picture like slate rocks, like you know how they’re like flat, but big. They’ve built what I will call igloos. They, or they were called like beehive huts, domes. They were domes. But think about a slightly more pointy igloo. Made out of flat rocks that have stood the test of time and all types of weather and wind. Unforgiving, unrelenting. How big? Um, big, I think big enough where like maybe four people could sit in there. Oh, they’re not huge. There’s not like a big sanctuary. It’s like little huts. Little huts. Um, and 180 people a day are weather permitting or allowed to hike up there, but you gotta book it like six months in advance. And I wasn’t able to do that. And that’s a huge regret that I have. Oh, you didn’t get to hike? I didn’t get to hike it. What did you find out about the history of this place? Everything I’m telling you. They were there and then they eventually moved to the mainland because I think it was less about the Vikings and more about the weather. Yeah. It was tough. But that, but, but they had done it. They had been there for like a century, but that’s what monks do, man. Yeah. That’s what they did. The a aesthetic, not aesthetic. And it was the edge, western edge of the known world. Yep. Known to you as well. Yeah. As that it’s the western most point of all land that existed as far as I understood it. For a long time. That was true. That’s what the monks thought. They went all the way out there to the edge of the world. Yep. And just hunkered down in these rock beehive putts. I love it. And just sat there and did their monk stuff and I. If I go back, I’m gonna do that. I, there were two tickets available, but like, the moment I mentioned it to people, everybody was like, oh, I wanna go, I wanna go. And then I couldn’t pick who I was gonna go with. Oh, Charles. Charles, man. So we blew it. We blew it. You saw it. But we went around it, saw it, and it was beautiful. Now if you’re into it, this is also where Luke Skywalker was found by Ray in the updated Star Wars movies. Yeah. That all happens on computers though. We don’t care about that. Uh, he was physically there, but he was there. He was really there. And you, I’m, you can see the, the, the huts are part of it. They’re, they’re visible. He was in one of the huts. I don’t remember. Well, I, I remember the huts now that you say this. And that’s why they had those creatures that were like puffing inspired. Mm. Man. I, I mean, and there’s of course no railings. We don’t need railings. And they don’t let you go out there unless you’re like really prepared. Like you gotta pass a cottage to test. Well, if you don’t have the right shoes, they won’t let you go. They won’t let you go on the boat. No, ies. And it mostly rains there, so it could be very treacherous. I mean, it’s like rainy and cold for like, oh my gosh. Most. I mean, it’s exactly what they wanted. Yeah. And they got it, man. And they, and think about how long it took ’em to build those steps. Oh yeah. I mean there was definitely plenty of monks who never even got to get into the huts because they died before they finished the steps. Like that’s how long that kind of stuff takes. Like you’ll be working on something and then you’ll die and your son will just start doing it. You know, like that there We were so many places when we were in Portugal. Yeah. They were like. See this area of the thing. This guy started this and then he died and his son kept doing it, and then he died and his son kept doing it. It’s just like, this is what I do. I just finished this thing that my dad did. And it’s cool that you can go there and you can literally walk those steps and if you, if you book it well enough in advance. So that’s my biggest regret. Um, but it was beautiful out there and we had, uh, really good weather. And on the way back I had a really good view of this one woman who was barfing into a weird, kind of a cool bag that they gave her. It was just like, it had like a really solid ring at the top that you would like and you hold onto. You could hold onto to it for two hands. They need those for the planes. So it just, it just keeps it gaped open. Yeah. And then you can choke it below it. Like, you know, you, it’s kind of like a, like a pelican neck. How so? She would vomit into that and then she would choke it below it. How big was this? And I would look at her at the corner of my, how big was the boat? Um, there was like 20 of us on the boat. Well, 15, I could have 20 people on a cruise ship. Man, how bad that, how big is the boat? Couldn’t have had any more on the boat. Okay. It was like a fishing. How did Christie do on this? She did fine. So Christie doesn’t get boat sick? Not as much as you up there. We call that seasickness. Not as much as you. No. She, she felt a little uneasy, but she didn’t get one of those cool pelican neck bags. I what? IWI wonder what it is though, because it felt so bad for that girl. Kris gets car sick and I don’t get car sick, but I get seasick and she doesn’t get seasick. I get car sick. I don’t get sick. Our brains need to be studied. That’s that, that’s not a good look to, to say that. I mean, I don’t think people would, people would care much about the article about it, you know, the study, but like, what makes somebody seasick and not carsick? I don’t know. So we, we flew into Dublin. We drove across the country that had to be beautiful the entire country. We took the southern route from Dublin all the way around to half. We drove on what’s called the ring of Carrie. Now there’s this, Carrie is the county that, um, it had, you know, on the western side you got these big fat fingers that are coming out and you can drive your car. There’s typically a scenic route around a lot of these, like along the coastline, and it’s absolutely beautiful. You’re talking like huge cliffs, uh, verdant countryside. Hmm. Sheep and cows and, um, ancient walls. Yeah, just like. You can, every, everything just has this ancient feel, which we Americans like immediately appreciate because we don’t have any of that. Yeah. We have like walls from the seventies, right? The 1970s of course. And, and, and when you get over there to that, the ring of Carey is a, uh, is a road basically around that whole big fat finger. And a lot of people take tour buses from Dublin or other places and then they’ll drive the ring and they’ll get off the bus at certain places. And Waterville is like the lunch spot ’cause it’s right in the middle on the coast, which is where we stayed. And we found out that like if we went, if we drove or biked into town to get a toasty with some onion, sweet onion jam on it, which. I need more of that in my life. Oh. Um, you gotta dodge the timing of the tour buses that dump people off. But whenever they get back on and leave, then it’s just this peaceful little village. It’s, and it’s the relaxing vibes. You’re walking on the beach. Nobody, nobody on the beach. Of course. There’s no water sports or anything like that. It’s not that type of beach. What’s the beach like in this particular place? It was a, it, the tide went in and out a long way. So it was, it was sandy and ply, but then at a certain point over, it was very rocky. No one swimming, no one’s surfing. Some people swimming if they’re there and you can’t surf there. Uh, I saw one surf spot when driving the ring of Carrie, but the reason why people get on these tour buses is ’cause I. If you don’t have experience driving in Ireland, you have no business driving in Ireland. Of course, I rented a car and I made my business to drive in Ireland. Oh God. When I’m renting the car, we thought Lincoln might be coming. He didn’t. It was Lily, Lando, Christie and me. But when it was you had that other person and big ass luggage, all of a sudden I had to rent like this big honking van. Van. Yeah. That’s what I drove around Scotland and a van. That’s what I still had. And the guy at the counter was like, don’t do this. Don’t do this to us, sir. It was basically his message as nice as possible. He was like, I can’t, I can’t let you do this. So he downgraded me to a ranger rover. I’m like, okay, that’s cool. Thank God. The thing was, and then, you know. I had driven in New Zealand, and if you remember the story after Chrissy and I got a spa treatment after we had been there for almost two weeks and I had gained confidence, I’m like pulling out and still turning the, going against traffic and this old man is getting out of his car and like cursing me. Yeah. Into Bolivian. Like literally you’ve had this happen actually in Hawaii. Well, you don’t drive on the other side in, in Hawaii in New Zealand. No. But you got yelled at by a motorist. Yeah. Yeah, I did. I get yelled at. Yeah. Um, so I was a, I was a bit apprehensive leaving the rental car place, trying to get out. I mean, the worst thing is getting, you know, driving around an airport. Oh, they do everything in roundabouts, but then there’s lights in the roundabouts and you’re on the wrong side and all of this stuff. Excuse me, the other side, the left side, and I’m just. I mean, you couldn’t, you couldn’t get a pen in my anus. Hmm. Well I’m not trying to, not an in, I’m not talking about an ink pen. I’m talking about a sewing needle. You couldn’t, I mean, I, I’d like for you to turn it around and use the no one is the whole in, just stick a needle in your ass. But, but don’t, you couldn’t do it. No one sharpened the hole end. You couldn’t have gotten it in my anus ’cause I was that tight and nothing What were people in the car saying? They, nothing. Everyone was just silent and I tried to play relaxing music, but we’re like leaving and I’m like trying to figure out relaxing music. I’m trying to get out of the city as quick as possible and just get on some sort of road that’s just like consistent as opposed to turn left, turn right and all this stuff. I’m getting kind of into the burbs of Dublin. Not loosen it up a bit. ’cause it’s scary. What kinda, what kind of relaxing music on the, on the meditative, uh, j just some instrumental folk. I was trying to, you know. Oh, okay. I did try Irish folk fit the setting. Yeah. On the, you’re in the left lane, but then there’s another lane to the left that’s just for taxis and buses and they’re like, whizzing past me. And then that lane goes away and we’re all merging together and we’re in traffic. And then all of a sudden I hear sirens and this ambulance comes up behind me and I’m like, sweat just pouring outta my, my pits. And, and the thing I knew was that like, okay, don’t panic. This is a life or death situation, but don’t panic for somebody else. For somebody else. Yeah. And I can’t, I don’t wanna make it a life or death situation for. So I don’t know what to do, so I’m not gonna do anything. I’m just gonna, so I just stayed there because there’s no place to go. I couldn’t go to the right because it was, there was like a median and then there was oncoming traffic. But I wanted to, I really wanted to go to the right, ’cause in, in that panic situation, I’m like, I started going to the right and then I’m like, thank God there was a, a barrier there. I’d have gone into oncoming traffic. And then, so then instead of, this is how discombobulated I was, instead of then saying, oh yes, I’ll go left ’cause pulling over is left here. All I could do was just stay there. And, but the ambulance couldn’t go around me. So the ambulance was just like, I mean, I don’t know if the siren got louder and louder, but it definitely felt like the siren was getting louder and louder. And then why didn’t they go to the left? Because you’re supposed to go to the left. Because they kept waiting for me to do it. And then. I eventually went to the left and I was like, whew. So I, I made it good. No, I mean, the medic didn’t get out and like start yelling at me. Who knows what happened to the person in that ambulance. I mean, every second counts. I mean, maybe they weren’t in the ambulance yet. Well, every second even worse counts. I know Every second counts, so I potentially killed somebody. Yep. Like you’re already here. You’re already here. Sorry. Ireland. Here’s your title link. Potentially kills, kills someone in Ireland. Yep. Let me know. No, don’t, don’t. I don’t need confirmation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you died because of me. Um. But then I’m like, okay, we’re on more of a freeway. We get out and then, but we kept going and going and going and we’re going through all these towns. And when you get over there to getting close to Waterville, I mean, things are rural, there’s no, there’s not even gas stations, fast food is a thing of the past, right? Like there n never nowhere in fast food any in the, none of the towns have anything like that. All they got is pubs. And the pubs are the place for everything. They’re the center of Irish world, I’ve learned. Okay. Uh, ’cause you eat the food there too. You don’t just drink the drink the beers Right. But then the roads get smaller and smaller and smaller, and all of a sudden I’m convinced that I am driving a car on a golf course. There’s no lines. It is like, it gets like single wide at first there’s like, well, there’s still a line in the middle, and then that one goes away, and then they’re, they just have lines on the, on the sides on each side. And so it’s one lane that you’re supposed to stay in the middle of, and then you, and then those go away and it’s just bushes. And then there’s, they don’t know where. They don’t have shoulders. The roads don’t have shoulders. Yeah, they, they just have bushes. But, so it’s, it’s literally a golf cart path with no marks, no way to pull over. And it, and you’re in a Range Rover, and I’m in a, at least you’re not, at least you’re not in a van. I know, dude. So what do you do when you come upon a person going the other way? Well, I mean, in a worse, worst case scenario, somebody backs up, did you saw this happen? Yeah. But usually they would have little pull offs. You know how like when a mailman pulls over to put the, the mail in the, in the box? You know, it’s like, yeah. The mailman just creates one of those, those kind of existed. So you’re like, there’s not a moment that you can relax when driving in Ireland. Is there an etiquette that you understood, like, okay, I, I began to underst to be the one to turn off. I mean, if you. If you can, you do. It’s whoever’s closer to one of ’em. Yeah. And there are plenty of places where you can just, it doesn’t look like you can pull over, but you just do anyway somehow. And you just have to get used to the fact that my side mirror and that the person who I’m meeting their side mirror are gonna kiss. They’re gonna be literally centimeters. You see what I did there away from each other. That’s just what everybody’s just used to it. They just have this innate sense of like where their side mirrors are. And they don’t, they don’t touch, they just kiss. And you go past people all the time. But I mean, you could lean out in the window and kiss an Irishman, oh, that’s the Irish kiss if you wanted to. But the, uh, the other side of the car. Is against the bushes. Yeah. And you and Christie’s there, and you don’t know how close you are to the bushes. I mean Oh, Scotland wasn’t? Oh yeah, you do. Because you’re constantly hitting them. Yeah. Scotland was similar, but maybe not as bad as you’re describing. Maybe Ireland is even more, I mean, I was in the Highlands of Scotland and I was going off of the road. All my, my dad and my brother were behind me and they were like, yeah, your like wheel is kind of like on the, off the shoulder half the time or whatever. Yeah. But it was still too lane. Kristy, Christy kept saying, get over, get over. You’re getting too close. I’m like, girl, you do not want me to get over. I’d rather hit a bush than a, than a dude. Yeah. And what I mean that we were on the road for five hours that day and we stopped for lunch and we stopped and we, we went to, and you went like 15 miles. We stopped at Blarney Castle. But, and, uh, we did some different things, but like my, by the time we got there, it was dark and it don’t get dark until 11:00 PM My brain was fried. Like I just, I I felt like I couldn’t have gone another mile. I was just completely and utterly exhausted. And, but no one’s saying there’s never regrets. There’s not a moment that you can take your eyes off the road or your hands off the wheel, you know, like adjusting the, the air conditioning, adjusting the music. And you had an automatic Right. No way. Oh, yeah. Had an automatic, which I mean, that’s not always the case. That’s not, I couldn’t have done a stick. A lot of people would just get, yeah, I, I got an automatic too when I was Scotland, but. Apparently that’s not always, especially in like mainland Europe, but it is beautiful. I mean, it’s absolutely beautiful and they’ve just got sheep all over the place. And one of the things that I notice is that there’s a lot of, um, people seeing things around Ireland and a lot of them have a certain companion that surprised me. Now it’s a dog. Doesn’t sound surprising. Okay. But, but it’s not an Irish setter. It’s a three-legged dog. I can’t tell you how many three-legged dogs I saw just trotting around. Mm-hmm. Scenic overlooks or like beaches or, I don’t know what it is about the, the dogs in Ireland, but they’re short on legs. I think maybe they get ’em run over by Americans. That’s, it’s it. I mean, think about you got these narrow roads, you got dogs just Yeah. Sticking a foot out. That’s what it’s dude, they’re run over. Their dogs are getting their legs run over. Yeah. Now we’re not the only ones who drive on the Right. The majority of the world drives on the right side. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The rest of Europe does. Yeah. We go see, so all of us are, are, are maiming these dogs. But the good news is they’re love. They’re still loving it. They’re still doing fine. Well, you got four to start with. Right? Right. Cats have nine lives. Dogs have four legs. That’s right. Yeah. The thing that I said was, I just don’t want to kill a baby. Okay. That’s a good thing to say. Like I literally said that out loud many times because that’s a good direct call. It was a ver when I was driving, especially in town, but sometimes in the countryside, there’d just be somebody pushing a stroller. No side, there’s no shoulders. They’re on the road, in the cities. There’s no sh shoulders, no sidewalks. They don’t believe in that. They’re just like people walking in the streets and then a car comes through and it’s like, why am I, am I in a parade? I just, I just felt so strange. People pushing strollers right at me, like they’re trying to push it under the car. I’m like, I just don’t want to kill a baby. Yeah. You know, if I can get through this’s, trip it, good instinct. Good instinct. Without doing that, I have succeeded. Well, if we, uh, maybe not killing anybody, but especially a baby. I didn’t kill any babies, but I, I came close, I would say five times because they killing five babies. Well, ’cause there was nowhere else to go. Well, what did the baby do? The baby was the baby by himself. He was in the stroller. Okay. What did the baby’s mother and father do? Nothing. When you get behind it, what do they expect to happen? Well, they’re not, they’re, they’re coming at me. Hmm. Unflinching, what did you do? I tightened my butt hole. How do you maneuver around it? And did you I went to the right a little bit. But did, but did you see Irish people navigate these situations and, okay, I’m gonna do what that guy did. They kind of go to the right little bit. That guy almost hit the baby, but he didn’t at the beginning. Yeah. They almost hit their babies and they don’t. Right. Okay. I mean, they just kiss ’em with the, with the side mirror and hit the occasional dog. Yeah. They don’t care about that. Right. That’s okay. Unless, unless they’ve, unless they’re already down to three. I mean, Irish people have to, they’re hard scrabble when they, when they come to the United States, and I think this is probably true for people all around the world. You come to the United States and you’re like, why y’all got so much asphalt? Like we have, yeah. We have shoulders on lots of our roads that you can, it’s a whole car over there because all the roads were built before cars existed. We know the answer, right? Yeah. Yeah. It’s carriages Were, and horses were on these. Roads, right? And then they were like, well, let’s pave ’em and not gonna make ’em any wider. Um, so I got another dog story and I got another, uh, golf cart path story. Okay. Um, we rented bikes so we could ride around town. And what that meant was Christie rode the bike once and then said that she doesn’t, she’s too scared to ride bikes. I don’t know. She’s gonna be mad at me for saying that, but like Well, you’ve made it sound scary. Scary. Yeah, that’s true. It is scary. So she didn’t ride the bike that I rented for ’cause you’re riding it on roads. Yeah, you’re right. They don’t have bike paths apparently. No, no, no, no. Well they do, but that’s where the cars drive. There was a golf course at the, um, not too far from where we were staying in Waterville. Nice. Golf course. Of course I don’t golf, but I’m biking at, um, play golf as my mom would correct you if you said that. Oh, 10 30 at night, which is like sunset. And I’m like, I’m riding around and I’ve, and I’m riding in the parking lot of the golf course. And then I see as I’m going past the clubhouse that like the gate. The service gate is open and it, and so boom, there I go. So now I’m riding my bike on the golf course. What time of day? 10 30 At night. It’s getting dark. And I’m like, well, there’s, there’s nobody golfing. I was like, oh, no, there’s still some people golfing. I look over, there’s three people coughing, and then I’m, but I’m, it’s too late now, so I’m just riding by ’em. Oh, they don’t report me. And then I, I’m like, man, they’re being still. And then I look closely and they’re statues of golfers. Oh. So I’m like, I’m good. And then around another corner, and on the fairway I see dogs, just dogs sitting on the fairway. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 dogs. Not like scattered. And I’m pedaling and I get closer and I’m gonna count the legs of these dogs. Yeah. And they scatter and they run. And I realize that these dogs have the longest ears I’ve ever seen because in fact, these are Irish hairs. Oh, giant freaking rabbits, dude. Yeah. And they’re how big, as big as Jasper, who’s a, you know, a, a 13 pound dog and he’s bigger than a 13 pound dog in terms of like, he has space, he has long legs. He has long legs like a rabbit. He, if, if, if Jasper had really long years like a Jack Rabbit, that’s what this would be. And they don’t hop, they run, they, that’s how they do it. So they’re like, they run, they run like, like a dog runs. They’re, they’re just big enough and their le their front legs are long enough and their legs work in a way that, that’s what it is. Irish hair. Did you make a wish? What do you mean make a wish? I don’t know, it just feels like an Irish thing to do and like you see, oh, you see hairs on a golf course was make a wish. And, um, it’s magical. It’s magical there, right? It wasn’t, it was magical. And, um, I thought you were gonna say there were statues, by the way. Yeah. Well interestingly enough, the, what are the statues that delineate the, where you tee off, what are those called? The tee boxes. The tee boxes. Then I noticed they were Irish hairs, so, oh, the logo and the whole theme of this golf course Oh, that’s cool. Is Irish hairs. I went around another corner and. Same thing. Now there’s solitary animals. I read a little bit about ’em. Well, that’s all I read about ’em, so don’t ask me. So what they, what were they doing having a meeting? They weren’t together. They together, but a separate, they were separate. Like people riding on the subway. Yeah. But they had plenty of space. I, I go around another, I mean, they’re like all over this golf course, which is on this peninsula, right. On the ocean and this like river that comes in. Wow. So that was a, that was a highlight for me. ’cause that was like an adventure. And I like to get into adventure where I’m doing something. I’m not doing something bad, but I’m doing something wrong. One of your highlights was biking a golf course. Yeah. Not playing the golf course. Well, because I knew, I, I knew I wasn’t allowed there. I knew if I got confronted by somebody it would not, it would be I needed to leave. Yeah. Because you can’t do that during the day. For sure. Right. And I too distracting, but I tried to respect, I wasn’t like driving on the greens or something. Right. But it wasn’t all paved. Yeah. And it was beautiful. Um, so that was a lot of fun. And then I’m, I come over a corner and I come over a hill and there are a few people at 10 30 at night still golfing. Isn’t that awesome? Wouldn’t you love that wreck? That’d be nice. It’d be nice golf after work. Yep. Right, right on the ocean. And so I didn’t want him to see me, so I had to subvert and go another way and get sneaky, sneaky and, um, and no trees. Right. No trees. Yeah. And then I’m trying to exit and the gate’s closed and I’m not gonna get off my bike and walk it. So I’m like trying to find another way. And then I see a worker in a golf cart and he’s coming towards me. Mm-hmm. And I’m like, okay, this is it, but it’s fine because I’m leaving anyway. And I, and the golf cart passed split. And so as he’s coming up to me, I was like, I’m going to, I’m gonna kick off this conversation. Because that, that’ll put me in a position of power and authority. There you go. So I said, what’s the quickest way outta here? Oh, see, okay. Yeah. I’m already leaving. You don’t have to tell me is what I was communicating. I’m lost, basically. And he was like, he looked at me very puzzled, young guy. And of course he did. I, and um, he was like, uh, you go, you can go that way. So I went that way before he could even finish talking, because I didn’t want to be detained. I don’t know, I just felt like I could be detained. Yeah, yeah. They’ll, they’ll arrest you. Yeah. And that’s, I love that feeling. You know, I love that feeling. Feeling of almost being arrested. Um, not arrested, but detained. Like, okay, you’re, you’re doing something wrong, but you’re not doing something bad. You know what I’m saying? Okay. Yeah. A little trespassing. Yeah. Ain’t never hurt nobody. As long as you don’t hurt anybody. Yeah. Well, it can hurt you sometimes, depending on the landowner. So I got outta there. Um, next night we go to the restaurant that’s, uh, around there and we’re, we’re with our friends, um, another family that they have a house there and they’re like, their plans are to move there permanently. And so it was nice. Do they play golf? Yes, he plays golf. That’s gotta be, so that’s gotta be something. You should have been friends with him, not me. Yeah. Right. And we are, um, of course we’re drinking our Guinness and we’re splitting the g. Do you know what this is? Mm-hmm. Splitting the g Jenna. Tell, tell us what splitting the G is. You, uh, drink your first, uh, sips of Guinness out of the pint. So perfectly like that first big gulp that when you set the pint back down the logo, the Yeah. You, you’ve split, uh, from when the beer level you started drinking. Yeah. The beer level is splitting the G Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the flat part of the g in the word Guinness Uhhuh. Um, and this was my first time doing this and I was like, all right, we’re gonna split the G and, um, uh, I failed You went too far, but I will tell you I didn’t go far enough. It’s a lot further than you might think, which is the beauty of it, because when you try to split the G then you’re like, you’re really gulping a lot of beer. You’re really getting started hot. Yeah. You know? Um, but then I will say every other time I split the g. I nailed it. Oh, and I would always impress. I decided, and you take it from me. I was like, I knew about this split the G thing. I was like, I’m gonna take the L on the first one, but I’m gonna measure this out in my freaking mouth, man. And I’m gonna, I’m gonna calculate what it, what my mouth takes to split the G. It’s three gulps and then 60% of a four fourth gulp. So not just your mouth, it’s your, you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re putting in your throat. So it’s your really, your mouth and throat. I don’t know how to open my throat to, to uh, do that. So for me it was, so you’re filling the mouth and then emptying the mouth. I’m filling the mouth and gulping. Oh, don’t tell anybody about that. But they’re distracted ’cause they’re also trying to split the G at the same time. So do you look like how, how? I don’t know what I look like because I feel like that’s, oh, nobody’s looking at me. ’cause everybody’s splitting the G at the same time. But how slow are you drinking it if you’re, if you’re going, I’m drinking it fast as I can and it’s, that’s not splitting the gene. I’ll say shut up. When I put, when I put the pint down, I put it down at the same time as my cohorts. Okay. I will say that. Okay. All right. And except for that first time. Every other time, nailed it. And I was a hero. I was, no one else could, could do it. Local hero. I was. I was the best. Other people could do it, but I was the best. At something. It’s respectable. It’s something, and I gave you my secret, and so you’re not gonna sit here and pick it apart because I didn’t have to tell you that. Uh, well, my mouth’s different. You right? Yes. But the, I don’t think I can follow those rules. I, but the, the technique take the L on the first split the g I’m counting. So then you can take the g Every other time I’m counting in my head is what I’m doing. I’m figuring out my pace and I’m just doing, I’m just counting. Do it, but without making that noise. Of course. And the first time you do it, you wanna stop a little short and then you want to add a little, well, if I go to Ireland, I’m practicing this before I ever get there. I’m doing this on America’s soil. Oh yeah. Well it tastes different. It tastes different. Yeah. Different altitude. And then, um, there’s a party going on and you know me. If I split the G enough and I’m walking to the bathroom and I encounter a party, well, I’m gonna engage with said party. Okay, so I engaged with this party. They’re, um, celebrating somebody’s birthday. I knew this because they had sang it. Yeah, the same birthday. Same over there. It was the same over there. It wasn’t Gaelic or anything bad day. They were, I probably just said a different accent. Accent. And then, um, the one, this one guy comes up to me and he’s just like, I thought I was totally crazy when I saw you on the golf course last night. He was the guy who worked at the golf course right. Was there at the birthday party. And he was like, I thought that was you. I was like, well, you were looking at me like I was crazy, but I thought I was gonna be detained. So yeah, I kind of blew his mind. He is like the dude, like the low man on the totem pole, having to shut down the golf course encounters. Some dude on a bike scattering the Irish hairs and it’s me because he, he watches the show. So it did happen a few times. We got some, some Irish fans. Uh, the beautiful town of Adair is where, uh, the Rider Cup is gonna be next year. See, I know. Golf things. Yeah. You know, a lot of things. Um, I met a local Barkeeper there who was a huge fan. And um, the chips there, I’m skipping around now, but when I met him I bought my favorite potato chips. Oh, I thought you were gonna be talking about french fries. No, I’m back in America. When I say chips I mean it. Okay. Alright. Potato, potato crisps. Of course they have potato chips there. Uh, potato crisps. And they have a brand name called Kig or something. KE. Oh yeah, we have those here. Oh, well they have ’em. We have them here. It’s like KEON. Yes. Yeah. Well, they’re Irish, KEG or something and they have cheese and onion and they ha they have cheese and sour cream too, I think. I think maybe we just had ’em on the show and I remember ’em noting how good they were. They’re so good dude. And the, they, you can get ’em with ridges like, you know, our favorite chips are ruffles. Um, sour cream and cheddar. Cheddar Sour cream. Yeah. They have cheddar onion with ridges and they are just the best. Hmm. I was surprised. You know, my expectations for the food was pretty low, but best fish and chips I’ve ever had rely, I mean, and different places are do it really well and if you go to the right place, like I really like that ’cause I like putting vinegar on my. On my, on my fish. Right. Also, I like putting mayonnaise on my fries, which you can do there, but that’s not something they do. Um, I mentioned toasties, seafood chowder. I mean, like white fish, it’s, so, instead of clam chowder, it’s like white fish in a chowder and brown bread. So, I mean, kind of bland stuff, but I really like bland stuff. You, you know, so you throw back a Guinness. Um, what about in Dublin? Isn’t there like a food scene in Dublin? Is there like Indian food in Dublin? Like there is some London, yes. Yes. We ate really good Indian food. Um, a number of highly rated places. Um, and it was, you know, most, a lot of the people in there were Indian people, so I was like, this is the right place, you know, and it was, it was great. Um. I, I’m gonna recommend a couple of things and then I’m gonna close with a prayer. A, uh, a Gaelic prayer. I memorized, that’s the, a limerick. I’m gonna close with a limerick now I’m gonna, I’m gonna, I’m gonna close with, um, one, like my favorite experience on the aisle, which made me grin uncontrollably and brought a tear to my eye. Hmm. I know it’s kind of late in the episode for a teaser, but like, they skipped ahead 17 minutes anyway. Right. When you’re in Dublin, I recommend going to the Little Museum of Dublin, a 20 mi 29 minute tour, uh, right there in the heart of Dublin. Um, it’s a, it’s the, it’s a performance. From the tour guides, there’s only like a couple of rooms and it’s less about, and you get this like overview of Dublin past and Dublin present. So it’s like a historic, a history lesson, but it’s very entertaining and it’s, um, because the tour guides are, are, uh, very vivacious. So we were eating across, around the corner at a Middle Eastern, um, cafe called Tang. And, you know. If you see the tang, you gotta get you some tang, right? Yeah, that’s right. You’re talking about the drink or the drink? The drink, right? I’m talking, I was just trying to make a joke. It’s a restaurant and you need to go there and you need to get yourself everything that they have. Absolutely amazing. Like falafel. It’s wonderful. Once you eat a bunch of fish and chips, you kind of want to eat some Indian food. You gotta mix it up. You kind of wanna eat some Middle Eastern, um, Tang is a great lunch spot. And then right around the corner, go to the little museum in Dublin. We ha the guy who was like the manager of the place, he happened to be walking by while we were eating at Tang, and he recognized me and I, I was noting his, I liked his pants and he, and he gave us free passes. He said, I’m a fan of what you do, if you can stop by. And I’m so glad we did. We had so much fun. It was funny, it was educational, it was entertaining. It. And if it’s raining, it doesn’t rain in there because it’s inside. That’s helpful. Uh, we also went to the church, which is an old cathedral that has been turned into a bar. And, um, they have Irish, uh, river dance or whatever you call it, like Irish jigs. They’re like doing Irish jigs in there. So get yourself a pint. Watch, watch that. Um, anything else I missed? Did I talk about three legged dogs? Yep. You did enough? Yeah, probably. Okay. I had signed us up for, I was like, all right, we’re gonna drive up to Dingle one day. Dingle dingle, uh, coastal town and on TikTok, outside of Dingle, people post Pet a Baby Lamb, which is kind of redundant. But people put this all over TikTok, so I knew that we needed to go over there and do that, and I knew that like everybody else would love that and I’ll be okay with it. So we all went up there and, um, we did that. But the thing that I made reservations for was a sheep herding demonstration. Oh, yes. Which this is something you can see on TikTok and, and sometimes it, it will come across my feed. Does it ever come across your feed seeing dogs working and herding? Yeah. And like sorting sheep or sometimes like running over the backs of the sheep and stuff like that. Yeah. Now that I didn’t see that, so thanks for going ahead and setting the bar a little too high. Oh, okay. But yeah. But just, um, herding in an, in an open pasture. Yeah. Um, being. Controlled by one Shepherd. So I signed us up for a demonstration and we show up and when we get outta the car, it’s just like a shack on the side of the road. And then when you look up the hill, it’s right on the coast and you, if you, it’s beautiful. And when you look up the hill, there’s like farm ruins and walls and some sheep, but we get outta the car and there’s like a, an old sheep dog there. Um, I would call, I actually wouldn’t call it a sheep dog. It was a, a border collie, black and white border collie small. And I swear that that thing was limping. I think that it was going, maybe going down to three legs. Oh, maybe it’s an evolutionary thing. Slow moving. And um, so we petted that dog. And then we met the guy and he was, he was a, he was, he was a swar guy. He was, was a pirate. Pirate. He was not a pirate. I’m not doing an Irish accent. He said, go up and look at, go up there in the path. And, uh, we’ll come up there eventually, which they did. And, um, a couple of buses got there and then dumped some people off. And then he lined us all up on the side of the fence. And then he goes up on the other side of the fence and he starts doing a presentation and he calls his dog and dadgum, if it isn’t that dog that I thought was on its third leg. Yeah. Not in that way. Right. And the dog springs to life and is the most, to use the word again, vivacious being like, just like bursting with joy to do the one thing that she. Was every fiber of her bean was geared to do. It’s all part of the act though. They, they, they play hurt and limp and stuff like that. I think it was playing a little, she, these people, he was playing sheepish down there. Yeah. I’m gonna for sympathy pull on these people’s heart. I think so. Oh, it’s all an act. I think so. This dog is, there’s no dogs. Were smart man. So smart. Yeah. And we were just petting him, being like, oh, you, you must be retired. Like, literally, literally. Yeah. We were saying things, I’ll show you retired and then I’m getting goosebumps just talking about it because like, there were, there were two dogs that he had, I can’t remember their names. Like Lady and something, not the Tramp. And, um, he would give voice commands and tell ’em like, go up, come around. Like left, right? Like, and so. You could tell that she was like, raring to go. And when he finally stopped talking and like told her to run up the hill, she runs up the hill and then she, you know, then she brings the sheep down, nice and gentle right there, right beside us. And, um, he sent, he would send both of ’em out and one of them, he, the commands he gave were in English, and the other one, the commands he gave were in Gaelic. Wow. So they were completely independently controlled. Very cool, very exciting. Just to see a dog just fulfill his destiny and to, and to be so excited about it. I wonder if that’s part of the system is to, you have two dogs you have to do Yes. The two different languages. It’s like part of the tradition, um, that’s how he did it. But I learned that’s tradition. But I mean, well, yeah. Two sets of commands for, I mean, it is. I was saying, but at one point everybody up there spoke Gaelic, so Oh, what do they do at that point? Um, well, they can either train them with different commands or w or as I’ll talk more about it in a little bit whistles. Hmm. So it’s, you can either just give them a different set of commands entirely. But he used Gaelic in English. Um, we left there and we went, and that I was like, this is the best thing. This is my favorite thing. I couldn’t wipe the smile on my face. You know, it’s just one of those things where it’s like, what the kids first time at the circus or something? Did anyone get before you really understand what’s happening? Did anybody get video of this? Were you compelled to capture it or just capture it with your heart? Christie did, but I, I didn’t, I was like, I’m not gonna, I have to be here in this moment. Yeah. We went to the lamb, uh, feeding and lamb holding thing after that. And then the guy at the lamb holding thing was, oh, we told him that. We had just done that. He was like. And then we told him where we were from, and he was like, well, 30 minutes from where you’re from, you know, we had driven like two and a half hours to dingle. He was like, 30 minutes from where you’re from is the world champion sheep herder. So you should go see Tom O’Sullivan. Not, not me, little old me and Dingle. No, he’s, don’t go see my neighbor. It was his neighbor. Oh. So he was like throwing his neighbor under the bus because he knew that we were from there. He was like, well, you gotta go see Tom O Sullivan. He’s the, he’s the cream of the crop, like literal world champion. And I’m like, well, I’ll go see them all. Because it was the best thing I’ve ever experienced in, you know, in the rain, in the Okay. For the qualifier. Mm-hmm. And so two days later, here we are going over, uh, to see Tom o Sullivan do his thing and. Uh, I’m talking another level. Oh, really? I mean, not to knock this guy, the, the guy, the first guy we saw, he was a sheep farmer. Okay. Right. Which they don’t sell the wool, they just sell the meat. The wool, he said is just worthless. Yeah. How, how so? How so? Economy? Just the economy of it. I mean, there’s no demand. Hmm. That type of thing. Wool’s out. Wool’s out, apparently, at least for him. Okay. So I’m not dogging this guy, but he’s, he was a sheep farmer, you know, and he was showing us what he did, which was cool. But then, and I guess Tom O’Sullivan might’ve been, but, but he takes everything to a whole other level because he’s a competitive sheep herder. Is he dressed differently? He was dressed in a more. High end rain suit. Oh, okay. That’s a sign. And he had a great speech. Mm. And he was very informative. Did he have dogs that were acting like a little bit under the weather before they started? No. Okay. It wasn’t like they were trying to pull a shtick. Okay. They were up under a, uh, shelter and the world champion that he loves the most, that he actually lets sleep in the house with him and his wife is getting on up in age. And he tells us this towards the end, and he’s like, so she’s, she, she suffered an injury, a, a leg injury. Yeah, that’s, yeah. See, I’m telling you, he didn’t say it was a car though. And he didn’t say had to be, she was going down to three, but I think that might be happening. She’s on her way, she’s in re rehab and she’s getting up in age, so she can’t work as much. And you could tell he was getting emotional because he has such a connection. With this. Like she’s such, he’s trained hundreds of dogs, but like to be the world champion and to be, you can look it up Tom o Sullivan, sheep herding and see her do her thing and you could see him get an emotional when he was talking about it because he’s, he has such a connection to such a special, exceptional dog. But the other dog is the one that he did the demo with us and, and he, that dog was amazing too. And, you know, he’s explaining why they crouch and basically it’s that wolf instinct, you know, they’re trying to, you know, they’re, they’re, they would be eating these, they would’ve been eating the sheep. So it’s very important. For him to train his dog well, to be under control because it’ll scare the bejesus outta these sheep because they think they’re being stalked to be eaten constantly. Yeah. Right, right. So the main challenge he talked about was in keeping them calm and controlled in their hurting because they are so geared to do it. And they will go full. They would, I mean, they will run themselves to death doing this because it’s just in every fiber they’re being. So it’s like you’re controlling, you’re not controlling them to doing it, do it. You’re controlling how they go about it. And you’re also controlling meticulous movements at long distances, which is why you need the whistle, which was just this like piece of plastic, you know, when you put your fingers in the corners of your mouth and you do that kind of whistle. So there’s no like. There’s no gole and it’s not a, it’s not a referee whistle. This is one of those, like, we, I can’t do it. And you can make, so, you know, like, um, the, the guy from Yondu and Guardians of the Galaxy Yeah. How he would like, use that whistle to control the arrows. Not that I watch superhero movies anymore. I don’t. Right. But that’s one of the best, uh, he would do those type of whistles and then he would, he could have different whistle commands to have multiple dogs going at the same time. He didn’t train his dogs in Gaelic, in other words. Right. And he did most everything with a whistle. How complex does the whistling get? I could tell. I mean, he would, he, I, he told us about like five different whistles and he told us that the, you know, it’s like go left, go Right. Stay. Um, and then he said that one of the most difficult ones was once you isolate, like he isolated one sheep from the group and then let the other group go. And then the dog was just keeping this one sheep basically isolated. And then the whole herd was then behind the dog. But what was that sheep thinking? I think the sheep are quite used to it at this point. Yeah. But the sheep aren’t thinking, oh, it’s my turn. They aren’t thinking a lot like Right. The sheep are stupid. They don’t, they don’t start to get trained as part of this demonstration process. Right. It’s always a new day. It’s always, it is like clean slate. Yeah. Which in another way is, is equally as inspiring. Right. It’s like you, uh, but he said the most difficult thing was this. And then he said, turn around. And then immediately. The dog leaves the sheep that it is like just completely fixated on and then goes and gets all the other sheep. And that’s like really hard to train apparently, because once they get fixated, they’re not gonna wanna leave succeed because they’ve done what they’ve tried to succeed. They don’t, they’ve succeed, which is separate one from the herd. I think so, yeah. And, and you’re doing a lot of work to get them to be able to do that. So then to kind of then say, unless I tell you this, then you have to do the complete opposite. And it was like, the moment he said, turn around, it was like on a dime. And it, I mean, and again, if the sheep or far away, like just how these dogs will just sprint, just, I don’t know. It just, it was just an exultation and you could just feel it. And they were just so happy to be doing it now. They were, they were made to do it. They were, they were created to do it. They were bred to do it, bred to do it. Um, but yeah, it was just like the ultimate satisfaction and it was just so contagious. ILI would, uh, I gotta start watching it on, uh, TikTok and there’s a show called, maybe you can start your own chapter. There’s a, I don’t know. Yeah. I, I, I don’t have the responsibility to take care of a, a herding dog. I mean, you don’t, there’s so much energy. Right. I mean, your dogs are less well trained than mine. What? Jasper will come when I call him. I mean, Barbara can lay down, she can dance. Oh, she does tricks. She does tricks. I mean, that’s the culture thing. She does more trick tricks, does more tricks, but, but she and Sean can’t do anything. But Jasper will heal in a public situation. Okay. Not when I’m being confronted by a deer, but, okay. So apparently there’s this BBC show called a Man and his dog. Hmm. That’s like from, I think from the eighties, maybe nineties. But Tomo Sullivan was featured in that. Uh, well he is been doing this for quite some time and, um, so I, it must, he’s not that old. So maybe it went into the nineties, but like. I think I’m gonna look up that show and start watching that. It’s not just about sheep burning, it’s about like, all the things that dogs can do. Right? And it’s, I guess British. So if you’re into that, that’s my recommendation. A man and his dog, thank you Ireland, for having me and my family. Um, we had a wonderful time and I, I want you to know that I did not mention leprechauns once or until now, and I didn’t do a Lucky Charms impersonation because I know that those things aren’t a big deal to you. And that that shouldn’t define who you are as a people because you’re so used to them at this point. You see ’em all the time, it’s like not a big deal. Um, so next week, I gotta say I’m a little bit jealous that you got to go to my actual homeland before I got to go to it. It was my homeland too. Uh, when I don’t, when I, well, when I looked up, back when I had 23 and me before I deleted the data. Uh, more people I’m related to, more people in Dublin than any other city on earth. In terms of like the concentration of like third cousins. So I feel like I have to go to Dublin and I gotta learn how to say it correctly, um, Dublin at some point. So maybe I’ll have a different take on it one day, but I’ll have a take on Boston. Boston, Croatia. Croatia in North Carolina. Oh, next week. Okay. The hat trick as they say. Okay. Yeah. Alright, we’ll speak at you next week if you’re ready for that. Hey guys, this is Haley calling from Emerald is ish, North Carolina. I just wanted to say, you know, Link. He’s got a point. Okay. Love you. Bye. This summer, we’re going way back. Throwback marathons at Good Mythical Morning are hitting Mythical 24/7 every Thursday, find us on Amazon Prime Fire TV channels, Roku, Samsung, Plex, in so many more ways to stream.
