We are the Jonas Brothers and this is our last meal. [Heavy metal intro music] Every person has exactly two things in common. We all got to eat and we’re all gonna die. Today’s guests are multi-platinum recording artists whose new album Greetings From Your Hometown is out on August 8th. All three are members of the New Jersey Hall of Fame, along with the likes of Buzz Aldrin, Albert Einstein and Harriet Tubman, the Jonas Brothers. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Hey, hey, I forgot Buzz Aldrin. In the hall of fame. From Jersey? I was gonna ask. I have a Buzz Aldrin’s story for you. Do you? I would love to hear it. Um, he refused to take a picture with me and somebody, and somebody came up to him and said, you should probably take a picture with him. So we did get the photo and I think my eyes were like, because originally I was like, excuse me Mr. Aldrin, can I take a picture? He like, no. While by the way, we are on sidelines of a Cowboys football game. Incredible. You would say yes in that situation, but he did not. If anyone’s earned the right to be a d-ck, it’s kind of Buzz Aldrin. The man on the moon. Yes. Allegedly. That’s the headline. It’s coming out. Uh, do either of you have any Albert Einstein or Harriet Tubman story? Who else are you hanging out with? No, I don’t. Uh, you know, we’re not actually in the hall of fame yet. We’re inductee’s this year. I retract my statement. They could actually take it away from us. We, they could. Maybe after what you’re about to say. Hopefully Buzz Aldrin is not on the board. He, he maybe can. Well, thank you all for joining us and, and Joe, thank you for returning. You’re our first returning customer to the lineup. Oh, wow. I cannot believe you let him back in your kitchen. He snuck through actually. We tried to stop him at the door and he was like, do you know who my brothers are? And then we let him in. Oh. So yeah. Well, Joe likes to play games at dinner. Uh, he always has a pack of cards or something that he pulls out and like continues the conversation going. One of the ways to do that is I ask him, what would you eat if it was your last meal? I think it’s a great conversation starter. I think it’s a great conversation finisher too. Some people get wildly uncomfortable and I’m down to get uncomfortable with you boys today. Let’s do it. Cool. You ready to eat? Yeah. Let’s do it. For the first course of your final meal. Nick for you. We have the gnocchi pesto. This is hand rolled gnocchi. Uh, just a little bit of flour. Worked into potato boiled, fresh pesto made in the mortar and pestle with some pine nuts on top. And then Kevin, we have the lemon pasta from Bar Mutz. We actually did contact Chef Robbie Felice. Oh yea. To get the official recipe that we had to divide by 12 times ’cause it’s for a restaurant. Uh, but for the official lemon pasta, a little bit of fresh toasted herby breadcrumbs on top of that. And then Joe, for your surprise, we have the discontinued McDonald’s breakfast burrito that only existed in Arizona. How did you? We made it from scratch, but used McDonald’s ingredients. That is this? Yes. Um, is so cool. Please enjoy. Um. I know we’re filming this, but I’m gonna take a picture. Listen, the family, the family, Arizona, the family group text is gonna go off today. This is, this could have been one of those like Mandela effect things though, where like we believe that this is, this existed. So, and maybe it never did. I don’t know what you think you ate, but going back, we did find a burrito that only existed in Arizona and then parts of California and actually parts of New Jersey, New York, but it was a steak and egg breakfast burrito. So I don’t know if that’s what was in the breakfast burrito you were eating. Yeah. Was it really? Yeah. This is it. Well done. So, uh, dig in. Where do we want to start? What’s the correct? I think we just go around, right? Yeah, let’s go around. I can’t serve. I mean, this is, this is an easy way to serve that one. There we go. Thank you so much. Wow. Chef Robbie is kind of reinventing the game in Jersey with some restaurants. It’s one of my favorite spots. I was brought here because. You were brought. I was brought to, brought to the restaurant. I was brought to the restaurant because you’re not able to get a reservation like you have to have eaten at the place. Must be tough. Yes, I know. Wow. Don’t involve me in this. I can leave. You guys got this. Um, you’re not allowed, you’re not able to get a reservation unless you’ve eaten at the restaurant. Meaning you, you have to go with someone that’s already has a reservation. Oh, wild. So it’s a good way to, um, keep the doors full. We got a round of beers. Cheers. Thanks boys. Cheers. Hey, thanks for coming by, man. Thanks for having us. I should have brought my brother. You guys like talking about mortgage refinancing? Absolutely. Well, so does he. You’d love him. Oh my God. That pasta is really good, Kev. I told you. Delicious. Tell me about this burrito. ’cause this is the real wild part on this. So our grandfather rest in peace, Papa Miller. There he is. He um, you guys wanna get a shot of that. He worked at the postal service and then he was in the military, so that’s his military photo. And Papa Jerry Miller, we would, he was just the funniest person in any room and we learned so much from him and he would sneak out with one of the grandsons before Mama, our grandmother could really catch us. And I’m sorry mama if you’re watching this. I dunno if he loved her breakfast. So he would sneak out and go to McDonald’s and he’d be like, don’t tell your grandmother. And we would get the breakfast burrito in Arizona where they lived and it was, and we’d come back so full and they’re like, breakfast is ready. And she would just know. Like, Jerry, where did you take them? And they’re like, nowhere. No, we were smoking cigarettes. Literally. Um, so quite excited to try this. I’m, I’m so excited. ’cause, uh, nostalgic can, can be a blinder in a certain way, you know, especially when it comes to food. How was it? It’s amazing. Why this was so much my favorite pasta. ’cause I really do not like lemon. In most of my food doesn’t fruit. He doesn’t like fruit. He says he’s allergic. No, that’s not like lemon’s a zest, it’s not. I agree with you. Lemon’s not a fruit. No, I, I, I am fully on Kevin’s side. Thank you. I will defend that. I like it in a drink. I like it. We didn’t go to the moon. Lemons aren’t fruits. Clip it. Buzz Aldrin fraught. No, this was ordered. I, it was put down and I was. Eh, not gonna even try it. ’cause I didn’t just like not my thing. It blew my mind. Mm. Yeah. But it’s not a breakfast burrito. That doesn’t exist. That never existed actually. What? Mine are all made up. This guy never existed. I got this tattoo just from –. Gaslights his brothers, uh, please no, for real eat. Um, I wanna ask about the new album Greetings from Your Hometown. Yeah. Because you’ve put out the album artwork for it and it’s you three sitting in what looks to be an old school Italian restaurant. Why did you go for that image? It was a bit of a debate with our– Mm-hmm. Within our team, because obviously it’s like our fan base. They wanna see your face. Yeah, but we were like, this is such a great representation of going to your hometown. And that can be for anyone. And I think just even pick, choosing that name as an album title, not everybody’s proud of their hometown. And also, yeah, it can be a frustrating or confusing place for us. Literally the, our town we grew up in, we went back recently and it was like, it still gives the heebie-jeebies, everyone’s like certain parts of that town. Yeah. And we chose that photo because it was a representation of like actually what it’s like. You sit around and you have conversation and that can be anywhere. This is great. We’re glad to experience this together, but this captures a moment where we were genuinely just having a nice time together and, and we were like, let’s take the photos behind us and kind of redo them with photo because there’s a lot of gangsters. So we figured, let’s put our, let’s put our family photos. Alleged. Alleged. Alleged, alleged. Um, talking about like complicated relationship to your hometown. Y’all made a documentary in 2019 Chasing Happiness. Here we go. Right? Just one meal and you want to go there? What? No, it, I love it. It’s a very powerful scene. It ties in. Oh, sorry. I’m doing my job. I don’t, when you guys are singing, playing guitar, I don’t come go. Oh, here we go. They’re singing again. You know what the Jonas Boys do. Yes you do. I would love to actually. But there’s a scene where you go to your childhood home and everything seems very kind of rosy. And then you go to your childhood church and the mood gets immediately more complicated. What. Which one of you do you think has the most complicated relationship with your hometown? Because surely they’re all very different. Um, it’s tough to say. I mean, I, I think that this last six months has been interesting ’cause I’ve been in New York and been able to get back to Jersey a few times to, to visit Kevin and the family and. Just generally to spend some, some time there. And my, my time off and I have a real deep appreciation for it now that I, I didn’t have even five, six years ago, the reason it was so complicated to go back, uh, for us because we were sort of pushed out of our community. Um, that we had, you know, been a, a big part of helping build, you know, our father lost his job and, and. Um, he was a, a minister and, and so it was, it was really tough to sort of look up and your home is gone, your, your friend group. And, um, honestly there was, there was also a lot of sort of hurt and betrayal that came with that. And as the years have gone by, we’ve been able to, to sort of heal that and, and look back at it and, and know that it fully shaped who we became as, as people and, and our worldview. And it like no longer feels painful because we’ve been able to go and, and achieve. So many other things. That’s beautiful. I, I think there’s almost like a wisdom to nostalgia in realizing that the sweet in the bittersweet always outweighs the bitter. At least for me. When I returned to my hometown, it was maybe 25, 26. I’m literally driving through the street and I see places that are connected to bad memories. 5, 6, 7 years past, I drive down and I, I don’t see those anymore. I remember the good times. Yeah. So like, you know. Walking around the Rancho Santa Margarita Lake. The first time my best friend like made out with a girl and we’re like, oh my God, what was that like? You know what I mean? Wow. Became a legend that day. Truly did. Truly, yeah. Not gonna name him, but you know, in the Ross dress for less. Nevermind. Um, but, uh, like, wow, what a spo. Have you– Me too. Like, have you had that experience of noticing the way that you feel over time changing? Absolutely. Um, I went back to New Jersey, uh, which is now 16 years ago, so I feel like. I never left. It was always a part of my like ecosystem. But I think the feel good memories that I’m creating now as with our, with my family are what I’m looking forward to. Uh, because now it’s like we have our hometown, our like little main street and like I realize that trick or treating and walking them down the street into the, some of these like stores or restaurants will be a memory that they’ll have for the rest of their lives. Yeah. Driving through a couple years ago through, through Wyckoff. I was like, Ugh, I, I go, shooting that documentary. It was like, felt really uncomfortable being back looking at the church, and now we’re like laughing because I think it was like the head pastor, like we, we just, I think, I don’t know if they, they didn’t know we were gonna like go and like, take pictures and they were freaking out that we were gonna like, try to walk into the front doors, which we wouldn’t anyway. So they were like, we’re calling the cops, and we’re like, what’s going on? Did they threaten to call the cops on you? It was wild. We were, we pulled into the, I think the parking lot just to like huddle and figure out where we’re gonna shoot. Yeah. This guy was like, he’s like, the brothers are here again. No. Yeah. They must have seen the doc. I don’t think for, actually, I don’t know if they knew that it was us or not. It’s just a large group of cars. I mean, it was like six cars and SUVs. It’s quite intimidating. Yeah. But regardless, like going back and being able to like realize. Um, some of those like core memories mean a lot, even actually like LA to me was that. What, what place feels like home for you that you return to now and there’s immediately that sense belonging question? I, I don’t really know. Um, we’ve been moving around so much over the last couple years. Yeah. My wife’s shot in London a bunch, so we spend some time there. We, we technically live in LA but we’ve, we’ve been in New York for six months ’cause I was doing a Broadway show out there. I think we’re definitely craving like a real sense of like planting some roots somewhere, but just based on how much we’ve been moving around, that’s been kind of tough to, to figure out. Yeah, no, that makes sense. Uh, uh, another part of the doc that I love is when you talked about how before getting the band back together, you had to relearn how to be brothers again. Was the key to that letting go of history or like actually embracing history in a way? Um, or similar but different? Yeah, I think kind of both. Um, you know, we had to certainly, like do some healing and, and have some tough conversations. And then we also just had to create new memories together and, and better times that that weren’t work related, that were just us being family. Yeah. Did you have any like first awkward hangouts where it was just like, we’re going to play mini golf. It’s like, what do we do now? We were shooting the documentary when we were like really speaking to some of the, the, the tough conversations. Yeah. ’cause you’d be like, sit down like this and be like, all right, so let’s get into it. What about, this was really complicated. Yeah. Yeah. What, we haven’t really spoken in two weeks here. Um, we went to Cuba actually. Like we were down there and we just went to hang. Mm-hmm. And we’re like, I think we were, at one point we realized it was getting too, it was too much like an interrogation, like sitting in a room with a camera and having to have these conversations. We’re like, we actually haven’t had that internally yet. We’re doing it on camera. It felt weird. Yeah. Yeah. So I think for me, Cuba was like, was like, wow, we’re just hanging out and exploring together, seeing a place that we’ve, none of us have been. It was nice. I, I think there was a moment in a stairwell in Cuba where you were all just playing and singing together. But I’ve heard you talk about, but did you feel that like power in that moment as well? I was already on board. I was like, let’s go. But decision maker Kevin. No, like, I was just like, if we can make this happen again, this would be great. But Joe was definitely not, uh, there yet. You know, DNC was going on. Nick had put solo stuff. Mm-hmm. You know, I was not exactly doing the music thing in my own personal life, uh, as a solo component. So to have the option to come back and be back on the road or make music together again was great in any capacity. Whether that was just like a one off tour or whatever, just to do something. Then to see Joe’s kind of like the energy shift in that time we were in that stairwell in Cuba was, uh spectacular. Yeah. How does your relationship to nostalgia influence your new music? ’cause there is a lot of like nostalgic sounds in it. Yeah. Um, like, love me to Heaven, I, the first couple seconds when the guitar comes in, it just makes me smile ’cause it sounds so Springteen-y. And like knowing and seeing that checkered tablecloth in the album cover. Knowing how much Jersey means to you, how has that changed your actual sound of the music? We got to tap into a lot of the kind of influences that, that, you know, our dad raised a on, so Springsteen, Bee Gee’s, which our current single has, uh, an interpolation of the Bee Gee’s song, which is super fun. It’s really nice to kind of touch back, not only on, on the themes that we’re speaking about, but on, on these musical influences. And, you know, Jersey is a, is a huge part of that. And Springsteen as, as you mentioned, is very apparent in a few of the tracks on the album. And, you know, hoping to bring that to life with the, the show too on the tour. Yeah, our father, you know, he raised us on so many incredible artists. He would play us Carol King and, um, James Taylor and a lot of bands that harmonized like Bee Gees and Fleetwood Mac, and, and we thought that was normal. So it was kind of cool to be able to, to kinda get back to those more simpler days for us that were like driving around in a minivan listening to those songs. It’s nice to kind of reflect on that now. Well, I can’t wait. To go see your show. I’m coming, right? You’re bringing me out on stage? Yeah, please. Well stage maybe. But you’re cooking show. The first a live cooking demo from Josh. Yeah, I think we should do it. My day rate is zero, so let’s do it. Even better. For the second course of your final meal on Earth, Nick, we have your steak and eggs. Steak and eggs. The entire bottle of A1. You can just, the entire bottle. Just put that on ice if you want it. Kevin, we have the Entrecote Frites From Realis de Venis in Paris. Look at that. And then Joe, for your surprise, we have Mama Jonas’s Taco soup. Taco soup. Wow. Wow. The amount of pure joy in your eyes, Kevin was like I said, taco soup. Whoa. Oh, definitely smells legit. I picked the wrong data to have a little bit of a stomach issue, so. You’re fine. This is, uh, yeah, it’s gonna be fun. The collective groan from the audience. I’m just gonna level with you, that’s what’s going on. So I’m looking at all this food, like I might have to take it home, but what is this? I would please, ironically, your first course, you were talking about a place in London and the first time we went to this restaurant Relais De la Venise, was in London. And like it was such an interesting experience. Like you walk in, everyone’s a little mean to you. Yeah. Um, they hand you a salad that has got this like, incredible dressing on it that you’re not sure what’s in it. Then they ask you, how would you want your steak cooked? They literally write it on the table, medium well done, you know, w whatever. And then, uh, steak arrives. Then there’s second helpings. It’s my favorite restaurant ever. Just schlop ’em off. Schlop em, schlop it on. Schlop it. Oh God, that looks good. See ya. And then Nick Steak and Eggs as well, which is gonna be great. That’s just because it’s the, the simplest and best thing. You can order it kind of anywhere. Well, sauce is very close. You’ve been described by all of you, including yourself as a person with the fanciest tastes of the brothers. Do you have the fanciest taste in food? ’cause it doesn’t seem like that so far. No, I, I’ll pretty much eat anything. My wife is Indian obviously, so we love Indian food, love Thai food, love steak and egg. Of course, keeping it simple. But yeah, I mean, we like to, to try just about anything. And then naturally, our mother’s taco soup, we grew up with a lot of Crock Pot meals, large batch, you know, there’s four boys in the house. We had so much like extra activities like, you know, school, then we had Nick running to Broadway and then Joe, you know, doing Broadway as well. I was doing commercial, but like there was always food in the house, whether it was breakfast, lunch or dinner. But there’s so much of it and so we, but there was always like large format food. And this is one of them. Good. Uh, can you pass the A1 please? Uh, Nick, what’s the connection to A1 steak sauce? A1 steak sauce. Um, you can basically put on anything that makes everything taste incredible. So that’s the connection. And yes, I do carry like a little packet around in my bag. And, uh. Some carry hot sauce. If a meal like at a, a random city isn’t quite up to to par, throw that on it and it, it’ll get there. I love that so much. Did any of you have any annoying eating takes growing up around the dinner table? Like my brother used to take a whole loaf of French bread that was meant for the family and hollow out in the middle and eat it and just leave us with crust. Which one of you was– That seems problematic. Thank you so much. Um, could never really have bananas in the kitchen. Kevin would freak out. Hates the smell. Hate it. Have you gotten the– Hate it so much that hate it so much that I pretended to have an allergy, so it would stay away from me. Wait, have you figured out why you hate fruit so much? No. Is it psychological? Is it physical? Past life? Maybe. Maybe, maybe. Um, there people, the past lives, Cleopatra’s last meal was, was a plate of figs. You could’ve been Cleopatra. Maybe I do. I don’t really know. Do you believe in past lives? Absolutely not. No. No. And I kind of wish I did believe more in things, but I know all three of you have gone on like very different spiritual journeys. Mm-hmm. How different are your answers? Assuming any of you have found any answers? Yeah. I, I think I believe in, in past lives and reincarnation for sure. My wife, you know, I, I dream about seeing her in the next lives. Um, and in fact it’s like the kind of thing that like makes me feel. Some sense of peace. ’cause this time that we’re allowed here is so short in reality, it’s encouraging to think that maybe there’s, there’s more, you know. But we also grew up with real, like Christian, you know, conservative values and, and biblical teachings and, and, and all that. And I think as we got older, we all had our own sort of journey with deconstructing a little bit. That word is, you know, it gets, it gets used so often and it, it, like, I think has different connotation. Um, then what I mean by it, and that’s to say that like I had to really just get to the core of like what Jesus was saying and focus on that because some of the, the religious parts of it are exhausting and actually contradictory to what, what God was saying, what Jesus was saying. Um, well said. So, I don’t know. That’s my, my hot take there. There’s, there’s good in everything. If you, the focus is on love and compassion and empathy. Yeah. What about you? How has your like spiritual journey manifested? It’s con it’s continually going all the time, right? Like I think that is part of it. Your spiritual journey is a relationship with you and God and the continuation of your growth and your relationship there is how you are going to see the world, and now I’m seeing it through my daughter’s eyes and how do I want them to you know, be raised and what values will I take from how we were raised and impart that into their lives and, and understand that humans are humans and my relationship with God and my, my beliefs are far greater than the acts of man. Yeah. But a lot of people take solace in that certainty. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Of like, this is how it is, and I can follow the letter of the law. Did you ever have that solace and then miss it once you got more uncertain? Um, that’s a great question. Yeah. I, well framed I think. Yeah, that there’s a disorienting feeling, um, that can happen when you go, okay, this was my, my north star. This was the, the, the mandate, right? Yeah. And for a lot of people in, in the Christian faith, I think that moment comes in your teens and, uh, your early twenties when you’re starting to make real adult or adult-like decisions, you have to sort of look at what you’re reading or what you, what you’ve been taught and say, do I actually like, believe that? And you know, you get to a point where you just say, yes, I’m all in, or, uh, I’m gonna take the things that, that are good from this that’ll, that’ll make my life more balanced or, or make me a better person and proceed, you know? Yeah. Um, but there’s there’s good and bad in all of it. Yeah. Do you like the uncertainty? Do you like getting to figure it out? I think, I think that’s part of it, actually. Mm-hmm. I think that there’s, I think there is some kind of peace in the uncertainty that you actually can make those decisions and make those underlying discoveries for yourself. Yeah. Um, I think with believing in Jesus and feeling that way I have for my entire life, it’s an amazing thing to feel when it’s. Your own decision and not something that’s put on you by your parents or the way you were raised, or it’s just about how you want to live your life. And I think like Nick kind of said, which was, it’s about the, what he said. Yeah. More than it is about the religious acts, you know? So yeah. How, how did you all avoid the Hollywood cliche of like small town Christian boys moved out to Hollywood, got corrupted. I mean, did you guys like surely dealt with a lot of that, right. We were just kids trying to navigate the. Growing up. Yeah. In a very, what’s the globe? I’m thinking of Snow Globe. No cater projection, sure. Bubble. All of those things. You know, I think the idea that we, people assumed that we had it all figured out and we were just figuring it out as we went and trying to understand. What it was, and then like you’d say something or somebody would ask a question, you’d say, yeah, that, that’s what I believe in. But not until you got much older, you realize like, actually I didn’t know what I was saying, or I was just a kid trying to, I thought that was the right thing. Once we started kind of getting to know ourselves better, and you start to kinda understand who you are as an individual. You’ve already said those things and you’re like, well, that doesn’t define you. They give everyone, when they’re like 16 or 17 or saying certain things or, um, learning about themselves that. Those things probably are gonna change. Kind of to answer your question, I think it was really incredible that we had each other to lean on and be able to check in and be like, how are you? How, how are we doing? That was such a joy to be able to have that experience and not rely on just doing it on your own and meeting people along the way and saying, these are, oh, I met this person I really like, they’re my best friend now. And you’re living in la. I can’t imagine what that’s like for a young pop star out there to navigate being an adult when you’re a kid is tough. Yeah. A hundred percent. Um, when you were growing up and you know, your dad almost got like forced outta the church, basically. I know all three of you have roughly talked about the idea of being afraid that something is going to be taken away from you. Right. The, the feeling that this house of cards is all going to come falling down one day, and that’s such, I think, a dangerous feeling to have because you never actually like live in the moment. Mm-hmm. Do you three have like fundamental differences in how you remember certain moments in time? Oh, yeah. Almost every single event. Like, we’ll, we’ll hear each other speak in interviews. Yeah. And, and two of us will look at each other like, like they, even the. Breakfast burrito. They both were like, were those real? And I was like, I thought, yeah, I think so. Now you’re making me question my, my own reality. And there’s also gaps in my memories. Like, I have time. Can they fill in the gaps? Or they’re just gone? I, we fill in these gaps sometimes. Yeah, maybe. But like there are times where I’m like, I don’t remember like a whole window of our touring life as some, like, I cannot like do, it was moving so fast. Yeah. That I think there are times where I’m like, I, it takes me a minute to like really like. What happened? When was this? Like it’s pretty crazy. Well, I wanna ask if you remember this photo. Because we gotta clear up some rumors in the air right here. That’s you three. My wife, Julia Levy Cher. No way. No way. I was like, who is that? 2007 Macy’s Day parade. She took a picture with you. She said that you were all absolutely wonderful. And that, um, she actually passed by. And Nick, you doubled back and said, oh no, she wanted a picture. Can we grab one? And then you did. Look at you. Wow. But then, and that’s the backlash. That’s why I’m her favorite. Well, here, here’s the thing. Uh oh. She posted this on MySpace. Her friends started a rumor, Nick, that you and her were not only dating, but going to get married. Whoa. So the Long Island Middle School. It was a buzz. That’s a big rumor. That’s a big rumor. I want you to clear the air right now. Why did you end the relationship and why won’t you marry my wife? Why won’t you marry my wife? Is she not deserving of it? Nick, um, past life, you know, it was a past life. For the final course of your final meal on this earth, we have the pumpkin pie. We have the Vacherin du Relais. From [jumbles french words]. You did it. We’ll bring it back. We have the vain de relays from relays to Vernice in Paris. One of the truly most stunning desserts on the planet. And then for the surprises we have, we have the Texas sheet cake, oh, come on now. And then. Ants on a log. Just log. Kevin, for Kevin. Thank you very much, Joe. Just ants for me. You don’t do celery or peanut butter? I just don’t really like it. When I saw Kevin, you know I saw that you had you customized it. Yeah, we customize it for ourselves. I like it. This is incredible. Yes. I feel like we have to start eating this because there’s fresh hot fudge poured on top of it. You wanna cut into it guys over there? I feel like should you do the honor since it’s all, there you go. Nick, Nick! Oh, there you go. Sorry. I yelled. You gotta, you gotta. You just gotta go. Wow. Yes. Destroy kinda like, oh my God. Oh, it’s perfect. Could we scale the confidence with which you all just did that was incredible. Holy shit. Oh, we can say shit. Yeah. Damn. Shit up. What, what did, uh, she used to say? Shit damn butt ass hell. That’s right. Who said that? Um, yeah. No context. Just Felicia. Felicia Colada. Shout out. Mm. Our Fifi, um, she was essentially our first like assistant. Why do you say it like that? Yeah. Kevin, why do you say like that? I don’t know, actually, you’re right. She was our first assistant. Yep. Um, and didn’t wanna sound pretentious, but you know what, we have an assistant, um, and she would say that. Head ass, butt ass shit ass. What was it? Shit ass butt. No shit. Damn. Butt ass. Hell shit. Damn. Shit damn butt ass. Hell, when she was really upset. Our dad used to go shoot. Crap. This has made me, um. It’s very emotional. Well done. I just had this like two days ago ’cause my mom was at her house and she made it. Oh my God. Every birthday still. Oh wow. Our mom makes me less. Every pumpkin pie on my birthday. Yeah, we’re not cutting. I’m gonna take that home with me and have some of that later. Believe it. We can take the whole, you can take the whole pumpkin pie home. We’ll put a birthday candle in it for you. Perfect. Why do you have– Pumpkin birthday to me. Happy early birthday. I am gonna have some, sorry. So do I just put this? You put it down. Okay. Like, well, like one bite. One bite. I feel one bite. I’m gonna taste, I’m wanna taste the corner so you have the rest of it. That’s like a happy birthday. Why pumpkin pie on your birthday when your mom’s making such delicious Texas sheet cake. Because that was for Joe’s birthday. Yeah, seasonal. My birthday’s in September. And then, um, this thing ants in a log, ants in a log. Well we have this backstage, so I think it’s nostalgic for us, but it is a bit sweet. It is dessert like and um, you can always walk. Yeah. I mean, peanut butter’s sweet. Mm. What kind peanut butter do you buy? Peanut. Peanut butter’s not sweet. Peanut butter has a ton of sugar in it, doesn’t it? I’d say peanut butter’s not sweet. There’s not, typically people think of it as sweet ’cause you pair it with sweet things a lot, but then if you go to like different country, yeah. I defer to it the chef. Thank you so much. How did ants on a log end up becoming the thing? Because how many years has this now been like in your? Forever. Like 20 years basically. Since the start of the band. The reason that it’s so good is ’cause I’m a type one diabetic. Mm-hmm. So it’s a little bit of protein. It’s the healthier of snack options that you could find. Yeah. Um, and it also makes us feel like we’re back in touch with our childhood. Like it’s sort of sweet to be in our thirties and, you know, 20 years into our career. And to be seeing this still at the shows, it means a lot to me at least. Look at my lonely ants on the plate. Get after it. You think it’s sweet? I figured out. Can I try? Can I try? Is it sweet because of the raisins. The raisins are sweet. I’m eating whoevers this is, I didn’t realize– Snd that’s why I don’t think it’s sweet because there’s no raisins. I think this is my single least favorite food on the planet, I haven’t eaten it in probably 20 years. And this is not, uh, celery, uh, raw celery in general, but then I think it gets worse with the peanut butter and raisin. Is this peanut butter, is this the almond butter when you guys go with the almond butter I get really lost. It’s peanut butter, but I haven’t had this much in years. Oh, it’s so good though. It’s loud food. It’s a very loud food. ASMR-y food. Feels healthy, but I’m, I’m seeing the vision, but it is like, um, if you put it on anything other than celery, I do feel like it would be better. Mm-hmm. I feel cucumber, peanut butter, carrot with anything else? A sandwich. You know, something? A sandwich. My kids just discovered, uh, fluff. Oh no. Yeah, it, that’s dangerous. Basically, it’s marshmallow, right? Like totally. It’s just, but it, that’s a one and done. Oh, this was a one. They don’t sell it anymore is what I’m going with. Yeah. How much do you all lie to your children? ’cause I’ve heard that that’s like the key to parenting. I try not to lie to them at all. I lied a lot. Yeah. He lies all the time. There. There are times you have to sort of given alternate truth. Redirect. Redirect. Yeah. Bribing a three and a half year old to like get off the iPad is, is a thing. It’s a fair game and uh, it takes a lot of focus. Hmm. And, um, self-belief, but we can get it done. Humbling. Humbling. Yeah. I mean, are you lying to the kids? I try. I try not to. You’re not, I hope they’re not watching this, but, you know, there’s a few characters that we all get presents from. They may think exist character. Sure. So that, that would be, um. A healthy fib, I think. You talking about Santa Clause? I was talking about somebody else, but you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. There’s a whole, he’s real. It’s one of, he’s real, obviously it’s one of the Labubu’s delivery spread. Yes. Good. It’s crazy. No. Yeah. It’s the Maco Maco, Maco. Was the one that actually, yeah, Labubu is the one that extracts the teeth. I’m, I’m very deep in that phase right now. Oh, I love that for you. What, what is it? I’m, I’m just getting hip to this. It’s from, it’s, it’s an actual, it’s actually kind of cool. It’s like an art, it’s a thing, it’s an artist that created this really beautiful like, storybook and like art, like highend art. And then said, you know what, I’m gonna team up with this, uh, pop mart and make toys. And it just started going off like collectibles. And so then I watched, I watched a TikTok on this, on what the history is, Uhhuh, so I know this. And then, uh, Lisa from Blackpink. Was talking about her favorite things. And she talked about Labubu’s and outta nowhere billion dollars later. Kevin, how much have you spent on Labubu’s? And does your wife know that you’ve done this? I have not spent a single dollar on labubu’s, my daughter has, so she has saved up all her money. She buys these things on stock X with her debit card. Wow. And she’s like negotiating on there, like putting in bids. Like she’s like, dad, it’s not really worth 75, but with shipping it comes up to 85. What do you think I should do? I said, don’t buy it. Okay. It shows up. Welfare. You gave me the advice, Nick, you said that like once you had kids, everything else in the world felt like it didn’t matter anymore. And I feel like a lot of people, especially in highly competitive entertainment fields, right, like when you’re young success, whether it’s monetary, whether it’s fame, seems like the number one thing in the world. Mm-hmm. Do you think that having kids reframed that in your mind. Or do you think it was just like wisdom in getting older? Um, I think having kids made me a lot more focused on building something that, um, that they will be really proud of. Mm-hmm. Um, you know, both from a creative standpoint and also from, you know, just setting up life. You know, you’re met with this reality that like this little human being will depend on you. Yeah. You know, at least until they’re 18, hopefully. For the rest of their life. And that responsibility is, is a profound thing. And, um, something that, you know, prior to that, I think I was just focused on sort of benchmarks of success or perceived bench benchmarks of success. And now I have a more tangible thing to, to look at, uh, and, and base my decision making off of. Um, and it’s just everything is better too. I mean, once you. Once you, you are doing it for that reason, and, and you get to experience life again through the eyes of a child. It’s like, you know, you, you don’t realize perhaps how far we, we drift from that as we get older and, and with this sort of benchmark of success or, or goal, it’s like just about your family being good. Yeah. Being happy. And that’s a, that’s something we could, we could all realistically achieve. Mm-hmm. You guys initially broke up in 2013, reunited in 2019. It’s now been as much time since you’ve broken up, then you were broken up. Oh, wow. I’m curious which six year period felt longer, the time when you were broken up or reunited? Definitely break, broken up, I think I would say. I agree. Probably I, I, I would say the other way around. Um, but that’s, that’s only honestly ’cause of COVID. Like I just feel like mm-hmm. Life got really. Mm-hmm. Fast and slow. It’s like everything just was, I don’t know. Like we all went into a, a crazy vortex. I think the time apart felt longer for me, um, personally, just because I just had my first daughter. Mm. And so like, it was a very new environment, um, right away. Like the band broke up and then three months later we had Alina. So it was like a whole nother world had just been created. So like that time feels much more expensive. I felt like the time away from them, I, I missed so much. ’cause it was, it was really special. Once we started hanging out as a family, it was like really nice. It was like, oh man. Like there’s familiarity there. I remember like Nick and I kind of got into like a argument and hours later we were fine. And I remember a friend of the time was like, what? I don’t get it. He’s an only child. And he was like, how is that possible? I thought we were supposed to be mad at him now. No, we’re good. We were, we were laughing. I was like, what? I was like, and so I feel really grateful that I have that dynamic with these guys. Yeah. Um, and yeah, we appreciate things way more now. We do these amazing kind of, even like today, this is so special. Like, how unique is this experience? And sit here and talk with you about life and, and get deep. It’s like my, our favorite, we’re saying favorite kind of promo days because you forget what you’re talking, what you came here to talk about, but you’re actually talking about stuff that matters. Mm-hmm. And I’m like, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the important stuff you’ll see later and you can click on it, but I think it’s nice for us to be able to sit and talk about why we’re still doing this. You know? Yeah. The amount of like honesty, when I, when I watched the 2019 doc, like the amount of raw honesty that you all showed with each other, I, I’m not getting, like, it inspired me to call my own brother, like, you know, we’ve gone through our own ups and downs in childhood, who hasn’t, but legitimately since I watched that, I’ve been calling my own brother on a random Tuesday and just talking for an hour, and so it’s meant a lot because you do show. The sides that you actually have to work through. It’s not perfect and everyone knows that. And I wanted to ask about your relationship to the 2013 breakup. ’cause you were the one that, you know, was like the, the impetus behind it. Do you have any residual guilt and do you have any residual resentment towards that? Even if it is like the smallest little thing? Um, not guilt so much as, um, in reflection. You know, I can definitely see how I could’ve. More lovingly communicated something that needed to be said. It’s often how we say things that matters more than what we’re saying. You know? I think we all knew that, that in the operating system that we were operating in, it, it, it was, it had run its course. Yeah. But, um, just didn’t know how to maturely like, articulate that and, and lovingly do that. Um, what about you guys? Do you, do you still have, uh, resentment towards me? No, I’m glad you brought it up. That’s why we’re here today. Um, that for my final surprise. My final surprise… a knife! Guilt, um, I, I think it needed to happen and I think we all grew from that experience so much and it was important for us to be able to like, realize, yeah, okay, we were having such a difficult time just being real with each other back then. That we had to take these kind of moments to be like a proper breakup of saying, uh, I’m sorry. I don’t wanna do this anymore. Yeah. And now it’s like we can communicate way better because we’re able to be like, all right, we, we don’t need to be scared to have tough conversations. Hey Kevin, you said something about the most important words you learned. We’re saying like, I’m not comfortable, which I thought was really powerful. ’cause I think so many people refuse to sort of say. That in life of just saying like, I need to communicate my needs right now. Do you think you, you all three are like in that point where you can just say anything completely, openly? Not all the time. I think within, within reason, but I think when there’s a true need, I think we, we always bend together and we come to each other and I think we’re brothers first. I know that’s a little cliche to say, but we truly are, you know, I think there was an emergency of any capacity or there was really something that was happening. I think I could lean on them in a heartbeat. Yeah. You know, it’s such a trip. Like you guys have had such long careers. You’ve accomplished so much. There’ve been so many different eras in all three of you, all four of us in fact. Yes. All Frankie and here. All five Jonas brothers right now. Yeah. But no, you all have so much life left to live in so much, you know, whether it’s career, whether it’s family, whatever. What do you ultimately want your legacies to be by the time you do kick the bucket? I’m so proud of everything we’ve done, so I don’t, I don’t really feel like there’s milestones that we’ve yet to accomplish. Like I think if we did this for awards and that was our like mission, we would’ve quit a long time ago if we do this because it makes people feel good and we, we help others through the power of music. There’s so many people we’ve met and you perform it every night and you see like. How a certain song affects them. Mm-hmm. And you’re like, that’s why we’re doing it. That’s like, how lucky are we? Like that’s, that’s what a what a gift. If this was like we were hanging up the hat, hopefully we don’t, but I’d be like, look, this is so incredible that we were able to mm-hmm. Kind of almost be in the Hall of Fame of New Jersey. I think my headstone, whatever would be like. I wanna be a good friend, like to my brothers, to my family, to my friends. Like I just wanna be a true friend. And sometimes that requires being there when you’re not wanting to be. And sometimes it’s, you know, sacrificing time. And sometimes that just means being present in all things. And I just hope I can be a good friend to everyone in my life. I love that. I think that the thing I would hope people would say about me. Um, is that my, my door was always open and that, that I, whatever I have to give and, and, and, um, emotionally and, and physically, I, I, I want to give to my friends, my family, you know, of course my daughter. Um, you know, I, I, I literally just recently I finished this Broadway show and I got all these cards from… Oh god, I’m gonna cry. I got all these cards from, uh, co-stars and folks on the show, and they all said, thank you for your generosity. It meant a lot. Yeah. Um, it was like a really tough experience. And then just like, yeah. So often we think about that like financially, but like I knew, I knew what they meant was about my spirit and you know, time. Yeah. My hard work like that says more. That’s really beautiful. Got me to cry. That’s the final surprise of the day. Blow the sand into his eyes. Yeah. Now you know what I put in the taco soup. You guys ready to get in the lightning round? Yeah, please. Who’s the one person dead or alive you’d wanna share your actual last meal? We’ve heard this from him. This is just for you two. Uh, my wife. Hands down. Julia Levy Scherer. Same answer. His wife? No, my wife. My wife. Which one are you married to? Like that. That’s like, how do you not say that? Kevin, this one specifically for you. How do you feel about Mondo Deplantis breaking his own pole vault world record for the 12th time in Stockholm last month? I watched it. It was incredible. So proud of him. It’s insane. I like, maybe one of these days they do like Senior Olympics. Not even, they call it masters, they call it. ’cause I have the same dream masters. That’s cool. Of picking up the discs. They call it Masters 40 plus. Okay, let’s get into it. How many you’re, you’re there now? 40 what? 33? No, do like a, so we got like we can be on a team together. Okay. I’m so in dude. And how do you kept it like you get to 15, like you can go D one. Yeah, no, I absolutely, I was, and that was only set for my school. Didn’t even have a pole vaulting like facility. I had to go to another school and only got to do it once a week. My first time ever actually doing it, like holding it, running it into a thing was at a meet. That’s insane. That’s pretty cool. I took first place. Did you? I told everyone. I was like, I’m gonna talk to Kevin about pole vaulting. I just don’t know when. He’s so thrilled, so glad. It’s called Masters at 40. Okay. Yeah, yeah. We’re, we’re gonna do it, uh, for Nick and Kevin. What song do you wanna be played at Your funeral? Let it be. By? The Beatles. Was that a quiz? You never know. Okay. This, um, it happened earlier. There’s a lot of covers out there. I’m extremely bad. I’m extremely bad at naming songs. I don’t know what it is. It’s a, it’s an anxiety ridden hangup. I did it and like– Name a Britney Spear song. Toxic. There you go. You did it. You’re fine. Okay. I can always name Britney. Name, A brit–, Backstreet Boys song. Uh, show me the meaning of being lonely. Name a two for two. Name A Kings of Leon Song. Uh, sex on Fire Name a Jonas Wither song. No, I thought it was brothers. Okay. It was like Attorneys General. That was Brothers Jonas. Um, mine would be this song, how to Believe From The Tinkerbell Show on Disney Plus. ’cause my daughter sings it and it’s the very best thing. Uh, beautiful. Good call. This is crazy. That’s, man. Good. Cut. Um, pass back to Nick. Who’s your favorite [bleep] character to use as an alias? You. How do you know that? Follow you, the hotels. That’s wild. Yeah. So watch a lot of, I can’t use that alias anymore. Yeah, probably [bleep] right? I wrote down and why is it [bleep] you son of a biscuit. But that wasn’t the original answer. It’s not. But that’s even more layers of like, you’re inside my brain. You’ve never, that’s my character. It’s an incredible movie. It’s the best movie of all time. It’s the best movie. It’s amazing. Who’s your dream eulogize at your funeral? Oh wow. Just for all of us. For them. You like are, you’ve already answered these. Okay. You can answer again. I was just curious. Um, I was like, when did I just, do you wanna do, I’m enjoying, I’m enjoying. My daughters. I don’t wanna have to put them through that, but Yeah, sure. I would probably say you, you guys just don’t screw it up. Uh, Joe, this ones for you. Who’s your dream opponent for the road dog softball team to play? Oh, that’s a great question. Um, hot take. I never really loved being like, uh, waking up early to play softball on show days, but now I appreciate road dogs. Um, it would be probably cast of, um, what’s that movie where they’re like, I think Kevin, it’s, it’s when they’re all the motorcycles, they’re like, and um. It’s called Old Dogs or something? Yeah. Oh, wild hogs. Wild Hogs. I just feel like those guys know how to play softball. Yeah. Those guys that they’re playing Kevin characters. Yeah. Definitely knows how to play softball. No, that’s all. Is it true that your saxophonist once hit four home runs? Yes. Against Creighton, Randy Ellis. Randy Ellis. Just a slugger. What a crazy sentence your saxophonist has hit four home runs at. Yeah. Randy Ellis, he’s, uh, he played the sax and does real estate and rips, uh, home runs. For, for Kevin and Nick, what’s your biggest fear? Self-doubt. I do it a lot. I question every move I make a lot of the times and I get like people pleasing to the point where I get crippled and it becomes hard for me to function. So self-doubt. Letting people down. Yeah. Friends, family, all that. Yeah. Finally, for all three of you, are you happy? Very happy. Very, yes. Very. I’m incredibly happy. Like truly for, for your generosity. All three of you. Um, this has been absolutely fantastic, man. Thanks for Thank you. Thanks for bringing back. Absolutely. Thanks for having us back. I’m so glad. Thanks for having us back. So thanks for having us. Um, if you all wanna deliver your last words to your respective cameras, right there, my last words. Enjoy the ride. See you in the next one. It’s a callback to past lives. Well, I think his is a callback to wild hogs. Yes, it is. Tagline, I would say. Is that really the tagline? Wow. Hi everyone. Greetings from your hometown out August 8th. You got a big tour coming, Where are you going? We’re going to, uh, city near you. Here’s the list of the days. Hope to see you there. What did you do to this pie? Yeah, this I’ve seen American Pie. This is not appropriate. What happens? The perfect way to elevate all of your meals. The last Meals bar set is available now at mythical.com.