What was your first job that you ever had and what did you learn from it? >> My first big-time job was cuz I like I did like I was like an actor. >> I was like an actor. >> Like my first like acting job I had to say vagina on Two Broke Girls. I was hipster number two. But my first real job I used to hike dogs for a big dog walking company. >> You said you used to hike dogs. >> Yes. Not walk. >> Walk. >> Hike. >> Why were these dogs so outdoorsy? It was right when everyone was starting to buy like Australian shepherds and they were like living on Abbott Kiny in like studio apartments that were just like a mess and I for some reason said I was good at hiking. >> Never did a lot of hiking but like in the morning I would just pick up dogs, bring them all on a hike, drop them off and be done by noon. I was tying dogs to each other when I learned that I got paid per dog because if you got really because I’m not holding a bunch of leashes, Josh. That’s for losers. Okay. You would you would really go with these dogs that you would like I would hike for like multiple years. >> Mhm. >> They got used to me so they would go off leash and then I would tie the good ones to the bad ones. So the the good ones were walking the bad dogs. >> You vertically integrated your dogs to walk each other. >> Yes. >> That’s called leadership. That’s >> leader >> and that’s called leadership. >> Is that what you learned ultimately about life? >> Honestly, I’m going to take this really sad for a second. I realized I was in constant fear of pleasing people when I started working with dogs cuz there was a day where I was like I had a bunch of dogs. There was like 20. If I exceeded 15, it wasn’t safe to hike. >> So then I’d have to go to the dog park. And I once was sitting with just dogs and I felt so at peace and I remember going like, “No one’s mad at me.” >> Oh, >> I don’t worry. I’m not worried about what any of them think of me. Great. >> Yeah.