Did you think of adulthood as like a single thing? Like you arrive at adulthood and then you’re an adult for the rest of your life and it’s like you get off the train and then you’re just in adulthood >> and you just sort of sit in that train station of adulthood until the sweet embrace of death finally takes you. >> Yes. And I had a very specific vision of what that was. This is really sad. when I was like 13 years old. I imagine what it would like to be an adult and I imagine being 33 and I imagine being outside of a drab apartment building um picking up my child from my divorced wife >> like for visitation and I was like ah that’s adulthood forever and that’s fine. >> I thought of adulthood almost like a zombie virus that I had to try to outrun for as long as possible and like stay like uh outside of outside of the misery of adulthood and then eventually the zombies would overtake me and I would die. like not until I I I’d lived as much as I could, you know, and like >> turns out that adulthood is super interesting and that you continue to change and that the relationships that you have deepen. And so one of the things that eating this reminds me of is not just that like Sarah and I fell in love, but that Sarah and I kind of keep falling in love. That, you know, it’s almost like a cycle where you fall in love again and you’re reminded of those good times, but then you get to have more good times and they’re deeper in some ways because when you first get married or when you first are dating someone, you can’t know what it’s like to love them for 20 years because you haven’t. And uh it’s quite it’s quite magical.