Hi, everyone. I’m Meghan Trainor, and this is my last meal. Every person has exactly two things in common. We all gotta eat, and we’re all gonna die. Today, we’re joined by author, podcaster, and Multi-Platinum recording artist, whose new album, Timeless, comes out on June seventh. Meghan Trainor, welcome to the show. How did you memorize that? I got a weird brain. Sometimes it works good, and sometimes it doesn’t. You have written some of the biggest hits of the twenty-first century, but more importantly, I think you’ve written the greatest pickup line in history. Are you Spy Kids? Now, Meghan, were you born, were you born with that level of genius? Or was that created through hard work? Oh, you’re good. You study and you memorize. You don’t even slip up. Wow. Yeah. I had some liquid courage that night, and I had. I get so starstruck from everyone, you know, especially back then. I was like a baby songwriter out here in LA, like, trying to make it. And Spy Kids crashed one of the parties we were having. Like, no one invited him, and him and his friends showed up, and I was, like, I knew, but I was like, are you Spy Kids? And it worked. And we’re married and we have two kids. So. Have you thought about your last meal before? I think about my death a lot, yeah. Good. I think it’s healthy and normal. I watch a lot of those death row meals, too. And now I have kids, and I’m like, well, I have to live till I’m at least a hundred fifty, so I’m trying to biohack my body. Except the food I chose today is not gonna help me live longer. And I’ve been recently watching every episode you’ve done, and I realized that nobody sits on this side. So I was like, let me be the first. Also, this is my good side. You know? This is my better side. This is my better side. That’s right. I have two good sides. But this one, my good. Kind of set up this little dichotomy where you’re talking about biohacking. I imagine that means eating ultra healthily. Yeah. Like, in life, I don’t get to eat any of these foods that we’re about to have today. But isn’t that a bit of a paradox, though, where it’s like, you want to live longer, but in doing so, you’re making your life less comfortable? Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That’s why if I’m like, okay, if I get to know that I’m about to die, I’m gonna have all of this laid out in front of me. So, you would want to know your exact date of death, if you could? I want to go out like The Notebook, but I want to know more. I want them to be like, hey, you have until tonight. And I want to be a hundred and twenty. Laying next to my husband and my kids, all surrounding the bed with their grandkids, and we’re all hugging. And then I’m like, you know, I get to say goodbye and look at them all. And then me and my husband go, three, two, one. You know? I think you’ve done. Hold on, you’ve done. That’s the goal. You’ve done so much manifesting through your music. You need to write that into. That’s what my entire album’s about. Thank you so much for asking. Timeless is about how I wish I was timeless. I wish I could live forever and love forever, and have my family forever and ever. And I hope you do. You ready to eat? Thanks for bringing in my album June seventh. It comes out tomorrow. Okay. Meghan, for your first course. You know, we’ve had people request A five wagyu and caviar, but no, no, no. We have. No, no, no. The barbecue, twisted Fritos, the Snyder’s hard sourdough pretzels, movie theater popcorn. If you know, you know. With extra butter, please dig into the bounty and the feast here. Oh, I’m so proud of myself. Oh, God, these. Yeah, this was my entire childhood. And to me, that was a good snack. You know? It is a good snack. And it wouldn’t be one. It’d be four, easily. And, yeah, one time I ate, like, the first time I had these, I was driving with my older brother, and we stopped at a gas station and got these. And I was like, this is the best thing I’ve ever eaten. And then he was driving and looked over and was like, did you just eat that whole bag? And I was like, yeah. And he was like, don’t do that. And I was like, but I just did. They’re scientifically designed for you to not be able to stop eating them. Yeah. I remember when these came out, you and I would have been kids. Like, these were a relatively new product on the market. Oh, yeah. Hot in the streets. Hot in the streets. And my stomach hurt so bad. And then this is my favorite snack of all time. Is this like, you’re cozy on the couch or you’re eating this in the theater? This has become a problem at nighttime with me and my husband, where we make our little tiny bowls of popcorn in bed while we’re watching our favorite show. I’ve never, ever, ever, ever ate late snacks in bed, ever. Until I met love my life. And it wasn’t until we had kids we never ate in bed. Why is that? Just, like, one, dig in. Dig in, please. I can’t see these enough. I was waiting for you. No, no, no. It’s your last meal. Oh, my God. Oh, so much butter. Thank you, Chef. Wow. This is legit. Our chefs really worked hard here. They drizzled the butter by hand. I know. Was this like a hard? Individually popped each corn kernel. With a hair straightener. They sure did. You seem like somebody who really values the idea of coziness and comfort. And one of my favorite songs off of Timeless is called I Hate It Here. That is going to be running through my head at every party that I don’t want to be at. Was there one incident that inspired that song? All of the LA parties I was ever invited to in my whole career, I sent my older brother, and I was like, you represent the Trainors, and go ahead. That’s very medieval king of you. You, like, sent an emissary. Meghan sent her regards. But it got to a point where when people would see me, they’re like, where’s your fun bro? I was like, Ryan’s at home right now. Thank you. But that was so great for me to have him. But then he became an alcoholic, and now he’s sober for three years. Congratulations. The whole circle of life happened in you not wanting to go to a party. This is way. I gotta dig into these. Yeah. And these. This right here. When people were like, I like pretzels. If they showed me a skinny pretzel, I was like, that’s not a pretzel, babe. This is a pretzel. I wanna say one of the things that I most admire about you is how cavalierly you talk about poop. Oh, yeah. Because it’s hard for me, obviously. Fair, but no, you talk about poop a lot in your book, Dear Future Mama. And you tend to talk about a lot of gross things. You talk about a lot of things that people have a lot of shame about, despite being incredibly normal and common, whether that’s taking antidepressants while pregnant, whether that’s having OCD as a kid and peeling all the skin off of your thumb, things that everybody. Well, it really affected me because I grew up with that sense of shame, too. I had a lot of physical tics growing up. Still do. I always thought I was weird, and apparently other people don’t notice it. Similarly, with a lot of things about shame. Why do you think it’s so important to talk about poop? Because I feel like I was poop shamed on accident. Meghan, I’m so sorry. Thank you. You didn’t deserve that. I didn’t. I, like, never pooped in school, ever. Because I would have died. I felt like my body, I felt like I would have died if I did that, but I. Yeah. And, like, going in public and, like, being a young. I was nineteen, traveling the world. I remember crying because I had. I was so backed up because I was, like, living in an airport and living in hotels and living in public, and I was like, I can’t poop here. But then I’m not even. This is not an ad. Poo-Pourri saved my life. Spike the camera. Poo-Pourri saved my life. And they know. They know. They sent me some stuff, but I want to be more open about it and tell my body. I also learned that my body holds in really bad. I can hold it for, like, four days. And now my three year old is holding in his. Generational trauma. Generational trauma. Meghan, you can’t pass that on. I’m like, let it go, babe. Everyone poops. You know? That’s a new hit right there. Where’s T-Pain? Can we get a T-Pain feature on everybody poops? Let it go. Everybody poops. Yeah, that’d be really good. I have a pitch for you. I think you and I can go in together on this. I’ve had this thought for a long time. You get Poo-Pourri, you get Sunsweet prunes, you get the Squatty Potty. All on board for one big campaign. We call ourselves fluencers trying to destigmatize pooping. What do you say? Fifty fifty. I’m in. Fifty fifty? I’m in. Wow. I feel like the lawyer’s gonna be like. It’s gonna be eighty-five fifteen. Yeah, they’re like, that’s cute. I wanna talk more about. Oh, my God. I haven’t had these in, like, seventeen years. Eat, eat, eat, eat. I’m just gonna stuff my face. No, you keep talking. This is the loudest snack, though. I’m so sorry to the mic guy. Wait, can I? Crunch. Oh, wow. These are. I don’t know. I sound like a goat. It’s messy. Like. Yeah. How much of your music for you is a form of self therapy? I mean, you got a song called Bestie that is very much this ode to not just self love, but also like, hey, that toxicity is in there. Yeah. So, we gotta rewire it. She’s a bully. Wow. It’s just alarming that you know so much. It’s so crazy. No one does their research. Oh, my God. You know Bestie. Yeah. Well, I, like, accidentally did it with All About That Bass. I, like, laughed writing that song because I was like, no one will put this on radio. No one will play this. No one thinks like this. And when it blew up and everyone learned the song, I was like, I’m not alone? People feel like that, too? And I was like, duh. And then I saw years later, I’d be doing meet and greets, and parents would come to me and say, hey, you’re about to meet my daughter or my son. They wouldn’t leave the house until you put your song out. And I was like, my three minute song? That took me forty-five minutes? Got it. I have a superpower, and I have a job to do. And, my best friend told me one day, you’re so good at saying how we all feel, but something that we’re not so good at admitting out loud, you know? So, one day I’ll be like, you know? But, yeah. These pretzels are too hard. They’re too hard to eat. They’re all up in my teeth. How do you do this? How has Timeless helped you rationalize your fear of death? I feel like everyone nowadays has been close to or watched someone, like, even be told in one year, like, you have cancer, and then you’re gone. And I’ve just watched, like, one of my best friends lose their parent in, like, less than a year, and it was rattling. And I wrote this song right after because I knew the album would be called Timeless because of my fear. And that was happening all at the same time. But I also. I didn’t want to write a sad song. I wanted to write, like, the wedding song. You know? I try to never just be like, here’s a pure sad song. I try to relate it to as many people as I can, or flip it and be like, no, it’s actually a love song. You know? Yeah. I think that is something that’s so incredible, especially on Timeless, is that so many of them are just flat out bops, right? And even the ones where you actually listen to the lyrics, and it’s like, oh, God, this is confronting me with a bit of an uncomfortable truth that I didn’t know about, but, like, let’s groove to it. Yeah. When I played it for my label, they were like, that one’s doing what it’s supposed to do. And that’s what they said. I was like, thank you. You said that you haven’t dealt with a lot of loss in your own life, but you did have a fan named Jalisa that you posted about. What are you doing? I don’t know. We’re trying to make you cry. How do you know everything? But I know that you only laugh in uncomfortable situations. You don’t cry. My therapist says that, too. How do you know about Jalisa? You posted about her. Well, that’s fair. Yeah. But no. Did that give you any clues into your own grieving process? It was horrific. Because I am eating pretzels. Eat popcorn. It helps. She showed up everywhere. She was in the UK, and she showed up everywhere with full glam all the time, and was the nicest person to me. And we got to a place where we were friends, and I was, like, seeing her everywhere, and it was, like, the only real big loss I’ve had in my life, and it was devastating, and it’s just like, I hate you. I’m sorry. We were just supposed to eat Fritos. It’s okay. We were just supposed to eat Fritos. No one said anything about her. Oh, no. But I got read by the Long Island Medium, and she was like, there’s someone with blue eyeshadow. And I was like, my team was like, Jalisa. She would always come with full makeup on, and I didn’t know that she was suffering like that. But then it, like, woke me up that, like, I don’t know what any of my fans are going through. Like, as close as we can be with social media, like, we’re all struggling and just trying to make it. And that’s, like, what’s so cool about my songs is that it can bring us together. But that was, like, the most horrific thing. And I reached out to her family and tried because I couldn’t make it to the funeral, but I tried to, like, at least pay for it and make it a little easier for them, but they were like, we’re not gonna get to pay for a lot of things, so we would like to do this. And it was, it made me cry way more. And. Yeah. Thanks, Josh. No, thank you. No, that was beautiful. So, death doesn’t make sense to me, and. Yeah. And when I, I haven’t gone to the UK in a long time, but I’m going soon, and it’s gonna be different now. Because usually she’d be there. Do you sort of find yourself getting very emotionally attached to things in ways that you kind of wish you didn’t or do you want to let all of that emotion watch over. No. I’m an empath. I feel all. And Auntie Flow is here, so, we’ve been crying for days. Yeah. Eat the Fritos, Meghan. The Fritos make it better. The Fritos make it better. You ready to get into the second course? What else do you know about me? Meghan, for course number two of your final meal, we have a Dodger Dog. This is actually from Dodger Stadium. Shout out to KG, who went and grabbed it last night at the game. A large cheese pizza from Lucky’s. And then we. I love Lucky’s. We have a flight of ranch dressing here. We have your classic buttermilk. We have a Basil pesto. We have a little bit of yuzu miso chili oil. And then we have a tahini and cucumber ranch. My God. Dude, Tom Hanks was so, like, fancy with his. Mine is dogs. Well, tell me about the hot dogs. It’s the only reason why I go to sport games. I love a hot dog. Pizza has been in. Yeah, my family were pizza eaters. Like, that’s. We also have this weird thing in my family where me and my younger brother, we look at the pizza and we’re like, I get first dibs. And we study it, and we go, this is the best piece. And I’ll tell you why. You know? If you could study this pizza right now and tell me which one is the best, this is my version of the Long Island Medium. Okay, I got it. I think. I also have mine. Point to it on three. On three, two, one, go. It’s either a good sign or a bad sign. Oh, are we diving in? I think we should. Jesus. Before he broke it apart. This is a perfect piece. And I’ll explain. You get a little crunch down here. There’s not too much sauce in the way. There’s not too many things bugging you. And then up here, you get clean cheese. It’s a moment of clean cheese. Clean piece, you know? Which will lead you to the delicious, greasy, breakaway, where you get to more sauce into a perfect crust. That is a perfect portion of crust, and cheese together. This is like a topographical map. You’re like, you’re coming up the ravine. Minus, because of this. Reach the oasis, and then here’s your ridge line. And then you get to climb the mountain. It’s beautiful. That’s it. You are. Are you dipping in the ranch immediately? No. I always take a clean bite first to appreciate it and to be like, how is she alone? Oh, my God. That’s really great. My period is so happy. So is mine. Oh, yeah? We’re cycled up. We’re synced. You cycled up? We did it. Girl, we did it. Because that’s pretty fantabulous. I’ll switch it so the normal ranch. Yeah. Yeah. I ain’t said two. Okay. And then usually, I will sprinkle parmesan cheese across it if it needs it. This one’s pretty. Pretty fire. And a little ranch dip. Oh, yeah. I don’t know about the ranch dip. Whoa, that’s ranch. That’s homemade. That’s a Colby ranch. I dance when it’s good. That is good. I didn’t know about ranch with pizza until I was, like, nineteen. You just won Multi-Platinum. You just found out about ranch on pizza. Yeah. Incredible. The night I won a Grammy, we all came home and ate pizza with ranch. Get out of here. Everyone else was out partying, and I was like, I will be making love to my pizza. You were in, partying, making love for pizza. I’m gonna ask you, you obviously love your husband Daryl very much. Does it not bother you? Yeah, I do. He is a serial killer. Because he doesn’t use dips. Daryl, if you can shout and answer, I know you’re listening. Darryl, what’s wrong with you? I’m a plain guy. He’s a plain guy. Doesn’t like any sauce, any, nothing. Let me tell you what he eats at sushi. It’s so disturbing. Daryl, you’re valid, by the way. This is all for laughs. Thank you. No, yeah. Your feelings matter. You’re perfect, and your choices are perfect. He eats, he gets avocado roll. So it’s rice, avocado dry. That ain’t even bad. Because the avocado could be mushy. But one time at a restaurant, I was like, dip it. Touch the soy sauce. Dip it in. It might be better. And he was like, no. And I was like, just try it. And we got heated, and the waitress was like, you guys good? And I was like, no, we’re not good. He won’t try soy sauce. Yeah, I learned that quick. That was alarming for me. But this is when I got upset, is when he had a salad with no dressing, just grass. That’s heavy. Leaves. It works for cows. Cows are large and live a long time. And, you know. He’s an animal. I was like, please let me pour oil on it. Like, get something on it so it’s a little damp. And he was like, I like it like, this. And I’m like, makes no sense. But love him so much. It is very evident. And you have to, eat the hot dog. Eat the hot dog. I gotta stop yapping. And we gotta start eating hot dogs. I’m a dipper, though, so I make a pile of ketchup. Oh, yeah. Oh, the ketchup farts. Oh, my God. Yeah, I’m a dipper. Like, this is gorge, but every bite has to have the perfect amount of ketchup. Is this my OCD? What is this? No. My brothers are like, what do you mean, dip? I was like, every bite should have that much ketchup on it. Oh, my God. There’s nothing better. There’s nothing better than a tube of meat. Oh, my God. I’m gonna barf. This is gonna hurt. We’ve never had that happen on the show. We’re very excited. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, one more bite. Do you think differences in your and Daryl’s relationships makes you ultimately stronger? Because you talked about getting into parenthood from sort of different directions, whereas you grew up with a mother who you said was so loving and made parenthood sound so fun. Daryl grew up without a father in his life and initially didn’t want kids until he met you. Does that ultimately make you stronger as parents, or do you find friction within that? We talked about it a lot, because I was like, you nervous? You know, like, he never had an example of what a dad is. Like since that baby existed. He has been like, super dad, super dad, super mom. When I can’t be their, super parent. His therapist told him, you’re the parent that you always wanted, and never had. And he was like. His dad left them when he was, like, around one, and his anxiety was creeping up crazy when Riley was turning one, and he didn’t know why, and his anger and everything. And I was like, what’s going on? Like, let’s find the deeper meaning. And one day, he never cries. He finally broke down, like, a real cry where I was like, you good? Like, you okay? Like, rubbing his back, like, what’s up? And he was like, oh, this is the age that my dad left us. And I just couldn’t. I couldn’t fathom leaving Riley ever. You know? A lot of stuff comes up for you if you have, like, you know, a tough childhood, and you’ll be okay. And you’re, you have kids that are that age. Yeah. I have always similarly didn’t have a lot of good modeling for parents in my life. And I’ve always known that I wanted kids, but I’ve always thought it was a bit of a selfish reason to try and right those wrongs. And so it’s interesting in your book, Dear Future Mama, and, like, hearing you talk about how much you love your mother and how much you realized she struggled with a lot more than you knew that she did. I thought she was super mom. I thought she had everything put together and, like, was crushing, you know, but I didn’t know how hard it was, and so I never felt like my mom wasn’t there or like that she was struggling ever. So my mom was super mom and made it seem so fun and effortless and easy that I was like, oh, I’m gonna be just like her. I’m gonna be the most fun mom, hopefully. Do you ever see yourself having a little bit more anxiety because you’ve put that pressure on yourself to be just like her? My mom guilt is real. And was there the moment he came out or the moment I was pregnant, too, because I was on my antidepressants and was like, am I already messing up? You know? And I had gestational diabetes. So I was like, oh, I must have failed at something. Because I told the doctors, I was like, I had a Pop-Tart, and I’m so sorry. Like, I did this to myself. And they were like, no, babes. It’s genetics. And then I found out my grandparent, my grandma had it, and my mom had it. I was like, oh. Before my second pregnancy, I learned how to work out for the first time ever. That was incredible. And I learned how to eat healthier and enjoy eating healthier. And so I beat my genetics and didn’t have gestational diabetes on the second pregnancy. Hell yeah. But immediately, I was like, women are superheroes, and being pregnant is hard. So, I wrote that book to be like, you’re not alone. Meghan, for course number three, we got the California chicken cafe chicken Caesar wrap with extra caesar dressing on the side, and then, of course, these soup dumplings. Oh, get the facial in there. From Din Tai Fung. I was wondering if they’d be hot. With all of the chili oil, the black garlic, the soy, the ginger. My belly hurts. Yeah. I did take a mystery pill from your mom. Yeah, we got Ibgard. If you don’t know about Ibgard, I’m not sponsored. It’s a great pill that helps any tummy aches. It’s magic. Tell me about the chicken Caesar wrap. This is like a fantastic. Classic. Like, I love it. Have you seen, they be doing this now, online, I saw this. On the line. On the line? The internet. The internet. The world wide web. Showed people are making pizza with a chicken Caesar salad in the middle of it. They’re baking in the middle or they’re folding? Caesar salad pizza. I love that. And it looks like that should have been here. You put a brownie in there and a boneless buffalo wing, and you got all four courses. The brownie’s out of place, but yes. Do I have to eat this? Okay. You get to eat. I get to eat it. This is your last meal. Never get to come back. This is. I am not eating anymore today. It’s a wrap. Oh, my God. I have, like, so many interviews after this. Here I go. I know, I know. Deep breath. Sort of a metaphor for overindulgence leading to lack of gratification. You read so many books. You sound so smart. Speaking of books, in Dear Future Mama. Okay. No. You talked about the overwhelming joy of getting pregnant. You always knew that you wanted to. You cried in a diaper aisle in Target when you were twenty-two. But then you also said, Meghan, there was an overwhelming sense of fear that you had ten to twenty-five percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage, how do you balance that immense joy with that immense fear? How do you not let the fear dominate and take over? Every single night, I rubbed my belly and said, please stay with us. I was like, hey, stick around. We love you. You know, it’s like. It’s really tough. And my second pregnancy, I had friends that were pregnant at the same time as me. Like, go through a miscarriage at eight weeks, you know, like, right with me. And I was like, oh, no. You know, and then. But no, that twelve week wait is the worst thing ever. And then when you get through it, it’s the greatest thing ever. And they’re like, you shouldn’t tell a lot of people you’re pregnant. I told everyone. Yeah. The second I was pregnant, but my second pregnancy, I got, like, a COVID vaccine, and I felt so ill, like I had the flu. And I was like, oh, it must be that vaccine. But I was trying to get pregnant, and I got my period again. And I performed on Fallon. I performed Made You Look on Fallon. And I did a TikTok like. When you get your period during sound check. But in fact, turns out that I was conceiving a child. You conceived your child on Fallon? Yeah, I told. Daryl, where’d you guys do it? Nope. It takes, like, days. Oh, sorry. It’s science. So it was like, a week before. Okay. I was, like, on that couch, or? I thought it was a full period, though, so then a month later, I felt horrible, and I was like, dude, I must have the flu. And I took a pregnancy test, and I was like, oh, my. Like, it lit up so fast. I was like, it’s twin girls. I know it like, it is. I am so pregnant. And then that morning, I was, like, stoked, beaming a joy. I videotaped it. I did interviews, and they were like, how are you? And I said, I’m thriving. Like, every, I was so happy. And then right before my last interview, I look down, and I’m gushing blood. How’s that for the food? Gushing blood. Like. Like, where are we at on a scale of? Okay, yeah, yeah. Get a close up. I ruined a chair. I go, oh, no. You know? And they were like, okay, Ryan Seacrest is on. Go. And I go, oh, my God. Hey, Ryan. And he’s like, how are you doing? And I was, like, thriving, you know? Like, never been so happy. And then did that whole interview, like, don’t cry, don’t cry, don’t cry. And then got through it, shut the computer, and was like, hey, team, I think I’m miscarrying right now. Like, in that moment. And I went to the bathroom and just, like, saw what was happening, and I was like, all right, I had a baby this morning, and now they’re gone. I was like, I’m just gonna keep testing. And the pregnancy stick still said positive. And I was like, well, that’s mean, you know? Like, she’s like, keep testing it. It’ll say negative soon. And then I got a blood test done, and it. It’s like, the number is zero if you’re not pregnant. My number was ninety thousand, and I was like, it’s twins. And they have implanted so aggressively in me that that’s what the bleeding was. They’re like betta fish. I’ve never told anyone this story. First looks. I don’t know. And then. And then the baby’s gonna be too small to see, so at six weeks. We’ll wait for six weeks. At six weeks, I went in. She went in and goes, whoa. That’s a ten week old baby. And I was like, I’ve been pregnant this whole time? You know? So I was pregnant ever since the Fallon performance, and I was like, we skipped a whole month, you know? But what a nightmare that was. What an incredible nightmare. What an incredible. A beautiful miracle. Rollercoaster. Like, I told everyone in the household, I’m pregnant. And then later, I was like, I lost it, you know, and it was horrific. And then amazing. So, Barry, my sweet number two, my second sweet boy. Who’s a boy. I was like, are you not twin girls? O for two on that one. He is incredible and amazing. And every time I look at him, I’m like, how are you here? You know? What a little miracle and what a nightmare you were in the beginning. I feel like that story is what a new modern religion or cult would use as their national holiday. I think if you want to start that right now and again, fifty fifty? Fifty fifty. We’re going in. Twenty twenty. Please eat a dumpling, eat a dumpling. Okay. But you gotta do it right. Okay. Wasn’t that wild? That’s a wild. That’s an incredible story. Thank you for. So, heads up when you knocked up with with your wifey. Bleeding is maybe okay. Okay, so you gotta do this, particularly in a certain way. I don’t know. Do you bite the, do you bite the nip? You put. You dip this, you get this. You gotta splash the vinegar on top first. Sorry, everyone who hates that. Okay, now that we have our vinegar, we may, like, bite a little. You bite a little? Bite a little and suck the soup. I said bite a little, dog. Oh, you like, bite a hole. I bite a hole. Okay, well, let me swallow this whole, like an oyster, and then I’ll start another one. It’s down there now. Okay. You bite a little, just a little bit. Did you put the vinegar on? I’m so sorry. I’m over here trying to memorize your life. It’s crazy. That baby survived. Okay, wait, just a little bite. Oh, you like, kind of get a little. Okay. Well. On the edge. Yeah. This is what I do. This is just my method. Yep, yep, yep. And you get some vinegar with the soup. That is nice. There’s gotta be MSG. There’s gotta be MSG in there. But MSG is good. Speaking of good, I’m gonna be performing good at MSG. That’s crazy. I’m gonna be there with a pocket full of MSG, and I’m gonna lick my finger, stick it in, and snack on it all night. That’s incredible. You and I MSG at MSG. How long has it been since you’ve gone on a full tour? Over seven years. And you’re bringing the whole fam? Obviously. I’m bringing my boys, my babies. I have a rule that I don’t go, like, a week without seeing them. I think they’ll have so much fun on tour, especially my three year old. Like, he loves trucks and buses and cars, and he’s been telling everyone, like, I’m going on a tour bus. But literally last night, I was trying to explain to him, do you know what tour means? He was like, what tour means? And then I was like, remember the bus I showed you? He’s like, yeah, cool bus. I was like, we’re gonna sleep on that. And he’s like, no. I was like, no, they’re cool. They’re like bunks. And then I’ll put stars on your ceiling. And I’ll have an astronaut shooting stars up on your ceiling. Because there’s a ceiling, right? And he was like, no, no. And I was like, and there’s a curtain. And you could see everyone. He was like, see everyone? Who’s everyone? And I was like, well, there’s gonna be me Dada, mama, like Kelly, Leslie and named everyone on the bus. And he was like, I don’t want to see everyone. And I was like, it’s like a sleepover. He’s like, no, not a sleepover. And he’s like, I don’t sleep on bus. I sleep on chair. And I was like, chair? And he was like, I want to go home. And I was like, we’re not even there. So then I got. I was like, I’m going to cry soon. You’re going to love tour. I might have explained it wrong, but I tried to explain to him, too, like, then you’ll go to bed, and Mama will go sing and dance on stage. And that’s what I tell him my job is. And he’s like, and everyone say yay to you. And I was like, everyone’s gonna say yay to me, like, so loud. And he’s like, they no say yay to me. And I was like, oh, they could. And he was like, no. Your child either speaks like an alien or like an. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does. He does. His sentences. He’s putting them together, but they’re a little weird. They’re so cute, though. At night, he’s like, can you tell me about my day but no the end? I’m like, no the end? It’s so sweet and sad. I’m like, exactly, dude. No the end. This will never the end. And I was like, that’s what Timeless is about. Brought it back. Hit that plug. You ready for dessert? Yeah. One more, Meghan. One more. Meghan, for the final course of your final meal, we have the bowl of mini Charleston Chews and then a simple peanut butter and jelly sandwich. What’s more homey than that? I killed it. Good God. This is my favorite candy of all times. And it’s hard to find, which is a good thing for me, because that is dangerous. And there’s nothing better than a good PB and J. I don’t know what to say. You don’t have to say anything. No, I mean, this is like the ultimate, like, comfort, nostalgia. What do you eat on your last meal? Has anyone done it to you yet? I actually. This whole thing started because I cooked my own just as a funny one off episode. And I couldn’t stop talking about death while I was doing it. Like a carne asada burrito, shrimp cocktail, because it’s the fanciest food I ever heard of when I was a kid. And then a whole loaf of garlic bread with ranch on the side. So, ranch queens together. Whoa. You’re going out burping. Going out. Oh, most def. This was made with love. Thank you, whoever made this. Look at this fluffy white bread. I haven’t had bread like this in so long. What’s he ripping it for? I have a weird tactile thing where I, I love just ripping things. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, I love that you’re comfortable enough to be aggressive now. Oh, no, you go. No, I’ve spent this whole time interviewing you. You go. Please clip that, dude. We are the same person. We’re gonna be great friends. I think we are gonna be great friends. Where do you think people go when they die? I don’t think we go anywhere. It’s incredibly bleak. I believe that consciousness is a evolutionary sleight of hand, a trick to make us believe that we’re. Wait, stop being so smart. So consciousness is like an incredible coincidence that we evolved so far past, maybe not even that far past, like octopuses and dolphins, but enough to get us to fear our own death, which has made us build cathedrals and make Charleston Chews and sing songs, thinking that they’re meaningful. But ultimately, we’re all just like animals, braying at the moon until one day it goes night night, like it has for every other creature, the trillions upon trillions that has on Earth. I don’t think humans are inherently special. And I think everything just goes black. What do you think happens? Have you looked into it at all? Or are you, like, it’s black? I’ve looked into it a little bit. Some fascinating things about the rush of dimethyltryptamine. You’re smart. DMT. DMT. Ayahuasca. That’s why people do it. Did you do it? I’ve never done it. I’m too scared. I’ll never do it. You wanna do it? No, dude. Fifty fifty. Fifty fifty. Let’s do it. I don’t know what that means. I promise I won’t go with you. I can’t. I took too many edibles one time, and my brain was like, never again. Me taking too many edibles is also another reason for this show, because it’s the first time I got a death anxiety attack. Me too. I started crying and I couldn’t move. I had panic disorder. Oh, my. Was that, you noticed that from edibles? To a doctor I was like, it’s right here. I took fifty milligrams of edibles. I messed up and I can’t unclose it. I can’t make it stop. And now I’m just having panic every day, all the time. And they were like, your chemicals are literally messed up right now, and we’re gonna bring it back. And that’s why I started antidepressants, and I’ve never looked back. Damn. Wait, but you think the pot actually? Well, like, my first one ever was when I accidentally. I literally had, like, a lollipop and was doing a puzzle. Forgot I ate the twenty-five milligrams of lollipop. Ate another one. I said uh oh. I’m not breathing anymore. You know? What happened? And Daryl’s like, well, you’re on your second. I was like, second? That’s simply too much. I usually would have, like, five milligrams on a day off just to do a little puzzle. That was a fun thing for me. Sad and went too far and never looked back. Do you remember the specific feeling or the specific fear when you were on those edibles that freaked you out about death? Like, can you, can you ever access that or do you try not to? I never, ever wanted to die. Ever. And I’m like, so scared of getting, having life cut too short. I watch a lot of Dateline. Love Dateline. Every night I, stop it. I can’t go to bed without listening to it. It’s so bizarre. It’s like lullabies, you know, and they’re like, they found her in the kitchen. Well, my dream, dream dreams. This is why I went on a ghost hunt. I really want to see a ghost in person. Everyone’s claiming they’re happening because then I could be a ghost and I could stick around and haunt my kids. Yeah. Then I know it’s real. I went to, like, a haunted mansion. I did the whole thing. I didn’t see anything. I stayed up until four AM I was like, come get me, big boy. And nothing. Nobody got me. I was like, scratch me. Ghosts hate being called big boy. Yeah. I think I wasn’t afraid enough or something. Or I wasn’t. I was like, why am I not open enough? You know? So. Maybe they were nervous. They’re like, oh, is that the All About That Bass girl? Yeah. They’re like, love your song. No, I would love that, so that I can have some proof or something. I need proof. That’s my problem. I need, like, scientific proof, and there is nothing. And that’s the worst feeling ever. I was gonna ask you if you think fear and love are inherently coupled, because you’ve said to Daryl, I believe if you die before me, I’ll kill you. I’ll kill you. I say that to him. How do you know that? I am the Long Island Medium. Wow. Rips off mask. Yeah. Yeah. How do you know? I say that to him, like, every day. Do you think that fear gets in the way of love, or do you think it’s a necessary part of it? Because if you love something obviously. It gets in the way of my love sometimes. That’s why I was like, I want to live timeless. I want to, like, live like it’s not scary and be here forever. I always say, like, if someone had a potion and they were like, drink this and live forever. I would, instantly, no problem. Kind of how I watched my own grandma pass. And this is the first time a family member has died that I’ve actually felt real closure and grief. It was. She was surrounded by every single person that she loved. That’s what I want. She shed a single tear. Stop it. Said, I love you, and then her heart. Stop it. No, but I’m saying that’s. Great. That’s great. That’s not great. I’m sorry. No, it is great. It’s a hundred percent great. That’s the way to go. That’s what I did right when she died. I went. Good job, Grandma. I am so sorry for your loss. But, like, yeah, that’s my dream out. What do you think happens after you die? If you had to really put money on it right now. This show sucks. It’s the worst. I hate it more than you do. I host it. Oh, it’s gonna be all up in my teeth. What do I think when we die? I really hope it’s not all black. Lights out. Yeah. I just hope I can somehow communicate with my kids forever. Yeah. I hope I haunt them forever. You ready to get into the lightning round? A lightning round? Yeah. Did I answer everything? Who’s the one person, dead or alive, you’d wanna share your actual last meal with? Whoa. I’m not good at lightning rounds. Let me think. That I would share my last meal with? My family. Is that an answer? My hubby, my kids. You have to pick one. Next one. That question sucked. What’s your desert island condiment? Condiment? I get one, chipotle mayo. Who would want to dance off, you or T-Pain? T-Pain. He’s so good. He does this thing. I would love to know how to do this thing. I was about to try, and then I was like, no, don’t. No, no, no. I can do like the, Shaq cat meme. You know, that’s it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Shaq. That’s all I know. Yeah, yeah. What song do you want to be played at your funeral? I never thought about that. I guess. Yeah, I do want to party. I don’t want a funeral. I don’t want to be buried. I want ashes, and I want them spread out into art pieces on my kid’s walls. Sick. Yeah. You know when they can put them in resin and make it look like an ocean. Yeah. But I don’t like the beach, so it might not be that. It might be, like, a sunset. That’s the plan. People call you bubblegum. That’s metal as hell. That’s so rock and roll. That’s so metal, dude. I want party. I want a full party. All the hits, all the upbeats. Play all of my songs I’ve ever written. Let’s speed them up to two times. All right. What’s the hardest goodbye you’ve ever had to say? To my kids this morning. Yeah? Yeah. Every time I say, my Riley boy is getting to that age where he’s like, no, like, full meltdown. And Daryl’s like, why do we say goodbye? And I was like, well, just in case, you know, I’m like, we don’t know if we’ll come back today. You know? That’s how I live, so it’s bad. She choked on a Charleston Chew. Yeah. We don’t know what this day’s gonna be. It’s a long one. What’s your biggest regret in life? I have, like, a person or two I regret. Name them. Hooking up with, you know? Hey, I won’t tell anyone. No. Yeah. Finally, are you happy? Oh, I’m so happy. I’m too happy. That’s why I’m upset. I’m so happy that I’m afraid, like, it’s too good. What’s going on? I get it. Everything’s gonna be fine. I didn’t mean to cause the panic attack. There’s no pot. It can’t hurt you. It’s not even you. Meghan, thank you so much. Thanks for the bellyache, and thanks for the Ibgard, and thanks for the most intense conversation I’ve had in a long time. No, that means a lot to me. Thank you for being so complimentary. And thank you for letting me eat six soup dumplings, even though they were supposed to be yours. Meghan, if you want to deliver your last words to that camera right there. I will be with my family, and I’ll be like, I love you, because I’ll be a hundred and twenty. I like that your accent kind of changed a little Forrest Gumpy. Yeah. I love you. It’ll be dust. It’ll be just dust coming out. I love you. Single tears. Brought to you by Metamucil Meghan, thank you so much. You are truly awesome. Let it go, everyone poop Fluencers for life. Fluencers. Fluencers for life. That’s incredible. Thank you all so much. Everybody, check out Meghan’s new album, Timeless, out on June seventh. And then you got a whole tour coming up. How do you know? September, October, everyone come, the Timeless Tour. It’s gonna be great. We got Natasha Bedingfield, Chris Olsen, Paul Russell, and my older brother Ryan, who’s a DJ. Hell, yeah. I’ll be there. I’ll be at MSG, eating MSG. I’ll be at The Forum eating. I’m not gonna lie, probably like, a nachos. There’s nothing at The Forum. I can’t stop burping, okay. See you all next time. Bye. Face the reality of mortality head on with our new Last Meals hat and tee, available now at mythical. com