[Music] Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett and I’m linked this week at the roundest table of dim lighting in the world. That’s quite a claim. What? Oh, you went on a trip and we’re going to talk about it. Oh, say you forgot what? No, I didn’t. I didn’t. When I changed it up, I didn’t know how to keep going. Oh, Rhett went to um I always want to say Portugal, but that was over a year ago. This year, my boy went to uh Don’t tell me. I do remember, but God, it’s Portugal in my brain. Okay, well, let’s let it be Portugal. He’s going to But it’s kind of similar. My There’s like a there was like a an American perspective. There’s like a rocky coast. What a ment and um people are really starting to go there and enjoy it and what is it called? Um I’m not going to give it to you because when you make the connection you’ll you’ll grow a new neuronication that I need to do. You better hold on to that neuron as hard as you can. Um, uh, it rhymes with it ends in an N. The last letter. No, it doesn’t. It It rhymes with Fa Flatia. Croatia. Yeah. Who goes to Croatia, man? A lot of people. Apparently, it’s a beautiful land. Yeah. From the two pictures that I saw. I got more pictures that I will uh share on the socials if So, Red’s going to tell us about that. First, I’m going to spend 17 minutes clearing my throat. By the way, I cleared it up. I cleared it up. This is only days after that. I cleared it up. It turns out, you know what it was? It was a sickness that was trying to get the best of me, and I stamped it out. Okay. How do you know that? Well, because I had it the next day, too. Like, it was like a sore throat the next day. Okay. And then I said, “Uh-uh.” And it went away. Might have been might have been allergies. Who knows? So, if you’re watching the video version of your biscuits, which of course comes out on Wednesdays on the YouTube channel, then um you’ll be able to look at the pictures. If you’re just listening, which of course that comes out every Monday, um then you’re just listening and you can visualize the pictures and you can watch the video later. But what you really need to get geared up for is Wonder Hole season 2. The first episode comes out this coming Sunday at 11:00 a.m. No. Yep. Pacific. That’s 2:00 p.m. Eastern on Sunday. This Sunday afternoon. What What date is that? 24th. 24th. August 24th. August 24th of 2025. A date that will go down in the history as being the debut of Wonder Hole season two. If you’re a member of the society, as of the Wednesday preceding this Sunday, you can watch every episode ad free. First tier, second tier, third tier, any version of the society tiers. You get to watch it early and free the entire episode. So, a little something special for you society members. So, if you’re watching this episode on YouTube, then it’s already up there. It’s already up there on the society. Um, so yeah, every Sunday for the next six weeks, an episode of Wonder Hole will come out on Sunday. Um, and we are so excited about it. And we’ll talk a little bit about we’re going to get we’re going to do our uh we’re not going to like talk about Wonderh Hall multiple episodes or anything like that, but we’re going to next week we’ll talk more about Wonderhole once an not is it next week or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Next week. uh once an episode is out, you know, you can get an idea of what we’re doing and where we’re going and we can talk about it together as a group class discussion. Yeah. Croatia. Well, Croatia is only part of it. You know, Croatia, you don’t limit me to just Croatia when my vacation started in Boston. That’s right. Okay. I remember um Shepherd’s doing a little summer camp type thing, summer program in Boston. And uh so we went up there to drop him off at the beginning of our break, me and my wife Jesse. And did you put a note on him and say, “We’re going to Croatia. Take care of this guy.” No, it’s a little more official than that. There’s paperwork and a fee. Turns out there’s a fee to for these people to watch him for a month. Okay. Quite a fee. Can I just talk about Boston for a second? Yeah, feel free. Um, I would have told you if you had asked me, list the cities that you want to go to in America that you have been to. It would have taken me a while to get to Boston. You might not would have ever gotten there. Well, I mean, on a list, I would have gotten there on a list if it was exhaustive. Okay. Because we’ve been there one time. I think we I remember Well, I remember we went there. I think we went there with the Alka-Seltzer road trip. We went through there because I remember walking. We went into lobster. Oh, that was that. That was that. Yeah, it was theor the thing that started the whole local commercial thing. Maybe the reason that we’re even at this table right now in Los Angeles is because we went to Boston. Yeah. But I also remember that we had a limited amount of time before we had to get back into that RV and go to another city. Yeah. We didn’t experience things, but we went in the Cheers bar. You don’t remember that? I do now that you’ve said it. I forgot all about it. Actually, it’s only the outside. Of course, the inside is a TV set. It’s not an the actual Well, yeah. So, that like the the fac the It’s an actual It’s like the restaurant from In Seinfeld. It’s like, oh, this is the exterior that we show. It’s the exterior. That’s the word I’m looking for. So, we But I do think we went in. I like to believe that we did. We also were once invited to MIT. Can you believe that? We were invited to MIT to speak at a conference at at Rafflecon. Yeah. I didn’t want to say what it was. A it the budding world of internet celebrities got together in Rufflecon. Roll on the floor laughing con. This is like VidCon before VidCon. Yeah. And I remember we hung out with I Justine and Brookers. Brookers. Yeah. Yeah. Brookers. See, I remember. You have a good long term, man. It’s your shortterm and working memory that we need to work on. And it’s my long-term memory that I need to work on. And together we have a perfect memory. Can one work on a long-term memory? Well, it’s a long-term project. I think you just keep re renovating your short-term memory. United States. If I’m not good with the short-term memory, does that mean nothing new is getting put into the long-term memory? Quite possibly. Like I don’t know how it works. Osensibly at one point your short-term memory was good and that’s how you remember the old things or some my brain just knows this is this is going directly in the long term and so a year from now you will easily remember that Rhett went to Boston and Croatia. The year after he went to Portugal. Well, you know the thing that you that the kinds of things that you tend to remember very well much better than me sense. Well, that wasn’t where I was going to go cuz I think I’m a pretty good smeller. Um, well, first of all, song lyrics, which is a different thing. Like you that part of your brain is very intact. Um, but experiences going places. Yeah. And I those I think it’s a spatial memory actually. And I don’t remember experiences. I remember concepts and so like like oh we went there and I’m like ah oh yeah you’re right we did but I never think about that unless I wrote it down in like a journal or something or we then talked about it again if I don’t run the memory through something other part of my brain I would never remember raffle con again. All I could have told you is that I’ve been to MIT don’t remember anything about it. It’s just I remember that as a concept and our wives were with us and I do remember the road trip from Boston to New York. Yeah, we we were in New York and we just tacked that on. So I remember driving out there. Well, let’s talk about this trip to Boston. Okay. Um all that to say Boston is a beautiful city. You know, first of all, I love an East Coast city. Can we give it up for East Coast cities? you know, they they got there’s just a there’s something about them. They’ve been around for longer. They have much Well, you should go to Dublin. They have much more Well, they are they are much more like older European cities. But there’s something about the combination of the fact that they happen to be the first coast that, you know, the settlers got to and so they are more settled, but also the foliage, the plant life. It’s not a desert, you know what I mean? It’s a temperate forest or something. I don’t know the terms. There’s big old trees everywhere and there’s a lot of green that seems to just sustain itself without a whole lot of sprinklers. Yeah. And the buildings are beautiful and the uh there’s just something. And also the thing about Boston is it feels like New York in that there’s a lot of stuff going on in a tight space, but it’s smaller, more concentrated, and it’s cleaner. Can I just say that Boston feels super clean? I I kind of like a dirty city, a dirty cleaner than New York. Okay. Um and definitely cleaner than LA, but like I kind of like a dirty somewhat dangerous city. Like I’m not scared of that. I kind of like turning down the wrong corner and seeing what happens. There’s a part of me that likes that, but and I’m sure there’s parts of Boston that are like that. I don’t like walking around and all of a sudden I get hit hit with this scent and I will call it a smell. I’ll call it a stink. You get hit with a stink. So, I’ve gotten really good at the moment a stink starts to enter, I expel it. And breathe through your mouth, you’re still getting it. No. Yeah. And then you’re just eating it. I learned this from my dogs. Whenever they smell the fart. Yeah. They they push it back out. Yeah. Once you smell it, it it’s too late. It’s already in your brain, right? But then you push it out. You know, I don’t need any more information from this fart. Um or from this block a dumpster. You didn’t happen upon any Boston stink. I mean, I don’t really I’m not as stink averse as you. Stink make me horny as you know. And uh so I I don’t I there’s less of that though. There’s no like piles of trash bags on the street corner that you kick and multiple rats come out of. Well, you might not have been there the right day. Also true. It was Fourth of July weekend and it was you know you’re in this part of the country that uh where you know we took the freedom trail whatever that thing is with the audio and you’re you’re in this part of the country where it’s just like a lot of the history of America can be traced to specific places and people and events that happen there and it’s kind of a um a cool thing to explore. We got to see the fireworks on the harbor. Hara Hara Hara where the tea party happened. Uh yeah, I guess so. You didn’t think about that? Well, no. We I went to Listen, man. I I went I did the freedom walk. I talked all about the tea party. Okay. And then uh went to Paul River’s house again. I was like, I’ve already been there with Link. Um but I decided to go back because my wife really wanted to go and it was the same. I they I don’t remember that they have not renovated the Paul River house since uh 10 years ago. Oh, okay. Which missed opportunity. Yeah. For a little decorative update. Really could use a dual vanity in there. And uh but we just had a great time. And then the other thing that I love about the city is it is such a high concentration of educational centers right there. Like you could you could set a drone up right there in the middle of the river and you could see Harvard, MIT, Boston College, Boston University, Tus University, uh the Berkeley College of Music and there’s just one after I’m only then there are so many more and there’s something I you know I’ve always had this like inferiority complex. Well, yes. I I I always have had this fascination with universities, love of higher learning and the idea of like being a professor with an office on an old university campus with brick buildings and big trees and like be in my office just like learning something and then occasionally going out and like saying things to a group of people then coming back like in which again is not a fant it’s not complete fantasy because you had an uplose and personal view of this. You’re describing your dad’s profession. Yeah, he was a law professor. That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. So, um it’s actually a well-informed fantasy that you have here typically those type of things or something like Well, but yeah, it’s different when you actually do it. I could I I still could see that for you. Maybe I’ll be an adjunct. You could be an adjunct. I mean, there’s like I just Lupe Fiasco is a is a hip-hop professor at like he could be MIT for all I know. One of those places. I don’t know why it would be in MIT, but it’s somewhere like that. But I just and I love college towns. There’s something there. First of all, there’s just something about people in that age group who are becoming who they’re going to be and they’re learning all this stuff and like they’re passionate about things and they’re radical about things like they like they get so passionate and so idealistic about whatever ideology they’re currently exploring. And of course, we have tired, right? They stay up all the time, but then you get tired or the next day you just have to devote to recovery and there is an energy that that descends upon a place uh that has that type of stuff going on and Boston has so much of it and there’s so many good places to eat. I’m just a big fan. Aerosmith from there. Oh yeah. I just I would I’d like to go for the record shops but go ahead. Uh, so anyway, I was buy an original pump. I was very excited and then started, you know, trying to convince Shepherd that you should go to college at one of these places so I could come back and visit. Um, we’ll see how that goes. I’m not going to make my kid do things like that, though. But he he loves it, too. He’s still there, coming back, I think, next week, and he is having the time of his life. He loves it there. It’s a great place to be in the summer, apparently. not so great to be there in the winter apparent some people have said I don’t know I’ve never been there and we have a lot of people here at mythical u uh from um what’s the Emerson right and Emerson’s in Boston am I right about that Emerson so we have a so we we have a bunch of we have there was a bit of an Emerson mythical pipeline for a while there we still have some coming and uh anyway so there’s a a tie there now that was only a few days and then it was off to Croatia. Croatia. That’s right, Link. Never forget. 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There you go. and go all the way to the coast of the Mediterranean. Go to the knee. Well, no, the No, like we’re past the boot. I know. What’s past? We’re No, the the knee would be like Switzerland up there. I’m not continuing to I’m following the coastline. Yeah, but the I think that that’s the coastline is the thigh. Let’s just say Italy. So you’re following Italy and then you’re following the coastline on the east side and then it kind of curves back to become the north side of the Mediterranean and then it starts curving down again to be the eastern side of this whole Mediterranean Sea that is jutting into Europe and Asia Europe. And then right there on the eastern side of that you have Croatia. So, right across from Italy, like if you were to jump off of the calf of Italy eastward, the first country you would hit, well, depending on where you aimed, would be Croatia. Okay. And you chose Croatia because of Game of Thrones. No, I didn’t. Uh, but they did film stuff there. Let’s just say Croatia in some some ways and to some consternation of the locals which I will get into in a moment has become a Game of Thrones museum. Oh. Um like King’s Landing. King’s Landing. I don’t know. I read the first book and I watched the first season and then my wife went on without me and so I feel like I’m a Oh yeah. I was frozen in a fetal development stage uh when it comes to Game of Thrones. So, I felt a little inadequate, but yeah, like the Red Keep. We were eating uh when I sent you that video, I was like dinner next to the Red Keep, like the entrance. And then in the It’s a walled city, De Brvnik, and in the walled city is like, “Oh, there’s the stairs of shame where she walks down naked, which I’ve seen like on TikTok, you know what I mean? I haven’t seen it in the actual thing.” So, so many things shot there and there’s so many gift shops and statues of Peter Dinklage outside of gift shops welcoming you in. Uh, I’ll get to that in a second. Your neighbor, your your your grade school neighbor. Yeah, the uh the Adriatic Sea. The Adriatic Sea is beautiful. I guess this is just the the portion of the Mediterranean that is there along the coast. other countries over there. You got um Bosnia, Montenegro, um all these these five countries used to be Yugoslavia and I learned a little bit of the history. And then when we were like in middle school, they were Yugoslavia and then but and there was that Mallich guy. Remember that name? I didn’t know anything about it, but he was like in charge of it. And then they all got their independence. And then immediately Bosnia and Montenegro attacked Croatia. And there was like a war going on over there while we were in middle school. And they like embargoed the city of Dravnik and they cut the power off for 3 months and they bombed it and like multiple like I I was I met multiple men who are now in their middle ages or you know a little bit older than me who were soldiers. Oh soldiers at that time you know like yes I fought right there on that hill against the Bosnians and that’s wild. Um, and the guy who took us around, the tour guide that took us around, De Brvnik, he was he was our age, so he was like 13, 14 in 91 in middle school as he’s his city is being bombed. Um, but it’s pretty wild history, but okay, the Adriatic Sea. I think this probably looks just like the east coast of Italy if you think about that rocky coast and then the beautiful clear water of the of the sea. Mhm. Like no sand. Okay. But you can look all the way down and see the rocks in the bottom regardless of where you’re at. Like it doesn’t matter how deep it is. You see all the way to the bottom. It’s like so clear. And the culture is a boating culture. This is like a water culture cuz there’s no waves. There’s no waves, right? And everywhere you look, there’s like steps that have been built to go down into the water or like, oh, here’s a little platform and there’s people it’s I don’t know what I don’t know what it is. This is another there’s these things that I learn about myself as I get older that there these aesthetic combinations of things like these settings. Again, we talked about an East Coast University. Yeah, there’s something about that. I’m like, there’s something special into clear waters. I know it separates. I know, but if you could put it all together, a botanical garden Oh. of any kind is very attractive to me. Mhm. Botanical garden make me horny, you know, like but like No, it makes peaceful. Yeah. Yeah. And there’s something about botanical gardening. These w these beautiful I mean we could have a whole line of things that Yeah. When I say horny, I’m talking about a cosmic horniness. I’m not talking about just a simple sexual arousal. I’m talking about a cosmic soul. Botanical garden make me cosmically horny. There are things that make me cosmically horny and the Adriatic Sea has been added to the list. It is so beautiful. gentle invitation of steps leading into crystal clear waters. I’m not one of these Make me cosmically horned. Yeah. Yeah. I’m not one of these anti-and people. I know there’s a lot of anti-and people that don’t like the beach. That’s a good point. A lot of people a lot of people don’t like the sand. Ocean sands beach. Sand. Yeah, that’s confusing. I don’t know what you mean by sands, but it’s hard to understand. Sands. Sand people. Yeah. But I don’t mind the sand and I actually don’t mind the waves. But I realized that as I’m categorizing cosmic horniness and my response to different beaches that no waves, crystal clear water and rocks. That’s where it’s at for me, man. And we the first place that we stayed was the island of Havar. Hv. Yes. Yes. And this is Jenna. You know about this? Yeah, I’ve been there. because Jenna did like a whole cruise along the coastline. So, she’s going to she’s been to at least all the places I’m going to Well, I haven’t I didn’t go to Debnik, so I’m very excited to hear about that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, he’s going to talk about Bavar first. I think Havar first. Yeah. And almost like Bavar like it’s HVAR like they they you know Croatian I don’t didn’t I didn’t learn any of it. It’s hard. I was like I don’t know if this is going to be worth it for a week. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know if this is worth it. It’s very complicated. It’s very specific. Is it crinkly in the mouth? It feels a little Russian if that’s what you mean. Okay. Yeah. And uh that’s what we Americans do. We if you have a if you have some in there, we just think it sounds Russian. You know, if there’s some Yeah. gutturalness in it. And there’s a little bit of that, but as far as I could tell, there’s very little like romantic language influence whereas, like, oh, I just heard a word I understood. It was like, I didn’t hear any words I understood. Kind of the way that I might hear in Italy or Spain or something like that. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s just my anecdotal experience. But the You stayed on the island or visited. So, we the the place that we stayed for the first three nights was the island, which this is the there’s a bunch of islands, thousands of islands off of the coast of Croatia, and they’re uh the majority are uninhabited, but this is the largest and pretty severely inhabited island. And it has the cities that are on like one of the cities that’s on this island, at least the claim, if I recall correctly, is like this is like the one of the oldest cities in all of Europe that’s been there for a really long time. Like started as like a fishing village. And so you go, we we actually stayed in this little town called Starrad, which was where our hotel was, which is on the other side of the island from where like all the action was. This is a party culture by the way and avar is very we got a lot of people coming from all over the world on boats and just getting hammered on shore or on their boats. Probably both. Both. And there’s definitely like a club type vibe which is not really my vibe. Like again club don’t make me horny. A lot makes a lot of people horny. Club don’t make me horny. Yeah. And they’re spilling out. Botanical gardens guy. And um well we weren’t even really we were just told mostly and we saw them come all these young folk coming in on the cruise ships cuz the cruise ships descend on these towns and then just vomit people out and they go into all the restaurants and everything and it gets a little overwhelming. But the thing that I did the first day when I got there was I saw that so we were in this like hotel that was kind of up on a hill and there was a road and then there was a pathway and I could see the Adriatic there behind me and I got down there and there’s like a just a little path along the the the coast that just keeps goes forever and there are these little places where there’ll be like little steps that go down into it. And the first time I did this I just did it barefoot. Not not advisable. I got a little cut. I got a little cut on dive one and after that Oh. to because you you’re talking about in the water. You swam with shoes. I just had a bathing suit on. Yeah. The first time and it was, you know, it’s you it’s rocks. You catch yourself on rocks. And everybody has these little water shoes which I I just had teas or teas depending on where you’re from that I would I just would wear to then go down and and kind of get in the water. But Jesse got multiple videos of me swimming with a very smile big smile on my face because it was like it’s cool and cold and clean and clear and there’s a buoyancy to it because it’s so salty. So you’re it’s not quite like Dead Sea saltiness that not even close I don’t think but it’s very salty. Did you employ any of your free diving and go down? Um so we did a little we did two boat trips and the first day we did a boat trip. So, this is the second day we were at Havar and we had signed up for this boat trip to a few different islands. And you know, I’d been watching the boats out there and it seems super calm. It seems like a lake, but the morning that we wake up to do the boat trip, they’re like, “We’re going to pick you up a little bit later because it’s a little bit rough out there today.” And I’m like, “Okay, you get you get seasick. Let’s take some dramine.” Yeah. And we go we meet our our our captain and he was like um things were a little bit uh there was quite a storm on on the other side of the island today near Split which is where we had flown into. I was like okay interesting. I hadn’t been on the internet. I hadn’t seen anything. I’ll come back. That’s an important detail. We get in the boat and this is a small speedboat essentially that has like a cover to keep you out of the sun. But this is like something you would take on Jordan Lake. This is not like a big boat. This is a boat that could comfortably hold six people. Okay. And we start going and this dude is going fast and we are getting thrown all over the place and Jesse’s looking at me like, can you believe this is like this is not fun? We’re paying for this. Oh no. And the kind of thing where you’re going along and you’re all of a sudden you’re like bam like the boat will leave the and come down and slam down. And then we were like can we slow down a little bit? Oh. And it’s like asking questions like when are we going to stop? How far until the first stop? And what we did not know is that on the other side of the island, on the other side of the island in Split, there was an historic storm that with a 100 mile hour winds. Um, hail, a hail storm flooding the streets, blowing trees over, it like ruined the football stadium with the hail that broke through. And it was like all over the internet when we got back. like Tik Tok all these clips of like this is the craziest thing that’s ever happened in this town is what people were saying and we were on the other side of a pretty small island just on a boat having no idea that this was happening was he trying to go fast to make it better you know he’s I think they’ve lost their sense boat men have lost their sensitivity they didn’t know we’re we’re land people but we did end up stopping at a little cove and there’s all these little coes and there’ll be a little village that has set up shop there in the, you know, this this building was built in the 1400s and is still there. And they had snorkels and we put them on. And the thing that I realized about myself is that I have I have a very specialized mask that I use when I scuba dive that is like super tight and um holds my face really well. And also I shave right here a little bit to get a space for the mask to fit under my nose so it doesn’t fill up. And if I’ve got just random boat mask and I haven’t shaved, as soon as I go down, it starts filling up with water. And so that started happening. So I wasn’t able to really do the snorkel thing to any great effect. Well, you need to bring bring your mask from now on. I would if I had thought about it. I didn’t from now on. I didn’t I didn’t do any research. I didn’t really understand what I was about to experience. you know, the the vacation snuck up on me. Things got a little crazy. I’m just saying for the future, but I think that diving would be great there. And I and I think that scuba diving would be great there. It has to be with that level of clarity. As clear as it is. Yeah. Um but then we had a boat trip planned for a couple of days later and Jesse was like, “Let’s cancel that.” She nervous. And I said, “You know what, baby? The the storm will be gone. I think that it’s going to be better.” And when we went out the next time, it was absolutely beautiful. We took uh and this is after we had gotten to the bronnik and we went to there’s three islands. It’s like they call the three something elephante islands or I don’t know it’s not elephante but that’s what it is in my mind and there is one island called lud l o p u d and it’s just this tiny island that again has been inhabited for probably a thousand years and there’s all these little there’s a church there that’s been in a monastery that’s been converted converted to like a hotel. We didn’t stay there. We just stopped there and it’s called like 1438, which is the year that it was built is the name the name of the hotel that’s been like converted into this like boutique hotel. We walked around that island and there was a botanical garden. Uhoh. On the island. So, I kind of got a two for one. There was not a university. There was not an East Coast university there. But it that it was totally beautiful. And we kept saying, “Oh, it’d be cool to come back here. maybe stay at that place and um and I don’t I mean it’s one of those things that I’m always I always struggle with whether or not you go back to a place or you find a new place but so we were kind of like having that conversation as we were going you know it’s one of those things where it’s like instead of just enjoying being there you’re like talking about whether or not you’re going to come back which is really hard to not do when you’re on vacation then we so but let’s talk about Dubnik because it gets a bit fascinating so this is this walled city where they filmed all of this Game of Thrones stuff. And you can see why once you get there. And the city is centuries old again, like middle ages built. And it is small enough that you can walk around the wall and you know an hour. Okay. And but there’s a bunch of houses and shops and cast old castle parts and stuff that are inside the walled city. And again, you know, on the list of things that made me horny, walled cities. Oh, you remember when we went to was it Antib? Yeah, but it was called St. Mark or something. St. Mark some other walled city in in the middle of France. Just like out of nowhere in France, there’s this walled city. And then Jesse and I went to a walled city in Portugal. And I love them. Again, it has this like we’re here. We’re safe. There’s nooks and crannies. The nooks and crannies. Yeah. I love them. And it’s so compact that everything that was is now being utilized. They didn’t, you know, it’s there’s not spread or it’s still pretty homogeneously ancient feeling. Yeah. And I just have this I want to like get in the wall and I want to go into not just the shops. I want to go into the houses of the people who live above the shops and these old places, you know. Well, that ended up happening because you got invited into a house. So, we meet our we decided to do a little historical tour of the Bravnik, the the you know, old city in the in the wall, not the Game of Thrones tour. I just instinctively kind of felt like that was going to be an insult. Mhm. Uhhuh. Um, and it turns out, boy was I right about that. So, um, Marin, our tour guide, shout out to Marin, he meets us and he’s just a super smiley, laughy, chatty guy. And I just immediately liked him. And we what we started noticing is that he couldn’t go 10 feet without somebody saying something to him. Hey, and like talk saying some exchange or whatever, local celebrity and I’m like, who is this guy? And Jesse was like, you’re like the mayor, huh? And he was like, well, I am a representative. And so it turns out that this guy is on like the city council of the old city. And he was like, I have a protest today at 2:30. Protest. So, we then get to know this guy and it turns out that there’s a thousand people that live full-time in the city and you know they all work in the industry there at this point cuz tourist industry, right? and he lives in a house that his dad bought or grandfather bought many many years ago that is like above one of the Game of Thrones stores. Okay. Right above the store and then and so we’re kind of he didn’t he wasn’t like actively wanting to like talk about this but you know my wife was there. Yeah. You talk talking to Jesse about a protest. Oh yeah. she’s going to start asking you all kinds of questions about what is it, how can we be a part of it? And um so what we ended up finding out is that the there’s there’s a contingent of locals who while they obviously appreciate the fact that tourism fuels a lot of the economy. You know, before Game of Thrones was filmed there, like it was still a cool place to it was a cool place to go and it was a cool place to live. And now you have throngs of people descending on this Walt City simply because it was where Game of Thrones was filmed. And so all this merchandise, all these stores, all these people taking pictures on the steps, people walking down the steps, people videoing, women walking down the steps of shame or whatever. Naked. Naked. All of them naked. And um then you start seeing that his his content the his contention and the people who live in there and the thing that they’re trying to get the mayor to understand is that you know this may be King’s Landing to you but this is our home. That’s those the signs say things like that. So I don’t know specifically what the talking points are. If it’s hey we need less cruise ships stopping here or we need to regulate how many people are coming in here or we need to regulate how many places can I don’t know what it’s like we need to take into account the fact that the the tourism is taking away from the quality of life to the people who live there is my is the gist and so because again it’s a walled city there’s nowhere to go right once that becomes like the thing then and you’re starting adding Peter Dinklage statues yeah Right. I mean, and I’m not going to comment on how big or small they are, but they’re they weren’t there before. Life size. And the thing is is you kind of get it, right? You’re like, I mean, this thing that this guy You felt good about not signing up for that tour. It not just because of how great the experience was, but because you weren’t perpetuating this eye rollish. And I think And it’ll die down a little bit, but I mean, not completely. He didn’t he he wasn’t like anti-Game of Thrones as he was giving the tour. He would but he could tell that we weren’t interested in asking in those questions and I think that he liked that. Yeah, we were much more interested in the history of the city and like him talking about I was here for a war. That’s an actual war, not one in a book that George RR Martin made up. Uh-huh. So the um so then the the symbol of the town, the campaign uh for the town is like it’s like a P and then an arrow like going into the P to make an R. I should know what that means, but I I wasn’t thinking about it. But on all their signs, they had replaced the arrow with a dick. like the protesters were bas like basically riffing on the the city symbol basically saying you want more stuff to come here and really you’re just all of us like that was the that was the it was a great it was great so when they came by when the protesters came by after our tour and we took some pictures which I will be showing now okay there was a canopy held by four people and then this pillow underneath underneath the canopy like suspended underneath the canopy and on and it said like something like the mayor’s plan or something like that and then on the canopy is just a dildo the mayor’s plan. I don’t know. Again, I don’t know Croatian so I don’t know what it said. I’m just inferring here. This is like whatever your city plan is that y’all are trying to do, we the people are saying that we’re being by this dildo. So, we like getting involved in a little political unrest, a little anti-ourism. Yeah. Yeah. While being a tourist and um but not of Game of Thrones. So, like you were in we were in a safe gray area. Yeah. Well, and and the kind of wild and ironic thing that was happening in my life at the time is I was smack dab in the middle of my own fantasy book that I am reading that is not Game of Thrones. So, I don’t know if you remember. Um, yes, I remember. So, we were a fake book. Yeah, we were on the set of Wonder Hole and uh James, who does sound uh boy, he had a book that it was so big that I thought maybe he was going to use it as a seat. Yeah. Like I thought that You’ve You’ve told this story here. Oh, I’ve told that story here. You’ve told this story? Not here. No, I haven’t told it here. It was like a more I just saw I literally just saw about how you started. Okay, then continue. Yeah. Yeah. I’m just saying different audience. You’re reading a big fantasy book called It’s called The Way of Kings, book one. Okay. Um Brandon Sanderson is the guy who who wrote this. I started reading it because James was in the middle of the fourth book. And then I was thinking I I read so much non-fiction and I read so much conceptual stuff that I almost always feel like I’m studying for a test. And I was like, I don’t want my uh my break to be me studying for a test. I want it to be like mindless reading, like a fantasy world where nothing is happening that’s actually happening. And uh and I didn’t want to do science fiction because sometimes that makes you think too much. So I’m trying to think less. So but I did bite off a lot. 1,200 pages I think is the first book. And I don’t know why I decided to do that. But James was in the fourth book and then I started talking to my brother Cole and he is in the middle of the third book. Oh. And he’s like, “Yeah, it’s really good. I think you’d like it.” And he he’s read a lot of fantasy over the years and so I I bet you I would like it. I think you would. I mean, you read Game of Thrones, so I think you’d like it. Now, I will say it is not runchy. It is. It doesn’t have It has a lot of the intrigue and the magic and it’s really interesting and edifying in a weird way, but it is um it’s wholesome. It’s familyfriendly. All right. That I’m I’m fine with that. Well, I’m just saying if you I mean, I don’t know. There’s They don’t say the f- word in it if you’re into that kind of thing. It’s not my fantasy books that I No, no, no. It’s not. I mean, I read 1,200 pages and nobody made love that I could tell. But you made it through. Spoiler alert. I did make it through, but I was in the middle of reading this thing and as I was I was telling Jesse, um, you know, when George RR Martin sat down to begin writing this Game of Thrones series, there’s no way, of course, the furthest thing from his mind is that I am going to by writing this successful series, I’m going to have a tangible impact on this entire part of the world where they just choose to film the live action version of what I’m writing. Like, no one thinks that. And it’s and it’s fine. It’s like it’s not his fault and it’s not even necessarily a bad thing. It’s just something that has to be managed. It’s something that any city that decides to let somebody film someplace, they got to take into account. It’s like the Breaking Bad lady’s house, right? You got to take it into account. You got to be ready. You got to be ready just in case it’s one of these once in a-lifetime successes that people are going to create pilgrimage sites out of. You never know if that’s going to happen. Um, but it’s just a fascinating thing to think about. I when I read this this series, which I do recommend. I mean, I’m enjoying it. I’m in the middle of the second book now. Boy, I can’t imagine this being a movie or TV show. It’s one of those things that Oh, someone’s trying to imagine. Oh, I know they’re trying, but the magic in the world and some of the specific things that happen, it would just be so much CGI stuff is the only way that you could do it. And I could just imagine it would just end up not working. I don’t know. I’m sure they can figure it out. They can do they can do a lot, but that’s just what I thought is like maybe this should just be a book. Maybe this should remain a book. Um Well, I’m intrigued. So, we we we uh we did the uh that that second boat trip was much more enjoyable. One of the things that people kept telling me is they would say things like, “Michael Jordan is here. Steph Curry is here.” Apparently, lots of other people were there at the time. Yachts. Uhhuh. Michael Jordan in his big yacht. Steph Curry in his big yacht. This is a place where I guess NBA players pull up in their big yachts apparently. walk, maybe eat at one place. Apparently, Mr. Bezos had stopped his yacht at one of the places before his wedding and had dinner at this one restaurant that we then made sure to not eat at. Um, but the uh so it is a it is quite a hot spot hot spot of tourism. And like I was telling you, I think that the idea of you I I see how you could be like, “Let’s get a group of people to get on a boat.” Like you did the cruise thing, Jenna. I did. Yeah, it was a catamaran. Um there were there was like a fleet of maybe 15 catamarans from like a twobedroom to four. I was on a fourbedroom with a few other girls. Yeah. I mean, it’s it’s the coast itself is so beautiful. And again, that’s all I saw because we started in split of our we take the trip down to Dravnik. That was the whole time we were there. And Croatia has basically come in and they have the entire coastline that Bosnia was about to have. I guess it’s like just basically in the same way like Chile like has the whole coastline instead of Argentina on that west coast. It’s kind of similar setup there. Maybe that’s why Bosnia attacked them in the ‘9s. Um, it’s just a super super beautiful place. Were there people driving like Ferraris and McLarens around like Monaco or something? Not where we were. I know that that probably it probably was the case in some places, but this this is see Michael Jordan. This is a nice boat culture. Very nice boats. Like you get we when we were in De Brnik, we stayed a little bit south of the town in this little cove and there’s all these restaurants that are like boom right on the water and then there’s just these multi multi-million dollar boats that have just set up right there that are like really nice houses that have their own staff. like Below Deck, that reality show, you know, that level of, okay, there’s 10 people who work on this boat and there’s people on vacation or just like a rich family or something and people like sitting there eating their dinner on the back at this table that like overlooks the the water. That that’s kind of the culture there for the tourists. See, I would have hoped to have met somebody in the restaurant that then would have invited me back on their boat cuz you know they’re they get bored out there on their like fancy mega yachts. They got everything they need except in except me, baby. Interesting companionship for the night. Yeah, I tend to I don’t and I don’t mean it like that in that way, but I don’t invite myself to parties like you do. I would be on I’d be on somebody else’s yacht cuz that’s a lot less expensive. But I did I forgot to tell I can afford that. I can literally afford to get on someone else’s yacht, right? That’s it. The thing I told you that I didn’t end up finishing telling you is that Marin actually let us go into his house. So Oh, yeah. We didn’t even ask. He was like, “You want to go into my home?” Because he could tell we wanted to. So So we went into his his house that is, you know, just been there forever and it’s been in his family for generations. And then there’s all this like incredible art that he just like I think his grandfather or mother or somebody was an artist and it’s just kind of up on the wall. So that was very cool to be like you’re in we’re like in the old city right now and there’s a Game of Thrones store right down there. That’s where Jesse and I got the pictures outside of the window of each other. Oh, okay. Um so Croatia was great. I recommend it. Swim in the Adriatic Sea. Put that on your bucket list. But then come in a yacht. That’s what I’m going to do. You should have I I would have that that I would have to figure out how to make that part happen. Yeah. I didn’t meet anybody that was on one. I saw somebody die. Go on. Can I tell you that story? Yeah, man. Yeah. I mean, I was It was from a distance. It was from a very long distance, and I didn’t know they were dying until the next day. But I don’t know the circumstances, but somebody fell on the water one night, an an American woman, and there was like an ambulance and cops and all this stuff, and there was just people standing around, somebody was on the ground, and I was like 50 yards away as we were walking. I was like, “Oh, something’s going on. And then the next day, Jesse’s talking to um another woman that was staying in her hotel, and she was like, I don’t know what happened, but they got that woman out of the water and they couldn’t get her to come back. Oh god. Because the the paths are such that you could if you were like tipsy or something, you fall in 100%. Like there’s no railings anywhere. There’s just like concrete and then it just drops off into the water. So I could see how that could happen. multiple places. But again, I don’t know any of the circumstances, okay, of of what happened. Um, that was a quite a note to end on. I saw a lot of people live. There you go. Mostly everyone else you saw live. I saw mostly living people. Mhm. So then I go to North Carolina to the cabin. This is the first time that Jesse and I have stayed at our place since she has gotten it the way that she wants it, which is also the way that I want it. And this is the first that architectural digest. This is the first time I just found something. I felt something underneath my shirt and it was like crust stuck to my chest hair and it really washed it. It really hurt to put it out. What is that? That’s probably a shower booger. Sometimes it’ll come out and get on your chest here. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Well, you just found it. And then I I pulled it through the shirt and I pulled out a bunch of I’m sorry for you, Link. Um Sorry. There was something about showing up at the place and not having to kill a million yellow jackets and not having to do a bunch of work on the house, which has been the case every other time we’ve ever gone there, but to just literally have a place of calm and peace and connection. We brought Sean and Barbara with us and our mornings consisted of getting up when we wanted to without an alarm clock, getting a cup of coffee, going and sitting on the porch that looks out into the woods with the dogs out there. I’ve got my book, which I’m reading it on an e-reader. I’m not okay. taking her around the doors stop and reading, talking, sweating, hearing the sweating. Yes. Hearing the the the all the crazy birds that are out there in the trees. There’s a little hummingbird that would come visit every morning and like look at us and go up into the trees. And Sean and Barbara are out there with us. Sean acquainting himself with the faint reflection of me in the window of the house and then growling at it. He never quite put together that it wasn’t me. It’s a shadow version of me and a shadow version of himself that he has beef with. Oh, at least he sees his reflection. But this is the first time that he’s you put him in front of a mirror, it’s like it’s too clear for him. Too real. But there’s something about the like faint reflection of a window. Okay. I discovered a new pastime. Can I ask one thing about the dogs? They go into the backyard and you just let them like they wouldn’t run into the woods and not come back. No. Well, I mean the funny thing about Sean especially I was like, “All right, guys. Do your business.” Open the door. They go outside. They go They had a couple of spots where they would do their business. They’re kind of figuring out like this I want to go to this spot or whatever. Mhm. As soon as Sean finishes his business, he goes back back to the door. He’s like, I don’t like it out here. Too hot. Barbara will start wandering deeper into the woods or like slowly and she doesn’t like to respond to you. Mhm. She’s just like, I’ll come back when I want to. I’m not going anywhere. Don’t worry about me. Yeah. And then eventually she turns around and comes back. But they No, that wasn’t a problem. And they really they like it quite a bit. We did take them on a walk. um one day that we went into town and kind of took them on a walk and cuz Jesse always thinks that they need to get out more and I’m always trying to convince her that they’re happy and fine that they’re they’re little dogs and they move around a whole lot and we take them out and like they don’t it’s not like I I don’t have like a black lab that needs to run around all the time. So, and Shawn proved this because we get out there and he starts pan. They both start panting, but Sean was doing the thing where like any spot of shade he would like go to and just lay down completely and like his he’s he’s starting to foam at the mouth. We had to like stop and like get him water from a restaurant and he’s just like get me the hell back inside. Like what are you people are crazy? Like why are we out here right now? You had to carry him. And I will say it was hot as hell. And it was and of course you know it wasn’t just hot it was the humidity and you’re just blasted with it and you just forget that this is what it was like when you were growing up and it rains every single day. It the thunderstorm like every single day. So there’s like water just waiting to turn into rain at all times. You get used to it after I got used to it after a few days and then I would like in the morning like going out and being like oh it’s like stepping into a steam bath. It’s kind of cool. We used to go out in just shorts, you know, and there’s something relaxing about it. But I play golf with Cole and my dad and my dad’s 79 years old at this point. And I’m like I tried to find a really early tea time because I’m like, I don’t want to take this 79y old man out into this heat. Is he going to make it? You know? Yeah. But I couldn’t get a tea time before like 11 o’clock. So I’m like, okay, we’re gonna play right in the peak of the day. Let’s see what happens. And and my dad is tough. He’s very tough. And so I wasn’t really worried about him. And also he would tell me if he would he needed to like take a break or whatever. Mhm. And but we start playing and I we are sweating so much. Like you just immediately sweat through your shirt and you’re just so wet. And then it rained and it just start it started raining and like we didn’t there was no reaction to the fact that it was raining. It wasn’t like let’s go somewhere. It was like no this is no different than it was a second ago. Just because there’s drops hitting us. It’s no different than it was. And you think that when it starts raining, oh, it’ll cool it down a little bit. It gets hotter. The steam hits the cart path and it just starts I mean the the rain hits the the cart path and it just starts steaming up more. the changes the temperature. None. I had to get up at like 4:30 one day because Sean or Barbara was flipping out and needed to like go take a midnight dump. And this was unusual. And I was like, maybe she got into something. And I walk out there again. It’s like 4ish in the morning. Open the door and it’s just like the same temperature that it was in the middle of the day. It’s just cuz the moisture just keeps that temp. It’s crazy. And it was especially humid and hot that first week. The second week got a little bit better. But we’re uh you know, we’re about 14 holes into 18. And I’m like, Dad, I’m pretty impressed. 79y old man playing out here with us in this heat. He said, “Well, we’re not we’re not done yet.” But he did make it. He did make it because I it started hitting me. I was like, I would quit if it you didn’t have to play a certain number of holes. if like this was um a sport where you just decided you were done, but it’s not like you got to finish playing. You paid for it, so you finished playing. I was like, I would stop now. Did you see any Irish hairs? I did not. I didn’t. Uh there was What about these things called cart girls? Is that what they’re called? These things. These things I mean the concept there’s a con. Yeah. Let me say that again. These young women. What about this concept? What about this concept of golf cart girls? Uh they’re not at this point. These are women that drive around on golf carts and will sell you beers. Yeah, it’s uh I’ve noticed these on California and I guess that they exist in North Carolina, but I’ve the courses that I play in North Carolina, they don’t exist and they’ve only been on a couple of the courses I played out here. But yeah, it is a usually a young woman uh with a golf cart that has been converted into a little portable convenience store. Convenience store store with beers. Beers and snacks. And it depends. It just depends on the cart. And a little a little flirtatiousness for some a little flirtatiousness probably goes a long way. But most of the I I don’t frequent the cart cartg girl Tik Tok Tik Tok. I do. I like it. I think it’s fun. Uh but I have seen it just means it’s a cartg girl. I guess that is what I’ve seen. That’s how I know about the shirtless. And she’s filming her interactions with the the golf cart. Yeah. Making the drinks. And then there’s this one girl I like because she decorates the cart based on like holidays or birthdays. I think it’s really cute, actually. Well, the thing that I’ve noticed is the ones that end up popping up on my feed are the ones in which cart boys could happen to the guy. Why not cart boys? The guys that’s not on my feed. It’s just the girls. Yeah. I don’t think it would be as effective based on the demo of that’s out there on the golf course, but let’s see. Ladies day on a ladies golf day. I feel like that would women play golf and it’s um I’ve learned it’s also called golf. Yeah, that’s right. That was a a little Wonderh Hall joke. Yeah. So, uh, what I’ve seen is the videos where they are essentially being harassed. And the thing is is that you would think now it’s common knowledge amongst these guys that like don’t don’t have an inappropriate flirtatious rea interaction with this girl. She’s of course filming herself. First of all, don’t do that anyway. Of course. But do you not realize that she has social media and if you do something creepy, she’s gonna I I guess maybe this is becoming something people are aware of at this point, but Okay. Yeah, I didn’t know about that part of it. But no, no car girls were out there. I think it was I think this course is too hot. Too hot for car girls. I mean, not that they can’t take the heat. I’m just saying it was too hot for the golfers. Are you saying they can’t take the heat? Um, but I So the last thing that I will say, first of all, North Carolina, the more that I go back and I go back in a this is my home capacity. Yeah. The more I enjoy it. Of course, I got to see all my family, but we also Jesse and I got just to spend a lot of time just the two of us and the dogs just taking it easy. I had a uh I had an incident. There’s two two two quick things. One night we were watching a TV show uh in the media room that was featured on the ad open door, the one that we had the like argument over whether or not there should be a I wanted it to be just a big TV because it’s less trouble and she wanted the projector screen setup. It’s the projector screen setup. and uh because there were so many thunderstorms, you know, it’s not unusual for the power to go out. So, we’re sitting there watching a show and the power goes out and as soon as the power goes out, I hear voices outside. Now, you know where our house is and how far back it’s isolated. It’s isolated. It’s isolated. You hear living out here. You hear voices after the power goes out and you think somebody just cut the power off and they’re out there. That’s what I’m thinking. But they’re the voices are coming from behind me and that’s a bedroom. Uhoh. And there’s nobody here. So I skip over to the garage which is right next to the home theater. I grab a flashlight and a seven iron. Oh, because I have my golf clubs. Okay. And I go outside like I got like, you know, powerful flashlight, seven iron. I’m ready for anything. And that’s when I see no nothing. Nobody. And I’m like, there’s nobody out here. because they would I mean they there’s no place to go like there’s they I would see them if they were out here and then I like go up into the neighborhood to see am I the only house where the power’s out no other houses are out so this is a power outage and I go back in and then what I figured out is that you got the projector that’s behind us and it’s like connected to like a Roku stick or something that’s like streaming content. Uhhuh. And because as the power is shutting down on that thing, it still has this content that is streaming in like the cache or whatever. Uhhuh. And there’s sound that plays, but it’s just coming from the projector as the projector dies. And so the sound that you’ve been hearing in front of you now becomes this muffled voice you’re hearing behind you. So it was just this technological phenomenon that made me think that somebody had sabotaged my power. night and I would have hit him with the seven iron but it could have it could have been explained as a ghost. It could have been that really things I was considering. You missed that opportunity. But the other thing that I experienced on this trip that I have experienced in Los Angeles many times, but maybe life moves too fast out here to really enjoy it is my dogs play fighting with each other. Yeah. Such an source of entertainment for me and Jesse because Shawn is so crazy and he gets so excited and he bites Barbara in so many different places and she is so annoyed by it and she starts growling and she she’s like fighting him off and he’s just like running around like he gets a running start. He goes between her legs. He finds like he bites. He’ll like grab a little hair next face. And I feel a little sorry for Barbara, but we enjoy this so much. It hit me that I think that this is how dog fighting started. And now I feel guilty. It’s like the cute version. So you’re I think you’re okay. I know. But what I’m saying is am I is this inevitably leading to me getting involved in the dog fighting ring? Is that what’s going to happen? No, you’re not going to Michael Vic all of a sudden. Well, yeah. I don’t want to. Trust me, I definitely do not want to do a Michael Vic situation. I’m just saying if I continue to give into this desire to watch my dogs fight, play fight. Get some chickens. Oh, you Okay, so now you you want me you want me to get into chicken fighting. It’s not dog fights. I’m just saying I was entered I was entertained by dog fighting on my vacation. It’s like clip that out and put it on the internet. That’s what I learned about myself is that is that my dogs do that. I’m not going to say dog fighting make me cosmically horny. I’m not going to say that. No, I don’t. Um, but it was one of the things that I’ve learned about myself and my wife that we enjoy good dog fight as long as it’s our dogs and it’s not a real fight. Yeah. Uh, dog wrestling you might call it. Your dogs do this. They do that. Yeah. Have you have you have you explored the level of how entertaining it can be? Because again in and they do this in LA, but they don’t do it that often. There’s something about this these morning fights that they would have. They’re pretty even. They’re pretty even with it. Well, Barbara can take him out. He’s like a little gnat, but she’s doesn’t seem Well, it’s just she’s just annoyed by him. She’ll scream at him. He’s having fun. She’s annoyed. Both of my dogs, they’re they’re more having fun, but it doesn’t last long because they get worn out. These go quite a bit. Yeah, go quite a bit. A few rounds. I bet Sean could go. you get footage. Um, oh, you know what? Pro Jesse probably did. Oh, yeah. See if we can throw some footage in there. So, let me just say at the end of the day, uh, this was a much needed break. I came back enthused for what it is that we dooed. Um there was a lot of reflection that took place, a lot of notetaking slash introspective journaling like I picked that habit back up that had slowed down a little bit and it greatly accelerated during this time which is always a sign that I’m actually you know processing things and the thing that I think the principle that the cheesy cliche principle that Jesse and I kept talking about was human being not human doing. Well, which I’m sure somebody said at some point is and that’s a very difficult thing for me to do because even when I think about the break you said do it’s a difficult thing to do. It’s a difficult thing to be because even the breaks when I think about a break I think about the stuff you’re going to the stuff I’m going to do during the break that’s not in the realm of the stuff that I do when I’m working. Yeah. And I mean and it isn’t necessarily work. Some of it is some of it is like I want to connect with this person or I but it but I can turn it into a list of tasks. Right. And as I got towards the end of this this break and realized that there’s so much of it that I hadn’t accomplished and there was so much just being that I had done. But then I started looking at all the stuff that I had written down and the things that I had sort of realized conclusions I’d come to conversations that me and Jesse had had. I was like, “Oh, this was really important.” And I and I’ve got to get to a place where uh I can set this me this mentality in motion um earlier in the trip rather than having to take an entire month to realize it every time. Like what would it be like to be like the day comes for a break? And it really is about being and not doing. But I’m getting there and I got there by the end of it and then I had to come back and do some stuff that I’m very very excited about doing by the way. Yeah. So I’m which makes me think of I’ll plug Wonder Hole one more time. Remember to watch that. Thanks for sharing your um your break. I feel I feel actually a little relaxed having heard about it. Oh. All right. We’ll talk at you next week. Um, yeah, we we’ve got a lot that we want to let you in on about uh Wonder Hole and uh everything everything that we uh poured into that. So anxious to get that out into the world and start getting reactions from a mythical beast including you. So do it on the society and uh on YouTube every Sunday. All right. Bye-bye. Yo, Lincoln Rhett. Yeah, I just said that. Um, I heard you on the radio this morning. 1010 wins a 923 FM New York. Dude, means you really made it. Congrats. Yo, love you guys. Peace. Watch Wonderhole season 2 starting this Sunday at 11:00 a.m. Pacific, 2:00 p.m.