He was like, “I’ll give 50 pounds to whoever climbs under the table.” And there’s like, one of the Link and Rargh fans is like climbing under a table for money. And me and Kins are there, like. As you’re saying this, it just clicked. Welcome everyone to “Trevor Talks Too Much”. I just yelled that intro and I can see Jamie over there in the corner, turning the levels down. You know, it’s a good one when Jamie’s turning the levels down. The show where I bring on a couple people, sometimes. Sometimes one, sometimes two. Haven’t had three yet who knows what’s gonna happen though. And I bring them on and I see if we can become friends. I’m your host, Trevor Evarts. I am the master baker of the Mythical kitchen, Mythical swag lord, and achiever of 1,913 total level on Old School RuneScape. That’s right, it’s not that great, but it’s pretty good. And today we just have a super treat for you. Actually, I’m already friends with our guests today. We’re having on Rargh and Link. Not Rhett and Link, Rargh and Link, who are RuneScape content creators, who I’m friends with. They’re a couple of just amazing dudes. They make RuneScape YouTube videos, they stream, and we talked about all sorts of stuff. What a treat today. We talked about some of the funny things that are written on their Wiki fandom. We roasted each other a lot. A lot. We got into it, mostly me roasting them because I’m the host and that’s what I do. And then we also just got into some deeper stuff, kind of a little bit. We talked about like anxiety; life anxiety, and chasing your dreams. It was a really great conversation. Really excited to get into it. But before we do, I just wanna give everybody a little rundown of what RuneScape is, because if you don’t know what RuneScape is, and you’re gonna be confused a little bit, not a lot, we didn’t really talk about RuneScape a ton, but for those of you who don’t know, RuneScape is an MMO, an MMORPG, which is a massively multiplayer online role playing game. And it’s really old. It’s very old game. And then, in about 2011, 2010 maybe, they released a large update to the game of RuneScape, called the EOC, which is The Evolution of Combat, and it made a lot of players mad because it changed the game drastically. Some would say for the better, but a lot of people would say for the worse. And so what they did is they released what is now called Old School RuneScape, which was a 2007 port of the game, that it’s kept its old integrity. And basically what that means is that the game is a lot crappier and it takes a lot longer to do things, and it’s a lot more grindy, but a lot of people love it. And like most MMOs, you train your skills, and you get them up, and you can unlock new things and you fight monsters, and you do quests, and you can do achievements. There’s achievement diaries, there’s mini games like Pest Control, which is how you get the void night armor. And then there’s also challenges, bosses in the game, the most difficult challenge of these being the Inferno. Well, that sounds kind of cool. Yeah, it sounds kind of cool, but then you play the game and you’re like, “Wow, this sucks.” Yeah, so for those of you that aren’t familiar with RuneScape, the game is terrible. It’s a terrible game. I literally can’t play RuneScape without doing something else, that’s how boring it is. Then why do you like it so much though? ‘Cause it’s the greatest game ever. It’s the greatest, but the worst. Yeah. Okay. It’s amazing. It’s just so nostalgic. Like I’ve been playing RuneScape for ages. My freaking parents played RuneScape. We used to play together as a family on weekends in the living room. Oh, that’s nice. Yeah. And now I play it because, there’s an old saying with RuneScape, and it’s that you, you never really quit RuneScape, you just take long breaks. And that’s something that I’ve found to be very true, ’cause I’ve quit the game for like years, and I always come back. Always come back, huh? Yeah, Jagex has a hold on my soul, which is the developer for RuneScape. I was just gonna say I have no… Jagex is the developer for RuneScape and also known as lag-ex, because… I’ve talked to- I think we should keep with the actual episode and not talk about RuneScape too much. It’s gonna be fun. We actually don’t get into RuneScape too much, I just wanted to talk about it in the intro, ’cause I thought it’s be funny. Setting the scene a bit, but…. Yeah, setting the scene, but let’s get into it. Rargh and Link, they’re are a couple of great dudes. Oh boy, do we have a treat for you today. Today with me, I have Rargh and Link. Not link from “Good Mythical Morning” and not Rargh from, I don’t know where other Rargh would be from. And this is a bit of a different episode. So these guys, I’m actually already friends with them. We’re tight. We play a little Rooney together. We hang out sometimes. Link calls me drunkenly on discord from from British pubs. Oh God, we’re not getting straight into that. We’re getting straight into that. Surely… So they’re on today because I reached out to Bodi, Solo Mission, Torvesta… Wow so- Sea Engineer, Eighth place. Framed, Settled, Jimmy and none of them were available. So we got Rargh and Link on today. Wow. A Little RuneScape bros. Oh, so Trevor, I mean, we’ve got a rebuttal. Me and Kins actually had a bet on about you before we came on, and we’ve noticed you always wear hats during your podcast. So we had a $5 bet on that you would be wearing a certain color hat, and we started calling them the donut names. I went with cream backwards- And mine was black and pointy. Was the one that I thought. What? If you look at your thumbnails, you are wearing a hat in pretty much every single one. Yeah, because I don’t like to do my hair. I was going for the black beanie ’cause it points up so high. Oh, it points up. Well, here’s the thing, it’s summer now, so black beanie’s out, it’s too hot. So that was a dumb guess on your part. And then- That was, I think cream backwards is a pretty good show. Cream backwards was close. I actually probably would’ve worn that hat today, but I don’t know where it was. And also I’m wearing a black shirt and so black hat. Well, you guys are dumb for not knowing what hat I was gonna wear. Anyway, let me introduce you. Does this mean we owe Trevor five bucks? Yeah, you guys both owe me five bucks. Actually, instead of that, can we just get the gold conversion in RuneScape? ‘Cause I’m kind of broke right now. Yeah, yeah, let’s just mix some real-world trade- Let’s do something illegal. on the podcast. It’s not illegal, it’s just friends gifting friends. Anyway, everyone out there, if you haven’t figured it out, Rargh and Link are RuneScape content creators. They do a little YouTube, do a little Twitch. That’s pretty much it. That’s what they do. Which, I know what you’re thinking, “Wow, what a profession,” right? Dude, you’re selling us so low right now. Like, we’ve just come on to get roasted. I knew you guys were gonna roast me, so I had to come out firing. We thought we’d give you a warm up. We’re like, okay, let’s let him have five, ten minutes, and then we’ll just drop everything on him. You you guys roasted me right outta the gate when I did a freaking video with you, and I ended up bashing your heads in, so I don’t wanna hear it. So, our editor was sick that week and I had to edit this video. It was meant to be 45 minutes of footage from Trevor. He gave me an hour and a half of something, and all it is, is him just either blasting us, talking really nicely about us, or just talking to himself in really weird ways, mate. There’s a lot of like, internal monologue that you just say out loud. And I don’t think, you know there was much of it. Like, there was singing… It was good, it was good. Here’s the thing, like, all of my job, anytime there’s a camera on, I need to be like, talking. ‘Cause whether it’s kitchen, whether it’s here, like, there’s no dead space. I mean, occasionally when we’re cooking, like, we’ll have some time to cut around stuff, but almost always, I’m trying to like, you know, have something to go off of so they can edit around it, whatever. So then when they ask me to be in a RuneScape video with them… RuneScape is not, what I would say, an interactive game sometimes. There’s not a lot going on. Interesting game? Yeah. So, I’m just playing the game and we have like an hour of preparation time, and so for a full hour I was just talking the whole time while doing the most boring runes. Like, just running around the map, just like, walking, and I’m just blabbing the whole time. You know, I went to Ireland for five days after that, Kins, ’cause I just needed a break- See, my favorite part about that, and you actually rubbed off a bit on me a little bit, because Trevor said like, a million times, “I’m just gonna cheese it,” the whole time throughout the episode. So then I started saying it, as well. I thought you’d been saying that ages. What does that even mean? Tell us what exactly- “I’m just gonna cheese it.” You don’t know what cheesing it means? Like I do, but I’ve never heard it been said like, 19 times in an hour. I don’t even know what I was talking about. So, I appreciate most people watching this right now probably don’t know what RuneScape is, but you can buy and sell things to shops. And he’s like talking to a, this person doesn’t exist, it’s just a computer, and he’s talking to like, “I’m gonna cheese you, dude. I’m gonna cheese you, dude.” I’m like- No, oh, okay! “He’s not a real person!” What it was, I’m gonna defend myself now. No, okay, so there was- Yeah, you better. In RuneScape there’s a skill called thieving, which is where you steal stuff. And so basically, I was gonna steal stuff from this guy and then sell it back to him. But then I forget that there’s a mechanic in RuneScape, where if you steal something and the guy sees you, you can’t just sell it back to him. ‘Cause then he is like, No, you stole from me.” It’s anti-cheese. We invite him onto our video and he’s stealing from people and trying to sell them their stuff back. Awful Person. It was a good strategy, okay? It was a good strategy. Oh my God. I beat you guys! Okay. I beat them in a- He did. It’s tough when you got a couple of RuneScape YouTubers on the show, and then you’re gonna want to talk about RuneScape a lot, but then, like, nobody knows what RuneScape is. Oh, yeah, no. I mean, everybody knows what RuneScape is, but nobody knows like what you’re talking about, which is tough. I mean, I put the clip in of you talking to Josh about RuneScape in that “Mythical Kitchen” episode, and he goes like, “Oh when was the last time you were angry?” and you just say, “I was playing RuneScape…” and Josh just laughs at you. That’s all you say, “I was playing RuneScape” and he just laughs at you, and you’re like, “Okay, yeah.” It’s your guys’ job to play the game. But you look so distraught in that clip. Like you genuinely look like, you know, like some emotional scarring has happened. It was hard, man. If you play RuneScape. you know it’s tough when you get skull tricked, okay? It’s hard. I don’t wanna talk about that anymore. That’s a sore spot. Yeah, that’s fine, that’s fine. Do you guys have like any other interests other than RuneScape? That’s all we do. That’s all we do, That’s all we talk about. We’re gonna talk about RuneScape for the next 45 minutes. Nothing else. I play football, soccer. Oh, classic British guy. That’s what we should some time. It’s soccer dude. Is roast the British. Yeah, and I drink tea and eat scones. Would you like some tea and crumpets- Great stuff. Mr. Link? Yeah, get the water bottle out the way, as well. Go on, I know you wanna do it. Water bottle? There you go. It’s brilliant. Wait, wait, one more? Okay, yeah, it’s in my interest. Tuesday inn’it. You sound like you sound like a 1920s pauper. Like, what’s going on there, mate? I dunno how to respond to that. Oh, my God. You don’t. You don’t. So Rarghkins. also anyone Link calls Rarghkins; that’s his other name because Rargh’s middle name is Kinsley. Is it? Is it Trevor? Yeah, so how did you guys meet? Because you live in the UK, Link. Rargh, you live on the east coast of the United States of America. How did you guys even meet? I feel like Link should start this story. Yeah. Yeah, so I went on holiday when I was six to the east coast. Sorry, for those American listeners, “holiday” is a vacation. Vacation. So I listen to Harry Potter audio books. I listen to the American version and they’re like, “Mr. and Mr. Dursley went on vacation” and I’m like, “Yeah, okay, they went on holiday.” Anyway, sorry. sorry, pet peeve of mine. Like motorway and highway, like just- Motorway? Motorway. Just say motorway. Motorway. Sorry. Anyway, so YouTube back in the day, like five years ago, used to have a messaging system, where you could literally message anyone you want. Like, if it was today, I could just message Mr. Beast and it would go to his YouTube channel, but that doesn’t happen anymore, you know? So, back then you could just message whoever you wanted. I messaged Rargh and I was like, “Hey man, really like your content.” I’d never seen one of his videos. Actually, I’d seen one- Oh no don’t. Don’t say “the Cowman”! One video. Link! The Cowman video. Oh, oh my God- No, stop! Is there any chance we can get a little clip of this? Yeah. Yeah, we can. No, no. Yeah. Jamie can make that happen. Jamie’s on it. Oh, my God. Oh Jamie, no. Jamie no! It’s called “The Cowman” or something. It’s on Rargh’s channel somewhere. I will say, in doing research, I did come across that that video. I did. How? Because I- Do you know how far down you have to scroll to find that? Well, there’s this fun thing called sort oldest to newest. Why would you go down that far? That’s how I find the stuff. Oh, Jamie, whatever they’re paying you, they need to double it. That’s amazing. No, wait, wait. I think the question was how we met, not cowman. Yeah. I mean it’s is the most cringest video ever, and for whatever reason, I decided to go ahead and go, “Hey dude, love your content-” Yeah, you watched it then hit me up. And that’s all I’ve seen. Oh my God, yeah, and I had 200 subscribers, he had like, 300. So like we’re OG OG. Like, we didn’t have any following at all. And he was like, yeah, let’s make some videos. And we just started making videos from there and been doing it for four or five years now. Ever since the first one, too, dude, we’ve been like, tight as hell since the first collab we ever did. And like that call was so awkward, like, the amount of nervous giggles that we had flowing around. That’s how Kins started. It was so awkward that I thought… You know, back in the day, me and Kins, we worked normal jobs. We weren’t like very good at being in calls and talking to new people and stuff. So I called Rarghykins, ’cause back then me thought that would make the mood lighter? I don’t know. So I was there like, “Hey, Rarghykins”. Like yeah, let’s make some videos and you just became Kins ever since then. Like, weird, Weird, weird beginning. So, yeah. I called it Linkypoo but that one didn’t stick, so unfortunately…. Yeah, I mean imagine, imagine Trevor was like, “We’ve got Kins and Poo on today.” Like, come on!. “Kins and Poo.” “Kins and Poo.” Oh man. No, that’s it now. That’s it. Yeah, brilliant. But yeah, it’s really nice to have someone, especially in the YouTube game, that I know is so, like, dependable on, because like, we came from absolutely nowhere together, so I know this man’s got my back, whatever happens, which is really nice to have. I mean, as far as YouTube duos go, I mean, I was watching your content like, before we ever even met. Like, I was just watching “Then We Fights,” and you guys are hilarious. The back and forth? It’s so funny. And then I followed Link on Twitter, I think, Team Link, and then he never followed me back. Painful dude. And I remember when I followed him, I probably had like, I don’t know, like 25K followers on Twitter at the time, or something, and he had like, 3K. You know, that’s my boy. Are we playing the popularity game? And so I was like, “I’ll probably follow him and he’ll just follow me right back, like, ’cause, you know, he’ll probably get the notification.” Then he didn’t, and I was like a little hurt. I was like, “Oh he didn’t even follow me back.” Arrogant podcaster. Yeah, arrogant, that’s me. Wow. I was a little offended. But then eventually he did. So, at the time, I didn’t watch much “Mythical Kitchen.” I was watching “Good Mythical Morning.” I’m sorry, you know, I just didn’t. And then I started watching “Mythical Kitchen”. And then, I think you liked one of my tweets and I was like, “Where do I know this guy from?” Like, “This weird hat-wearing ginger guy?” Like, “I know him from somewhere.” And then I pieced it together and I was like, “Ah, now he can get the follow.” That was almost verbatim his actual first DM to me on Twitter, except he used a lot more expletives in the DM. And I won’t repeat it ’cause it was very explicit, but that’s just how he is, and that’s why we love him. It was so explicit that you literally asked me not to use two of those words before this podcast started. Trevor, you should have seen how bad Link freaked out messaging me that he was talking to you. Really? It’s funny. He was like, “Dude, Trevor from ‘Mythical Kitchen’.” I’m like, “Who?” Like, “I don’t know who that is.” Whoa, what? Wait a second. What do you mean, “Who?” That’s why I’m Team Link. My guy, my guy, my guy. Yeah, no. I mean, we know that, you know, once a bit of alcohol has been in me, I become too much of a Trevor fan. It’s bad. It’s actually hilarious. ‘Cause Link does a lot of drinking in streams and then I’ll see him live. I do not! Let’s not put me up to be an alcoholic! He does. No. I do one a week! Don’t deny it. One a week. Dude, you did two, literally, this week, bro. Well, okay, okay. It’s funny ’cause you he’s such an alcoholic that you go into his stream and he has a little graphic on the screen for how many drinks he’s had. Sorry, one sec. Link is just like… Yeah, his dog is also named after himself and I’m the one with an ego. No, this guy though. he’ll be streaming, he’ll be drinking, and I’ll hop in, I’ll be like, “Oh that’s my boy. He’s live.” And I’ll send one message in the chat box and all of a sudden it’s full screen webcam and he pulls his mic and he goes, “Trevor. Trevor, mate. We got Trevor from “Mythical Kitchen” in the chat. Trevor, Trevor.” And he just says my name over and over again. Sounds like Austin Powers. Yeah. It’s great though. It’s like the biggest ego boost for me. Oh man. Oh, I’m glad that whenever you are feeling low, you think, “I’ll go watch that alcoholic so he can make me feel better.” This is so great. There’s sometimes I have to calm this man down. Like, stop talking about Trevor so much. I’m like a- I’m like, “You’re gonna scare him away, dude. You’re gonna scare him away.” Kins made the moderators make a exclamation mark, Trevor. That was a command for you, and it was like, “Nobody mention Trevor, ’cause it was set Link off,” or something like that. Like, we had an actual command to stop me. It’s bad. It’s bad. I dunno. I dunno what it is. Viewers in his chat can like, donate a certain amount or something and they get to like pick a card that he has to do, and one of them is just to message me. So every once in a while, I’ll just get a random message from Link saying just whatever, and I’m like, “Oh what’s up?” And I was like, “Ah, somebody probably had a message where he’s like…” And then he’s just like, “Don’t come to this stream,” and then I have to come. See, this is the best way I’ve ever covered up the weird things I sent to Trevor. I’d just say, “Oh no, someone in the chat made me say that. No, no, no, no, no, no.” The worst part is there’s not actually a card for you. The viewers just choose you instead of like, Rargh, or something. So, yeah. One time, I was just on your guys’ stream, you guys weren’t even doing anything. I think you were both like intoxicated and you were supposed to do a PvP challenge, but you were just standing doing nothing. And I just showed up in the game and you started telling this story about how I lost like, a bunch of money when I got skull tricked and then some random guy just came up and just donated me like, tassets. Just like a really- Wow, yeah, I remember. Yeah, like a guy just came and gave me a bunch of GP in RuneScape, and I was like, “This is the best day ever.” Like, I gotta start asking their viewers for gold donations. Oh man. Extorting us now. Well, ow we know why we’re on here, Link. Yeah, if you’re listening and you have a lot of GP in RuneScape that you don’t use, I will gladly take it. I’ve had people offer me real life money before, actually. Like, they’ll be like, “What’s your Cash App? Like, I wanna give you money.” And I’m like, “No, I don’t feel comfortable with that. That’s like weird.” But if somebody offers me RuneScape money, I will not turn it down. You’ll just take it. Yeah. So if someone walks down the street and they’re like, “Yo dude, log in now,” and you’re just like on the street, on your mobiles, like trading- More than happy. You’d be more than happy with that? Yeah. If you wanna gimme RuneScape gold, please add me in game. My name is Shoopdiesel. I’ll be on. This is Trevor’s address, so just go to his house guys. So if you wanna get… All right. Link hates me, everyone. I’m team I’m team Rargh, now. It’s that easy, you know? Dude, he didn’t even know who you were. So, you know, come on, come back. Come back. Yeah, but Rargh and I play Valorant together. You can’t play Valorant with us because you live in the UK and your ping is terrible. Oh, my God. Yeah, and playing with Link, the whole time, “Ah, my ping is so bad. That’s why I’m sucking.” That’s why you’re sucking. He’s like eight drinks deep talking about, “Oh man. Oh my ping wasn’t so bad, mate. Oh, that would’ve been a kill. That would’ve been a kill, man.” Just such a pleasure to come on. Such a pleasure. This is the greatest. I love this. This is so much fun. When are you guys gonna have me back on your stream? You haven’t asked me in a long time. Oh, dude. We were actually- Okay, another drunk stream. So, you know- Oh God, this is bad. This is bad. Dude, we were- What if our families watched this, Kins? I don’t think your families watch my podcast. I dunno. Maybe, maybe Papa Link is a big fan. Sorry, Kins. Carry on, carry on. We were actually seriously talking about it, and the entire chat was just like, so excited just when your name pops up. So, yeah. We should extend an official invitation right now. Trevor, when, when do you wanna be on? Dude, I do nothing. I mean, you guys always like, have to stream late at night anyway, don’t you? I feel like you do, like afternoon. Yeah, I have to work around his schedule ’cause like most of the viewership is American, so it makes much more sense to do it. Kins is about to go off on me. I saw his face. Yeah, yeah, around my schedule. He chooses to go live the time he does on a Friday. I’m not on his Friday streams. Ah, but yeah- Work around my schedule- most the viewership’s- my butt, dude. American, so… I remember when I recorded with you guys and like, we got done and Link’s just like, “Oh man, it’s 5:00 AM. I gotta go to bed, mate.” And I was like, “Sorry. Maybe don’t live in the UK.” But he’ll still talk to you for 25 more minutes. Cornball. Yeah, I stayed up till 5:00, 6:00 AM playing with you guys and then had to edit his footage. Oh God, that was awful. Whatever. Whatever. It’s only his job guys. He gets paid to do that by the way, you know? Yeah, that’s like me complaining about like, cooking. Like, “Oh man, I had to make another Flamin’ Hot Cheeto burger. Worst week ever.” Link, I have a question for you, specifically. So, according to some online sources that we have, is it true that you call your phallic member, we’ll call it, the Rune Skimmy? Your pee-pee? Your ding-dong? Do you know what, I know this banter exists, but it’s like a good three years old. I haven’t heard it in three years. I guess, yeah, I should start calling it that, then. So here’s my question… For those of you that don’t play RuneScape, the rune scimitar is not the best scimitar in the game and you chose it. Okay, bro, if you are gonna be like, “Oh, I’m the LeBron James’s penises,” like, I’m sorry, that’s too much. That’s too much. You gotta go a bit lower, you know? You gotta shoot a bit lower, but maybe I’ll try it. Maybe, that’s my new pickup line in clubs. I’m like, “Yo, you wanna see the Dragon scimi?” which is a better variance. It’s still not nearly the best weapon in the game, though. Like, I feel like that’s not too much of a step up. I think it depends. Depends what you’re tackling, you know? I want you to try that and you let me know how it goes. I will, mate. I’ll call you. “Trevor, Trevor, I’m 11 drinks deep.” Okay, so literally, Link one time, I got a video call on Discord from Link and I was still at work. It was like 5:00 PM and I was just like, “Why is he calling me? I wonder if like something’s up.” And I answer and this dude is just like, walking the street, the worst internet connection ever. Just this blurry face, like, you know, “Trevor, mate. Trevor, these are my mates.” And then he just like introduced me to all of his friends. I was like, “Dude, I have a job. I’m at work. I have to like, go cook stuff. Like, are you okay? Do you need help?” I mean, if it makes you feel better, I feel like anyone I know, including Kins, has been through that. That’s like, the ritual of becoming one of my friends. Good, I’m glad. I’m actually sad it doesn’t happen more often. Rargh, I have a question. This is something that’s been weighing on a lot of the viewers’ minds. Yes, hello. I believe you’re on record as saying that you would not help up a grandma who fell over in Tesco because, “You wouldn’t get anything out of it.” So do we wanna talk about that? I know this is shocking for a lot of you listeners at home. This is just coming to us live. Where are you getting…? These happen on like super late, like, backend on streams to like 80 people. And they just like, somehow make it out in the internet and then you guys find it. Yeah. I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. Wow. Do you still hold the same opinion, or would you still not help a grandmother who fell over in a Tesco. Can you paint the scenario for me? What happens? Yeah. You’re walking through a Tesco and you see an old lady fall over. Do you help her up or not? That’s the scenario? Pretty simple. Pretty clear cut, here. Do I get anything out of it? You want crisp fiver? You want, like, what are we talking here? You know, I’d think about it. I’d think about it. She’s so helpless and you’re just that like, “Hm.” I’m like, “Yeah, she’s really struggling there-” It’s though, man- “Seems like she could use my help right now.” I mean, I kind of got places to be. I got RuneScape to play. Very important stuff going on. Also this is all from like wiki fandoms, which I’m pretty sure just people write in there to troll and no one checks, which I think is hilarious. Oh, the shot over the shoulder is definitely on your list of things to talk about, I know it. Rargh was allegedly sued by an anonymous woman who complained of an accident that Rargh caused. She alleges that she slipped and broke her leg on a slippery patch of pavement caused by Rargh throwing alcohol out of a window. Care to comment? Same lady that probably slipped at Tesco’s, dude. They’re setting me up. I’m just putting him on trial right now. Yeah, dude. So sometimes, you know, these streams where we drink goes too in depth, and Link’s 14 drinks in, I should be 14, but instead I just chuck ’em over my shoulder. Yeah. So I have like, a pool of like, alcohol on my floor at the end of an stream. Yeah, that seems hygienic. Yeah. But that’s just a bit, you know. Nobody actually slipped and fell on the pavement outside your window. I mean, I didn’t see it happen, you know? Wow. Plead the fifth. No, he’s under a contract not to say anything. Oh, I see, okay. They came to us all. Yeah, the trial still ongoing. Okay, this is the final thing that we got from Wiki fandoms, and I think this one’s hilarious. Link, this is another one for you. This just cracked me up. Ah, great. You have an ongoing legal battle with a viewer as well, regarding potential false information shared. The viewer alleges that when they asked Link how he opens his throat to down a pint so quickly, Link advised them to go to the pub toilets. The viewer claims that, while he didn’t learn to open something, it was not his throat. Care to comment? I cannot believe that you had the cheek to tell me not to swear that much, and you’re talking about me inviting viewers into toilets! Jesus! Oh, God. Right, yeah, so on my Friday streams, there’s a drinking game where I have to down a drink as quickly as possible, where the viewers guess how long it’s gonna take me. And a lot of people are like, “Wow, you do it so quickly.” And yeah, so I did invite the whole chat to, you know, come into a toilet and be taught how to do it. You know, I’ve gotta be honest, I lost the case. You know, I’ve gotta be honest about it. He lost the civil suit. I feel like me and Kins came into this like, “We’ve gotta behave and be good,” and I’m just like, I’m not in that mood of like going that far. Incredible, yeah, incredible. That’s why. I wanted to make you feel that way. I wanted to feel like you had to be well behaved and buttoned up and then I was just gonna come in hard. I will say, when researching, that I was like, I just put a whole section I was like, “You just need to read verbatim from the wiki.” Yeah. What I would like to see is, we still haven’t seen “The Cowman” and I know that’s gone under the radar. I hate you, Like. Why? Here’s a question- I though we were on the same team here. I just wanted to make sure. We just got grilled for 20 minutes. We’re on the same team, bro. No, no. I feel like you’ve been like, piggybacking off Trevor and I’m gonna start here and fight For myself. You know? It was my plan going into the show, actually, because I was like, you guys teamed up on me when I was on your channel. But, my plan going into this was like, I’m gonna try and divide them and then just bounce back and forth between the sides. I’m just gonna divide them- Wow, Link, you let him do that. Link, you’re letting him do that. Yeah, Link, you are. I almost feel like he’s gonna make it happen, whatever happens, though See, he’s already giving up. We’re natural enemies, Kins. Every video we’re against each other. It feels right to go against you- It’s true. You know? He’s using our nature against us. Like, what would be the game that you guys would play if you didn’t play RuneScape? I genuinely think I play more Clash Royale than RuneScape right now. Sorry. Hold on. I love Clash Royale so much. Clash Royale? Yeah, what’s wrong with that? The mobile game? The spinoff of Clash of Clans? Yeah! Dude. There’s sometimes we’re gonna fight and Link’s like, “Oh yeah, just gimme 20 minutes. I’m finishing up a game of Clash Royale.” Miss me, miss me. A game of Clash Royale takes like, five minutes max. Wow. Yeah. Have you ever played it? I know what Clash Royale is. No! Have you ever played it, though? Well, don’t laugh until you’re giving it a go, mate. It’s as addicting as that Diet Coke- It’s a spinoff of Clash of Clans! It’s so good! It’s nothing like Clash of Clans, though. It’s just the same characters and stuff. You couldn’t have given me a worse answer. No. I was like, “If you guys didn’t play RuneScape, what would be the game?” and this guy says Clash Royale. “I’ve been playing a lot of Clash Royale.” That’s like, if you asked me, like, “What would you be doing if you weren’t doing a cooking show?” I was like, you know- Do you wanna know my all-time play time on Clash Royale? No God, no. It’s bad. Let’s hear it. Hey Trevor, your question was geared to what would WE play, right? This man’s just like, “I play Clash Royale” Yeah, no, I wasn’t asking for his hobbies. Yeah like, What games do you like to play on the side?” “Well, you know, I like to play Clash Royale” Let’s see it. I have- Let’s all take like a bet. I’m saying- Seven- I was Gonna Say 80 something, oh. 80 hours. I have 7 days, 12 hours play time. Seven days, 12 hours. Seven times 24, hold on… Oh my gosh. That’s like 180 hours. Yeah. Link. What? In a mobile game that takes five minutes to play a game. What? Yeah. That’s like more than most games on Steam for me. Yeah, but you’re not a gamer. I what? You cook for a living. I would say he’s a gamer. I’m more of a gamer than you are. You play RuneScape! What? What? Yeah, I didn’t realize that Clash Royale was gonna get destroyed this hard. I thought it was pretty normal to play Clash Royale. This guy plays Clash Royale and Old School RuneScape and he said, I’m not a gamer. Oh my God. Are you guys gonna give me a real answer? Mate, I’m just thinking about Clash Royale now. You know, that’s all I got in my mind. I can’t wait to be done with the podcast so I can go play Clash Royale. Link, do you wanna leave? I can finish it off with Kins. I’d be happy to have a beautiful conversation with Kins if you wanna go play Clash Royale. Yeah, okay, all right. He’s probably playing right now. Yeah, cheers guys. I appreciate it. Dude, dude, do not! If you start a game of Clash Royale right now- Dude, come on! Dude, come on, bro! No. That’s it. I’m team Rargh all the way. Team Rargh. This guy just opened a game of Clash Royale in the middle of my podcast. What’s like, the weirdest fan interaction that you guys have had? Some guy tried to give Link and I like a $20 bill. He was like, “Dude, no thanks.” What? Like in public? Yeah, like and IRL donation, in public, at a bar. It was 50 pounds, Kins. It was 50? Okay. It was 50 pounds. It wasn’t 20. I thought it was 20. Wait, so Kins, ere you in the UK at the time? Yeah, for RuneFest 2019, and RuneFest that day, I don’t remember if it was the last day or not, but there’s just like, a bar close by, so a lot of people just naturally went there and we had like a little posse following us. So then we walked over there and then when we were sitting down, I mean, I won’t say his name, but he walks over and just tries to like shove us 50 pounds and is like, “Split it, guys.” We’re like, “That’s kind of weird, bro.” We don’t just wanna take money off your hands. And, and then, I don’t know, maybe it was dirty money or something, ’cause he was like, “Right. I need to give it. I need to give it to someone.” And then he was like, “I’ll give 50 pounds to whoever climbs under the table.” And there’s like, one of the Link and Rargh fans is like, climbing under a table for money. Me and Kins are there, like… As you saying this it just clicked. Yeah, okay. We’ve been there like just previously signing t-shirts and saying, “Hey, lovely you to meet you,” and then two minutes later it’s like Armageddon and people are like diving under the table to make money. It’s weird. Weird. Guy probably didn’t even know who you were, but he just heard that you were YouTube content creators. He’s like, “Oh these guys make RuneScape videos on YouTube, I better toss ’em a 50.” Better toss ’em a fiddy, they probably need it. Yeah, times are hard. Times are hard. So definitely the craziest. Definitely the craziest. Yeah, that was pretty odd. That was pretty odd. I mean, I had one where I was at the convention as well, and some guy just walked up to me with like, a bottle of wine, like concealed, and like, you weren’t allowed to bring alcohol into the venue. And he had this like bottle of wine concealed and I stupidly By hindsight, I shouldn’t have. I don’t know what was in that. This is why you’re the alcoholic. He;s there like, slipin’ it to me. He’s like, “You like that, Link? You like that?” I’m like, “Yeah. Yeah. It’s quite nice. Okay, thanks.” And then the security see him and he got kicked of the event. I saw the whole thing happen. I saw the whole thing go down. You’re telling me a guy was secretly feeding you alcohol and going, “Yeah, you like that, buddy? You like that?” I mean, I can’t quote him- That’s not verbatim. but questionable things were being said in my ear while drinking his red wine, I’ll tell you that. Yeah, that’s pretty questionable. I gotta say, that doesn’t sound like a normal… Link, we’re selling ourselves great on this podcast. We’re not, are we? We seem like complete degenerates, which to be fair, we sort of are, so, you know. It’s just so weird, no one’s gonna believe us, but we’re so put together behind the scenes. The camera goes on, like, we drop 70 IQ, you know? Genuinely, genuinely we do. We do. I feel like if real Rargh had to speak to stupid Link all the time, he’d be so sick of me, you know? Like we do put on this stupid persona when we get in front of a camera. And then when it comes to like, a Discord call between us, we’re like, “Right, so, the CTR on this video was 17.2%. How can we bring that up by 1.3%?” You know? Like, we get very analytical when it’s just me and Kins. But I like to talk, you know? I probably talk more than Trevor, which, that’s impressive. That’s impressive. Yeah, that’s impressive buddy. Literally, when I went on your show, the first thing you said is, “Oh, Trevor’s gonna be talking a lot. Trevor from “Trevor Talks Too Much,” mate. “We’re gonna have to cut lot of this out.” I did roast the podcast quite long, didn’t I? I’m sorry. I deserve everything I’m getting right now. Literally a hater. I have no good questions to ask you ’cause they’re all about RuneScape. Oh God. Yeah. I mean, we try to make a lot of our streams not… Like, we’re obviously playing RuneScape, but a lot of them aren’t RuneScape focused, if that makes sense. So, I mean, we try to get as creative as possible. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t, but- There’s some ridiculously talented players in the game who are way better than me and Kins are in every single way. And we are never gonna match up to that. So what we do, is we are known as the real heads, to be honest, sorry. Sorry for the language, but yeah. No it’s okay. Of the category and we just sort of like, do our own thing like that. We’re like, you know, those children are like, when you’re at like primary school or something, you just leave them alone, you know? ‘Cause it’s like, “No, those guys, it’s not worth it” ‘Cause they’re eating dirt. “cause they’re eating dirt. Two kid eating dirt in the corner, it’s like, “Don’t talk to them. They’re having a good time, Leave them to it. Just leave them be. I mean, there’s something to be said about like, especially with a game like RuneScape, when the content is just so like, pretty uninteresting at times, like, you do just have to have a good personality. And I think you could say that for like, anybody that’s successful in the RuneScape scene. Like, pretty much everyone has like a really cool, unique personality and I think that’s why people watch the videos. But, the RuneScape community is so funny. ’cause everybody, I feel like, is just friends, and everybody knows each other. And so then you’ll have like one person that makes a video that you like, and then you’ll just hear a clip from like their gameplay, and they’re just in a call with like, three other RuneScape YouTubers that you like. And it’s just the greatest. I don’t know. It’s fun. It’s definitely very like, friendly between everyone which is good to see. Except Tanzoo and Virtoso, right? Well, you know, if we wanna get into another legal battle, you know, and then… No, I had to do some commentating- We’re all good. I had to do some commentating with Virtoso on an eSports with him and it went really well. It went really well. I was calling him Jedi. I’m sorry. It’s all good. It’s just, there’s there’s so many like, misconceptions about that and like, one of their fans, I’m not saying they would like send them over, but they’ll like, assume we stole every idea we ever had from them and it’s like, if you actually watched, you’d see it’s a little different. Or a lot different. Well also, there’s only so much you can do in RuneScape. Like Settled, dropped his tile man video and now everybody’s doing a tile Yo Link, let’s not jump on that band wagon. Yeah. let’s definitely not. There’s no way I’m gonna follow and Settled’s footsteps. Oh man. What do your guys’ like, families know about your job? Like how much do they know about what you do. Kins? You wanna go first. Yeah, I’ll go first. They’re pretty in the dark about it. For the longest time, I didn’t even tell my channel name ’cause like, I’d be streaming and like, you know, I might be drinking, saying like some really dumb thing on stream. And like, I don’t want my mom watching that, you know? You know, like, I don’t do anything too bad, but I don’t wanna be at like a family dinner and they’re like, “So, the thing you did on your Saturday stream…” You know, why? Let’s not talk about that, you know? Like there’s weird jokes about like, my knees selling for $500. Like I don’t want these things to be brought up by… The knees, mate. Someone genuinely paid $500 for his knees though. Like that genuinely happened. What? For a picture of his knees, someone paid $500. Like, he has sold pictures of his body. You have sold a picture of your knees- Okay. All right. for 500- The way- Hold on! How nice are your knees, bro? That better not be the title of this podcast. No, that’s the title. That better not be the title. I’ve seen the titles you guys pick. They’re weird. That cannot be the title. That’s gotta be the title. You know NFTs? Kin’s great at them. The first NFT, his knees. Was his knees. The knees actually, the N and NFT stands for knee. Knee fungible tokens. There you go. There you go. The more you know. The more you know. Selling knee pics, 500 bucks. You actually sold the photo of your knees for $500. All right, sold is the wrong word. No Mm is it? The only way to get a picture of my knees is to send me 500. That’s selling. That’s selling. Okay, I was on stream. It was a donation. It’s a tip. I was tipped money, and I just said, you know what? That was really generous. Sure. Someone paid you for a service, is what happened. That sounds like a little circular reasoning there. You got paid $500 for you knee. I need to see that photo. I’m not paying $500. It’s actually a really bad photo. I gotta see- Good luck finding it. Good luck finding it. Take it out the Mythical budget. Yeah, can we put that on the company card, Jamie? Can we put that on the company card? Yeah, yeah, you guys could buy a pic of my knees. What were we talking about? Oh, how much your parents know about what you do. Yeah, Link, you. I think that’s the reason why Rargh didn’t want his family knowing because he was selling his body online. So that… Yeah, so it’s a weird one. It’s a weird one because like, as I said, I was a web developer and my dad paid for me to go through three years of school to become a web developer, and I literally did it for like six months after that. And it was going quite well, and then I had to like turn around to my dad and be like, “Oh, actually now I’m gonna play RuneScape on the internet.” And he knew what RuneScape was, ’cause like, when I was like a kid, he’d be like, “Do your homework,” and I’d be like, “They’re like, killing a green dragon” or something. He’d be like, “Dude,” like, “What, what is wrong with my child?” you know. “Why is he doing this?” sort of thing. So it was actually really difficult to like, tell my parents and stuff and be like, “Yeah, I’m dropping all that.” And they were super proud of me starting business doing that. And obviously none of them believe in playing games on the internet ’cause they’re all the generation above us. And then, sort of, they started realizing that actually it’s done really well and you know, everything’s really good. And ever since then, they’ve been like super supportive which is pretty cool, so yeah. I’ve kind of accepted that I’m like, the degenerate in my family. ‘Cause I used to be worried like, “Oh no, I don’t want my parents to see me being an idiot.” And then, there came a point when I was like, “You know what, it’s gonna happen one way or another. So I’m just gonna be myself.” I mean, they’ve grown up with you all your life, though. They know how much of an idiot you are. Yeah, thanks for that. Just like my dad, they’ve known there was something wrong with you all your whole life, so. Yeah, that’s true. but it’s like, there’s more opportunities to be dumb when you’re older, you know? Like, every kid is like dumb in some way, you know? You’re a kid, and then you get older and it’s like, “Oh, do you grow up or you still an idiot?” I’m still an idiot. Yeah, but I feel like when I actually grew up, you realize that being adult isn’t anything like how you imagined it as being when you were a kid, sort of thing. Like you realize you still probably a kid at heart, and you still wanna play video games, and you still don’t wanna go to work, and you still wanna sleep until, you know, 12:00 PM. You know?. I think you just realize no one has their together. Yeah, you really do. Everyone thinks like, oh I’ll be 25. I’ll know what I’m doing. I’ll know exactly what I wanna do in life and where I wanna be. No. No. Look at 40, 45 year olds, they’re like, “Yeah, I dunno what I wanna do. I’m just chilling and having a good time.” It’s almost a great way to live. It’s just like, “Yeah, I’m just doing what I wanna do right now.” Yeah. There’s no right timeline. That’s something that I always say like, ’cause I know destiny has gotten like, you know… ‘Cause she isn’t sure what she wants to do. She has a degree in biology, but she just doesn’t know exactly what she wants to do. I’m like, “There’s no like, timeline. It’s not like you have to check a box by a certain age.” Like, you can do whatever. Like people feel like they have to, you know.. It’s like, “Oh, if I’m not doing this by 25, I’m a failure.” ‘Cause I definitely did that to myself, you know? Like when I graduated college, this whole YouTube thing, I was a really, really small YouTuber at this point with Link. I don’t know, like, maybe 5,000 subs, but I wanted to do it so bad. And then I was pretty torn and Link like, quit his web development job with like, 5,000 subs, so I’m like, “Yo, I gotta step the heck up here,” you know? It’s pretty interesting you say that, Like, I think Kins, you’re a classic case of someone who feels like if they didn’t do something or they weren’t doing the job they were meant to, they were a failure. And I know you really struggled with that. Kins really struggled with like, “I really wanna do YouTube, but like I’ve done all this like, work to get to where I am in accounting. My whole family want me to do this and that.” And it’s like, at the end of the day, you took the leap. Yes, it could have gone wrong. But like, I think you would’ve been eaten up inside if you hadn’t taken leap, so. I don’t know. – That would be my advice is- I would’ve had regrets my entire life if I didn’t… Take the leap and just see what happens. And worst case scenario, you have to just go back to what you were doing before and restart. Especially when you’re young, just like do what makes you happy. Like, do what you enjoy, you know, chase your passions, chase your dreams, and you’ll find like where you feel like you fit, you know? You’ll find the things that really make you happy, and maybe something that you thought made you happy you don’t really love as much. Just like try things out and don’t feel like you have to have a plan. ‘Cause I remember like, when I was graduating high school, I felt like I have to have a plan, to get a degree, to then go into a job, and that’s what I have to do. And like, that’s not the case. At all. What’s it been like for you Trevor? I mean, I don’t, I feel like no one asks you this. ‘Cause like, you had to move, you know, states and you had to like, come and work here. Like, what’s it been like? Like meeting everyone and… Just changing career completely. It’s pretty crazy, ’cause when I first graduated high school, I had no clue what I wanted to do. And I just went to college like, just cause I was like, “I gotta do something.” And my parents were kinda like, “Yeah, you gotta do something.” And so I just went to like, school for a year. I didn’t like, have a major or anything. I was just kind of doing some general education stuff. Then my friend Eric and I, we kind of just were joking around about how we both loved cooking and like, “Oh, what if we like opened up a bakery or restaurant or something?” And then like, literally from that point, it was like, two weeks later we’d like, assigned up and been accepted to culinary school in Los Angeles. Like, just crazy stuff. Yeah, that’s thick though. Just taking a leap, you know? Taking a leap, moving to LA with Eric, but essentially by myself, like, and then, you know, going into working at a bakery for like a year, which was really hard And I wasn’t sure if it was something that I wanted to do. And I had a lot of anxiety then ’cause I was like, “I just spent a bunch of money on culinary school. I’ve been working in this bakery for a year and I don’t even know if this is something that I want to do, like.” And then I sent a random email, heard back, got an interview., and now I have like, the coolest job ever with a bunch of really amazing people. Yeah, that’s a crazy success story right there, you know? Just tossed out an email, you know? But like, I mean, yeah, shoot your shot, honestly. Like, you can’t do any harm to yourself by just shooting your shot and like trying to make your dreams happen. And you know, if it didn’t work out, I would’ve been, you know, still at the bakery or find a new job at a restaurant or whatever. Maybe I’d open my own restaurant who knows, like. I mean, there’s so many things you can do, so I think it’s just really important to figure out what you like try and, you know, make your passions your career. And like, when you tried to like, send the email over to Mythical and you were like, “Oh, just I’ll just do it anyway,” like, I’m pretty sure you were like, “It’s probably not gonna happen, but I’m just gonna do it anyway.” And boom, you know, like, it didn’t hurt you in any way to do that. So, I mean, if one person listening right now just goes, “Yeah, I’m gonna send that email to this person or I’m gonna put my CV in some way, you might just get it. And don’t don’t let failure stop you, ’cause you’ll fail probably 17 times and the 18th time, that’s when it works out. Link and I combined probably have 80 YouTube channels that we tried before the ones that worked out. So, you know… Yeah, probably. There’s some really bad… I’m glad Jamie didn’t find any of that. Oh my God. Do a deep dive. No, no, no, no. That’s so funny. I feel bad for whoever like, reads through the business email at mythical now, though, ’cause they’re probably gonna have a lot of emails after this. The lines are now open guys. Go, go, go, go. Oh, no. Well- Sorry. Sorry. Well, guys, are we still friends after that? Ooh. We are. You’re still invited on- Don’t know about that one, Trev. What? I literally went from team Link to team Rargh in this episode and now you’re the one saying “I don’t know about that.” I’m back on team Link. No, wait! Don’t end the episode like that! It’s that third time he’s yo-yoed. He’s been on team Rargh three times this episode. He’s just baitin’ us, dude. Oh man. Do you guys wanna plug yourselves? Do you want me to plug you? I’d feel comfortable doing it for you. Ooh, that sounds very- Okay, so- Spicy. Plug me. So you’re gonna wanna check out both of them on YouTube. So we’ve got Rargh, which is R A R G H, Rargh on YouTube, and then Linksocarina on YouTube. They both also stream on YouTube and then their Twitch channel is called “Then We Fight.” Is that correct? Correct. That’s joint owned between the two of us on Twitch. That’s where they stream together. But seriously, I genuinely like, love both of you guys. Your content is amazing. It’s great. I’m glad that we- We got something nice out of him today. Nah, it’s too wholesome. It feels wrong. I gotta end it wholesome. I’m so glad that I was able to meet you guys. You two are great. I love hanging out with you. Appreciate it. Nice. It’s been a pleasure being on here. It’s been so fun. Go check out all their stuff. They’ve got tons of stuff coming out all the time. Tons of streams. Go catch Link drunk, and then mention my name, and it’ll be really funny. Trevor might be there, guys. Yeah, who knows? I feel better for the Mythical email people now, ’cause now I’m gonna get every Friday, “Trevor, Trevor, Trevor.” Oh, thank you guys for being on the show. What a treat. Wow, what a treat That was, everyone. Please, do go check out Rargh and Link. Even if you don’t like RuneScape, I barely play the game anymore, and I still like, love their content. They’re really funny guys. So go check ’em out on YouTube, Twitch, and I don’t know, I guess you can follow ’em on social media, but neither of ’em really use social media that much. So, who cares? But Jamie, how do you think that went? I mean, I was dying of laughter. Like literally, like I had to stop you guys talking. I was like, “I’m gonna press record now because this is already gold.” And yeah, like when you guys did talk about some of the RuneScape stuff, I didn’t know, but you guys did a really good job at just kind of being like, “Yeah, there’s that,” and then going into your own stuff and just the great roast. What a great roast. Which one? All of it. All of it. Yeah, no, here’s the thing. ‘Cause genuinely, I’m actually in a video on Link’s channel, I believe. Yeah, cause Link edited it. I’m in a video on Link’s channel playing RuneScape with them and they roasted me the entire time. Just the whole time. It was like an hour long video of them just roasting me. And I was in a call by myself. Like, they were in a call together ’cause it was them against me. They were in a call roasting me the whole time and I couldn’t even hear them. So they’re just doing that on their own. I wasn’t even there to defend myself and they just ripped me a new one the whole time. So, I had to get ’em back. So that’s why I was very antagonistic. Yeah- Plus, it’s funny. Yeah. It was funny. I think it worked and they’re both great sports about it. I honestly was literally like, “I’m freaking dying.” They’re a couple of great dudes. In other news, everyone, if you like Link from “Good Mythical Morning”, not the Link I just talked to, but if you like Link from “Good Mythical Morning” and you like his dad, I have some great news, because Link’s dad is no longer lost in the woods. He’s been found, he’s been saved, and they actually now have a podcast together called “Dispatches from Myrtle Beach.” And it’s gonna be fun. It’s entertaining. I don’t know, they’re gonna talk about stuff. Whatever like, a YouTube dad and his actual dad talk about, that’s gonna be pretty much what they’re talking about. So whatever that entails, it’s gonna be great. It’s gonna be entertaining. Link and his dad, “Dispatches from Myrtle Beach.” Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And thank you so much for listening today to my show, “Trevor Talks Too Much”. You can catch us every Tuesday. We got new episodes coming out on the audio platforms. And then every Monday, the following Monday, we got the YouTube video version coming out. So make sure to check that out, leave a review, leave a comment, let me know how we can improve the show. Let me know just the right amount of talking to do, and be sure to check out all the other Mythical stuff we got going on. I already told you about Link’s dad’s podcast, but we also got, you know, “GMM”, “Mythical Kitchen,” a lot of other podcasts, a lot of social stuff going on. We got “Mythical Pods” on TikTok, fun stuff going on everywhere, so make sure to check all that out. And yeah, if you haven’t ever played RuneScape before don’t play it, it’s not worth it. You shouldn’t try it. And if you do, I’m sorry. If you do, because of this show, I believe you’re entitled to financial compensation from Jamie. So make sure to send those, those requests in. Venmo request Jamie if your soul is sucked by RuneScape because of this podcast. Thanks everyone. Have a great week. What?